2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe Best Of The Week

On this episode of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington, the guys react to the Maxx Crosby trade falling thru. Plus, the guys have some fun with the Italian Baseball team winning with Espresso, chat with Pete Prisco, Petros Papadakis, and much more!!

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(01:32):
Good morning, what's up, guys, How are you hey?

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Pete good?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Really happy for all these players that have had their
lives changed financially, A lot of great stories out there,
a real opportunity to set themselves and their family out
for generations to come.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
And I know you're thrilled with all the moves that
have been made.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Well, I'm happy that the guys get paid, because that's
the number one priority INCLO playing professional football is to
make sure you get paid, and so I'm happy for that.
But the reality is is that most of these moves
are way way way overpaid. Every in fact, almost.

Speaker 6 (02:08):
Every one of them. I just don't understand I mean,
I know they.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Have money to spend. It just means you go around
and blow it. I mean, it's just crazy some of
the money being thrown around. And I know there's a
lot out there.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
I know the everybody is that there.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Well, the owners are making money and everything, but that
doesn't mean you have to be reckless with what you
do spending the money.

Speaker 7 (02:25):
I mean, Pete, we live in America. Is that what
we do. We get a bunch of money for, like,
let's go spend this somewhere.

Speaker 8 (02:30):
You know, why are.

Speaker 7 (02:31):
You surprised that NFL franchise is doing any different?

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Yeah, but you know what, Brady, never I get it.
Free agency is never what you think it's going to take.
It really isn't. And people will look back and say, well,
look at Sam Donald last year. I know, I get it,
and look what the Patriots did last year. But the
reality is, if you go look at the top ten
average contracts over the last couple of years, three or
four years, even go back whenever you want to, they

(02:55):
just don't seem to work out. There's maybe a couple
of them that do, and many of them don't. So
I just don't think it's the end all be all
that everybody makes it out to be. If you draft
and develop, you'll be fine and you don't need to
continually go out and spend this kind of money. Now
for a team like the Raiders who have not drafted
and developed very well, they have to do it, so
I understand why they've thrown.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
Around the money that they did.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
But again, it's not the end all be all that people.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Make it out to be.

Speaker 9 (03:21):
Pete.

Speaker 10 (03:22):
I've referenced you quite a bit as well in terms
of this free agent class and just trying to improve
your team. And there's been a lot of trades, I mean,
and so we hit the legal tampering, we hit that period,
and there's all these trades that take place. Does that

(03:45):
mean that there was an illegal tampering taking place or
were they able to really get these deals done? And
the window of when the legal tampering period opened up?
And how do you feel about the fact that it
hasn't been the free agents that have been kind of
the storylines right now, it's the trades.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Well, let's start with the legal tampering. Back in the day,
it used to be teams would send people to the
Pro Bowl and start their tampering. You know, they go
to Hawaii, they fly to y you could have them
cornered and you can get some negotiating done. Well, then
it kind of moved, and so the legal tampering, illegal
tampering starts. Well before the legal tampering starts, you know that.

(04:27):
I mean you go back to the combine. There were
deals getting done all over the place and parameters being
set all over the place. So the whole notion that oh,
they opened up the legal tampering free agency started yesterday
at twelve o'clock. I mean, that's basically what happens in
legal tampering. Give me a break. These deals are all
free to rarely and I think it's happened a couple
of times where a guy pulls out of the deal.

(04:49):
But these deals all get done. The negotiations have been
going on for the last couple of weeks. So let's
put that hoax to the side. Now as far as
as far as trades, you know, look, teams realize now
you've got to win sooner rather than later, particularly general
managers and coaches, and so you get to the situation

(05:10):
where you look at your cap and you say, I
can go. Let's take the rams. The rams are in
a situation right now with Matt Stafford where they realize
that that thing is closing. How much longer is he
going to play? But as long as he's playing, you
have an opportunity to go win a Super Bowl. Well,
what was their biggest flaw? The biggest flaw last year,
particularly down the stretch was their secondary wasn't very good,

(05:32):
particularly the corners. And so what do they do. They
go out and they trade for McDuffie and give away
you know, draft picks, but that's not what they do.
They don't use the draft picks. They traded away McDuffie
and trade away the picks will give McDuffie. Then you
signed Jalen Watson. All of a sudden, Now you look
at the secondary and you go, well, yeah, they're good
at the corners, they can rush the passer. They're going
to be much better on defense. Time to go on

(05:54):
in And remember they did this similar type thing when
they went and got Jalen Ramsey and they ended up
winning the Super Bowl. So I think that has something
to do with the timeframe a to go for it,
but be the time frame also if you're not a
team that's having a success to try and do something
about it, because you know that you're not going to
be around very long.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Pte Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports
HQ analyst, joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on ax at Prisco CBS. All right, So, best
move and worst move yesterday for you was what?

Speaker 6 (06:28):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (06:28):
I loved the Linderbaum move by the Raiders. Now, having
said that, I think twenty seven million dollars a year
is outrageous for a center, But you get a young
quarter you're gonna get Fernando Mendoz. That one of the
best things you can ever do for a young quarterback, Brady,
You'll tell you that is to have a guy in
front of.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
Him and knows what he's doing.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
And I think that's why that move is really good
for the Raiders. So I love that he's a really
good player. Is he a great, great, great player. No,
but he's a really good player who fills a major
need on an offensive line that was a disaster last year.
And remember Yendi was hit in the backfield more than
any other player in the league. And so I think
if you can solidify that center position, I think that's

(07:06):
supportant so I love that move. Did they overpay for him? Absolutely,
but it makes sense to go get in. I don't
love the Malik Willis move. And look, I mean, I'm
I'll be honest with you. I think thirty five passes
and now all of a sudden, you're getting that kind
of money. I don't understand that. And this is a
question I asked on our set yesterday. I'm asking you

(07:27):
guys the same question. Is Malik Willis a better quarterback
than two tiger by Low? And I'll take the money
out of the equation, but is he a better quarterback
than him?

Speaker 9 (07:34):
You asked that question earlier.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, we I asked that to start the show because
I think that's the question that has to be asked,
and it's it's funny. I mean, look, he's got more
than thirty five pass attempts in his career. Pete, Okay,
I mean, let's wait at thirty.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
Five last year.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
Brady.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I know, Pete, I know, I know, and I understand
the point you're making. But here's what I presented to
the guys, and so I'm going to.

Speaker 9 (07:56):
Present you with this.

Speaker 7 (07:56):
You tell me what you think. ATHLETs watched him now
for what a year? However, he was in Green Bay
for every day.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
You know, John Erick Solivan knows who he is, you
know from everything is in the locker room, et cetera.
So I think they've got a pretty good feel in
what he is. I think this move is this they
want to create the culture at the quarterback spot in
Miami like they have in Green Bay. I think they're
drafting I got in the first round next year. Regardless
it's a star study class. You look at the contract

(08:25):
Len Moon league, Willis play this year. Maybe he becomes
something where you say, all right, he is something and
you use him to trade later on. But regardless, even
if he plays great, you still allowed that rookie you
draft of the first round years to develop. And I
think that's what they're trying to bet on. They're trying
to stack him with the first round draft pick in

(08:45):
twenty twenty seven because it's such a loaded class. Even
if you have a great season, you might be able
to get, you know, get a guy as a franchise
guy somewhere in the teams because there's not that big
of a need for quarterbacks, but there'll be enough to
be able to handle five or six going in the
first round, and so that's what I think they're trying
to do.

Speaker 7 (09:02):
They're trying to get a guy who has shown some upside.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
He knows the culture and environment they're trying to create,
and it sets themselves up for it to have a
guy that, if he plays well this year, can play
next year and allow that rookie to sit and watch
and learn, and then maybe you find yourself in a
Rogers Jordan Love where you know Rogers plays so well
at the end there that they had signed a little
extension off of Love's initial rookie contract and then after

(09:25):
the one year starting, you know, he kind of got paid.

Speaker 8 (09:27):
But how does that hit you if.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
I say that, Well, I mean I get it, I
don't agree with it. If I understand what you're saying.
What if he plays great? So what would you rather
than have done a tank?

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Does it sound like though, that's going to work out?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
If Stephen roscoes this is what I signed up for,
I'm going to fire after one year?

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Well, I mean, we really think they're gonna get fire
after one year, Brady.

Speaker 7 (09:54):
Other coaches have I don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Like that's the thing is if you would ask me
ten years ago and have said, yeah, there's no chance,
you know, whatever, it doesn't matter how your first year goes.

Speaker 7 (10:03):
In twenty twenty six, I think that's.

Speaker 8 (10:05):
Changed a lot where I think there's less to whether or.

Speaker 7 (10:08):
Not you get canned.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Okay, now let me play the other side of it.
Let's just say Malik Willis is solid and they win
eight games and they're drafting twenty fourth. Now they take
themselves out of the getting some of the elite quarterbacks oday.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Okay, I'm just a betting man. But if you're eight
and nine, I don't think you're drafting twenty fourth. Okay,
I think you're several around. You're you're a losing team,
you'd probably be drafting like somewhere sixteen, you know, or
you're not.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
You're not getting Dante More, you're not getting arch Man,
and you're not getting the guys.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
At the top of the draft.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Pete, I don't think you understand how many guys are
going to be viewed his first round picks next year.
But you could say you're not getting the top guys.
There's gould be six guys who have views that Leonora Sellers.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
Is going to be a part of that. Jade Miov
is going to be a part of that.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
You know, we can go through okay, the okay, but
let's be real. Some of those guys are developmental guys.
I mean there, let's be there. Look the Notre Dame quarterback,
the arch Manning, Dante More, those are gonna be the
guys at.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
The top of the draft.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
I'm telling you right now. First off, Lenora Sellers, you
can call him the developmental. I don't necessarily think he is.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
That's why he's coming back to school for another year
to continue to develop. I think Jayden Maiava is a
guy that people are sleeping on. I think he's going
to be very capable. There's a number of guys.

