August 8, 2024 • 44 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington recap the latest from the Paris Olympics. Russell Wilson sits for now. TheMMQB’s Albert Breer joins the guys from the end of his training camp tour.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arrington, Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on
Box four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Every morning this week we've been giving updates on the Olympics.
This this one will be a little bit quicker. I
will ask you this. Did you have a chance to
watch the four hundred meters yesterday?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
No? Okay, I did not. I went to the last yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
You and everyone else who did not watch it, go
back and watch our man, Quincy Hall from the United
States run. What I will literally throw out there is
one of the greatest comebacks in the history of sports.
This dude was like like sixth place with about one
hundred meters to go, probably fourth place with about thirty
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meters to go, and he ran as hard as humanly
possible to go win that gold medal for the United States.
It was.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It was things the foreigner meters.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It was one of the coolest things I have ever
seen as far as a comeback, at least in terms
of track. The anyboney who's run track, who's run foreign meters,
they know how painful that event is. It is an
all out run for foreigner meters and you are hurting
by the end of it, and he looked like he
was in pain, grinded through it all the grit and
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determination to win the gold for the United States. So
that one, for sure, at least to me, stood out
Quincy all the old ones, Quincy Hall, Yep, you will
see it at some point. But the highlight was pretty special,
pretty crazy. And by the way, the United States is
way ahead when it comes to total medals.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I believe at ninety four if I've got that correct.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I think Lee, you've helped compile some of these numbers,
which could be a little suspect considering it. This is
Thursday morning, which means you had delivery Wednesday, yesterday, Lee,
So I'm not sure those numbers are quite accurate.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, they at some point they were accurate. At one
point these numbers were accurate.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Is this before after.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Time traveling?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
At they were accurate as of sometime last night, probably
four hours ago time traveling.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
How was delivery Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Delivery Wednesday was amazing. In fact, we were watching the
four hundred meter he Quincy was great. I was watching him,
was like, there's no way this guy's a real sprinter.
It looked like he was spassing out. He was trying
so hard it looked like he had lost his uh
you know uh framework, But I mean it was it
was amazing his form, thank you, his form. The form
looked weird.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
All of everyone's form was done at that point and
they were just trying their best to get there first.
What this point it was was Michael Norman, who I
think it set the world record at one point, maybe
in qualifying, but he had nothing left in the tank.
So anyway, it was unbelievable race. That one stood out
to me. That was That's one of the all time
great comebacks I've ever seen in any work. I mean
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I literally sent it to my dad. We were talking
about it, just how at one hundred meters You're like,
there's no way, there's no chance this guy's gonna.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Be able to come by.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
He was grunting it out. Yeah, I mean he grinted
it out. Painful, but nonetheless always always cool and fun.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Like I said, as long as we've got the Olympics
to talk about, to highlight some of the athletes and
all that good stuff. But training camp is underway LeVar
and there's a lot, a lot coming out for the
Pittsburgh Steelers, in particular the fact that we heard that
Russell Wilson, who has been dealing with a calf injury,
is still slated as the starter for the Steelers, even
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though he hasn't been able to practice quite as much.
He wants to play in the preseason, but Mike Tomblins
said no, Russell Wilson will be sitting for the preseason
first game and Justin Fields will get to start. Do
you feel like this kind of opens the door for
maybe Justin Fields to show out and put more pressure
on Walssell Wilson it or even maybe change Mike Toblins mind,
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because it feels like since Russell Wilson signed there got
there first, they've been pretty oudamant that he's the guy
into the first pole position, and he will be the
guy that kind of start.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
The season to be the guy at least with that
first shot.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I think it will give him a shorter leash to
walk on if Justin Field shows that his integration into
their offense is really good, is smooth during preseason.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I mean, if you got to think about.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
The biggest issue that you've seen coming from the Pittsburgh Steelers,
has been their offense.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
All right.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
That's what's been the reason why they've been much maligned
is because of how how their offense has really underperformed,
and more specifically, how their quarterbacks have underperformed. I mean,
they just pretty much let their draft pick go like
we're done, We're done here, and so I think justin Fields,
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I think he can really make it an interesting and
interesting play if he plays well. But I don't think
that he plays I kind of don't want to say that.
I don't. I don't know. I'm conflicted because I think
if he plays tremendously well in preseason, he probably should.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
He probably should.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Get an opportunity to start, because there's no reason to
say we're married to Russell Wilson other than the fact
that you know what Russe's resume is.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
He's a veteran.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
He probably came in there and probably wild and wooed
everyone that was around him. And they feel like this
is a now ur never moment for for this this
this Pittsburgh team. I think this is an all in
year for Pittsburgh, if you ask me so. I think
that's why they're kind of probably more committed to seeing
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what Russ can do right now more so than than
Justin Fields. I think if once they go justin Fields,
I think you're going justin fields. I don't know that
you go back to Russell Wilson. So I think that
that's that would be to me, that would be the
reasons why you would stick with Russ is you're giving
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him the first chance to prove that he can carry
this team and this offense can be really, really good.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And plus he must he must have done.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Something in workouts or something q that gave them the
confidence to feel like we need to stick with him
even through you know, injuries, having not played one game
for this team. Yet there's something that happened that's made
them feel that way.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I think it's as simple as the body of work.
I think there's an element of the body of work.
I think there's even just looking at last year, you know,
as much as we've seen improvement from Justin Fields and
something that comes as a byproduct of the Bears finally
putting some pieces around him to help him out, but
at no point have you seen, you know, really anything
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that would be better than what we've seen from Russell
Wilson just last year, which again wasn't good enough for
Denver Right kind of talked yesterday with the stats completion percentage,
that touchdown passes.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yards, all that.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I mean, he obviously didn't even played the last two
games of the season, so two or three games, So
you know, I look at it and say, I think
there's more confidence in Russell Wilson being the guy based
on his body of work, based on everything else he's
done in his career winning a Super Bowl than what.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You have with Justin Fields at this point, who.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Still again still has tremendous subside, still has ability, but
he's never displayed what I think Russell Wilson, who's an
MVP conversation before, has been.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So you know, even if you want to say, well,
those years are far behind him.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That's it's still in him somewhere as a players from
an experienced standpoint, he still has part of that. So
I believe we've got some salt for Russell Wilson. Let's
kind of play this to get more of a sense
of really what he's thinking.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Feeling great, just to be fully in the practice and
involved in doing everything. I mean I've been I've been
involved in doing all the drills and everything in for
the past you know, you know seven eight days have
in many days it has been but to be fully
in there actually with the with the team drills and
everything else, this feels great. Figure ten or desire to
play in the preseason, yeah, always, I always.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Want to play.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
I mean I think anytime you hit the strap on
the pads, it's you know, it's a blessing. I remember,
you know, if it's preseason, if his regular season officers
matters a lot, and my postseason more importantly. So you know,
just to be out with you, with your teammates and
everything else. But you know, the good thing is they
get to take everything in and just learn and just
in that city for the first time.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I can't wait.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
You know, it's going to be amazing being an Actrocraft
stadium and you know, were in the.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Black and Gold.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Where that's Russe Wilson's talking about, you know, really everything
he's kind of endured of the past week or so,
which it lends you to think that, I mean, he's
it doesn't sound like he's really upset or frustrated by
house has all gone down. I'm sure they've been in
communication with him, but it just feels like since day
one he's going to be the guy.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's really until the regular season comes.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That's when we'll get a better sense of, you know,
where Russell Wilson's at, where his team is at, and
really how they feel about him moving forward. I think
the tough thing though, is Arthur Smith comes in as
the offensive coordinator. You'd like to have a little more
time with Russell Wilson and a little more time seeing
him within the system as far as what he could
do well and how he pairs well with the chemistry
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that you've got.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
You know, as far as players in the team, you.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Know, not really having him for a lot of training
camp that if you're not playing him in the preseason,
all those things are hard to determine.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
I just think there's a lot of pressure on this
team to have a good offense, and I, like you said,
it just simply comes down to the body of work
of Russell Wilson. I think it just simply comes down
to the measurement of how well this offense, how well
it plays, how well the play calls are, how productive
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this this offense is that is going there is going
to be tremendous scrutiny on how well this offense performs
and and so I think all those things that you're saying,
it's heightened. You know, it's heightened to a certain degree
because he doesn't get to go into the water and
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it just be you know, a simple Sunday swim. He's
swimming with sharks, and so is justin Fields, and so
is the offensive coordinator. And if all of them are
swimming with sharks, then you know what, there's not going
to be a life raft or any type of saving
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mechanism thrown by Mike Tomlin in this scenario, because he
might need it for himself.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And I think that.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
That is the harsh reality that all of these these
people are facing on the Steelers team. So it's it's
it's going to be very very intense, I'll say it'll
be very intense to see how this all plays out
with with the quarterback's position.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Well, speaking of Mike Taba, well let's hear from Mike
Talbin in regards to the quarterback competition in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Very much is a competition.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
What happens in stadium is weighted heavier than what happens
in a practice setting because it's more game.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Like, naturally looking at it that have you got your oh,
you know, I'll let you guys speculate on that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And that's obviously Mike Taba responding in regards to not
the quarterback competition, but adding a wide receiver and bread
and Ayuk, which it did come out that the Steelers
are still in the mix for getting Brendon Ayuk, So
it feels like.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
This thing is gonna sounded like they had agreed upon it.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Roll.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I think they've probably agreed upon something, the Steelers, or
excuse me, the forty nine ers, maybe waiting to see
if they don't get something better. But you pointed this
out yesterday, and I think this is one of the
biggest questions I have is will the Steelers be able
to give Brendan Ayuk the contract that he's looking for.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
You know, typically Steelers contracts have not come with big
signy for the money.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, they don't throw a lot of cash at players,
So you'd have to think the average annual value or
the you know, guarantees within it would have to be significant.
