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Speaker 5 (01:31):
Pete. Good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (01:33):
Guys?

Speaker 7 (01:33):
How are you?

Speaker 8 (01:33):
Good morning?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Pete? What up? Pete?

Speaker 7 (01:37):
Brady?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
There? How you are last week? No?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I got other things going on, Pete. I can't be
here always every day for you.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:51):
I try well, I just missed you when you're not there. Brady.
You know that guy. Other guys don't try and abuse
me as much as you do.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I don't try to abuse you. I just try to
bring up topics that will make you start to be get.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Front long Pete Prisco, Okay, that's not hard.

Speaker 7 (02:09):
That's not hard to do.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
We were talking about Rogers and like how he hasn't
made a commitment yet, Like are you getting tired of this?
Are you getting are you kind of like come on, dude,
like make a decision, let's come back, let's get this
thing going.

Speaker 7 (02:25):
I think he's already made his decision. I think the Steelers, no,
he made his decision. I think he's playing.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
So why don't we see reports them that they're getting
frustrated by it? I don't know.

Speaker 7 (02:35):
I think look, when I was at the league meetings,
I talked to guys and they pretty much gave me
the indication they thought he was going to play. There's
no panic on draft weekend, so I think that the
indication is he's going to play. But again, we don't
know where he is personally. Is he really being tormented
by the fact that he might play or not play?

Speaker 8 (02:57):
You know, you don't think who's tormented by it other
than the Steelers personally, So yeah, oh he's tormented by it?

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, oh okay, yeah.

Speaker 7 (03:08):
I mean it's entirely possible that he's still making the decision,
but I don't think that's the case. I think he's
actually made the decision. I think he's playing. I think
the Steelers, no, he's playing. That's just me. Nobody's told
me that, but I just from people get the indication
that there was no panic in them this offseason. None.
And normally, if you don't have your quarterback playing, you're

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going to panic, and they did not panic, now, unless
you count taking a quarterback in the third round a panic,
which I don't. I think he's playing.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Pete.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
What was your read on Drew Rowler?

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Because we're having the discussion, Ben Roethlisberger made his thoughts
and said, look, nothing jumped out to me about Drew Rowler.
It did with Will Howard though, So if you are
the Steelers and you consider worst case scenario, Rogers doesn't
come back and they've got to choose between Drew Rowler
Will Howard, you could throw Mason Rutoff in there, what direction.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Would you go?

Speaker 7 (04:04):
I'd wait for next year. I mean, but I look,
Drew Aller had some traits. There's no question about that.
He could stand in the pocket. He's a big, strong kid.
He can rip it looks like Flacco at times when
he throws it. But there's so much bad tape and

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what happened to him. I mean, we all know that
that team went in the wrong direction. The coach got fired.
Look at those running backs. They went into the year
thinking they might be, you know, high picks, and either
one of them was. They went in the wrong direction.
And so I think that's always something when you look
at a team. What happened to those guys. It happened
to guys at Clemson too. I mean, guys went in

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the opposite direction. So I think that's a concern. But
there is a lot of inconsistency and bad tape. But
there's also a lot of throws where you look at
him and you go, oh my, And so I think, what
are you going to get out of him? Does he
get good coaching? Does Mike McCarthy fixes bad mechanics? And
there is talent there, it's just a matter of the inconsistency.

Speaker 8 (05:05):
We were talking about the Atlanta quarterback situation a little earlier, Pete,
have you given it any thought the whole Penix deal?
Is it to uh? You know, obviously Penix's health is
a concern. What do you have an opinion on a
stance on that.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
Yeah, look, Penis, we don't know where he is health wise.
And here's the other part of that equation. He went
very good last year and so I think this is
a great opportunity for two to get a lot of
the reps, to get work with the first team, and
to take the job. And I think if you're looking
at it from that standpoint, look, I'm to his big
as critic I always was. I never thought he was
as good as people made him out to be. I

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didn't think Miami should have given him the contract extension,
But this is an opportunity for him to go in
there and win the job. There's going to be a
lot of snaps for him and with the first team,
and I think there's a chance he's the opening day
start no matter what happens Michael Pennis in terms of
his health, he wasn't that good last year, and you
know this was going to be a proven year for
Michael Pennix anyway. So I think this is a situation

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for him for Tuit to go in there and steal
the job, and I do believe he's going to be
the opening day starter.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
What's the biggest unknown for you right now when you
look at the season as we kind of head into it,
is there like as a certain team player. I know
he just talked about Rogers whether not he comes back,
but is there a certain situation you're looking at saying
like I'm most curious about this?

Speaker 7 (06:29):
Well, I think c J. Stroud is one. You know
that we know what their defense is and they improved
the offensive line by getting Rutledge in the first round
is going to be a mall er. I think they'll
be more physical in the run game. So it's all
about c J. Stroud and I think you know, the
Texans are taking a wait and see approach with him.
He got the fifty year option. If you're going to

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get the long term extension, well, if he goes into
the season and plays like he did at the end
of last year, probably not. If he goes into the
season plays like he did a couple of years ago,
he will. So I think this is an enormous year
for him personally, and I think it's an enormous year
for them to get him to play in good football again.
If he does, we know what they can do on defense,
they're going to be nasty. But it's all about the

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quarterback position. So I think that's one thing. The other
one is, aren't you getting upset that the officials might
not be their brady? I mean, we're having you know,
there's the officials might be on strike. You might have
replacement officials again, and lord knows where that's going because
we know how what happened the last time they had
replacement officials. It was it was it looked. It was

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never as bad as it was portrayed, to be honest
with you, even back then talking to people in the
league office. But the one or two three major mistakes
that they had, they would magnified even more so than
the one, two, three, or four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
ten major mistakes that the officials have every week. I
think it's going to be it's going to be a
tough situation. So those are two things I'm looking at.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
I've got a buddy who's actually officiating, and he's obviously
in the middle of this, and I kind of asked
him where he thinks he's Honestly, he goes, don't know.
He's like, yeah, this was somewhat recent, and he's like,
I'm not sure how to the whole thing's gonna shake out.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
So, yeah, does he have a job, Brady, like a
real like a you know. So that's you know, how
that's tough thing. They all have careers outside of officiating
in the NFL. Would like them all to be full
time officials at some point, but they don't want to
pay him to the point where it's worth right their career,
given up their career. So that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Hearing has a career, right, he's a former player, so
he's done well and he's been smart with his money.
He's got some real estate investments that are you know,
kicking off revenue for him too. But no, it obviously
is a portion of what he makes. I mean they
get compensated decently well now too. So yeah, I mean
it definitely will will take a hit, and that's why

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you know there's some concern about it, and there's really
no one lobbying on their behalf, you know when you
think about this whole situation, Like we know that fans are.

Speaker 9 (08:57):
Willing to endure and that's just the truth.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Like I think as a society, there's different changes that
are made and we're like this stinks, but we're still
going to do it because we got to do it right,
like paying high prices for stuff, you know whatever else.
I mean, that's kind of how the norms are. So
I feel like if the NFL feels like they could
wait this thing out and try to get these guys
for cheap or you know, what are the stipulations are

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within their CBA, you know, that's that's what they'll do.

Speaker 9 (09:26):
But there's definitely something.

Speaker 7 (09:28):
Go on, you know that you know that the game
will go on. We saw during COVID go look back
at some of those games, the game went on.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Nobody in the as I asked the producer one time,
I go, let's say I step off the curve get
hit by a bus before I'm calling an NFL game,
And they're like, yeah, they'll just grab someone from one
of the radio crews to come and do the game
last minute.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
It's good feeling.

Speaker 7 (09:49):
It's funny to say that because there are people in
our industry that think the game will stop us something
happen to them, and and I could promise you with
one hundred certainty that it isn't stopping at all. I mean,
they might have a they might have that moment of
silence for you, and then everybody goes, oh god, he
was such a great guy, Pete. Wasn't Pete Prisco such
a positive influence on the people in the NFL. And

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they'll say it for two seconds and the next thing
you know, they go back to ripping me to shreds
and the game will go on. That's exactly what happened.
Was good.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
I was gonna ask you, pet who are those people
that think the game would stop if if something happened
to him.

Speaker 7 (10:21):
I knew guys in this business for years that thought that,
and believe me, they're not. They're no longer with us,
and the game still goes on. I can promise you that. Look,
you're not as important as you think you are. We're
all replaceable and the game will go on, just like
life will go on. It's just sad reality. That's your
lesson for the day.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
So what about media takes? But what about media takes
from Pete Prisco? That has to end when you're done right.