Speaker 7 (11:23):
Like I wouldn't.

Speaker 9 (11:23):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I wouldn't say that at all. I don't agree with
that at all. But I'll say this too, Pete, can
you not straight up?

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah? But let's not forget that the Jets are going
to be in the market for a quarterback next year
and they got three three first rounders. I mean, so
you're gonna see You're gonna see that the Steelers will
be in the market for a quarterback. There's gonna be
Keey in the market. The Browns probably will be in
the market.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
For a quarterback, and they keep going, yeah, how many teams.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
I mean, but Rady, they said, Pete, there's gonna be
six guys.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
Taking in the first round. Next year, there's gonna be
six quarterbacks taking.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
It was gonna be a great quarterback draft this year too.

Speaker 7 (11:57):
And no, Pete, it's not the same. It's not. It's not.
You and I have had this conversation.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
I never said I no one ever said, oh, this
is gonna be the those twenty twenty seven will be
one of those classes.

Speaker 7 (12:07):
I'm telling you, I agree.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
I on the surface, right now, twenty twenty seven looks
like a.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Really good quarterback.

Speaker 7 (12:12):
It's not on the surface, bro, don't watch the two
of these young cats.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
But by the way, by the way, twin Viewers threw
more passes than Malik.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
Willis did last year. In case anybody's wondering, would.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
I would have me personally? If I'm the Dolphins, I
play with twin viewers and going to the draft next
year and to go get myself one of the elite guys,
That's what I would do.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
Mean, here's the other thing. Here's another one. I go
out there yesterday.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Daniel Jones wants fifty million dollars a year. That the
transition tag is thirty seven, so you got to start there.
So start there and go up. So he's probably gonna
get it once a deal forty ish forty two, forty three.
You know what I would do, I take the tag
off of him and say see you and go get
Kyler Murray for one point three million. That's what I

(13:00):
would do. I'm not paying. Is there is there a
forty million dollar difference between Kyler Murray and Daniel Jones? No,
right of course not.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
Now, well why why is that? Is there is there
a question about Daniel Jones not being what maybe some
thought or on what I think?

Speaker 5 (13:16):
Well, because you know you are what you aubrated. So
he played well last year, but he got hurt. He's
coming over with Achilles, and he wants forty million, forty
something million dollars a year. I can get Kyler Murray
for one point three million. Give me a break. I'm
not paying Daniel Jones forty something million dollars. If I

(13:38):
can get Kyler Murray from one point three that makes
no Now, if they were equal, and they you know,
the contracts are equal. If you're going to get Kyler
Murray for forty million a year, Okay, I get it.
Or twenty five million a year, maybe I get it.
But one point three million give me Kyler Murray. I
play with him.

Speaker 7 (13:55):
Okay, real quick?

Speaker 9 (13:56):
Can I can?

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I give you a list right now because I want
to go back and just hammer home this point of
how many guys that I think are get draft in
the first round next year. Here's my list of quarterbacks
that have potential to Dante Moore, arch Van and we've
talked about, right, your guy Sam Lovitt, Your guys Sam.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
I don't know about Sam Levitt.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Okay, that's that's fine, but but he'll be in contention
with that. Joshruver, the kid who's going to Indiana. Mendoza
was an afterthought, mid round, late pick. Now he becomes
the first year overall pick. After we're married, you wait
and hold on, and Hoover might have more upside.

Speaker 8 (14:27):
All right, bren soares me.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
The kid of Cincinnati transferred to Texas Tech, he'll have
a shot. Sam will be draft eligible. I don't know
how he'll be viewed, but he's probably in that conversation.
Leonora Sellers, who we've talked about. I mentioned Jade Mayava,
Nico Iamaliava, who I didn't even mention that will definitely
be up there, will throw out the combine and everyone's
gonna be wowed by the arm strength, size, et cetera.

(14:49):
DJ Lagway's another guy where if he goes to Baylor
and does what I think he's capable of, he'll be
in that conversation. And I didn't even mention CJ.

Speaker 9 (14:56):
Carr.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm just telling you right now, Pete, that class is
one that everyone's loading up for.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Five of them will be drafted in the first round.
Five and and and when you six and three of
them will.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
I'll bet you.

Speaker 7 (15:10):
I'll bet you at Chicken Palm dinner at six.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Okay, Well, three or four of them are gonna be okay,
and there'll be a take the bit of Pete.

Speaker 9 (15:18):
I'll take the bet.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Bet take dinner on me next time in Fort Lauderdale
at my at my am my choosing.

Speaker 7 (15:26):
All right, if six you get drafted in twenty twenty
seven in the first.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Round, by the way I d J. Langway goes to
the first round, there's something wrong with people.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
See No, I think he's got much better year this year.
He's got a lot better like upside and ability than
people give him credit.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
You got it, Okay, Brady, I'm gonna give you this.
There's a lot of no because.

Speaker 7 (15:43):
Here, pete, pete.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
Stop.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Here's the thing is, when I'm breaking down film and
watching him, you have to understand how atrocious the Florida
offensive line was, and you have to understand like, he
made some throws and make some plays where you go wow, like,
not many guys can make that.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
So if you put in many other ones where you go,
oh my god, what.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Did he just do?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
And that's a young, inexperienced quarterback. But if you continue
to keep Honan develop him, there's a chance that he
develops in something a lot more.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Than what you You better watch out. You better watch out.
I'm and to found the sire and the quarterback. Excuse makers,
Oh no, just watch Peter.

Speaker 7 (16:20):
You're gonna hold me a chicken parm dinner.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
By the way, don't cheap out on me, Okay, I
get my sides and get appetizers to you.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
I know what you get.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
You get that, you get that giant chicken parm that's like.

Speaker 8 (16:30):
This, Hell yeah, I do, you bet, and I'm making
pay for it.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
By the way, Brady, I'll be glad to pay that
debt bet off just to go have that that chicken
parm with you because it's fantastic.

Speaker 9 (16:40):
It is good.

Speaker 8 (16:41):
My guy at Aquaforan, he's the best.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
He's not.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
No, but yeah, look I get it, Brady, But I
would tank. And just like the Jet, what do the
Jets do it? The Jets went out and spent all
kinds of money on older, DECENTI guys. They wanted to
get older. I get I understood that that was the
whole You know, they were one of the youngest teams
in the league last year. They felt that they need
to get older. I get it, bring some experienced guys in.

(17:05):
But they went and spent a boatload of money on
old guys on the other side of the ball. And
now what are they doing the quarterback? Do you go
get Kyler Murray? And if you get Kyler Murray, are
you winning a championship?

Speaker 6 (17:16):
No? So what are you doing?

Speaker 5 (17:18):
You get Kyler Murray and all of a sudden you
look at it and you go, wow, we won eight
nine games. We're gonna take ourselves out of the quarterback
conversation again for next year.

Speaker 10 (17:26):
Where do you think he's where do you think he is?

Speaker 5 (17:31):
There aren't many seats left, are there? I mean Minnesota
is left, the Jets are left. Where else? Well, he's
coming back. You know the moves they made yesterday just
reek of.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
Rogers coming back.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Head coach, go get Pittman, get him a receiver that
he can he can rely on instead of yell at
it after every play like you did last year. I
think he's coming back. So I think when you look
at I think the only places for Kyler right now
and in less Indianapolis does the wise thing is going
to be Minnesota and the Jets and me personally Minnesota.

(18:12):
I don't know if he fits with what they do.
I mean, I think he might be better off going to.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
The Jets, and I think the Colts.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
I think the colt should take the tag off of
Jones and go get him.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
That's what I would do, all right.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
So let me ask you this.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
You I know of not big on drafting running backs high.
What was your thought on paying running backs high and
Kenneth Walker getting that deal from the Chiefs.

Speaker 6 (18:35):
Didn't like it?

Speaker 5 (18:36):
He didn't like it, By the way, I owe his
agent David Canner in apology because after on the field
at the Super Bowl after he was basking in his
client when the MVP I told him I didn't think
he should get he would get more than James Cook,
and he did and neither got fourteen million dollars average.
I mean that puts him up there with Jonathan Taylor.
Kenneth Walker is not Jonathan Taylor. Kenneth Walker is not

(18:59):
James Cook. Tennith Walker had a good run. Let's not
forget he was splitting carries at one point with Sharbon Day.
If it wasn't for that little three game playoff run.
Does he get that contract? I mean, that's a legitimate question.
So do I like it? No, particularly when I look
over at the Chiefs and I say, who rushed? Is
the passer for the Chiefs? That's a problem for it.
Chris Jones is getting older. You know, Carlaptus didn't quite

(19:21):
live up to the contract last year, and now you
have cornerback holes and a safety hold. Well, they went
and got Gilman, so they kind of filled that one
by getting a cheaper version of Cook. But they still
need corners, and so I think I would have had
I would have gone in a different direction with my money.
I don't think they needed the running back. You draft
those guys, they're on the shelf, you go draft one,
you run them into the ground, and you draft another one.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
That's what I would do.

