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June 13, 2023 39 mins

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys tell Nikola Jokic why he needs to go to the Nuggets parade before going home. LaVar takes up arms against the game of Pickleball and gets reminded of his time being recruited by Green Bay.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with Lamar Arrington, rading Win and Jonas Knox
on Box Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel here on a Tuesday morning,
like a Denver nugget champ. That's right, Yeah, nugget of
a champ. Think christ just put it away, get it done.
I will say this, that was one of the most
entertaining bad basketball games I've ever seen in my life.
That's what you're going with. What an awful game. That

(00:35):
is funny. There was a lot of bad shooting, sloppy yeah,
sloppy handling the ball. Didn't feel like if Denver could
just hit like two or three threes, they were just
gonna run away with it. And Miami kept hanging around
and kept hanging around. But Denver, I don't did. I
don't know that anybody really played all that well. Like

(00:55):
they couldn't hit a shot. They were one of fifteen
the first half from three yo kids wasn't even shooting no,
Like it was weird. Like Mike Malone at one point
late in the game just told him, dude, slowed down,
like they were just sloppy. They I don't know if
nerves were a factor, but everybody in the in the audience,
in the crowd was just looking around, going, God, if

(01:15):
we could just put together two to three minutes of
good basketball, we're gonna run away with this thing. But nonetheless,
congratulations of the Denver Nuggets. They get it done. First
title in the history of the franchise for those Denver Nuggets.
How about that? Yeah, So you get first team outside
of California, Texas, and there's one other state I believe

(01:39):
that won the title out of the West. It's like
three states that win the title every year in the
history of the NBA. That's messed up. Make you wonder, well,
there's a lot of teams that aren't in those states.
I forget the other one. It's Texas Nexas. You just

(02:02):
you made a critical air, a critical mistake. What was
the critical So our Lord and Savior. Scott Shapirokay, Diehard
Minnesota Timberwolves fan, Okay, one of the don't have none,
one of the great Yes that is. And he reminds
everybody on Twitter as often as he cans about how
long how long it's been since the Minnesota Timberwolves have

(02:24):
won And no they haven't. They've not come close. How
long it's been since they've a chance, well between them
and the Vikings, And I mean the Twins won a
couple of times. Eighty seven and nine won a Super Bowl,
Viking super Bowl. Yeah, the ship or something, right, Yeah,

(02:45):
I don't believe so oh man, Yeah, Minnesota's had it rough,
and so our our friends on the Yallo Horn of
the Twin Cities. K fan, you are constantly reminded. And
I don't I don't think it was you suck. Yeah,
I mean, listen any national titles. Wrestling maybe, yeah, wrestling probably,
I would assume. Yeah, but wrestling, yeah, but when it

(03:08):
comes to everything else, just not not in basketball, No, no,
not in football, the Minnesota Wild No. Yeah, I believe
the Minnesota north Stars. I'm from Desburg, so I've been spoiled. Man. Yeah,
I got one in hockey, I got I got a well,
I got a whole bunch in hockey, got a whole

(03:29):
bunch in football. We're like f basketball because we just
went a whole bunch and football and hockey. I believe
we have one. What didn't we win one with Willie Stargell.
I think we won one with Really, I think we
have a World Series with Do we have a World
series with the Pirates, Eddie, Yeah, I'm not quite sure.

(03:50):
Did Willy Stargell win a World Series Eddie? Yeah in
nineteen seventy nine. We are family. Yeah, there you go. See,
So just pour it on in Minnesota. Coop just jumped
in Minnesota does have a championship That's what I thought. Yeah,
who Coop, let's hear Purple Peoples. No, no, no, that
wasn't the nineteen sixty nine NFL championship game, the thirty

(04:13):
seventh and final championship game prior to the AFL NFL merger.
Joe Capp was the that's not modern day, it's not.
It's not the NFL. Yeah, Coops. Coops being a wise
ass is what he is. No, but it's it's part
of the history books.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Though.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I thought he was going to say the Minneapolis Lakers.
A lot of people don't know to La Lakers where. Yeah,
that should count. I mean I used to always wonder
why they called it La Lakers the Lakers. It's a
very good question. I mean, you have oceans here, why
do they call them the Utah Jazz? I mean, is
there one jazz bar in the entire state of Utah. Right,
that makes sense, right, they came from New Orleans while