Speaker 7 (10:45):
You never know, I might be just coming into your
house as ghost making making these making you argue with me.
You know, I could be a ghosts Pete.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
I am curious just to get your thoughts on something.
This is, you know, kind of random, but near and
dear to this show because there was a wager that
was placed earlier. And for those that are wondering at
Pete Prisco Draft Guru CBS Sports, the man you go
to when it comes to the NFL Draft. But when
you look at Notre Dame running backs versus Penn State

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running backs drafted this year, obviously, Jeremiah Love Jadarian Price
both in the first round and for Penn State Nicholas
Singleton k Tron Allen in the fifth and sixth rounds.
If you were betting right now, which running back duo
would have the better rookie season, the Notre Dame duo
or the Penn State duo.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
Oh, the Notre Dame duo. It's not going to be
close to close. I like Allen. I think Allen's a
good player, but I think Price is really really good.
He's in a great situation. He's going to be he
might be the rookie of the year. And then on
the other side, I think, you know, Love has all
the rip off, big run potential that you love. So

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I think it's the Notre Dame days And look, okay, LeVar,
you know, come on, give me a break. Are you serious?

Speaker 8 (12:07):
I mean it's the same thing he said, Listen, he
was dead seriously, and then he goes who had better stats?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Who had better stats?

Speaker 9 (12:13):
I was like, actually, jeremih Love had better status.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
The funny thing is, is.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
Anybody in a better situation than Price?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (12:20):
K Tron Allen? Yes?

Speaker 7 (12:23):
Why is he a better situation?

Speaker 8 (12:24):
Because he's got a defensive minded coach and much like
how they do in Seattle, they run the ball. They
like running the ball in Washington. And and by the way,
Tennessee is A isn't a horrible set up to run
the ball either. They're probably going to try to run
in Tennessee. It's been historically a running team. Listen, y'all
could y'all could try to like shame me all y'all want.

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I'm a stand on it. I think Kate Tron Allen
will have the better career than all of them down.

Speaker 7 (12:52):
Yeah, but A's gonna have a better, better, better career.

Speaker 8 (12:57):
And I think and and and and there's and there's
the possible ability that one of them guys has a
better rookie season than the guys from from Notre Dame.

Speaker 7 (13:05):
That's if I had to say, if I had to
say who was going to have the best rookie season,
it would be priced. I don't think there's anything to
me that's a perfect situation. He's going to be the
starting running back. He's going to go into a team
that loves to run the ball. He's perfect for that offense.
I think he's going to be the best best of
them all. Now, if Allen and this is the is
he gonna win the job. Yes, he's gonna Okay, so

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the guys that they have for Shad White, Bill Krossky Merritt,
those guys are all they're done. So he's got the job.

Speaker 8 (13:34):
I don't know about done anything, because there's always going
to be a rotation.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Kron Allen is is the way.

Speaker 8 (13:42):
By the way you guys are talking, y'all really haven't
watched him play, then.

Speaker 7 (13:46):
No, I like him. I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
He's got it.

Speaker 8 (13:48):
He's easily going to be the best inside tackle running back.
He might he might challenge for in the league at
some point. Oh my god, in side like tackle running back.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
He's not better than either that. I like him. He's
not better than either of another.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Okay, just just make sure we have eight all of
these things. But I'll eat it if I'm wrong. I'm wrong.

Speaker 8 (14:10):
I have no.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
Problem with I think he's gonna be I think he's
going to be a good player. But I do think
that this best situation is Pricing is gonna have a
big year, and then Love has the home run speed.
And by the way, I'm one of the guys that
wasn't didn't think Love was worth taking in that spot.
I'll be honest with you, and so I'm would I
would I rather take a running back at three?

Speaker 3 (14:32):
No?

Speaker 7 (14:33):
Or would I rather draft it back like where the
where the Commanders drafted Alan? Absolutely?

Speaker 8 (14:37):
So I get it, But I don't think that's all.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
And I think he's going to be special.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
Why did he last let me just out of curiosity?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Why did he last so long in the draft?

Speaker 8 (14:48):
Yeah, that team had a rough time, and and listen,
we had one first round here, we did, but at
that position, you know, it didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
So they went with the hotter team, the hotter guys.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
When the coach got fired, did you want to fire
I'm not in that.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I'm not in that. I will say this.

Speaker 8 (15:07):
I will say this, I will I will say this
that the team was was mismanaged. The teams were gearing
up and loading up for the run because they did
not trust the passing game. And they were right. And
that that impacted everybody, impacted Drew Aller, it impacted the.

Speaker 7 (15:25):
Running backs transferred in.

Speaker 8 (15:28):
That they did, and that's what made well, that's why
he probably lost his job. Brought in you brought in Hudson,
and you brought in the kid from Troy.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
It's either the players or the coach. So something's not right.
So you got to blame one of the others.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Those players, those players are too good.

Speaker 8 (15:48):
It was the coach's fault. I'm in media, I'm anna do,
I'm always and I'm a you know, I'm a James
Franklin fan. But it was I think it was very mismanaged,
and the and the players lost. They lost the belief
and and what coach Franklin was doing.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
That's what I.

Speaker 7 (16:03):
Believe you got your headline today, fellas LaVar Arrington. Franklin
should have been fired.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Well done, Pete, well done. Way to get some maadline.

Speaker 8 (16:14):
I've already said that I felt like it was mismanaged,
that that team was too talented.

Speaker 7 (16:18):
I think he should be fired. He should have been fired.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Then let's let's just stay hot with this whole situation.
Does anything happen with a vrabel in New England?

Speaker 8 (16:26):
Oh? Oh, good question.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
I mean I don't think so, because he went to
a super Bowl last year. You know how this league works, Brady.
If he was, you know, won four games last year,
I think it would be a lot easier to try
and make that kind of decision. But he went to
the Super Bowl last year, So I don't think it
happens now. Could he walk away from the game, I
doubt it, But again, we don't know what's happening behind

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the scenes with him and his family either, and that,
you know, that's something that's you got to take into
account as well. So I don't I don't think the
Patriots will discipline him. I don't think he's going to
walk away. I think he's going to be the head
coach of the New England Patriots next year, and I
think everybody else. Do you get an idea that he's
not going to be.

Speaker 8 (17:13):
How long does the story last?

Speaker 7 (17:17):
Well, as long as the New York Post keeps stuff
is going to stay in the spotlight, isn't it.

Speaker 8 (17:23):
I mean, I think it is.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
But you mean.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
That's the debate the NBA put him on the boat.

Speaker 9 (17:28):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's what we did.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Think that that kind of tells us where your league's at.
If you have to use an offseason storyline from another
league during the biggest portion of your league season, kind
of tells you where you're at with all that.

Speaker 7 (17:43):
In my opinion, Oh, Brady Funny, come on, no, No,
the show has always been pe funny.

Speaker 9 (17:49):
Pete, I think it's funny. I'm just saying you don't
have enough.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Material and your side of the league in that conversation
to be able to make it funny, right, Like, I'm
just saying, like I get, I understand what you're saying.
I'm also saying that you know.

Speaker 7 (18:04):
When they put the people on that boat, I don't
know if you watch that show, when they put people
on the book, put a lot of people other than
players on that boat.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
I understand.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
No, I I no, I don't. I don't believe that
at all. I think it's suing the segment. I think
the segment and it's loose, and I think they they took.

Speaker 9 (18:21):
A little It's the best studio show on TV.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
No one's going to debate that, not even clothes.

Speaker 9 (18:25):
It's and it's way better than the product that they've
got on the court.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (18:28):
The point we're making, Pete is we've talked about.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
This subject a lot, and I kind of feel like
once the season starts, it kind of goes away because
we'll get into the games and that that'll be.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
The focus on everything. I think stuff comes up.

Speaker 7 (18:44):
No, I'm with you, No, you can again, did we
go back to what we were saying earlier in the show.
The game rolls on. But let's be real, and when
the games roll on, nobody will care about any of that.
I'm with you. I think the story right now it
has legs because the NFL, you know, twenty four to
seven every day of the year, and so it has
legs and that's why people care about it. But no,

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I'm with you. Once the game start, what's okay, I'll
even take it even further. Once training camp starts, nobody's
gonna care. Oh, who's winning the job? Who's winning the job?

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Is?

Speaker 8 (19:15):
So you're saying it won't come up.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
It will not in price, it will not.

Speaker 8 (19:18):
Be covered when when we get to training camp. Mike
Rabel's situation will not be discussed in the media. It's
just gone.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
Well, I mean somebody he might have to address it
from the start, but then it's gone.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
But then it's gone.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
But Pete, if the aj Brown trade does go through,
it's coming right back up. All that stuff's going to
get stirred back up again, because that was that's been
part of the speculator well that you know she was having,
she was given information and she was the one running
with the aj Brown rumors and where.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Did you get that?

Speaker 7 (19:47):
Okay, but okay, but okay, right now, if the trade happen,
do you really think that that's the that's that's going
to be the reason the trade happened.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
No, I just think people it's a it's an excuse
for people to bring it up again.

