December 9, 2025 • 46 mins
Today on the Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, and LaVar Arrington kick things off by reacting to Notre Dame Athletic Director Pete Bevacqua’s comments about being left out of the College Football Playoff and his thoughts on the ACC. They also discuss the Broncos–Raiders controversial finish in another edition of “In Case You Missed It.” Next, they break down the Indianapolis Colts reaching out to former NFL quarterback Philip Rivers, inviting the 44-year-old to a workout as they search for help at the position. Tune in for all that and much more!
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Notre Dame athletic director, was on the Dan Patrick Show
yesterday and well, you know, he aired some grievances not
only with the college football playoff rankings, the rug being
pulled out from under him, but also with the sort
of the strategy that was implemented by the ACC.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
You know, when we sit and talk, when I talked
to Marcus, when we talked to our team.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
We don't have any good answers for that.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
So we just we're just really frustrated that we had
the rug pulled out from underneath this.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I don't know exactly when the decision was made.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
You know, we made our case, we stayed at our
point of view. But again, if you're us, we were
told from day one of the rankings that you know,
we were in and we were ninth, and then all
of a sudden, we wake up on Tuesday and we
fall below Alabama and just our heads were spinning, like,
where's the logic, where's the rationale. I have tremendous respect
for Miami, you know, the great team, great school, but
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we were mystified by the actions of the conference to attack,
you know, their biggest really business partner in football and
a member of their conference in twenty four of our
other sports. I wouldn't be honest with you if I
didn't say that they have certainly done permanent damage to
the relationship between the conference.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
In Notre Dame, we didn't.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Appreciate the fact that we were singled out repeatedly and
compared to Miami.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Not by Miami.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Miami has every right to do that, but it raised
a lot of eyebrows here that the conference was taking
shots at us, and you know, that's just not.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Something we chose to do. We wouldn't choose to do
that in the future.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
All right, So I'd like to update something quickly. I
want to update something. Yesterday we talked about the Catholics
first Convict shirt, about Catholics versus everybody, because I love
that Notre Dame's going after it all. They want it all,
ACC College Football Playoff Committee, Alabama fans, ESPN, they can
all get that work.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
I had someone asked me yesterday, They're like, you know,
how do you feel about this?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And ESPN?
Speaker 7 (03:19):
And I sat and said to myself, you know, everyone
makes this like just about Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You know, b YU got left out too.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
BYU actually had a really good case and resume to
make a case for being a part of the twelve
team playoff. No, unfortunately they lost the same team twice. Right,
they lost in Lubbock to Texas Tech. They lost them
in the Big Twelve Championship. The quarterback gets hurt earlier
in that game, so it takes away from what their
offense could have been. But I don't know, maybe maybe
Disney ESPN, maybe they have a problem with abstinence, right,
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I mean that's what both by you and outing. Maybe
Disney's got something against abstinence before marriage.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Are you saying that the lady in the elevator at
an ESPN.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
She would have been representation a ESPN at that point. Yes,
I believe that that's a fair assumption. To be more
serious in regards to the conversation, I think people have
misinterpreted somewhat of like Notre Dame's position on this, where everyone's.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Viewing it as they're whining or they're taking.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
Their ball and going home from the From the get
when we started with the college football.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Playoff, they were in.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
They were assured that they were in and then in
the final two weeks you leapfrog them with a team
that had beat them week one. So they never really
should have had Miami at behind Notre Dame at any point,
creating a false impression of where Notre Dame needed to be.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And then you look at what they did with Alabama.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Alabama did nothing to improve their case for being a
part of the College Football Playoff, having a historically poor
performance in an SEC championship game.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We've never seen a.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Team non score in an SEC championship game for three
straight quarters. They rushed for less yards than Notre Dame
did in the SEC Championship game. Let us sink in
Notre Dame did been playing the SEC Championship game. Alabama
rushed for negative three yards, and it spare me.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Who was injured. Everyone's got injuries.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Notre Dame is playing with technically three backup offensive linemen,
so spare me all that conversation where Notre Dame has
taking a stance is that we're not going to be
some pawn in.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
A TV show that serves your best interests.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
And then after you go ahead and pull the rug
from out underneath us, you're going to throw us into
some pop Tar bowl and an exhibition game and expect
us to help improve your bottom line. If you're ESPN,
I can tell you this much. I am proud as
a former Notre Dame player and alum the stance of
this team, because it was voted on by the team.
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I think a lot of people havelooked the fact that
this wasn't an administrative decision. This came from the players too.
They collectively made a decision to say, we're not going
to serve their best interest. We're gonna move forward guys
who either are moving on to the NFL, Guys.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Who maybe are moving on.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Kenny Minshee, for example, the backup quarterback once another another
opportunity somewhere else, and rightfully so, he's a hell of
a player. If I was any team looking for a
quarterback that's gonna be a start and a really good player,
I'd look at Kenny Minshe. But those guys are looking
forward to that. The staff is looking forward to the
transfer portal, building out of the roster and then making
their best run twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
But everyone else who was out there making a case
for oh, they don't. They don't get as much practice
for both time and everything.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
You think these kids can't practice, they can't go throw
seven on seven, do the things we always used to do,
regardless of the time of year, just because the coaches
aren't there. You don't think I can film it, go back,
sit with receivers, everyone and watch it.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Go watch through our film and cutups. I mean, everyone
acts like this isn't a full time job.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
For these kids, just because they're not playing an exhibition
bowl game where they're putting their bodies at risk and
potentially the team at risk if one of them gets
hurt in a meaningless game for that twenty twenty six
season where they're trying to actually go for a run
for a national championship, it's just not worth it. And
I got no problem with it.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
It's an interesting situation for certain And man, the ad
came out fire and that that was a guns of
blazing type of deal. I mean it was, I don't
want to say it was very very subtlely aggressive, because
my whole, my ole thought process coming from away from
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what he had to say, was what will be the recourse,
what will be the repercussions, what will be the next
step here? Because when you throw out biggest partner when
you throw out attacking them, you know, not feeling as
though you're on the same page. Those are fighting words,
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like nobody wants to feel like I've been left out there,
Like wait, like I just realized that, you know, I'm
at the party, but I wasn't really supposed to be
at the party. So once you realize that everybody around
you is having fun at the party and they're like,
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they weren't meant to be here at.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
The party and you figured that.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Out, what happens next, Especially if you are the reason
why the party is relevant that has a large bearing
on this. It's not like you invited somebody to the
table that it's like you can treat them as like
how people used to treat Indiana until they started coming
to the table right Like, you can't even treat Notre
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Dame as a second rate citizen.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Because they're good.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
They just played for the national title last year, so
they're your best representation outside of seeing something from you know, Clemson,
when you saw from Clemson, who else is really stepping
up to be a major player, to be a major
drawing the ACC? The ACC It could go away today
and wouldn't nobody care wouldn't nobody even care? It would
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be no different than the Big East. Like the Big
East was an amazing, prestigious conference. I can recall it,
some great teams in it, and you know what, it
went away. Don't nobody even care? The ACC could go away.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Wouldn't nobody even care?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
They go down to a power three and then now
there's only one left before it goes to a power
two conference situation where it's the SEC versus the Big Ten.
To me, I'm just curious as to how this all
plays out, because the ACC to me, is not significant
enough to do something where they would be so irrational
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or so you know, blatant in the disrespect of how
they supported or pushed or wanted to see Notre Dame
do well in this situation.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I'll put it this way too.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
I don't think anyone's under the impression that the ACC
needed to trumpet Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I don't feel that way. But I would say that
if you're the.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Conference commissioner, Jim Phillips, who by the way, is a
Notredame guy, But if you come out and say that
you actively didn't politic against Notre Dame when you went
out of the norm of playing that game on your
own ACC network, Notre Dame versus Miami week one on
repeat for like two three days straight, Like how else
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would you describe that?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Then?
Speaker 7 (10:37):
So they might not have had anyone come out and
specifically say anything, but clearly they knew what they were doing.
