January 8, 2026 • 42 mins
Today on 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington discuss the Raiders dysfunction as an organization. Plus, the guys react to Todd Bowles staying with the Bucs, a funny ICYMI, and more!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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But check out our new channel on YouTube. Begin just
search two pros FSR and subscribe. Do you guys have
an idea what your next song is going to be?
Have you narrowed it down? I got like two or
three that I'm working on all of you.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, bangers, Yeah, I bet I might have something for
the next hour.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh yeah, what can we do it as a team?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Because you take too long? You're like that girl who
takes forever getting ready. That is fair, and you're like, yeah,
I'll just I'll be in the car an hour later
you finally walk out.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You are that person.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I just the problem for me is I have to
get it done during the show or it's not going
to get done.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
What do you mean, by the way, LaVar, haven't we
been placed with Jonas before where he's like always last
to come downstairs to leave.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh, we're always waiting on Jonas because he's the star.
Hold on a second, Oh, hold.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
On, wait, Brady is telling me that I'm the last
to arrive. You're telling me no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
When we're all leaving to go someplace in the mornings. Now,
I'm usually working out, so I'll push it to get there,
but I'm always.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
There on time. I will say.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Jonas is hitting you with some truth though, because for
the show, like our running deal is, which is funny
because by the last day, it's like he's clearly going
to come walking in literally, like it's going to be like, yeah,
literally a minute ago, like literally, But.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
But Jonas does that every day here, It's which is interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, I sit in my car and be chilling, like
just chilling, and I'll be like looking at my clock
and I'd be like, he gets in here literally fifty three,
fifty four, fifty five, sometimes even fifty six.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Every day. It's the wildest thing every day, Jay, the
wildest thing.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Just be sitting there like, bro, like you cut it.
Y'all cut it so close. Y'all cut it so close.
But hey, that's y'all doing.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Can verify. Yeah, they cut it close. Man, I'll be chilling. Though.
You want to know who ain't last?
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Me?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I ain't never gonna be last. So why would you
back to the original question, why would you need to
get your show your song selection done during the show
or you know why I told you yesterday? You know why?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Oh, because I'm well, because I'm out of here like
I'm onto it, Like my life has has time slots.
So so we're talking up out of this time three.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
To five fifty five? We got you?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, like one one am one, one thirty am two
three what what?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (04:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Six? What time are we done with this show? Five
fifty five? Oh yeah, five fifty five yeah? Six. This
is not true.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You participate, You participate in the group text, which I'd
like you to open up your phone right now.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, not because there's often there is a there's a tweet.
I'd love for you to read. We have a nice quote.
Here we go. All right, you don't want to read
that show, I don't care. I think we have the sound. Actually,
it's even real. I think did Joe Judge really say that? Hey, Patty,
we have that sound right, the Joe Judge sound. It's
in sound you want to right now? I mean this
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is a real drop. This actually exist. I thought this
was like parody. I can't talk. Oh look, I said
this was a neighbor. I mean it's yea was next
door neighbor.
Speaker 8 (04:49):
Yeah, like if you watch those documentaries, my house is
on the TV in.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The next door.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
Yeah, the detectors knocked on my door to find out
where he was.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (04:56):
I mean we just kind of talked to the organization
right there.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
But I mean to have obviously chaotic.
Speaker 8 (05:01):
But again, those players that year handle that extremely well.
You know, it came out of that chaos and we
had some really good direction inside with some veterans and
different guys. And you have something like that happen, it's
you know, how do you handle something like that? You know,
how do you deal with something like that? So you know,
you keep the folks on what you can handle, what
you can control, which is at that time was football
for us, and then went through the stretch and we're
able to have success that he was twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
We end the season here as well, So there you go.
Aaron Hernandez being his neighbor, was the comp to lame
kiff and leaving.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I mean both are chaotic, right all right, but one
is clearly a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Body in the face.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Well there you go, I mean, murder one of those
what you do when they bring in the person that
does the pr training, just for those who don't know, you.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Might want to stay maybe from that, every team.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Brings in a nice manner woman who comes in and
they help give you directives as to what to avoid
saying and controversial anything that speaks for the entirety of
the team. You know, just speak for yourself if you're
going to say something, and try not to speculate all
these different little tactics.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
They stay positive, don't say negative stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
This would fall into the category of away from that one,
like it would be in the highlight reel of things
you don't want to venture down that path and make
comparisons to in fact, not like not making comparisons.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
That's probably another one.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, well, I thought it was pretty extreme, but I
guess he got his point across. I mean, if you're
saying that this is you've dealt with chaos before and
that you can block out the chaos and get results,
I guess you gave one of the most extreme examples
that you could give, so drove his point home.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
That's for certain. I understood where he was coming from.
Definitely did.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Well, there you go, and I won't go any further
with it, because why there's this lady or a person
that they bring in and they tell you these are
the topics that you get hit like, these are the
things you know, advice to things to stay away from, Like, Okay,
you could discuss this, but maybe you shouldn't discuss that.
You know, definitely should stay away from these things. So
I'm just not going not going to go any further
(07:17):
with that. So ay, But they keep making documentaries about it.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Though, so they like his house is in a lot
of different so we needed documentaries there, you need another
one of those, all right, well with that piece, one more,
you know. With that being said, there was also the
subject of Mario Cristobal. We mentioned the game preview. For
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those of you wanted the Quinns win on that, go
back and listen to the podcast. That's where you can
find that if you want to make some money on
this game. But Ole Miss and Miami are there, and
so Mario Cristibaal was asked about, you know, maybe some
some info that might be passed along during the portal
process of college football and a wit like this.
