June 21, 2023 • 46 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Deion Sanders explains why he would never coach in the NFL and LaVar explains the difference in coaching pros vs amateurs. LaVar relives the glory days of rollerblading around College Station. The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by for his weekly visit to talk about the devaluing of running backs and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Got a question for you, ty Iraq. So Cafe to ten, Yes,
you go there for lunch.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
But when I get it in, I go to champs.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So cafe is out to my man DJ Rictor or
Richter Scale. Yay, shouts up to my dough.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
So two ten is the matine spot.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Two ten is just like that's like, that's nostalgia. That's nostalgia.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Okay, now what is the So when you're at Cafe
two ten and State College, Yeah, and you're gonna do
LeVar Islands?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah? Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Are you going to make the mistake that you made
when we were in Arizona for the Super Bowl together
where it was time to go and you were coerced
into having another long island, which completely say you.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Imagine these are real long islands though, like you know
how you go places and you're wondering and thinking is
it real?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Not at to ten all right, like not at two ten,
Like it is a perfected drink and you know you
know what you're getting when you get it there. So
I always get my hotel. I stay. Shout out to
my people at Hyatt as well. I stay at the Hyatt.
(01:35):
They was trying to get me on there so bad
that they didn't want me to come to the football building.
They want me to stay there and do the show.
You know, I'm walking distance from Champs, I'm walking distance
from to ten. What else? What else?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I mean, there's.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Something else I'm missing. There's there's something else that I'm missing?
What am I missing?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
You know?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
The breakfast potatoes here in State College are the bomb?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
All right?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
What makes them better than anywhere else?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
They're the bomb? I don't know, man, They're just the
way they're supposed to taste, a little crispy. Er. They
are a little crispy, but they had this like little
I don't know, it's just the taste of them are
the way a breakfast potato should taste.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And by the way, it wasn't two ten the place
that got you into Long Islands to begin with.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
That's correct.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Ye, So so when you have that first sip, it
really does take you back.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Oh yes, that's the point. That's why do you realize?
That's why I started drinking Long Islands again? That was
the whole point, because I was really for a long time,
I was tequila and grapefruit. And then I started like
when I started like kind of you know, thinking about
when I was somebody and it mattered in life and
(02:56):
people respected me and revered me and wors up the
ground that I walked on. I was in state college
and when I began having adult beverages, well, I was
introduced to Long Islands. And I'll never forget Keijhnakart, which
this is super cool. I'm gonna probably see Key John.
(03:18):
I know Oj McDuffie will be here. Some people may
not remember who Oj McDuffie is, but Oj McDuffie is
one of the dopest football players to ever played at
Penn State, ended up going to Miami, had an unfortunately injury.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well yeah, but he was a very good player with.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
The Dolphins, super super dope. And so they're the ones
that introduced me, and they got me faded, Like I
mean fade them dudes. Go hard them. They're like twin brothers,
go hard in the paint, Like it's like having Shaq
and Yao ming in the paint at the same time
(03:55):
on the same team. Like they go hard and the
paint and so that that that was how I got
introduced to it. I'll never forget it. That was also
how I got introduced, I believe, to Grenadine and Coronas,
which I thought was weird, but after trying it, I
(04:15):
thought it was very very cool. I had it like
maybe a three year run with Coronas and Grenadine.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, I learned a lot of like interesting things here,
you know. And I just really been in love with
Penn State man like lately. So I've just been on
Long Islands for like I don't know, like for a
few years now. I just I've just been back on it.
That's my thing.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's what it's laic. See, we got to live vicariously
through you to be to be a Hall of Famer.
That's how that works.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I mean, they're about to go outside and practice. I almost,
for two seconds almost said I thought they were going
to be practicing after the show. Clearly I'm still on
West Coast time, because they're like, yeah, they're practicing at seven.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I was like, perfect.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Then you realized hour two. I realized it's only hour
two here though, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I mean, you know what else is probably practicing later today? Yes, definitely.
D's on Sanders is what it is. Deon Sanders Prime
and the Colorado Buffalo's are getting ready for an exciting
season featured back to back weeks to start off the
year on Big Noon Kickoff. But the conversation for Deon
Sanders on Sports Illustrated turned to the potential of coaching
(05:27):
a team he played for in the NFL, the Dallas Cowboys.
So he spoke with Brie and Mooranthus of Sports Illustrated
about that possibility. And let's take a listen to Dion
and make the comparisons between college and the NFL and
the potential of going back and reuniting with Jerry Jones
as a head coach.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm not an assistant coach. That's not me. I'm ahead.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I'm not because I know who I am, I know
what I am, and I don't settle for mediocre to whatsoever.
I don't have any of these ambition to coach in
the NFL. I have a problem with men getting the
check and not doing the jobs. I have a problem
with that, Like I would be too tough as a
coach in the NFL. I'm old school. You know you're
(06:13):
gonna do it. You're gonna do it this way. We're
gonna work out, but we're gonna be a team. The
only thing that's gonna be individual about you is the
way you play.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So I'm a little different. I'm kind of a little different,
but I love it. I love Jerry Jones.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
I tremendously love that whole family, and uh, you know,
their step away oftentimes.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
On doesn't like I didn't like being a coach in
the NFL because you know, he's a little bit too
old school. Doesn't feel like they could they could handle
some of that criticism that he would dish out there Beyonce.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Sensitive thugs need hugs. As my man Fred Smoot has said,
I mean, there's a lot of personalities that you have
to deal with, and from what I can gather, it's
way more intense now dealing with you know, pro athletes.
I mean, I don't know, I really I have dealt
(07:11):
with a lot of young people I've mentored. I told
you I officially retired. I'm retired from it, and I'm retired,
like in terms of bringing kids into my home and
stuff like that, like that's I'm done. But I've done
it for so long and I watched the evolution of
how these kids are. Man They're like they've they've they've
(07:36):
turned into zombies. They're like, they're like emotionally emotionally unstable zombies.
That's what they are these days. And they're driven by
AI artificial intelligence. That's a that's this generation of pros,
(08:01):
that's this generation of athletes. It's so weird. If you
could see guys, you can know you can know guys
that come from good homes that are AI zombies because
their parents were good parents, probably two family, two parent home,
(08:22):
and allowed allowed them to be raised by YouTube, social media,
mobile devices. They were raised and influenced by them. You
can tell the cats that come from single parent homes
and are literally with no like father figure or mother figure,
(08:47):
whichever one it may be, and they're influenced by the
same exact things, Like they're all influenced by the same
exact things, the same exact music and videos and stuff.
They're they're in influenced by the same exact things, but
have different different upbringings. And you can tell what type
of zombie they are. This new generation, they're zombies. And
(09:12):
so if you're going to coach a zombie that's getting
a paycheck and and oftentimes more than you. Some of
these some of these players are making more than you
as a coach. So so these zombies, these AI controlled
zombies are looking at you like what are you talking about?
(09:35):
What are you talking to me about? And why like
why are you talking to me? Like? Get out of
my face? It does, and that's what I've seen in
terms of the evolution. Like it's just it's like here
they be looking at you like they're listening, but they're not.
They're not, I'm telling you. And it's at the high
(09:59):
school level. Well, he's saying pros And I would say,
the only reason why you say that at pros is
because that's the level where they're actually really everyone's getting paid.
You're a professional. But it's at the high school level. Hell,
it's at the pee wee level. I'm playing this position.
No you're not, Yes, I am. Like it's like so
(10:21):
many agendas and so much disconnect from reality with how
these youngsters are these days. It's kind of it's I'll
say it's a tad bit disturbing.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
When he says when he makes the comment and he
compares the two obviously, you know, I don't want to
say two different sports, same sport, but different level. Coaching
in the NFL and coaching in college, it does feel
like two different worlds. And what I find interesting about
it is if a coach either doesn't make the jump
(10:55):
to the NFL but as a successful college coach, or
he makes the jump from college to the NFL, but
maybe he isn't as successful as he is in college,
they're almost diminished, like, yeah, but you didn't do it
at the NFL. Yeah, but you couldn't get done there.
It's almost like a knock on their resume. When Dion
Sanders is telling you, Look, i played at the highest
level in the NFL, I'm coaching Division I college football.
(11:17):
I've had success coaching college football. I'm telling you I'm
not interested in it because it's another world and just
the ability. Yeah, and so that's why it's.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You can you can threaten guys in college.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, it feels like and it almost feels like there's
you're sort of knocked if you can't do it in
the NFL when in the NFL maybe you just don't
have the ability to because maybe it's more difficult to
tell a guy who's making fifteen million dollars a year. No,
you're going to be here at this time. We're practicing
this hard. Eh No, I'm not like, I'm just I'm
just not doing it like it's a it's a whole
(11:53):
different job. It feels like and and I think his
approach is, man, I want to be able to actually
coach play is not manage personalities. And he feels like
he's got to do that at the NFL level more
so than college.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
It's kind of I think you definitely have more control
in college than you do and in the pros and
really in any other any other level, because if you're
talking high school, you could you could threaten somebody in
high school. They'll go tell their mother or their father
you're going to get fired, like you're out of there,
(12:26):
or they'll quit like I'm not going to make it anyway.