(04:46):
were you leaving, Yeah, and keeping the name the same. Yeah,
it's just weird. It is weird Utah Jazz. It is weird.
It's weird. You know, it's not weird. What the Denver Nuggets,
you know, it's not weird. What championship parade? Well except
if you're except if you're Nikola Jokic, because he was
asked about the championship parade for the Denver Nuggets coming

(05:10):
up this week and apparently he's not all that interested
in partaking in this championship. Well, it's just going to
be smoke, you said after the Lakers whin you said
you were surprised that you didn't feel more. So I'm
curious what you are feeling right now and if you're
looking forward to a parade coming up in Denver.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Par No, I need to go home.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Uh. We're succeeding our jobs and we we wanted we
won the whole thing. It's a it's a it's an
amazing feeling. But like I said before, it's not everything
in the world. You know, I think I think still
if Okay, I wanted, Okay, I we wanted, but I
think it's not the most important thing in the world. Still,

(06:04):
there's a bunch of things that that I like, that
I like to do. I mean probably that's no, that's
a normal thing.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
You know.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Nobody likes his his job, or maybe they do, they're lying.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
He is not not a big fan of those parades, man,
So who knows he'll be there, but he'd be chilling. Yeah,
you got to get back to the fans, man. Fans
deserve to be able to to enjoy a win for
for their city. You know, that's that's that's definitely definitely important.

(06:44):
You know, I would I would just urge him to
be careful on that, that's all because you don't want
you don't want to come across that. And he's right,
there is more to life that's more important. But also
at the same time, that is your job and at
the end of the day, that's the pinnacle of your job.
And you never want to be one of those guys
that's like you just seem like you just don't care

(07:08):
because just as soon as you know, just like people
can love you and care about you because of the
feeling that they're left with, like that's the one thing
that I always appreciated about being able to play sports
at a high level and matter to the fans is
that you also had special opportunities to make the fans feel,

(07:30):
you know, have an experience, feel special about themselves. And
so I would just urge them to just have a
little bit take a little bit more time to think
about the fact that those people that will be lighting up,
smoking up inhale exhaling as as they do this parade,
that those are those are the people that support you.

(07:51):
That's that's really the reason why you're able to make
the money that you make. That's the reason why your
wins are relevant because if no one care, like, think
about this, how many players and how many teams can
you name that have won a championship that are in
professional sports? And when did they happen?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Right?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Like, It's like there are some things that matter more
and they matter enough where people know what's happening and
what's going on with it. There are a lot of
sports where that doesn't exist. And you could easily have
been born differently and been in a situation where you're
doing amazing things, but people don't really care about what

(08:39):
it is that you're doing. In that sport. So I
would just say, when you're a figure like him, someone
should make sure he understands that the fans are truly
they're part of the trinogy, you know, the trinity excuse me, trinity.
You have the players in the game itself, you have

(09:00):
the media, and you have the fans. That's like the
trinity of sports. So anyway, I mean, he looks like
he's enjoying his life. I mean, he looks like he's
got a beautiful family. His brothers support him. He was
holding his baby girl. I believe that was a daughter.
He put a hat on, yeah, but I believe it's
a daughter. So I mean, good for him for staying grounded.

(09:22):
One is cool that he stays grounded Jonas. But I'll
just say, don't don't forget about your fans because your fans.
And one thing I've learned about giving experiences to your fans,
they never forget. They never forget, man, And that's one
of the coolest things is just having somebody come up
to you. I mean, I've been removed from the game
and they're doing a bobblehead for me. At at one

(09:44):
of the minor league games in State College for the
Spikes Baseball team. Getting your own bibblehead. Yeah, it's a
it's a LeVar Elite bibblehead. Pick up another one autograph
that I'll say on eBay, I'm about to say I'll
get you on, but yes, but now I'm not going
to get you on. That's right. But just to know that,
you know, I can run into people all these years later.

(10:06):
It's the twenty fifth anniversary of me making that play.
Twenty five flipping years man, and people still find it relevant.
And people come up to me and people tell me
about when they met me when they were a kid
and they're full grown and they had their own family.
Now makes you feel really old, but it makes you
feel really good because that's so long ago, but people

(10:30):
still appreciate you and they remember those moments. And I
would just urge him to not miss out, which he
may not even be into that anyway, but you know,
just even for the fans sake, don't miss out on
that part of it. See, I feel like he already
did his job. He provided his fans with the memory
of a world championship that they never got. He also

(10:50):
assaulted an owner during this playoff rand, which I feel
like everybody's wanted to do at some point or another
in their job life, and he accomplished that well to
put together a hell of a run. He's got his trophy.
He gave them that championship experience. He's gonna give them
the ability to raise a banner next year when they
open up the season. All of that parades are lamb.