Speaker 8 (19:57):
There's always going to be an excuse to bring it up.
And Mike Vrable, I.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Mean he's the head coach.

Speaker 8 (20:03):
Like, yes, if they moved on, If Mike Rabel was
gone from coaching the New England Patriots that went to
the Super Bowl not less than a year ago, is
gone and not the coach, I think the story is
still a story. They're still going to talk about the
departure and why he departed. He's still there. It's going
to still be a story him dealing with still being

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the head coach and being there based upon what took place.
This awesome.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
If they won a Super Bowl. Do you think any
New England Patriots fan would give a rat to add?

Speaker 8 (20:37):
Well, I didn't say New England Patriots fans. And in fact,
as you mentioned, I think the only reason why this
isn't isn't blowing up on Mike Vrabel.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Is because he went to the super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (20:50):
That's that's if he doesn't go to the super Bowl
and he doesn't have the type of season he has,
I think the pressure is a whole lot different on
the situation. But that doesn't mean that the conversation is
going to come to an end because there is a
it's that idea of Okay, Diana Racini, They'll say lost

(21:11):
her job, even though she walked away, They'll say she
lost her job, her life was impacted by a la
da da da da da dada. That's how our society,
our culture, that's how the culture works these days. They
are going to continue to throw a narrative at Mike
Rabel because their sides, and that's it's just why didn't
he get the punishment that Diana Racining? Why didn't he

(21:34):
get the ultimate fate that Diana Racine. That's just how
I see social media, and that's how I see media,
and that's why I think it'll continue to persist to
be a story. They will continue every single time it
comes to the New England Patriots come season. During season,
there will be conversations about what took place.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
That's what I believe.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
Well, you have a loud voice in the media, you
should scream and say he should be fired, Like.

Speaker 8 (22:00):
No, that's not what I'm Look at what you're doing, bro,
look at what you're doing with Pete Prisco.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I did not say he should be fired. I did
not say he should be fired.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Hey, by the way, Pete, before we let you go,
congratulations a round of applause from our studio audience. Here,
can we get a round of applause for Pete Prisco
who finished seventh and Fanny Fantasy Pros twenty twenty six
NFL Mock Draft accuracy rankings. You finished me, So congratulations
to you.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
I go quite all the draft, all the draft picks
that spend their whole year doing it. I beat up
most of all of them, including our own. And I
tell Ryan Wilson, who I love, by the way it
works with us, I said, Ryan, you're you're down the
line a little bit, buddy, what's the matter. And they
were all like, oh my god, just stop it. They
you know, we even talked called me the drawing mock draft,

(22:52):
mock draft guru.

Speaker 9 (22:53):
That's why Ryan's the nicest guy in the world. And
that's really I think part of the issue.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
He needs to be meaner like you, and then that
way maybe the draft will become a little more accurate.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
You know.

Speaker 7 (23:03):
Well you know what else too? When I when I
do my mock draft, I I don't after being lied
to way back in the day, over the years of
many a guy in this league, I kind of take
into account a lot of the stuff I hear and
let it go in one ear and out the other
and say, what the hell or would that? Why would
they do that? I kind of do it that way.
And so I had Ruttlege go into the Texans. Nobody,
I don't think. I didn't see anybody else who had

(23:24):
Rutlets going to the Texans. And so therefore, you know,
I had heard that he was going to be a
first round pick. I loved this tape. He was a
tough physical maler and they needed help on the inside.
It just made sense. Nobody told me that, it just
made sense.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Well done, Pete, Well got number seven.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
Yeah I'm not number one, though, but that's number seven
of about you know, twenty nine hundred I think, or
something like that that many people. Yeah, they great, A
lot of the great, a lot of them. Yeah. I
want to be number one, though, Brady, I want to
be number ten. By the way, if I had listened
to some information that I had that I didn't leave,

(24:00):
I would have been number one.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
I didn't try to tell you. You didn't listen to it.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
No, I didn't think the Vikings were going to take Banks.
I had heard rumblings that they like Woods instead. And
I don't want right, didn't you? Yes? I did, Yeah,
I did. That was another one I had right. Absolutely,
it made all the sense in the world.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
And you you, you did not want to believe love
was going to go as high as he was going
to go.

Speaker 9 (24:24):
I tried to give you that.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
I had him at three. I didn't. I didn't want to.
I didn't want to believe it because I would have Yeah, No,
but I didn't want I wouldn't have done it. That's
That's part of my problem when I do a mock
draft is I don't necessarily agree with the picks, and
so I fight myself on them. You should see that fight,
by the way. That's that's that's worse than the bar
fighting himself every day on here.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
I mean, it was my gosh, he shipped out Pete.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Here's what I'll say.

Speaker 8 (24:50):
Yeah, we know that these are Brady's guests that come
on here because y'all are y are such like like
cahoudis like the.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Ca let me now, oh right out of here, to
get out of here.

Speaker 8 (25:07):
Just keep just keep in mind, Pete, uh, don't forget
the hand that that used to bring you on to
the show in d C.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
Pete, don't don't forget your roots, bro, don't forget your roots.

Speaker 7 (25:18):
V That was a long time ago. And when I
came on that show and you can scream and yell
at you and win there.

Speaker 8 (25:22):
That is true.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
That is very true. We always appreciate it. We'll do
it again next week.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
All right, guys, there is.

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Speaker 4 (27:44):
Welcome in the man himself, the one and only Petros Papadakis.
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
which you can hear on the blowtorch AM five seventy
LA Sports. He is a Fox College football analyt and
you can get him on x at the old p
Petro's good morning. Hello Petros morning guys.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
How are you hello? Hello?

Speaker 8 (28:08):
Hello?

Speaker 5 (28:08):
How is your sinco?

Speaker 1 (28:09):
To myo.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yesterday? Right? Yes, it was pretty uneventful. Do you.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Did no celebration? No, you didn't grab a Modello a
little delayed to meet you a lot of Monday and
have that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Or I had a Modelo. My wife and I had
a Modelo. She bought a six pack of Modello and
we had a couple. We are sponsored by Modello, as
you know. Nice Modello meets you a lot of Monday
on the Petros and Money Show because it's a great
Mexican logger with the mark of a fighter hashtag Modello USA.

(28:48):
Please drink responsibly. We did have a Modelo, but nothing
no big but you know it is appropriate if you
guys are interested, It is actually appropriate. It yea to
celebrate in California for Cinco de Mayo. You know a

(29:08):
lot of people say, oh, it's a bigger holiday in
the United States than it is in Mexico, and this
and that. It's become a commercialized kind of event in
the United States because of you know, Jose Cuervo or
Modelo or Corona or patron or what a Don Julio

(29:30):
or whatever brands and maybe that is true. But when
the Battle of Puebla was won by the Mexicans and
it was not against the United States or anything like that.
If the history is known by people, it's French. The

(29:50):
Mexicans beat the French a larger force of French soldiers,
and that was the Battle of Puebla. That was a
huge deal all over the United States at the time
because a lot of people thought that the French at
eighteen sixty two wanted a piece of that good Southern cotton,

(30:16):
and that means the Civil War there was a blockade
and all that. So a lot of people thought that
France was going to help the South in the Civil
War to knock out the North or at least to
try to get their secession. And when France got beat
in Puebla, there was a lot of celebration, especially in
California because California was a Union state, so it is

(30:42):
appropriate at the time, and there was not a lot
of celebration in Texas because Texas was a Confederate state.
So single Demaya was very significant at the time in
the newspapers and stuff in the United States. So it's
okay to go to the cantina drinking syrupy margarita and

(31:04):
have a chick from sales throw up all over your chest.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
You're gonna say, if you get a little pinata key
chain as a take home from one of the Modello girls,
you know, feel good about things.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Because at the time of the Battle of Puebla, that
was a big deal here as well. Now, if people
think that it was us that got beat by the
Mexicans in eighteen sixty two, they are sadly mistaken. Yeah,
taking the the United States knocked out the Mexicans in

(31:35):
the Mexican American War a few years before our own
Civil War.

Speaker 8 (31:41):
Speaking of wars, the bomb threat, evacuations, what was that
all about?