Speaker 7 (19:43):
I mean, I get what you're saying, but it was
never really healthy for any season.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I mean, his rookie year, you rush for one thousand,
but he hasn't been a hundercent healthy till his past season,
even splitting cares of you want over a thousand, and
I think you go back and look what he did
at Michigan State and they haven't been anything since then.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
What round was did he come in?

Speaker 6 (20:01):
Did he draft?

Speaker 9 (20:02):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I'm just saying, you know, I think he's maybe a
little better player than you give him credit.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
He was a second round No.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
No, I think he's a pretty good I think he's
a pretty good runner, but I think he's a He's
not an elite runner.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
I think he.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Bounces a lot of stuff too much.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
And people, is there's something too like for all the
position needs you just talked about, isn't there something to
the philosophy of like you'd rather pay your veteran like
running backs too are proven or linebackers and safeties and
then draft the top value guys at the edge or
at the cornerback spot, so that way you don't have
to pay them that big contract until they actually the

(20:36):
rookie deal comes up.

Speaker 7 (20:37):
I mean, isn't that more of what teams are doing.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
I'm personally, I'm never paying a running back.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
I'm not the worst, dude, You're the worst.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Now. I'll give you a couple of examples of where
I might the airbacks, you know, the McCaffrey and Eric
gar catch the ball out of the backfield those guys,
But the way the game is played, I'm not paying backs.
And by the way, everybody splits carries now anyway, So
is there is there a back you should give that
kind of money? I mean that that that to me,

(21:09):
I wouldn't do that, huh. Derek Derrick Henry, he's played
in so many Super Bowls in his career too.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
I can't can't.

Speaker 10 (21:19):
See, well, well, you just talk bad about Kenneth Walker though,
so you can't talk out of both sides of your mouth.
That's the Super Bowl MVP now, IVP being the most
valuable players. So he was the most valuable player on
the field outside of anybody else. I'm just saying you
can't go both ways.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
You know, is the most valuable player in that game.
The Seattle defensive line was the most valuable player in
that game.

Speaker 10 (21:43):
But they didn't get the award Kenneth Walker did.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
There's only so many big people who can play the
game in the planet. And so if you get those
guys on the offensive line, and you get those guys
on the defensive line and get the ability to knock
the quarterback down and stop the run, you're gonna win. Period.
I don't care who you're back is. That's the most
important thing.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
So that's where I.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Would focus my money. I would not pay a running back.
I think they look. I take the kids from Nebraska
in the third round, and you watch what he does
when he gets to the NFL, and so I think
you can find running backs.

Speaker 6 (22:14):
You know.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
I've never backed away from that. That's been what Brady knows.
That's been one of my major beliefs for a long
long time. And I will never waiver from it. And
in three years when Kenneth two or three years, when
Kenneth Walker's contract is obsolete, then you come talk to me.

Speaker 10 (22:31):
Barkley took it, took the Eagles they rose to the
Super Bowl, and then.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
What happened last year? He went off a cliff, didn't.

Speaker 9 (22:37):
He They changed? Oh C's.

Speaker 10 (22:41):
Maybe philosophy. It was the same that one year.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Remember that one year when they paid all the running backs.
They paid David Johnson, they paid uh the kid, the
Chargers runner, they paid all those guys, and the next
year they all every single one of them was right
off a cliff.

Speaker 10 (23:00):
Like I said, drafts, you're talking about Dobbins, No.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
No, no, before that, I mean Michael Turner, Michael Turner,
Melvin Gore.

Speaker 10 (23:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Melvin Gore never really got going
in the league.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
Though, yes he did. You draft them, you draft him,
you run him into the ground, and then you draft
another one and let somebody else go pay him.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
That's exactly what I was.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
That's what Pete, before we let you go.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Your highest rated available free agent on your top one
hundred is Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Best guess where does he sign?

Speaker 5 (23:40):
The price is key right now. I think I think
he's asking for too much, and I think the market
is kind of drying up because of his price, and
so he's going to have to lower his price down
a little bit and there's teams out there still need
pass rushers. The Bears need one. But what's the price.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
I'm bad for that dude. I feel like he's always
asked for too. He's never getting the price he wants.
Think since he well, then well here's.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
The other part of it too, Brady. He's pigeonholed as
a guy who just rushes the passer and don't play
the run very well and don't do a lot of
pass rushers get into that category over the years.

Speaker 10 (24:12):
I mean, that's that's racial, Pete. I'm telling you, they're
discriminating against Hendrickson.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
He gets seventeen and a half sacks two years in
a row, and he gets I mean, it makes no sense.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
So what do you do?

Speaker 5 (24:24):
He lives in Jacksonville. By the way, if I were
the Jaguars and that price came down, I would sign him,
put him on the defensive line and make Trayvon Walker
rush from the inside. You get Armstead, Walker, Kinz Allen
and Hendrickson.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
Go go ahead of now go yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Pete, always always appreciate it. Get him money.

Speaker 9 (24:44):
You are who you are, Pete, that's all job.

Speaker 10 (24:50):
You are who you are, that's all.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
You don't think he's any good. You don't think he's
any good, LaVar.

Speaker 10 (24:55):
I think he's super good. I think he gets the
short end of the stick.

Speaker 9 (24:59):
All the time.

Speaker 10 (25:00):
Like there's like three or four elite pass rushers, and
Hendrickson seems to be the one that there's always an
excuse as to why he shouldn't get competent.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
I agree, I agree.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
But by the way, he's thirty one going off.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
It's thirty one coming off core muscle surgery. That that
matters too, so but I'm with you. I would find
him in a minute. I think Campus should look at him,
at the Chicago that should look at him. I think
anybody that needs a pass rushers should go pay that
guy because he can disrupt your your offense.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
In a minute.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
So yeah, I'm with you. I agree. I think he
gets the short end.

Speaker 9 (25:29):
There you go.

Speaker 10 (25:29):
He doesn't look as cool as TJ. Watt in his
uniform either, Like he looks normal, you know what I mean.
That's that's probably what it is. That's what it is.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Q Well, you know, to spend rather they want to
spend their money on running.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Back rather than edge rushers.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Get him on X at Prisco CBS. He is Pete Prisco,
senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analyst
Pete always a fun time.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
We'll do it next week.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
Ahi, guys, take care there.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
He is always upbeat, always positive things to say about
everybody around the league.

Speaker 7 (26:00):
Who's the out there today?

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Every running back got it spreaying I'm not paying any
running back running into the ground.

Speaker 9 (26:08):
All right.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
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Speaker 4 (26:14):
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(28:38):
off rounds?

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
That's right, yeah, and you better get used to how
this sounds right now because we have one work.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Oh boy, oh that was we all get over. Yeah,
this is some technical difficulties, that's what happens.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
I think he's in a windstorm.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Won't look in the in the mid Us they were
dealing with. I mean, if you're a weather geek like me,
you know all about these storms that went through the Midwest,
tornadoes touching down I believe in Mississippi as well too. Yeah,
there was all sorts of stuff that was going on yesterday.
So hopefully things are okay. Is Brady still with us?

Speaker 4 (29:18):
We still Yeah, he's still here, but he's reconnecting.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Okay, all right, so we will catch up with Brady Quins.
There's plenty to get to. It was a wild day
I was just talking to Ben Mallor who had just
finished up his show, and it's one of those days
to where you get a bunch of stories, they all
land in your lap. There's all sorts of juicy tentacles
or branches to every single topic tree that you're given,

(29:44):
which all that means is that later today and doing
the show tomorrow, we're just gonna get a bucket of crap.
Like that's really just what's gonna happen, and there's not
gonna be a lot of great topics. But as it stands,
from yesterday all sorts of fun stuff and the fun
stuff really took a turn for the Raiders and the Ravens,
who apparently there is no deal the Max Crosby for

(30:08):
two first round picks. Apparently that's not happening. And the
first round pick that was number fourteen overall that was
going to the Baltimore Ravens, or was going to the
Raiders by way the Baltimore Ravens, that's not happening.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Trade is off.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Max Crosby reportedly failed as physical yet if you believe
any of the insiders and the people covering this story,
a lot of the feeling around the league is that
the Baltimore Ravens got cold feet, and the Baltimore Ravens
kind of screwed the Raiders over. And so there's a
lot of people that wonder, maybe what this says about
the Ravens organization pulling the plug on all this.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
But if you're.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Baltimore and you trade away that much capital for a
guy and you get him in the building and every
deal is pending him passing a physical and he doesn't
pass the physical, what are you supposed to do?

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Just sign off on it and say, hey, don't worry
about it.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Worst case scenario will pretend like it's the Civil War.
We'll just saw it off. We'll give him a.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Tree branch, have him hobble around on that, and hope
he's ready to go. Week one.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
He failed the physical. Got understand the guy failed the physical.
And you see it happen in the NFL all the time.
You'll see it happen with combine workouts. You'll see it
happen with guys getting drafted. One team's comfortable with taking
a player, one team's not. The Baltimore Ravens got Max
Crosby in the building, Their physicians looked it over and said,

(31:45):
we don't feel great about this. Sorry, you know, we
just don't feel great about this. But it's almost as
if the Raiders are under this illusion because they went
out and spent a bunch of money the day before
that they're in control of everything, and the Raiders are
the team that you want to be when it comes
to functioning at a high level. I got news for you,

(32:07):
and I said this before the fact that Baltimore, who's
got the reputation they have, walked away from the Tyler
Linderbaum deal and walked away from that altogether. In offering
the money they did and trying to get a deal
done and him saying no, and them saying, well, we're
not going to franchise him.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
That would kind of raise a red flag for me.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
There's certain organizations that if they walk away from a
player or they walk away from a deal, it's different
than somebody else. Baltimore's got a pretty good reputation for
being a pretty solid organization for a long time. Philadelphia,
if they walk away from a deal, there's a report
out there that Philadelphia might even consider trading Jalen Carter.

