August 20, 2021 • 57 mins
Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington reunite on Outkick and dive right into Thursday Night Football. Jalen Hurts had a mysterious last minute stomach virus, which moved the gambling line by 2 points, Jonas wants answers! Outkick's NFL insider Albert Breer is in the house to talk everything football! He's been on a nationwide tour of team's training camps. Animal Thunderdome is here for your Friday, featuring a dad who's a hero and a big snake on a shelf. Plus, They jump into the report that the Big 10, Pac 12 and ACC are about to make a formal announcement soon, and talk CFB playoff potential issues.
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Oh yeah, god, Brady, I didn't know you like the
song that much? What movie? Come on a little movie?
What movie? What's the first thing that comes to mind? Friday? Friday? Friday?
I didn't want I didn't want you how to get stuck?
I don't want to lose any listeners because yeah missed
this one. Listen. I'm a Players Club fan myself, one
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of the most underrated comties. I cannot be mad at
you for liking Players Club. By the way, I didn't
even know if it's intended to be a comedy, but
I don't know that it was either. But what if
cast Bernie mack is so oh my god God. I
wish I could say, but I can't. Dollar Bill, Yeah,
dollar Bill, who the hell are you talking to? He
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talking to your ass? I love Bernie mac Man. Alright,
so um it is out kicked the coverage here Fox
Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington Jonas knocks Brady Quim with you
here on fs are coming up in a little over
ten minutes from now. There are two ways to handle
h fights at training camp in practice, and you're gonna
hear from two coaches because they had completely opposite views
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on how this should be handled. We'll have that for
here ten minutes from now on fs are, um gotta
handle it like a man. Yeah, well, you know, according
to uh somebody in the a f C West, maybe
not so much. You know. Just here's the I'm not
trying to start any sort of scandalous uh, you know,
a betting allegation or anything like that. I'm just simply
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gonna point out some facts. Okay, okay, anybody want to
tell me what the hell happened to Jalen Hurts last night?
And while he didn't play, Oh, he had a stomach virus.
He said he was, Yeah, all of a sudden, got
a stomach virus, like right before kickoff. They sent him
when they made sure it wasn't the big Yeah, we're
sure that's not bubble guts though, him just being a
little nervous or something. I don't know. But they were
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able to take a pepsi this morning. That is stupid.
And let me tell you something I was. I was
having a couple of moments in the parking lot before
I came in here. I will not tell a lie.
You know, some people go outside to smoke cigarettes. I
was outside just you know, yeah, I was letting a ride.
I mean I had to hit the seven eleven. I
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was like, why did I not take a pepsil when
I got up? That's that's very gentlemanly of you, though.
It's like some people would bring that right right on in,
not even Cara and just walking with it too, like
like everywhere you go, like, oh yeah, where is that
trail plane? It's wrapped around me like a mummy, just
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a mummy of gas. We were driving. I was driving
home yesterday. My kids was like, what is that. I
was like, that's a skunk. Something probably got hit. My
mom had sushi and left in the car. I tell you,
if you all see one did on the road. Something
is walking around. So it was it was the weed.
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Here's uh here, here's my point on this, on this
Jalen hurts thing. So Nick Sirianni comes out afterwards, Well,
you know, we took him to the hospital's precaution. He
didn't have COVID, but I had a little bit of
a stomach issue. It's like, okay, but every report out
there said he was out there pregame warmups. He was excited,
he was jumping around, fired up, getting ready to go,
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and then then the business happened in his pants. It
was over, okay, but the night was over. You didn't
have a change of pants for him. Listen, everybody listening,
everybody listening here has had that accident happened before. Nobody's
gone to the hospital, not one single person who's had
to go to the hospital. All. It just doesn't add
up to me. And here's the part that also I
feel for if you bet on that game last night.
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First of all, if you're betting on the NFL preseason,
you got problems to begin with. Secondly, okay, well I
didn't better, but I don't know, but I was. I
was on the air when I saw something happen to
the line. So we were on straight out of Vegas
yesterday and about an hour and a half before kickoff,
the betting line was New England as a favorite. Within
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the next hour, Philadelphia jumped and became a one and
a half to two point favorite, which is a significant
line move on a preseason game. So we were talking
about in the air, like something must be up, there's
gotta be is there a late scratch or whatever, only
to find out it was Jalen Hurts who got scratched
from Philadelphia. So if you're one of those people that
jumped on the Eagle betting bandwagon last night because you
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felt like, oh man, I'm onto something. The line is moving,
only to have Jalen Hurts may or may not have
craft his pants before the game and that's why he
got pulled from the lineup, you got to be just
absolutely distraught right now, Brady, absolutely distraught. And I feel
for you, Brady, because I know you bet on Philly.
Not trust me, I'm not betting on preseason football games.
It just it doesn't end up. So what did it
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open out? What did it close out? Okay, it opened
with the Patriots like a one and a half to
two point favorite something like that. Then about an hour
before kickoff, they were still a slight favorite, and then
thirty minutes before kickoff, the Eagles were a one and
a half to two point favorite. That's a lot of
line movement in sixty minutes, only to find out that
the starting quarterback is out and I think they were
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finished from there. We we talked about the game, they
were not. That doesn't That doesn't even make any sense.
Why would it swing in the favor of Philly? That
apart doesn't make any sense. But I thought was going
to be the guy on the show yesterday that Flacco isn't.
We talked about that on this very so he was
scratched after all the line move so it's it's almost
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like some but he got bad info and jumped on
it and said, oh my god, you know I'm onto
something here. The Patriots or are planning this or the
Eagles have got this plan and next thing you know,
he gets a late scratch. I guarantee you there are
people out there and Nick Sirianni. Nick Sirianni's gonna is
gonna have to answer some questions because they're gonna be
people who because this Italian is got the case, it's
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not the case. How I racist didn't make it. I
cheered for Italy in the euro I cheered for Italy
in the Europe. You know how Jonas would have bet
last night's game. Okay, he would have. He would have
saw the movement hopped on the bandwagon, taking the egos,
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taking the Eagles at a point, yes, and then he
would have lied even through third was going back. Yeah,
that's how he bet. He never just says, okay, I
started hedging the other in. Any any guy, any guy listening,
as we keep in the theme of potty talk in
the segment, any guy listening to this right now knows
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when you've really got to use a go number one
and you and waiting a while, and you've been on
a long road trip. Nobody just goes in there and
does half and says I'll get the other half later. No, no, no,
it's all coming out. You were getting all of it out.
And and if I'm betting on that last night, I'm
going no, no, no no, no, I'm not just gonna bet
the game on Philadelphia. I'm gonna ride them all the
way through on the way out. Yeah, And I want
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to lost significance amount of money. But I do believe
that Nick Sirianni is going to have to answer questions
from the NFL because they're gonna say, hey, when did
you know that Jalen Hurtzel is not going to be
a part of this. And and if the NFL wants
to partner up with gambling and all this stuff, and
I mean this seriously, like like they are going to
have to work with these companies to realize if you
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start to alienate a significant amount of your fan base,
that that provides a bunch of incoming, a bunch of
income going into the NFL for years to come, and
try to build these relate ation chips. You gotta be
on the up and up. And it felt like Nick
Sirianna wasn't on the up and up last night. And
you said because he's Italian, That's not what I said
that I thought my micros off. I'm telling you, if
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he had to do that to an Italian person, I'm
watching him very closely for my own personal interests. You
did what I'm saying, if you dig what I mean,
if you're picking up he does bring up a good point.
And because Lavore, we we've talked a lot about the
Texans situation, and like the NFL not I'm not saying
they need to interject, but if he's on the example list,
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the Texans know what the deal is. Deshan knows what
the deal is, and any team looking at trade for
him knows what the deal is. So so I gotta
look at this and I think to myself, like, that's
another scenario where if I'm a gambling outfit and or
I'm a partner, because there are you know now partners,
especially with some of these teams and those majors, maybe
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the biggest partners, they need clarity, like they need clarity
with these situations, especially when it's in the NFL's con roll.
So Jonas, I think you're onto something aside from the
Italian thing. I think reckless accusation. You're not going to
be able to go on to certain places. Okay. So
a couple of years ago, a couple of a couple
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of years ago, the Dolphins got got and not in
There was an investigation that was done because Ryan Tannehill
was a full participant in practice uh leading up to
a game, and then two days later he was ruled
out for the week and there was no update to
his injury designation. And so the NFL talk to the
Dolphins and said, hey, you like, what is going on here?
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How does he go from full participant, no injury reported
to next thing you know he's out because and there's
been other examples Todd Gurley. We never got clarity on
Todd Gurley's knee, like we never got a true clarity
on that. Yeah, And and it's the part of the
reason why Belichick put Tom Brady on the injury or
poor for years with the shoulder issue is because they
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didn't report an injury and the Patriots got a talking
to and that was then. Nowadays, you gotta be totally transparent,
and I don't think that they were last night. And
people are gonna dismiss it, like, oh well, it's just
a preseason game, dude, people bet on these preseason games.
You'll know how. I know the line moved two points
in an hour like that. It's a significant amount of movement.
And there's some people that are gonna be piste off.
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You sound upset. Listen, I didn't have money on the game.
Maybe you didn't have money out of the game, but
you sound very upset, like this could this could impact
you and the future. This needs to be addressed now
before you are the recipient of being upset from something
like this. Taking time, you're being proactive instead of reacting.
A couple of few years ago. Remember when Tony Romo
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got in trouble because he had some fantasy football convention
I wanted to put on, Yeah, and the NFL said no, no, No,
that's because gambling was so taboo. And then all of
a sudden, much like the weed and much like booze
and prohibition, when people were trying more acceptable because you
can make money off it, right, And and the NFL
knows it can make money. Yeah, but it knows it
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can make money, and I don't. I've heard, I've watched movies. Yeah,
I mean listen, that is the report. But the NFL
knows it can make money off gambling. If you're if
you're gonna partner with them, you gotta be on the
up and up and and there's gonna be situations and
they already have been where people have not been on
the up and up about about players being made available
and when they're supposed to announce the and make these decisions.
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And the fact that he was pulled that soon before
kickoff screwed a lot of people over. A lot of
people got jobbed, got the chaft. Well, I know you're
concerned about that, damn right. I'm more concerned about we
talked about the Patriots like previewing that that matchup last night.
Did anything Cam Newton or Mac Jones? Did that change
your perspective on what you think it's gonna happen once
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they get into the regular season. No, it just solidified it.
Matt Jones just got zero chance to be in the
starting quarterback in New England. He's got zero chance. But
I like the way he played. He played man. I mean,
if you're New England, you gotta feel good your line blocked.
I mean, here's the thing though, Yeah, that doesn't look
like a guy who can tell you that right now?
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That was weird. Um. Listen, I thought that Mac Jones,
if anything, show that he is legit in terms of
being one of the first guys one the only guy.
I think he's like the only dude that that it's
been taken in the first round by Bill Belichick in
the draft. I mean, if I don't know, we could
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check the record on that. But listen, but Cam, you
gotta give props where props or do? It's it's a
preseason game. It's still preseason. But you what you don't
want to do is look like what Philly looked like, right?
You don't. You don't want to look horribly bad. You
you don't have to look good, man, you don't just
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you you don't have to look great or phenomenal in preseason.
You just don't have to look horrible. And that's the thing, like,
you don't look horrible, and and they didn't look horrible.
So listen, you gotta be feeling good. Their line block well,
they had a running attack that was that was present.
They were physical, They seemed to be really executing well, Brady.