Or you can look at college and you'll be like
I'm almost there, Like I am one level away from
making it to the pros. And whether you're a backup
or you're a starter, you know that everything at this
(12:49):
point truly matters, like the way the coaches talk about you, everything,
your film, everything matters. When you get to that point
of where you're at actually able to look at the
pros as being a valuable possibility, and so you're willing
to handle the verbal abuse that comes your way because
(13:11):
you don't have anything except the game and what that
game can provide for you. You're not going to let
no professor talk to you that way. You're not going
to let anybody else outside of a coach talk to
you the way that a coach is going to talk
to you at times because of what it is that's
at stake for you, which is weird, right, because you
(13:32):
would think like, well, if a coach can talk to
you crazy, then a professor should be able to talk
to you crazy. I wish a professor would talk to
me crazy. I wish one, I wish one would like
who the audacity of you, educator of a higher level
(13:53):
raising your voice at me, mother e fing me? Please,
you're not going to talk to me that way, but
let a coach do it. And you be sitting there like.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Sir, yes, sir, I'll be I'll be outside tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I'll be outside. Yeah, I'll get it right this time
it Please don't mother f me like I don't even
say that, you just take it. So I just think
it's the level of control and Dion Dion would probably
people don't realize how detailed. If you didn't know him,
you wouldn't know how detailed Dion is. Dion is almost
(14:32):
I mean, you know, I ain't I'm not one to
clinically diagnose anybody, but Dion is almost like almost like
like a rain Man type bro. He's like really really
like o CD with what he does, like every single detail.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I mean, a lot of successful people are like like
every every ounce of it matters, like every set like
some a lot of people would dismiss, well, why does
it matter if I, you know, get up at this
time and make my bed first. And for some people
it's like that's how it gets him going, Like that's
that's the first step in a long process of a
successful day. And it's always like you know the old adage,
(15:14):
you know, run the day, don't let the day run you.
And he strikes me as one of those guys who's
going to be in control and he's going to have
full control of whatever he's got his hands on and
whatever he's operating, and he probably feels like I don't
have the ability to have full control. In the NFL
That's why we talked about it last week, Nick Saban.
Some people will look at Nick Saban's run in the
(15:34):
NFL and say, oh, yeah, he wasn't successful, so they
almost diminish his historical impact on the gear. No, hell no,
he wasn't bad. But he recognized, Okay, I'm better served
going back and coaching at Alabama then staying here with
the Dolphins and trying to figure out the quarterback position,
which was the issue. And guess what, he was right, Like,
(15:56):
he's become the greatest head coach in the history of
college football. What do you think People look at it
and say, yeah, but he couldn't do it at that
at that level in the NFL, So therefore, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I just show me your your accolades. To the people
that said, oh, he couldn't do it, show me your accolades,
accolades please, Yeah, what are your accomplishments? Oh, he couldn't
do it at at the pro level? Show me what
was your how'd you do at the pro level? What'd
you do?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
What'd you do? Agreed?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
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Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, come on.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Bar uh yeah, come home, yeah, come home.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Yeah, it's still var day. Yeah ak ooh Long Island
LeVar Ye, about to get it right after the hour three,
I'm gonna walk get me some breakfast.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I's just suddenly I'm gonna walk to get me some breakfast.
I'm gonna get me some breakfast potato. Then I'm gonna
take a hour, wait about two or three hours, and
then I'm going to the two ten to get me
little VARs in inside my blood stream. And I'm gonna
be really really mean.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
So here's well done. That's well done. Could you do
that again if you tried? Hell no, that's well done.
I gotta ask you. So you're going to get the
breakfast potatoes?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah? Man, I think I'm gonna walk campus. Man. All right,
So okay, I don't have a vehicle.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
So then what do you get with the breakfast potato?
Do you get a cocktail with the breakfast potatoes?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Or no? I drink water in the morning. You know,
I stayed, I stay truema. I'm gonna get a i'mna,
I'm gonna get a workout in. I'm gonna get a
workout in and and and I'm gonna work out in
our like I said, in our facility. I'm here in
the lash building in State College. So shouts out to
the Penn State football team before allow me to come
(18:09):
in and use the facility. I missed practice. I think
practice is over now. I heard the guys coming in.
That's pretty loud, and I loved hearing the noise. But yeah,
I'm in the football building, and so I'll probably get
a workout when I finish up with you guys here,
maybe even get like a little little whirlpool sauna, you know. Action.
(18:32):
Then I'm gonna just walk. I'm gonna walk and go
get get breakfast. I'll get I'll probably get steak and
eggs with with with my my home fried with with
my breakfast potatoes.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And that's the move for those of you out there,
don't make the mistake of eating before you go and
work out. Always work out on an empty stomach. It's
called fasted working out. You know that or that or
some cardio, because what ends up happening is that you
don't have a bunch of food to pull your energy from.
It just pulls from your fat cells. You actually burn
more fat, you get a better lift. You may feel like,
(19:03):
oh I'm a little lightheaded. I need something before I
go to the gym. Just get through it, drink a
bunch of walk.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Used to doing it? Yeah, I'm so used to doing Isn't.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
It better when you're there and not having to work
on an empty stomach? When you get a bunch of
food you're burping up while you're trying to do cardio?
It's disgusting better it, I mean? And then that's something
the eggs a teen you're gonna get right after you liftde.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
But I'm going to get that cardio walking from the
facility to the place I'm going to go eat. So
I'm gonna go out down on College. Yeah, I'm a walk.
I'm a walk today and that's gonna be a little
bit of a walk too. But I'm a walk. You
know what's crazy, man? My oldest daughter committed to LMU.
(19:47):
She's gonna go to Loyola marymout.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Right what our buldest daughter.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, Hank school, Hank gathering Bo Kimball's school. Right, that
cap is is like a ten minute walk, like all
the way through, and I literally and this was before
I really started kind of exercising, like really heavy and
get my cardio up and all that. Man, I walked
(20:13):
for like five minutes, and within the five minutes we
were stopping and standing. I didn't realize how often when
I was out of shape. I didn't realize how often
I found places to sit down. So I didn't have
a place to sit down. And we're standing and we're
(20:33):
looking at these classes and I'm looking. I'm like, man,
my psiatic nerve, psiatica nerve or whatever it is. It's
like it's like screaming at me, and I can't sit down.
And I'm looking around and I'm like, these are all
volleyball players. They're laughing, hooting and hollering on these five
minute walks. And finally I'm literally on my last leg
(20:55):
about to fall the hell out because I was just
so like spent spunt because I couldn't sit down. And
they were like, yeah, we're going to go look at
the apartment accommodations this and I was like, I'm going
to sit down. They were like, are you okay? I
was like, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Okay. Now, was this before or after you'd gotten into
the college Football.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Hall of Fame? Ooh, it was after.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Okay, because that's when you flash the ring and say
make all your jokes now you want. Back in the day,
I would have torn this entire place off.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
It's just crazy, like I didn't. You don't really realize
how much like if you go to a big school.
When people say I don't really want to go to
a big school, I never really understood it because I
never really took visits too many visits I committed. I
didn't take any like real official visits, so I don't
know what a whole lot of other campuses look like Jonas.
(21:50):
So the idea of walking campus or I used to
roller blade too, rollerblading around campus was like that's a norm,
Like you gotta walk Ford twenty thirty minutes sometimes to
get to to get to a class, literally, like twenty
thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Hold on a second, you were trying to get to
class on roller blades back, I wasn't trying.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I used to roller blade the class.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Like you see, you're just cruising up and down the
Penn State campus on a pair of bowers, trying to
get to a class.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Absolutely, Why why didn't you just get a frying Because
I was good at roller blade? Don't say like what
like I enjoyed it, like I really like and I
got work, like you know how good that is, like
on strengthening your legs and stuff. Like it's like I
got good work as So.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Did you have an extra like a pair of shoes
in your back?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yes? In my back?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Okay, I was gonna say, because like would you just
sit there like roller Girl on Boogie Nights, just sitting
in class with the skates on or.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
With my skates off and my socks on and stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, like yeah, yeah, I had.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Shoes and put my roller blades on my book bag
like strap them on because I didn't have the the
strings I had the I had like these monarch butterfly
type they were fly man, they were some fly roller blades.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I think I remember those, and they had butterflies.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
They were they were like they had straps, like they
didn't have strings, they had straps, and so I would
strap them onto my my book bag and go into
class and like people thought that that s was cool,
Like they're like, man, dude, is this big black mothersucker?