(11:13):
I've been to one. They're just nothing about It was
interesting at all, but they're kind of not for for
the player, you know what I mean. So like for
you to say it's lame, I don't know what that means.
It's like, what do you see him riding around on
a float? Like what's the point? Like not even on
a float, You're you're on like some type of a
truck or a bus or a fire. I've been a

(11:36):
part of one parade and it was flipping awesome because
they're throwing you booze and all that stuff. Well I
was in high school. We want to stay titled okay, rolling,
but they gave maybe maybe icy like ice maybe, but

(11:58):
it just again, the community was with us the entire city.
This is why I'm saying it. The community was with
us the entire season, right like you don't know what.
And then this is high school, so it's not really
comparable to pros. But I mean people donating food and

(12:19):
making sure we had the materials that we needed, and
people contributing in so many different ways, and then you
win it all they feel like they're just as much
a part of winning that championship as as the players
and the coaches are, and they are they are. It's

(12:40):
only the ones that go over the line that really
show why it's fanatic that kind of sometimes it questions
the whole idea of what yourrelevance is. But for the
most part, the people that play a major role in
the success of these teams. There's like, look at it
this way. All the people that come there and walk

(13:01):
people to their seats and direct them to where they're
supposed to see, all of the people that do security
on the court, and all of the people who are
serving drinks. Is it's not just the job. They're part
of the team too. They're part of the operation. And
that's one thing I learned a valuable lesson growing up
from the Steelers and the Rooney family. They always made
everything and everyone feel as relevant as and so did

(13:25):
the Giants. Man they made everyone feel as relevant as
everyone else. It doesn't matter if you're the one putting
on the helmet to play the football game or putting
on the helmet to go up and fix the lights
in the facility and clean up the facility. Everybody's part
is just as vitally important to winning. And that's just

(13:50):
as much to say about the fans as well. I mean,
COVID should have proven that, right, didn't COVID prove that
the fans matter? Well, not to the NFL. Just keep
there hitting me empty games. I mean, they still put
together a season. They still got those games, and you
put together a season, but it was different. I get.

(14:12):
I also think in high school there's a relationship between
the community and that team that feels different, like that
Last Chance You show. That's I mean that's junior college football.
But the relationship in those small towns to the to
the team. Some guys are in and out. You're hearing gone,
boom gone. I feel like this one there's a there's

(14:34):
a different vibe to it, and the parade there's a
different vibe to it. Can I tell you my favorite
this is this might be my favorite World Championship story
of all time? So when the Cubs finally won the
World Series in first time and since like sixteen thirty
eight or whatever, however long it had been since they
had won a World Series, one hundred eight years, the

(14:54):
Cubs fans, I mean were emotional. I grew up a
Cub fan, and I knew what that meant to that
fan base and all that. And the parade was bonkers.
Everybody was, you know, I mean for miles upon miles.
Never thought they'd see it. You had people sobbing. And
so they went to Wrigley Field afterwards and they took
chalk and they wrote tributes to all of their family

(15:17):
members who couldn't witness them, them winning a World Series.
And so they write all of this, you know, these
these I love you, I wish you were here. You're
here in spirit, I mean all over the brick outside
Wrigley Field, I mean thousands upon thousands of messages. And
about a week later, the city came by and hosted
all over, Hey, dear Grandpa, love you, miss you, wish

(15:41):
you were here. But the memory of it is still there.
The memory of it is still there. Yeah, And what
have they done since? Nothing, not a damn thing. And
people still go to the stadium. That's all that matters.
If they can go in there and have a good time,
that's all that matters. But but Jokicic's going to be

(16:01):
at this parade, He's going to have a good time,
He's going to celebrate it, and then he'll probably disappear
and he'll make the rounds this offseason. I want to know.
He strikes me as somebody who may let himself go
a little bit in the offseason. He does strike me
as somebody who might do that. I would love to
get a where's shads like him become major celebrities just