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I mean, when I saw it, it just looked like
this was vintage vintage New England Patriot offense style of offense.
You mixed some good crossing routes. You you had some
some nice you know, reads to the outside with your
runs somewhere downhill and between the tackles. I thought it
was really nice to me. I thought the balance was there.
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I thought it was good. And both quarterbacks looked to
be very confident in what it was that they were doing. Yeah,
the only thing I don't know is how you know,
Philly approached this game versus how New England did. And
obviously Hurts not being a part of it, maybe that
played an impact. But you know, we talked a little
bit yesterday too about you we only got three preseason games.
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Now we don't have four. If there was a game
that was going to be the dress rehearsal, I think
last night was it and looked like it. And I
remember being with Josh and Denver back in two thousand
and ten and how he prepared that were going into
that third preseason game like it was. Once we got
in the regular season, I was like, Oh, yeah, this
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is legit, this is what he's looking for, this is
what he wants. And I'm not saying he pulled out
his best stuff, but there's definitely some more game planning.
You could definitely you could tell that, you know, Philly
wasn't necessarily trying to do everything they could do offensively,
not that they had. You know, again, they're starting quarterback,
but still even with the backups, and you're like, all right,
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maybe this looks a little bit different that they're playing.
In the course of the regular season, New England was
just icing them up. They were kind of like, Hey,
this is working, this is working. We're gonna call this.
We're gonna call this because in my opinion, I think
Josh is one of the better play callers, designer of plays,
if you will, and he can figure out how to
get to whatever he wants from whatever personnel grouping from
all that prestep you know, most and shifts and all
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that stuff. And they didn't do a ton of that
last night, but they could show a little bit of
what they're gonna do in the regular season and not
give away too much because I think how creative McDaniels is,
so that was on display a little bit too. Is
just the difference in preparation, and I think how the
Patriots handled that versus how Philly handled that. Do you
think if Denver didn't go the way that it did
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for Josh McDaniels, he would get more love as being
a great play caller like Chile Shannon Shaw. You know
what's crazy is his So obviously the first year he
got there, they start off six and oh, they're like
the hottest team in the NFL in two thousand and nine,
and then they finished two and eight. And what happened
over that second half is it was the oddest thing.
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You know, some of the local media picked up on
him on the sidelines. He's a fiery guy, right like
he's from the Bill Belichick Tree, he's an Ohio guy.
He's got he's got a little you know, irish anger
to him and all that he'd be exploding on the
side wherever we had on the board, Man, come on,
because you not by man. I can't believe that I
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got irish people my U triggered, right, We tend to
be very quickly unbelievable self. That was self take. He
was using some foul language and that sidelines relatively close
media fans. People got a little bit of it. And
when people got irritated, they got irritated like he was irritated.
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They got like it was it was almost as if
like no, no, no, that's not what we want out
of our head coach. Like our head coach doesn't talk
like that, doesn't act like that. They literally started to
like build up this anger against him. And I don't
know if it was so much to how the media
took him, because again I don't think it was fair Brady.
I'm like the way he he was handled. I thought
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it was like, well, we're very premature, and how how
that was and he was really for now because of
public opinion if you asked me, well, that was part
of it. But then the other thing was we did
get caught in London filming the San Francisco for not
his practice. There was like a spy gate, So I
think that may have added to it a little bit too.
Everybody that some people can't execute as high level of
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doing things the way as you know it happens in
New England. Big difference between London and low do you
know what I mean? Lower downtown in Denver and maybe
well just you know, never done six. Yeah, let's go.
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Asked Brady about Tracy Morgan staying number one time he
left the president. He left the president, speaking of speaking
of Jalen Hurts, all right, it is I don't kicked
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Friday it is. Yeah, shots out to all the high
school teams going into war tonight. Man, Good luck to
you all, stay so safe and have a great time
out there. You've earned it. Yeah, Friday night Lights, baby starts.
I smell the popcorn and the and the cheap burgers.
They cook on the grill and man dogs so good. Yeah,
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orange pennies and in in the uh pennies in the cartons.
You ever hear about that? Oh yeah, you can shake
them to make some noise. Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
yeah great? He didnt play at school football. You don't
get it, man, You know you ever played the game? Man?
You don't know what that world's like. I missed. I
was back in Ohio's past. What you could tell man,
like Ohio it takes their football seriously. Now LaVar knows
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you guys. Are you guys originally from Ohio? Brady, Yeah,
let me tell you something. When you when you disclosed
your dad's name yesterday and that's I was like, you
cho let me let me tell you something. You have
no choice but to be one bad mother effort when
your name is Tyrone, Bro, I mean he wasn't marine
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in Vietnam, so yeah, real talk, bro. When you said that,
I was like, man, let me check this, Like like,
my dad's name is Tyrone. I was like, let me
check this. I went to your wicked page. I was like,
his dad's name. I said that he's a guy. That's
what I knew. I had the clarity on why you're
such a tough dude. Bro, If your dad's name is
like like, for instance, I give you a great example.
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If your name is Mike, you gotta be tough because
it's so common. But it's like Mike, like Michael, it's tough.
But Tyrone. See, I would like to dispute that because
my brother's name is Tyrone, And what the hell happened
to me? You know what I mean? Yeah, that's that's
a very valid point. I'm totally debon. I'm really because
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I really wanted to defend you and I couldn't. Brady.
I looked looked him in his eyes. I looked in
his eyes like I have no red. You are soft.
Let me let me stop there. You have a barbed
wire on your arm. It's thorn band. Listen. I have
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no idea, all right. I talked to uh, you know
Jimmy's tattoo and port White Amy right next to knox
Nard where they have a Cowboys training camp. Talked to
him it was his idea. You had a wild night
that day. Yeah, haven't been a mistake ever since. All right,
it is I kicked the coverage here Fox Sports Radio.
He's Levarrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Nocks with you here on
fs are coming up next though. There are a couple
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of ways you can handle a training camp fight and
these coaches completely in the opposite direction. We'll have that
for you here. This this is I'll kick the coverage.
It is I'll kicked the coverage here on Fox Sports Radio.
We are going to have Animal Thunderdome coming up later
on in the hour. So if if you are into
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an animal Thunderdome and some of the grotesque stories from
around that world, Danny G's got nothing but bad news
for you. That'll be happening here later on in the
hour here on fs ARE right now though he is
from mm QB. He is senior NFL reporter. He's been
covering the league for a long time, always kind enough
to join us every single week. Here it is Albert Brier,
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and he has been traveling the country going from training
camp to training camp. I don't even need to leave
the house. I just follow him on Twitter and he
takes me all throughout the country. You have to be
a certain age to be the senior person. That means
you get paid more. To Brady it Animal Thunderdome hour.
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I gotta know because you were at Jags training camp
earlier this week and you've been traveling around going from
from team to team, and I don't know if you
were there for the tebow stuff. I don't even want
to spend any time on that. Just the Urban Meyer
experience at the NFL level. You being an Ohio State alum,
you know Urban Meyer. Well, how do you think it's
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translating to the practice field. From what you've seen, there's
no question there's a a college field to it, and
that it's very efficient. You see them trying to maximize
the amount of reps they're trying to get out there. Um,
they had a they had a period. I can't it
was called the difference was the name of the period,
and like every single player is getting reps all at once,
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and in that way, it felt like college because I
know that college coaches do these sorts of things because
they've got less time, they've got more restraints of their time,
and you're seeing some of those timer strengths now coming
to the NFL. So I think Urban smart to take
some of that stuff from the college game to the
NFL game. And you know, I know this having talked
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to him after the practice. Um, you know, he thinks
lot of that stuff is gonna translate the one thing
that he definitely has working for him here. Um, it's
a little bit different than i'd say when Chip Kelly
got to the Eagles, or when Jim Harbaugh got to
the got to the Niners, and maybe a little bit
more like when Pete Carroll got to the Seahawks. And
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then that team is very very young, and so being
as young as they are, I think it's easier for
him to program build because those guys have less of
an idea of what it's supposed to be at the
NFL level. So he's gonna do some things that he's
taking with him from Utah, Florida, Ohio State. I think
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the players are gonna be a little bit more accepting
of it because it's the younger group, all right. So
you had an opportunity to look at the Ravens. I
think they're an intriguing team for this year because they're
kinda at that point of where you want to see
them take the next steps out, but you're not sure
if they can take the next steps. What what was
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your akeaways when you were able to see them up close.
Do you think this is a year that they take
a step forward? Do they stay the same, which I
don't know how that happens, or do they slide back
a little bit? Well, there are two things that stuck out,
um LaVar and I'll be honest. Like one of the
things that Um, it was a little hard to get
a read on the offense overall, just because they are
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really being up the receiver right now. A bunch of
soft tissue injuries with the receiver, so a lot of
those guys weren't out there and they were giving I
think a couple of their offensive lineman a day. Um,
they're starting tackles weren't out there, So I think it's
hard to get a read on the offense overall. That said,
you know, having talked to some of the guys, UM,
two things really stand out. They think the defense is
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gonna be really really good. Um. You know, between you
know what they have in the secondary of guys like
Marlon Humphrey and and Marcus Teeters, and the safeties have
shown really well to Sean Elliott and Chuck Clark. Uh,
they feel like the front is going to be excellent. Um,
and you know, Brady han't covered the big tent l
last year. A dafe o a saying they think he's
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gonna be a superstar, and so like even is the
one thing that you take away, you say, they feel
like they've got this has got a chance to be
like a vintage version of the Ravens defense. They're always good,
but they've got those upticks and they think that this
is one of those years where they're gonna get that uptick, right.
And then I think with Lamar, it's an interesting, like
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very specific thing that the coaches are saying. Now he's
throwing a tighter spiral, and you know, it's not that
he wasn't capable of that before. It's that it's badwood
flutter at times and it was a little inconsistent, and
they've really tightened up his fundamentals and they've tightened up,
you know, some of the mechanical stuff, and he's throwing
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a tighter spiral more consistently. And it's something guys that
even just talking to the Panthers people, you know, they
were enjoying practice with the Panthers the last couple of days.
The Panthers people noticed it. So it's gonna be interesting
to see what Lamar looks like out there when you
give him his full complement of weapons, which, again, those
guys weren't out there when I was out there. Albert,
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you just mentioned you were at the Panthers camp out
Sam Donald look with this new team we were talking
about a day or two ago. Just how what exactly
does Zach Wilson bring that Sam Turtle didn't outside of,
you know, the financial commitment that the Jets would have
had to make sooner to him. But how is Donald
looking his new digs down there in Carolina? Well, I
hadn't one that it's gonna happen when he's sitting next
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to him, because Christian McCaffrey looks like he's all the
way back and so like that, I think is the
number one thing is that they're not going to be
asking the world of him. And because the Jets were
in a I would say, to put it nicely, a
difficult spot from a personnel standpoint on offense, when Sam
was there, he had to carry the offense and the
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Panthers aren't gonna ask him to do that. So that's
the first thing. The other thing that's sort of interesting
that I've picked up and and I I won't be
able to take this the right way like the Panthers.
Panthers at people who've talked to Adam Gaze about what
went wrong with Sam Donald. Now you know, some people
might say, well, why would you talk to Gaze about it? Well,
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Adam knows exactly what went wrong, you know, And so
I think it's sort of been helpful for the Panthers
people to talk to Adam. And Adam has been very,
very i think, honest with them about where he messed up,
where some of the things maybe didn't go quite right.