Speaker 9 (08:03):
It's a weird, wild time when you have a transfer
portal open while you're trying to prepare to compete for
a national championship. Did you guys have any concerns about say,
outgoing players from your program. Maybe rival programs are in
the semi finals, or elsewhere reaching out to them, trying
to get even intel on your own programs as you
try to win a national championship.
Speaker 10 (08:24):
Well, I think it happens all the time, and if
we don't think it is happening, then we're kidding ourselves.
But quite honestly, I don't blame the players. I blame
the adults. We created the system, right, we're supposed to
be setting the example. Right, We're supposed to be setting
the standard as it relates to everything. So when you
create a system that has as many holes as it does, well,
(08:46):
then you know, shame on you if you're surprised by
some of the results that come with it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So it's a sensible response. Yeah, that's the portal, your guys,
is portal, very.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Sensible it it's gotten a lot of flack of late
I guess do we just want to talk about this now?
The Demond Williams situation, Well, it lends to like some
of what's happening, and it is odd that all these
things have to be connected to Lane Kiffin. It's like
he seems to be at the center of all of this.
(09:18):
But for those who don't know, Demon Williams quarterback at
the University of Washington really talented player. He signed an
agreement to go back to you dub this upcoming season. However,
after signing the agreement, he went into the transfer portals
trying to go into transfer portal. Supposedly, because he signed
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this what it was deemed to be a binding agreement
with the university, the University of Washington will not put
him into the portal. However, it's become public that he
has a desire to go into the portal. Now, what
makes matters even crazier is the head coach Jed Fish
has the same exact agent as Demon Williams does.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That is interesting. You know what I find interesting as
this is all unfolding with looking at the competitive nature
of what the portal represents to the elites. The non
elites are the ones that get lost in all of this.
And I think that listening to coach Christovaal what he
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had to say is so relevant because while we will
sit here and talk about the elite QBS or the
elite player, that these these you know schools want and
are after and are willing to pay all of these
dollars for that transfer portal is also a place where
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castaways are ending up and people aren't really talking about that.
Guys are ending up in the portal not because they
want it to be in the portal, because they're being
basically cut. They're being cut from their team. We don't
want you anymore, you know. And I started thinking to myself,
(11:08):
it's like, man, I was thinking a GM being hired.
Now it's like, okay, you got to manage the money
and this, that and the other, and blase blah, like,
oh I get it, and you know, recruitment this.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Then they are now cutting players.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
You didn't cut players back in the day you came in,
if you came in on scholarship, Like yeah, they'll threaten you,
I will send you out of here. Maybe they'll give
you a lot of you know, punishment trainings and force
you to quit or different things like that. There were
different tactics to get a guy to leave the team,
but you weren't. You didn't hear guys getting cut. These
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young men are getting let go from their team, like
basically telling them, Okay, you are making this, you're not
going to make. That's their way of saying, get out,
you're not making this next year, You're not going to
make this amount of money, you're going to take a
bay cut or this where we want to go in
a different direction.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
You're going to be like the.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Third string, fourth string, fifth string quarterback on his team,
or receiver, whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It may be.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And these kids are and this isn't being talked about,
but they're being actually placed in a position where what's
being said to them is equating to them having to
go into the portal. They have to go into the portal.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I know somebody who was told specifically i'd get in
the portal ify, were you correct? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Correct, It's just I mean, I don't feel like that's
kind of a SAYD commentary.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Man, it is.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
And I think there's a lot of different ways you
can talk about this, and I think there's two sides
to all this. So as much as it's unfortunate for
those kids, And I remember I talked about this with
Parker Livingstone, the wide receiver at Texas.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
You know, he had a really good season this year.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
He actually I remember seeing in Week one at Ohio
State catching some some big time passes for them. As
a freshman, he was their third lenning receiver and he
felt like he had to put his name in the
portal because of what the coaches had said to him.
I mean, again, this is a guy who was their
third leading receiver in yards and receptions, second in touchdown receptions.
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Like he stepped up in a big way. He was
the roommate arch Manning, and they're brand and other guys.