Can can like he's really moving around campus. That's LeVar
(23:39):
Arrington moving around campus on these roller blades.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
He could seem like it was such a rare occurrence
to see.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I mean, how many people tell me? Truth? Lee, you
can chime in on this. Perfect is on on on
the ones and tuesdaday right that perfect? Okay, y'all chime
in on this. How many black dudes have you seen
on roller blades in your entire lifetime? Truth? Can you
count on one hand?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Venice Beach, you see everything?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
How many?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
In fact? How many black dudes?
Speaker 7 (24:08):
There's a very famous, uh dude that everybody knows if
you've been to Venice, black dude with a guitar on
roller blades?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Okay, how many have you seen?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I don't know his name, but everyone knows who he is.
That everyone's seen.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Him, Lee, how many have you seen?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I've actually, I can actually think of a couple, A couple,
you ask a.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Couple of guy, No, no, no, no, that still makes
the point. A couple in a lifetime. How many white dudes?
How many white dudes have you seen? Roller blade?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Lots?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, lots? Well, I mean Eddie Garcia is our resident
lots a resident hockey member here.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Eddie, Eddie, how many how many black dudes have you
seen roller blade out in public?
Speaker 8 (24:52):
You know, you could actually ask Petros about this. There
is a there is a guy in San Pedro who
has a dog in his backpack roller blades around.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
He does. But that's the only one I know.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Okay, there we go. But I was the dude with
the dog in the backpack at Penn State. I was
roller blading, probably the only black dude on campus.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
To the watch out for those you know, cracks in
the sidewalk there.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Hey, man, I was so smooth. I was smooth on
them blades. Man, I'm telling you, I was smooth. I
get there. LaVar ma Yagur, LeVar ma Yagur.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I like it? Yeah that's his shirt, Lvar my yager.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Gotta get the mullet though, Yeah you do.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Kind of got the mullet coming in right now, you know,
got cut the sides. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I was not great. I was not great at rollerblading.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
It was not my thing.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
By the way, Harry Perry is the famous uh rollerblader
on Venice Beach. Harry Perry, Yeah still have he makes
He's like in music videos.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It's not a shot in hell. That's a real name.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
In fact, Harry, I think I just saw him in
I Love You Man. I was rewatching I Love You Man.
I think he's in that really. Yeah, So it's like
a full blown celebrity.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Okay, So there's two LaVar Arrington and Harry Perry and
the guy in San Pedro and the guy in San Pedro.
So there's ansel LeVar.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Probably that's three.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
We put three together on this this conversation.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Three black rollerbladers in my life living down in Savannah,
Georgia too, all right, so counting another two in Savannah Jo.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Nobody roller blade in Savannah, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So we've got five black rollerbladers in the history of mankind.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
So there's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I think we really accomplished something here that's rarefied air.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
One of five.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
That's even more prestigious than the college Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Levary Man, how many whiteople A lot a lot of them?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
In fact, if you went to a rollerblade rally, jachelled, hey,
white guy turn around like you and Harry Perry would
be like, what about us? That's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Ah, Man, Well, there it.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Is, by the way to pay off the tea's real
quick Kellen Moore with some kind words about working with
Justin herber. So the Rollerblade conversation felt like it was
a little bit more more entertaining at least.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
So there's that.
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Speaker 2 (28:29):
He is Petros Papadegas. He is the co host of
the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on
the Blowtorch Am five to seven e LA Sports. He's
also a Fox College football analyst and you can get
him on Twitter at the old p Petros. Good morning,
what's happening?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Good morning? How's everybody doing?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Good morning? Just hanging out.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
We got a really really important question we want to
ask for important to get things started.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
What is it? All right?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Super important?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
How many black rollerbladers have you known?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Well? They're ever seeing in Thompson character from my he Ducks.
Speaker 11 (29:01):
Okay, they have the whole black rollerblading team in South Central,
don't you guys know?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
How about that with the knuckle puck?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
But how about in person?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
What do you mean in person? I live in LA.
Speaker 11 (29:13):
That was when the that was when the Junior Olympics
came to LA and there was the Iceland team, the
Evil Iceland Team.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Eddie, Eddie Garcia is with us here. Eddie's of San
Pedro legend Petros Eddie. So, who is this individual in
San Pedro?
Speaker 8 (29:29):
I don't know his name, but there's a black gentleman
who has a little dog in a backpack, and he
rollerblades around San Pedro.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Where have you seen him on Gaffy Street?
Speaker 4 (29:38):
No?
Speaker 11 (29:38):
But then again, I don't live in San Pedro anymore so,
but a lot of the local flavor does not escape me.
And I'm not saying that guy doesn't exist. I'm just
saying that I've not seen him. I certainly don't doubt
his existence.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You didn't see any black rollerbladers outside your dad's restaurant? No, okay,
exactly just wondering.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
But that's exactly right. Where are you going to see
black rollerbladers?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Mighty Ducks too? All right?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
There you go a movie.
Speaker 11 (30:10):
D two when Emilio Estevez is Gordon Bombay, loses his
way and goes Hollywood, gets kind of turned out, lives
in Malibu while the team's in a hotel unsupervised.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Nobody remembers this movie.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, I remember, I remember the Mighty Ducks.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Don't you remember?
Speaker 11 (30:28):
There's like a big press conference at the turnstile end
of the coliseum and Estevez says something like Team USA
is going all the way, and then the evil Iceland
coach goes, Timus has gone down.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Not so they're going. You guys don't remember that.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
No, I don't remember.
Speaker 11 (30:49):
That's that's unfortunate because that is a big seminal moment
in sports in this country for the young people.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Mighty ducks too.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
So the reason we brought up the black rollerblading topic.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Because I was a black rollerblader.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Lvar used to get to and from class at Penn
State on rollerblades.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Did you last are you laughing at?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (31:12):
I mean, look, LeVar was one of the most intimidating
linebackers in the history of college football, certainly for my time.
And roller blades make you like three inches taller.
Speaker 12 (31:22):
Yeah, and still that would I just I remember being
in class at USC and we played around the same
time and seeing dudes like rollerblade into class, sit there
with their rollerblades on, and then.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
Roll out, literally roll out, mostly like Asian dudes.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
And I was always just like.
Speaker 11 (31:49):
Wow, just I was just like wow, Like what a commitment,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Like, I took my roller blades off when I got
to the building.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
All the way off. You didn't roll into class, No,
I did not roll in. Why did you do shoes
in the backpack?
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Shoes in the backpack? Yes, I did shoes in the backpack.
Speaker 11 (32:08):
And and when what was what kept you from wanting
the bicycle?
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You had to find a place to put the bicycle.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Lock the bike so it doesn't it lock.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Like it's just like I just felt like it's less
stress like it's just quick, like you roll up, pop
them off, put your shoes on, you connect them to
your backpack. Boom.
Speaker 11 (32:28):
You're No one ever said anything to you, of course, okay,
people did, all.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Right, yeah, people people commented.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
All right, okay, as long as you knew what you
were doing was weird. I mean I walked around with
a Hello Kitty backpack for you.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So you're comparing me roller blade into a Hello Kitty backpack.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Oh, I'd say it's much worse the roller blade, do
you think so?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
How big is USC's campus. Is it big?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
No?
Speaker 11 (32:54):
I mean it's a few compared to like a town
where like the whole town is a college campus.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah. No, No, that's like like Penn State State College
is like a whole town is the college.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
But it's flat.
Speaker 11 (33:08):
You know, USC doesn't have a lot of hills like
when I was at cal. You know, call is basically
a hill. It's from the bottom of the hill to
the top of the hill, and roller blades don't help you,
I mean unless you want to die going downhill, going down,
and you certainly can't roller blade uphill. And uh it's
not really that easy to bicycle uphill. So all the
(33:30):
football players literally had like some souped up scooter like
they were like scooting around wuhan, you know, in China.
It was chaos, you know, And I'll never forget. I
may have told this story before. When I was a
freshman at CAL, I was walking to class.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Near this area called say Their Gate.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Oh god, I read this story.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah, I'm sorry. I shouldn't tell you.
Speaker 11 (33:58):
I just saw there was a hippie on a like
a ten speed, like a real hippie with like long hair,
flying behind him like a cartoon, and he was flying
down the hill. And also like a cartoon, there was
a small Asian woman with like three hundred books in
her hands, stacks and stacks of paper. And I have
(34:20):
not seen a collision like this other than the football field.
I mean, just an explosion.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
At water a koyea.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 11 (34:30):
It was I just could not you know, at water
a koye if a koye's thigh pads flew out, and
you know at waters like all his arm paraphernalia went down.
You know, it was like a station. It was like
a Hallmark store exploded. It was unbelievable. And it made
the paper the next day. It made the Californian.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Oh, I want to do a character check here. Did
you laugh?