And so I think the Panthers feel like because they've
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been you know, like sort of taking a really hard
look at what went wrong with the Jets, not just
from personnel standpoint, but with him personally. Um, they've been
able to do some things to make Sam more comfortable,
like don't give him long play calls, like get him
playing fast. And as a result, what they've seen in
camp and we'll see if it translates to the games,
is that he's seeing things faster now than he did before. So,
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and I'm talking about back in O t A s
like it's it's come along that fast. So they've seen
some positive things, and I think using Adam Gaze as
a resource, it's actually helped the Panthers in a certain way.
He's Albert Breer of the mm QB, senior NFL reporter,
joining us here on out Kicked the coverage here Fox
Sports Radio, Jonas Knox, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quimby here on
FS are um the Titans. I don't know what the
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hell to make of the Titans because I keep thinking, oh, well,
you know the Indianapolis culture, you know, are the team
to be. We all know that that Houston's got no
shot and Jacksonville is sort of rebuilding and trying to
change the culture. The Titans at Julio Jones you got
to see them up close and personal. I don't know
how much of Julio you got to watch, But how
impressive could this offense be this upcoming season? I mean,
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the offense is gonna be the problem and the oven
is gonna be fine. Um. I picked up an interesting
number when I was there, which it's kind of like
an obscure thing, but I thought I was I thought
it was fascinating, Like I didn't know this, but I
guess before last year, no team that had like a
worse than fifty third down conversion rate on defense and
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never made the playoffs before, and the Titans did it
last year, Like they were worse than I think they
were fifty two on third down, So like sort of
tells you how they've used their offense to like mask
some of the problems on defense and how much work
they had to do on defense. And so I think,
like the with the Titans, it really sort of comes
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down to some really simple stuff, which is can make
cover and where's the pass rush? Um, that's how they're
gonna be better against you know, the task, how they're
gonna be better on third down and so um, you know,
you simplify things. I think with them, where all of
our attention was on Julio and you know what where
the offense could go with all this and where Ryan
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Tannehill is going into year three there and all that
stuff and that stuff that's important, you know, But I
think like there's a feeling there that the offense was
gonna be fine, you know, regardless of who they added whatever. Like,
the offense is in a good place, especially with Taylor
la Wan coming back at left tackle. It's really gonna
come down to the work they did in trying to
bolster the task rush and bringing in Bud Dupree and
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then almost completely turning over the corner position um and
bringing in guys like Caleb Farley from Virginia Tech, um
like Norris jenkins Um, and then getting Christian Fulton, who
looks like a different player going into year two. So
I think really what the Titans is gonna come down
to just a couple of things, which is is that
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edge position correct where it needs to be and is
a corner position where it needs to be If it is,
and they're really well rounded team, and I think they're
dangerous in the a f C. If it isn't, I
don't think there's a whole lot better than they were
last year. Oh my, My last question for you would
be watching cam last night. There are a lot of
things that you could take away from the game, and
you don't have to put too much weight on the
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performance in general because obviously it's preseason. But one thing
you can a definitively is he moved well. He looked
good in terms of his movement, He stepped up in
the pocket well, he looked crisp, he looked like healthy,
He looked like, actually, uh, Cam Newton last night? Can
you expand on that, Like, what was the feeling of
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that um and covering that? I mean, I LaVar like
I think it. Brady be more qualified to talk about
this than me, But I just thought the pocket movement
in general, and I'm not talking about running um. I
think the pocket movement in general was so much better.
And I don't know what happened. I don't know what
Josh did with him over the last week, but I
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mean this week a lot last week too. This week,
you know what he looked like in camp to what
he looked like in the game last night, It just
looked different and definitely different than last year because the
problem last year wasn't that he couldn't run as much.
It was that he wasn't moving in the pocket. He'd
stand there and get hit. And so I think that's
a really encouraging sign um now, like to me, like
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a big part of this is gonna be what is
he as a runner? Um? And I think that's what
other teams are watching too, And it's interesting because nobody
has played that position that way for that long. I think, ever,
like like I can't think of another quarterback that's lasted
as long as he's lasted playing the way that he plays,
and I, you know, I think there's a real question
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that's lingering out there across the NFL about the sort
of effect that's had on him. In fact, like you know,
somebody put it a good way to be said, with
older running backs, what happens is they go from getting
tackled to getting hit. And when they go from getting
tackled to getting hit, because they've lost this step, it's
over for them. And I know some people feel like
that's what's happened with Cam, which is where why he's
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maybe a little bit more hesitant to run than he
used to be. And if he can't run the way
he used to run, can he be what he used
to be? And what is he as an NFL player?
So I was very encouraged by what I saw in
the pocket last night. I still think a lot of
this is gonna come down to what he can be
still as a runner, as a run threat, and we're
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not going to get that for a preseason game because
the Patriots aren't going to run him, you know, eight, ten,
twelve times in a preseason setting. He is Albert Brier
from the MMQB senior NFL reporter. You can get him
on Twitter at Albert Brier. He is traveling the country
from training camp to training camp. Albert, We always appreciate it, man,
and well let's do it again next week. All right,
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glad I was scared, boys and girls. I thought he
thought I was like this enormous piece of chicken dium times.
I had starch to my space this is animal thunder Dog.
All right, and here we go, Danny g What have
we got this week? Yeah, let's start with a story
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that's been tweeted into US dozens and dozens of times
all week long. Everybody's been talking about this West Valley
City You taught trainer. She was at West Valley Scales
and Trails there in Utah and had to be taken
to the hospital after an alligator bitter and pulled her
into an enclosure and then rolled Bystanders were credited with
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pulling the woman from the enclosure and securing the alligator.
Officials from the Reptile and Bird Company said that the
gator Trainer was treated by emergency medical technicians at the
scene and taken to the hospital for treatment. This happened
as the woman was showing the reptile to a group
of adults and children this past weekend, and as she
opened the door. You guys have seen this video, the
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alligator lunges forward. She pushes it back into the enclosure
and it snaps its mouth down. With her hand caught
in its grip, she tries to free herself, stepping into
the enclosure to try to get leverage, and that's when
the gator pulled her in and began to roll. You
could see two guys jump into action this video both
dads that were there. This video shows this guy, Donnie
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Wiseman get into the water with the trainer and the alligator.
What a g She was able to direct both the guys.
She was really calm during all this. She directed both
guys on how to handle the situation. They were eventually
able to free her from the alligator's bite. The second guy,
Todd Christopher, pulled the woman to safety while Wiseman remained
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in the enclosure securing the alligator. The trainer was able
to instruct him on how to get out. He choked
that alligator out. Yeah, yeah, he was choking it out.
She instructed crocodile dundee, Hey Brady, he put that lockdown
on that gat. Here's what I think was the most
(36:37):
impressive part about this video is when he jumped into
help out. I don't think he knew he was gonna
be in there by himself though at the end of it,
he never thought about that part the hero. But then
he's like, oh wait, now I'm stuck having to hold
on at this choke, hold on this gator by myself
and this thing. How am I getting now? Man? I mean,
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if if a gator grabs onto you, aren't you taking
an eye? I'm taking an eye, Like I'm coming out
of there with an eye. He might get a limb.
I'm taking an eye. I gotta be honest. I think
about eyes. I do think about something because that let go. Yeah,
I would assume they would let That feels like the
sensitive spot for anybody. But I always say, but I
always say this, you can always talk about what your
(37:20):
plan of attack would be until it really happens, you know,
because when you're in the heat of the moment. And
that's not like this is an alligator. I thought it was.
I thought it was real. Get up to that he
started choking the alligator out. I'm not buying it. I
think it was all stunt. I'm buying it for a minute.
I'll tell you what. I'm sure he was getting all
kinds of phone numbers. If he was a single man,
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and maybe even if he was a married man, I'm
sure all kinds of people were all into him after that.
That's the thing that's a turn on. There are there
are people out there really turned on by wrestling alligators? Shockingly?
I think there's a lot of that in Florida. A
hero though, you know, a hero that saved the woman
by the way, and it wasn't another dude, which he
would have still been a hero, but it's that much
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more of a hero when you say of a lady.
Brandy's thought on that is right on because off the
air in the studio a few days ago, when we
were watching this for the first time, I told Coop,
I'm like, we'd like to think that our first reaction
would be to jump in help. But then at the end,
when you're just on the gator's back and you're in
there by yourself, like what am I doing? That's when
the dude was like, oh, like what did what did
I just do? What am I going to do? Like
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the smell like you ever smell an enclosure? Like it
smells like a wild place, like what I'm in water?
Like I can't just run away. It's not like we're
on ground. I am in water and I'm in his place.
Easy answer and nine millimeter carry that in your podets.
My concern is Peta coming out and being like, oh
he abused the he abused the alligator in someway. Has
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that not already happened? I'm sure by the way two
News Utah's reporting that the woman did suffer injuries to
her hand, obviously, but otherwise she is expected to recover.
And let's move to Australia. Helena A. Lotti was browsing
the spice ale at a supermarket there when she came
face to face with a huge snake. Sent everyone on
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the show a picture of this. I will tweet it
out at Danny G Radio. The head of a ten
foot diamond python emerged through a space in the shelf
above the spice jars in a Woolworths there. She says,
I was in the spice ayle just looking for something
to put on my chicken that night, so I didn't
initially see it because it was curled up way behind
the little jars of spices. She says, I kind of
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turned to my right and then it poked its head out. Thankfully. A.
Lotti has a background in snakes. She uh she's a
trained snake catcher. There and the irony so stupid Woolwortz.
Stupid Woolwartz confirmed in a statement that a slippery and
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rare customer was spotted in the Spice Syle at its store.
Here's the best part. Wasn't a mamba? A Lottie told
the store members. She said, I'm gonna go home really
quick and get my snake catching bag. Wait, she left,
I'm gonna take this snake on home. So she came back.
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Only in Australia. She wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm gonna
take this snake home. No, she came back with her
snake catching gears. And he's taking this way too seriously,
like I think he's missing LaFaro boy and people like this.
She then released it into the nearby woodlands. Okay, so
(40:37):
she said forget. She said, forget about everybody else who
might coming face to come. Everybody stay here. You figured
it out until I get my bag. This is in Australia, right,
Like does it like like three or four and every
five people have like they're trained snake catching license or something.
And I feel like that's one of those kind like
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that she does happen to be a snake trainer. Australia
is a wild place, Danny. Of all all the animal
Thunderdome stories, the craziest ones are Australia. Correct, like the
size of some of those spiders that people see in
their houses, like the size of buicks and they're just
hanging out in their house. Like bout those bird eating
spiders in Venezuela. They eat the entire birds to go
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to a different species. Jonas and just saying, man, way
to get away, staying away from it was part of
that Thunderdomes keep snakes away from La bar Everybody. It's this.
This is out kick the coverage. A little over ten
(41:41):
minutes from now. We are going to have the scraps.
Some things in the world of sports we've not had
a chance to get to before we get to this
developing story in the world of college football. I did
want to just bring this up because I knew we
were talking about it before the show. The injury to
Carl Lawson Um with the New York Jets. That's a
bad because that was that was the guy Brady they
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that was their big pickup in free agency. It was
going to be one of their stalwarts on defense to
try and help, you know, get them back on track.
And then to lose him, you know, a couple of
weeks before the season. I feel bad for that guy. Yeah,
you know, and he's really gone from being a situational
pass rusher to a guy who I think the Jets
were relying on, you know, being there for every down,
having a huge impact on a group that that struggled
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to get after opposing passers. You know last year. A
lot of what last year was for them was they
had to bring pressure in order to get pressure. And
obviously we don't have to go through Greg Williams and
all that and how it worked out, but um, that
was one of the biggest issues. So this is a
huge loss for them, a big free agent signing. Uh
feel bad for him to obviously, you know, he's you know, LaVar,
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you can speak to this. I mean that that position,
your explosion off the balls, everything, and I feel like
that injury could greatly impact what his career looks like
moving forward. I retired when I blew mine, I retired. Uh.
