It's a Numbers Game: The Numbers Behind Minnesota’s Billion-Dollar Welfare
By The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
December 8, 2025
In this episode of A Numbers Game, Ryan and Manhattan Institute journalist Ryan Thorpe uncover a massive Minnesota welfare fraud scheme involving Somali immigrants, with more than $1 billion in alleged fraudulent claims and reports that some funds may have reached Al-Shabaab. The conversation breaks down government oversight failures, media bias, and the economic and social consequences of unchecked immigration policies. Thorpe also explores border security, the rise of European populism, and Florida’s leadership on data center regulation and electricity pricing, calling for honest, data-driven reforms to protect taxpayers and restore trust in public assistance programs. It's a Numbers Game with Ryan Girdusky is part of the Clay & Buck Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday & Thursday
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