Speaker 11 (34:57):
Oh no, no, mortify No, I mean I just took
things in back then.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I just you know, I remember my first day at CAL.
Speaker 11 (35:06):
I saw a guy in a tidy whitey shimmy up
the American flag and lighted on fire.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Oh wow, And.
Speaker 11 (35:12):
I was like, I think I need a change of clothes.
You know, I was dressed all preppy.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
You're overdressed.
Speaker 11 (35:18):
Yeah, yeah, well my girlfriend laid out this outfit for
me on the first day school and all that.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
So uh yeah, it was the whole, the whole, my
whole moment.
Speaker 11 (35:27):
No, that was before that, but my whole moment at
CAL was a bit of a just an eye opener,
I guess Petros.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Can I ask you a question because I may have
gotten across the streams here on this, but did you
tell a story one time locally on the blowtorch and
five seventy l A sports that Jeff, Goldbloom stole your girlfriend.
Speaker 11 (35:49):
I don't want to enough about the gold Bloom. I
talked about gold Bloom before.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
We haven't talked about it.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
He didn't steal my girlfriend.
Speaker 11 (35:56):
But it was a girl I was trying to take
somewhere for the weekend, and instead she went with.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Gold Bloom somewhere else for the weekend.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
That's kind of sounding like stolen to me. Man.
Speaker 11 (36:07):
Yeah, but she wasn't my girlfriend, you know what I mean.
She went with gold Bloom as opposed to me. Wasn't
the last time I saw her. I don't know if
it was the last time.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Gold Bloom saw it. Wasn't the last time you've seen her?
So her so you got right out there.
Speaker 11 (36:25):
I had sown her again, I had sown her once,
so you didn't lose.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
So she chose the fly over the old pe.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You know, you always do this, and.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I'm just that I just was wondering, that's all, you know,
trying to.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Think you've really irritated the old piece.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I mean, I'm just like, you know, I did this story.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
I did the hippie explosion story, but you never I
don't want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Gold okay, but I'm saying, you never told the gold
Bloom story on this show.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
That's what it's nothing about it.
Speaker 11 (36:58):
I told you the girls now married to a car
dealer in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I just want to know if you want us to,
you know, take care of gold Bloom for you.
Speaker 11 (37:07):
I don't have a problem with gold Bloom. He seems
like a chalented guy. She although I heard he has
some uh proclivities towards some things that might some of
us may not find savory.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Oh like like like nothing.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
She asked me a question about football, like dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
All right, I got one, petros uh uh the running
back position. Okay, As a former running back, when you
see these guys complaining about the contracts they're getting and
the position being devalued, does it kind of break your
heart a little bit thinking back fondly to those days
running the football that it's just not viewed as the same.
(37:49):
But whether it's passing academies or seven on seven tournaments
or whatever it is, it feels like that position of
football has kind of been lost through the course of time.
Speaker 11 (37:57):
Well, you still need a good running back, right, I mean,
for the most part, you got to have a guy
that can run the ball and you need to be
able to run the ball to have success. But who's
running the ball and how much do you have to
pay that guy? I guess that's the part about it
that sucks. And I think it comes back to a
time where we were all as interested, if not more
(38:22):
interested in who was playing tailback for any given football
team than who was playing quarterback.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Right.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I mean I remember, like.
Speaker 11 (38:35):
You mentioned Christian Akoye, okay, and then the Lions had
Barry Sanders, and the Bears had Walter Payton or Neil Anderson,
and we all remember Bo Jackson. I mean, these guys
were who.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
You tuned in to watch.
Speaker 11 (38:51):
I mean, there were some running backs in the league,
Thurman Thomas, you'd be scared, Yeah, Eric, my god, you
know you'd be scared, get a hot dog or leave
the room because you might miss something that this guy does.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
And that's I.
Speaker 11 (39:08):
Mean to me, a great run is still more exciting
than a guy throwing the ball downfield. I agree, and
so in that regard, I am really heartbroken that they
just aren't the marquee name. I mean, even going back,
you know, you don't have to go back to our childhood.
(39:30):
I mean, what about what Larry Johnson did the Penn
State running back you know, for the short time he
did it, And that's kind of the thing. A short
time Priest Holmes, you know, short time Ray Rice. I
mean we've had Yeah, Ladanian was a one stop shop.
I mean, he could really do everything, and you just don't.
(39:53):
I mean, there's just not as much of that anymore,
like just traditional.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Blitz pick up.
Speaker 11 (39:57):
A lot of things are just a lot more you know,
these guys are out on routes.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
And they'd better be receivers. You better be able to
line up.
Speaker 11 (40:07):
I mean, when I was a running back, if we
had to go out and like shift out into the
perimeter and line up like a receiver and like point
at the ref, I mean, we felt like we were
wearing a dress.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
You know. I mean it was you know, that was
not that.
Speaker 11 (40:27):
Yeah, we might as well have been rolling. But but
now it's it's a lot different. Football is a lot
more multiple. And I'm not saying these guys are in
any way less talented. I mean, because I see a
lot of them at the college level and see them
take over games and enjoy that. But the fact that
(40:51):
it's hard to get paid the way that almost every
other position of value or whatever is getting paid because
of the lack of shelf life. I guess that you
have at that position. It's reality, It's what it is.
But it's sad, m it is heartbreaking.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Do you do you think that you know, they say trends,
you know, kind of repeat themselves. Do you do you
feel like there's the chance that it'll come back?
Speaker 4 (41:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (41:25):
I mean, will you not as a running back if
you're in the A gap, the B gap or the
C or running a stretch player or anything. Is there
not going to be a linebacker on rollerblades running at you?
Speaker 4 (41:38):
You know?
Speaker 11 (41:38):
I mean, is there not going to be a hard
hitting run support safety or some really really great tackling
nickel you know, let alone, God help you some defensive lineman.
Because most of the time, if those guys get their
hands on you, you know, it's game over because they're
near the backfield and you haven't really gotten any kind
(41:59):
of momentum. So I mean, as long as you're not
getting I mean, we used to just run people until
they died, right.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
We don't do that anymore.
Speaker 11 (42:08):
Now we have a first down guy who was the
first third down back? Was it Dave Meggot, Ronnie Harmon,
Dave Meghan, Eric Metcalf was a great one. You know,
we started putting different guys in on third down and
throwing them screen passes and throwing them swing.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Pass date Dave Meghan, I remember that.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Number thirty, right, Yeah, giants.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
With those old school like the cool Giants jerseys from
the eighties and right.
Speaker 11 (42:38):
And then you know, of course we all saw what
Sprolls did. Sprolls was kind of you know, all of
those guys could play every down.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Do you think it was Andy Reid who ushered in
the evolution and ultimately maybe possibly the detriment of running
backs because he he kind of to me he took
on that with with Brian wa like he really did
it with Deuce douced Daley.
Speaker 11 (43:04):
Yeah, but I mean there's been a lot of really
creative coaches that have moved people around and stuff like that.
But yeah, these guys started getting I mean, it just
started by using certain backs for certain situations, and then
it got to the point where you don't you just
don't see a guy very often take over a drive
(43:28):
and carry the ball five, six, seven times in a drive,
you know, Charles White style and it's not that it
doesn't happen. It does happen, but usually they'll put another
back in somewhere around the thirty yard line, you know
what I mean. And then more then they'll get the
other guy back in or whatever. And you know, I
(43:50):
was a specialty back. That's how I got on the
field way back. You know, when I started playing, I
was a short yardage guy. So uh, you know, I mean,
I like the fact that it gets more guys on
the field and that we're not just giving the ball
to a guy forty times a game, which is not
really great for anybody, although we do love to see
(44:12):
it from time to time. But also it's sad because
it's devalued the position for people trying to make a living,
you know, running the football. I would always say, running
the football or playing professional football is really no.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Way to make a living.
Speaker 11 (44:30):
Just what I see and how these guys have to
manage their lives and what your life is as a
pro football player, and how you get spit out and
how long you have to look through a face mask.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
As your job. That's not easy.
Speaker 11 (44:46):
And I used to think as a young guy, well like, yeah,
that guy made the NFL. His life is great, and
I learned that it's almost always the exact opposite. So
not to preach about anything but running are part of
the problem. But I think pro football is a tough,
a really tough way to make a living.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
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Speaker 3 (45:10):
He is.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Petros Papadek is the co host of the Petros and
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Football season's fast approaching, Baby, it's coming up two months away.
Speaker 11 (45:22):
You got a famous pro football player sitting right there.