I mean, Jim Phillips isn't a dumb guy. Now some
might question the intelligence of that entire conference after their
conference tiebreak in scenario because it became so convoluted that
you found a five lost team playing against uv for
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your conference championship, and we would have could have solved
all this, that the ACC was smarter and realized that
if ultimately everything is about getting into the playoff, that's
going to be part of your criteria and your tie
breaking scenario head to head, and then you look at
what's the rank highest rank team in the college full
of playoff rankings.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And that would have been Miami, So it could have
been Miami versus UVA.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Miami would have most likely won, That would have taken
up that power for spot that was left open because
Duke won and instead of jam You getting in, you
would have most.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Likely had it would have been Miami, it would have
been an extra spot then for Notre.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Dame, and we're avoiding all of this, and you could
have had that partial affiliated team in Notre Dame who's
there for twenty four other sports.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
But instead they.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
Can't figure out their ass from their elbow, and so
Duke wins it, and then Duke's like, well, wait a second,
we thought if we win it, we might be in
no right, we're not part of the party.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Either, gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
I do think there will be a day where Notre
Dame could potentially look elsewhere. The Big Ten makes a
more natural fit regionally. They're already playing in the Big
Ten for hockey, but I don't know that. I mean, look,
there's a long history there. There's a long history there
between Notre Dame and what once was. You know, consider
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the Western Conference back then. A lot of people realize that,
and one of the reasons why they didn't join the
Western Conference that became the Big Ten Conference was there
actually was some anti Catholic sentiment that was going on,
and so Notre Dame ended up building up this national
following because they had to travel nationally in order to
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play games from where they were in South Bend, Indiana.
So the independence for Notre Dame is woven into the
fabric of who that university is, who we are, and
there's a reason why you know, they venture all the
way to Southern cala to play the Trojans. You know,
the history pine all of those things, you know, was
built off the fact that they were not allowed to
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be in what was once the Western Conference or the
Big Ten Conference because of their Catholic roots and their beliefs.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I mean, Big Ten would be sweet and it would
make a lot of sense. I don't know what that
entails and how that gets done. But they're the biggest team,
biggest college football team in say Chicago, and it's not
even close, Like there's nobody even in the vicinity Northwestern Illinois,
like nobody's even close to the fan based Notre Dame
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as there. So I do wonder how they get with the.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
Whole Thing's interesting to me though, Like everyone's taking potshots
too now, like oh, look at Notre Dames scheduling everything else.
It's like, well, let's just pump the brakes.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
You have to schedule like ten twelve years out. So
if you actually like then someone will say, oh, they're
playing Wisconsin and Michigan State. It's like, well, ten years ago,
you know, it's playing in the Big Ten Championship.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Who won it? Wisconsin? It was actually, well they were
playing it, Michigan State won. It's against State.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
It's like, so when they were actually scheduling this or
their schedule they can control, they looked at these teams
as like, no, these are legitimate teams.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's what we're trying to play.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
And then as far in regards to the acc affiliation,
they play five games against them here.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
They don't control that. Like they don't.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Control the fact that the Mayam Florida State's been down
Miami has just now finally gotten back and that game
in South Bend next year is going to.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Be wild as all get out versus Miami.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
But they can't control the rest of the conference and
how big the conference is, and if that conference isn't
having them play the toughest opponents. I mean, some of
it's just unfortunate too, Like Syracuse is a different team
of Steve Angelly State healthy at their quarterback position. This
year he gets hurt, season goes by the wayside. For
fran Brown. That's unfortunate, but it's football it's what it is.
But I just sit there and look at them, like, dude,
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they're trying to make USC happen. USC is the team
that's trying to screw it out of it. You listen
to pundit's guys like Colin Coward to act like they
know what the hell they're talking about, and it's like,
the reality is, look at their strength of schedule in
comparison with a lot of these other teams no name.
Strength of schedule is very compartaible ole Miss Well Miss
is a one last team that's sitting right now at.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Six in the playoff.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
I mean, the biggest issue we have in all of
college football with the ranking system, how we go about
doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
There's so many.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Inequities as far as how many conference games they play,
how many power for teams they play, how they go
about scheduling who they play when they play.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
The one thing I tell you about Notre Dame is when.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
You're an independent, you get a lot of your teams
come off buys when they play. I think one year,
like it was like two three years ago, they played
seven teams coming straight off buys.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Like is that easy? I don't care how bad the
team is they had two weeks, got.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
A better shot, You got extra time to prepare and rest.
By the way, do you guys think there's any easy
route to the College Football Playoff Championship this year?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I mean, I get James Madison and Tulane. I get
that maybe those are easy wins. But when I look
at the bracket this year, I looked at our bracket.
I looked at the bracket last season. Now was like
Penn State has a chance to do it. Oh yeah,
like that that bracket was very, very favorable. I don't
see any favorable outside of and I hate to say
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it because I mean, maybe they're good enough to compete,
But Tulane and James Madison, maybe those are the two
easier games for the power schools.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Maybe it's not.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It'll be interesting to see entertainment wise how that plays out.
But I guess I'm asking you a question. There doesn't
seem to be a clear and easy path for any
team to get direct to the championship game. If you
have competitive games, if you happen to have games that
are competitive with James Madison in Oregon and Tulane and
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Ole Miss, and if one of them were some way,
somehow able to make it out of the first round.
Does it have any legitimacy to what took place? I mean,
I know it doesn't. I know it isn't justified leaving
out out, you know, Notre Dame. But is there any
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legitimacy to it?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
That?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
That's the question I found myself asking myself.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
I mean, I don't, but you know, this is how
we form outed the brackets, so you know, jam you
gets an opportunity telling it gets an opportunity. Not gonna begrudging.
This is the format that everyone signed up for. I
do think Oregon they have the best.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Path any WHOA yeah, definitely.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
So yeah, there's if I was going to be a
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Speaker 9 (19:45):
Not a what happening in the sports world, but a
little bit of a funny thing that happened over the weekend.
It was funny for me, but for most people it wasn't.
At least the people that had the spread in the
Raiders Broncos game. It was a very interesting sting ending
NFL fans are calling for an investigation.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Actually after the BRONCOSI.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Lost his mind over well, I mean, what's the justification.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
I don't know if there is one. I think it
might have been a coincidence. But yeah, some fans are
convinced the final score doesn't tell the full picture, as
they claimed the score was fixed in the bookmakers favor
after Denver head into the game as seven and a
half point favorites. In the fourth quarter, the Broncos had
the ball on fourth and for the twenty eight yard line,
but in a surprising decision, they opted not to go
for the field goal that would have extended their lead
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to twenty seven to fourteen to make it a thirteen
point game. Instead, Denver attempted to run the ball for
no gain and the Raiders take over with under thirty
seconds from mating on the clock. And then what came
next was instead of spiking the ball, they went for
the field goal.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I mean, you got to get your refs in, you know,
those are game refs for everybody. You know.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Did they make the field goal? They did?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
They made the field there Therefore the Raiders play seven
and a half in over four and that's a cover.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
That's a cover for the d cover for the radios,
which you know you could your mind can wander. You
got a team in Vegas kick a field coal when
they're down by two scorers.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Oh you saying, well, you guys are there and you
knock on a couple of doors.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I mean, LaVar, how are you if you watch your offense?
Yea down? What ten? Yes? Kick a field goal with
what was the four seconds left in the kick? Why
would you kick a field goal? Exactly?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
People are saying that they kicked a field goal so
that if there was enough time on the clock, so.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
They tke it onside kick and you throw the hail
marry four seconds.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
It's like, I know so so I actually that Eric
Mangini introduced that idea one time, and I was like, oh,
this makes complete sense because obviously you can throw a
hail Mary further than you can kick a field goal.
So in order to say it can serve time, you
you know, get to a certain point where like, all right,
we feel good about field goal range, let's kick it.
Try to get the onside kick because we need two
scores anyway. It kind of makes sense time wise, but
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not in that instance. That felt like the fix was in.
Like the gang was over, was over. The game was
besides the.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Spread, beside the spirit, but the game was over.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
I mean, I just I've never been a party to
see that. Wouldn't want to try to take shots to
the end.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Zone, right, you know?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Not only that did the spread hit, the over also
hit The over was forty and.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
A half double way of me.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Well, listen, I mean, you gotta stop being so negative
about it. What about the people on the other side.
And furthermore, if you bet on Denver, I mean, you
get what you ask for like that. That's I'm sorry,
you can't trust them to win by a wide margin.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
And someone's got the red ass for Sean paid That's
what I was about. Someone's got the red ass for
Sean Payton.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Who's that? Somebody?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I don't know, someone someone out there?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I mean, is that way?
