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Normally Podcast: Immigration Wars, Free Speech Fights & 2028 Chess Moves

By The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

December 9, 2025

In this episode of Normally, Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz break down the growing backlash over U.S. immigration policy, they explore how Europe is reacting to America’s political shifts, the intensifying battle over free speech, and increasing scrutiny of Trump’s border strategy. They also examine The New York Times’ influence on the immigration narrative, emerging leftist political voices, and what early maneuvering for the 2028 presidential election could mean for both parties. Normally is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday. 

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