(32:48):
If Philadelphia traded Jalen Carter, wouldn't that raise a red
flag for you about Jalen Carter. So the idea that
Baltimore is just this team that screwed the Raiders over
and they backed out on the deal.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
They brought in Max Crosby.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Their team physicians looked at him and reportedly the physical
didn't add up and.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
They didn't like what they saw.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
So when I see the story come out, and you've
got all these Raider fans that are bitter like, oh,
the Ravens screwed him over and on all these insiders
are saying, this is a bad look for the Ravens.
What are they supposed to do if they bring the
guy in they have their doctors look at it and realize, yeah,
this just doesn't work for us.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
You know. Just there's differences oftentimes with the medical opinions.
I mean, I keep going back to how things going
have turned out for Drew Brees, had the doctors with
the Miami Dolphins cleared him and said he his shoulder
will be fine. Instead, I believe this story as it
goes is they said that Drew Brees's shoulder, wouldn't you
be good enough that first season? And they never be

(33:50):
back to one hundred percent and that was their opinion.
The Saints had their opinion, and Drew Brees ended up
signing a deal to be the quarterback I wis sean
in the Saints. Obviously what a Super Bowl become a
first Ballar Hall of Famer. So it's kind of crazy
to think, you know, how there's that big of a

(34:10):
variance in different opinions on medical opinions. But that's the
reality of the world we live in. I think we've
all known that too, from seeing different doctors for the
different things. You've had a number of issues throughout the year.
Oh yeah, a number that people have looked at they said,
what the hell is that? That's right, you know, but
in some cases they said cut it off, and others
they just said, you're gonna have to live with that
for a while.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yeah, well, trusting buddy.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I walked around, you know, with with teeth that it
looked like my tongue was in jail all through high school.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
And then I had people tell.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Me now they look fine, and it was like, nah,
I don't think that Marror is lying to me, and
that one's not either.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
I'm going to go get veneers.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
You know, different opinions on your physical looks and how
the body operates. I just think like this whole you've
got Raider fans almost taking victory laps like, oh yeah,
they're the clown show organization. See, we want to do
things on the up and up. All because they spent
one hundreds something million dollars in a quick span, and
so they're walking around peacocking as if they're the team

(35:07):
that runs a high functioning organization and operation around the league. No,
the fact that Baltimore I would trust their judgment in this,
and we talked about it yesterday. Look, it's not to
say that that Tyler Linderbaum's not a great player, because
he clearly is. He was the bell of the ball,
so to speak, when it came to the free agent class.

(35:27):
But the fact that Baltimore an organization who's got a
pretty good reputation about doing things at a high level
and doing things the right way. The fact that they
looked at Linderbaum and said, we're not even going to
tag him, like we're not even like we're willing to
let him walk. That tells me that there's at least

(35:48):
something to keep an eye on as far as why
would they walk away from him? And yet the Raiders
are going to overpay by almost ten million a year
in comparison to the next best center. So I just
look at it and and the reaction was, Man, Baltimore,
what a bad look your guy, Jason Lock and firm,
I mean looking for was you know, talking about what
a bad look it was for the organization that the

(36:10):
front office would do this and try finding an agent
or somebody that wants to deal with Baltimore again. Okay, right,
because if they offer a certain amount of money, they're
gonna say no.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Just on general principle.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
We don't like the fact that they didn't let a
guy walk in with one good leg and take the
job from somebody for two first round picks. Okay, So
everybody's just going to run away from Baltimore now because
of this deal.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
I just the whole thing's laughable.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
I was just gonna say. I mean, first off, Baltimore
is one of the better organizations in the NFL. Most
players know that they take care of their players. And
I'm thinking about they changed to a grass field in
their stadium just to help prevent suft tissue Laura Sheremerney injuries.
So this is not an organization that's in question for

(36:58):
all this I think as raider fans or a concern
now because you spend all that money, think you're going
to have the cap space and the draft capital to
rebuild and start this thing over. Meanwhile, now you're now
you're saying, like, what are we going to do now?
I think this becomes a greater issue as well, with
the timing and the process of how during the legal
tampering period, all these deals are done and they're all

(37:20):
subject to a physical they're all subject to the first
day of the new league year, uh, where things could
fall through or teams might end up having a better
offer and they could quote unquote have the deals fall through.
I look at this a little bit skeptical too, and wonder,
you know, did they look at Nice Crosby's injuries and
they do? They look at you know, all the scans

(37:41):
and everything else, and you go, yeah, he's got some
major degenerative issues. And even though he hasn't had that
big of an issue missing games, he's probably missed one,
you know, lastly they held him out a little bit,
but before that maybe maybe a game. I mean, he's
been a worry. He's been out there, but there could
be some long term concerns and isation he's where you're
going to pay him that amount of money. They're reconsidering

(38:04):
some of them, and they might look at a guy
like Trey Hendrickson and say, if we're looking for an
edge rusher, a guy, maybe we give him cheaper, and
maybe he'd be a guy who we've watched within our
division be extremely productive. I mean people tend to forget
that was a guy who had seventeen and a half
sacks and back to back seasons. When he's healthy and
he's out there, he's one of the better edge rushers
in the league. So there's all sorts of little games

(38:26):
that are played. But I don't know that that's the
case here. I think there's just some legitimate concerns about
the deal that was signed and obviously what his potential
issues could be moving forward as a Baltimore Raven. I'm
more curious to see what the Raiders are going to
do now. I mean, there have to be some other
suitors out there, that have to be other teams that
are willing to take on Max Crosby despite from these

(38:48):
issues at the right price, and so we'll see what
exactly that's going to be. But that's more where my
curiosity leads.

Speaker 9 (38:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
I mean, listen, the Cowboys just to win the breakup
with Micah Parsons, they would take Max Crosby with a
whiffleball bat for a leg and just.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
The irony, the irony to that situation is obviously now
they're looking at for Sean Gary of the Green Bay Packers,
as the Cowboys rumored to have been looking at him
to bring him in. It's like, all right, wait a second,
you said a guy there you wouldn't sign to a
long term deal.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Now you're taking one of the packer correct, Yeah, that's correct, Holp.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
It makes sense. I mean, granted it would be for
a you know, a lesser, lesser deal, but you don't
got to convince me there wasn't off the field issues
with Micah Parsons.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
And it's like, I mean, there was an easier way
to get here, guys, it was just pay him last year.
Like it's not like he didn't want to be there,
Like there was an easier way to get to where
you needed to go. But it's almost like they looked
at the ways app on their phone and said, all right,
we can get there on a straight shot on the
highway here, But you know what, what's wrong with taking
a look at the town? You know, let's just go,

(39:57):
let's go navigate all the way around, and let's go
finally and we'll finally get to our destination. And we're
just gonna pay a bunch of money for a bunch
of other guys. And also, from on the Ravens standpoint
of this, it's not like this is the first time
I know that everybody thinks that. Everybody's so fearful, all
these Raider fans, these fanboys who have been watching a
diaper fire for decades.

Speaker 6 (40:20):
I feel like you're just really taking it.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Because it's it's It would be like, no, no, it
would be it would be like a homeless guy seeing
a guy on his way into work and saying, what
a loser. Hold on a second, I got a briefcase
a six figure job, and I just parked my Bentley
and you and you're laying and taking a nap on

(40:44):
a pizza box and you've got two different shoes on,
and I'm life and I'm real and I'm getting criticism
from you. It sounded like the Ravens haven't done this before.
There's history here where brock Marion the Ravens backed out
because he failed a physical. Ryan Grant in twenty eighteen,
the Ravens backed out because he failed a physical. Michael

(41:05):
Brockers in twenty twenty, the Ravens backed out because he
failed a physical.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
It's like this has happened before.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
It's not like some they're trying to get back at
the Raiders or there's some sort of bad blood there.
The guy just had a bum knee and they're not
comfortable with giving up two first round picks, and by
the way, one of them is the number fourteen overall
in this draft. They gave up a lot for him,
and so I don't I don't blame him for having
some concerns there and wanting to make sure everything was

(41:31):
on the up and up. If they're going to give
away that much capital and try and bring a player in,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (41:36):
Yeah, there's a photo going around too of that the
X rays of that meme. I'm not sure if you
saw that on the internet. I'm sure you did.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yeah, but that's funny, you know, I saw I thought
that was actually your X ray, which is interesting.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
I did have a hippo violation, so I try to
make sure to keep those things. But we don't have
our resident, you know, Penn State. Penn State are here
to defend the mica parts and the sole situation when
you're shying here and all that.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
So yeah, he will not, he will not. He will
not be here to uh to defend that. It's yeah,
the whole it's very bizarre.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
And now there is some speculation, some rumblings that maybe
Trey Hendrickson is in play for the Baltimore Ravens, that
maybe that might be.