(16:25):
because of how nonchalant they are. Success. You're doing the
circuit right, You're doing the car wash. I mean, he's
going to be pulled in directions he probably doesn't want
to partake in. But I mean he's going to become
a star, a celebrity. Yeah, yeah, he's He's awesome man.
And the Denver Nuggets get it done. So congratulations to

(16:45):
Denver their fan base. Mike Malone, Jamal Murray, who's gone
through a rough patch with his injury and not being
able to play in the playoffs the past couple of years.
DeAndre Jordan won an NBA championship. Jeff Green Guy had
open hearts in twenty twelve. There was some thought that
he would never play again, and here he is an
NBA champion. So a lot of great stories that came

(17:06):
out of last night and the Denver Nuggets.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
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Speaker 2 (17:22):
Can I vent for two seconds? Please? Totally off subject?
What a vent? I need to vent? Yeah, y'all need
to cut it out with this pickleball mess. I'm so
over it. I'm so overhearing about pickleball. I'm so over
this pickleball craze. I don't understand it. Like it sounds

(17:46):
horribly boring, It looks painfully boring. It looks like four
lazy people being lazy playing ping pong on a mini
tennis court. Yeah, over the pickleball craze. Please stop. If
you want to be outside, stick to the traditional stuff.

(18:10):
If you don't want it to be fast where you
have to run around all crazy. That's why they created badminton,
you hit it, it goes up unless you're like in
like the pros, you're not getting it like spiked down
on you where you got to like get deep and
try to dig it out of the ground and run
around for it. Like it's just simple. So you prefer

(18:32):
badminton over pickleball, right, Yes, it's like not even close.
It's one hundred percent better, like not even and it
isn't even close. And anybody that wants to argue for pickleball,
you're an idiot. Much better. I just needed to get
this off my chest because I just feel as though somebody,
like I feel like in our culture, we do things

(18:54):
like watch, we're going to do this, and we're going
to turn it into a craze. Watch how easily swayed
people are to create a game called pickleball, and I
bet you we'll have everybody doing it. Watch, let's do it.
Let's get a few big names to do it. Those
big names do it, and then everybody else is going
to do it. Stop a flipp and hate pickleball. I

(19:16):
despise pickleball. I hate the name, I hate the way
it appears, I hate the way it looks, I hate
the way people look playing it absolutely despise pickleball. Yeah,
it's not even especially with the summer coming up. I mean,
it's not even even close to being near the top

(19:36):
of the list as far as summer activities because cornhole
is one corn corn. I always say bad mittens too. Listen,
go try tennis. If you're going to go on a
court with a with a racket. There's this thing called
tennis with a ball that bounces, and you have like

(19:57):
the whole mesh racket, not the little heart racket. Yeah,
like try tennis, stick with tennis, or go badminton. But
this pickleball s it's like it's like dragging your fingers
down a chalkboard. It's it's it's air. It's irritating. I'm

(20:18):
with you, and I'm tired of hearing about it, and
I'm tired. Oh what are you doing today? Go and
go get some pickleball in what like go cliff diving.
Before you go pickleball and go, go like go drink
some toilet water or something like that. You want to
try something new, do something that's like really like worth
doing something new like pickleball. How has this become a craze?

(20:43):
Like people are buying pickleball teams and stuff like that.
Pickleball big business. It's so dumb. Why don't you and
I bring back badminton because I feel like badminton has
been completely disrespected in this whole thing. Like badminton's fun
for everybody playing play table tennis. Yeah, Lee, that's the

(21:03):
only time it makes sense to have like an opaque
object where you're striking a ball and it goes over
the net. Do do do table tennis? Pickleball? Yeah? Well,
it's like Forrest Gump, Like did you see Forrest go
take up pickleball? When in the movie this is a
guy who was completely made fun of his entireble tennis. Yeah,

(21:26):
like to take his mind off go to the Olympics
table tennis, to take his mind off the fact that
the woman he loved was was, you know, was the
human doorknob. Everybody's getting a turn, he said to him.
He took up ping pong. He didn't take up pickleball.
It was ping pong. She might have taken up pickleball,
and it might have been a different game back then.
The point is I'm with you differently, I'm with you. Yeah,

(21:50):
I don't I don't get the pickleball thing. I don't
get it. Bad Mittens where it's at, and Cornhall and
that's that. I feel like pickleball takes me back to
a time where corporal punishment was a part of schools
and you either had the paddle with the holes in
it or you had the paddle that looked like a
pickleball paddle, and that thing was not going off of