It is a painful injury. It is a hard injury
to to recover from. Some guys, some guys are able
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to do it. Though. Some guys, for for one reason
or another, they're able to to overcome certain injuries. The
Achilles rupture is is that's you gotta be on some
real grown person type, yes, to to be able to
to come back from that, like when Kobe Bryant tore
his and then still shot that free throw. I mean,
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but was his I don't know that he was fully ruptured,
because I'm gonna be honest, I can't. I can't. I
can't believe it. I can't. I would not be able
to believe that a fully ruptured Achilles you could get
up and walk. Like when I blew mine out, I
could not walk like it was like it. It was
one of the worst feelings. And listen, I hadn't had
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major injuries. I had like maniss gets injuries like tears
and splits. But when I when I blew that, that
tendant when I went to get back up, and first
of all, I felt like I got hit by a car,
like just the back of my leg though, and and
then when I tried to get up. I can remember
it well. I was with the Giants and we were
playing against Dallas in in the old stadium in Texas Stadium,
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And when it happened, I thought somebody had hit me
from like a cheap shot from behind. Me and Jason
Witten were locked up and and it wasn't even like
a real struggle. We were just there and then I
felt like somebody hit me from behind. I wasn't even
moving at the time, and I could not get up
and I could not walk. Like when I could get
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up and when I went want to get up to walk,
it was no. There was no way I could put
anything on my foot, like no pressure, no anything. I couldn't.
I couldn't really feel it, you know what I mean.
So if he fully ruptured it and was able to
go still shoot, and I thought he had part truly
ruptured it, But I feel like that's one of those
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type of injuries. It's like letting the air out of
a tire, and it's like, how do you get the
air back into that tire? How does that tire actually
perform at the same because you don't in life, you
don't get to change the tire. You gotta try to
replace fix it, maybe replaced like the inside tube of
it or something. So it was it for me, though,
you just ruined Brady's Friday, sorry about he was trying
(45:26):
to feel good better about his injury and now you
just made him feel worse. And what I was gonna
say is my wife tore hers and the only reason
it wasn't as painful is because they shot her up
with tord all when she was in Tokyo, Japan for
World Championships and gymnastics, So when she popped hers, it
didn't hurt. At the time, she was surprised everyone heard
(45:46):
the snap, and so they ran over to her and they,
you know, they told her to lay down. They did
the Thompson tests and all that where they check for it,
and it wasn't until later on when the tord all
wore off where she was in excruciated bad Yeah. Yeah,
so so that that you know, I don't know if
Kobe was taking something back then that that could have
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been a potential deal too for him, if he was
taking some stuff before the game to help numb some
of that paint. Mine went right into my calf muscle too.
They had to pull that bad boy out of my cat.
Did your calf look bigger? It didn't not. It did
nothing to help the non impressiveness of of my my cast.
But the lack thereof here, um, I mean, because you
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know Brady Quinn can relate to this, I mean, you're
dealing with a little bit of an Achilles situation. Yeah,
it's always partial though it's not it's not too bad.
I can't keep playing that much. So yeah, you're dealing
with it right now, Brady, I'm walking through the slavar.
Don't give me. There are no tips. I mean, there
are no tips. You just gotta if you haven't fully
torn it, you just gotta be careful, man, because it
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could go at any time. Like it's just one of
those injuries. You can you know, buy time with it,
like you can't go out and play basketball or try
to go you know, do some you know, certain type
of like exercise you're talking to, right, this guy's a meathead, alright,
Like he's gonna get out there and he's gonna do
something like that. It's just gonna happen. I mean, I
(47:10):
probably after that cigar and and a few drinks, that's
when something stupid people would most likely be be happening.
All I know is we need to clip this part
of the segment and put it in the archive. Foul,
because if you happen to do some wild s and
you come back and you say, guess what, guys, I
toward as bad boy, Like I just want us to
(47:32):
have this segment. I want to go on record and saying,
don't do anything overstrain stranguous to that Achilles because you
can't hear it, doesn't it doesn't heal. A tear is
a tear, right, So it's like you don't heal it.
You just gotta deal with it, all right, You don't
want to fill that, bro cover it up. In twelve
minutes from now here on fs are we are going
(47:53):
to have the scraps some things in the world of
sports and beyond and beyond that we have not had
a chance to get to that will be happening here
to minutes from now here on out kick the coverage. Uh.
This from Nicole hour Back, who covers college football for
The Athletic. The Big Ten, Pack twelve and a c
C are expected to make a formal announcement about their
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alignment soon, perhaps as early as next week. Um. She
goes on to say, and this has been a discussion
as to whether or not this was going to happen,
because this was going to be their CounterPunch to, you know,
the the SEC getting Oklahoma in Texas. But she goes
on to say, and I thought this was interesting that
outside of just the scheduling between these conferences. There is
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hope within all three leagues that their commissioners will align
to delay the implementation of an expanded college football playoff.
So there's the there's the counter to what Brady the
SEC did by getting Oklahoma in Texas new Something's gonna happen. Yeah,
And and this this is all in an effort to
I think, for the A SEC, Big ten and Pack twelve,
(49:00):
the remaining bigger conferences in the Power five, to try
to solidify their foothold if there is an expansion of
the playoff, which I think before the news of o
U Texas joining the SEC, everyone was on board. Everything
was you know, heading in that direction. But then once
ESPN SEC kind of pulled this move, then it made
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all these other Power five conferences that essentially are were
left that really have power and have a say, pump
the brakes, and then it really soured the taste of
wanting to expand to that twelve team playoff that's been proposed.
So it's a smart move by those three conferences because
I think they all know that that's where the money's
(49:44):
at is Expanding the playoff is where you can generate
more and more money, whether it's twelve teams, and if
it gets any bigger from there, they understand that they're
gonna then have a piece of that. Uh In comparison
or versus the SEC, where if the SEC continued just
to bigger and bigger and bigger by swallowing up some
of the bigger brands like oh you Texas and then
(50:05):
looking to pluck off all these other big schools like
Rubert for for example, Clemson, Florida State, Ohio State, who
they were trying to target. If the if the big
ten A, C, C and Patrol can stop, that may
maintain their foothold with the bigger brands that they have,
they will have a seat at the negotiation table with
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the SEC, because right now, outside of Alabama, I think
you'd maybe say Georgia uh L s U who has
won recently, although I'm kind of curious to see what
happens with them this year, Oh you Texas, maybe Florida.
How many other brands of the SEC are you really
buying into? Are going to be overly competitive at least
in the near future. I mean, hello, are you forgetting
(50:49):
about the Cox South Carolina? I mean there, I actually
never think about they are They are back. They are back,
and you put some respect on their now him and
and I'm calling it right now. They're gonna win the
Palmetto Bowl against you. Yeah, that's the team I used
to cover, Like, yeah, of course I want them to
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do well. Well they do well, Probably not, but um,
this that just goes to show you the power of
the SEC, the fact that it's going to take all
three of these conferences just to delay because they're one
of the she goes on to say in the article
Nicole Auerback. She says um that the athletic directors and
all three leagues have can have expressed concerns over the
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composition of the four member working group that proposed the
twelve team format and treated it as an inevitability without
hearing from any representatives of the three leagues. So because
these are all three new commissioners, they felt like, we
gotta figure out some way to be a part of
this dance. Because to to what Brady said, I mean,
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what are we looking at if Oklahoman Texas are in
the SEC, how many of the top twelve teams would
be SEC teams, like seven or half at least. But
but now you are effectively isolating the rest of the
field of teams that are not as big a brands.
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And and now you're forcing you're forcing a new conversation
to have to take place because once you start talking
about because this makes no mistake about this is all
about the TV money, right, these are TV deal deals
that they're working towards. And so when you talk about
putting it all together and and making it makes sense
(52:33):
that way, you know, because ultimately when you think about
who's getting into the college playoff to begin with, that's
that's been a huge conversation, and it's all connected to
you're looking at how many SEC teams are able to
go into the playoffs even with losses or maybe even
not even you know, having having more losses than other
teams that may have people felt were qualified to to
(52:55):
make it to the player I can remember when we
won the Big Ten and we didn't get light it
to the college playoff. Um, there was a lot of
stink about that. There was a lot of things raised
about how does a team that wins the Big Ten
conference not making into the college playoff, but a team
that didn't win their conference is in the playoff? You know,
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so that you you start to have weird little debates
that take place. But if you can start to consolidate
those those teams, those major brands, and and you're able
to control that, then now you're able to control more
of the television money and the revenue shares and different
things like that. So it's gonna be interesting because while
you can understand how it may play out for the
(53:38):
bigger brand teams, what is this going to mean for
the rest of these these colleges that are out there?
And almost you would almost have to assume that the
smaller schools out there are going to have to now
start aligning with one another to create almost the same
exact parallel type of leagues to be able to have
(53:59):
their own that it's their own playoff, their own ranking system,
and and be able to leverage it that way. If
all of this takes place, and what's gonna happen the
Big twelve? Like seriously, so the big twelves just out
like just sorry, like odd man out. You know, there's
not nothing we can't do anything for you. These three conferences,
the Pack twelve, Big ten, A CEC are gonna are
gonna pair up our team up together. You've got the
(54:21):
SEC who doesn't need anybody, and so the big twelves
just listen. I think there's one answer in all this, Brady,
make a couple of calls, tell Notre Dame to join
the Big twelve. Save that conference. Save the conference, Brady,
I don't know what's gonna happen to it. And I
don't know that you're gonna see any of the other
conferences necessarily, you know, break apart or join up together
to make these super conferences. Uh, they've just gotten the
(54:43):
route of creating alliances so that there is set in
stone or at least on paper, Uh, the idea of
of how this expanded playoff is going to work out.
And these three conferences that obviously spanned the entire country
right the SEC is just the region right now. And
I think they're trying to flex their power collectively as
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those three, as you guys point out with with three
new commissioners and say, hah, you're you're not gonna pull
this over our heads. And so I think it's a
smart move. And I think it's a wise move too
as they move forward towards expansion. I don't think that
they want the SEC or even ESPN to be able
to have that much control or that much power over
the playoff. I mean, let's just look at the model
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of the NFL okay, which has continually looked at other
ways of driving revenue. And so you've got your broadcast rights,
your your TV broadcast rights, which you've got three different
networks on Sundays that are displaying and have paid for
the rights to the NFL obviously CBS with the with
the a f C, Fox with the NFC, and then
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Sunday Night Football for NBC. Then you've got ESPN on
Monday Night Football, which is you know, a fourth separate
deal ABC cable network, but ABC may start broadcasting that.
And that's not even including digital streaming rights. So if
I'm college football, if I'm all three of those conferences
we discussed and the SEC, I should be thinking more
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bigger picture, like do we really want just ESPN being
the one who's going to control the college football players,
especially if it expands to to twelve or however many teams,
or do we want more people bidding for this? Do
we want more players involved? From a broadcast and cable
standpoint and streaming services standpoint, they probably stand to make
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more money that way. And I think That's one of
the other reasons to where that you've got to be
careful about getting in bed too much with one particular
network because then you really don't have any negotiating rights
unless you want to start bringing in other people. Think
about the Big East. You had Temple, Rutgers, Miami, Virginia, Tech,
West Virginia, and and and and at one point Notre
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Dame was really deep off into the Big East. Think
about where the Big East conferences. Now, that's what's gonna
happen to these other conferences. If you want to know
what's what's about to happen after what you just listen
to Brady say, look at what look up and look
at the history of what happened to the Big East Conference.