Speaker 6 (42:19):
A investment for this That's where I think everyone's like,
you know that there's there's thoughts goes, and maybe the
Baltimore Ravens got out of this deal because they felt
like they could get a player who is very productive
as an edge rusher, fits what they want to do
and maybe for a lesser price. And and that's where
there's people who are skeptic about how this whole thing

(42:39):
went down with the physical and I can understand the skepticism,
and maybe there is elements of that, you know, maybe
that they use the the guys have uh failed physical
to go ahead and sign up. But the reality is, uh,
they have the right to do so. And that's like again,
you want to get those players in there for a
physical as fast as humanly possible so you can get
this stuff done. And when you allow it to drag

(43:02):
on or we've got these again deals on paper that
aren't necessarily completely done until that the physical takes place,
it leads to situations like this, And this is where
news gets announced before they're actually done. So I think
it's a good reminder and good lesson to a lot
of folks out there, Like there's a process of how

(43:22):
this all works in the NFL, and clearly we get
ahead of ourselves at the start of the new league year.
And it'd be nice if you saw Roger Goodell the
league try to, you know, change this, and instead they're
only only making what doesn't seem to make sense at all.
Defining is legal tampering. It's either tampering or it's not.
If it's not tampering, call it something else, like stop

(43:42):
with the charades, are stupid. It sounds right, but beside
the point. Just help us get to a process where
when they announce the deals they're legitimate. We don't have
issues like this moving forward.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Ian Rapp before it sent out a tweet a couple
of moments ago that said raiderstar Max Crosby, now back
from Baltimore with the trade to the Ravens office, headed
back into the building in Las Vegas, ready to resume
his training and rehab program. His mindset, Crosby is ready
to play football for the Raiders, ready to move forward.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
So who knows, maybe they're going away.

Speaker 6 (44:16):
I'm sure you're coming back in there.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
He's like, what are we doing here? Like, are we
just going to forget about the fact that you benched him?
You sat him down, which actually, upon further review, if
the knee was that bad and uh, and they were
worried about it, maybe the Raiders were making the right decision.

Speaker 6 (44:35):
But that was you know, tank job Ian just go
ahead and leave the copy and paste stuff on their
next stop, so you just know it came directly from
the agent. I mean, this is the most insufferable time
for insiders right now, where they're getting so much BS
statements from all these players agents and they're just copy
and pasting and put them out there. That's the world

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we're living in now, oh man.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
That that is the one thing I will give Mike
Florio edit. Uh, he's a bit much at times. Because
he's got an agenda care agenda, so'st oh yeah yeah,
so he he will call it out anytime he sees it.
So I do give him some credit for that. But yeah,
wild turn of events. The Max Crosby deals off, and
if he ends up somewhere else, uh, you know, and

(45:19):
and you know, maybe there's some team in the Civil
War League that's okay with a player with a bum
leg starting on their front line, then.

Speaker 9 (45:29):
That is true.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Uh, not that I would know, more like three thumbs,
but is what it is.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
And we will keep you posted if anything happens with
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I mean impressive, impressive, but there's a lot to question
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old p Petros, Good morning, Good morning everybody.

Speaker 9 (47:35):
How's it going.

Speaker 6 (47:37):
Oh, it's going baby, it's too on Petros.

Speaker 9 (47:40):
Oh, it sounds like it. I heard about this.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
What what is?

Speaker 9 (47:46):
What's the deal? Guys?

Speaker 6 (47:48):
We're having some technical difficulties here. We just got to
get through today and we'll be we'll be in the
clear the next couple of days.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Yeah, are you in uh.

Speaker 9 (47:57):
Ohio like this?

Speaker 6 (47:59):
I'm home. I'm home, but we have some technical difficulties
from home.

Speaker 12 (48:03):
So all right, wow, all right, Well, I appreciate and
and uh I appreciate and I salute your efforts to
uh to create normalcy on the radio given the situation.

Speaker 9 (48:18):
How are you, Jonas? No, I was good.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
I'm looking forward tomorrow. Petris and I are going to
be working together tomorrow and Friday.

Speaker 6 (48:23):
I'm jealous. I'm jealous, you know, he doesn't. I mean,
I realized that I'll live out there, so you can't
ask me to come in studio with him, but I
may fly out to do it one of these days.

Speaker 9 (48:32):
Well, you're welcome to if you want. Friday.

Speaker 12 (48:34):
I'll probably be tired of Jonas by that. I'm just kidding,
of course, just joshing, of course.

Speaker 6 (48:42):
Yeah, that's just we were kicking around what happened in
the NBA last night.

Speaker 9 (48:47):
Yeah, yeah, but I want to ask you, are you
like on a phone?

Speaker 6 (48:51):
Yeah, I'm still a cell phone. That that's that's We're
at the last resort here of our technical capabilities.

Speaker 9 (48:57):
Yeah, that is. That is how I would put that
as well. Put Hey, you know, some.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Some hosts on this network have done full shows when
there was other options on the cell phone.

Speaker 9 (49:10):
So there is you know there really.

Speaker 12 (49:12):
Well you know oh yeah, oh yeah, that sounds like
gottlieb oh no oh no, oh no, hey, I heard
you miss class. Well anyway about this lebron thing. You're
right though, that is the last resort. I mean I

(49:33):
remember being on a phone being like, oh my god,
Rudy Gobert threw up on the court and COVID's happening
and we're all going to die.

Speaker 6 (49:44):
It was it wasn't a pandemic that cost us. But
let's just say we're here, all right, all right?

Speaker 12 (49:50):
Did one of your kids spill like gatorade or something
on your comrades, like what happened?

Speaker 6 (49:55):
My assumption is my one year old just ripped a
port of power Corps that has left the So that
is my assumption.

Speaker 9 (50:03):
Yeah, wow, that's a rough ticket. And what's up with LeVar?

Speaker 6 (50:08):
Well, good question.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Yeah, he's uh, he's got took some time off hanging
out with the kids. They're back from college, so some
family time. Okay, but we'll just say it's a PD suspension.
We'll keep it honest.

Speaker 9 (50:20):
Yeah. Well you like to say he pissed hot?

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Yeah, he's on the gas.

Speaker 9 (50:27):
All right.

Speaker 12 (50:28):
Well, I'm here and you guys want to talk about
the NBA. I did not watch a lot of the
NBA last night. I know the Lakers came back to
beat the the te Wolves, which is impressive.

Speaker 9 (50:42):
That's there.

Speaker 12 (50:43):
What third straight win without Lebron They look like the
team they were when the season started, and Lebron was
lying to everybody about having sciatica and taking some time off,
and because of that, these guys got a taste of
playing together. Luka Doncic and Austin Reeves and even that

(51:04):
very disinterested most of the time. DeAndre eight and was
into it. And they came back and won the game.
So that was one thing that happened. So there'll be
plenty of debate shows about Lebron and disrespecting Lebron and
all these stupid things. And then we had the guys
score eighty three, but almost half of it for Bam

(51:26):
was free throws, right, Forty free throws.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Yeah, forty three attempts.

Speaker 9 (51:30):
Yeah, that's hardcore.

Speaker 12 (51:33):
That's a lot of free throws to get to eighty three, right,
I mean that's I mean, good for him and congratulations
and won a great moment. But I think we can
all agree that the NBA has changed so much. A
lot of these stats in this weird stat era are
I don't know, they feel a little more empty. Maybe
we all were gas lighted into thinking the NBA was

(51:54):
so great in the nineties when it wasn't just because
of the John Tesh song. But one way or another,
I mean, for me, that was really the kicker. But
one way or another, it was a big night in
the NBA, and there'll be a lot of debate. They'll
be debate about disrespecting Kobe and his big, big night,
and then they'll be debate about Bam and whether or

(52:16):
not it was legit. They'll be debate about Lebron and
if the Lakers are better off without them, which they
undoubtedly are, And there will be debate about whether or
not any of us should care because Italy beat the
United States last night.

Speaker 6 (52:37):
The Greeks could ever do that? Could they?

Speaker 9 (52:41):
Well, I don't know. I mean, you could put together
a Greek baseball.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Team, marqkas Mustakus, Well, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 12 (52:47):
You can put together a Greek baseball team and just
find guys that are half Greek, grew up in Clearwater, Florida, and.

Speaker 9 (52:56):
Different things like that. But but I don't know.

Speaker 12 (53:00):
Well, the World Baseball Classics interesting, it's kind of a
built it's sort of a built up event, which I
guess anything is when it started.

Speaker 9 (53:11):
And I remember going to.

Speaker 12 (53:12):
World Baseball Classics and Anaheim Stadium wearing my outfit, like
my American outfit versus Mexico and trying to root and
being excited about it and sort of faking it. He
kind of feels like a ratings grab for the MLB.
But the fans love it. I mean, you got people
in the crowd freaking out, having a great time. You

(53:35):
have the espresso machine, you have the guys doing the
Italian fingers at each other, and you guys, mean it's
not really in your wheelhouse, Brady, because you're a national broadcaster.
But the guy who runs Team Italy, do you know
who that is? I do not, Okay, the guy who
runs Team Italy used to be the GM of the

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Dodgers and he's a very public GM.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
Did a lot of heat is running the team.

Speaker 12 (54:03):
I forget ed Colletti is the GM of the the
Italy team, and right now his sausage is swollen.

Speaker 9 (54:14):
By the way, is awesome? He great? I mean, you know,
leave it back, take the.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
We go back to the qualifications, to what determines if
you're Italian then you're playing on this steam away. I
mean these aren't like natural born you know, Italians that
moved the States, Like like, what is the qualified?