Otherwise I'd think that the forty nine Ers have a
competitive offer on the table. And if you are Brendon
Ayuk and you're with the team that I think as
an easier path to a Super Bowl. You've been with
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one of the maybe the best play caller in Kyle
Shanahan and brock perty who showcased himself well.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
And ill the familiarity. Why would you not want to stay?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I just I don't know that the brand and Ayuk situation,
we kind of made the case for why he might
stay in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I can see why.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know, the grass always looks greater, and the Steelers
have a great organization. But when I look at, you know,
jumping into a situation where it's it's Russell Wilson for now,
it could be justin field, so that's a little undetermined.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
You feel like some people feel like there might be
some heat.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
On Mike Tomblin. I just I don't know that that's
a scenario you want to jump into, as opposed to
a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Of the stability that you had at least in San
Francisco of the time you've been there.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
It's I think, doesn't it come down to wanting to
be appreciated? Q? I think in a player's mind sometimes
the one thing that matters the most to them is
feeling that that level of appreciation, and you're willing to
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go to places where you appreciate it, and it might
not be a better situation. I personally think that you're
not going into a bad situation because of how well
the organization is ran in Pittsburgh. But with that being said,
there there could I mean, there is uncertainty.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I mean we're being real.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Like you said, there is uncertainty, and that uncertainty is
swirling around the very side of the ball that you
would be going to. And so if you're looking at
how your stability looks right now, I would feel confident
right now, just because the Pittsburgh Steelers have always shown
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a level of restraint as it applies to making any
really really major changes, especially at the head coaching position.
They have shown a level of grace that is higher
than the most athletic organizations show. They've shown patience, and
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and so I would see Pittsburgh as probably a more
attractive place to go to even with the ideas of
understanding that this could this could possibly.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
End you know, the wrong way. Yeah, there's no doubt
it could. Like I said, it's it's just.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Tough to kind of I guess foresee how things are
gonna play on Pittsburgh. And then if you're a player
that's looking to go there and get this new contract.
You might be entering into a little bit of a
state of chaos where the coach could be different, quarterback
could be different, all these things swrolling.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Around to you, and you might be looking back on man,
I wish I would have I would have stayed.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
There is funny that there could be that that feeling.
It could be the I'm leaving remorse. I had a
conversation yesterday. I won't give too many details, but it
was with a uh.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It was with an executive within a professional sports franchise,
and we were talking about, you know, team building and
how you go about building the roster and all these
different things. And one of the activities he said he
does is with like the three or four guys or
the guys, the guys who are going to eat up
the majority of that salary cap. He said, what he
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does is he brings them in and he tells them
to play Jim, and he says, put your gym hat on.
Here's how much cap we have, this is what you want,
this is what your your other superstar teammates are getting.
And then here's what else needs to be for the
rest of the guys, So go figure out how much
each guy should be paid.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Now, this is it's a funny exercise.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And the reason why I bring this up is because
when I was getting my MBA, one of the things
that they would do after group projects is you would
have a total amount of points, and so you had
to give yourself a grade in points and you had
to give the rest of your group points. But what
you could not do is you can not give everyone
the same And outside of that, there really wasn't.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Any rules to how many points you could give.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So let's say, for example, you have you know, five
group members, it has to add up to one hundred points.
So in that case, not everyone could have twenty points
and you have to figure it out and that would
factor into their grade. And it's an interesting activity because
it makes you have to hold yourself accountable, hold others accountable,
but also realize that, I mean, look, there's always so
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much to go around, and you have to allocate the
points in this case appropriately. But when you're talking about
salary cap obviously that the money appropriately. And I think
it's one of those scenarios where you know, I don't
know if John Lynch has done this necessarily with Brendan
a Yuk.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
But it's hard when you get agents involved, because agents kind.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Of throw it about to say, I was just about
to say, if it were me, q, I wouldn't do
the exercise. I declined to do the exercise, I said,
And to me, I'd be like, Okay, here's an exercise
that I want you to do. If I'm in a
position to ask for that type of money, here's what
I ask. You go out and you do my you know,
you go out and do my job. I want let's
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do an exercise where you go out and you do
The hard thing is.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Is that negotiation doesn't work out well when you're negotiating
with John Lynch, who's a you know, a Hall of famer.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
But but that being said that the point is it's
it's not.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
So much an exercise of like, you know, it's trying
to get the player to see that from the perspective
of the general man.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
No, I get it. I get it, and it makes sense.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I just wouldn't want a very I wouldn't want to
engage in that though.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
No, I want to engage you. I understand you'd be
restricted to it.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
But I think when when players open their minds to understand, like, hey,
if you're going to keep this all together, it's not
like it's not like the forty Nineers don't one Brendanne
You you know clearly they do. You hear Kyle Shanahan
talk about them, and they'd like to keep them. It's
just it's hard. It's hard to when you draft the
guy and the guy becomes a star, it's hard to
keep them all together. And so the whole point is
to kind of get people to understand that there have
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to be some considerations. So they might have to leave
a little bit of money on the table. Yeah, and
if they do that, they might have a better shot
of keeping things together and maybe going winning Super Bowls
and having more success. And if not, you know, so
be it. That's their personal decision. But at least it
provides that perspective for the team's perspective. So, not sure
it's for an exercise here with what's happening between Brendan Ayuk,
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the forty nine Ers, the Steelers, and the Steelers quarterback situation,
but I thought kind of something interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Nonetheless, Yeah, so it is interesting.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
It would be an interesting exercise and could lead to
an interesting solution, I guess. But I think guys are
still going to look at what the market is is
yielding and how they compare to that and what that
looks like and leave leave those those exercises and leave
those conclusions to the people who get paid the money
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to do it, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And that's but it's it's.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Always you got to always weigh it out, like you said, right,
it could always work out better for you, and then
to take less you could get more.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Sometimes less is more, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
But in this specific case, the players did actually do
the exercise and they did kind of come to an understanding. Now,
granted there's some other things that play a role will
allow them to take a little bit less but still
make maybe about the same. I won't get into specifics
to tell what team that was, but that being said,
it was really interesting to hear the perspective of a
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you know, an executive talking about that that exercise.
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Speaker 2 (21:11):
I'm gonna give Lee a second to look this up
because I don't have the notes right in front of me.
In regards to the Jim Harbaugh punishment that was laid
down yesterday, we've talked about this at length. However, we
keep each as each day passes by this week, we
keep getting a little bit more, a little bit more,
a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
The NCAA is now handed down their punishment to Jim Harbaugh.
And again, these are four offenses that were committed last season.
In regards to the Connor Stallions saga or controversy where
he was advanced scouting opponents, which is illegal.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
You can't advance scout with video footage, which is what
he's being accused of. I will remind people you are
in game allowed to steal signals, steal signs. That's one
of the reasons that's prompted the NCAA to adopt the
coach the quarterback, where now both the offense and defense
will have a designated player with the radio system very
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similar to what we see in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
So that should eliminate all of the sign stealing that's
been going on. And it wasn't just.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Michigan, however, Michigan got caught and now we've we've kind
of seen some of the punishment from that.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Lee.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Do you have the exact punishment that was strucking down
on Jim Harbaugh, who was now the head coach of
the Los Angeles Chargers. Yes, this is quote. The punishment.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Harball is sanctioned with a four year what is called
a show cause order. The NCAAA said during the show
cause huh show show no, yeah, yeah, during this show
cause the best, Harball will be barred from all athletically
related activities, including team travel, practice, video study, recruiting, and
team meetings at any NCAAA school that employed him.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Right for uh, that's that's more of the difficulty, right.