So it's incredibly unfortunate. However, some people would say, though,
in order for other guys to capitalize, like this is
the system that we have, Like some of the top
end guys wouldn't be able to make as much as
they were able to make, or other players make as
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much as they were able to make if not for
the ability to leverage themselves put themselves in the portal,
et cetera. So this is the downside of it, right,
Like we hear to your point, we only hear about
the upside of what guys are making and some of
the star players and those things. We don't hear about
the guys that get pushed out or we seldom here
(13:59):
about that.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Most go okay, I thought you were gohead well.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And and what I was going to say is, I
think if if we didn't have let's say we didn't
have nil, but we had the transfer portal, it would
be the same exact thing. The difference would be just
the scholarships, which I would say, I'm obviously a little
younger than you. So one of the things like you
kind of touched on there and talking about, was I
(14:23):
know guys who got there a Notre Dame, and it
became very evident that the coaching staff was going to
do everything they could to make that player's life tough
so that they would probably quit or transfer, whether it's
like the early morning workouts or even for like class scheduling,
they weren't able to get the class scheduling they really
(14:45):
needed in order to get, you know, their degree that
they wanted slash for practice everything else, like their life
was going to be someone miserable and that that was
like one of those tactics. And so at least it's
not hidden like now, at least you know somebody coaches
at least their forthright, they're honest with them. They'll say, hey, man,
I think you need to get in the portal, like
we're going to go with someone else. I mean to me,
(15:08):
this whole entire scenario for young people, there's good and
bad to it. I think one of the good things
that comes from that is even if you have someone
to tell you like, hey, you're not good enough or
we don't think you're good enough.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
It's a moment where you can either take that and
you could do what you want with it.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
You can keep pursuing it, keep proving them wrong, or
you can you know, take that as like, all right,
maybe this isn't the path for me, Maybe I need
to go in a different direction. And someone's trying to
give me a hint that, like, this path is only
going to lead so far that I need to start
thinking about the future. Because one of the things I
think you find is some of those people you're talking about,
they exhaust all efforts to basically take scholarships from either
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lower level guys who are trying to come up or
high school level kids and opportunities, and they don't really
have a future in the sport, but they're exhausting all
efforts to make as much money as they can in it.
And I can't faulting for that. But that is a
cause and effect of where we're at right now.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
The problem now done.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
The biggest issue I have with this, and my major
concern is that it's not based off of development and education.
It's my biggest it's the biggest problem I have with
this is because now it's like, okay, so now it's
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okay to change the narrative.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
For so long, athletes have been.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Judged for the idea of I'm focused on being an athlete.
Do you understand what type of ridicule you exposed yourself
to if you said I'm a football player, I want
to play football. Do you understand the type of scrutiny
(16:55):
and the type of criticism that would come your way
if you said something as simple as I just want
to focus in on ball.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Had to be a student athlete.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Right, shamed, shamed to theteenth.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Power and now and now.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
It's okay, Now it's okay to actually, oh wait, like
when do we mention education here?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The whole point of what was just made in terms
of maybe this is, you know why it's a waste
of a scholarship because you're not going to help our
football team on Saturday, But you gave me a scholarship.
I would I didn't. First of all, somebody isn't just
given a scholarship. You have to earn it, like it's
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an investment. They have to invest this money in you
to come here, so something made them feel like you
should be here, and we're going to give you money
to be here. If you don't turn out to be
the player, which happens more often than anything else, you're
going to have more guys that aren't going to be
pro material than guys that are going to be pro
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material that play on your team. Let's be clear on
that point of it. So when you realize that you, oh,
I'm one of the many. I'm one of the many
that aren't going to make it to the next level,
you have to look at education still as the major
staple of what college football represents, even in the name, image,
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likeness era of time. And that is a very very
poor commentary. It's a very sad conclusion to come to
that it is not. And now you can no longer
deny the fact that's saying student athlete or they're not
employees of your university. You can no longer avoid the
(19:01):
conversation of what this truly is. You are looking for
your workforce, wherever it is the portal or at the
high school level, you are seeking your workforce, and if
they prove out, you pay them, and you pay them more.
If they don't, you move on from them, and you're
trying to find that next person to plug that gap
(19:24):
and make your team a better team. Leave it there.
Take the narrative away from these kids and acting as
though all they're about is the money. All they want
is the money. Oh, it's all about money. The kids,
the kids, the kids, the kids. What are you after, university?
What are you after? Coaching staff?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
What are you after?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Because I barely hear education anymore at all.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I barely hear it. I barely hear it.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
There was a couple of days last week where jordas
that we're working and you weren't working. And one of
the things as we talked about is no, no, Well
we haven't talked about the college basketball portion of this,
which is that's been the most like evidence of the
lack of concern for education and development if you follow
what's happening in college basketball right now, like you had
(20:16):
a guy who was drafted who's trying to come back
and play in college basketball after playing pro overseas, and look,
and after talking to some folks, I'll go as far
as even saying conference commissioners, I'd ask say what's your
take on this?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
And their take was, Hey.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Look, as long as they didn't sign a contract, we
believe that they should still be at Liberty to come
back and play if.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
That's the case, So as long as they didn't sign.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Which I know they've moved the goalpost a bit with
some of that discussion and language around it, But it
feels like college basketball has always been one step ahead
of college football because of it's a one and done.
So I think I think when college basketball went away from,
you know, forcing players to either choose to go to
pro out of high school or choosing to be in
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school for at least a couple of years, few years
they went away from that same model too. Like every sport,
that essentially made it easier and faster to get to
the professional level, and basketball was the first to do so,
they all of a sudden through education out the window.
I mean John cala Perry's pitch when he was back
at Kentucky was well, they'll come back and get their degree.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
He wasn't worried about it when.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
They were there, just as long as they were eligible,
which you know, those guys weren't even probably stepping foot
in the classroom if they were, was probably nothing too
difficult During the time there, So like I look at
it and say, like this framework has been set for
a while now with players who have then had the
opportunity in basketball to walk in and walk out like that,
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and so now in football, I think the tough thing
is we've enabled them to be able to only make
it or only you know, probably oritize money as opposed
to development. And by the way, look like anything else,
it's like a bell curve. You've got your you know,
ten percent on one side that that's ultimately the only
thing they care about. You have the ten percent on
the other that it doesn't matter because they're not good
(22:16):
enough or they don't even have that opportunity, and the
other eighty percent in between.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
It's probably a blend.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Does money matter, you know, most for some of them, Yeah,
but it's not everything. Does money matter as much for others?