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Is that the Raiders up to now? Though, they're just
trying to cover games. They're like, forget winning there under
talks all year. We're just trying to cover so bad
make it someone happy.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
It was a win, Yeah, somewhere Antonio Pears is smiling.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I know that. Come on, Jonas, Yeah, come on, Jonas.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah, you think that's what that hooker was listening to
you before she got in the elevator.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Maybe when she was maybe I was going down, going
down or something.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
That was the backdrop.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That was the music that was playing while I was
getting Let me say this, maybe I'm maybe I'm being
too judgemental.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Maybe she wasn't a hooker. I mean, maybe she looked
at you and thought you were a man of the night.
Speaker 10 (23:25):
I just yea, you know, the timing of it, how
she was dressed, how she looked. I mean, she she
fit the mold she did.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
All right, Well, ifs are at the hour that you
saw her, if she fit that else kind of thinking, yeah,
you might.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
As well err on the side of that's that's what
it is. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
And the other thing that led me to think that
she was was she didn't like leave was like a
car picking her up t back out into the casino.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I was thinking, no, she's.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
Gonna go find some more work, because we are again
it's morning for us, it's still last night for someone else.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, so somebody's nice she might just ending right now.
She might get back up on the horse. They might
still be going. She might have headed back to the
strip club to get back on the bowl like that.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Just never know.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
It's like that slab of ribs Rocky was punching in
the freezer. Dang, why is that well took a beating.
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Speaker 7 (24:48):
I don't mean to sound again judgmental with it, but
I feel like whopearings something.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
About it too, just with that look.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
That seems like feeling.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
I think Jessica it was Jessica Roberts or I want
to think of who's the actious.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Pretty well Roberts. She like big hoop earrings, and yeah,
I think that's where I got that from.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
She's you know, that's that's another level though, that that's
when you can take home.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Yeah, she did not look like her. No, no, she
looked like a distant cousin. Oh no, like very distant Anita.
Does you know, probably not have a few papers there.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Oh no, oh no, she had a booty do. Belly
came out more than the booty do dang.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Vegas man, you know, they opened their arms with everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Do you remember the first time you two went. You
guys were in Vegas. I don't if it was around
a fight or something. You guys were out of spot
where we were. They were being solicited. Oh yeah, I
mean I was. It was more than solicited.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I was.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I don't know what we're being violated, is what I
was being.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
We were at mg So, we were at MGM. It
was the day after the NFL draft. It was when
the Steelers took Kenny Pickett. I remember. And uh, we
were at MGM, and we were by Hakassan. And because
the show starts three o'clock local time, that's right when
everybody's leaving Hakissan, and so LeVar was, we're right in
(26:33):
front of We're right in front of that lords bar
and LaVar's LaVar is just sitting there. We're doing the
show and this girl came out. Did she pull her uh?
Did she pull her cash and prizes out? I think
I got a video of that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Oh, I don't remember at all.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Like she was aggressive though, that was I mean she
grabbed our coffee and all that stuff, was trying to
put sugar.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
In our coffee.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I thought he thought he was going all right.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
She grabbed the caffee out in my hand. Man, I
was like, I don't want this coffee.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
She had no she had no interest in me, no
interest in Lee. She went straight to var She's like,
I want the Hall of Famer. That's what she wanted.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
That's what you're going with.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
And she got it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
She won, and she got it, got it right. I
was just doing radio man.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Oh and just like right now, I'm tired as hell
trying to get through the topics and do this radio.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Well, I got one for you. What you got remember
Philip Rivers? Yep, Philip Rivers turned forty four on Monday,
and apparently he is going to be in Indianapolis later
on today for a tryout with the Colts, who find
themselves in a really tough spot. Daniel Jones has done
(27:52):
for the year with the Achilles Riley Leonard has got
a knee issue. Brett Rippon is the only other quarterback
on the roster, and so the Indianapolis Colts are looking
for help. I kind of thought, hey, you know what,
why do you see if Joe Flacco can do it?
He spent time there before, and you know that that seemingly,
you know, like, why why not see if Joe Flacco
can continue the one of the great quarterback seasons we've
(28:15):
ever seen and go to another team and play well.
And instead, the Indianapolis Colts are going to bring in
Philip Rivers. He according to reports, he has yet to
decide whether or not he wants to play, but he's
at least leaving his two hundred and eighteen kids to get.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Brought it up.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
So you talking about somebody being in a hard space
or a hard spot. Uh, Mama Rivers, Tiffany Rivers is
in a tough spot. Ten ten kids. So you wanna
roll out to go to go play some football again. Wait,
let's let's let's do a check here. By the way,
(28:56):
money in the bank account, by the way.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
You know he's got he's got a grand kid now too,
does he really? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Yeah, he's Oh man, he's a grandfather. Yeah, man, granddaddy'd
be slinging it still.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Hey man, Yeah, and he wanted to sling it again.
And then in the league, have we ever had a
granddad in the league?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Would that be at first? Would that be a record?
Was Brett Favar grandfather?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
He was?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
He might have been?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
He was?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
He was up there? Now, how old is this player?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
For? Forty four? Okay, that's not too fol No, that's
a very young grandpa though.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
I mean he made ten kids, so he probably got
going with you know what he was doing?
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Well, geez, well, let's remind people how we got to
this point though. So Daniel Jones, who was playing front through,
I believe that what a fracture right in his shin
and it was the opposite leg, but there's his achilles.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
So he's out now.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
Anthony Richardson, their former first round pick, is already on
ir because he had he basically a rubber b and
like a fitness rubber band snap and fracture his orbital
bone in his face.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You literally can't make that up.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
And so Bretta Rippin it's the only healthy quarterback now
on the roster besides Riley Leonard. And they clearly need
some veteran presence. Leonard draft the sixth round out of
out of Notre Dame. But why not Flacco? Would they
bring in Flakka?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Would't that make more sense?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
He's been there. Yes, Philip River has been out a
year more than that two maybe had twenty twenty. So
this is this is how long he's been out. He's
a semi finalist for the Hall of Fame because he's
been out five years. If he comes back, it resets
the clock, so you'll have to wait another five years and.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
He'd probably come back really win a more mentor ship role.
I will say this, if he was gonna come back
to any team, this is one you could just go
back in there, hand the football off, throw some screens.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Maybe a couple of deep shots. But you got Jonathan
Taylor back there.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Man, if I was away from the game that long, well,
I'll say this the game the valance has.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Been legislated out of the game.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
It is very few times that quarterbacks are getting pummeled
if they know how to get rid of the ball.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That is true.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
I would say this is to me, the biggest adjustment's
gonna have to make. Do you remember, like the first
time you had to like move quick, you know, you
had to have a quick twitch your body. When you
get away from doing that consistently and practicing, yeah, you
lose that and then you start like pulling stuff, you know,
and you're like tweaking stuff. Man, what the hell happened
(31:34):
to my body? That's a real thing. It is like
he could he could tweak something just walking out to practice.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, yeah it could. Well.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I mean look at Hapvan with Frank Ragnow who tried
to come out of retirement of the Lions, couldn't pass
his physical because he had a grade three hamstring haar
or pole or something like that, because he probably tried
to get back into shape and he'd been out all
year and that was it. Those those dreams are dashed.
So now the Colts potentially, first of all, I want
to see it. I want to see it happen. I'd
(32:04):
love to see Philip Rivers come back.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Why not Flaco?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I don't get that he was just there last year
and he played this year.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
And he's and looks Cincinnati. You don't need him anymore.
You're not going anywhere. It's over. So yes, bring let
Flacco come in and see if he can complete the
trilogy here of the season. Are they gonna have Burrow
finished out the season then, I mean, why wouldn't you
You gotta have something people to watch. I don't know, Well,
(32:33):
I guess because yeah, they don't really have a young
guy to look at.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
I just always think at this point, like once the
season is officially over and you can't make it in
the playoffs, I know people would be upset with this,
but Poling, well, you'd want to protect him, but you
also want to see what else is behind him. Like
if you look at that backup situation, they brought in
Flaca because Jake Brown wasn't getting it done. So now
you know Flaka is not gonna be your long term backup.
You know Burrow's your guy, but you better figure out
(32:58):
what's behind him. I mean makes sense. Plus, I mean
I look at the same way for Jaydon Daniels in Washington.