If he came back to college football, this would be
a concern, but he's got his national championship. He's now
coaching the Chargers, trying to win a Super Bowl. I
don't think he's going to be back anytime soon.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
So probably can come back, he just can't come back
to like any type of official capacity.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
And if he is hired during this four years, he
will be suspended for one hundred percent of the first
season of employment.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, so that's that's more of the concern there. Thank
you for the note there, Lee, thank you for looking
that up. I'm glad the Wi FI is working again
in the studio. Here's here's the issue with all of this.
So there's a lot of fans out there of some
of the rivals of Michigan that are celebrating this is
there Ah got you moment. And I've been at him
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and telling people this has been going on to other
schools too.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Connor Stallions was caught with his hand in the cookie jar,
and they're, you know, now, punishing Michigan for this. In
most cases, the NCAA is always reactive instead of proactive
with these matters, and they try to create punishment that
really never hurts the individuals during the period of time
in which whatever cheating is going on, it only.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Hurts the future players, the future coaches.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But one narrative that has come out from all this
LeVar is that you know, Michigan had improved so much
when Connor Stallions was there was all about Connor Stallions
And I just want to take people through the period
of time coming out of COVID where you know, Michigan
didn't play Ohio State, they had somewhat of a whole
hum year.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
That was an interesting year I think for a lot
of people.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Who were around college sports because you know, for example,
we were going out on location and there's no fans,
and it was the oddest time of being out broadcasting
live from a destination where you've got cardboard cutouts in
the stands, right, I mean, it's just the weirdest type
of atmosphere you could imagine. And you know, we talked
to coaching staffs about the challenge of getting the players
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up because you know, whether or not people want to
admit it, like the the fan, the twelfth man a
lot of cases plays a factor, even helping to give
you a little extra juice that maybe creating that home
field advantage but either way, it creates the difficulty that
creates that home field advantage and or advantage. And you know,
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that year was an interesting year because what never gets
talked about enough is the staff changes that Jim Harball
went through in getting to where they became a team
that was a national title contender.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
That was one element of it. The other element of
it is JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I don't think he gets his due as a college
quarterback for the job that he did during his time there.
But he's I want to go back to, well he
is now and that's what I'll kind of get to.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
But I'm saying he's dealing in practice right now from
all reports I've seen on him.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
So yeah, the fact that when you get drafted in
the first round, I think that goes to show you, like,
this is how the NFL feels about him as far
as his his leadership skills, all those and tools and
intangibles they're looking for. So clearly there was more to
it than just hey, it's Conter Stallion's it's this advantage
they've got from all of this. I go back and
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look at the staff changes he made, for example, back
in twenty twenty one, they bring in Mike McDonald. Mike McDonald,
who ends up being their defensive coordinator, does an unbelievable
job during his time There's so much so that he
ends up getting hired as the Baltimore Ravens defensive.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Coordinator after that and then now hired as the head
coach Donald for the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So Mike McDonald who then leads to Jesse Miner that
leads to again this defensive performance that becomes up there
with the top in college football. The other thing is
he moved on from Josh Gaddis, Josh Gaddis who I
felt like at times was holding back the Michigan offense,
and he brought in shrown More in that twenty twenty
one offseason. Shn Moore, who eventually now becomes the head coach,
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but was a co offensive coordinator to begin with, and
during his time there became a co offensive coordinate with
Matt Weiss, and they've you know, you've seen that, you know,
remarkable improvement, but also Jaj McCarthy coming along as well
and being able to lead them to an essence almost
an undefeated record with the exception of one game.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
And so as much as you want to make it
about the Conter Stallion saga. The truth in the.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Reality of it is it doesn't have really anything to
do with that one thing. I mean, as we talked
about before with Stallions, he wasn't a part of this
program at all in the second half of last year
where they played their most important games versus Penn State,
versus Ohio State into the College Football Playoff to win
a national championship.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
That had nothing to do with Connor Stallions.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So I'm just tired of this false narrative that's put
out there about Michigan. And I'm like surprised I'm defending
Michigan in this case, but it just it's I'm so
tired of hearing it. It's like, look, take the ls folks,
and if you think your team wasn't doing something, whether
it's through recruiting or whether it's through you know, scouting
and all this stuff, you're probably wrong. Everyone's trying to
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bend the rules in some way. That's just the life
in college football right now. It is a very very
crazy world, the wild wide West that we're all living in.
I don't know how you see it, but I had
to get that off my chest because I'm so tired
of hearing it and seeing it on social media and
all these different bloggers and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
I'm glad you got it off of your chest. I'm
not that passionate about it. I will say it is
intriguing to me to think that you could come to
the conclusion that anyone could come to the conclusion that
if you watched this Michigan team play, that the sign
stealing was the reason why they had a competitive advantage.
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I mean, if you're trying to say, Okay, they were
in a position to put a personnel grouping out there
to give them an unfair advantage, I mean, is that
based off of stealing a sign, or is that the
people that are above looking down and supposed to have
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the personnel groupings that are coming into the game and
different things like that, how they're playing. Listen, I watched
in person the dismantling of one of the best defenses
in college football last year, and it was a run.
They ran the ball and we could not Penn State
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could not stop the run. Just couldn't stop the run.
I can't attribute success and let people can say, well,
that was post that was post Connor Stallions, Nscallions.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
You know that was supposed to him. I don't care.
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
If you look at that Michigan team and the run
that they went on, it was run heavy and it
was play defense. They had guys like Aiden Hutchinson on
their teams. They had what was shot Berry was it
during that time?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Perry Like.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
They've had some pretty phenomenal football players come off of that.
They have a phenomenal player number two. That where's Charles's
number right now? They have some phenomenal players on the
defense side of the ball, Johnson, Will Johnson. They've had
some amazing Quorum is an amazing running back. The running
back that backed him up, he's an amazing running back.
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Their offensive line they short it up through the portal.
It was just, if you're going to look at it
from a critical standpoint, they had a superior team.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Q they have had a superior team. And I think
there's a.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Huge correlation between quarterbacks and I know some people who
are purist in college football hate hearing the comparison of
projecting what they'll be at the NFL level. But if
you have a quarterback who is either a first round
talent or can play at the NFL level, he's one
of the best of college football. I think we can
agree upon that. And if you look at the run,
especially the recent run for Alabama, and you go through
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the Bryce Young who won a Heisman Trophy, was a
first round pick, number one overall pick. You know, you
go to the mac Jones, the tool tongue of Bila
and even Jalen hurtsho was there for a period.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Of time, ends up being a high second round pick.
But I think you get my point, so pure your talent,
and even.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
McElroy who got drafted, Aji mcchaerron who got drafted, Like
you go through the years of Bama's success, there's a
correlation between the most important position in college sports in
my opinion, the quarterback, and success. So let me ask
you this, When was the last time, okay, the last
time a quarterback who was recruited to Michigan got drafted.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Before JJ McCarthy. That's a good one. Probably. Ooh, was
it the kid that didn't tie his shoes? No?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
No, I think you're talking about Alan Bowman, who just
now I think he's still actually playing. He's still a
quarterback for Oklahoma State. But it was Chad Henny in
two thousand and eight. That is the last quarterback they
have had that was recruited there and drafted, and that
he was a second round pick. Now people were going
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to say, well, what about Jake Rudok in twenty sixteen.
Jake Rudock wasn't recruited in Michigan. He transferred there. He
was originally an Iowa quarterback and then he eventually came
for his final season and got drafted in the sixth
round by the Detroit Lions. But I have always said
this Michigan and their return to glory was going to
have everything to do about finally getting a talented quarterback.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
The second they got J. J.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
McCarthy, who finished his high school ball at IMG Academy
and is now a first round pick, was going to
give them a shot at winning a national championship, combined
with the other pieces that they have.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
But that, to me, I don't think he had to
win that job. And he had to win that job.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Somebody was who was the other guy that was they
were looking at kind of like it could go either
way for a moment there.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
It wasn't just.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
McCarthy had the job and came in as this like
you know, the franchise guy. He had to win that
job out. I can't remember. I can't recall. The other quarterback, Alan.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Bowman, who's now at Oklahoma State, did transfer in from
Texas Tech.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
He was one of the other quarterbacks. They had a
bunch of quarterbacks on their roster. But to your point,
he had to win a quarterback competition.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
He had to win it. Yeah, he ended up being
the guy. But to the greater point is just stop
with this whole thing. It was just Connor Stallions. It
wasn't They had a first round quote drafted quarterback. They
had thirteen players drafted. They did a good job recruiting
and developing. They made staff changes that ended up leading
to Mike McDonald's now a head coach in the NFL.