That's what's about to happen to these other ones. I
missed the BCS. Let's just bring it back, all right?
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It is that that's the point scoring, Yeah, it is. OK.
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Oh yeah, god, Brady, I didn't know you like the
song that much? What movie? Come on a little movie?
What movie? What's the first thing that comes to mind? Friday? Friday? Friday?
I didn't want I didn't want you how to get stuck?
I don't want to lose any listeners because yeah missed
this one. Listen. I'm a Players Club fan myself, one
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of the most underrated comties. I cannot be mad at
you for liking Players Club. By the way, I didn't
even know if it's intended to be a comedy, but
I don't know that it was either. But what if
cast Bernie mack is so oh my god God. I
wish I could say, but I can't. Dollar Bill, Yeah,
dollar Bill, who the hell are you talking to? He
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talking to your ass? I love Bernie mac Man. Alright,
so um it is out kicked the coverage here Fox
Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington Jonas knocks Brady Quim with you
here on fs are coming up in a little over
ten minutes from now. There are two ways to handle
h fights at training camp in practice, and you're gonna
hear from two coaches because they had completely opposite views
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on how this should be handled. We'll have that for
here ten minutes from now on fs are, um gotta
handle it like a man. Yeah, well, you know, according
to uh somebody in the a f C West, maybe
not so much. You know. Just here's the I'm not
trying to start any sort of scandalous uh, you know,
a betting allegation or anything like that. I'm just simply
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gonna point out some facts. Okay, okay, anybody want to
tell me what the hell happened to Jalen Hurts last night?
And while he didn't play, Oh, he had a stomach virus.
He said he was, Yeah, all of a sudden, got
a stomach virus, like right before kickoff. They sent him
when they made sure it wasn't the big Yeah, we're
sure that's not bubble guts though, him just being a
little nervous or something. I don't know. But they were
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able to take a pepsi this morning. That is stupid.
And let me tell you something I was. I was
having a couple of moments in the parking lot before
I came in here. I will not tell a lie.
You know, some people go outside to smoke cigarettes. I
was outside just you know, yeah, I was letting a ride.
I mean I had to hit the seven eleven. I
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was like, why did I not take a pepsil when
I got up? That's that's very gentlemanly of you, though.
It's like some people would bring that right right on in,
not even Cara and just walking with it too, like
like everywhere you go, like, oh yeah, where is that
trail plane? It's wrapped around me like a mummy, just
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a mummy of gas. We were driving. I was driving
home yesterday. My kids was like, what is that. I
was like, that's a skunk. Something probably got hit. My
mom had sushi and left in the car. I tell you,
if you all see one did on the road. Something
is walking around. So it was it was the weed.
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Here's uh here, here's my point on this, on this
Jalen hurts thing. So Nick Sirianni comes out afterwards, Well,
you know, we took him to the hospital's precaution. He
didn't have COVID, but I had a little bit of
a stomach issue. It's like, okay, but every report out
there said he was out there pregame warmups. He was excited,
he was jumping around, fired up, getting ready to go,
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and then then the business happened in his pants. It
was over, okay, but the night was over. You didn't
have a change of pants for him. Listen, everybody listening,
everybody listening here has had that accident happened before. Nobody's
gone to the hospital, not one single person who's had
to go to the hospital. All. It just doesn't add
up to me. And here's the part that also I
feel for if you bet on that game last night.
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First of all, if you're betting on the NFL preseason,
you got problems to begin with. Secondly, okay, well I
didn't better, but I don't know, but I was. I
was on the air when I saw something happen to
the line. So we were on straight out of Vegas
yesterday and about an hour and a half before kickoff,
the betting line was New England as a favorite. Within
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the next hour, Philadelphia jumped and became a one and
a half to two point favorite, which is a significant
line move on a preseason game. So we were talking
about in the air, like something must be up, there's
gotta be is there a late scratch or whatever, only
to find out it was Jalen Hurts who got scratched
from Philadelphia. So if you're one of those people that
jumped on the Eagle betting bandwagon last night because you
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felt like, oh man, I'm onto something. The line is moving,
only to have Jalen Hurts may or may not have
craft his pants before the game and that's why he
got pulled from the lineup, you got to be just
absolutely distraught right now, Brady, absolutely distraught. And I feel
for you, Brady, because I know you bet on Philly.
Not trust me, I'm not betting on preseason football games.
It just it doesn't end up. So what did it
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open out? What did it close out? Okay, it opened
with the Patriots like a one and a half to
two point favorite something like that. Then about an hour
before kickoff, they were still a slight favorite, and then
thirty minutes before kickoff, the Eagles were a one and
a half to two point favorite. That's a lot of
line movement in sixty minutes, only to find out that
the starting quarterback is out and I think they were
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finished from there. We we talked about the game, they
were not. That doesn't That doesn't even make any sense.
Why would it swing in the favor of Philly? That
apart doesn't make any sense. But I thought was going
to be the guy on the show yesterday that Flacco isn't.
We talked about that on this very so he was
scratched after all the line move so it's it's almost
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like some but he got bad info and jumped on
it and said, oh my god, you know I'm onto
something here. The Patriots or are planning this or the
Eagles have got this plan and next thing you know,
he gets a late scratch. I guarantee you there are
people out there and Nick Sirianni. Nick Sirianni's gonna is
gonna have to answer some questions because they're gonna be
people who because this Italian is got the case, it's
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not the case. How I racist didn't make it. I
cheered for Italy in the euro I cheered for Italy
in the Europe. You know how Jonas would have bet
last night's game. Okay, he would have. He would have
saw the movement hopped on the bandwagon, taking the egos,
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taking the Eagles at a point, yes, and then he
would have lied even through third was going back. Yeah,
that's how he bet. He never just says, okay, I
started hedging the other in. Any any guy, any guy listening,
as we keep in the theme of potty talk in
the segment, any guy listening to this right now knows
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when you've really got to use a go number one
and you and waiting a while, and you've been on
a long road trip. Nobody just goes in there and
does half and says I'll get the other half later. No, no, no,
it's all coming out. You were getting all of it out.
And and if I'm betting on that last night, I'm
going no, no, no no, no, I'm not just gonna bet
the game on Philadelphia. I'm gonna ride them all the
way through on the way out. Yeah, And I want
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to lost significance amount of money. But I do believe
that Nick Sirianni is going to have to answer questions
from the NFL because they're gonna say, hey, when did
you know that Jalen Hurtzel is not going to be
a part of this. And and if the NFL wants
to partner up with gambling and all this stuff, and
I mean this seriously, like like they are going to
have to work with these companies to realize if you
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start to alienate a significant amount of your fan base,
that that provides a bunch of incoming, a bunch of
income going into the NFL for years to come, and
try to build these relate ation chips. You gotta be
on the up and up. And it felt like Nick
Sirianna wasn't on the up and up last night. And
you said because he's Italian, That's not what I said
that I thought my micros off. I'm telling you, if
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he had to do that to an Italian person, I'm
watching him very closely for my own personal interests. You
did what I'm saying, if you dig what I mean,
if you're picking up he does bring up a good point.
And because Lavore, we we've talked a lot about the
Texans situation, and like the NFL not I'm not saying
they need to interject, but if he's on the example list,
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the Texans know what the deal is. Deshan knows what
the deal is, and any team looking at trade for
him knows what the deal is. So so I gotta
look at this and I think to myself, like, that's
another scenario where if I'm a gambling outfit and or
I'm a partner, because there are you know now partners,
especially with some of these teams and those majors, maybe
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the biggest partners, they need clarity, like they need clarity
with these situations, especially when it's in the NFL's con roll.
So Jonas, I think you're onto something aside from the
Italian thing. I think reckless accusation. You're not going to
be able to go on to certain places. Okay. So
a couple of years ago, a couple of a couple
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of years ago, the Dolphins got got and not in
There was an investigation that was done because Ryan Tannehill
was a full participant in practice uh leading up to
a game, and then two days later he was ruled
out for the week and there was no update to
his injury designation. And so the NFL talk to the
Dolphins and said, hey, you like, what is going on here?
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How does he go from full participant, no injury reported
to next thing you know he's out because and there's
been other examples Todd Gurley. We never got clarity on
Todd Gurley's knee, like we never got a true clarity
on that. Yeah, And and it's the part of the
reason why Belichick put Tom Brady on the injury or
poor for years with the shoulder issue is because they
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didn't report an injury and the Patriots got a talking
to and that was then. Nowadays, you gotta be totally transparent,
and I don't think that they were last night. And
people are gonna dismiss it, like, oh well, it's just
a preseason game, dude, people bet on these preseason games.
You'll know how. I know the line moved two points
in an hour like that. It's a significant amount of movement.
And there's some people that are gonna be piste off.
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You sound upset. Listen, I didn't have money on the game.
Maybe you didn't have money out of the game, but
you sound very upset, like this could this could impact
you and the future. This needs to be addressed now
before you are the recipient of being upset from something
like this. Taking time, you're being proactive instead of reacting.
A couple of few years ago. Remember when Tony Romo
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got in trouble because he had some fantasy football convention
I wanted to put on, Yeah, and the NFL said no, no, No,
that's because gambling was so taboo. And then all of
a sudden, much like the weed and much like booze
and prohibition, when people were trying more acceptable because you
can make money off it, right, And and the NFL
knows it can make money. Yeah, but it knows it
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can make money, and I don't. I've heard, I've watched movies. Yeah,
I mean listen, that is the report. But the NFL
knows it can make money off gambling. If you're if
you're gonna partner with them, you gotta be on the
up and up and and there's gonna be situations and
they already have been where people have not been on
the up and up about about players being made available
and when they're supposed to announce the and make these decisions.
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And the fact that he was pulled that soon before
kickoff screwed a lot of people over. A lot of
people got jobbed, got the chaft. Well, I know you're
concerned about that, damn right. I'm more concerned about we
talked about the Patriots like previewing that that matchup last night.
Did anything Cam Newton or Mac Jones? Did that change
your perspective on what you think it's gonna happen once
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they get into the regular season. No, it just solidified it.
Matt Jones just got zero chance to be in the
starting quarterback in New England. He's got zero chance. But
I like the way he played. He played man. I mean,
if you're New England, you gotta feel good your line blocked.
I mean, here's the thing though, Yeah, that doesn't look
like a guy who can tell you that right now?
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That was weird. Um. Listen, I thought that Mac Jones,
if anything, show that he is legit in terms of
being one of the first guys one the only guy.
I think he's like the only dude that that it's
been taken in the first round by Bill Belichick in
the draft. I mean, if I don't know, we could
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check the record on that. But listen, but Cam, you
gotta give props where props or do? It's it's a
preseason game. It's still preseason. But you what you don't
want to do is look like what Philly looked like, right?
You don't. You don't want to look horribly bad. You
you don't have to look good, man, you don't just
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you you don't have to look great or phenomenal in preseason.
You just don't have to look horrible. And that's the thing, like,
you don't look horrible, and and they didn't look horrible.
So listen, you gotta be feeling good. Their line block well,
they had a running attack that was that was present.
They were physical, They seemed to be really executing well, Brady.
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I mean, when I saw it, it just looked like
this was vintage vintage New England Patriot offense style of offense.
You mixed some good crossing routes. You you had some
some nice you know, reads to the outside with your
runs somewhere downhill and between the tackles. I thought it
was really nice to me. I thought the balance was there.