(22:11):
a pickleball. It was going off of a stutent ass
Yep done. I hate pickleball and I just need to
get that off my chest. I apologize, we accomplished something here.
I feel better now. Yeah, listen, I don't get it.
I've said Badminton and Cornhall are the way to go.
If you're playing pickleball, you're trying way too hard to

(22:33):
be an athlete. Just acknowledge what you are. A non
athlete playing on a tiny little court that was built
for jockeys at the Belmont Stake and you're out there
trying to trying to, you know, hit like a softball,
and for what type, what type of enjoyment, what type
of pleasure do you get out of pickleball? You scored
a point, you won the pickleball game, what type of

(22:56):
pleasure do you get. I just don't understand. I don't
understand Lee sitting back there. You're a pickleballer, aren't you guaranteed? No?

Speaker 5 (23:06):
But I am a There is a pickleball court being
installed in the park near me.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
I was it's being installed, Yeah, okay, pit built. Like
how big is a pickle ball court? Is it? Like? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Like?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
What is it? Like a beach towel size? You just
like four people stand on a beach towel and hit
a ball around over a fake net. Doesn't seem too big.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
I'd say maybe half the size of the regular tennis court,
like of the lines of the tennis court.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
I just think badmitting so much more fun. Man, is
there a reason that they give a reason why they're
installing that pickleball deal in the court.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
It's taking over where the horseshoes were. Nobody was playing horseshoes.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Wait, they're getting rid of horseshoes for pickleball. Hey man,
pickleball's blowing up. It's I mean all the way. It's
like it's a craze.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
There's like there was like a whole aisle of equipment
at Walmart. I saw the other day of pickleball equipment.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Oh I saw it at the supermarket. Yes, in the
discount aisle in the supermarket, they had a bunch of
pickleball stuff that wasn't getting sold like that out to
tell you it's on the decline, telling you that right
now they're going to disrespect horseshoes for pickleball. That's disgusting.
You run the hoa over there. You're the whole constrictor league.
Can't you make a couple of calls and get the

(24:20):
horseshoe pit back up? You know what, that's a good idea. Yeah,
come on, Lee, Why don't use your power a little
bit here? Like what are you sitting in those meetings
for the flask You need to make some calls and
get horseshoes back in and badminton rather, I'm turning into
a long jump pit. Yeah right, Like just turn the

(24:41):
horseshoes the horseshoes saying and put like a little runway there,
y'all just go running jump into the same You want
to know why we lose the metal count of the
Olympics Every year we're playing pickleball. Everybody else is doing
long jump. That's why unbelievable pickleball I am so overhearing
about pickleball. It's just the name is revolting in itself.

(25:04):
Pickleball stupid, It's so irritating, stupid pickleball. If you play pickleball,
you need to take a good, long, hard look in
the mirror and ask yourself, why do I play pickleball?
If you have a friend that plays pickleball, you need

(25:28):
to ask your friend, are you okay? Do you need
a hug? Do you want to talk? Is there anything
that I can do? Because why, out of all things
that have been made available to you in life, you
chose pickleball. Plus, it's a goofy name, like you just
lose respect for it right off the jump. What are

(25:49):
you doing pickleball? It's like it's like you hear pickleball,
it just makes you like want slap somebody or something
like slap yourself like pickleball. Yeah, like like like pick
a difference? What does that even mean? Like cucumber ball
would sound better? What does that even mean?

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Lee?

Speaker 2 (26:09):
What's the orgin pickleball even mean? Was pomegranate taken? So
they went pickle lee? What's the origin of the of
the name?

Speaker 5 (26:17):
I had looked this up once I'll find it out again.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
So stupid. Yeah, that's pretty goofy Oh, but Kevin Durant
and Dwayne Wade and other celebrities they love pickleball, So
what I could care less about them loving pickleball, Pickle
was the name of their dog.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Of the two guys who created the game, there you go, Well,
there you go.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
So we're this is sweeping the nation a game named
after somebody's dog named Pickle. Come here, Pickle.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Contradictory contradicting stories between the two guys who created it,
mister Pritchard, the Pritchard family and the Collums family. And
one says it was about a boat, and one says
it was about a dog.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
That's what dog that's about? Either way, dog, sister, brother,
I don't care if your cousin's nickname was Pickle. It's dumb.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
This so basically everybody, everybody's taking the bait over two guys.
They can't decide whether or not they named a game
the most popular game of the country now after a
dog or a boat. That's what this, that's what we've
turned into. Meanwhile, badminton, you grab a couple of light rackets,
you grab a shuttlecock and you go hit it over