Other coaches who Harbaugh took along with them to the
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NFL Schroan Moore who's become now a head coach.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
It didn't have just to do with Connor Stallions.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
This was a university that under Jim Harbaugh kind of
found its way after COVID of what they needed to
do in order to win. And so as much as
we want to sit there and use the punishment that's
thrown down on Jim Horribaugh as a reason for you know,
this is the only reason they want anask champions.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
It's just not true. It's just not true.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
You know, they were able to build this thing up
to really put all their chips in that that this
past season and when they needed to the most, without
their head coach, without the help of Connor Stallions, they
showed up the biggest and the biggest games. So please
do stop with what the stupid conversation around it only
being about Connor Stallions.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
All right, I want to do my stories. I don't
want to talk about Chris down. I don't want Brady
and to passive aggressively attack each other over Chris Brown's past.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Oh my gosh. I want to get to your stories
is what I want to do.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
All right?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Are you ready? Yes?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I can be supported musically, remember.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Lee, and that is a hint for play some music.
The Olympics have.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Had a great deal of puzzo, which is a Greek
word for penis, and they've had erections like Levar's blue choo.
You saw that right, The diver, yes, you thought. Oh
come on, Brady, you were there. He was pointing at you.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
The poop river.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You saw that, right, Brady.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah, we saw the set. I walked walk by it often.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Saw Javert's body bobbing around. Uh. You got the volleyball,
the bulbo se volleyball booties that everybody's excited about, right,
especially Espanya. You got the pole vault Dong incident, which
is still crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Tang.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
You got records and everything, and a new story has emerged.
And I didn't hear you guys talk about it when
you were hmming and hawing about Stefan Diggs, and I
didn't hear Eddie talk about it. In his very informative update,
an Australian Olympian field hockey player by the name of
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Tom Craig got jacked after a team function in Paris
for trying to buy one measlely Gramma cocaine. Oh wow, man,
he got busted. There was a team party there, you go,
good job. There was a team party.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
This is how we knew around different direction there.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
One minute after the team party, he tried to buy
a gramma cocaine. Then he got snatched up one gram,
which is the cocaine equivalent, I believe, though it's been
a few decades. The cocaine equivalent of like a dime
bag of weed from the movies in the eighties. Now
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you just go to the store to buy weed and
the guy's like, this one's a little speedy. It's got
a bit of an aftertaste. It's like we didn't used
to be like he used to smoke whatever the guy had,
you know, But anyway, I digress. Would you like to
hear the apology from Tom Craig, Guys.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I would love you. He's an Australian.
Speaker 8 (37:26):
I'd first like to apologize for what has occurred in
the last twenty four hours. Oh, I've made a terrible mistake. Oh,
I take full responsibility for my actions. I've embarrassed you
all and I'm truly sorry.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I feel like I was listening to a Jason Statha movie,
I'm the Beekeeper. Dang.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
The field hockey team lost to the Dutch in the quarterfinals.
They had a final Paris party and Tom Craig went
straight for the yak when the party got out.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
He wasn't going no charges.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yet it wasn't an undercover cop like entrapment, but a
busted cocaine transaction.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
So he was so.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Nonchalant.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
So did the arrest Did he get caught in the
act of trying to purchase it?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
They my French friend, and then you know, the cop
ran up and or maybe he was trying to hide
it down under you know.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Taqista. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
All right, next story, Men's four hundred. I did hear
Eddie mentioned this? You guys saw the four hundred. I
talked about it now seeing the show man Quincy Hall
one of the greatest comebacks ever. Man more gold in
his mouth than Paul Wall if we're going to talk
about screw music. I have never seen a sprinter with
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that much gold in his mouth. And I was Obviously
the race was inspiring. The four hundred is always an
inspiring race. And it was so weird because coming around
to three hundred meters where that's where the piano gets
on your back or whatever they always say.
Speaker 9 (39:22):
Boom boom boom, very nice boom boom. He looked like
he was about to like pass out. Yeah, it was
like fifth or sixth place, Yeah, and then he found it.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I don't know what it was, but I looked it
up though, because I wondered how much mouth gold you
get from being from where that guy's from. There's a
lot of gold. And I have a grail myself, Do
you really? I bought grills for my very first radio show.
I bought grills for everybody. So if this was my
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first radio show, which is not, Lorena and Lee and
you and Brady.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
All have grills, I've always wanted one.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yep, kind of hurts.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Sean Taylor used to wear a grill like the Wu
Tang client fans.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
My grill had two two diamond peas in the front,
two teeth, so.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
You knew how to roll your lip up.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
If I had ever gotten a grill and put it
in my mouth and showed my dad shopper, she would
have not let your teeth wrap out of me.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, you never know. Good for him When you see
it up close, it's so impressive. Sometimes it stops you
in your tracks, stand not amazed. Interesting anyway, this isn't
my first radio show, and I'm forty seven years old,
so nobody has a grill. But I still have mine.
I'll take a picture, Brady, and I think it still
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fits on my jagged ass mouth. But this guy, Quincy
Hall I found out is from Kansas City, hmm. And
South Carolina guy. And how about this high school wrestler
I out that, Yeah, and his teeth were so teethed.
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
So anyway, congratulations. He was grilled and he was grilling
and chilling. He really was.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Okay, okay, okay, Now I have two college football stories.
You think we have time? Yeah, yes, I'd like to
mention a uniform alert, the sweet UNI alert. Have you
guys seen this uniform? I know you don't care because
you're Big Ten elites and you don't look down to
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the bottom half of the Big Ten with any kind
of real admiration or love. But Illinois, which is the
cradle of college football, by the way, will wear the
greatest throwback uniforms, the greatest alternate uniform I have ever
seen in my life on October over nineteenth against the
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Michigan Wolverines and show.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Cause more.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Right, Yes, these are the greatest uniforms I've ever seen
anybody put on. You know, they modeled it on their
Twitter or whatever. I saw it last night. Illinois in
the twenties was the home of one of the most
innovative football coaches that ever lived, a guy named Coach Zupkey,
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who created, I mean so many things you can't even
mention them. The kickoff, the linebacker position, the flea flicker
is hurt by these gray uniforms. The huddle.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
No that I no, they're not way.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I will say this the only thing because because Notre
Dame did something with the helmet similar to what they're
trying to do when they make it look like an
old leather helmet. The only thing I'll say is that
just doesn't quite capture what that was back then. Bite
your tongue was I'm just saying that the uniforms dove.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Illinois in the twenties was the home of Red Grange.
Red Grange is college football's first star, and he's really
pro football's first star. Saved Jim Thorpe and Red Grange
was a working man's hero and caught the attention of
the country, and that was really the first time that
the country loved football. We all have Red Grange to
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thank for the gross, hulking, pulsating money grab that college
football is now that all of us have benefited from. Anyway.
They made the helmet look leather. Brady doesn't like it,
and now I hate Brady, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Suck. I mean, it does look leather in the twenties.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
That's what the UNI looked like.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
That's what it looked like.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
They have Red Grange's uniform inside the building there at Illinois.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
In and they don't get their hits kicked in with them.
Nice throwback uniform.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Well remember this, LeVar. This is the hundredth anniversary. This
game will be the hundredth anniversary of Red Grange's six
touchdown game Dog versus the Wolverine.
Speaker 10 (44:13):
Mod Dog the Ghost of Dick Buckets. Red Grange will
win that game. Oh, I ugged him. I hugged him
once there when I was in Champagne and was like
hugging a tree.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Dick Buckets is the greatest.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Anyway, this is the greatest uniform I've ever seen. And
if it's not cool enough for you big ten bullies,
then I'm sorry. I think the uniform is cool, as
I'll continue to state. The helmet it just doesn't quite do.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
It for me.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
I think they're hideous uniforms. It will be as ugly
as the loss they take and wearing. I hope they
changed their minds.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Well.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I'm glad that I was able to share with you
guys something that means something to me and have to
mierate on him
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arrington, Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on
Box four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Every morning this week we've been giving updates on the Olympics.