There's no reason to risk him getting hurt. Like I
could see if he was just healthy. But you're talking
about guys who have come off of injuries that have
come back to play with the team. So it makes
a lot of sense that if you were to deactivate
a guy based off of where you are knowing that
(33:18):
you can't mathematically make it into the playoffs anymore. I
don't see there being any.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Issue with that.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
But my my, my question is, why the hell would
you think that you would be competitive if you brought
Philip Rivers in and Philip Rivers was actually good? No,
that's not that's not shade.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
That's just real. That's just it's been five years. That's
how long it's been. That's real yesterday.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Hey man, If you feel as though a guy that's
been removed that long can come out of retirement and
assist your team, you're either a delusional as to how
you get to success in some way somehow, maybe it's
worked out for you.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I don't know, or or or.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Or B.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I don't know what B is. It's not a good movie.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Somebody call up somebody call up Abe Lincoln, who's the
GM at Stanford, and be like, hey, you left the
organization in a bad spot years ago? Why didn't you?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Andrew like, if you're.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Gonna go get Philip Rivers, Ryan played the more recently
than Rivers, you know, wouldn't it makes sense to call
him in.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
If you're gonna do that, Yeah, let's just go down here.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
It just doesn't make sense ultimately, I think what the
conclusion is and the consensus of it, like who would
think to release that? And why would you think to
bring him? Like you bring back the guy from the
Philadelphia Eagles, the defensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
He just retired.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
He retired, you know, you brought him back, and he
brought him back. You brought Graham out of you brought
him out of retirement. Okay, great, But this man has
been in ricked hirement. Like he's probably done some mock
breastfeeding like like, uh what like al pacina?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Who is that? Robert de Niro did and meet the Fokkers?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Like what something?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
They probably did something like you know like mock uh.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Breastfeeding, you know what I mean, mock like like you
know he had like the little device that he put
on and fake p yeah, fake I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Ten kids and he's a granddad. He didn't. He didn't,
he didn't mock he didn't. Somebody. I don't know something.
I mean, do people do ten kids?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
A California thing?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
They try?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
That's uh, you're giving us a hint? Like you two
years in the road, bro, I mean, are you good?
We're good? It's nice to be good. Nice to get
that PTO may have to adopt, I know, but it's
like it's nice I take advantage of the benefits. You
do know that there was a shot taking that people
(36:03):
that take days off like that, you know on another show.
You do know that they call them weenies. I believe,
like guys that take the full amount of time for
you know, kids being born. If I wanted to get
the sound and play it, but I'm just said I
thought it was pretty interesting that they made it a
(36:24):
point to have a full out conversation about it and
say those are weenies that do that. But hey, you know,
I'm just saying, opportunity presented itself to bring it up,
so I brought it up. I mean, maybe it starts
some beef, maybe it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
But if somebody called me a weenie and is trying
to protect it right now, huh protect jan is what happened?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Brother? Did you hear it?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I still haven't heard it. You mentioned it, yes, Oh
you haven't heard it. No, I haven't heard it.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Oh man, we got to pull it up.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Can is there any way you could find the promo
of it is like a week ago. I don't know
if you could find it, but it was a promo
and it was one of the shows. It was one
of the more popular.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Just saying they do they even have one on I
don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I like to stay above board, like like throwing out shades,
throwing shade centered in a way where there's shade involved.
I'm just saying he called dudes that took full time weenies.
I just wanted to hear the sounds like that dude
only got one job.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
That's what it sounds like. And I don't know if
does you have kids? Feel like he don't have kids? Okay, there,
I feel like he has kids. So yeah, man, I
don't try to judge or speak for other people. I
don't either.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I don't either, But I thought it was interesting that
it was not only spoken about, but it was actually you.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
I just don't think if you do radio, you can
call anyone else a weenie. Radio is not a tough guy,
deeal it's or not. It's not like by the Bay
broad asking in general, it's not.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
You're kind of a weenie being a broadcaster on the radio.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
Like try by the way, every single week when we're
around like the action of what is like football and
everything else. You forget the physicality and what you have
to put yourself through to do that, but you're constantly
reminded of like this is not this is a week.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
It's a weedie profession. It is.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
It's tough to that, but it's true. Now it's not
tough for me. I really enjoy this in comparison to
what I had to do to make my living before.
I really do enjoy this, you know, like we used
to do this on the sideline, in the locker room
and the meeting rooms, on the buses, on the airplanes,
and now you get to do it and do it
this way, and very few people who get to do it.
(38:47):
I just always look at it from the standpoint like
just own it, like if you're a weenie, owned being
a weenie, you know what I mean, Like whatever that means.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I just know.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
I was walking out of the hotel and out. Wilson
jumped up from his blackjack table and gave me a
hug and was excited to see me.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I can't be a wing He still looks like he
could do it.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah, yeah, like I'm overweight, Like I be hating when
I see these dudes and they be looking like they
still like like he looked like he jumped out of
the weight room and put his suit jacket on to
come play some black jack. You know, I just hate
that I'm obeste and I can't look the way these
guys look around. It's very disappointing. I do thoroughly enjoy
(39:37):
You're disappointing being in person with you, because there's always
some wisdom in the breaks, like I don't.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Jonas has got problems, so he steers that conversation with
the gutter.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
But I feel like you and I actually get to
have real conversations.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I actually do have real conversations, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, not just that with Jonas. That's not what Joe.
He's not interested in any of them.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
No, Jonas likes to like pay pictures with his words,
like he likes to get real, real clear images of
what he's thinking through the way he says with the
borrow what I.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Tell you stories, not stats.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
You know, you tell me stories.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
That was a shot too, That was ten dollars back
the way was ten dollars right there? That should be
ten doh, No, nothing, I pick up on your bs, Jonas.
That was passive aggressive.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
I may create a rule where there's no fines implemented
while we're in person, all three of us at Super Bowl,
because there's too much back and forth.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
That's fine, Jonas. You need to get kicked in your
stomach right now. Man?
Speaker 4 (40:39):
For what?
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah, because I saw you slip that little slip in there,
like that little quick slip in there.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I heard you.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
You know, I'm saw I heard you.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Surgical with this as sore. We're not.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
We can't find the promo that you were referring to.
That's that's out.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
It was still searching. It was.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
It was like last week.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
I've never heard it, so I did, I did?
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I heard it? Was it like a video promo or.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Was it was?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
It was on in the radio.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
It was like running door in the break, Okay, it was.
It was running door in the break and it would
have been towards the end of last week.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Well, yeah, I think do you guys think before we
close out, do you guys think Philip Rivers signs with
the Colts? Why is he flying out there and trying
out If this isn't a legitimate possibility of happening.
Speaker 7 (41:34):
There's gonna like outside doing a physical and making sure
his body is like physically in a position actually practice,
maybe play.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
It'd be interesting to see him throw work out that
looks like.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I wonder if Joe Flacco gave him hope tours, like,
you know what, I could still do.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
This, give him hope?
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Is he coaching?
Speaker 4 (41:56):
He was in Alabama.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I think I got Betty's sling it every day five years.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Probably I'm saying Flacco was out for five years before
he came back.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
No, no, no, he's not doing a Flacco. Who would
this be the closest com to I don't powers, I don't.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
What character, ye, Eli Manning. That's serious kind of corny, man,
I mean it was. It was well done, like it
was like a after school special type feel to it. Sweet,
It's like real corny, cornballish. Yeah, that's what this is
(42:46):
more comparable to. Though, Like, imagine the backdrop of that storyline.
What does Philip Rivers look like during the course of
a regular day every day?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Having ten kids?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Now, I don't know how many are out of the house,
but god dang, I know they ain't all out.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I tell you that.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
I picture him with a cup of coffee all the time,
Like when you're a dad with that many kids, you're
just constantly needing caffeine.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
See, in my mind, I pictured him all all with
like like Little House on the Prairie, Like he's Michael Landon?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Is that his name? Michael Landon? How would you note that?
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Is that his name?
Speaker 4 (43:24):
I think it is.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
That's like it's like an episode out of Should you
watch The Little House in the Print?
Speaker 3 (43:34):
I think I've seen it a few times. I certainly
have saw the intro to the show.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
Could you imagine walking on the bar watching the Little
House on the press startled?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
I'd be like, what turn that bitch off? So quick?
Like not before you come in?
Speaker 7 (43:51):
I'm white and I've never watched The Little House on
the Prairie ever. Ever, Why are you just walk in here?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
It's like your guilty pleasure.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
That probably worse than catching somebody, like taking care of
them stuffs, like god, they like, dude, had Little House.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Of the Prairie on? Like what those bodets really did
it for you?