Tell you all about it. Oh, come on, I'm going
to the Mountain West Media Day. Leave me alone, all right.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
So have some fun at Mountain West Media Day. Let
us know how Yeah, that's the new PAC twelve.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
It's the new Whack.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Okay, Petros will do it again next week.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Thanks so much. See you at the Peak.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Got a question for you, ty Iraq. So Cafe to ten, Yes,
you go there for lunch.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
But when I get it in, I go to champs.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So cafe is out to my man DJ Rictor or
Richter Scale. Yay, shouts up to my dough.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
So two ten is the matine spot.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Two ten is just like that's like, that's nostalgia. That's nostalgia.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Okay, now what is the So when you're at Cafe
two ten and State College, Yeah, and you're gonna do
LeVar Islands?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah? Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Are you going to make the mistake that you made
when we were in Arizona for the Super Bowl together
where it was time to go and you were coerced
into having another long island, which completely say you.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Imagine these are real long islands though, like you know
how you go places and you're wondering and thinking is
it real?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Not at to ten all right, like not at two ten,
Like it is a perfected drink and you know you
know what you're getting when you get it there. So
I always get my hotel. I stay. Shout out to
my people at Hyatt as well. I stay at the Hyatt.
(01:35):
They was trying to get me on there so bad
that they didn't want me to come to the football building.
They want me to stay there and do the show.
You know, I'm walking distance from Champs, I'm walking distance
from to ten. What else? What else?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I mean, there's.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Something else I'm missing. There's there's something else that I'm missing?
What am I missing?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
You know?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
The breakfast potatoes here in State College are the bomb?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
All right?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
What makes them better than anywhere else?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
They're the bomb? I don't know, man, They're just the
way they're supposed to taste, a little crispy. Er. They
are a little crispy, but they had this like little
I don't know, it's just the taste of them are
the way a breakfast potato should taste.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And by the way, it wasn't two ten the place
that got you into Long Islands to begin with.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
That's correct.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Ye, So so when you have that first sip, it
really does take you back.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Oh yes, that's the point. That's why do you realize?
That's why I started drinking Long Islands again? That was
the whole point, because I was really for a long time,
I was tequila and grapefruit. And then I started like
when I started like kind of you know, thinking about
when I was somebody and it mattered in life and
(02:56):
people respected me and revered me and wors up the
ground that I walked on. I was in state college
and when I began having adult beverages, well, I was
introduced to Long Islands. And I'll never forget Keijhnakart, which
this is super cool. I'm gonna probably see Key John.
(03:18):
I know Oj McDuffie will be here. Some people may
not remember who Oj McDuffie is, but Oj McDuffie is
one of the dopest football players to ever played at
Penn State, ended up going to Miami, had an unfortunately injury.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well yeah, but he was a very good player with.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
The Dolphins, super super dope. And so they're the ones
that introduced me, and they got me faded, Like I
mean fade them dudes. Go hard them. They're like twin brothers,
go hard in the paint, Like it's like having Shaq
and Yao ming in the paint at the same time
(03:55):
on the same team. Like they go hard and the
paint and so that that that was how I got
introduced to it. I'll never forget it. That was also
how I got introduced, I believe, to Grenadine and Coronas,
which I thought was weird, but after trying it, I
(04:15):
thought it was very very cool. I had it like
maybe a three year run with Coronas and Grenadine.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, I learned a lot of like interesting things here,
you know. And I just really been in love with
Penn State man like lately. So I've just been on
Long Islands for like I don't know, like for a
few years now. I just I've just been back on it.
That's my thing.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's what it's laic. See, we got to live vicariously
through you to be to be a Hall of Famer.
That's how that works.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I mean, they're about to go outside and practice. I almost,
for two seconds almost said I thought they were going
to be practicing after the show. Clearly I'm still on
West Coast time, because they're like, yeah, they're practicing at seven.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I was like, perfect.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Then you realized hour two. I realized it's only hour
two here though, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I mean, you know what else is probably practicing later today? Yes, definitely.
D's on Sanders is what it is. Deon Sanders Prime
and the Colorado Buffalo's are getting ready for an exciting
season featured back to back weeks to start off the
year on Big Noon Kickoff. But the conversation for Deon
Sanders on Sports Illustrated turned to the potential of coaching
(05:27):
a team he played for in the NFL, the Dallas Cowboys.
So he spoke with Brie and Mooranthus of Sports Illustrated
about that possibility. And let's take a listen to Dion
and make the comparisons between college and the NFL and
the potential of going back and reuniting with Jerry Jones
as a head coach.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm not an assistant coach. That's not me. I'm ahead.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I'm not because I know who I am, I know
what I am, and I don't settle for mediocre to whatsoever.
I don't have any of these ambition to coach in
the NFL. I have a problem with men getting the
check and not doing the jobs. I have a problem
with that, Like I would be too tough as a
coach in the NFL. I'm old school. You know you're
(06:13):
gonna do it. You're gonna do it this way. We're
gonna work out, but we're gonna be a team. The
only thing that's gonna be individual about you is the
way you play.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So I'm a little different. I'm kind of a little different,
but I love it. I love Jerry Jones.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
I tremendously love that whole family, and uh, you know,
their step away oftentimes.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
On doesn't like I didn't like being a coach in
the NFL because you know, he's a little bit too
old school. Doesn't feel like they could they could handle
some of that criticism that he would dish out there Beyonce.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Sensitive thugs need hugs. As my man Fred Smoot has said,
I mean, there's a lot of personalities that you have
to deal with, and from what I can gather, it's
way more intense now dealing with you know, pro athletes.
I mean, I don't know, I really I have dealt
(07:11):
with a lot of young people I've mentored. I told
you I officially retired. I'm retired from it, and I'm retired,
like in terms of bringing kids into my home and
stuff like that, like that's I'm done. But I've done
it for so long and I watched the evolution of
how these kids are. Man They're like they've they've they've
(07:36):
turned into zombies. They're like, they're like emotionally emotionally unstable zombies.
That's what they are these days. And they're driven by
AI artificial intelligence. That's a that's this generation of pros,
(08:01):
that's this generation of athletes. It's so weird. If you
could see guys, you can know you can know guys
that come from good homes that are AI zombies because
their parents were good parents, probably two family, two parent home,
(08:22):
and allowed allowed them to be raised by YouTube, social media,
mobile devices. They were raised and influenced by them. You
can tell the cats that come from single parent homes
and are literally with no like father figure or mother figure,
(08:47):
whichever one it may be, and they're influenced by the
same exact things, Like they're all influenced by the same
exact things, the same exact music and videos and stuff.
They're they're in influenced by the same exact things, but
have different different upbringings. And you can tell what type
of zombie they are. This new generation, they're zombies. And
(09:12):
so if you're going to coach a zombie that's getting
a paycheck and and oftentimes more than you. Some of
these some of these players are making more than you
as a coach. So so these zombies, these AI controlled
zombies are looking at you like what are you talking about?
(09:35):
What are you talking to me about? And why like
why are you talking to me? Like? Get out of
my face? It does, and that's what I've seen in
terms of the evolution. Like it's just it's like here
they be looking at you like they're listening, but they're not.
They're not, I'm telling you. And it's at the high
(09:59):
school level. Well, he's saying pros And I would say,
the only reason why you say that at pros is
because that's the level where they're actually really everyone's getting paid.
You're a professional. But it's at the high school level. Hell,
it's at the pee wee level. I'm playing this position.
No you're not, Yes, I am. Like it's like so
(10:21):
many agendas and so much disconnect from reality with how
these youngsters are these days. It's kind of it's I'll
say it's a tad bit disturbing.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
When he says when he makes the comment and he
compares the two obviously, you know, I don't want to
say two different sports, same sport, but different level. Coaching
in the NFL and coaching in college, it does feel
like two different worlds. And what I find interesting about
it is if a coach either doesn't make the jump
(10:55):
to the NFL but as a successful college coach, or
he makes the jump from college to the NFL, but
maybe he isn't as successful as he is in college,
they're almost diminished, like, yeah, but you didn't do it
at the NFL. Yeah, but you couldn't get done there.
It's almost like a knock on their resume. When Dion
Sanders is telling you, Look, i played at the highest
level in the NFL, I'm coaching Division I college football.
(11:17):
I've had success coaching college football. I'm telling you I'm
not interested in it because it's another world and just
the ability. Yeah, and so that's why it's.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You can you can threaten guys in college.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, it feels like and it almost feels like there's
you're sort of knocked if you can't do it in
the NFL when in the NFL maybe you just don't
have the ability to because maybe it's more difficult to
tell a guy who's making fifteen million dollars a year. No,
you're going to be here at this time. We're practicing
this hard. Eh No, I'm not like, I'm just I'm
just not doing it like it's a it's a whole
(11:53):
different job. It feels like and and I think his
approach is, man, I want to be able to actually
coach play is not manage personalities. And he feels like
he's got to do that at the NFL level more
so than college.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
It's kind of I think you definitely have more control
in college than you do and in the pros and
really in any other any other level, because if you're
talking high school, you could you could threaten somebody in
high school. They'll go tell their mother or their father
you're going to get fired, like you're out of there,
(12:26):
or they'll quit like I'm not going to make it anyway.