This this one will be a little bit quicker. I
will ask you this. Did you have a chance to
watch the four hundred meters yesterday?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
No? Okay, I did not. I went to the last yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
You and everyone else who did not watch it, go
back and watch our man, Quincy Hall from the United
States run. What I will literally throw out there is
one of the greatest comebacks in the history of sports.
This dude was like like sixth place with about one
hundred meters to go, probably fourth place with about thirty
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meters to go, and he ran as hard as humanly
possible to go win that gold medal for the United States.
It was.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It was things the foreigner meters.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It was one of the coolest things I have ever
seen as far as a comeback, at least in terms
of track. The anyboney who's run track, who's run foreign meters,
they know how painful that event is. It is an
all out run for foreigner meters and you are hurting
by the end of it, and he looked like he
was in pain, grinded through it all the grit and
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determination to win the gold for the United States. So
that one, for sure, at least to me, stood out
Quincy all the old ones, Quincy Hall, Yep, you will
see it at some point. But the highlight was pretty special,
pretty crazy. And by the way, the United States is
way ahead when it comes to total medals.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I believe at ninety four if I've got that correct.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I think Lee, you've helped compile some of these numbers,
which could be a little suspect considering it. This is
Thursday morning, which means you had delivery Wednesday, yesterday, Lee,
So I'm not sure those numbers are quite accurate.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, they at some point they were accurate. At one
point these numbers were accurate.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Is this before after.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Time traveling?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
At they were accurate as of sometime last night, probably
four hours ago time traveling.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
How was delivery Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Delivery Wednesday was amazing. In fact, we were watching the
four hundred meter he Quincy was great. I was watching him,
was like, there's no way this guy's a real sprinter.
It looked like he was spassing out. He was trying
so hard it looked like he had lost his uh
you know uh framework, But I mean it was it
was amazing his form, thank you, his form. The form
looked weird.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
All of everyone's form was done at that point and
they were just trying their best to get there first.
What this point it was was Michael Norman, who I
think it set the world record at one point, maybe
in qualifying, but he had nothing left in the tank.
So anyway, it was unbelievable race. That one stood out
to me. That was That's one of the all time
great comebacks I've ever seen in any work. I mean
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I literally sent it to my dad. We were talking
about it, just how at one hundred meters You're like,
there's no way, there's no chance this guy's gonna.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Be able to come by.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
He was grunting it out. Yeah, I mean he grinted
it out. Painful, but nonetheless always always cool and fun.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Like I said, as long as we've got the Olympics
to talk about, to highlight some of the athletes and
all that good stuff. But training camp is underway LeVar
and there's a lot, a lot coming out for the
Pittsburgh Steelers, in particular the fact that we heard that
Russell Wilson, who has been dealing with a calf injury,
is still slated as the starter for the Steelers, even
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though he hasn't been able to practice quite as much.
He wants to play in the preseason, but Mike Tomblins
said no, Russell Wilson will be sitting for the preseason
first game and Justin Fields will get to start. Do
you feel like this kind of opens the door for
maybe Justin Fields to show out and put more pressure
on Walssell Wilson it or even maybe change Mike Toblins mind,
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because it feels like since Russell Wilson signed there got
there first, they've been pretty oudamant that he's the guy
into the first pole position, and he will be the
guy that kind of start.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
The season to be the guy at least with that
first shot.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I think it will give him a shorter leash to
walk on if Justin Field shows that his integration into
their offense is really good, is smooth during preseason.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I mean, if you got to think about.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
The biggest issue that you've seen coming from the Pittsburgh Steelers,
has been their offense.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
All right.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
That's what's been the reason why they've been much maligned
is because of how how their offense has really underperformed,
and more specifically, how their quarterbacks have underperformed. I mean,
they just pretty much let their draft pick go like
we're done, We're done here, and so I think justin Fields,
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I think he can really make it an interesting and
interesting play if he plays well. But I don't think
that he plays I kind of don't want to say that.
I don't. I don't know. I'm conflicted because I think
if he plays tremendously well in preseason, he probably should.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
He probably should.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Get an opportunity to start, because there's no reason to
say we're married to Russell Wilson other than the fact
that you know what Russe's resume is.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
He's a veteran.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
He probably came in there and probably wild and wooed
everyone that was around him. And they feel like this
is a now ur never moment for for this this
this Pittsburgh team. I think this is an all in
year for Pittsburgh, if you ask me so. I think
that's why they're kind of probably more committed to seeing
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what Russ can do right now more so than than
Justin Fields. I think if once they go justin Fields,
I think you're going justin fields. I don't know that
you go back to Russell Wilson. So I think that
that's that would be to me, that would be the
reasons why you would stick with Russ is you're giving
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him the first chance to prove that he can carry
this team and this offense can be really, really good.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And plus he must he must have done.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Something in workouts or something q that gave them the
confidence to feel like we need to stick with him
even through you know, injuries, having not played one game
for this team. Yet there's something that happened that's made
them feel that way.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I think it's as simple as the body of work.
I think there's an element of the body of work.
I think there's even just looking at last year, you know,
as much as we've seen improvement from Justin Fields and
something that comes as a byproduct of the Bears finally
putting some pieces around him to help him out, but
at no point have you seen, you know, really anything
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that would be better than what we've seen from Russell
Wilson just last year, which again wasn't good enough for
Denver Right kind of talked yesterday with the stats completion percentage,
that touchdown passes.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yards, all that.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I mean, he obviously didn't even played the last two
games of the season, so two or three games, So
you know, I look at it and say, I think
there's more confidence in Russell Wilson being the guy based
on his body of work, based on everything else he's
done in his career winning a Super Bowl than what.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You have with Justin Fields at this point, who.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Still again still has tremendous subside, still has ability, but
he's never displayed what I think Russell Wilson, who's an
MVP conversation before, has been.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So you know, even if you want to say, well,
those years are far behind him.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That's it's still in him somewhere as a players from
an experienced standpoint, he still has part of that. So
I believe we've got some salt for Russell Wilson. Let's
kind of play this to get more of a sense
of really what he's thinking.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Feeling great, just to be fully in the practice and
involved in doing everything. I mean I've been I've been
involved in doing all the drills and everything in for
the past you know, you know seven eight days have
in many days it has been but to be fully
in there actually with the with the team drills and
everything else, this feels great. Figure ten or desire to
play in the preseason, yeah, always, I always.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Want to play.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
I mean I think anytime you hit the strap on
the pads, it's you know, it's a blessing. I remember,
you know, if it's preseason, if his regular season officers
matters a lot, and my postseason more importantly. So you know,
just to be out with you, with your teammates and
everything else. But you know, the good thing is they
get to take everything in and just learn and just
in that city for the first time.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I can't wait.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
You know, it's going to be amazing being an Actrocraft
stadium and you know, were in the.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Black and Gold.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Where that's Russe Wilson's talking about, you know, really everything
he's kind of endured of the past week or so,
which it lends you to think that, I mean, he's
it doesn't sound like he's really upset or frustrated by
house has all gone down. I'm sure they've been in
communication with him, but it just feels like since day
one he's going to be the guy.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's really until the regular season comes.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That's when we'll get a better sense of, you know,
where Russell Wilson's at, where his team is at, and
really how they feel about him moving forward. I think
the tough thing though, is Arthur Smith comes in as
the offensive coordinator. You'd like to have a little more
time with Russell Wilson and a little more time seeing
him within the system as far as what he could
do well and how he pairs well with the chemistry
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that you've got.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
You know, as far as players in the team, you.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Know, not really having him for a lot of training
camp that if you're not playing him in the preseason,
all those things are hard to determine.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
I just think there's a lot of pressure on this
team to have a good offense, and I, like you said,
it just simply comes down to the body of work
of Russell Wilson. I think it just simply comes down
to the measurement of how well this offense, how well
it plays, how well the play calls are, how productive
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this this offense is that is going there is going
to be tremendous scrutiny on how well this offense performs
and and so I think all those things that you're saying,
it's heightened. You know, it's heightened to a certain degree
because he doesn't get to go into the water and
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it just be you know, a simple Sunday swim. He's
swimming with sharks, and so is justin Fields, and so
is the offensive coordinator. And if all of them are
swimming with sharks, then you know what, there's not going
to be a life raft or any type of saving
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mechanism thrown by Mike Tomlin in this scenario, because he
might need it for himself.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And I think that.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
That is the harsh reality that all of these these
people are facing on the Steelers team. So it's it's
it's going to be very very intense, I'll say it'll
be very intense to see how this all plays out
with with the quarterback's position.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Well, speaking of Mike Taba, well let's hear from Mike
Talbin in regards to the quarterback competition in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Very much is a competition.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
What happens in stadium is weighted heavier than what happens
in a practice setting because it's more game.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Like, naturally looking at it that have you got your oh,
you know, I'll let you guys speculate on that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And that's obviously Mike Taba responding in regards to not
the quarterback competition, but adding a wide receiver and bread
and Ayuk, which it did come out that the Steelers
are still in the mix for getting Brendon Ayuk, So
it feels like.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
This thing is gonna sounded like they had agreed upon it.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Roll.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I think they've probably agreed upon something, the Steelers, or
excuse me, the forty nine ers, maybe waiting to see
if they don't get something better. But you pointed this
out yesterday, and I think this is one of the
biggest questions I have is will the Steelers be able
to give Brendan Ayuk the contract that he's looking for.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
You know, typically Steelers contracts have not come with big
signy for the money.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, they don't throw a lot of cash at players,
So you'd have to think the average annual value or
the you know, guarantees within it would have to be significant.