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I thought it was good. And both quarterbacks looked to
be very confident in what it was that they were doing. Yeah,
the only thing I don't know is how you know,
Philly approached this game versus how New England did. And
obviously Hurts not being a part of it, maybe that
played an impact. But you know, we talked a little
bit yesterday too about you we only got three preseason games.
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Now we don't have four. If there was a game
that was going to be the dress rehearsal, I think
last night was it and looked like it. And I
remember being with Josh and Denver back in two thousand
and ten and how he prepared that were going into
that third preseason game like it was. Once we got
in the regular season, I was like, Oh, yeah, this
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is legit, this is what he's looking for, this is
what he wants. And I'm not saying he pulled out
his best stuff, but there's definitely some more game planning.
You could definitely you could tell that, you know, Philly
wasn't necessarily trying to do everything they could do offensively,
not that they had. You know, again, they're starting quarterback,
but still even with the backups, and you're like, all right,
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maybe this looks a little bit different that they're playing.
In the course of the regular season, New England was
just icing them up. They were kind of like, Hey,
this is working, this is working. We're gonna call this.
We're gonna call this because in my opinion, I think
Josh is one of the better play callers, designer of plays,
if you will, and he can figure out how to
get to whatever he wants from whatever personnel grouping from
all that prestep you know, most and shifts and all
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that stuff. And they didn't do a ton of that
last night, but they could show a little bit of
what they're gonna do in the regular season and not
give away too much because I think how creative McDaniels is,
so that was on display a little bit too. Is
just the difference in preparation, and I think how the
Patriots handled that versus how Philly handled that. Do you
think if Denver didn't go the way that it did
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for Josh McDaniels, he would get more love as being
a great play caller like Chile Shannon Shaw. You know
what's crazy is his So obviously the first year he
got there, they start off six and oh, they're like
the hottest team in the NFL in two thousand and nine,
and then they finished two and eight. And what happened
over that second half is it was the oddest thing.
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You know, some of the local media picked up on
him on the sidelines. He's a fiery guy, right like
he's from the Bill Belichick Tree, he's an Ohio guy.
He's got he's got a little you know, irish anger
to him and all that he'd be exploding on the
side wherever we had on the board, Man, come on,
because you not by man. I can't believe that I
(16:10):
got irish people my U triggered, right, We tend to
be very quickly unbelievable self. That was self take. He
was using some foul language and that sidelines relatively close
media fans. People got a little bit of it. And
when people got irritated, they got irritated like he was irritated.
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They got like it was it was almost as if
like no, no, no, that's not what we want out
of our head coach. Like our head coach doesn't talk
like that, doesn't act like that. They literally started to
like build up this anger against him. And I don't
know if it was so much to how the media
took him, because again I don't think it was fair Brady.
I'm like the way he he was handled. I thought
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it was like, well, we're very premature, and how how
that was and he was really for now because of
public opinion if you asked me, well, that was part
of it. But then the other thing was we did
get caught in London filming the San Francisco for not
his practice. There was like a spy gate, So I
think that may have added to it a little bit too.
Everybody that some people can't execute as high level of
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doing things the way as you know it happens in
New England. Big difference between London and low do you
know what I mean? Lower downtown in Denver and maybe
well just you know, never done six. Yeah, let's go.
(17:39):
Asked Brady about Tracy Morgan staying number one time he
left the president. He left the president, speaking of speaking
of Jalen Hurts, all right, it is I don't kicked
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(18:01):
Friday it is. Yeah, shots out to all the high
school teams going into war tonight. Man, Good luck to
you all, stay so safe and have a great time
out there. You've earned it. Yeah, Friday night Lights, baby starts.
I smell the popcorn and the and the cheap burgers.
They cook on the grill and man dogs so good. Yeah,
(18:24):
orange pennies and in in the uh pennies in the cartons.
You ever hear about that? Oh yeah, you can shake
them to make some noise. Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
yeah great? He didnt play at school football. You don't
get it, man, You know you ever played the game? Man?
You don't know what that world's like. I missed. I
was back in Ohio's past. What you could tell man,
like Ohio it takes their football seriously. Now LaVar knows
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you guys. Are you guys originally from Ohio? Brady, Yeah,
let me tell you something. When you when you disclosed
your dad's name yesterday and that's I was like, you
cho let me let me tell you something. You have
no choice but to be one bad mother effort when
your name is Tyrone, Bro, I mean he wasn't marine
(19:08):
in Vietnam, so yeah, real talk, bro. When you said that,
I was like, man, let me check this, Like like,
my dad's name is Tyrone. I was like, let me
check this. I went to your wicked page. I was like,
his dad's name. I said that he's a guy. That's
what I knew. I had the clarity on why you're
such a tough dude. Bro, If your dad's name is
like like, for instance, I give you a great example.
(19:29):
If your name is Mike, you gotta be tough because
it's so common. But it's like Mike, like Michael, it's tough.
But Tyrone. See, I would like to dispute that because
my brother's name is Tyrone, And what the hell happened
to me? You know what I mean? Yeah, that's that's
a very valid point. I'm totally debon. I'm really because
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I really wanted to defend you and I couldn't. Brady.
I looked looked him in his eyes. I looked in
his eyes like I have no red. You are soft.
Let me let me stop there. You have a barbed
wire on your arm. It's thorn band. Listen. I have
(20:21):
no idea, all right. I talked to uh, you know
Jimmy's tattoo and port White Amy right next to knox
Nard where they have a Cowboys training camp. Talked to
him it was his idea. You had a wild night
that day. Yeah, haven't been a mistake ever since. All right,
it is I kicked the coverage here Fox Sports Radio.
He's Levarrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Nocks with you here on
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(20:42):
of ways you can handle a training camp fight and
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and he has been traveling the country going from training
camp to training camp. I don't even need to leave
the house. I just follow him on Twitter and he
takes me all throughout the country. You have to be
a certain age to be the senior person. That means
you get paid more. To Brady it Animal Thunderdome hour.
(21:51):
I gotta know because you were at Jags training camp
earlier this week and you've been traveling around going from
from team to team, and I don't know if you
were there for the tebow stuff. I don't even want
to spend any time on that. Just the Urban Meyer
experience at the NFL level. You being an Ohio State alum,
you know Urban Meyer. Well, how do you think it's
(22:11):
translating to the practice field. From what you've seen, there's
no question there's a a college field to it, and
that it's very efficient. You see them trying to maximize
the amount of reps they're trying to get out there. Um,
they had a they had a period. I can't it
was called the difference was the name of the period,
and like every single player is getting reps all at once,
(22:35):
and in that way, it felt like college because I
know that college coaches do these sorts of things because
they've got less time, they've got more restraints of their time,
and you're seeing some of those timer strengths now coming
to the NFL. So I think Urban smart to take
some of that stuff from the college game to the
NFL game. And you know, I know this having talked
(22:57):
to him after the practice. Um, you know, he thinks
lot of that stuff is gonna translate the one thing
that he definitely has working for him here. Um, it's
a little bit different than i'd say when Chip Kelly
got to the Eagles, or when Jim Harbaugh got to
the got to the Niners, and maybe a little bit
more like when Pete Carroll got to the Seahawks. And
(23:18):
then that team is very very young, and so being
as young as they are, I think it's easier for
him to program build because those guys have less of
an idea of what it's supposed to be at the
NFL level. So he's gonna do some things that he's
taking with him from Utah, Florida, Ohio State. I think
(23:38):
the players are gonna be a little bit more accepting
of it because it's the younger group, all right. So
you had an opportunity to look at the Ravens. I
think they're an intriguing team for this year because they're
kinda at that point of where you want to see
them take the next steps out, but you're not sure
if they can take the next steps. What what was
(23:59):
your akeaways when you were able to see them up close.
Do you think this is a year that they take
a step forward? Do they stay the same, which I
don't know how that happens, or do they slide back
a little bit? Well, there are two things that stuck out,
um LaVar and I'll be honest. Like one of the
things that Um, it was a little hard to get
a read on the offense overall, just because they are
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really being up the receiver right now. A bunch of
soft tissue injuries with the receiver, so a lot of
those guys weren't out there and they were giving I
think a couple of their offensive lineman a day. Um,
they're starting tackles weren't out there, So I think it's
hard to get a read on the offense overall. That said,
you know, having talked to some of the guys, UM,
two things really stand out. They think the defense is
(24:44):
gonna be really really good. Um. You know, between you
know what they have in the secondary of guys like
Marlon Humphrey and and Marcus Teeters, and the safeties have
shown really well to Sean Elliott and Chuck Clark. Uh,
they feel like the front is going to be excellent. Um,
and you know, Brady han't covered the big tent l
last year. A dafe o a saying they think he's
(25:08):
gonna be a superstar, and so like even is the
one thing that you take away, you say, they feel
like they've got this has got a chance to be
like a vintage version of the Ravens defense. They're always good,
but they've got those upticks and they think that this
is one of those years where they're gonna get that uptick, right.
And then I think with Lamar, it's an interesting, like
(25:29):
very specific thing that the coaches are saying. Now he's
throwing a tighter spiral, and you know, it's not that
he wasn't capable of that before. It's that it's badwood
flutter at times and it was a little inconsistent, and
they've really tightened up his fundamentals and they've tightened up,
you know, some of the mechanical stuff, and he's throwing
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a tighter spiral more consistently. And it's something guys that
even just talking to the Panthers people, you know, they
were enjoying practice with the Panthers the last couple of days.
The Panthers people noticed it. So it's gonna be interesting
to see what Lamar looks like out there when you
give him his full complement of weapons, which, again, those
guys weren't out there when I was out there. Albert,
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you just mentioned you were at the Panthers camp out
Sam Donald look with this new team we were talking
about a day or two ago. Just how what exactly
does Zach Wilson bring that Sam Turtle didn't outside of,
you know, the financial commitment that the Jets would have
had to make sooner to him. But how is Donald
looking his new digs down there in Carolina? Well, I
hadn't one that it's gonna happen when he's sitting next
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to him, because Christian McCaffrey looks like he's all the
way back and so like that, I think is the
number one thing is that they're not going to be
asking the world of him. And because the Jets were
in a I would say, to put it nicely, a
difficult spot from a personnel standpoint on offense, when Sam
was there, he had to carry the offense and the
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Panthers aren't gonna ask him to do that. So that's
the first thing. The other thing that's sort of interesting
that I've picked up and and I I won't be
able to take this the right way like the Panthers.
Panthers at people who've talked to Adam Gaze about what
went wrong with Sam Donald. Now you know, some people
might say, well, why would you talk to Gaze about it? Well,
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Adam knows exactly what went wrong, you know, And so
I think it's sort of been helpful for the Panthers
people to talk to Adam. And Adam has been very,
very i think, honest with them about where he messed up,
where some of the things maybe didn't go quite right.
And so I think the Panthers feel like because they've
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been you know, like sort of taking a really hard
look at what went wrong with the Jets, not just
from personnel standpoint, but with him personally. Um, they've been
able to do some things to make Sam more comfortable,
like don't give him long play calls, like get him
playing fast. And as a result, what they've seen in
camp and we'll see if it translates to the games,
is that he's seeing things faster now than he did before. So,
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and I'm talking about back in O t A s
like it's it's come along that fast. So they've seen
some positive things, and I think using Adam Gaze as
a resource, it's actually helped the Panthers in a certain way.