Speaker 12 (54:35):
Well no, that's why it's kind of a manufactured event.
You know what I mean, that's why it's a little.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
Bit of your vow. You get to play on the
Italy team.

Speaker 9 (54:43):
That Lorenzen not quite there, but he's he's pitching tonight.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (54:51):
It's uh, it's fun, it's interesting, but I do think
it's a little bit of a manufactured event. One of
the funny things is what you can did you guys
see this story? What you can bring into the World
Baseball Classic?

Speaker 4 (55:03):
No, can you bring your own stuff in?

Speaker 9 (55:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (55:06):
Dude, The list of what you can bring in is amazing,
it is really uh uh let me find it, because
like you can bring in like every obscure Latin instrument
that ever was, but you can't bring in like normal
white guy fans stuff.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
So like aol you could bring in.

Speaker 9 (55:28):
No, here's the list of what you can bring in.
Are you ready?

Speaker 12 (55:32):
Yeah, a fuca, which is like one of those like
cylinders with a handle and you go, you know like that, right, bongos,
you can bring a boulador, which is a giant Puerto
Rican drum for bomba music. You can bring clavest Do

(55:54):
you know what claves are? Those are the two sticks.
So basically you can bring like you know, like nonchuks.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Basically next time we here to kinsinta just grab.

Speaker 12 (56:06):
Away and not even halfway pongas. You can bring You
can bring a cow bell, but not the one with
the with the penis in the middle. You know what
I mean, the ones that will at Mississippi State, right, Yeah,
you have to bang the cow bell with a stick,

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not the one with the little thing in the middle
that you just wag around. A ghita, which is another
like cheese greater type of instrument, sort of like the
washboard of the bluegrass world.

Speaker 9 (56:42):
A ghetto, which is a gourd which grooves that you
hit a stick on, like.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
You know.

Speaker 9 (56:52):
You can bring moroccas. You can bring maracas.

Speaker 6 (56:57):
Do you know what that is?

Speaker 9 (56:58):
No, it's like a big wooden ratchet noisemaker.

Speaker 12 (57:02):
Oh yeah, I know that you can bring this. You
can bring three different kinds of tambourines. You can bring
a tambora, which is a drum. You can bring a
giant Indian guitar, a citar. Is it a citar, No,
it's called a tampoota, but an India would be called
a sitar similar shape. You can bring a trumpet, and

(57:26):
you can bring a trombone. Just in case a fat
guy falls down and you are you ready for what?
You can't bring.

Speaker 9 (57:37):
A horn, air horn. You cannot bring a bullhorn.

Speaker 12 (57:43):
You cannot bring clappers like the hands that clap that
you flap around. You cannot bring a kazoo. You can
bring a trumpet, but not a kazoo. You can you
can't bring thundersticks. You can bring pots and pans, sorry, Jonas,

(58:05):
and no vuvuzela and no whistle. And that's the book.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Oh man, Well look, I mean they're trying, man, I mean.

Speaker 9 (58:15):
Amazing right, I mean that's an amazing list.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
What is the debate between a kazoo and a trumpet?

Speaker 12 (58:23):
I think what they're looking for is like a band
if you have it, Like any old idiot can bring
a kazoo, but if you have a trumpet, you know
it's assuming you.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Know how to play that, right, you're a professional, right,
so you know.

Speaker 9 (58:35):
They want like a Latin makeshift band in the crowd.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
We just talking about Jonas's wedding. Oh yeah, wedding, yes,
and it.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Sounds a lot like we got we got married during COVID.
They kept the deposit, so maybe they're maybe they can
finally to do their job six years later.

Speaker 12 (58:56):
Jeez, it's fortunate anyway, that's the rules for the World
Based Ball Classic, and now after all that, the Team
USA is going down.

Speaker 9 (59:03):
That's where they're going. I don't understand the tiebreaker, very
few do.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Yeah, it's basically you need Italy to win outright if
you're the US, or you need Mexico to not score
a lot of runs and win. Like It's just it
feels like it could have been done. It also doesn't
open your manager, Mark de Rosa. I don't know if
that's an Italian name. But that's also confusing when Mark
de Rosa doesn't know that the US hadn't already clinched

(59:30):
into the next round and basically alludes to the fact
that the players got banged up after the Mexico win
and so they were dragging ass yesterday. It's probably also
not a great look.

Speaker 9 (59:39):
You know.

Speaker 6 (59:39):
It sounds like that tiant spy. I mean, how do
we know they didn't play one? And as our manager,
you know, I don't know.

Speaker 12 (59:45):
I thought Italian Italy was friendly with that angry Georgia Meloney,
their prime minister, didn't. I don't even know if Italy
knows this is happening, because all the players are American guys.

Speaker 9 (59:57):
But I'm not surprised that nobody knows the rules. And
I'm not surprised.

Speaker 12 (01:00:02):
I guess the guys on D Day didn't get beat
up by Mexico in Day one. Right, Well, we're dragging
ass day two.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
Sorry, we can't take the area is if anyone's one
percent Italian, they're usually having an Italian horn on and
they're telling everyone about it, you know, like that's I
get a buddy. I'm not gonna dave names here Italian last.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
Name, but I'm more Italian than he is.

Speaker 6 (01:00:22):
He's basically Irish, but you would never know that base
on his persona.

Speaker 12 (01:00:26):
I thought, Yeah, we have David Vassa who really leans
into the Italian thing, but he doesn't like the World
Baseball Classic because he works with the Dodgers. So the
one thing I just keep thinking about, Brady is when
this show's over, you're just gonna like hit hit the
hang up button on your phone.

Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
Yeah, I mean, it would be no different than me
just powering down the CAMRA's.

Speaker 12 (01:00:52):
You know, I don't know, It's just kind of funny
to me, like, Okay, I'm gonna hang up my phone now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Hey, you know what thought least at least here he's
battling through.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
You know there's something, No that You're absolutely right.

Speaker 12 (01:01:04):
A lot of guys would just be like that lady
in the com Mine a couple of years ago on
that radio show with Chicago, she had a little echo.

Speaker 9 (01:01:10):
And she just said f this and threw her head
set off. Remember that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
I did want on the Bam on a bio eighty stupid.

Speaker 12 (01:01:18):
I mean, the guy averages eighteen a game and he
ends up scoring eighty three.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
It's, by the way, he scored so many points last night,
his averages up to twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
I was curious about that.

Speaker 9 (01:01:29):
So hear what Craik Cartin wrote about it.

Speaker 12 (01:01:32):
No, he wrote, the Miami Heat versus Washington Wizards game
is a disgrace to basketball. Miami up twenty six and
fouling Washington as soon as the ball is inbounded, missing
free throws on purpose to get Bam more shots and
points as pathetic. The Wizards are triple teaming Bam full
court trying to prevent him from scoring eighty three, which
he now did. He has taken over forty free throws

(01:01:55):
at over forty shots.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 9 (01:01:57):
Total s show at NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
It's also for the league that is so worried about
everything being on the up and up because of gambling,
and you've got these charades going on where teams are
in it together to get a guy a point total.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
It's just the whole thing's awful.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
And then Steve Kerr comes out and he's talking, you know,
about how to improve the league is by doing ten
less games. At this point, there's some people that just
want eighty two less games, and I just it's not
anywhere close to what it was.

Speaker 9 (01:02:28):
Yeah, the player.

Speaker 12 (01:02:29):
Empowerment era has kind of gone out of control, which
is weird. I mean, you want the people are that
deserve the money to be playing between the lines. And obviously,
basketball players are very elite and very special athletes and
some of the best looking and most impressive athletes in
the world. I'm not saying they're the toughest, but they

(01:02:50):
are really graceful. And the proprioception of knowing where your
limbs are when you're moving around, and not only do
they go up and down the court, but they go
up and down like pogo sticks, which is what's really hard,
jumping high and then jumping high again the second time.

Speaker 9 (01:03:08):
That kind of stuff is really impressive, and people don't
concentrate on it.

Speaker 12 (01:03:11):
And there is something to the fact that athletes are
more fine toune now and they go up and down
a little faster, and everything is a little bit more
optimized than it was from our era. But I think
now that you kind of take a longer view of
it and look at today's NBA from the mean mister

(01:03:33):
Mustard outfit that Shay Gilgess Alexander wore the other.

Speaker 9 (01:03:37):
Night to eighty three points for Bam of all people last.

Speaker 12 (01:03:42):
Night, and just Lebron hanging on for dear life, fingertips,
holding on to the cracks and the foundation of him
as a Laker, all of it. Just you know, you
figure that even though maybe it's optimized and everybody's making
more money, it's not better than it was. I mean,

(01:04:02):
it's probably the same thing as college football right now.
I'm not for players not getting paid, and I'm not
for the weird, crooked system that we grew up playing under,
although I don't think it was that bad when in retrospect,
but I mean it was almost better when when college
football was done, everything was done under the table, right,

(01:04:26):
Like we almost had we almost had a little bit
more of an understanding of the sport, and we almost
had a better handle on how to cover it when
everything that.

Speaker 9 (01:04:36):
Was being done illegal was being done.

Speaker 12 (01:04:39):
Behind the scenes. And now that everything is above board
and everything is it's kind of like Las Vegas right
at the end of that movie Casino where they say, hey,
Vegas was better when the mob ran it. You know
now that it's all corporate and it's all you know,
there's no there's no intimacy anymore, there's no pride anymore,
there's no I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:05:00):
These are all interesting things.