Otherwise I'd think that the forty nine Ers have a
competitive offer on the table. And if you are Brendon
Ayuk and you're with the team that I think as
an easier path to a Super Bowl. You've been with
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one of the maybe the best play caller in Kyle
Shanahan and brock perty who showcased himself well.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
And ill the familiarity. Why would you not want to stay?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I just I don't know that the brand and Ayuk situation,
we kind of made the case for why he might
stay in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I can see why.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know, the grass always looks greater, and the Steelers
have a great organization. But when I look at, you know,
jumping into a situation where it's it's Russell Wilson for now,
it could be justin field, so that's a little undetermined.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
You feel like some people feel like there might be
some heat.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
On Mike Tomblin. I just I don't know that that's
a scenario you want to jump into, as opposed to
a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Of the stability that you had at least in San
Francisco of the time you've been there.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
It's I think, doesn't it come down to wanting to
be appreciated? Q? I think in a player's mind sometimes
the one thing that matters the most to them is
feeling that that level of appreciation, and you're willing to
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go to places where you appreciate it, and it might
not be a better situation. I personally think that you're
not going into a bad situation because of how well
the organization is ran in Pittsburgh. But with that being said,
there there could I mean, there is uncertainty.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I mean we're being real.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Like you said, there is uncertainty, and that uncertainty is
swirling around the very side of the ball that you
would be going to. And so if you're looking at
how your stability looks right now, I would feel confident
right now, just because the Pittsburgh Steelers have always shown
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a level of restraint as it applies to making any
really really major changes, especially at the head coaching position.
They have shown a level of grace that is higher
than the most athletic organizations show. They've shown patience, and
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and so I would see Pittsburgh as probably a more
attractive place to go to even with the ideas of
understanding that this could this could possibly.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
End you know, the wrong way. Yeah, there's no doubt
it could. Like I said, it's it's just.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Tough to kind of I guess foresee how things are
gonna play on Pittsburgh. And then if you're a player
that's looking to go there and get this new contract.
You might be entering into a little bit of a
state of chaos where the coach could be different, quarterback
could be different, all these things swrolling.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Around to you, and you might be looking back on man,
I wish I would have I would have stayed.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
There is funny that there could be that that feeling.
It could be the I'm leaving remorse. I had a
conversation yesterday. I won't give too many details, but it
was with a uh.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It was with an executive within a professional sports franchise,
and we were talking about, you know, team building and
how you go about building the roster and all these
different things. And one of the activities he said he
does is with like the three or four guys or
the guys, the guys who are going to eat up
the majority of that salary cap. He said, what he
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does is he brings them in and he tells them
to play Jim, and he says, put your gym hat on.
Here's how much cap we have, this is what you want,
this is what your your other superstar teammates are getting.
And then here's what else needs to be for the
rest of the guys, So go figure out how much
each guy should be paid.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Now, this is it's a funny exercise.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And the reason why I bring this up is because
when I was getting my MBA, one of the things
that they would do after group projects is you would
have a total amount of points, and so you had
to give yourself a grade in points and you had
to give the rest of your group points. But what
you could not do is you can not give everyone
the same And outside of that, there really wasn't.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Any rules to how many points you could give.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So let's say, for example, you have you know, five
group members, it has to add up to one hundred points.
So in that case, not everyone could have twenty points
and you have to figure it out and that would
factor into their grade. And it's an interesting activity because
it makes you have to hold yourself accountable, hold others accountable,
but also realize that, I mean, look, there's always so
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much to go around, and you have to allocate the
points in this case appropriately. But when you're talking about
salary cap obviously that the money appropriately. And I think
it's one of those scenarios where you know, I don't
know if John Lynch has done this necessarily with Brendan
a Yuk.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
But it's hard when you get agents involved, because agents kind.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Of throw it about to say, I was just about
to say, if it were me, q, I wouldn't do
the exercise. I declined to do the exercise, I said,
And to me, I'd be like, Okay, here's an exercise
that I want you to do. If I'm in a
position to ask for that type of money, here's what
I ask. You go out and you do my you know,
you go out and do my job. I want let's
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do an exercise where you go out and you do
The hard thing is.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Is that negotiation doesn't work out well when you're negotiating
with John Lynch, who's a you know, a Hall of famer.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
But but that being said that the point is it's
it's not.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
So much an exercise of like, you know, it's trying
to get the player to see that from the perspective
of the general man.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
No, I get it. I get it, and it makes sense.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I just wouldn't want a very I wouldn't want to
engage in that though.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
No, I want to engage you. I understand you'd be
restricted to it.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
But I think when when players open their minds to understand, like, hey,
if you're going to keep this all together, it's not
like it's not like the forty Nineers don't one Brendanne
You you know clearly they do. You hear Kyle Shanahan
talk about them, and they'd like to keep them. It's
just it's hard. It's hard to when you draft the
guy and the guy becomes a star, it's hard to
keep them all together. And so the whole point is
to kind of get people to understand that there have
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to be some considerations. So they might have to leave
a little bit of money on the table. Yeah, and
if they do that, they might have a better shot
of keeping things together and maybe going winning Super Bowls
and having more success. And if not, you know, so
be it. That's their personal decision. But at least it
provides that perspective for the team's perspective. So, not sure
it's for an exercise here with what's happening between Brendan Ayuk,
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the forty nine Ers, the Steelers, and the Steelers quarterback situation,
but I thought kind of something interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Nonetheless, Yeah, so it is interesting.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
It would be an interesting exercise and could lead to
an interesting solution, I guess. But I think guys are
still going to look at what the market is is
yielding and how they compare to that and what that
looks like and leave leave those those exercises and leave
those conclusions to the people who get paid the money
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to do it, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And that's but it's it's.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Always you got to always weigh it out, like you said, right,
it could always work out better for you, and then
to take less you could get more.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Sometimes less is more, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
But in this specific case, the players did actually do
the exercise and they did kind of come to an understanding. Now,
granted there's some other things that play a role will
allow them to take a little bit less but still
make maybe about the same. I won't get into specifics
to tell what team that was, but that being said,
it was really interesting to hear the perspective of a
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you know, an executive talking about that that exercise.
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Speaker 2 (21:11):
I'm gonna give Lee a second to look this up
because I don't have the notes right in front of me.
In regards to the Jim Harbaugh punishment that was laid
down yesterday, we've talked about this at length. However, we
keep each as each day passes by this week, we
keep getting a little bit more, a little bit more,
a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
The NCAA is now handed down their punishment to Jim Harbaugh.
And again, these are four offenses that were committed last season.
In regards to the Connor Stallions saga or controversy where
he was advanced scouting opponents, which is illegal.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
You can't advance scout with video footage, which is what
he's being accused of. I will remind people you are
in game allowed to steal signals, steal signs. That's one
of the reasons that's prompted the NCAA to adopt the
coach the quarterback, where now both the offense and defense
will have a designated player with the radio system very
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similar to what we see in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
So that should eliminate all of the sign stealing that's
been going on. And it wasn't just.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Michigan, however, Michigan got caught and now we've we've kind
of seen some of the punishment from that.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Lee.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Do you have the exact punishment that was strucking down
on Jim Harbaugh, who was now the head coach of
the Los Angeles Chargers. Yes, this is quote. The punishment.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Harball is sanctioned with a four year what is called
a show cause order. The NCAAA said during the show
cause huh show show no, yeah, yeah, during this show
cause the best, Harball will be barred from all athletically
related activities, including team travel, practice, video study, recruiting, and
team meetings at any NCAAA school that employed him.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Right for uh, that's that's more of the difficulty, right.