(27:34):
a net in a park and you're off and running. Rather,
I'd rather play a game called get a shovel and
dig a hole. That's more entertaining to me. Shovel a hole. Hey,
let's do that, corpse ball. Do that? Yeah, so we
can put pickleball inside of it. Put dirt on our
courts are six feet dahn. We we'll do that. We'll

(27:55):
come on with go with that. I rather do manual labor.
Build a house ball? What does that entail building a house? Right? Yeh? Pickleball?
Come on, man, show me a highlight film of pickleball,
like this is this is the way you play pickleball?

(28:18):
Like what look at the athleticism on display. I want
to hear somebody do the color call of a pickleball match. Yeah.
I just had to get that off my chet. I'm
glad you did. I'll tell you what pickleball. Glad you did. Fuck.
I don't get it. I've never understood. It doesn't make

(28:40):
any sense to me either, you know. But by the way,
if you do listen to the show and you play pickleball,
we recommend listening to the show while you play pickleball.
That'll improve your experience, So we appreciate anything will improve
your experience.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
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So, LeVar Arrington, we have been monitoring, we have been
tracking the whereabouts of DeAndre Hopkins Old d Hop making
the rounds, talked about the New England Patriots being stopped
number two apparently in stop number one, though the Tennessee
Titans are showing him a little bit of love, I thought.
Mike Rabel said that they weren't going to be recruiting,
wasn't going to be part of the He's probably had

(30:02):
the sense rethink that, okay, because uh, it's okay with
rethinking things, you say. So they sent a car to
pick him up, and when they when the vehicle picked
him up, apparently there was a custom screen saying welcome
to Nashville, DeAndre Hopkins.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
He also said that, you know, I mean, was there
a briefcase duffel bag? I mean, damn a screen? There
was a custom screen. I believe there was a what
you give these days a country music festival or or
a concert that was going on. Was the what the
Country Music Awards was going on? Right Cmas? Yeah, yeah,

(30:41):
I believe. So who knows, I'm not up to speaking
on were well you know I am, yeah, big Conway
Twitty guy who Conway Twitty? Yeah, I don't know who
that is. I know who my man is that that's
saying shallow. I know that. Yeah, that's not considered country,
is it. Hell yeah, Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga, that's

(31:02):
the country song. Oh yeah, I just thought it was
a bad song. Can we play that coming back in
from the break? Please? Shallows, thank you please. I really
loved that song, man, but but my favorite. But nonetheless,
I mean, this may be part of the chorus, you know,
for a celebrity like you, you hop in a car and
they've got a welcome to the city stop.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
But but for the for the common man, the hard hat,
lunch pale guy like myself. You said they were showing
a lot of love. I mean, is that a lot
of you seen what these colleges do for these players?
Now they do and it ain't no money involved. So
they say what they do back in the day that

(31:48):
I'll never tell. Yeah, I just know this. If I
would have went to the school that offered me the
most versus the school that I wanted the most, it
would have been vastly different. It was different. It was

(32:08):
way different, And I just never felt the urge because
I guess I was so well taken care of by
my parents. I never felt the urge to bag chase.
I was not a bag chaser. And and so pause
by the way, yeah, I mean like what was in
the bag? Like not anyway? Yeah, I mean yeah, I

(32:34):
mean there's that too too. Believe you me that that too.
But yeah, I mean as a pro, you know, I
had an opportunity to be a free agent and and
do the whole the dance, you know, the Ponies show

(32:55):
and dance. I went to Green Bay. I visited New York.
What Green Bay do for you? I got offer you
a platter of cheese curds. It was a nice It
was a nice visit. It was very business like and
it wasn't like New York. We went out to dinner,
nice place to eat. It was just New York. The

(33:17):
way they the way they court it or or entertained
was really it was really cool. I enjoyed it. Can
you take me through that? Come on? But look, so
where'd you go to dinner in New York? What are
the giants? I forget? I forget, honestly, did the nice restaurant?
Did the packers take you to dinner? No? I mean
the packers didn't take you to dinner. No they didn't.