Or you can look at college and you'll be like
I'm almost there, Like I am one level away from
making it to the pros. And whether you're a backup
or you're a starter, you know that everything at this
(12:49):
point truly matters, like the way the coaches talk about you, everything,
your film, everything matters. When you get to that point
of where you're at actually able to look at the
pros as being a valuable possibility, and so you're willing
to handle the verbal abuse that comes your way because
(13:11):
you don't have anything except the game and what that
game can provide for you. You're not going to let
no professor talk to you that way. You're not going
to let anybody else outside of a coach talk to
you the way that a coach is going to talk
to you at times because of what it is that's
at stake for you, which is weird, right, because you
(13:32):
would think like, well, if a coach can talk to
you crazy, then a professor should be able to talk
to you crazy. I wish a professor would talk to
me crazy. I wish one, I wish one would like
who the audacity of you, educator of a higher level
(13:53):
raising your voice at me, mother e fing me? Please,
you're not going to talk to me that way, but
let a coach do it. And you be sitting there like.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Sir, yes, sir, I'll be I'll be outside tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I'll be outside. Yeah, I'll get it right this time
it Please don't mother f me like I don't even
say that, you just take it. So I just think
it's the level of control and Dion Dion would probably
people don't realize how detailed. If you didn't know him,
you wouldn't know how detailed Dion is. Dion is almost
(14:32):
I mean, you know, I ain't I'm not one to
clinically diagnose anybody, but Dion is almost like almost like
like a rain Man type bro. He's like really really
like o CD with what he does, like every single detail.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I mean, a lot of successful people are like like
every every ounce of it matters, like every set like
some a lot of people would dismiss, well, why does
it matter if I, you know, get up at this
time and make my bed first. And for some people
it's like that's how it gets him going, Like that's
that's the first step in a long process of a
successful day. And it's always like you know the old adage,
(15:14):
you know, run the day, don't let the day run you.
And he strikes me as one of those guys who's
going to be in control and he's going to have
full control of whatever he's got his hands on and
whatever he's operating, and he probably feels like I don't
have the ability to have full control. In the NFL
That's why we talked about it last week, Nick Saban.
Some people will look at Nick Saban's run in the
(15:34):
NFL and say, oh, yeah, he wasn't successful, so they
almost diminish his historical impact on the gear. No, hell no,
he wasn't bad. But he recognized, Okay, I'm better served
going back and coaching at Alabama then staying here with
the Dolphins and trying to figure out the quarterback position,
which was the issue. And guess what, he was right, Like,
(15:56):
he's become the greatest head coach in the history of
college football. What do you think People look at it
and say, yeah, but he couldn't do it at that
at that level in the NFL, So therefore, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I just show me your your accolades. To the people
that said, oh, he couldn't do it, show me your accolades,
accolades please, Yeah, what are your accomplishments? Oh, he couldn't
do it at at the pro level? Show me what
was your how'd you do at the pro level? What'd
you do?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
What'd you do? Agreed?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
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Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, come on.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Bar uh yeah, come home, yeah, come home.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Yeah, it's still var day. Yeah ak ooh Long Island
LeVar Ye, about to get it right after the hour three,
I'm gonna walk get me some breakfast.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I's just suddenly I'm gonna walk to get me some breakfast.
I'm gonna get me some breakfast potato. Then I'm gonna
take a hour, wait about two or three hours, and
then I'm going to the two ten to get me
little VARs in inside my blood stream. And I'm gonna
be really really mean.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
So here's well done. That's well done. Could you do
that again if you tried? Hell no, that's well done.
I gotta ask you. So you're going to get the
breakfast potatoes?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah? Man, I think I'm gonna walk campus. Man. All right,
So okay, I don't have a vehicle.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
So then what do you get with the breakfast potato?
Do you get a cocktail with the breakfast potatoes?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Or no? I drink water in the morning. You know,
I stayed, I stay truema. I'm gonna get a i'mna,
I'm gonna get a workout in. I'm gonna get a
workout in and and and I'm gonna work out in
our like I said, in our facility. I'm here in
the lash building in State College. So shouts out to
the Penn State football team before allow me to come
(18:09):
in and use the facility. I missed practice. I think
practice is over now. I heard the guys coming in.
That's pretty loud, and I loved hearing the noise. But yeah,
I'm in the football building, and so I'll probably get
a workout when I finish up with you guys here,
maybe even get like a little little whirlpool sauna, you know. Action.
(18:32):
Then I'm gonna just walk. I'm gonna walk and go
get get breakfast. I'll get I'll probably get steak and
eggs with with with my my home fried with with
my breakfast potatoes.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And that's the move for those of you out there,
don't make the mistake of eating before you go and
work out. Always work out on an empty stomach. It's
called fasted working out. You know that or that or
some cardio, because what ends up happening is that you
don't have a bunch of food to pull your energy from.
It just pulls from your fat cells. You actually burn
more fat, you get a better lift. You may feel like,
(19:03):
oh I'm a little lightheaded. I need something before I
go to the gym. Just get through it, drink a
bunch of walk.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Used to doing it? Yeah, I'm so used to doing Isn't.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
It better when you're there and not having to work
on an empty stomach? When you get a bunch of
food you're burping up while you're trying to do cardio?
It's disgusting better it, I mean? And then that's something
the eggs a teen you're gonna get right after you liftde.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
But I'm going to get that cardio walking from the
facility to the place I'm going to go eat. So
I'm gonna go out down on College. Yeah, I'm a walk.
I'm a walk today and that's gonna be a little
bit of a walk too. But I'm a walk. You
know what's crazy, man? My oldest daughter committed to LMU.
(19:47):
She's gonna go to Loyola marymout.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Right what our buldest daughter.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, Hank school, Hank gathering Bo Kimball's school. Right, that
cap is is like a ten minute walk, like all
the way through, and I literally and this was before
I really started kind of exercising, like really heavy and
get my cardio up and all that. Man, I walked
(20:13):
for like five minutes, and within the five minutes we
were stopping and standing. I didn't realize how often when
I was out of shape. I didn't realize how often
I found places to sit down. So I didn't have
a place to sit down. And we're standing and we're
(20:33):
looking at these classes and I'm looking. I'm like, man,
my psiatic nerve, psiatica nerve or whatever it is. It's
like it's like screaming at me, and I can't sit down.
And I'm looking around and I'm like, these are all
volleyball players. They're laughing, hooting and hollering on these five
minute walks. And finally I'm literally on my last leg
(20:55):
about to fall the hell out because I was just
so like spent spunt because I couldn't sit down. And
they were like, yeah, we're going to go look at
the apartment accommodations this and I was like, I'm going
to sit down. They were like, are you okay? I
was like, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Okay. Now, was this before or after you'd gotten into
the college Football.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Hall of Fame? Ooh, it was after.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Okay, because that's when you flash the ring and say
make all your jokes now you want. Back in the day,
I would have torn this entire place off.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
It's just crazy, like I didn't. You don't really realize
how much like if you go to a big school.
When people say I don't really want to go to
a big school, I never really understood it because I
never really took visits too many visits I committed. I
didn't take any like real official visits, so I don't
know what a whole lot of other campuses look like Jonas.
(21:50):
So the idea of walking campus or I used to
roller blade too, rollerblading around campus was like that's a norm,
Like you gotta walk Ford twenty thirty minutes sometimes to
get to to get to a class, literally, like twenty
thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Hold on a second, you were trying to get to
class on roller blades back, I wasn't trying.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I used to roller blade the class.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Like you see, you're just cruising up and down the
Penn State campus on a pair of bowers, trying to
get to a class.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Absolutely, Why why didn't you just get a frying Because
I was good at roller blade? Don't say like what
like I enjoyed it, like I really like and I
got work, like you know how good that is, like
on strengthening your legs and stuff. Like it's like I
got good work as So.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Did you have an extra like a pair of shoes
in your back?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yes? In my back?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Okay, I was gonna say, because like would you just
sit there like roller Girl on Boogie Nights, just sitting
in class with the skates on or.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
With my skates off and my socks on and stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, like yeah, yeah, I had.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Shoes and put my roller blades on my book bag
like strap them on because I didn't have the the
strings I had the I had like these monarch butterfly
type they were fly man, they were some fly roller blades.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I think I remember those, and they had butterflies.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
They were they were like they had straps, like they
didn't have strings, they had straps, and so I would
strap them onto my my book bag and go into
class and like people thought that that s was cool,
Like they're like, man, dude, is this big black mothersucker?