Speaker 3 (31:50):
I was, I was here to get a mill. And
there is a there's a big there's a big festival
in Redondo beat where the bar lives. And it would
start by a guy I went to high school with,
and so I've been involved with it since day one.
And it is pretty you know, for a festival, it's
not like Outside Lands or Coachella or monta Roue or

(32:15):
something like that. It is a bumber shoot. You know,
all of these different festivals around the country and world.
It is a smaller festival, but it's really cool. They
get good acts, you know, Willie Nelson has played it.
Let's say Cheryl Crow was there this year, Cheryl Crow.
This is a second time my daughter met Cheryl Crow
this year. Charl rall surprised with She showed me a

(32:37):
pick that Cheryl Crow signed and gave her. I was like,
where the hell did you go? But uh, yeah, there
was a swatting, a swatting event where the young people
call the swat team and send the swat team and
they think it's hilarious. The beach life got shut down

(32:58):
for a couple hours. They were delayed and they evacuated
the Redondo Beach Pier and all of my people that
work at that event and all that were sequestered on
the third day. And who was playing the third day
James Taylor, sweet Baby James, and my morning Jacket, who
I actually did show up to see. So I went

(33:20):
out there on Sunday despite the swatting event, and everything
ended up okay. But yeah, it was a I got
out a yoga on Sunday and I had all these
texts about a shooting or a mad active shooter or
a bomb thread or something going on on the pier,
and it was obviously very concerning, but it ended up

(33:41):
being okay and the event went off without a hitch, really,
so that was it was good news. And I was
there in the concert for the third day and I
saw totally Banta Caine, what do you mean.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
Thanks for the Petrochos in my morning jacket fan.

Speaker 8 (34:00):
I mean, I'll get a ticket. I didn't say invite
me for free again.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Gone, well, No, I don't like going. I don't like
doing things by myself.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
Petros' she always a peach pit fan.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
There's only a few things I like going by myself, Petros',
and I don't.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
I don't want anybody there with me. I ran into
a tolly Banta Caine, remember him, the defensive guy from
Cal played like ten years in the NFL. Yeah, I
know exactly what you're talking. And he's got like he has.
He showed me that he's got like a beach football
game coming up full tackle h with guests coaches Deshaun

(34:39):
Foster and Marsha and Lynch up in Santa Cruz and
it's gonna be like, you know, like in Point Break
where they got and they had the football game on
the beach and they're like, don't you know that's Johnny
Utah beat USC when he played for Ohio stayed the
Rose Bowl. Yeah the wrong what the wrong? Ways? Jonas?

Speaker 5 (35:05):
But speaking to the microphone, squid brain.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
I know the writer really yeah, I know the guy
that wrote Point Break, Peter Elef it's his name? Is
his name? Really cool guy speaking lax war child.

Speaker 8 (35:24):
Back up seriously of movies and and scripts and and
different things like that. Uh, the Lakers, Okay, I mean this, this,
this season has the potential to be movie worthy. Now
I don't know how. Yeah, all right, so I'm asked

(35:44):
you did making it past Houston because nobody had them,
Nobody gave him a chance to survive against Houston, making
it to this this round. Is it enough to have
made it to this round and get slaughter or do
they have to be petitive either way? I mean, a
massacre can end up being a movie too, But yeah,

(36:05):
what type of movie is this? Is this a horror flick?

Speaker 3 (36:08):
It's really enough? Right, It's never enough? No, not for
the Lakers. I mean when did you move to La
I mean.

Speaker 8 (36:16):
It's eleven years, it's a bunch eleven years and now okay,
so twelve twelve years, twelve years.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
So even when Kobe and uh Pow Gasol and all
that everything going on back in the day, everybody in
town and you remember Jonas had like Laker flags flapping off,
remember that, Yeah, everywhere and all that, and it's just

(36:43):
not that's not the case anymore.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
I worked at a TGI Fridays that was the Laker Bar?

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Was that the one there? Was that? The one near
the airport.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
I used to go to the Magic Johnson one. When
I came out, it literally was the Laker It was like.

Speaker 8 (36:58):
A nightclub, Magicon's TGI Fridays and like.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, I did, You're right. It popped off. Oh man, Yeah,
that was like the place to go. Yeah, you could
get like a young core cocktail, like a Lonzo ball
Brandon Jennings.

Speaker 8 (37:15):
No, No, this is back when I was playing. Like
it was the Magic Johnson Dip back when I was
I mean, it was a who's who a people up
and it was like right down the street from the airport.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
I'm saying, even when you arrived at La as A
as a resident, I didn't do anything.

Speaker 8 (37:34):
I didn't go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Well, I'm just saying the Lakers were a bigger deal. Yeah,
Like I mean, I was out and about on the weekend,
like you said, at Beach Life, and I go around
and I don't see you know, I just don't see it.
I see a Laker hat every once in a while.
It's just not like it was as far as the
excitement goes. Now, they have a new ownership group, and

(37:59):
I believe I watched the new ownership group many years
ago up close, working with the Dodgers, take over the
Dodgers and slowly make all the changes that they wanted to.
Ned Coletti became Andrew Friedman, who has turned the Dodgers
into what they are today, and so on and so forth.

(38:20):
They remember, they didn't fire Don Mattingly, but they parted
ways with him mutually, which is so weird. I mean,
that could even happen to JJ Reddick, as positive as
the coverage has been of him. So what I think
is that there's going to be major changes. I don't
know what exactly that means. You already see it. Within

(38:42):
the front office. Lon Rosen has gone there and taken over.
He was with the Dodgers forever, so under this ownership group.
So I do think there'll be a lot of changes
for the Lakers. I don't think beating the Houston Rockets
without Kevin Durant is really that big of a deal,
despite what the news people or the proxies for Lebron

(39:08):
or whoever else is talking. I mean, that's they make
you feel like the Lakers season is cinematic because no
one ever shuts up about it, whether it's mediocre or
halfway there or I mean, they have to be good
enough to win a championship because they're the Lakers, and
just like the Celtics, right it's supposed to be that way,

(39:29):
and right now it's not. And that's okay, I mean,
but it's been that way for quite some time. Lebron
hasn't really had that much success in the playoffs ever
since he arrived here. Now that could be for a
myriad of reasons. You don't have to point your finger
at Lebron if you don't want to. But that's just
the case. And it's funny because a lot of people

(39:50):
like you said, Levarn, they didn't have I think it
was more likely for the Lakers to get swept if
for Vegas odds, then it was for them to win
this series as far as Vegas was concerned, and that's
not what happened. They went and beat Houston, but we
put like a Houston ryder on before the series started,
like a month ago, and he said something to the

(40:13):
effect of, I don't know what everybody's thinking, JJ Reddick
is going to coach circles around Udoka and ended up.
I mean, that's I mean, And that was a month
before and before any of the games started, and that
is actually what ended up happening.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
So other priorities. You know, he's got a look.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
One time the guy slips and falls into a hot
white chick who happened to be somebody's wife. You know,
bad situation, Go figure, But what happened. You know, they
won a couple of gay I guess I spoke as
if white people if they win a couple of games

(40:53):
against ok c LeVar, I think you'll get some heat
in town because and everywhere, because it's a big story.
But I mean, I don't think okay See played particularly well.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
No, it was the first time SG hadn't scored twenty
points all year.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
In the game, he didn't have to, and they looked
pretty comfortable Yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 8 (41:12):
They were comfortable letting Check get involved. He got developed early.
They didn't adjust to it like you got to adjust
to it.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
The partner used to work for the Lakers, uh, you know,
and that like he was there with him when Kobe
won the championship in Orlando, and I was actually there
when they with him when they lost to the Celtics
and Paul Pierce got wheelchaired away and all that and
he pooped himself and I was there that night and

(41:41):
all that. Uh so, uh, my radio partner, who likes
to break down these things, you know, this time of
year and stuff. His expert analysis was, hey, chet Holmbrin's
pretty skinny. Maybe he'll get hurt. Yes, I think it's
a tall order for the Lakers to beat the there.
I mean, obviously during the regular season, I don't think

(42:03):
they got within twenty in any of their games. Maybe one,
but it's it's going to be over soon, and then
Lebron will do different things to call attention to him
while the conference finals in the NBA Finals are going on.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
You know what I think it is that By the way,
Petros Papadega is joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
You know what I think it is about the Lakers nowadays,
there's no real connection to the fan base or because
everything feels so you basically just handed the keys over
to Lebron and said, all right, you can take it
up for a yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
You know that's a little bit. I mean I could
say that about the Clippers too in town, not that
anybody really care.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
But the Dodgers are a different story.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah, Well, we have relationships with the players, right, It's
not like we don't talk to Otani, but Passe does
and different other people do. And back when when the
Lakers were on our station, and even if they weren't,
like we talked to Kobe would come on, we would
talk to Pownasol. Not every month or every week, but

(43:06):
they would come on a couple times a year. We
would have relationships with different players and they were more accessible.
And I don't know if it has something to do
with Lebron or the modern NBA, but these these these
teams don't even make these players available for their television
stations anymore other than the standard you know, post game

(43:27):
stuff that they have to do or what they're required
to do by the media. The players have become totally
insulated from the fan base, and it's more about a
tunnel walk. And I mean they just don't really feel
like they're regular people anymore, not that they ever really did.
I mean, the NBA, there's always been a separation between

(43:49):
the players and the fans because the players are so
weird looking, right, Like, they only look normal to one
another on a basketball next to each other, exactly right,
you know, And when they're not, you're like, wow, Derek
Fisher is pretty a lot taller than I.