But maybe it's about that coach they're going to play for.
Maybe it's about that education they're going to get in
the degree. I think it differs, and I think we
tend to, you know, get frustrated in all of this.
But the truth of the matter is, hopefully the adults
in the room, the parents and the advisors for some
(22:45):
of these guys, they do care enough to work with
the school and say, you know, hey, we want to
come back here and finish or whatever the case is,
whether they leave earlier, whether they're transferring out, there's some
way of keeping some goodwill and making sure that they
come back have the opportunity to get a degree one day.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Because that's the scariest thing I think when I look.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
At these young people, I'm like, they're gonna be leaving
college and yeah, they may not have any debt, and
they may have some you know, some money in.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
There in hand, and you have no flag, no nation,
no no network, no network, nothing to build anything off
of or even focus.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
No even no focus on education, correct, Unlike what do
I want to do outside of football?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
You know, That's why I liked what Quinn Yours did
because Quinn Ewers, after his final year at Texas, there
was apparently an offer on the table, a deal for
him to go elsewhere, and he turned it down because
he's Texas was his dream and he didn't want to.
He just didn't want to end his career playing for
somebody else, almost as you know, kind of a mercenary.
(23:46):
And so he went into the draft, he got drafted
seventh round whatever. But it was almost like it felt
rare to hear somebody of that stature, who could go
get a paycheck, who could go get a payday somewhere else,
who said, man, I want to be loyal to the school,
allably loyal.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I went to school for rehab education. I majored in sociology.
I'm minored in psychology. I stayed in school for obviously too.
I wanted to be like my mom and help help
kids beyond the game. I always was my focus, even
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as a player, was to help help kids, help help
people in development. If if my only worth and my
only value was me playing the game, and you see
this play out so often. I mean, I could tell
you a gazillion names of former players that can they
(24:42):
struggle with life.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
They can't.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
They cannot function in life. Turn the drugs, turn the alcohol.
They're abusive, not only to themselves, they're abusive to others.
They're just they're they're in poor condition because they subscribe
to just being a football player. And once the game
(25:06):
was gone, they didn't know how to care for themselves.
They didn't know how to schedule for themselves, nothing, nothing,
Because the skills that they needed to be able to
be productive in their lives was not there. And it
becomes apparent when you do not have the game anymore.
The focus and the purpose of college sports, of high
(25:29):
school sports is supposed to prepare you to be an
adult beyond the sport, beyond the sport, just like everybody
else that goes to school and what's developing them and
teaching them to be prepared for life beyond school, and
that seems to be gone. It seems to be gone
(25:52):
as it applies to athletics, especially high end net worth
value sports like football and basketball, it seems to not
be a focus anymore. And that's that to me. I
think it's very sad because for me, I went to school,
I would have never ended up in radio, never would
(26:13):
have ended up in radio ever if it wasn't for
a Penn State or that was a program director. I
was like, hey, maybe you should come in and learn
about what radio is about. My network and my education
and my community is the reason why I'm even on
the microphone right now.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
And that's gone, Like that's gone.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
You're you're you're transferring, You're you're a man with no flag,
You're a man with no nation. And that's a that's
a very sad commentary to have to play out and
look at.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
You guys, all that success on the field, and here
I was ready to welcome me in with arms and say,
you know what, let's go get in the mud together.
Come on, let's go get dirty together. Let's do this thing.
All three of us all on the same spot. It
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(27:06):
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Speaker 1 (27:18):
Some pizza sauce, some some pizza dough.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, you can enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
You know why, Well, because there's this thing going on
with Pizza Hut and it's called Pizza before the Hut
Jonas Knox and you know what, it's a challenge with quarterbacks.
Pizza Hut has another message for fans.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
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Speaker 1 (27:44):
Don't forget to order a Pizza Hut pizza before the
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Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yelled in the game. Hell yeah, think about that.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
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Speaker 1 (27:52):
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Go with the Big New Yorker. It's their biggest pizza
for their biggest games. It's massive, with slices so big
you have to fold them.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
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Speaker 1 (28:10):
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You know how big them slices are. One slice should
be worth ten bucks. Do that math. They're giving you
all of them, just ten bucks. Make sure you get
it before that first hut. Order the biggest pizza for
the biggest games. Like I said, and listen, you can
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of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Reports say he's going to
be back next year. So he will be back next year.
Despite the fact that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers lost I
believe seven of their last nine, Todd Bowles is going
to be back. Meanwhile, Raheem Morris of the Atlanta Falcons
won five of his last seven and he was fired.
(30:56):
So even though John Harbaugh is out there and he's lurking,
Todd Bowles is going to be back as the head
coach of your Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So I hope you
guys are excited about that.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Does that make him a lame duck head coach? Heading
into twenty twenty six. I think it defines that, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Yeah, ooh, lame duck. I mean, is it not explain?
Just Okay, they did.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Not finish well this season, true, and going eight to nine,
that is a losing record, even though it ties for
the division. The way they started I think led most
to believe that they underachieved in the second half of
the year. And there's probably some thought to we feel
good about what we have on our roster. Is Todd
(31:44):
Bowles then the guy to lead this roster into the
playoffs and help us win another Super Bowl? We obviously
did it with Bruce Arians and Tom Brady. Now the
question becomes is Todd Bowles the right guy? If not,
you know, we let a guy in Dave Kanala, let's go,
who is our offensive coordinator who now won the division
(32:04):
now gets to play in the postseason. We need to
bring back someone that might be able to, you know,
get this team playing at a higher level and not
fall off like that in the second.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Half of the season. Also Liam Cohen too, So now you've had,
you know, two coordinators leave that are both in the postseason.