(33:39):
It's got a where'd they go bowling alley, uh play
couples stayed out of casino, and they were recruiting a picket, dude,
big picket. And they gave me a room key that
was to his room. He was sitting. Now, I had,
you know, I had my people with me, you know
what I mean, truth is with me. And we opened

(34:00):
up the door and picket is is it? Kenny Picket? No?
I don't believe he was around back then. Yeah, I
well know, Oh God, who was it? Hey, Lee, you're
you're a Packers, uh fanboy? Who's on on? It was
Ryan Pickett? Ryan Pickett? Okay, let me look this up.
And so Ryan, you got Ryan Pickett's room and I

(34:23):
got his room key. Yeah, Kenny Picket isn't definitely not.
That's the quarterback, yeah, Ryan, the big d lineman, right Lee. Yeah.
So he's sitting there in his boxer shorts. We opened
the door, He's like, oh, oh man. And I mean
he had he had about three four five like plates

(34:45):
from room service on its table. He was comfortable as
hell getting his eat on six. I was like, god,
six door my heads. I was like god, dang and
not dang. I ain't say dang and I was like,
my bad, my gen closed the door. I went. I
went to the front door, and they had somebody escorting

(35:05):
escorting us, and they were like, oh my gosh, I'm
so sorry, Da da da, this that and the other.
We got your rooms mixed up. I had a better room,
by the way, I did have it much. I had
a much better room I must have been. And it's
so crazy because that was the year Charles Woodson signed

(35:26):
to the Green Bay Packers, I believe as well, and
me and wood were talking about thinking about going there together,
but I ended up, you know, like Plexico and Antonio Pearce,
we were really tight and really closed. So it was
just it was just it was a great, great experience
when I went on my trip to New York. But

(35:49):
just to get back to the idea of what I mean,
having a customized screen that says welcome to Nashville. That
might have not even been to Tennessee Titans that did that.
That might have been the car service that did that.
I mean, just being honest. I mean, also, I'll tell
you this, the green had What would the Green Bay
Packers had to have done to get you to go

(36:11):
to Green Bay? Because I had Brett Farv called me
while I was in New York, which that's what he did.
That's what he did, and I almost I almost did it.
I almost did it. And I was used to cold weather,
so it wasn't like I was going to have a
problem with going into cold weather and being there. Plus,

(36:31):
I was like, you know, the contracts, they actually offered
me more than what the New York Giants did, so
the contract would have hit harder being in a market
like green Bay versus getting the money I was going
to get to go to New York because of all
the taxes I was going to pay. But you know what,
I just I just really enjoyed my time in New

(36:53):
York and Green Bay dodged a bullet. I mean I
blew my achilles tending the first first uh first season there,
and I missed the the you know, basically the remainder
of the season that I was there, and then I
retired after that. So then they went to Super Bowl
the next year, The Giants won the Super Bowl the

(37:15):
next year, but and also the Packers and Giants were
in the NFC Title Game. Okay, so then what makes
you feel even better about your You get to choose
versus you get drafted. My two choices came down to
I turned down a lot of visits and only took
the Green Bay and Giant visit. And the Green Bay Packers,

(37:35):
I believe, won the Super Bowl the very next season.
They won in two thousand and ten, twenty eleven. A
couple of years later. Ryan Pigott was it a couple
he was on that team. He was on that team.
I thought it was maybe a year or so after no,
it went when the Giant the Giants, Giants one right,
and then God who did it? And I felt like
the Packers won. It was a couple of years later.

(37:58):
It was a couple of years either way. It would
have been under my contract term to win a super
Bowl with the Packers and under my full contract term
with with with the Giants, I would have won two
Super Bowls. I would have got two, so I would
have had I would have had three three Pro Bowls
to two second team All Pros and two Super Bowls.

(38:23):
I might have had a bit. Yeah, it was Giants.
The Steelers beat the Cardinals in that classic Super Bowl,
and then it was the Saints beating the Indianapolis Colts,
and then the Packers won, So it was a couple
of years in between, but none even realized that selective
memory though you know you called your shot. That was
the Packers and Giants were in the very next conference championship, Gague.
I would have had to wait a whole lot longer

(38:44):
to get that one with the Packers. I didn't even
realize it was that much longer. Yeah, but DeAndre Hopkins
getting uh getting a car service to put his name, Yeah,
I don't. I think the car I think the car
service did that. But I think the country music concert
definitely was the you know was the Titans.

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