He's Albert Breer of the mm QB, senior NFL reporter,
joining us here on out Kicked the coverage here Fox
Sports Radio, Jonas Knox, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quimby here on
FS are um the Titans. I don't know what the
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hell to make of the Titans because I keep thinking, oh, well,
you know the Indianapolis culture, you know, are the team
to be. We all know that that Houston's got no
shot and Jacksonville is sort of rebuilding and trying to
change the culture. The Titans at Julio Jones you got
to see them up close and personal. I don't know
how much of Julio you got to watch, But how
impressive could this offense be this upcoming season? I mean,
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the offense is gonna be the problem and the oven
is gonna be fine. Um. I picked up an interesting
number when I was there, which it's kind of like
an obscure thing, but I thought I was I thought
it was fascinating, Like I didn't know this, but I
guess before last year, no team that had like a
worse than fifty third down conversion rate on defense and
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never made the playoffs before, and the Titans did it
last year, Like they were worse than I think they
were fifty two on third down, So like sort of
tells you how they've used their offense to like mask
some of the problems on defense and how much work
they had to do on defense. And so I think,
like the with the Titans, it really sort of comes
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down to some really simple stuff, which is can make
cover and where's the pass rush? Um, that's how they're
gonna be better against you know, the task, how they're
gonna be better on third down and so um, you know,
you simplify things. I think with them, where all of
our attention was on Julio and you know what where
the offense could go with all this and where Ryan
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Tannehill is going into year three there and all that
stuff and that stuff that's important, you know, But I
think like there's a feeling there that the offense was
gonna be fine, you know, regardless of who they added whatever. Like,
the offense is in a good place, especially with Taylor
la Wan coming back at left tackle. It's really gonna
come down to the work they did in trying to
bolster the task rush and bringing in Bud Dupree and
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then almost completely turning over the corner position um and
bringing in guys like Caleb Farley from Virginia Tech, um
like Norris jenkins Um, and then getting Christian Fulton, who
looks like a different player going into year two. So
I think really what the Titans is gonna come down
to just a couple of things, which is is that
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edge position correct where it needs to be and is
a corner position where it needs to be If it is,
and they're really well rounded team, and I think they're
dangerous in the a f C. If it isn't, I
don't think there's a whole lot better than they were
last year. Oh my, My last question for you would
be watching cam last night. There are a lot of
things that you could take away from the game, and
you don't have to put too much weight on the
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performance in general because obviously it's preseason. But one thing
you can a definitively is he moved well. He looked
good in terms of his movement, He stepped up in
the pocket well, he looked crisp, he looked like healthy,
He looked like, actually, uh, Cam Newton last night? Can
you expand on that, Like, what was the feeling of
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that um and covering that? I mean, I LaVar like
I think it. Brady be more qualified to talk about
this than me, But I just thought the pocket movement
in general, and I'm not talking about running um. I
think the pocket movement in general was so much better.
And I don't know what happened. I don't know what
Josh did with him over the last week, but I
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mean this week a lot last week too. This week,
you know what he looked like in camp to what
he looked like in the game last night, It just
looked different and definitely different than last year because the
problem last year wasn't that he couldn't run as much.
It was that he wasn't moving in the pocket. He'd
stand there and get hit. And so I think that's
a really encouraging sign um now, like to me, like
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a big part of this is gonna be what is
he as a runner? Um? And I think that's what
other teams are watching too, And it's interesting because nobody
has played that position that way for that long. I think, ever,
like like I can't think of another quarterback that's lasted
as long as he's lasted playing the way that he plays,
and I, you know, I think there's a real question
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that's lingering out there across the NFL about the sort
of effect that's had on him. In fact, like you know,
somebody put it a good way to be said, with
older running backs, what happens is they go from getting
tackled to getting hit. And when they go from getting
tackled to getting hit, because they've lost this step, it's
over for them. And I know some people feel like
that's what's happened with Cam, which is where why he's
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maybe a little bit more hesitant to run than he
used to be. And if he can't run the way
he used to run, can he be what he used
to be? And what is he as an NFL player?
So I was very encouraged by what I saw in
the pocket last night. I still think a lot of
this is gonna come down to what he can be
still as a runner, as a run threat, and we're
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not going to get that for a preseason game because
the Patriots aren't going to run him, you know, eight, ten,
twelve times in a preseason setting. He is Albert Brier
from the MMQB senior NFL reporter. You can get him
on Twitter at Albert Brier. He is traveling the country
from training camp to training camp. Albert, We always appreciate it, man,
and well let's do it again next week. All right,
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glad I was scared, boys and girls. I thought he
thought I was like this enormous piece of chicken dium times.
I had starch to my space this is animal thunder Dog.
All right, and here we go, Danny g What have
we got this week? Yeah, let's start with a story
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that's been tweeted into US dozens and dozens of times
all week long. Everybody's been talking about this West Valley
City You taught trainer. She was at West Valley Scales
and Trails there in Utah and had to be taken
to the hospital after an alligator bitter and pulled her
into an enclosure and then rolled Bystanders were credited with
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pulling the woman from the enclosure and securing the alligator.
Officials from the Reptile and Bird Company said that the
gator Trainer was treated by emergency medical technicians at the
scene and taken to the hospital for treatment. This happened
as the woman was showing the reptile to a group
of adults and children this past weekend, and as she
opened the door. You guys have seen this video, the
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alligator lunges forward. She pushes it back into the enclosure
and it snaps its mouth down. With her hand caught
in its grip, she tries to free herself, stepping into
the enclosure to try to get leverage, and that's when
the gator pulled her in and began to roll. You
could see two guys jump into action this video both
dads that were there. This video shows this guy, Donnie
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Wiseman get into the water with the trainer and the alligator.
What a g She was able to direct both the guys.
She was really calm during all this. She directed both
guys on how to handle the situation. They were eventually
able to free her from the alligator's bite. The second guy,
Todd Christopher, pulled the woman to safety while Wiseman remained
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in the enclosure securing the alligator. The trainer was able
to instruct him on how to get out. He choked
that alligator out. Yeah, yeah, he was choking it out.
She instructed crocodile dundee, Hey Brady, he put that lockdown
on that gat. Here's what I think was the most
(36:37):
impressive part about this video is when he jumped into
help out. I don't think he knew he was gonna
be in there by himself though at the end of it,
he never thought about that part the hero. But then
he's like, oh wait, now I'm stuck having to hold
on at this choke, hold on this gator by myself
and this thing. How am I getting now? Man? I mean,
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if if a gator grabs onto you, aren't you taking
an eye? I'm taking an eye, Like I'm coming out
of there with an eye. He might get a limb.
I'm taking an eye. I gotta be honest. I think
about eyes. I do think about something because that let go. Yeah,
I would assume they would let That feels like the
sensitive spot for anybody. But I always say, but I
always say this, you can always talk about what your
(37:20):
plan of attack would be until it really happens, you know,
because when you're in the heat of the moment. And
that's not like this is an alligator. I thought it was.
I thought it was real. Get up to that he
started choking the alligator out. I'm not buying it. I
think it was all stunt. I'm buying it for a minute.
I'll tell you what. I'm sure he was getting all
kinds of phone numbers. If he was a single man,
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and maybe even if he was a married man, I'm
sure all kinds of people were all into him after that.
That's the thing that's a turn on. There are there
are people out there really turned on by wrestling alligators? Shockingly?
I think there's a lot of that in Florida. A
hero though, you know, a hero that saved the woman
by the way, and it wasn't another dude, which he
would have still been a hero, but it's that much
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more of a hero when you say of a lady.
Brandy's thought on that is right on because off the
air in the studio a few days ago, when we
were watching this for the first time, I told Coop,
I'm like, we'd like to think that our first reaction
would be to jump in help. But then at the end,
when you're just on the gator's back and you're in
there by yourself, like what am I doing? That's when
the dude was like, oh, like what did what did
I just do? What am I going to do? Like
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the smell like you ever smell an enclosure? Like it
smells like a wild place, like what I'm in water?
Like I can't just run away. It's not like we're
on ground. I am in water and I'm in his place.
Easy answer and nine millimeter carry that in your podets.
My concern is Peta coming out and being like, oh
he abused the he abused the alligator in someway. Has
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that not already happened? I'm sure by the way two
News Utah's reporting that the woman did suffer injuries to
her hand, obviously, but otherwise she is expected to recover.
And let's move to Australia. Helena A. Lotti was browsing
the spice ale at a supermarket there when she came
face to face with a huge snake. Sent everyone on
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the show a picture of this. I will tweet it
out at Danny G Radio. The head of a ten
foot diamond python emerged through a space in the shelf
above the spice jars in a Woolworths there. She says,
I was in the spice ayle just looking for something
to put on my chicken that night, so I didn't
initially see it because it was curled up way behind
the little jars of spices. She says, I kind of
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turned to my right and then it poked its head out. Thankfully. A.
Lotti has a background in snakes. She uh she's a
trained snake catcher. There and the irony so stupid Woolwortz.
Stupid Woolwartz confirmed in a statement that a slippery and
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rare customer was spotted in the Spice Syle at its store.
Here's the best part. Wasn't a mamba? A Lottie told
the store members. She said, I'm gonna go home really
quick and get my snake catching bag. Wait, she left,
I'm gonna take this snake on home. So she came back.
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Only in Australia. She wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm gonna
take this snake home. No, she came back with her
snake catching gears. And he's taking this way too seriously,
like I think he's missing LaFaro boy and people like this.
She then released it into the nearby woodlands. Okay, so
(40:37):
she said forget. She said, forget about everybody else who
might coming face to come. Everybody stay here. You figured
it out until I get my bag. This is in Australia, right,
Like does it like like three or four and every
five people have like they're trained snake catching license or something.
And I feel like that's one of those kind like
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that she does happen to be a snake trainer. Australia
is a wild place, Danny. Of all all the animal
Thunderdome stories, the craziest ones are Australia. Correct, like the
size of some of those spiders that people see in
their houses, like the size of buicks and they're just
hanging out in their house. Like bout those bird eating
spiders in Venezuela. They eat the entire birds to go
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to a different species. Jonas and just saying, man, way
to get away, staying away from it was part of
that Thunderdomes keep snakes away from La bar Everybody. It's this.
This is out kick the coverage. A little over ten
(41:41):
minutes from now. We are going to have the scraps.
Some things in the world of sports we've not had
a chance to get to before we get to this
developing story in the world of college football. I did
want to just bring this up because I knew we
were talking about it before the show. The injury to
Carl Lawson Um with the New York Jets. That's a
bad because that was that was the guy Brady they
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that was their big pickup in free agency. It was
going to be one of their stalwarts on defense to
try and help, you know, get them back on track.
And then to lose him, you know, a couple of
weeks before the season. I feel bad for that guy. Yeah,
you know, and he's really gone from being a situational
pass rusher to a guy who I think the Jets
were relying on, you know, being there for every down,
having a huge impact on a group that that struggled
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to get after opposing passers. You know last year. A
lot of what last year was for them was they
had to bring pressure in order to get pressure. And
obviously we don't have to go through Greg Williams and
all that and how it worked out, but um, that
was one of the biggest issues. So this is a
huge loss for them, a big free agent signing. Uh
feel bad for him to obviously, you know, he's you know, LaVar,
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you can speak to this. I mean that that position,
your explosion off the balls, everything, and I feel like
that injury could greatly impact what his career looks like
moving forward. I retired when I blew mine, I retired. Uh.