Not a great look.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
They're aging too, you know, I think I think Baker
is he's kind of like a I don't know, It's like,
is he the guy? He's at times shows he can
be the guy, but there are times where he maybe
(32:49):
doesn't show he's the guy.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I just wonder.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I feel like, if you're saying lame duck coach, it
all depends on what the core nucleus of your roster
is going into next season. And if I'm saying Baker Mayfield,
god Win, David Winfield.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I think Levonte David may be done. Okay, so and
and and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm just saying, if if I'm projecting out looking at
potentially these being the names, are we gonna throw Mike
Evans in there? Like you know what I mean? Like,
is he gonna be back? That's so, what I'm saying
to you is unless they have and and and and
this is why I say it comes down to Baker,
(33:44):
because Baker will be the one, the one entity that
is back next year at quarterback. Baker Mayfield will be
the quarterback of Tampa Bay. What type of offseason will
they have? And I think that will dictate a lot
as to if we come into next season, saying Todd
Bowles is a lame duck coach versus he has an
(34:06):
opportunity to get a little bit further than what he did.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I'll say this about what this just did. It's a
breath of fresh air because look, and Pete Prisco's talked
about this. Yeah, they've been banged up, as we've illustrated
on this show before. Baker Mayfield, I don't know how
healthy he was this year. I mean, you can go
back to the Rams game where he left the game
when they were getting shell ACKed, but I think he
was still banged up even going into that game, and
(34:33):
I don't know that he was ever fully healthy. Mike
Evans could never, you know, get it back together after
he went down with the injury. A mecha Buka miss
time and he was great. Bucky Irving miss time, he
was great when he was like. So, there's like they've drafted, well,
there's been like real like talented players that have been there.
(34:54):
I think the organization probably looked at this and just
said let's give him another shot and hoped it were
healthy to Whereas if you go around the NFL, like
some of these guys who got clipped like they were
banged up too, don't.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
You guys believe though, don't you guys feel like? And
I guess this was like in my mind what I
was trying to get to. Don't you feel like looking
at what some of these other teams are doing, like
like Todd Bowles is a fine coach, Like he understands
the whole dynamic of being the CEO of a team,
like you put together the roster, help put together the roster,
(35:30):
help put together your coaching staff. He understands that he's
a fine coach. You look at some of these other
coaches that have done it, like Vrabel is the first
one that pops into my mind, and he took a
plan into this offseason and executed it. And now look
at what they were doing.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
If he has a plan and he can execute it
very well in this off season and they do it
as an organization like this whole one year proposition is
obviously on the tape these days. If there's if there's
an organization and a coach that can do it, I
think Top Bowls would be on on a list of
(36:08):
coaches that would actually be able to have an off season.
I mean they're them keeping him says to me, there's
a belief in him, still a value and belief in
what he brings to the table. Maybe it's an off
season that doesn't lend to the idea that this could
be like this is a one and done season for
top bowls coming up. It could actually be positive, potentially potentially.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
I mean, I mean, but it also depends on like
what that looks like, right, I mean, they got I
think more than anything else we learned this year, they
have to stay healthy. I mean, if you had reservations
of bow Baker Mayfield, I think there was, as Jonas
pointed out, concerns over his own health. But then also
you know the team around him. It's just they never
(36:54):
offensively really had that like healthy team altogether.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
It was late in the season.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I remember we're talking about this, like they had had
Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, a Mecca of BUCA, and I
think Jaylen McMillan all healthy at the same time.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Now it was like not.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Until week fourteen, maybe fifteen of the season, some ridiculous
you know number like that.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Defensively, they struggled probably more than we'd like to admit.
They were the worst in the red zone this year.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
In the NFL, and they had some other issues as
well throughout the course of the year, in particular in
past defense. But I think if they get back healthy,
it's the NFC South, they no doubt have a chance
to compete.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
But I do feel like.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
We're probably looking at a team that if they had
to drag things out, I don't know, there's a huge
vote of confidence for how this season ended. I mean,
if you would have asked us halfway through the year,
Todd Bowles was probably a head Coach of the Year.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Candida Oh yeah, super Bowl contender, like Baker Mayfield was
in the MVP conversation, he was like, there was all
of that going on. And also I don't mean to
bury the lead here, but it should be pointed out.
According to pe Prisco vitave is, wait yeah, really yeah,
they got to manage his way. That was really the
really where things went. It was really bad. I mean, look,
(38:06):
this this team.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I want to know what happened on the on the
bye week, That's what I want to know. And there
were six and two heading in the bye then we
won two games the rest the season. Now, last what
happened in that bye week? Where did they go? Were
they down in in the Tampa Bay Harbor.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Tipulins on the boat. We'll tell the New York Giants
soul over again. Tell me what's what's in Tampa that
could really get you to got to go in the
wrong direction. What's in Tampa boors City? So take us
a break? Okay, all right, that's what I've heard.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I don't know. I mean that name popped out there
a few times. All right, is that what it's called?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Is that? Is that? Looking it up? Yeah? I believe
Man's van is there? You go? There, you go, there,
you go. Yeah, that's that's a day. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
That and it's from what I hear from from people
who have visited.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
It's a quality, quality place.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah, that could confuse or distract you from success on
the football field.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
A lot of people walking in life whose names end
with a Z. Okay, all right, what's wrong with you, dude?