Speaker 8 (44:02):
Thought, which is crazy, Like, little dude, do you mean
you're like, whoa hold on, wait, wait you're wait a minute,
I was talking bad about you, and.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
You had those two wind puppets, Wemby and Cheded Holmgren. Yeah,
it's like the last time they saw each other's outside
of car dealers.

Speaker 8 (44:18):
Yeah, let's sell some Hyundai's avatars.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
So so I think that there's an element of that,
But you are right, like, there is no like we
don't have the same connection. I mean, there were Asian
dudes in this town and Mexican dudes in this town
that would throw themselves on a funeral pire for Kobe, right.
I mean, I mean they felt like they knew him.

(44:44):
You know, people would run up on Kobe in a
parking lot and talk to him. I mean, I remember
these things from my radio career, and yeah, I was
critical of Kobe. Kobe was a confounding guy to cover,
you know, and we've forgotten a lot of that because
of the way he died. And that's probably But at
the same time, it was a lot different. I think

(45:04):
it's a really good question because it was a lot different.
I do think the NBA, at least in this town.
I can't speak for Philadelphia or Chicago or whatever, but
at least in this town, Los Angeles, we've lost our
connection with the teams that we used to that we
used to have just doing sports that just a symptom.
Like you said, is that just a symptom of.

Speaker 8 (45:26):
Where we are as a society, because I've heard that
about other fan bases too.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yeah. Well, but to me, it's like doing sports talk
radio locally, you know, like you really have your fingers
and feet in the ground, like in the dirt we talked.
We have access to everybody, football players, everybody, baseball. You know, nobody,
nobody is above coming on the show. Whether we have

(45:51):
a sponsored element to it, or they'll come and talk
to us for an hour. You know, they are accessible
to the fans in that way. The Dodge do tons
of events. I mean they have an event in a
Hyundai in down dealership in Downey tomorrow with David Vasse
and Alex Vesia. He's the Dodgers' best reliever. It's his

(46:12):
day off. He's going to a car dealership to do
an interview for an hour with a reporter. That's a
connection with the with the with the area Downey is
known as Mexican Beverly Hills. Uh so that's you know
that that's not even gonna happen with Luke Canard, you
know what I mean, not even gonna said Dalton connect

(46:36):
to do that. So so yeah, I do think it's
it's a problem with the modern NBA that they've lost
a lot of their connection with the fan base and
the players act like entitled TikTok rappers a little bit
more than they act like basketball players.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
I mean, that's fair. All that makes sense. By the way,
are you anything coming up on the show? You guys
got anything to morown? Any special guests, events, any remotes?
What's going on.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
On Friday a week from Friday, will be in Downde
at the BJS, all right for the Dodgers before the
Dodgers Angels game and Anaheim, so we'll get Mexican Beverly
Hills going for me.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Now, what is your what's your go to? What are
you taking home to the fam when you leave BJS?

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Hopefully just myself. My days of getting like six meals
for everybody and walk down too bad, those days are over.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Oldest trick in the book. Yeah, if you work, if
you're doing a remote, you eat there and then take
stuff to go as well too, so you can get
two meals out of the whole deal.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
What do I have lined up for today? I mean tomorrow?
Later today? Gosh, I wrote a whole bunch of stuff
and now I don't even remember.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
Well, you know you got the uh oh.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
You can get a Disneyland license plate now in California,
all for like one hundred and thirty bucks.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Eighty bucks a year. You can get a actual Disneyland
license plate for all the weird disney Head people you know.
Oh that's great, but show up at the park and
they're in like a different Disney gang, like Geppetto's toy
makers or or weird people.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Man.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Yeah, the Disney types are really weird. Yeah wow, And
you know, I'm very reluctant to talk to You know,
we all have that sixth grader in us that we'll
talk for hours with our friends about an amusement park.
You know, we still have that even though you get older,
you still do that talk about amusement parks and the
rides and all the different stuff. And whenever we talk
about Disneyland, it's always like some Disney head always you're wrong,

(48:42):
you know, you always get corrected. That's not whats toy
makers do you know, like they Disney dork sir? Like
I know somebody like that. Yeah, I kind of.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
I remember I took we took my son, I think
it was two at the time, my wife and and
we're just miserable. I can't stand the place and I'm
looking around going there are adults walking around with Chewbacca
backpacks on. We got to get out of here, like,
can we get we got it? We gotta leave asaf.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, the people that roll there, and they're like, you know,
I'm friends with the guy that operates the train on
Main Street. You know that it's the people, you know,
I mean, it's a place, it's a safe place for
for some very sad people. I have a very sad
guy like you know, But Disneyland doesn't do it for me,
although I do have to admit I took my kids

(49:33):
a while back to the Star Wars Land or whatever
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(52:17):
They're gonna do some digging. They're gonna find some stuff.
And as reported yesterday, Mike Rable and Diana Rossini rented
a private boat in Tennessee back in twenty twenty one,
when he was still then coach of the Tennessee Titans.
She was also pregnant at the time and two months

(52:41):
later had a child named a Michael. You know, just
that's you know, congratulations to them.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
And.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Apparently they were really cautious about pictures being taken. He
took a group picture, did Mike Rabel, but he wanted
to make sure that it did not get out publicly.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
They spent about two to three.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
Hours out there on the boat, and nobody was with them.
And apparently that is the latest dig and fined by
TMZ in this saga and this story that apparently is
not going away anytime soon. I thought we had about
seventy two hours of all right, everything's calm down, I

(53:26):
feel good about getting ready for the season. And now
Drake May's being asked about it again, and now this
story comes out with the boat rental back in Tennessee
back in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
So I don't know.

Speaker 8 (53:41):
I'll let you, I'll let you and Q have this topic.
I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait until the the what
week one, Yeah, schedule release week one.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
I'm gonna wait until week one to start.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
This Week one is what we've talked about. I mean,
I'm not sure if I mean, you do this often
where you try to take like a victory parade I'm
we're in May, like this thing will eventually move on.
Like to me, this is I mean, obviously it's incredibly damning.

(54:14):
It's awful to see the whole sit I mean, I'm
not really sure outside of the additional different ways they've
done things like where this whole thing is headed. But
it's pretty clear I think at this point that we've
got a time frame of what was happening. Over that
time frame. I mean, if you want to go down

(54:35):
that road, there was speculation that it might be his child.
Now this does not have anything to do with that,
because she was already pregnant, but the fact that they
would do siminglar this while she was the whole thing,
I mean, it feels like there was a relationship, a
love affair, whatever you want to call it. I think
that's been well established. So as more and more stuff

(54:55):
comes out, it just gets harder on Dinah's husband, Mike,
Brabel's wife, their families, and that's that's the toughest part
with all of this. But again, I think you go
back to the initial resignation by Diana. You know, she
obviously knew what was coming or what potentially could have
been out there. It just keeps going back to you know,

(55:17):
does she ever find herself in a place where she
can work again in this industry? And for Mike Rabel,
you know, has he been honest with his team? Has
he told them every part of this and and completely
come out and been upfront with it about what has
transpired and over what period of time? Because if he has,

(55:40):
I think they'll they'll look at him and say, okay,
like he owned up to it. But if he hasn't,
and as more comes out, that's where you lose credibility
and trust with the players. And that's at the current moment,
and it will it will, It will be the case
as even more stories like this come out. That's the
biggest issue, the biggest thing right now that I'm sure

(56:03):
that the Patriots are concerned about, worried about, or that
they're looking at if they were going to say eventually
to Mike K you need to move on.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
Yeah, I feel.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
Less confident in my stance from earlier this week based
on this latest development that came out of this latest report.
I just think that there's going to be more. I
think that this goes deeper than was initially thought. We

(56:37):
mentioned it yesterday, the part that I look back on
and go, maybe there was more to that is the
fact that Robert Kraft himself went to the New York
Post to try and get them to not release the photos.
And I think it's because maybe he had an understanding
that there was way more to this than just some

(56:58):
photos on a rooftop some nice fancy place in Arizona.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
And I and I.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
Think that the more the TMZ goes and digs around
into this, uh, the more they're gonna find stuff. And
I don't see this ending anytime soon.

Speaker 8 (57:13):
So it is it safe to say that the more
that's coming out, it's it's it was one of the
worst kept secrets.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
I mean, it just.