It is a painful injury. It is a hard injury
to to recover from. Some guys, some guys are able
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to do it. Though. Some guys, for for one reason
or another, they're able to to overcome certain injuries. The
Achilles rupture is is that's you gotta be on some
real grown person type, yes, to to be able to
to come back from that, like when Kobe Bryant tore
his and then still shot that free throw. I mean,
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but was his I don't know that he was fully ruptured,
because I'm gonna be honest, I can't. I can't. I
can't believe it. I can't. I would not be able
to believe that a fully ruptured Achilles you could get
up and walk. Like when I blew mine out, I
could not walk like it was like it. It was
one of the worst feelings. And listen, I hadn't had
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major injuries. I had like maniss gets injuries like tears
and splits. But when I when I blew that, that
tendant when I went to get back up, and first
of all, I felt like I got hit by a car,
like just the back of my leg though, and and
then when I tried to get up. I can remember
it well. I was with the Giants and we were
playing against Dallas in in the old stadium in Texas Stadium,
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And when it happened, I thought somebody had hit me
from like a cheap shot from behind. Me and Jason
Witten were locked up and and it wasn't even like
a real struggle. We were just there and then I
felt like somebody hit me from behind. I wasn't even
moving at the time, and I could not get up
and I could not walk. Like when I could get
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up and when I went want to get up to walk,
it was no. There was no way I could put
anything on my foot, like no pressure, no anything. I couldn't.
I couldn't really feel it, you know what I mean.
So if he fully ruptured it and was able to
go still shoot, and I thought he had part truly
ruptured it, But I feel like that's one of those
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type of injuries. It's like letting the air out of
a tire, and it's like, how do you get the
air back into that tire? How does that tire actually
perform at the same because you don't in life, you
don't get to change the tire. You gotta try to
replace fix it, maybe replaced like the inside tube of
it or something. So it was it for me, though,
you just ruined Brady's Friday, sorry about he was trying
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to feel good better about his injury and now you
just made him feel worse. And what I was gonna
say is my wife tore hers and the only reason
it wasn't as painful is because they shot her up
with tord all when she was in Tokyo, Japan for
World Championships and gymnastics, So when she popped hers, it
didn't hurt. At the time, she was surprised everyone heard
(45:46):
the snap, and so they ran over to her and they,
you know, they told her to lay down. They did
the Thompson tests and all that where they check for it,
and it wasn't until later on when the tord all
wore off where she was in excruciated bad Yeah. Yeah,
so so that that you know, I don't know if
Kobe was taking something back then that that could have
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been a potential deal too for him, if he was
taking some stuff before the game to help numb some
of that paint. Mine went right into my calf muscle too.
They had to pull that bad boy out of my cat.
Did your calf look bigger? It didn't not. It did
nothing to help the non impressiveness of of my my cast.
But the lack thereof here, um, I mean, because you
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know Brady Quinn can relate to this, I mean, you're
dealing with a little bit of an Achilles situation. Yeah,
it's always partial though it's not it's not too bad.
I can't keep playing that much. So yeah, you're dealing
with it right now, Brady, I'm walking through the slavar.
Don't give me. There are no tips. I mean, there
are no tips. You just gotta if you haven't fully
torn it, you just gotta be careful, man, because it
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could go at any time. Like it's just one of
those injuries. You can you know, buy time with it,
like you can't go out and play basketball or try
to go you know, do some you know, certain type
of like exercise you're talking to, right, this guy's a meathead, alright,
Like he's gonna get out there and he's gonna do
something like that. It's just gonna happen. I mean, I
(47:10):
probably after that cigar and and a few drinks, that's
when something stupid people would most likely be be happening.
All I know is we need to clip this part
of the segment and put it in the archive. Foul,
because if you happen to do some wild s and
you come back and you say, guess what, guys, I
toward as bad boy, Like I just want us to
(47:32):
have this segment. I want to go on record and saying,
don't do anything overstrain stranguous to that Achilles because you
can't hear it, doesn't it doesn't heal. A tear is
a tear, right, So it's like you don't heal it.
You just gotta deal with it, all right, You don't
want to fill that, bro cover it up. In twelve
minutes from now here on fs are we are going
(47:53):
to have the scraps some things in the world of
sports and beyond and beyond that we have not had
a chance to get to that will be happening here
to minutes from now here on out kick the coverage. Uh.
This from Nicole hour Back, who covers college football for
The Athletic. The Big Ten, Pack twelve and a c
C are expected to make a formal announcement about their
(48:13):
alignment soon, perhaps as early as next week. Um. She
goes on to say, and this has been a discussion
as to whether or not this was going to happen,
because this was going to be their CounterPunch to, you know,
the the SEC getting Oklahoma in Texas. But she goes
on to say, and I thought this was interesting that
outside of just the scheduling between these conferences. There is
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hope within all three leagues that their commissioners will align
to delay the implementation of an expanded college football playoff.
So there's the there's the counter to what Brady the
SEC did by getting Oklahoma in Texas new Something's gonna happen. Yeah,
And and this this is all in an effort to
I think, for the A SEC, Big ten and Pack twelve,
(49:00):
the remaining bigger conferences in the Power five, to try
to solidify their foothold if there is an expansion of
the playoff, which I think before the news of o
U Texas joining the SEC, everyone was on board. Everything
was you know, heading in that direction. But then once
ESPN SEC kind of pulled this move, then it made
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all these other Power five conferences that essentially are were
left that really have power and have a say, pump
the brakes, and then it really soured the taste of
wanting to expand to that twelve team playoff that's been proposed.
So it's a smart move by those three conferences because
I think they all know that that's where the money's
(49:44):
at is Expanding the playoff is where you can generate
more and more money, whether it's twelve teams, and if
it gets any bigger from there, they understand that they're
gonna then have a piece of that. Uh In comparison
or versus the SEC, where if the SEC continued just
to bigger and bigger and bigger by swallowing up some
of the bigger brands like oh you Texas and then
(50:05):
looking to pluck off all these other big schools like
Rubert for for example, Clemson, Florida State, Ohio State, who
they were trying to target. If the if the big
ten A, C, C and Patrol can stop, that may
maintain their foothold with the bigger brands that they have,
they will have a seat at the negotiation table with
(50:26):
the SEC, because right now, outside of Alabama, I think
you'd maybe say Georgia uh L s U who has
won recently, although I'm kind of curious to see what
happens with them this year, Oh you Texas, maybe Florida.
How many other brands of the SEC are you really
buying into? Are going to be overly competitive at least
in the near future. I mean, hello, are you forgetting
(50:49):
about the Cox South Carolina? I mean there, I actually
never think about they are They are back. They are back,
and you put some respect on their now him and
and I'm calling it right now. They're gonna win the
Palmetto Bowl against you. Yeah, that's the team I used
to cover, Like, yeah, of course I want them to
(51:09):
do well. Well they do well, Probably not, but um,
this that just goes to show you the power of
the SEC, the fact that it's going to take all
three of these conferences just to delay because they're one
of the she goes on to say in the article
Nicole Auerback. She says um that the athletic directors and
all three leagues have can have expressed concerns over the
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composition of the four member working group that proposed the
twelve team format and treated it as an inevitability without
hearing from any representatives of the three leagues. So because
these are all three new commissioners, they felt like, we
gotta figure out some way to be a part of
this dance. Because to to what Brady said, I mean,
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what are we looking at if Oklahoman Texas are in
the SEC, how many of the top twelve teams would
be SEC teams, like seven or half at least. But
but now you are effectively isolating the rest of the
field of teams that are not as big a brands.
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And and now you're forcing you're forcing a new conversation
to have to take place because once you start talking
about because this makes no mistake about this is all
about the TV money, right, these are TV deal deals
that they're working towards. And so when you talk about
putting it all together and and making it makes sense
(52:33):
that way, you know, because ultimately when you think about
who's getting into the college playoff to begin with, that's
that's been a huge conversation, and it's all connected to
you're looking at how many SEC teams are able to
go into the playoffs even with losses or maybe even
not even you know, having having more losses than other
teams that may have people felt were qualified to to
(52:55):
make it to the player I can remember when we
won the Big Ten and we didn't get light it
to the college playoff. Um, there was a lot of
stink about that. There was a lot of things raised
about how does a team that wins the Big Ten
conference not making into the college playoff, but a team
that didn't win their conference is in the playoff? You know,
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so that you you start to have weird little debates
that take place. But if you can start to consolidate
those those teams, those major brands, and and you're able
to control that, then now you're able to control more
of the television money and the revenue shares and different
things like that. So it's gonna be interesting because while
you can understand how it may play out for the
(53:38):
bigger brand teams, what is this going to mean for
the rest of these these colleges that are out there?
And almost you would almost have to assume that the
smaller schools out there are going to have to now
start aligning with one another to create almost the same
exact parallel type of leagues to be able to have
(53:59):
their own that it's their own playoff, their own ranking system,
and and be able to leverage it that way. If
all of this takes place, and what's gonna happen the
Big twelve? Like seriously, so the big twelves just out
like just sorry, like odd man out. You know, there's
not nothing we can't do anything for you. These three conferences,
the Pack twelve, Big ten, A CEC are gonna are
gonna pair up our team up together. You've got the
(54:21):
SEC who doesn't need anybody, and so the big twelves
just listen. I think there's one answer in all this, Brady,
make a couple of calls, tell Notre Dame to join
the Big twelve. Save that conference. Save the conference, Brady,
I don't know what's gonna happen to it. And I
don't know that you're gonna see any of the other
conferences necessarily, you know, break apart or join up together
to make these super conferences. Uh, they've just gotten the
(54:43):
route of creating alliances so that there is set in
stone or at least on paper, Uh, the idea of
of how this expanded playoff is going to work out.
And these three conferences that obviously spanned the entire country
right the SEC is just the region right now. And
I think they're trying to flex their power collectively as
(55:05):
those three, as you guys point out with with three
new commissioners and say, hah, you're you're not gonna pull
this over our heads. And so I think it's a
smart move. And I think it's a wise move too
as they move forward towards expansion. I don't think that
they want the SEC or even ESPN to be able
to have that much control or that much power over
the playoff. I mean, let's just look at the model
(55:26):
of the NFL okay, which has continually looked at other
ways of driving revenue. And so you've got your broadcast rights,
your your TV broadcast rights, which you've got three different
networks on Sundays that are displaying and have paid for
the rights to the NFL obviously CBS with the with
the a f C, Fox with the NFC, and then
(55:47):
Sunday Night Football for NBC. Then you've got ESPN on
Monday Night Football, which is you know, a fourth separate
deal ABC cable network, but ABC may start broadcasting that.
And that's not even including digital streaming rights. So if
I'm college football, if I'm all three of those conferences
we discussed and the SEC, I should be thinking more
(56:09):
bigger picture, like do we really want just ESPN being
the one who's going to control the college football players,
especially if it expands to to twelve or however many teams,
or do we want more people bidding for this? Do
we want more players involved? From a broadcast and cable
standpoint and streaming services standpoint, they probably stand to make
(56:31):
more money that way. And I think That's one of
the other reasons to where that you've got to be
careful about getting in bed too much with one particular
network because then you really don't have any negotiating rights
unless you want to start bringing in other people. Think
about the Big East. You had Temple, Rutgers, Miami, Virginia, Tech,
West Virginia, and and and and at one point Notre
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Dame was really deep off into the Big East. Think
about where the Big East conferences. Now, that's what's gonna
happen to these other conferences. If you want to know
what's what's about to happen after what you just listen
to Brady say, look at what look up and look
at the history of what happened to the Big East Conference.
That's what's about to happen to these other ones. I
missed the BCS. Let's just bring it back, all right?
(57:18):
It is that that's the point scoring, Yeah, it is. OK.
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