You're touched? Man. It is Two Pros and a Cup
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Speaker 3 (40:39):
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Speaker 5 (40:54):
It is Tom for in case you missed it, and
boy do I have a banger for you guys here?
So yeah, what is returning in back this summer And
it's a movie and it's something near and dear to
my heart.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Shaving Oh okay.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
Novar Jackass Johnny Knoxville has gone on record. Yesterday, he
announced via Instagram, Well, a wang dang and a hot
damn noodle, We're starting this year off with a bang
Jackass back to June twenty six, twenty six.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Well, there you go, man, those guys put themselves through
so much.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I don't feel like they're they're touched. They are touched,
Yeah to touch. There you go. They were touched back
then they're old. What are they gonna do?
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah, I mean it's around, yeah, I mean why not
just take it right to the grave?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Man. Knoxville's like if you hear him discuss his injuries,
like his concussions and stuff that he went through, like
like he had it's like a like a football player,
like he had to go see get evaluated. Did he
was forgetting things like you can't grow?
Speaker 1 (42:02):
We used to play jackass like during parties.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Don't try this at home kids.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I mean we we we used to like that's that
was You drink to that that show, like you throw
the DVD on and you drink to it like you
have a good time.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
It's in the background.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
It's like that painting on the wall, like you know,
you walk by like, oh, nice painting, like you party
and it's like Jackass has to be on your TV
playing on repeat.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
The guys, the guy's the guy's chugging beer in his ass?
Did they do that? Remember? Still tell me you to
try that once? When can we get to break? It
was on MTV right
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search two pros FSR and subscribe. Do you guys have
an idea what your next song is going to be?
Have you narrowed it down? I got like two or
three that I'm working on all of you.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, bangers, Yeah, I bet I might have something for
the next hour.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh yeah, what can we do it as a team?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Because you take too long? You're like that girl who
takes forever getting ready. That is fair, and you're like, yeah,
I'll just I'll be in the car an hour later
you finally walk out.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You are that person.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I just the problem for me is I have to
get it done during the show or it's not going
to get done.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
What do you mean, by the way, LaVar, haven't we
been placed with Jonas before where he's like always last
to come downstairs to leave.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh, we're always waiting on Jonas because he's the star.
Hold on a second, Oh, hold.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
On, wait, Brady is telling me that I'm the last
to arrive. You're telling me no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
When we're all leaving to go someplace in the mornings. Now,
I'm usually working out, so I'll push it to get there,
but I'm always.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
There on time. I will say.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Jonas is hitting you with some truth though, because for
the show, like our running deal is, which is funny
because by the last day, it's like he's clearly going
to come walking in literally, like it's going to be like, yeah,
literally a minute ago, like literally, But.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
But Jonas does that every day here, It's which is interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, I sit in my car and be chilling, like
just chilling, and I'll be like looking at my clock
and I'd be like, he gets in here literally fifty three,
fifty four, fifty five, sometimes even fifty six.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Every day. It's the wildest thing every day, Jay, the
wildest thing.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Just be sitting there like, bro, like you cut it.
Y'all cut it so close. Y'all cut it so close.
But hey, that's y'all doing.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Can verify. Yeah, they cut it close. Man, I'll be chilling. Though.
You want to know who ain't last?
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Me?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I ain't never gonna be last. So why would you
back to the original question, why would you need to
get your show your song selection done during the show
or you know why I told you yesterday? You know why?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Oh, because I'm well, because I'm out of here like
I'm onto it, Like my life has has time slots.
So so we're talking up out of this time three.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
To five fifty five? We got you?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, like one one am one, one thirty am two
three what what?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (04:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Six? What time are we done with this show? Five
fifty five? Oh yeah, five fifty five yeah? Six. This
is not true.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You participate, You participate in the group text, which I'd
like you to open up your phone right now.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, not because there's often there is a there's a tweet.
I'd love for you to read. We have a nice quote.
Here we go. All right, you don't want to read
that show, I don't care. I think we have the sound. Actually,
it's even real. I think did Joe Judge really say that? Hey, Patty,
we have that sound right, the Joe Judge sound. It's
in sound you want to right now? I mean this
(04:41):
is a real drop. This actually exist. I thought this
was like parody. I can't talk. Oh look, I said
this was a neighbor. I mean it's yea was next
door neighbor.
Speaker 8 (04:49):
Yeah, like if you watch those documentaries, my house is
on the TV in.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The next door.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
Yeah, the detectors knocked on my door to find out
where he was.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (04:56):
I mean we just kind of talked to the organization
right there.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
But I mean to have obviously chaotic.
Speaker 8 (05:01):
But again, those players that year handle that extremely well.
You know, it came out of that chaos and we
had some really good direction inside with some veterans and
different guys. And you have something like that happen, it's
you know, how do you handle something like that? You know,
how do you deal with something like that? So you know,
you keep the folks on what you can handle, what
you can control, which is at that time was football
for us, and then went through the stretch and we're
able to have success that he was twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
We end the season here as well, So there you go.