Speaker 8 (57:28):
Seems like and maybe this works too to Mike Rabels
like his advantage. I think a lot of people were
aware of it, and I wouldn't be surprised if if
Robert Kraft was aware of it, and I just maybe
that's working to his advantage. I And in terms of internally,

(57:52):
I think he'll be fine. Internally, for one reason or another.
I think he'll be fine. I just think the external
is going to be what continues to be perpetuated, the
fact that he still has a job Diana Rassini doesn't.
I think that's a thing. I think that's going to
continue to be a thing. I think the more that

(58:12):
these these stories come out, these peppered stories that come
out peppering the audience, peppering the and prodding the mob,
I think it goes one or two ways. It either
continues to go and then it catches it catches some

(58:32):
real momentum and then there's pressure. The public opinion will
create an enormous amount of pressure as it applies to
ownership decision makers for the New England Patriots. It could
be the impact on his personal, you know, relationship with
his family. It could be one of those two things.

(58:54):
Or it could subside and go away. I don't think
it will go away completely, I do not, but it
could subside to to ah. I guess a a level
where it's like move on, move on from it, and
maybe some people are there now. But for for what
it's worth, media just does not give away perfect storm scandals.

(59:20):
They just don't. They don't do it. This one is
even bigger. I think this one is even bigger than
the last one that came out with with Joey Taylor
and Charlie Dixon, this one is bigger.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Just think it's bigger. Yeah, So it's God if he resigns,
the storyline is still gonna perpetuate in the season.

Speaker 8 (59:42):
If he were to resign, Yes, it's still would it
would it would still, it would still continue on because
everything that the pay, just like everything the Patriots are
going to do, something's going to lead to you thinking
about the scandal.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Like, but if they don't think m is going to
keep reporting on this stuff unless there's legal issues that
go into it, like they can keep putting out these stories,
then people are gonna be like, well, yeah, neither of
them in the positions they're in anymore, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:00:12):
Yeah, but I think you got to look at it
from the standpoint of it's not really about Diana and
Mike if he were to resign at that point. Now,
it's about the New England Patriots. So whatever's taking place there,
I don't think good since.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Hell want to talk about it, you know what I'm saying,
They won't want to talk about I still just feel like, hey,
we've moved on. That's not the situation were presented.

Speaker 8 (01:00:33):
But that's but you and I both know that's not
how media works. They don't care if you want to
talk about it or not. There's interests they're going to
bring up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
It did always work when Bill Belichick was there, It
really did. I mean how many times did he just
plainly stand there and go, we're honest in sinnati, we're
honest and stay they.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
Had a murderer on their team, Yeah they did.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
They think about how many things from Spygate to deflate
Gate to that situation with Aaron Hernandez and that was
always ronissin snati.

Speaker 8 (01:01:05):
Yeah, well, let's see how it works. I'm I'm standing firm.
I don't want to say I shussed out.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
I mean, I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:01:16):
I don't feel like this is one of those topics
where I'm you know, I'm bodacious and boldly like laughing
and boisterous about it and stuff that. It's a very
sombering tale of a situation where two people's private business
was violated by the media and now you know there's
fallout from it. You know, it is what it is.

(01:01:38):
Why can't they be friends?

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
You know?

Speaker 8 (01:01:41):
I look, you know, why couldn't they have rented a
boat because they were celebrating her pregnancy, like Why can't
a guy and a girl be friends without it being
something connected?

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Or he needed a sober driver for that boat? I
told you, you know, I just think you cocktails?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Why did he need to coast? Isn't that how they
found out about all this?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Like that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
That's that's the other thing. I'm not really sure it
makes any sense. Because they asked him like, oh, you
guys both gonna be driving? I would be like, yeah, no,
only one's gonna be driving. But like, it's just I
mean there's that element of it too, where you're kind
of looking at going like if they were trying to
hide something they were not good at us.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Yeah, I do know this.

Speaker 8 (01:02:24):
If Mike ends up being a dope ass football player,
the story's coming back.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
Oh okay, if he becomes a five.

Speaker 13 (01:02:33):
Star, he ends up going over you're saying, like eighteen
years ago, Hey man, If Mike end up being a
stone cold baller, I mean, there's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Just going to be questions.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
Can we can I throw a a wager at you
a little different spin on whether or not this story
goes away?

Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
Week one?

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
How about is Mike we're able to coach of the
Patriots Week one?

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
You've said this before I know, I think, and I'm
I'm doubting it a little bit more and more.

Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
That's the one thing that I think I've changed on.
I thought they'd be able to weather the storm. This
I think continues to make it harder and harder.

Speaker 8 (01:03:13):
It's hard, man, Optics, Optics are everything. It's hard.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
This is a hard one. I would I.

Speaker 8 (01:03:22):
Would venture to say, I would venture to say.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
It will be. It will cut deep and it will
cut close.

Speaker 8 (01:03:32):
But I think Mike rabel Has and I think Robert Kraft,
they they have the jewels to do it. They'll pull
through it. It's just not going to be void of coverage.
That's all I'm gonna say. But I think they will
make it through. I think he will continue to coach.

(01:03:52):
But you know that that that leash is a little
bit shorter.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
You got it.

Speaker 8 (01:03:56):
You gotta manage it a whole lot differently than what
you have in the past, just based off of something
that didn't even have anything to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Do with football, which is wild, but it is what
it is.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
God, they were sloppy, I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:04:13):
Just I mean, at this point, at some point you
should just be like, look, I'm leaving him, I'm leaving her.
And let's like, let's just let's go ahead and do
this thing. Like yeah, it sounds like that's a full
fledged relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Yeah, Like I don't know, I don't I don't know
how to just look. Just look at it as if
when my wife was pregnant two months from giving birth
to my son, if she said, hey, I'm going to
go out on a boat for two to three hours
with this guy, I'd be like, huh yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
But if your wife, but if your wife's job consisted
of her being an insider, you know, you don't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Really know what she is.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
That's you're too much away from from giving birth and
you're out on a boat on a lake with a
head coach and it's just you two.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
I'm sorry. Like that a head coach.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
At some point, it's a coordinator. Yeah, coordinator doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
Well, clearly, I mean everything, you know, everything in a
different direction. Yeah, I mean it's all about the title.

Speaker 14 (01:05:22):
But just but if you got the head coach and
then you have your coordinators there and got a real
team effort going, and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Then if god forbid, it comes out that you know
mentioned this earlier, that the speculation know is that his
kid is that if that comes out, what the f man?

Speaker 8 (01:05:43):
This is just need to just go ahead and get Yeah,
it's it's got too much bone, man, too much meat
on that bone. Is this is and and it's not
you know again like legally speaking, this isn't. I don't
I don't know that this is a legal it's not
a legal story. This is not gonna be driven by
the legalities of anything un less and less rabel some way,

(01:06:07):
somehow gets let go or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Maybe you know, there's that And even Diana could say,
don't know, maybe I was pressure to resign.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
There's just that's potential.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Yeah, that's that's potential. Yeah, that's a good thought. That's
a good thought.

Speaker 8 (01:06:19):
I just I think it's more of a human interest story.
It's it's just these are the types of stories that
feed gossip hounds. And and if you hadn't noticed, our
society is full of bitches like it's full, it's full

(01:06:41):
of soft serve dough as people that all they look
for are stories like this to sit down and be like,
let me go through my story.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
What's the latest on Diana and Mike?

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
But we love story. I think it does two things.
This story has highlighted. And you know, we have this
idea that coaches are sitting in a film room seeing
their office or on a field coaching the whole time
they don't have time for anything else. Clearly that's not
the case here. And then for jan Orsini, you're looking like,
what does an insider do or how did they get
their information? Well, you're you're getting a little bit of
insight into that, I guess, but those two things. But look,

(01:07:18):
we love stories. I was just reading a post the
other day about Frank Abagnail to catch Me if you can,
and after doing like a deep dive, they've basically conjured
up that they don't know that any of it's true.
Like the only thing he made up was this entire
story that led to him getting all these speaking engagements
and making a movie about it. But there's something that

(01:07:38):
believed it was completely fabricated, that none of that movie
was actually true at all, Which is you think about it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:46):
It doesn't help that our name is Diana either. I'm
just saying, I mean, yeah, that's you know. I guess
Michael jack To made a song about Diane. Yeah, the
princess was Diana's one of the biggest, maybe the largest
scam scam those deals, you know, I.

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Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
By the way, phone the record, we talked about his
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of cell phone connection, which he was deeming that it's
been much improved, and I said, I don't know that
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single call a drop at some point where he cuts
out a bit.

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
I do think my favorite moment with him though, was.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Yelling, yeah, that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
Was that was impressive.

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Okay do we still have that drop? That was amazing.
He was ready.

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He was ready for that hockey tournament, and so was mom.
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Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
Okay, the league playoffs start tonight.

Speaker 8 (01:10:18):
She came back in that car ready to go. You
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You know where it is? Right?

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Yeah, that same thing for five year olds or I
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Chinese type. He had a thirty eight year old playing.

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One year, so may be having ringers, man, Yeah, Ringers
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Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
Good morning, Good morning, guys, Good morning.