Speaker 10 (44:14):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I don't even know why I saw that show before,
To be honest with you, I have no idea, but
I have seen it. I have seen it, and it
makes me think about Philip Rivers, like that would be
the life that he's living. Like good Christian family, you know,
read the Bible, get outside, plow the plow the yard
with horses and stuff like that, and milk the cows
(44:35):
and grab the eggs and make.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
About to make your own butters.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Not amish, No, he's definitely not homish.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
More Quaker oh Man.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
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Notre Dame athletic director, was on the Dan Patrick Show
yesterday and well, you know, he aired some grievances not
only with the college football playoff rankings, the rug being
pulled out from under him, but also with the sort
of the strategy that was implemented by the ACC.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
You know, when we sit and talk, when I talked
to Marcus, when we talked to our team.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
We don't have any good answers for that.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
So we just we're just really frustrated that we had
the rug pulled out from underneath this.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I don't know exactly when the decision was made.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
You know, we made our case, we stayed at our
point of view. But again, if you're us, we were
told from day one of the rankings that you know,
we were in and we were ninth, and then all
of a sudden, we wake up on Tuesday and we
fall below Alabama and just our heads were spinning, like,
where's the logic, where's the rationale. I have tremendous respect
for Miami, you know, the great team, great school, but
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we were mystified by the actions of the conference to attack,
you know, their biggest really business partner in football and
a member of their conference in twenty four of our
other sports. I wouldn't be honest with you if I
didn't say that they have certainly done permanent damage to
the relationship between the conference.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
In Notre Dame, we didn't.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Appreciate the fact that we were singled out repeatedly and
compared to Miami.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Not by Miami.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Miami has every right to do that, but it raised
a lot of eyebrows here that the conference was taking
shots at us, and you know, that's just not.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Something we chose to do. We wouldn't choose to do
that in the future.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
All right, So I'd like to update something quickly. I
want to update something. Yesterday we talked about the Catholics
first Convict shirt, about Catholics versus everybody, because I love
that Notre Dame's going after it all. They want it all,
ACC College Football Playoff Committee, Alabama fans, ESPN, they can
all get that work.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
I had someone asked me yesterday, They're like, you know,
how do you feel about this?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And ESPN?
Speaker 7 (03:19):
And I sat and said to myself, you know, everyone
makes this like just about Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You know, b YU got left out too.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
BYU actually had a really good case and resume to
make a case for being a part of the twelve
team playoff. No, unfortunately they lost the same team twice. Right,
they lost in Lubbock to Texas Tech. They lost them
in the Big Twelve Championship. The quarterback gets hurt earlier
in that game, so it takes away from what their
offense could have been. But I don't know, maybe maybe
Disney ESPN, maybe they have a problem with abstinence, right,
(03:47):
I mean that's what both by you and outing. Maybe
Disney's got something against abstinence before marriage.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Are you saying that the lady in the elevator at
an ESPN.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
She would have been representation a ESPN at that point. Yes,
I believe that that's a fair assumption. To be more
serious in regards to the conversation, I think people have
misinterpreted somewhat of like Notre Dame's position on this, where everyone's.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Viewing it as they're whining or they're taking.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
Their ball and going home from the From the get
when we started with the college football.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Playoff, they were in.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
They were assured that they were in and then in
the final two weeks you leapfrog them with a team
that had beat them week one. So they never really
should have had Miami at behind Notre Dame at any point,
creating a false impression of where Notre Dame needed to be.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And then you look at what they did with Alabama.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Alabama did nothing to improve their case for being a
part of the College Football Playoff, having a historically poor
performance in an SEC championship game.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We've never seen a.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
Team non score in an SEC championship game for three
straight quarters. They rushed for less yards than Notre Dame
did in the SEC Championship game. Let us sink in
Notre Dame did been playing the SEC Championship game. Alabama
rushed for negative three yards, and it spare me.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Who was injured. Everyone's got injuries.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Notre Dame is playing with technically three backup offensive linemen,
so spare me all that conversation where Notre Dame has
taking a stance is that we're not going to be
some pawn in.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
A TV show that serves your best interests.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
And then after you go ahead and pull the rug
from out underneath us, you're going to throw us into
some pop Tar bowl and an exhibition game and expect
us to help improve your bottom line. If you're ESPN,
I can tell you this much. I am proud as
a former Notre Dame player and alum the stance of
this team, because it was voted on by the team.
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I think a lot of people havelooked the fact that
this wasn't an administrative decision. This came from the players too.
They collectively made a decision to say, we're not going
to serve their best interest. We're gonna move forward guys
who either are moving on to the NFL, Guys.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Who maybe are moving on.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Kenny Minshee, for example, the backup quarterback once another another
opportunity somewhere else, and rightfully so, he's a hell of
a player. If I was any team looking for a
quarterback that's gonna be a start and a really good player,
I'd look at Kenny Minshe. But those guys are looking
forward to that. The staff is looking forward to the
transfer portal, building out of the roster and then making
their best run twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
But everyone else who was out there making a case
for oh, they don't. They don't get as much practice
for both time and everything.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
You think these kids can't practice, they can't go throw
seven on seven, do the things we always used to do,
regardless of the time of year, just because the coaches
aren't there. You don't think I can film it, go back,
sit with receivers, everyone and watch it.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Go watch through our film and cutups. I mean, everyone
acts like this isn't a full time job.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
For these kids, just because they're not playing an exhibition
bowl game where they're putting their bodies at risk and
potentially the team at risk if one of them gets
hurt in a meaningless game for that twenty twenty six
season where they're trying to actually go for a run
for a national championship, it's just not worth it. And
I got no problem with it.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
It's an interesting situation for certain And man, the ad
came out fire and that that was a guns of
blazing type of deal. I mean it was, I don't
want to say it was very very subtlely aggressive, because
my whole, my ole thought process coming from away from
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what he had to say, was what will be the recourse,
what will be the repercussions, what will be the next
step here? Because when you throw out biggest partner when
you throw out attacking them, you know, not feeling as
though you're on the same page. Those are fighting words,
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like nobody wants to feel like I've been left out there,
Like wait, like I just realized that, you know, I'm
at the party, but I wasn't really supposed to be
at the party. So once you realize that everybody around
you is having fun at the party and they're like,
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they weren't meant to be here at.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
The party and you figured that.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Out, what happens next, Especially if you are the reason
why the party is relevant that has a large bearing
on this. It's not like you invited somebody to the
table that it's like you can treat them as like
how people used to treat Indiana until they started coming
to the table right Like, you can't even treat Notre
(08:49):
Dame as a second rate citizen.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Because they're good.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
They just played for the national title last year, so
they're your best representation outside of seeing something from you know, Clemson,
when you saw from Clemson, who else is really stepping
up to be a major player, to be a major
drawing the ACC? The ACC It could go away today
and wouldn't nobody care wouldn't nobody even care? It would
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be no different than the Big East. Like the Big
East was an amazing, prestigious conference. I can recall it,
some great teams in it, and you know what, it
went away. Don't nobody even care? The ACC could go away.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Wouldn't nobody even care?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
They go down to a power three and then now
there's only one left before it goes to a power
two conference situation where it's the SEC versus the Big Ten.
To me, I'm just curious as to how this all
plays out, because the ACC to me, is not significant
enough to do something where they would be so irrational
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or so you know, blatant in the disrespect of how
they supported or pushed or wanted to see Notre Dame
do well in this situation.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I'll put it this way too.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
I don't think anyone's under the impression that the ACC
needed to trumpet Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I don't feel that way. But I would say that
if you're the.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Conference commissioner, Jim Phillips, who by the way, is a
Notredame guy, But if you come out and say that
you actively didn't politic against Notre Dame when you went
out of the norm of playing that game on your
own ACC network, Notre Dame versus Miami week one on
repeat for like two three days straight, Like how else
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would you describe that?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Then?
Speaker 7 (10:37):
So they might not have had anyone come out and
specifically say anything, but clearly they knew what they were doing.