Aaron Hernandez being his neighbor, was the comp to lame
kiff and leaving.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I mean both are chaotic, right all right, but one
is clearly a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Body in the face.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Well there you go, I mean, murder one of those
what you do when they bring in the person that
does the pr training, just for those who don't know, you.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Might want to stay maybe from that, every team.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Brings in a nice manner woman who comes in and
they help give you directives as to what to avoid
saying and controversial anything that speaks for the entirety of
the team. You know, just speak for yourself if you're
going to say something, and try not to speculate all
these different little tactics.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
They stay positive, don't say negative stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
This would fall into the category of away from that one,
like it would be in the highlight reel of things
you don't want to venture down that path and make
comparisons to in fact, not like not making comparisons.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
That's probably another one.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, well, I thought it was pretty extreme, but I
guess he got his point across. I mean, if you're
saying that this is you've dealt with chaos before and
that you can block out the chaos and get results,
I guess you gave one of the most extreme examples
that you could give, so drove his point home.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
That's for certain. I understood where he was coming from.
Definitely did.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Well, there you go, and I won't go any further
with it, because why there's this lady or a person
that they bring in and they tell you these are
the topics that you get hit like, these are the
things you know, advice to things to stay away from, Like, Okay,
you could discuss this, but maybe you shouldn't discuss that.
You know, definitely should stay away from these things. So
I'm just not going not going to go any further
(07:17):
with that. So ay, But they keep making documentaries about it.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Though, so they like his house is in a lot
of different so we needed documentaries there, you need another
one of those, all right, well with that piece, one more,
you know. With that being said, there was also the
subject of Mario Cristobal. We mentioned the game preview. For
(07:43):
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find that if you want to make some money on
this game. But Ole Miss and Miami are there, and
so Mario Cristibaal was asked about, you know, maybe some
some info that might be passed along during the portal
process of college football and a wit like this.
Speaker 9 (08:03):
It's a weird, wild time when you have a transfer
portal open while you're trying to prepare to compete for
a national championship. Did you guys have any concerns about say,
outgoing players from your program. Maybe rival programs are in
the semi finals, or elsewhere reaching out to them, trying
to get even intel on your own programs as you
try to win a national championship.
Speaker 10 (08:24):
Well, I think it happens all the time, and if
we don't think it is happening, then we're kidding ourselves.
But quite honestly, I don't blame the players. I blame
the adults. We created the system, right, we're supposed to
be setting the example. Right, We're supposed to be setting
the standard as it relates to everything. So when you
create a system that has as many holes as it does, well,
(08:46):
then you know, shame on you if you're surprised by
some of the results that come with it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So it's a sensible response. Yeah, that's the portal, your guys,
is portal, very.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Sensible it it's gotten a lot of flack of late
I guess do we just want to talk about this now?
The Demond Williams situation, Well, it lends to like some
of what's happening, and it is odd that all these
things have to be connected to Lane Kiffin. It's like
he seems to be at the center of all of this.
(09:18):
But for those who don't know, Demon Williams quarterback at
the University of Washington really talented player. He signed an
agreement to go back to you dub this upcoming season. However,
after signing the agreement, he went into the transfer portals
trying to go into transfer portal. Supposedly, because he signed
(09:39):
this what it was deemed to be a binding agreement
with the university, the University of Washington will not put
him into the portal. However, it's become public that he
has a desire to go into the portal. Now, what
makes matters even crazier is the head coach Jed Fish
has the same exact agent as Demon Williams does.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
That is interesting. You know what I find interesting as
this is all unfolding with looking at the competitive nature
of what the portal represents to the elites. The non
elites are the ones that get lost in all of this.
And I think that listening to coach Christovaal what he
(10:25):
had to say is so relevant because while we will
sit here and talk about the elite QBS or the
elite player, that these these you know schools want and
are after and are willing to pay all of these
dollars for that transfer portal is also a place where
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castaways are ending up and people aren't really talking about that.
Guys are ending up in the portal not because they
want it to be in the portal, because they're being
basically cut. They're being cut from their team. We don't
want you anymore, you know. And I started thinking to myself,
(11:08):
it's like, man, I was thinking a GM being hired.
Now it's like, okay, you got to manage the money
and this, that and the other, and blase blah, like,
oh I get it, and you know, recruitment this.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Then they are now cutting players.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
You didn't cut players back in the day you came in,
if you came in on scholarship, Like yeah, they'll threaten you,
I will send you out of here. Maybe they'll give
you a lot of you know, punishment trainings and force
you to quit or different things like that. There were
different tactics to get a guy to leave the team,
but you weren't. You didn't hear guys getting cut. These
(11:46):
young men are getting let go from their team, like
basically telling them, Okay, you are making this, you're not
going to make. That's their way of saying, get out,
you're not making this next year, You're not going to
make this amount of money, you're going to take a
bay cut or this where we want to go in
a different direction.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
You're going to be like the.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Third string, fourth string, fifth string quarterback on his team,
or receiver, whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It may be.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And these kids are and this isn't being talked about,
but they're being actually placed in a position where what's
being said to them is equating to them having to
go into the portal. They have to go into the portal.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I know somebody who was told specifically i'd get in
the portal ify, were you correct? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Correct, It's just I mean, I don't feel like that's
kind of a SAYD commentary.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Man, it is.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
And I think there's a lot of different ways you
can talk about this, and I think there's two sides
to all this. So as much as it's unfortunate for
those kids, And I remember I talked about this with
Parker Livingstone, the wide receiver at Texas.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
You know, he had a really good season this year.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
He actually I remember seeing in Week one at Ohio
State catching some some big time passes for them. As
a freshman, he was their third lenning receiver and he
felt like he had to put his name in the
portal because of what the coaches had said to him.