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There he is.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Uh so, I mean, uh, LaVar was you know making
mention of this earlier? But you know, you and Brady
take a boat out for two three hours.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
There we go and we're there. You want to throw
in there?

Speaker 8 (01:11:27):
Did that's ten dollars?

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Cute group thing.

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We can have you him with his linebacker day.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Much right, Yeah, no, no, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Yeah, they're all being jealous Albert because you happen to
ask me to come on the podcast and and and
I'll be I don't know if you want to let
them know this, but uh, I feel like you're in
a bit of a pinch based on the timing of fun.
We did it when you asked, so, Uh, I was worried.
I felt like I was trying to help you out
with it, and you did.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
And I really appreciate Brady and me and Jonas. Jonas,
do you want to do a media podcast?

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
I'd love to.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
Yeah, let's let's you know, we have all the answers, then, right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:06):
We'll rank the top ten douchebags that play nice guys
on the air.

Speaker 5 (01:12:11):
We'll do that and that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
To ten.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
Right, that's true. Yeah, that is a that's fair. That's
a fair point.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Cutting from the that'd be like trying to make cuts
on the USA.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
National basketball right, you know, because yeah, there's a lot
of talent that will be left off the roster.

Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
I do want to just ask you this.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
Has there been any change in the public perception locally
there of this Rabel situation.

Speaker 5 (01:12:42):
There in in and around New England.

Speaker 4 (01:12:45):
I know nationally it's a it's a different view, but
any change is the story develops on whether or not
he's going to be the coach there week one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
I mean, I I don't really think so. I think
it's I think there's an acceptance that like it's going
to follow them around for a while, and obviously it's
still has it still is with the developments that seemed
to come out every four or five days, you know,
and then you're going to have the schedule release, and
then you're going to have when the team goes on

(01:13:16):
the road, and so you know, I think until the
games start, this is going to follow them around. When
the game starts, this will probably follow them around. I'd
be I'd still be stunned if Mike Brable isn't the
coach of the Patriots in twenty twenty six. You know,
I do think it's one of those things though, where

(01:13:37):
you know, it can create a situation where a year
or two for now, maybe ownership has a little less
patience with you because of because of what you took
the organization through. So you know, look like there's a
twenty five year relationship there between the Crafts and Mike Brable.
You know, I think there's a belief in who he

(01:13:58):
is as a person despite everything that's happen happened, and
I still think, you know, like there's a good person
in there, like despite all this, and you know, I
think for there's also like the sugar high that they
got off of last year's success, you know, which after
they had had to go through everything at the end

(01:14:20):
that they went to a Bill Belichick and the one
year at Girodd Mayo being right back on the mountaintop.
You know, I'm sure it was intoxicating for the craft So.

Speaker 6 (01:14:29):
You know, I don't doubt that every intention that they.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Have is to go forward with him as their head coach.
And if you look at their actions, I think all
of their actions have been sort of centered on protecting
his employment. Now, you know, I does does does that
last forever?

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
It doesn't last forever, you know, And it might they
have a little less patience with them a year or
two from now as a result of all of this.
I mean, that's that's something I could see.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
I Mean, I'm just trying to figure out how they
have time to do all what they were doing. I mean,
you're they're renting boats to Yeah, they're going to Sedna
on this these getaway trips, and you seem it just
it feels like to Jonas's point, what you kind of
touched on that, you know, obviously if he wasn't forthcoming
about all of this, that could impact the trust and

(01:15:15):
credibility he has with the team. But also you know,
with what he says he's actually doing when he's doing
his job as a head coach, Like, doesn't that come
into question at some point?

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Yeah? And I think that that's the thing Brady is like,
I mean, look like here's where it is locally, right,
And I think this is the best way to describe
like the way that the general public is looking at this,
it's like everything's great now, right they went fourteen and three,
But I mean you don't think that, like if they
start one and four, there are going to be questions

(01:15:46):
about you know, his focus to coach. Of course there is,
you know, that's the way these things work, and that's
the sort of the bed they made for themselves, you know.
Like so I just I think you're right like that
that piece of it does does certainly come into play.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Protects him right now is the success that they had
and a track record that he asked from Tennessee. He's
obviously a fantastic head coach and it has done a
good job now in two different places. But you know,
if not for that success, there would be a problem
right now. You know, it would be a bigger problem
I think than it is right now. If if the

(01:16:22):
success doesn't continue the way we saw it in year one,
some of those questions certainly come up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Abe.

Speaker 8 (01:16:29):
I would love to continue the line of questioning on
Mike Vrabel and the Rassini situation, but due to the
fact that you know what, it's going to continue on
for a while, I'm going to switch topics and I'm
going to go to a different, a different place, a different,
a different space, and I'm going to ask you about
the Aaron Rodgers situation. It seems as though hearing what

(01:16:56):
ownership had to say about the situation and patients are
running thin, and we had the question before. I think
we asked you just every week does he signor does
he report in for the mini camps? Does he come
back for the mandatory mini camps that are coming up

(01:17:18):
pretty quickly here, it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Seems like that is like the next soft deadline. Now,
OTAs do begin before that, and as you guys know,
that's really the start of like what you consider football practice, right,
But like last year, I mean, Mike Tomlin didn't say
it ahead of time, but he didn't concede it afterwards
that this was sort of a deadline for him. He

(01:17:43):
did want to have you know, Aaron Rodgers in place
for the mini camp of the veteran mandatory Mini camp
if Rogers was going to play in twenty twenty five,
and so using that as sort of like a guy,
I would say, you know, like that was a coach
who had been in place for I mean, he was
going into his nineteenth season. You know, this year, they've

(01:18:05):
got a coach is going into his first year there.
So at least on paper, be even more important for
Mike McCarthy to have Aaron Rodgers in for that mini
camp than it was for Mike Tomlin last year. So
you know, yeah, I think you're right to point at
those dates. Those were the dates last year for him,
and I would I still think that he's going to

(01:18:27):
play in twenty twenty six, but I'm not sure that
anyone knows one way or the other for sure, other
than maybe Aaron Rodgers himself. So we're sort of right
back where we were were a year ago, you know
which I don't think anybody should.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
Be blown away by Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, Lead
Content Strategies at the MMQB, joining us here on Fox
Sports Rady.

Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
You can get him on x at Albert Breer.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
So you did a deep dive on the process the
Raiders went through in selecting Fernanda Mendoza as their core quarterback.
What stood out to you what was unique about their
process as opposed to maybe others who have had the
same decision to make at the top of the draft recently.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
I mean, I think it was like one thing that
was sort of interesting with the hard pivot right like
where like they had known, I mean, obviously the quarterback
was going to be a need for them, and you
know like that there could be the opportunity in the
twenty sixth track to get one all the way back
in September, and it was just interesting to look at
like the different guys that they went out and saw,

(01:19:32):
the first quarterback that they went out and took a
hard look at was jeoh Matier, who got off to
a nice started Oklahoma, and so the GM his first
you know, live exposure to one of the quarterbacks with
Jeometier playing against Auburn in September as they were on
their way to play Washington, the Raiders were and so

(01:19:54):
like they they spent a lot of the fall, you know,
exhausting resources to try and get eyes on as many
guys as they could, and then you know, I think,
you know, they got to the middle of November and okay,
it's pretty clear like Fernando is gonna be one of
the guys we're gonna be looking at, and Dante Moore
is gonna be one of the guys we're looking at,

(01:20:15):
and so you know, they sort of focused on those
two guys at the very end. Interestingly enough like that
that Thanksgiving weekend, Jonas they did go see Fernando Mendoza
play at Purdue, they also went and subbign and Soarsby
that weekend he was one of the guys in their
list and going and playing you know for Cincinnati against

(01:20:36):
tcu UH and then after that they got another exposure
to Mendoza in the semi final against Oregon and then,
of course in the championship game against so I think
it was sort of an interesting process in that they
cast a pretty wide net at the beginning and then
by the end. You know, the general manager got to

(01:20:58):
see Mendoza live three times the span of amount month
and a half, which is a lot for a general manager.
You know, there's so many other things that fall into
the general manager's purview. You know, over the course of
the season, that he's going out and seeing one college
player three times, it's a pretty pretty healthy investment and
making sure you're getting the right guy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Albert, I want to switch gears and talk about the
NFL officials. It sounds like they're about ready to agree
to something or at least vote on the current agreement
with the NFL has provided them for their CBA. Did
do you get a sense that this is going.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
To go through.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
We're not gonna have to worry about this as a
distraction this season.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Yeah, it feels like it. I mean, just to update
people who aren't maybe following this is closely, Brady, I
know you've probably read up on it, but like they
had so like an email went out to the officials
earlier this week, and it kind of took them through
the key points of what is maybe not quite an
agreem but getting close to it. Have a ratification vote,

(01:22:03):
and I would think they're going to vote it through. Now,
you know, I remember about the officials. It's a little
different than the players, right, like just in that they
they are they don't need the money the same way
the players do. In that like, this isn't from a

(01:22:23):
lot of those guys, This isn't their livelihood.