Speaker 12 (01:05:01):
Like there's a lot of great things that have come
with with modern sports or contemporary NBA and college football
and the different things we watch, even even the NFL.
But there's a lot of stuff when you look at
it compared to the way it used to be that
is not as cool. And the way that that guy
got to eighty three last night is probably one of

(01:05:23):
those things. And the way people dress in the tunnel
is the other.

Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
Well, put Betriss, I want to go back to the
World Baseball Classic and just and I noticed you were
you wanted more celebration from the walk off homer by
Puerto Rico.

Speaker 9 (01:05:41):
Yeah, I didn't see enough. I didn't see enough of motion.

Speaker 6 (01:05:46):
Could you describe for our listeners what exactly that that
walk off home was like.

Speaker 12 (01:05:52):
I mean, it looked like a choreographed party in a
different country. It was awesome, you know, I mean it
was absolutely great. I don't know how you just stand
there and wear that in the chest if you're Nicaragua.
I mean, I think if it wasn't the American team,
there might have been a fistfight if they cared enough.

Speaker 9 (01:06:09):
But it's fun to watch people get emotional.

Speaker 12 (01:06:11):
It's fun to watch people freak out. You know, it's
really interesting, Brady. In today's day and age, if you
build a stadium now, it's not all like this.

Speaker 9 (01:06:20):
We have great things in community. We have you know,
the wave to the kids in.

Speaker 12 (01:06:25):
The hospital at Kinnicky at Florida, they sing, I won't
back down between the third and fourth quarter, the inter
Sandman stuff in Blacksburg. I mean, there's a lot of
stuff that is cool. But when you build a new
stadium today, what are the one thing they're trying to
build all the time?

Speaker 9 (01:06:42):
Sweets? Sweets and partitioned off areas.

Speaker 12 (01:06:46):
And you watch the World Baseball Classic and the World
Cup is coming to LA and coming to the United
States North America soon.

Speaker 9 (01:06:55):
And I mean there's a real thing about being in community.

Speaker 12 (01:06:59):
It's not really our deal because we're sportscasters and and
we don't you know, drink before the games and drink
during the games and hang out afterwards.

Speaker 9 (01:07:07):
What we're doing is working.

Speaker 12 (01:07:08):
But but standing with other people in a game and
watching stuff is not as American as it used to be.
You know, we want to sit in a suite next
to Ice Spice and Taylor Swift, like that's what we
want to do, uh, you know, or like you're Kendall
Jenner dancing along to Bad Bunny who you used to date,
and Lewis Hamilton sitting in front of you, who you

(01:07:30):
also used to date with your big fat cow sister.

Speaker 9 (01:07:33):
Kim who he's dating now. You know, Like that's like
the that's.

Speaker 12 (01:07:39):
Become the American the elite American sports experiences watching from
a suite or watching yeah there she is, or watching
the Armenian Cow, or watching Uh, she needs.

Speaker 9 (01:07:52):
To be milked.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Brow us your problem, bro.

Speaker 9 (01:07:55):
You talk about Kim in such way.

Speaker 12 (01:07:59):
So I do think it's kind of sad that we
don't stand together and watch sports in the same way
in America, like a lot of these people do because
obviously they're having the time of their lives like Sergio
dipp and we on the other hand, are just like, hey,
I looked at Ice, Spice, look at that. You know
it's it's not I mean, and I know that people
most a lot of people do still have that experience.

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
But it feels like, is that because is this because
we've made it a for TV product? Like I always
feel like that TV networks battle between trying to make
the atmosphere out of venue look incredible to be at,
Like when you're home, you're like, God, I wish I
could go to that. However, then when you go, it's like, well, now,

(01:08:41):
like for example, halftime show you bought up that bunny,
people who are there in attendants are like, yeah, it
was awful because the audio is actually just everything's piped
in for TV, not for the people who are actually
there in attendance.

Speaker 9 (01:08:52):
No, you're right about that.

Speaker 12 (01:08:53):
Halftime shows have just become a steady cam following a
guy around in a maze, right, But.

Speaker 6 (01:09:00):
That part of it is like we're so keen on
making the product good for TV we forgot about the
people actually go there in person.

Speaker 12 (01:09:06):
Well, I think it's a great point, but and you
do the big noon show, so you would know. I mean,
it's not like you guys, like we are looking for
a game that doesn't have anybody that's air, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:09:15):
I mean, you guys.

Speaker 12 (01:09:16):
I mean that's part of the part of the experience
of having a great TV product is having a great
crowd to show. I mean, when when something bad happens
to the home team, you immediately have a director trying
to find a guy doing the surrender cobra to the crowd, right,
or people excited in the crowd, or people dejected in
the crowd. I mean, the crowd is such a huge

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part of the production. But you're right, I mean, it
isn't made for TV product, and that's how they're making
the money. But it's a very difficult balance because every
time there's a big crowd at any sporting event that's
into it, it makes the event better on TV, at
the event, for the players, everybody involved. So it's it's

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a very interesting thing. But I think when we have
the World Cup and the World Baseball Classic and we
get to see other people celebrating from other countries, singing songs,
being together, sharing their culture. It makes me a little
bit more ashamed of Taylor Swift and Ice Spice.

Speaker 9 (01:10:20):
If you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
I mean, look, it's like every weekend with the in
laws minus a bounce house.

Speaker 12 (01:10:25):
I mean I like Eye Spice as big ass as
much as everybody else. Yeah you know, I mean I
also like people singing songs and banging their.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Choclass little culture.

Speaker 9 (01:10:34):
You know, are you trying to bring in two little
baseball bats?

Speaker 12 (01:10:38):
That's illegal? Certain, No, these are choklass. I'm a musician,
that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Where do I put my trombone? Petros?

Speaker 12 (01:10:47):
I guess if they figure if you have a trombone,
you know, like better know, you probably know how to
play very professional.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Petro's always fun. Looking forward to tomorrow and Friday and
we will do it to get here on this I.

Speaker 12 (01:11:00):
Tell you, I have a I like, I have a
desire to try to listen to the just to hear
what the show's going to be like in the next
two segments.

Speaker 6 (01:11:11):
That's right, That's right, That's what makes it fun.

Speaker 12 (01:11:13):
You never know, Uh, get him on Brady's calling in
an airstrike from Vietnam.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
Break that phone.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
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Coast Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio.
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here on FSR. Coming
up in about twenty minutes from now, we will have
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We will get into that for you coming up here
about twenty minutes from now. But right now it is

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time for the tire rac play of the day.

Speaker 9 (01:12:32):
That one. I'm not sure if you got at all.
Let's see it's d it is gone.

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
He's hit free.

Speaker 11 (01:12:44):
Then he's gonna have so much espresso enem he may
not go to sleep tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
This will be a stunt shout of a spresso Manny
take an easy, big fella.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Vinnie Pasquentino getting it done.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
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Speaker 8 (01:13:28):
Not even close.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
Yeah, hey, maybe they're pretty into baseball.

Speaker 9 (01:13:32):
Huh I did I did see it? Lists though?

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Where all the uh? The Italian players were born like
half are from the Midwest. I think one or two
they went from Florida, went from Cali. It was like, like,
what are we doing here? I'm still is there any
I'm gonna look this up because I want to know
one of the specifics to how you decide whether or

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not you can play for the uh, the Italian team?

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Yeah, what's the percentage cut off? Like if you're at
you know, is it like twenty four and a half
above twenty four and a half percent? Are you are
you considered qualified to play for that country? Cause? Yeah,
a lot of these guys, I mean, like Francisco Cervelli,
who's the manager of Team Italy. He was he was

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making the comment, you know that our goal is you
know that we help grow the sport in Italy and
that you know, sooner rather than later, it's Italians who
were born and raised in Italy that are playing in
this event.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
Moving forward?

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Okay, okay, so key eligibility critier for Team Italy. The
player holds a valid Italian passport.

Speaker 13 (01:14:43):
So let me just stop there for a second. I,
as I said before, we were joking about this, and
I don't know if I've told you this or not.

Speaker 8 (01:14:53):
But my father in law was working on this to
try to get.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
My wife and my brother in law an Italian passport
and you know whatever, like their dual citizenship, and he
was very intent on doing this. Now, I do think
he got fooled by some online ad or like a
social media ad to think this is much easier than
it actually was, because I'm pretty sure he spent a

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good amount of money on it, and I'm not sure
he was ever able to see it through. So I'm
pretty sure my father in law got scammed. But a
player must hold a valid Italian passport, which is possible
and not, I guess, not as easy as you think,
but also maybe not as difficult it was it was
for my father in law. There must be parental heritage,

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so at least one parent has to be born in
Italy or was an Italian citizen, and then the player
can provide documentation that they would be granted Aalian citizenship
or a passport.

Speaker 8 (01:15:57):
If they applied. So this is this is where it
gets a little bit in the gray area. Okay, so
maybe they just got.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
A nice itie over there, someone to set him a
letter that says yeah, yeah, yeah, of course we'd give
him a passport.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Now, how many of those guys you think actually end
up getting the passport? After all, this is over in
the middle of the season, and I feel like, you know,
some guys might might not follow up on that. By
the way, Francisco Cervelli born in Venezuela, so he can
go a lot of different directions here, Like he could
basically pick and choose where he wants to manage moving

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forward in the WBC. So if you're a Venezuelan team,
just know you've got somebody there who does meet the criteria.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
So just an example, and this goes back to the
twenty twenty three team okay, that had twenty one members
that were US born on it. So the last thing
I'd say too is if the player previously played for
Italy in a prior WBC tournament, they all so can
can qualify again. So even if some of those potentially change, Uh,

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some of some of these eligibility rules, as long as
they were grandfather claused in they're good.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Vinnie Pasquentino at the three home runs, he's by the way,
he's a first base in DH for the Kansas City Royals. Uh,
he spoke with John Paul Morosi. John palm Rosi was
really fired up about the items.