Can can like he's really moving around campus. That's LeVar
(23:39):
Arrington moving around campus on these roller blades.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
He could seem like it was such a rare occurrence
to see.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I mean, how many people tell me? Truth? Lee, you
can chime in on this. Perfect is on on on
the ones and tuesdaday right that perfect? Okay, y'all chime
in on this. How many black dudes have you seen
on roller blades in your entire lifetime? Truth? Can you
count on one hand?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Venice Beach, you see everything?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
How many?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
In fact? How many black dudes?
Speaker 7 (24:08):
There's a very famous, uh dude that everybody knows if
you've been to Venice, black dude with a guitar on
roller blades?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Okay, how many have you seen?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I don't know his name, but everyone knows who he is.
That everyone's seen.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Him, Lee, how many have you seen?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I've actually, I can actually think of a couple, A couple,
you ask a.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Couple of guy, No, no, no, no, that still makes
the point. A couple in a lifetime. How many white dudes?
How many white dudes have you seen? Roller blade?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Lots?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, lots? Well, I mean Eddie Garcia is our resident
lots a resident hockey member here.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Eddie, Eddie, how many how many black dudes have you
seen roller blade out in public?
Speaker 8 (24:52):
You know, you could actually ask Petros about this. There
is a there is a guy in San Pedro who
has a dog in his backpack roller blades around.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
He does. But that's the only one I know.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Okay, there we go. But I was the dude with
the dog in the backpack at Penn State. I was
roller blading, probably the only black dude on campus.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
To the watch out for those you know, cracks in
the sidewalk there.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Hey, man, I was so smooth. I was smooth on
them blades. Man, I'm telling you, I was smooth. I
get there. LaVar ma Yagur, LeVar ma Yagur.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I like it? Yeah that's his shirt, Lvar my yager.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Gotta get the mullet though, Yeah you do.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Kind of got the mullet coming in right now, you know,
got cut the sides. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I was not great. I was not great at rollerblading.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
It was not my thing.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
By the way, Harry Perry is the famous uh rollerblader
on Venice Beach. Harry Perry, Yeah still have he makes
He's like in music videos.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It's not a shot in hell. That's a real name.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
In fact, Harry, I think I just saw him in
I Love You Man. I was rewatching I Love You Man.
I think he's in that really. Yeah, So it's like
a full blown celebrity.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Okay, So there's two LaVar Arrington and Harry Perry and
the guy in San Pedro and the guy in San Pedro.
So there's ansel LeVar.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Probably that's three.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
We put three together on this this conversation.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Three black rollerbladers in my life living down in Savannah,
Georgia too, all right, so counting another two in Savannah Jo.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Nobody roller blade in Savannah, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So we've got five black rollerbladers in the history of mankind.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
So there's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I think we really accomplished something here that's rarefied air.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
One of five.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
That's even more prestigious than the college Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Levary Man, how many whiteople A lot a lot of them?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
In fact, if you went to a rollerblade rally, jachelled, hey,
white guy turn around like you and Harry Perry would
be like, what about us? That's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Ah, Man, Well, there it.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Is, by the way to pay off the tea's real
quick Kellen Moore with some kind words about working with
Justin herber. So the Rollerblade conversation felt like it was
a little bit more more entertaining at least.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
So there's that.
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Speaker 2 (28:29):
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him on Twitter at the old p Petros. Good morning,
what's happening?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Good morning? How's everybody doing?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Good morning? Just hanging out.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
We got a really really important question we want to
ask for important to get things started.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
What is it? All right?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Super important?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
How many black rollerbladers have you known?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Well? They're ever seeing in Thompson character from my he Ducks.
Speaker 11 (29:01):
Okay, they have the whole black rollerblading team in South Central,
don't you guys know?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
How about that with the knuckle puck?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
But how about in person?
Speaker 4 (29:10):
What do you mean in person? I live in LA.
Speaker 11 (29:13):
That was when the that was when the Junior Olympics
came to LA and there was the Iceland team, the
Evil Iceland Team.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Eddie, Eddie Garcia is with us here. Eddie's of San
Pedro legend Petros Eddie. So, who is this individual in
San Pedro?
Speaker 8 (29:29):
I don't know his name, but there's a black gentleman
who has a little dog in a backpack, and he
rollerblades around San Pedro.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Where have you seen him on Gaffy Street?
Speaker 4 (29:38):
No?
Speaker 11 (29:38):
But then again, I don't live in San Pedro anymore so,
but a lot of the local flavor does not escape me.
And I'm not saying that guy doesn't exist. I'm just
saying that I've not seen him. I certainly don't doubt
his existence.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You didn't see any black rollerbladers outside your dad's restaurant? No, okay,
exactly just wondering.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
But that's exactly right. Where are you going to see
black rollerbladers?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Mighty Ducks too? All right?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
There you go a movie.
Speaker 11 (30:10):
D two when Emilio Estevez is Gordon Bombay, loses his
way and goes Hollywood, gets kind of turned out, lives
in Malibu while the team's in a hotel unsupervised.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Nobody remembers this movie.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, I remember, I remember the Mighty Ducks.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Don't you remember?
Speaker 11 (30:28):
There's like a big press conference at the turnstile end
of the coliseum and Estevez says something like Team USA
is going all the way, and then the evil Iceland
coach goes, Timus has gone down.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Not so they're going. You guys don't remember that.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
No, I don't remember.
Speaker 11 (30:49):
That's that's unfortunate because that is a big seminal moment
in sports in this country for the young people.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Mighty ducks too.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
So the reason we brought up the black rollerblading topic.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Because I was a black rollerblader.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Lvar used to get to and from class at Penn
State on rollerblades.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Did you last are you laughing at?
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (31:12):
I mean, look, LeVar was one of the most intimidating
linebackers in the history of college football, certainly for my time.
And roller blades make you like three inches taller.
Speaker 12 (31:22):
Yeah, and still that would I just I remember being
in class at USC and we played around the same
time and seeing dudes like rollerblade into class, sit there
with their rollerblades on, and then.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
Roll out, literally roll out, mostly like Asian dudes.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
And I was always just like.
Speaker 11 (31:49):
Wow, just I was just like wow, Like what a commitment,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Like, I took my roller blades off when I got
to the building.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
All the way off. You didn't roll into class, No,
I did not roll in. Why did you do shoes
in the backpack?
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Shoes in the backpack? Yes, I did shoes in the backpack.
Speaker 11 (32:08):
And and when what was what kept you from wanting
the bicycle?
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You had to find a place to put the bicycle.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Lock the bike so it doesn't it lock.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Like it's just like I just felt like it's less
stress like it's just quick, like you roll up, pop
them off, put your shoes on, you connect them to
your backpack. Boom.
Speaker 11 (32:28):
You're No one ever said anything to you, of course, okay,
people did, all.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Right, yeah, people people commented.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
All right, okay, as long as you knew what you
were doing was weird. I mean I walked around with
a Hello Kitty backpack for you.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So you're comparing me roller blade into a Hello Kitty backpack.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Oh, I'd say it's much worse the roller blade, do
you think so?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
How big is USC's campus. Is it big?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
No?
Speaker 11 (32:54):
I mean it's a few compared to like a town
where like the whole town is a college campus.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah. No, No, that's like like Penn State State College
is like a whole town is the college.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
But it's flat.
Speaker 11 (33:08):
You know, USC doesn't have a lot of hills like
when I was at cal. You know, call is basically
a hill. It's from the bottom of the hill to
the top of the hill, and roller blades don't help you,
I mean unless you want to die going downhill, going down,
and you certainly can't roller blade uphill. And uh it's
not really that easy to bicycle uphill. So all the
(33:30):
football players literally had like some souped up scooter like
they were like scooting around wuhan, you know, in China.
It was chaos, you know, And I'll never forget. I
may have told this story before. When I was a
freshman at CAL, I was walking to class.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Near this area called say Their Gate.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Oh god, I read this story.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah, I'm sorry. I shouldn't tell you.
Speaker 11 (33:58):
I just saw there was a hippie on a like
a ten speed, like a real hippie with like long hair,
flying behind him like a cartoon, and he was flying
down the hill. And also like a cartoon, there was
a small Asian woman with like three hundred books in
her hands, stacks and stacks of paper. And I have
(34:20):
not seen a collision like this other than the football field.
I mean, just an explosion.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
At water a koyea.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
It was unbelievable.
Speaker 11 (34:30):
It was I just could not you know, at water
a koye if a koye's thigh pads flew out, and
you know at waters like all his arm paraphernalia went down.
You know, it was like a station. It was like
a Hallmark store exploded. It was unbelievable. And it made
the paper the next day. It made the Californian.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Oh, I want to do a character check here. Did
you laugh?
Speaker 11 (34:57):
Oh no, no, mortify No, I mean I just took
things in back then.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I just you know, I remember my first day at CAL.
Speaker 11 (35:06):
I saw a guy in a tidy whitey shimmy up
the American flag and lighted on fire.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Oh wow, And.