Speaker 8 (01:22:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
A lot of the guys are successful doctors or lawyers
or like, this is not their primary source of income,
you know, so like it's not nothing the money they're making,
but they're also okay if they're not totally satisfyed with
the conditions of a deal to fit out and wait
for more, you know, which is how the lockout happened,

(01:22:47):
and have the lockout carried into the season back in
twenty twelve. Whereas like for the players, that is their livelihood,
that is their primary source of income, so you take
it away, it hits them a little bit harder. So
I would expect like there to be you know, I think,
like some healthy discussion about this and everything else amongst
the officials. But the fact we've been pushing it to

(01:23:08):
a ratification vote, the fact that the barging committee has
something to put in front of of the officials themselves.
It tells you that they are closing in any deal,
and that's good for everybody, you know. I don't I
don't think anybody wants to go through what we went
through in twenty twelve.

Speaker 8 (01:23:22):
Again, speaking on deals, CBA is coming up, eighteen games
is being discussed. I think there was a statement from
you that you you basically said that Craft's arguments for
the eighteen game season come across as disingenuous.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
Can you can you expand on that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Yeah, So, like what I was saying, and I've heard
a lot of owners use this line, and I think
it's kind of garbage. So, like, you know, they will
treat it like it's like a twenty game aggregate, right,
and so well, it's no big deal if we go
from sixteen and four to seventeen and three or seventeen
and three eighteen and two. I just hate that line

(01:24:08):
of of of logic because it's just, I mean, it's
it's sort of insulting to everybody involved, you know, because like,
look like if you're a veteran player who's going to
be playing whatever it is, sixty snaps a game in
the regular season. Those preseason games are not the same

(01:24:29):
as regular season games, you know, like and it's it's
it's just sort of like, I think it's sort of
insulting everybody's intelligence for them to say, oh, well, we're
just changing it so like one preseason games becomes a
regular season game. I mean, it's just it's not a
real way of looking at it. So like let's just
call it what it is, which is it's more damage

(01:24:51):
on guys' bodies. It could shorten guy's careers. It makes
it harder for guys to make it the free agency healthy. Right,
So now instead of having to make it through seventeen
game seasons, you got to make it through eighteen game seasons. Now,
instead of it being sixty eight games that you got
to make it through to get it to be eligible

(01:25:12):
to become an unrestricted free agent, it's seventy two games.
You know, there are all those things that are sort
of a I think there are all those things that
are factors, you know, and like referring to this as
just moving one preseason game and turning it into a regular.
It's just for me, it's insulting to the public to

(01:25:34):
present it that way. But this has been some one
of their talking points. And I'm not singling out Robert
Kraft here like he's used that line. Jerry Jones or
all of them have used that line. The commissioners use
that line. I just think it's consultant to the public.
So if we're gonna have a real discussion about this,
let's call it what it is and acknowledge that there's
going to be a little more of the players are

(01:25:56):
going to have to take on here, and that there
needs to be a giveback for what the players are
going to be going through to make this happen.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
One of the things alber Ber joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio that Craft points out as the international aspect.
You know, each team will get an opportunity to play
an international game. So let me ask you how realistic
is the possibility because I've heard this thrown around two
and maybe Roger Goodell's the one who talked about it,
But how realistic is the possibility that not only are

(01:26:26):
we going to get a permanent team in another country,
but we're going to get an entire division over in
Europe at some point. Is that is that a realistic
possibility at this point?

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
I mean just to tell you, just to give you
the history here. So back in two thousand and seven
they launched the International Series, and so that was the
first regular season game in London, and they did the
time was the goal of having a team full time
in London within fifteen years, So that would have been
twenty twenty two. So they didn't hit that goal. And

(01:27:04):
one of the main reasons why it's actually really interesting
is they figured there would be over that period of
time advances in air travel that would cut through some
of the logistical problems that you have in trying to
put a team over there.

Speaker 7 (01:27:18):
And you know, I.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
Think you can, you can game it up to a
certain degree, but it becomes a lot harder when you're
talking about Okay, like now we're talking of teams have
to play midweek games. Now, all right, what happens if
Seattle draws London in the first round of the playoffs
and you're talking about, like the Seahawks having to go

(01:27:39):
play in London in a one off situation that there's
no planning for, no planning around, Like that's hard, you know,
So those logistical hurdles have been I think too difficult
to overcome again because some of the advances and travel
that maybe they expected at time have it happened. So
what they're doing instead is like putting more games in

(01:28:04):
London and putting more games in other cities and trying
to grow it that way.

Speaker 6 (01:28:09):
I just I don't know what the answer is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Jonas to to to to to a logistical issue. I mean,
at one point, believe it or not, they had actually
thought about like having a UK team with having having
like the Atlanta be the the US base, because you
can because that's such a travel hub, right, so when
you're doing like Tuesday workouts, you could fly guys in

(01:28:34):
to Atlanta and work them out and then fly them
over to London if they're signing with the team. But
there are so many, so many of those little logistical
things that you have to overcome that I think at
this point it's just more like, how can we grow
it in different ways other than putting a team there
until those logistical issues are solved, And maybe one of

(01:28:54):
them is putting a whole division over there. But I
don't know, I don't know that they feel like putting
a whole division over that wouldn't like, that wouldn't solve everything.
And like you know, to support a whole division over
there is different than supporting one team, you know, So
I don't know if they're there from a popularity standpoint

(01:29:15):
in that part of the world either.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Yet what's interesting about that, Albert is when we went
in twenty ten, when I was a part of the
Denver Broncos and we went to play the San Francisco
forty nine ers. That was what someone told me the
vision was, and that was kind of the only logistical
way to make it work because obviously you've got your
six divisional games that you would be able to play
without really impacting the players, coaching staffs, et cetera too

(01:29:39):
much with the travel. But then it would be traveling
to the Eastern seaboard. That wouldn't be that different from
for example, the Seattle Seahawks and when you look at
their travel or the Los Angeles Rams going from the
West coast to the East coast. So that was the
idea that was, you know, again told to me way
back when, sixteen years ago. But it is interesting to

(01:30:00):
think that with this push towards these international games, there
does seem to be a desire or at least a
bit more fandom from really a lot of the grassroots
I think were laid by NFL Europe. So I think
it'd be cool personally, Like I remember talking to someone
about this and I was like, I would have loved
to have been one of the first players to go
over there and be a part of a team over there.

(01:30:22):
I just think it'd be really neat to you know,
see how that country accepts the sport or adopts it.
And I remember even just going for that game, like
a lot of the German fans who came, they loved
American football, like they thought it was the coolest thing
in the world, in the scheme and the tactics to it.
They were huge fans. So I look, again, it's a
pipe dream. I don't know if it happens anytime soon,

(01:30:43):
but it'd be really cool to see an entire division
there in my.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Opinion, Yeah, I would love it, Like and I think,
you know again, like I think the logistical issue is
like if they could overcome that, I think they would
love to do it, like a lot of these I mean,
and it's part of it, like you just have to
I mean, the NFL fifteen twenty years ago came to
the point where they the the owners felt like we

(01:31:07):
we it's it's hard for us to grow much more
domestically than we already have. So how do we grow out?
And the way you grow out is by adding inventory? Right,
So that's adding a seventeenth game, adding an eighteenth game.
That's expanded playoffs and that that's going back to la
with not one but two teams, and that's going international,
you know what I mean. And that's where the real
growth is for them. And you know, I think it's

(01:31:31):
if you've ever been to one of the games over there,
and Brady, you know, like you said, you experienced it.
It's a totally different atmosphere. It's it's a cool thing.
And like I I I love the idea of it.
I just I'm just not sure how they would make
it work logistically.

Speaker 6 (01:31:48):
But you know, like again, like it is it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
You know, you see it in Germany. I mean there's
great history there too. I mean, Michael Strahan was born
in Germany and like his story is kind of the
one of how football got popular in Germany in the
first place. Is that post World War Two you had
all of these, you know, US military bases in Germany,
and so like it became there there there became like

(01:32:13):
a grassroots popularity there that carried over into NFL Europe.
So you know, I could think by going over there
and making every team have one international gaming year, which
is what they would go to if they had eighteen
games right where you'd have a full six you have
a sixteen game, you know, plate sixteen games over there
every year. You'd continue to grow it, you know, and

(01:32:36):
you continue to try to build build the popularity to
the game to a point where maybe someday you could
have teams over there.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
Good stuff. Abe always appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
He is Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
at the MMQB. Get him on x at Albert Breer
and a Thursday tradition here on the show.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
We'll do it again next week.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
All right, thanks, thanks al Letting.

Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
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