I mean, Jim Phillips isn't a dumb guy. Now some
might question the intelligence of that entire conference after their
conference tiebreak in scenario because it became so convoluted that
you found a five lost team playing against uv for
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your conference championship, and we would have could have solved
all this, that the ACC was smarter and realized that
if ultimately everything is about getting into the playoff, that's
going to be part of your criteria and your tie
breaking scenario head to head, and then you look at
what's the rank highest rank team in the college full
of playoff rankings.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And that would have been Miami, So it could have
been Miami versus UVA.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Miami would have most likely won, That would have taken
up that power for spot that was left open because
Duke won and instead of jam You getting in, you
would have most.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Likely had it would have been Miami, it would have
been an extra spot then for Notre.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Dame, and we're avoiding all of this, and you could
have had that partial affiliated team in Notre Dame who's
there for twenty four other sports.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
But instead they.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
Can't figure out their ass from their elbow, and so
Duke wins it, and then Duke's like, well, wait a second,
we thought if we win it, we might be in
no right, we're not part of the party.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Either, gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
I do think there will be a day where Notre
Dame could potentially look elsewhere. The Big Ten makes a
more natural fit regionally. They're already playing in the Big
Ten for hockey, but I don't know that. I mean, look,
there's a long history there. There's a long history there
between Notre Dame and what once was. You know, consider
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the Western Conference back then. A lot of people realize that,
and one of the reasons why they didn't join the
Western Conference that became the Big Ten Conference was there
actually was some anti Catholic sentiment that was going on,
and so Notre Dame ended up building up this national
following because they had to travel nationally in order to
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play games from where they were in South Bend, Indiana.
So the independence for Notre Dame is woven into the
fabric of who that university is, who we are, and
there's a reason why you know, they venture all the
way to Southern cala to play the Trojans. You know,
the history pine all of those things, you know, was
built off the fact that they were not allowed to
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be in what was once the Western Conference or the
Big Ten Conference because of their Catholic roots and their beliefs.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I mean, Big Ten would be sweet and it would
make a lot of sense. I don't know what that
entails and how that gets done. But they're the biggest team,
biggest college football team in say Chicago, and it's not
even close, Like there's nobody even in the vicinity Northwestern Illinois,
like nobody's even close to the fan based Notre Dame
(13:31):
as there. So I do wonder how they get with the.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
Whole Thing's interesting to me though, Like everyone's taking potshots
too now, like oh, look at Notre Dames scheduling everything else.
It's like, well, let's just pump the brakes.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
You have to schedule like ten twelve years out. So
if you actually like then someone will say, oh, they're
playing Wisconsin and Michigan State. It's like, well, ten years ago,
you know, it's playing in the Big Ten Championship.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Who won it? Wisconsin? It was actually, well they were
playing it, Michigan State won. It's against State.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
It's like, so when they were actually scheduling this or
their schedule they can control, they looked at these teams
as like, no, these are legitimate teams.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That's what we're trying to play.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
And then as far in regards to the acc affiliation,
they play five games against them here.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
They don't control that. Like they don't.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Control the fact that the Mayam Florida State's been down
Miami has just now finally gotten back and that game
in South Bend next year is going to.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Be wild as all get out versus Miami.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
But they can't control the rest of the conference and
how big the conference is, and if that conference isn't
having them play the toughest opponents. I mean, some of
it's just unfortunate too, Like Syracuse is a different team
of Steve Angelly State healthy at their quarterback position. This
year he gets hurt, season goes by the wayside. For
fran Brown. That's unfortunate, but it's football it's what it is.
But I just sit there and look at them, like, dude,
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they're trying to make USC happen. USC is the team
that's trying to screw it out of it. You listen
to pundit's guys like Colin Coward to act like they
know what the hell they're talking about, and it's like,
the reality is, look at their strength of schedule in
comparison with a lot of these other teams no name.
Strength of schedule is very compartaible ole Miss Well Miss
is a one last team that's sitting right now at.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Six in the playoff.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
I mean, the biggest issue we have in all of
college football with the ranking system, how we go about
doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
There's so many.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Inequities as far as how many conference games they play,
how many power for teams they play, how they go
about scheduling who they play when they play.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
The one thing I tell you about Notre Dame is when.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
You're an independent, you get a lot of your teams
come off buys when they play. I think one year,
like it was like two three years ago, they played
seven teams coming straight off buys.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Like is that easy? I don't care how bad the
team is they had two weeks, got.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
A better shot, You got extra time to prepare and rest.
By the way, do you guys think there's any easy
route to the College Football Playoff Championship this year?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I mean, I get James Madison and Tulane. I get
that maybe those are easy wins. But when I look
at the bracket this year, I looked at our bracket.
I looked at the bracket last season. Now was like
Penn State has a chance to do it. Oh yeah,
like that that bracket was very, very favorable. I don't
see any favorable outside of and I hate to say
(16:08):
it because I mean, maybe they're good enough to compete,
But Tulane and James Madison, maybe those are the two
easier games for the power schools.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Maybe it's not.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It'll be interesting to see entertainment wise how that plays out.
But I guess I'm asking you a question. There doesn't
seem to be a clear and easy path for any
team to get direct to the championship game. If you
have competitive games, if you happen to have games that
are competitive with James Madison in Oregon and Tulane and
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Ole Miss, and if one of them were some way,
somehow able to make it out of the first round.
Does it have any legitimacy to what took place? I mean,
I know it doesn't. I know it isn't justified leaving
out out, you know, Notre Dame. But is there any
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legitimacy to it?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
That?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
That's the question I found myself asking myself.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
I mean, I don't, but you know, this is how
we form outed the brackets, so you know, jam you
gets an opportunity telling it gets an opportunity. Not gonna begrudging.
This is the format that everyone signed up for. I
do think Oregon they have the best.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Path any WHOA yeah, definitely.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
So yeah, there's if I was going to be a
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Speaker 9 (19:45):
Not a what happening in the sports world, but a
little bit of a funny thing that happened over the weekend.
It was funny for me, but for most people it wasn't.
At least the people that had the spread in the
Raiders Broncos game. It was a very interesting sting ending
NFL fans are calling for an investigation.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Actually after the BRONCOSI.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Lost his mind over well, I mean, what's the justification.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
I don't know if there is one. I think it
might have been a coincidence. But yeah, some fans are
convinced the final score doesn't tell the full picture, as
they claimed the score was fixed in the bookmakers favor
after Denver head into the game as seven and a
half point favorites. In the fourth quarter, the Broncos had
the ball on fourth and for the twenty eight yard line,
but in a surprising decision, they opted not to go
for the field goal that would have extended their lead
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to twenty seven to fourteen to make it a thirteen
point game. Instead, Denver attempted to run the ball for
no gain and the Raiders take over with under thirty
seconds from mating on the clock. And then what came
next was instead of spiking the ball, they went for
the field goal.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I mean, you got to get your refs in, you know,
those are game refs for everybody. You know.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Did they make the field goal? They did?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
They made the field there Therefore the Raiders play seven
and a half in over four and that's a cover.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
That's a cover for the d cover for the radios,
which you know you could your mind can wander. You
got a team in Vegas kick a field coal when
they're down by two scorers.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Oh you saying, well, you guys are there and you
knock on a couple of doors.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I mean, LaVar, how are you if you watch your offense?
Yea down? What ten? Yes? Kick a field goal with
what was the four seconds left in the kick? Why
would you kick a field goal? Exactly?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
People are saying that they kicked a field goal so
that if there was enough time on the clock, so.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
They tke it onside kick and you throw the hail
marry four seconds.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
It's like, I know so so I actually that Eric
Mangini introduced that idea one time, and I was like, oh,
this makes complete sense because obviously you can throw a
hail Mary further than you can kick a field goal.
So in order to say it can serve time, you
you know, get to a certain point where like, all right,
we feel good about field goal range, let's kick it.
Try to get the onside kick because we need two
scores anyway. It kind of makes sense time wise, but
(21:55):
not in that instance. That felt like the fix was in.
Like the gang was over, was over. The game was
besides the.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Spread, beside the spirit, but the game was over.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
I mean, I just I've never been a party to
see that. Wouldn't want to try to take shots to
the end.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Zone, right, you know?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Not only that did the spread hit, the over also
hit The over was forty and.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
A half double way of me.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Well, listen, I mean, you gotta stop being so negative
about it. What about the people on the other side.
And furthermore, if you bet on Denver, I mean, you
get what you ask for like that. That's I'm sorry,
you can't trust them to win by a wide margin.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
And someone's got the red ass for Sean paid That's
what I was about. Someone's got the red ass for
Sean Payton.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Who's that? Somebody?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I don't know, someone someone out there?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I mean, is that way?
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Is that the Raiders up to now? Though, they're just
trying to cover games. They're like, forget winning there under
talks all year. We're just trying to cover so bad
make it someone happy.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
It was a win, Yeah, somewhere Antonio Pears is smiling.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I know that. Come on, Jonas, Yeah, come on, Jonas.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah, you think that's what that hooker was listening to
you before she got in the elevator.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Maybe when she was maybe I was going down, going
down or something.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
That was the backdrop.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
That was the music that was playing while I was
getting Let me say this, maybe I'm maybe I'm being
too judgemental.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Maybe she wasn't a hooker. I mean, maybe she looked
at you and thought you were a man of the night.