Speaker 8 (01:17:25):
Should be fired up.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Yeah, he would probably be playing for by the way,
for people that are not familiar, John Paul Morosi once
called into this show and spoke Italian on the air.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
So that was that happened a couple of years back.

Speaker 8 (01:17:37):
But here, what can we get John Paul tomorrow? Can
we just get him on.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
To talk about Oh yeah, like anything anything Italian soccer?

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
Uh, now the World Baseball Classic.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Yeah, John Paul Morossi would be be a fun get
and and he'll you know, represent the country nicely and
and he's also one of these guys like Survelli that
could just go a bunch of different directions here. But
John Paul Morosi was catching up with Vinie Pasquentino and
it sounded like this post.

Speaker 9 (01:18:04):
Game, I'm caffeinated, I'm beamed up right now. So yeah,
we're in a good spot.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
So how many more boxes of those Espresso pods are
now on order?

Speaker 9 (01:18:14):
As many as we need, as.

Speaker 7 (01:18:16):
Many as we need will make it happen. So that
was unbelievable.

Speaker 9 (01:18:20):
Huh, You're welcome to USA. We were thinking of you
guys over at your hotel. We were thinking of you guys,
so glad you guys could.

Speaker 7 (01:18:28):
Join us in the party here.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
So there they're all beamed down with camaraderie. Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Yeah, I guess because Bobby Wood Junior is this teammate who,
by the way, if anybody's never seen Bobby Wood Junior play,
guy's a stud and and so he was joking, Yeah,
I hope he leaves the leaves me a hotel room
key because.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
They're you know, they're buddies and putting the royals together.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
But yeah, it's and then you know he's talking about
you know, I'm all beamed up. I thought, in watching
a few of those guys in the dugout that they
were faking the espresso shots. Okay are they Are they
taking actual espresso shots after everything?

Speaker 8 (01:19:04):
Not shots? You don't shoot an espresso.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
What do you mean?

Speaker 8 (01:19:07):
You drink it like anything else. I Don'm not faking it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
I think they're shooting it.

Speaker 9 (01:19:11):
Dude.

Speaker 8 (01:19:12):
Have you not had espresso before?

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
Of course I'm having it right now. No, you're drinking
coffee with espresso in it. Okay, you need to look
up the process of how it's made. Okay, But then
you'll better understand.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
But I'm telling you, I think those guys are are
shooting espresso.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:19:28):
When I got here tonight, Monsi was still here doing
her updates, and she offered me the rest of her espresso.
She said, I got this for the Italians because every
time that they make a whatever game was, she say,
it's a home run. Yeah, you take you take a
shot of espresso. So she was doing that all night,
so she ain't sleeping.

Speaker 8 (01:19:45):
It's hard to shoot something that's hot.

Speaker 9 (01:19:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
I look like they were shooting it.

Speaker 8 (01:19:52):
You you love them to be shooting anything.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
Well, well, here's because here's the move, all right, So
here's the move.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
And I was unaware of this until I did it
the first time because I thought, like, who would want
coffee after you have a full meal? But the whole
coffee after, yeah, helps you completely settles your stomach. And yeah,
well look and then you got to deal with the
repercussions afterwards. But you know, that's a small price to pay.
And so what I do is I'll let it sit
there for about two to three minutes and then just

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rip it. I mean, I'm trying to mainline it. If
that if we're doing this, we're doing this. You have
no class, Jonas, somebody class whatsoever. You're the type of
guy that it's French fries with his chicken parm have
I yeah, I've had af of gotta those.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
Are so good?

Speaker 14 (01:20:40):
Are you classy enough for one of those?

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Jonas?

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
What an awful gatto? An avocado beating to the joke? Gosh,
darn it, did I steal your thunder there, Patty?

Speaker 9 (01:20:51):
I was about.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
I'm stupid. That's right down the right down his alley.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
But now that it did help the US, all right,
So the US will advance now and they are off
and running here. Now the schedule is such to where
now you've got to win, all right now, there's no
more helping out. You've got you've got to win if
you'd like to advance. This is uh, this is really
coming down to it. So we are going to get

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the US and Canada Friday night, eight pm Eastern time.

Speaker 8 (01:21:23):
On We just can't help ourselves finding ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Why again again they did like they're really trying to
divide the US and Canada. But eight pm Eastern time
on Friday night on Fox.

Speaker 8 (01:21:36):
He's doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
It's going to be but my kids went to a
women's soccer match at the Columbus Creuse Stadium. He went
to see the US women's national team take on the
Canadian women's national team, which the USA got the better
of that as well. So the USA has got a
nice little streak right now dominating Canada. I'm sorry to
all my Canadian friends out there.

Speaker 8 (01:21:58):
But that's just the way it is. All these are
just facts right now.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
US, by the way, is currently on DraftKings minus eight
hundred to win that game, so they're an eight to
one favorite to be Canada.

Speaker 8 (01:22:09):
Which which means you're probably bet Canada, aren't you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
I mean, if I can get you know, if I
can get plus money like that, like, and I love
being American. I love the US, but you know, hey,
wins a win the US. The US is favored to win.
The Dominican Republic is currently second. You've got Japan and
then Venezuela there as well too, So I don't know
if you've watched Fernando Tatis and uh and those guys ripping,

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but you talked to Petros about the celebrations going on there, well,
then they have a good time.

Speaker 8 (01:22:43):
That was That was though when he referenced it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
I think that was Puerto Rico he was talking about, Yeah,
which that was so funny as soon as as soon
as you watch the clip, you're like, yeah, this does
seem a little bit excessive, but this is what makes
it fun. I mean, I would say this the moment
coming off of the Olympics for hockey, it has helped
I think in viewership that's been a little bit proven,

(01:23:07):
but also just that's the interest, the intrigue around it.
And I think as a parent now more than ever,
I'm always looking at the impact that has on kids,
Like when kids come home and they're talking about it,
when kids, you know, start talking about different sports they
want to play, or you have some of their friends
over are driving carpool and like the kids are saying like, oh,
I want to do this, and I try this.

Speaker 8 (01:23:27):
This looks so cool.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
I'm thinking to myself, like back when I was young,
you know, we didn't have stuff like this, don't. I
don't know how long the World Baseball Classic has been around, Like,
I love baseball just because that was what my dad
first taught me to play. You know, I was playing
t ball, throwing a baseball around, and it kind of
led to other sports, but that was my dad loved
My dad loved baseball, and that's how things started. The

(01:23:48):
Reds were good back when I was probably what nineteen
ninety nineteen ninety one. The Indians were good after that,
and so it kind of it kept you engaged into
the sport because you were following teams that were playing
the World Series, or at least in the Red's case,
I guess, the winning World Series.

Speaker 8 (01:24:02):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
I'm curious to see the impact this will have on
baseball in general, because even though it does feel a
little bit manufactured, with you know, half the team or
however many players being born in the US.

Speaker 8 (01:24:16):
I do think that's a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
It's cool to see players and teams kind of represent
their heritage, albeit maybe not as you know, close to
the you know, their family or relatives, as one may think,
it's still.

Speaker 8 (01:24:29):
Fun to see what that looks like.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
I also think, and this might be a little hokey
and maybe a little naive to think that people could
set aside some differences, but as we've seen, you know,
people in this country can't really get along for the
most part. Everybody's got a disagreement everybody's got a gripe,
whether it's political, whether it's.

Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
The vaccines or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Everybody's got you're this, and you're wrong, and I'm right,
and there's no common ground. And it does feel like
stuff like this is at least where you can put
all that garbage away and you could just root for
the country, like they're not like nobody cares, who believes
in what, who's voting for what? You just want to
root for the country. And I think that's why a

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lot of people got annoyed with some of the questions
from some of the media to the American athletes at
the Olympics, because it's like, dude, we're at the Olympics.
Why are we bringing this stuff up here? Like why
are you pointing out the flaws of the country. How
about we just celebrate athletes who are trying to win
gold for the country and just root for them.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
And I think the.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
Hockey teams, men's and women's did that. And I think
the further the US goes, I think the more fun
it is for people to watch, because when you look
at that crowd, you see fans of all different teams
just rooting for the US. They couldn't care less that
arrival from another from the same division of the team
that they root for. You just got a base hit
in an RBI. They don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
They just want the US to win.

Speaker 8 (01:25:50):
Yeah, I agreed, which actually begs the question. Listen, are
you into video games?

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
I mean, who isn't?

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Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
I'd put you in a blender in Tetris.

Speaker 9 (01:26:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:26:17):
I'm just glad we now were able to get Neo
into that read so at least we could do. And
some people I love I do too. I actually heard
a song that might be my next song.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
Who wouldn't know who Neo is?

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:26:32):
Probably someone who's you know, not a big fan of
his music.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:26:37):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
I don't know why anybody wouldn't be a fan of
his music. I am, I know, that's for sure.

Speaker 8 (01:26:42):
By the way, you know how to pronounce that day
and Jonas, Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
Yeah, sure do. It is two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington is
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