If he came back to college football, this would be
a concern, but he's got his national championship. He's now
coaching the Chargers, trying to win a Super Bowl. I
don't think he's going to be back anytime soon.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
So probably can come back, he just can't come back
to like any type of official capacity.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
And if he is hired during this four years, he
will be suspended for one hundred percent of the first
season of employment.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, so that's that's more of the concern there. Thank
you for the note there, Lee, thank you for looking
that up. I'm glad the Wi FI is working again
in the studio. Here's here's the issue with all of this.
So there's a lot of fans out there of some
of the rivals of Michigan that are celebrating this is
there Ah got you moment. And I've been at him
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and telling people this has been going on to other
schools too.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Connor Stallions was caught with his hand in the cookie jar,
and they're, you know, now, punishing Michigan for this. In
most cases, the NCAA is always reactive instead of proactive
with these matters, and they try to create punishment that
really never hurts the individuals during the period of time
in which whatever cheating is going on, it only.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Hurts the future players, the future coaches.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But one narrative that has come out from all this
LeVar is that you know, Michigan had improved so much
when Connor Stallions was there was all about Connor Stallions
And I just want to take people through the period
of time coming out of COVID where you know, Michigan
didn't play Ohio State, they had somewhat of a whole
hum year.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
That was an interesting year I think for a lot
of people.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Who were around college sports because you know, for example,
we were going out on location and there's no fans,
and it was the oddest time of being out broadcasting
live from a destination where you've got cardboard cutouts in
the stands, right, I mean, it's just the weirdest type
of atmosphere you could imagine. And you know, we talked
to coaching staffs about the challenge of getting the players
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up because you know, whether or not people want to
admit it, like the the fan, the twelfth man a
lot of cases plays a factor, even helping to give
you a little extra juice that maybe creating that home
field advantage but either way, it creates the difficulty that
creates that home field advantage and or advantage. And you know,
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that year was an interesting year because what never gets
talked about enough is the staff changes that Jim Harball
went through in getting to where they became a team
that was a national title contender.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
That was one element of it. The other element of
it is JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I don't think he gets his due as a college
quarterback for the job that he did during his time there.
But he's I want to go back to, well he
is now and that's what I'll kind of get to.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
But I'm saying he's dealing in practice right now from
all reports I've seen on him.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
So yeah, the fact that when you get drafted in
the first round, I think that goes to show you, like,
this is how the NFL feels about him as far
as his his leadership skills, all those and tools and
intangibles they're looking for. So clearly there was more to
it than just hey, it's Conter Stallion's it's this advantage
they've got from all of this. I go back and
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look at the staff changes he made, for example, back
in twenty twenty one, they bring in Mike McDonald. Mike McDonald,
who ends up being their defensive coordinator, does an unbelievable
job during his time There's so much so that he
ends up getting hired as the Baltimore Ravens defensive.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Coordinator after that and then now hired as the head
coach Donald for the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So Mike McDonald who then leads to Jesse Miner that
leads to again this defensive performance that becomes up there
with the top in college football. The other thing is
he moved on from Josh Gaddis, Josh Gaddis who I
felt like at times was holding back the Michigan offense,
and he brought in shrown More in that twenty twenty
one offseason. Shn Moore, who eventually now becomes the head coach,
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but was a co offensive coordinator to begin with, and
during his time there became a co offensive coordinate with
Matt Weiss, and they've you know, you've seen that, you know,
remarkable improvement, but also Jaj McCarthy coming along as well
and being able to lead them to an essence almost
an undefeated record with the exception of one game.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
And so as much as you want to make it
about the Conter Stallion saga. The truth in the.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Reality of it is it doesn't have really anything to
do with that one thing. I mean, as we talked
about before with Stallions, he wasn't a part of this
program at all in the second half of last year
where they played their most important games versus Penn State,
versus Ohio State into the College Football Playoff to win
a national championship.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
That had nothing to do with Connor Stallions.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So I'm just tired of this false narrative that's put
out there about Michigan. And I'm like surprised I'm defending
Michigan in this case, but it just it's I'm so
tired of hearing it. It's like, look, take the ls folks,
and if you think your team wasn't doing something, whether
it's through recruiting or whether it's through you know, scouting
and all this stuff, you're probably wrong. Everyone's trying to
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bend the rules in some way. That's just the life
in college football right now. It is a very very
crazy world, the wild wide West that we're all living in.
I don't know how you see it, but I had
to get that off my chest because I'm so tired
of hearing it and seeing it on social media and
all these different bloggers and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
I'm glad you got it off of your chest. I'm
not that passionate about it. I will say it is
intriguing to me to think that you could come to
the conclusion that anyone could come to the conclusion that
if you watched this Michigan team play, that the sign
stealing was the reason why they had a competitive advantage.
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I mean, if you're trying to say, Okay, they were
in a position to put a personnel grouping out there
to give them an unfair advantage, I mean, is that
based off of stealing a sign, or is that the
people that are above looking down and supposed to have
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the personnel groupings that are coming into the game and
different things like that, how they're playing. Listen, I watched
in person the dismantling of one of the best defenses
in college football last year, and it was a run.
They ran the ball and we could not Penn State
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could not stop the run. Just couldn't stop the run.
I can't attribute success and let people can say, well,
that was post that was post Connor Stallions, Nscallions.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
You know that was supposed to him. I don't care.
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
If you look at that Michigan team and the run
that they went on, it was run heavy and it
was play defense. They had guys like Aiden Hutchinson on
their teams. They had what was shot Berry was it
during that time?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Perry Like.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
They've had some pretty phenomenal football players come off of that.
They have a phenomenal player number two. That where's Charles's
number right now? They have some phenomenal players on the
defense side of the ball, Johnson, Will Johnson. They've had
some amazing Quorum is an amazing running back. The running
back that backed him up, he's an amazing running back.
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Their offensive line they short it up through the portal.
It was just, if you're going to look at it
from a critical standpoint, they had a superior team.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Q they have had a superior team. And I think
there's a.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Huge correlation between quarterbacks and I know some people who
are purist in college football hate hearing the comparison of
projecting what they'll be at the NFL level. But if
you have a quarterback who is either a first round
talent or can play at the NFL level, he's one
of the best of college football. I think we can
agree upon that. And if you look at the run,
especially the recent run for Alabama, and you go through
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the Bryce Young who won a Heisman Trophy, was a
first round pick, number one overall pick. You know, you
go to the mac Jones, the tool tongue of Bila
and even Jalen hurtsho was there for a period.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Of time, ends up being a high second round pick.
But I think you get my point, so pure your talent,
and even.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
McElroy who got drafted, Aji mcchaerron who got drafted, Like
you go through the years of Bama's success, there's a
correlation between the most important position in college sports in
my opinion, the quarterback, and success. So let me ask
you this, When was the last time, okay, the last
time a quarterback who was recruited to Michigan got drafted.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Before JJ McCarthy. That's a good one. Probably. Ooh, was
it the kid that didn't tie his shoes? No?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
No, I think you're talking about Alan Bowman, who just
now I think he's still actually playing. He's still a
quarterback for Oklahoma State. But it was Chad Henny in
two thousand and eight. That is the last quarterback they
have had that was recruited there and drafted, and that
he was a second round pick. Now people were going
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to say, well, what about Jake Rudok in twenty sixteen.
Jake Rudock wasn't recruited in Michigan. He transferred there. He
was originally an Iowa quarterback and then he eventually came
for his final season and got drafted in the sixth
round by the Detroit Lions. But I have always said
this Michigan and their return to glory was going to
have everything to do about finally getting a talented quarterback.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
The second they got J. J.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
McCarthy, who finished his high school ball at IMG Academy
and is now a first round pick, was going to
give them a shot at winning a national championship, combined
with the other pieces that they have.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
But that, to me, I don't think he had to
win that job. And he had to win that job.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Somebody was who was the other guy that was they
were looking at kind of like it could go either
way for a moment there.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
It wasn't just.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
McCarthy had the job and came in as this like
you know, the franchise guy. He had to win that
job out. I can't remember. I can't recall. The other quarterback, Alan.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Bowman, who's now at Oklahoma State, did transfer in from
Texas Tech.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
He was one of the other quarterbacks. They had a
bunch of quarterbacks on their roster. But to your point,
he had to win a quarterback competition.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
He had to win it. Yeah, he ended up being
the guy. But to the greater point is just stop
with this whole thing. It was just Connor Stallions. It
wasn't They had a first round quote drafted quarterback. They
had thirteen players drafted. They did a good job recruiting
and developing. They made staff changes that ended up leading
to Mike McDonald's now a head coach in the NFL.