Speaker 11 (35:12):
I was like, I think I need a change of clothes.
You know, I was dressed all preppy.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
You're overdressed.
Speaker 11 (35:18):
Yeah, yeah, well my girlfriend laid out this outfit for
me on the first day school and all that.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
So uh yeah, it was the whole, the whole, my
whole moment.
Speaker 11 (35:27):
No, that was before that, but my whole moment at
CAL was a bit of a just an eye opener,
I guess Petros.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Can I ask you a question because I may have
gotten across the streams here on this, but did you
tell a story one time locally on the blowtorch and
five seventy l A sports that Jeff, Goldbloom stole your girlfriend.
Speaker 11 (35:49):
I don't want to enough about the gold Bloom. I
talked about gold Bloom before.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
We haven't talked about it.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
He didn't steal my girlfriend.
Speaker 11 (35:56):
But it was a girl I was trying to take
somewhere for the weekend, and instead she went with.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Gold Bloom somewhere else for the weekend.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
That's kind of sounding like stolen to me. Man.
Speaker 11 (36:07):
Yeah, but she wasn't my girlfriend, you know what I mean.
She went with gold Bloom as opposed to me. Wasn't
the last time I saw her. I don't know if
it was the last time.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Gold Bloom saw it. Wasn't the last time you've seen her?
So her so you got right out there.
Speaker 11 (36:25):
I had sown her again, I had sown her once,
so you didn't lose.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
So she chose the fly over the old pe.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You know, you always do this, and.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I'm just that I just was wondering, that's all, you know,
trying to.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Think you've really irritated the old piece.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I mean, I'm just like, you know, I did this story.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
I did the hippie explosion story, but you never I
don't want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Gold okay, but I'm saying, you never told the gold
Bloom story on this show.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
That's what it's nothing about it.
Speaker 11 (36:58):
I told you the girls now married to a car
dealer in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I just want to know if you want us to,
you know, take care of gold Bloom for you.
Speaker 11 (37:07):
I don't have a problem with gold Bloom. He seems
like a chalented guy. She although I heard he has
some uh proclivities towards some things that might some of
us may not find savory.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Oh like like like nothing.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
She asked me a question about football, like dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
All right, I got one, petros uh uh the running
back position. Okay, As a former running back, when you
see these guys complaining about the contracts they're getting and
the position being devalued, does it kind of break your
heart a little bit thinking back fondly to those days
running the football that it's just not viewed as the same.
(37:49):
But whether it's passing academies or seven on seven tournaments
or whatever it is, it feels like that position of
football has kind of been lost through the course of time.
Speaker 11 (37:57):
Well, you still need a good running back, right, I mean,
for the most part, you got to have a guy
that can run the ball and you need to be
able to run the ball to have success. But who's
running the ball and how much do you have to
pay that guy? I guess that's the part about it
that sucks. And I think it comes back to a
time where we were all as interested, if not more
(38:22):
interested in who was playing tailback for any given football
team than who was playing quarterback.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Right.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
I mean I remember, like.
Speaker 11 (38:35):
You mentioned Christian Akoye, okay, and then the Lions had
Barry Sanders, and the Bears had Walter Payton or Neil Anderson,
and we all remember Bo Jackson. I mean, these guys
were who.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
You tuned in to watch.
Speaker 11 (38:51):
I mean, there were some running backs in the league,
Thurman Thomas, you'd be scared, Yeah, Eric, my god, you
know you'd be scared, get a hot dog or leave
the room because you might miss something that this guy does.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
And that's I.
Speaker 11 (39:08):
Mean to me, a great run is still more exciting
than a guy throwing the ball downfield. I agree, and
so in that regard, I am really heartbroken that they
just aren't the marquee name. I mean, even going back,
you know, you don't have to go back to our childhood.
(39:30):
I mean, what about what Larry Johnson did the Penn
State running back you know, for the short time he
did it, And that's kind of the thing. A short
time Priest Holmes, you know, short time Ray Rice. I
mean we've had Yeah, Ladanian was a one stop shop.
I mean, he could really do everything, and you just don't.
(39:53):
I mean, there's just not as much of that anymore,
like just traditional.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Blitz pick up.
Speaker 11 (39:57):
A lot of things are just a lot more you know,
these guys are out on routes.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
And they'd better be receivers. You better be able to
line up.
Speaker 11 (40:07):
I mean, when I was a running back, if we
had to go out and like shift out into the
perimeter and line up like a receiver and like point
at the ref, I mean, we felt like we were
wearing a dress.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
You know. I mean it was you know, that was
not that.
Speaker 11 (40:27):
Yeah, we might as well have been rolling. But but
now it's it's a lot different. Football is a lot
more multiple. And I'm not saying these guys are in
any way less talented. I mean, because I see a
lot of them at the college level and see them
take over games and enjoy that. But the fact that
(40:51):
it's hard to get paid the way that almost every
other position of value or whatever is getting paid because
of the lack of shelf life. I guess that you
have at that position. It's reality, It's what it is.
But it's sad, m it is heartbreaking.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Do you do you think that you know, they say trends,
you know, kind of repeat themselves. Do you do you
feel like there's the chance that it'll come back?
Speaker 4 (41:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (41:25):
I mean, will you not as a running back if
you're in the A gap, the B gap or the
C or running a stretch player or anything. Is there
not going to be a linebacker on rollerblades running at you?
Speaker 4 (41:38):
You know?
Speaker 11 (41:38):
I mean, is there not going to be a hard
hitting run support safety or some really really great tackling
nickel you know, let alone, God help you some defensive lineman.
Because most of the time, if those guys get their
hands on you, you know, it's game over because they're
near the backfield and you haven't really gotten any kind
(41:59):
of momentum. So I mean, as long as you're not
getting I mean, we used to just run people until
they died, right.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
We don't do that anymore.
Speaker 11 (42:08):
Now we have a first down guy who was the
first third down back? Was it Dave Meggot, Ronnie Harmon,
Dave Meghan, Eric Metcalf was a great one. You know,
we started putting different guys in on third down and
throwing them screen passes and throwing them swing.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Pass date Dave Meghan, I remember that.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Number thirty, right, Yeah, giants.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
With those old school like the cool Giants jerseys from
the eighties and right.
Speaker 11 (42:38):
And then you know, of course we all saw what
Sprolls did. Sprolls was kind of you know, all of
those guys could play every down.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Do you think it was Andy Reid who ushered in
the evolution and ultimately maybe possibly the detriment of running
backs because he he kind of to me he took
on that with with Brian wa like he really did
it with Deuce douced Daley.
Speaker 11 (43:04):
Yeah, but I mean there's been a lot of really
creative coaches that have moved people around and stuff like that.
But yeah, these guys started getting I mean, it just
started by using certain backs for certain situations, and then
it got to the point where you don't you just
don't see a guy very often take over a drive
(43:28):
and carry the ball five, six, seven times in a drive,
you know, Charles White style and it's not that it
doesn't happen. It does happen, but usually they'll put another
back in somewhere around the thirty yard line, you know
what I mean. And then more then they'll get the
other guy back in or whatever. And you know, I
(43:50):
was a specialty back. That's how I got on the
field way back. You know, when I started playing, I
was a short yardage guy. So uh, you know, I mean,
I like the fact that it gets more guys on
the field and that we're not just giving the ball
to a guy forty times a game, which is not
really great for anybody, although we do love to see
(44:12):
it from time to time. But also it's sad because
it's devalued the position for people trying to make a living,
you know, running the football. I would always say, running
the football or playing professional football is really no.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Way to make a living.
Speaker 11 (44:30):
Just what I see and how these guys have to
manage their lives and what your life is as a
pro football player, and how you get spit out and
how long you have to look through a face mask.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
As your job. That's not easy.
Speaker 11 (44:46):
And I used to think as a young guy, well like, yeah,
that guy made the NFL. His life is great, and
I learned that it's almost always the exact opposite. So
not to preach about anything but running are part of
the problem. But I think pro football is a tough,
a really tough way to make a living.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Get him on Twitter at the Old pe. He is
a Wednesday tradition here on the show.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
He is.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Petros Papadek is the co host of the Petros and
Money Show. You can hear it on AM five to
seventy LA Sports. Also a Fox College football analyst. Petros
Football season's fast approaching, Baby, it's coming up two months away.
Speaker 11 (45:22):
You got a famous pro football player sitting right there.
Tell you all about it. Oh, come on, I'm going
to the Mountain West Media Day. Leave me alone, all right.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
So have some fun at Mountain West Media Day. Let
us know how Yeah, that's the new PAC twelve.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
It's the new Whack.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Okay, Petros will do it again next week.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Thanks so much. See you at the Peak.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
There is he is. Petros Papadeka is always a fun
ride here with Petros on a Wednesday.
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