Speaker 10 (23:25):
I just yea, you know, the timing of it, how
she was dressed, how she looked. I mean, she she
fit the mold she did.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
All right, Well, ifs are at the hour that you
saw her, if she fit that else kind of thinking, yeah,
you might.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
As well err on the side of that's that's what
it is. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
And the other thing that led me to think that
she was was she didn't like leave was like a
car picking her up t back out into the casino.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I was thinking, no, she's.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
Gonna go find some more work, because we are again
it's morning for us, it's still last night for someone else.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, so somebody's nice she might just ending right now.
She might get back up on the horse. They might
still be going. She might have headed back to the
strip club to get back on the bowl like that.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Just never know.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
It's like that slab of ribs Rocky was punching in
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Speaker 7 (24:48):
I don't mean to sound again judgmental with it, but
I feel like whopearings something.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
About it too, just with that look.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
That seems like feeling.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
I think Jessica it was Jessica Roberts or I want
to think of who's the actious.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Pretty well Roberts. She like big hoop earrings, and yeah,
I think that's where I got that from.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
She's you know, that's that's another level though, that that's
when you can take home.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Yeah, she did not look like her. No, no, she
looked like a distant cousin. Oh no, like very distant Anita.
Does you know, probably not have a few papers there.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Oh no, oh no, she had a booty do. Belly
came out more than the booty do dang.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Vegas man, you know, they opened their arms with everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Do you remember the first time you two went. You
guys were in Vegas. I don't if it was around
a fight or something. You guys were out of spot
where we were. They were being solicited. Oh yeah, I
mean I was. It was more than solicited.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I was.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I don't know what we're being violated, is what I
was being.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
We were at mg So, we were at MGM. It
was the day after the NFL draft. It was when
the Steelers took Kenny Pickett. I remember. And uh, we
were at MGM, and we were by Hakassan. And because
the show starts three o'clock local time, that's right when
everybody's leaving Hakissan, and so LeVar was, we're right in
(26:33):
front of We're right in front of that lords bar
and LaVar's LaVar is just sitting there. We're doing the
show and this girl came out. Did she pull her uh?
Did she pull her cash and prizes out? I think
I got a video of that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Oh, I don't remember at all.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Like she was aggressive though, that was I mean she
grabbed our coffee and all that stuff, was trying to
put sugar.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
In our coffee.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I thought he thought he was going all right.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
She grabbed the caffee out in my hand. Man, I
was like, I don't want this coffee.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
She had no she had no interest in me, no
interest in Lee. She went straight to var She's like,
I want the Hall of Famer. That's what she wanted.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
That's what you're going with.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
And she got it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
She won, and she got it, got it right. I
was just doing radio man.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Oh and just like right now, I'm tired as hell
trying to get through the topics and do this radio.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Well, I got one for you. What you got remember
Philip Rivers? Yep, Philip Rivers turned forty four on Monday,
and apparently he is going to be in Indianapolis later
on today for a tryout with the Colts, who find
themselves in a really tough spot. Daniel Jones has done
(27:52):
for the year with the Achilles Riley Leonard has got
a knee issue. Brett Rippon is the only other quarterback
on the roster, and so the Indianapolis Colts are looking
for help. I kind of thought, hey, you know what,
why do you see if Joe Flacco can do it?
He spent time there before, and you know that that seemingly,
you know, like, why why not see if Joe Flacco
can continue the one of the great quarterback seasons we've
(28:15):
ever seen and go to another team and play well.
And instead, the Indianapolis Colts are going to bring in
Philip Rivers. He according to reports, he has yet to
decide whether or not he wants to play, but he's
at least leaving his two hundred and eighteen kids to get.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Brought it up.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
So you talking about somebody being in a hard space
or a hard spot. Uh, Mama Rivers, Tiffany Rivers is
in a tough spot. Ten ten kids. So you wanna
roll out to go to go play some football again. Wait,
let's let's let's do a check here. By the way,
(28:56):
money in the bank account, by the way.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
You know he's got he's got a grand kid now too,
does he really? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Yeah, he's Oh man, he's a grandfather. Yeah, man, granddaddy'd
be slinging it still.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Hey man, Yeah, and he wanted to sling it again.
And then in the league, have we ever had a
granddad in the league?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Would that be at first? Would that be a record?
Was Brett Favar grandfather?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
He was?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
He might have been?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
He was?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
He was up there? Now, how old is this player?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
For? Forty four? Okay, that's not too fol No, that's
a very young grandpa though.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
I mean he made ten kids, so he probably got
going with you know what he was doing?
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Well, geez, well, let's remind people how we got to
this point though. So Daniel Jones, who was playing front through,
I believe that what a fracture right in his shin
and it was the opposite leg, but there's his achilles.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
So he's out now.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
Anthony Richardson, their former first round pick, is already on
ir because he had he basically a rubber b and
like a fitness rubber band snap and fracture his orbital
bone in his face.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You literally can't make that up.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
And so Bretta Rippin it's the only healthy quarterback now
on the roster besides Riley Leonard. And they clearly need
some veteran presence. Leonard draft the sixth round out of
out of Notre Dame. But why not Flacco? Would they
bring in Flakka?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Would't that make more sense?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
He's been there. Yes, Philip River has been out a
year more than that two maybe had twenty twenty. So
this is this is how long he's been out. He's
a semi finalist for the Hall of Fame because he's
been out five years. If he comes back, it resets
the clock, so you'll have to wait another five years and.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
He'd probably come back really win a more mentor ship role.
I will say this, if he was gonna come back
to any team, this is one you could just go
back in there, hand the football off, throw some screens.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Maybe a couple of deep shots. But you got Jonathan
Taylor back there.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Man, if I was away from the game that long, well,
I'll say this the game the valance has.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Been legislated out of the game.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
It is very few times that quarterbacks are getting pummeled
if they know how to get rid of the ball.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That is true.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
I would say this is to me, the biggest adjustment's
gonna have to make. Do you remember, like the first
time you had to like move quick, you know, you
had to have a quick twitch your body. When you
get away from doing that consistently and practicing, yeah, you
lose that and then you start like pulling stuff, you know,
and you're like tweaking stuff. Man, what the hell happened
(31:34):
to my body? That's a real thing. It is like
he could he could tweak something just walking out to practice.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, yeah it could. Well.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I mean look at Hapvan with Frank Ragnow who tried
to come out of retirement of the Lions, couldn't pass
his physical because he had a grade three hamstring haar
or pole or something like that, because he probably tried
to get back into shape and he'd been out all
year and that was it. Those those dreams are dashed.
So now the Colts potentially, first of all, I want
to see it. I want to see it happen. I'd
(32:04):
love to see Philip Rivers come back.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Why not Flaco?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I don't get that he was just there last year
and he played this year.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
And he's and looks Cincinnati. You don't need him anymore.
You're not going anywhere. It's over. So yes, bring let
Flacco come in and see if he can complete the
trilogy here of the season. Are they gonna have Burrow
finished out the season then, I mean, why wouldn't you
You gotta have something people to watch. I don't know, Well,
(32:33):
I guess because yeah, they don't really have a young
guy to look at.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
I just always think at this point, like once the
season is officially over and you can't make it in
the playoffs, I know people would be upset with this,
but Poling, well, you'd want to protect him, but you
also want to see what else is behind him. Like
if you look at that backup situation, they brought in
Flaca because Jake Brown wasn't getting it done. So now
you know Flaka is not gonna be your long term backup.
You know Burrow's your guy, but you better figure out
(32:58):
what's behind him. I mean makes sense. Plus, I mean
I look at the same way for Jaydon Daniels in Washington.