Other coaches who Harbaugh took along with them to the
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NFL Schroan Moore who's become now a head coach.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
It didn't have just to do with Connor Stallions.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
This was a university that under Jim Harbaugh kind of
found its way after COVID of what they needed to
do in order to win. And so as much as
we want to sit there and use the punishment that's
thrown down on Jim Horribaugh as a reason for you know,
this is the only reason they want anask champions.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
It's just not true. It's just not true.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
You know, they were able to build this thing up
to really put all their chips in that that this
past season and when they needed to the most, without
their head coach, without the help of Connor Stallions, they
showed up the biggest and the biggest games. So please
do stop with what the stupid conversation around it only
being about Connor Stallions.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
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Speaker 2 (34:44):
All right, I want to do my stories. I don't
want to talk about Chris down. I don't want Brady
and to passive aggressively attack each other over Chris Brown's past.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Oh my gosh. I want to get to your stories
is what I want to do.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
All right?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Are you ready? Yes?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I can be supported musically, remember.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Lee, and that is a hint for play some music.
The Olympics have.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Had a great deal of puzzo, which is a Greek
word for penis, and they've had erections like Levar's blue choo.
You saw that right, The diver, yes, you thought. Oh
come on, Brady, you were there. He was pointing at you.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
The poop river.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You saw that, right, Brady.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah, we saw the set. I walked walk by it often.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Saw Javert's body bobbing around. Uh. You got the volleyball,
the bulbo se volleyball booties that everybody's excited about, right,
especially Espanya. You got the pole vault Dong incident, which
is still crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Tang.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
You got records and everything, and a new story has emerged.
And I didn't hear you guys talk about it when
you were hmming and hawing about Stefan Diggs, and I
didn't hear Eddie talk about it. In his very informative update,
an Australian Olympian field hockey player by the name of
(36:13):
Tom Craig got jacked after a team function in Paris
for trying to buy one measlely Gramma cocaine. Oh wow, man,
he got busted. There was a team party there, you go,
good job. There was a team party.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
This is how we knew around different direction there.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
One minute after the team party, he tried to buy
a gramma cocaine. Then he got snatched up one gram,
which is the cocaine equivalent, I believe, though it's been
a few decades. The cocaine equivalent of like a dime
bag of weed from the movies in the eighties. Now
(37:05):
you just go to the store to buy weed and
the guy's like, this one's a little speedy. It's got
a bit of an aftertaste. It's like we didn't used
to be like he used to smoke whatever the guy had,
you know, But anyway, I digress. Would you like to
hear the apology from Tom Craig, Guys.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I would love you. He's an Australian.
Speaker 8 (37:26):
I'd first like to apologize for what has occurred in
the last twenty four hours. Oh, I've made a terrible mistake. Oh,
I take full responsibility for my actions. I've embarrassed you
all and I'm truly sorry.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I feel like I was listening to a Jason Statha movie,
I'm the Beekeeper. Dang.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
The field hockey team lost to the Dutch in the quarterfinals.
They had a final Paris party and Tom Craig went
straight for the yak when the party got out.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
He wasn't going no charges.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yet it wasn't an undercover cop like entrapment, but a
busted cocaine transaction.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
So he was so.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Nonchalant.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
So did the arrest Did he get caught in the
act of trying to purchase it?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
They my French friend, and then you know, the cop
ran up and or maybe he was trying to hide
it down under you know.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Taqista. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
All right, next story, Men's four hundred. I did hear
Eddie mentioned this? You guys saw the four hundred. I
talked about it now seeing the show man Quincy Hall
one of the greatest comebacks ever. Man more gold in
his mouth than Paul Wall if we're going to talk
about screw music. I have never seen a sprinter with
(39:05):
that much gold in his mouth. And I was Obviously
the race was inspiring. The four hundred is always an
inspiring race. And it was so weird because coming around
to three hundred meters where that's where the piano gets
on your back or whatever they always say.
Speaker 9 (39:22):
Boom boom boom, very nice boom boom. He looked like
he was about to like pass out. Yeah, it was
like fifth or sixth place, Yeah, and then he found it.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I don't know what it was, but I looked it
up though, because I wondered how much mouth gold you
get from being from where that guy's from. There's a
lot of gold. And I have a grail myself, Do
you really? I bought grills for my very first radio show.
I bought grills for everybody. So if this was my
(39:54):
first radio show, which is not, Lorena and Lee and
you and Brady.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
All have grills, I've always wanted one.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yep, kind of hurts.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Sean Taylor used to wear a grill like the Wu
Tang client fans.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
My grill had two two diamond peas in the front,
two teeth, so.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
You knew how to roll your lip up.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
If I had ever gotten a grill and put it
in my mouth and showed my dad shopper, she would
have not let your teeth wrap out of me.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, you never know. Good for him When you see
it up close, it's so impressive. Sometimes it stops you
in your tracks, stand not amazed. Interesting anyway, this isn't
my first radio show, and I'm forty seven years old,
so nobody has a grill. But I still have mine.
I'll take a picture, Brady, and I think it still
(40:52):
fits on my jagged ass mouth. But this guy, Quincy
Hall I found out is from Kansas City, hmm. And
South Carolina guy. And how about this high school wrestler
I out that, Yeah, and his teeth were so teethed.
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
So anyway, congratulations. He was grilled and he was grilling
and chilling. He really was.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Okay, okay, okay, Now I have two college football stories.
You think we have time? Yeah, yes, I'd like to
mention a uniform alert, the sweet UNI alert. Have you
guys seen this uniform? I know you don't care because
you're Big Ten elites and you don't look down to
(41:39):
the bottom half of the Big Ten with any kind
of real admiration or love. But Illinois, which is the
cradle of college football, by the way, will wear the
greatest throwback uniforms, the greatest alternate uniform I have ever
seen in my life on October over nineteenth against the
(42:01):
Michigan Wolverines and show.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Cause more.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Right, Yes, these are the greatest uniforms I've ever seen
anybody put on. You know, they modeled it on their
Twitter or whatever. I saw it last night. Illinois in
the twenties was the home of one of the most
innovative football coaches that ever lived, a guy named Coach Zupkey,
(42:27):
who created, I mean so many things you can't even
mention them. The kickoff, the linebacker position, the flea flicker
is hurt by these gray uniforms. The huddle.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
No that I no, they're not way.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I will say this the only thing because because Notre
Dame did something with the helmet similar to what they're
trying to do when they make it look like an
old leather helmet. The only thing I'll say is that
just doesn't quite capture what that was back then. Bite
your tongue was I'm just saying that the uniforms dove.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Illinois in the twenties was the home of Red Grange.
Red Grange is college football's first star, and he's really
pro football's first star. Saved Jim Thorpe and Red Grange
was a working man's hero and caught the attention of
the country, and that was really the first time that
the country loved football. We all have Red Grange to
(43:25):
thank for the gross, hulking, pulsating money grab that college
football is now that all of us have benefited from. Anyway.
They made the helmet look leather. Brady doesn't like it,
and now I hate Brady, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Suck. I mean, it does look leather in the twenties.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
That's what the UNI looked like.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
That's what it looked like.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
They have Red Grange's uniform inside the building there at Illinois.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
In and they don't get their hits kicked in with them.
Nice throwback uniform.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Well remember this, LeVar. This is the hundredth anniversary. This
game will be the hundredth anniversary of Red Grange's six
touchdown game Dog versus the Wolverine.
Speaker 10 (44:13):
Mod Dog the Ghost of Dick Buckets. Red Grange will
win that game. Oh, I ugged him. I hugged him
once there when I was in Champagne and was like
hugging a tree.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Dick Buckets is the greatest.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Anyway, this is the greatest uniform I've ever seen. And
if it's not cool enough for you big ten bullies,
then I'm sorry. I think the uniform is cool, as
I'll continue to state. The helmet it just doesn't quite do.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
It for me.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
I think they're hideous uniforms. It will be as ugly
as the loss they take and wearing. I hope they
changed their minds.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Well.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I'm glad that I was able to share with you
guys something that means something to me and have to
mierate on him
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