There's no reason to risk him getting hurt. Like I
could see if he was just healthy. But you're talking
about guys who have come off of injuries that have
come back to play with the team. So it makes
a lot of sense that if you were to deactivate
a guy based off of where you are knowing that
(33:18):
you can't mathematically make it into the playoffs anymore. I
don't see there being any.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Issue with that.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
But my my, my question is, why the hell would
you think that you would be competitive if you brought
Philip Rivers in and Philip Rivers was actually good? No,
that's not that's not shade.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
That's just real. That's just it's been five years. That's
how long it's been. That's real yesterday.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Hey man, If you feel as though a guy that's
been removed that long can come out of retirement and
assist your team, you're either a delusional as to how
you get to success in some way somehow, maybe it's
worked out for you.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I don't know, or or or.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Or B.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I don't know what B is. It's not a good movie.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Somebody call up somebody call up Abe Lincoln, who's the
GM at Stanford, and be like, hey, you left the
organization in a bad spot years ago? Why didn't you?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Andrew like, if you're.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Gonna go get Philip Rivers, Ryan played the more recently
than Rivers, you know, wouldn't it makes sense to call
him in.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
If you're gonna do that, Yeah, let's just go down here.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
It just doesn't make sense ultimately, I think what the
conclusion is and the consensus of it, like who would
think to release that? And why would you think to
bring him? Like you bring back the guy from the
Philadelphia Eagles, the defensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
He just retired.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
He retired, you know, you brought him back, and he
brought him back. You brought Graham out of you brought
him out of retirement. Okay, great, But this man has
been in ricked hirement. Like he's probably done some mock
breastfeeding like like, uh what like al pacina?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Who is that? Robert de Niro did and meet the Fokkers?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Like what something?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
They probably did something like you know like mock uh.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Breastfeeding, you know what I mean, mock like like you
know he had like the little device that he put
on and fake p yeah, fake I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Ten kids and he's a granddad. He didn't. He didn't,
he didn't mock he didn't. Somebody. I don't know something.
I mean, do people do ten kids?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
A California thing?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
They try?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
That's uh, you're giving us a hint? Like you two
years in the road, bro, I mean, are you good?
We're good? It's nice to be good. Nice to get
that PTO may have to adopt, I know, but it's
like it's nice I take advantage of the benefits. You
do know that there was a shot taking that people
(36:03):
that take days off like that, you know on another show.
You do know that they call them weenies. I believe,
like guys that take the full amount of time for
you know, kids being born. If I wanted to get
the sound and play it, but I'm just said I
thought it was pretty interesting that they made it a
(36:24):
point to have a full out conversation about it and
say those are weenies that do that. But hey, you know,
I'm just saying, opportunity presented itself to bring it up,
so I brought it up. I mean, maybe it starts
some beef, maybe it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
But if somebody called me a weenie and is trying
to protect it right now, huh protect jan is what happened?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Brother? Did you hear it?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I still haven't heard it. You mentioned it, yes, Oh
you haven't heard it. No, I haven't heard it.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Oh man, we got to pull it up.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Can is there any way you could find the promo
of it is like a week ago. I don't know
if you could find it, but it was a promo
and it was one of the shows. It was one
of the more popular.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Just saying they do they even have one on I
don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I like to stay above board, like like throwing out shades,
throwing shade centered in a way where there's shade involved.
I'm just saying he called dudes that took full time weenies.
I just wanted to hear the sounds like that dude
only got one job.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
That's what it sounds like. And I don't know if
does you have kids? Feel like he don't have kids? Okay, there,
I feel like he has kids. So yeah, man, I
don't try to judge or speak for other people. I
don't either.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I don't either, But I thought it was interesting that
it was not only spoken about, but it was actually you.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
I just don't think if you do radio, you can
call anyone else a weenie. Radio is not a tough guy,
deeal it's or not. It's not like by the Bay
broad asking in general, it's not.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
You're kind of a weenie being a broadcaster on the radio.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
Like try by the way, every single week when we're
around like the action of what is like football and
everything else. You forget the physicality and what you have
to put yourself through to do that, but you're constantly
reminded of like this is not this is a week.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
It's a weedie profession. It is.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
It's tough to that, but it's true. Now it's not
tough for me. I really enjoy this in comparison to
what I had to do to make my living before.
I really do enjoy this, you know, like we used
to do this on the sideline, in the locker room
and the meeting rooms, on the buses, on the airplanes,
and now you get to do it and do it
this way, and very few people who get to do it.
(38:47):
I just always look at it from the standpoint like
just own it, like if you're a weenie, owned being
a weenie, you know what I mean, Like whatever that means.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I just know.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
I was walking out of the hotel and out. Wilson
jumped up from his blackjack table and gave me a
hug and was excited to see me.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I can't be a wing He still looks like he
could do it.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah, yeah, like I'm overweight, Like I be hating when
I see these dudes and they be looking like they
still like like he looked like he jumped out of
the weight room and put his suit jacket on to
come play some black jack. You know, I just hate
that I'm obeste and I can't look the way these
guys look around. It's very disappointing. I do thoroughly enjoy
(39:37):
You're disappointing being in person with you, because there's always
some wisdom in the breaks, like I don't.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Jonas has got problems, so he steers that conversation with
the gutter.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
But I feel like you and I actually get to
have real conversations.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I actually do have real conversations, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, not just that with Jonas. That's not what Joe.
He's not interested in any of them.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
No, Jonas likes to like pay pictures with his words,
like he likes to get real, real clear images of
what he's thinking through the way he says with the
borrow what I.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Tell you stories, not stats.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
You know, you tell me stories.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
That was a shot too, That was ten dollars back
the way was ten dollars right there? That should be
ten doh, No, nothing, I pick up on your bs, Jonas.
That was passive aggressive.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
I may create a rule where there's no fines implemented
while we're in person, all three of us at Super Bowl,
because there's too much back and forth.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
That's fine, Jonas. You need to get kicked in your
stomach right now. Man?
Speaker 4 (40:39):
For what?
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah, because I saw you slip that little slip in there,
like that little quick slip in there.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I heard you.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
You know, I'm saw I heard you.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Surgical with this as sore. We're not.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
We can't find the promo that you were referring to.
That's that's out.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
It was still searching. It was.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
It was like last week.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
I've never heard it, so I did, I did?
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I heard it? Was it like a video promo or.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Was it was?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
It was on in the radio.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
It was like running door in the break, Okay, it was.
It was running door in the break and it would
have been towards the end of last week.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Well, yeah, I think do you guys think before we
close out, do you guys think Philip Rivers signs with
the Colts? Why is he flying out there and trying
out If this isn't a legitimate possibility of happening.
Speaker 7 (41:34):
There's gonna like outside doing a physical and making sure
his body is like physically in a position actually practice,
maybe play.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
It'd be interesting to see him throw work out that
looks like.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I wonder if Joe Flacco gave him hope tours, like,
you know what, I could still do.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
This, give him hope?
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Is he coaching?
Speaker 4 (41:56):
He was in Alabama.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I think I got Betty's sling it every day five years.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Probably I'm saying Flacco was out for five years before
he came back.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
No, no, no, he's not doing a Flacco. Who would
this be the closest com to I don't powers, I don't.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
What character, ye, Eli Manning. That's serious kind of corny, man,
I mean it was. It was well done, like it
was like a after school special type feel to it. Sweet,
It's like real corny, cornballish. Yeah, that's what this is
(42:46):
more comparable to. Though, Like, imagine the backdrop of that storyline.
What does Philip Rivers look like during the course of
a regular day every day?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Having ten kids?
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Now, I don't know how many are out of the house,
but god dang, I know they ain't all out.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I tell you that.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
I picture him with a cup of coffee all the time,
Like when you're a dad with that many kids, you're
just constantly needing caffeine.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
See, in my mind, I pictured him all all with
like like Little House on the Prairie, Like he's Michael Landon?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Is that his name? Michael Landon? How would you note that?
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Is that his name?
Speaker 4 (43:24):
I think it is.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
That's like it's like an episode out of Should you
watch The Little House in the Print?
Speaker 3 (43:34):
I think I've seen it a few times. I certainly
have saw the intro to the show.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
Could you imagine walking on the bar watching the Little
House on the press startled?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
I'd be like, what turn that bitch off? So quick?
Like not before you come in?
Speaker 7 (43:51):
I'm white and I've never watched The Little House on
the Prairie ever. Ever, Why are you just walk in here?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
It's like your guilty pleasure.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
That probably worse than catching somebody, like taking care of
them stuffs, like god, they like, dude, had Little House.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Of the Prairie on? Like what those bodets really did
it for you?
Speaker 10 (44:14):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I don't even know why I saw that show before,
To be honest with you, I have no idea, but
I have seen it. I have seen it, and it
makes me think about Philip Rivers, like that would be
the life that he's living. Like good Christian family, you know,
read the Bible, get outside, plow the plow the yard
with horses and stuff like that, and milk the cows
(44:35):
and grab the eggs and make.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
About to make your own butters.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Not amish, No, he's definitely not homish.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
More Quaker oh Man.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
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