I mean, again, this is a guy who was their
third leading receiver in yards and receptions, second in touchdown receptions.
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Like he stepped up in a big way. He was
the roommate arch Manning, and they're brand and other guys.
So it's incredibly unfortunate. However, some people would say, though,
in order for other guys to capitalize, like this is
the system that we have, Like some of the top
end guys wouldn't be able to make as much as
they were able to make, or other players make as
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much as they were able to make if not for
the ability to leverage themselves put themselves in the portal,
et cetera. So this is the downside of it, right,
Like we hear to your point, we only hear about
the upside of what guys are making and some of
the star players and those things. We don't hear about
the guys that get pushed out or we seldom here
(13:59):
about that.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Most go okay, I thought you were gohead well.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And and what I was going to say is, I
think if if we didn't have let's say we didn't
have nil, but we had the transfer portal, it would
be the same exact thing. The difference would be just
the scholarships, which I would say, I'm obviously a little
younger than you. So one of the things like you
kind of touched on there and talking about, was I
(14:23):
know guys who got there a Notre Dame, and it
became very evident that the coaching staff was going to
do everything they could to make that player's life tough
so that they would probably quit or transfer, whether it's
like the early morning workouts or even for like class scheduling,
they weren't able to get the class scheduling they really
(14:45):
needed in order to get, you know, their degree that
they wanted slash for practice everything else, like their life
was going to be someone miserable and that that was
like one of those tactics. And so at least it's
not hidden like now, at least you know somebody coaches
at least their forthright, they're honest with them. They'll say, hey, man,
I think you need to get in the portal, like
we're going to go with someone else. I mean to me,
(15:08):
this whole entire scenario for young people, there's good and
bad to it. I think one of the good things
that comes from that is even if you have someone
to tell you like, hey, you're not good enough or
we don't think you're good enough.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
It's a moment where you can either take that and
you could do what you want with it.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
You can keep pursuing it, keep proving them wrong, or
you can you know, take that as like, all right,
maybe this isn't the path for me, Maybe I need
to go in a different direction. And someone's trying to
give me a hint that, like, this path is only
going to lead so far that I need to start
thinking about the future. Because one of the things I
think you find is some of those people you're talking about,
they exhaust all efforts to basically take scholarships from either
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lower level guys who are trying to come up or
high school level kids and opportunities, and they don't really
have a future in the sport, but they're exhausting all
efforts to make as much money as they can in it.
And I can't faulting for that. But that is a
cause and effect of where we're at right now.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
The problem now done.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
The biggest issue I have with this, and my major
concern is that it's not based off of development and education.
It's my biggest it's the biggest problem I have with
this is because now it's like, okay, so now it's
(16:28):
okay to change the narrative.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
For so long, athletes have been.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Judged for the idea of I'm focused on being an athlete.
Do you understand what type of ridicule you exposed yourself
to if you said I'm a football player, I want
to play football. Do you understand the type of scrutiny
(16:55):
and the type of criticism that would come your way
if you said something as simple as I just want
to focus in on ball.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Had to be a student athlete.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Right, shamed, shamed to theteenth.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Power and now and now.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
It's okay, Now it's okay to actually, oh wait, like
when do we mention education here?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The whole point of what was just made in terms
of maybe this is, you know why it's a waste
of a scholarship because you're not going to help our
football team on Saturday, But you gave me a scholarship.
I would I didn't. First of all, somebody isn't just
given a scholarship. You have to earn it, like it's
(17:49):
an investment. They have to invest this money in you
to come here, so something made them feel like you
should be here, and we're going to give you money
to be here. If you don't turn out to be
the player, which happens more often than anything else, you're
going to have more guys that aren't going to be
pro material than guys that are going to be pro
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material that play on your team. Let's be clear on
that point of it. So when you realize that you, oh,
I'm one of the many. I'm one of the many
that aren't going to make it to the next level,
you have to look at education still as the major
staple of what college football represents, even in the name, image,
(18:37):
likeness era of time. And that is a very very
poor commentary. It's a very sad conclusion to come to
that it is not. And now you can no longer
deny the fact that's saying student athlete or they're not
employees of your university. You can no longer avoid the
(19:01):
conversation of what this truly is. You are looking for
your workforce, wherever it is the portal or at the
high school level, you are seeking your workforce, and if
they prove out, you pay them, and you pay them more.
If they don't, you move on from them, and you're
trying to find that next person to plug that gap
(19:24):
and make your team a better team. Leave it there.
Take the narrative away from these kids and acting as
though all they're about is the money. All they want
is the money. Oh, it's all about money. The kids,
the kids, the kids, the kids. What are you after, university?
What are you after? Coaching staff?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
What are you after?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Because I barely hear education anymore at all.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I barely hear it. I barely hear it.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
There was a couple of days last week where jordas
that we're working and you weren't working. And one of
the things as we talked about is no, no, Well
we haven't talked about the college basketball portion of this,
which is that's been the most like evidence of the
lack of concern for education and development if you follow
what's happening in college basketball right now, like you had
(20:16):
a guy who was drafted who's trying to come back
and play in college basketball after playing pro overseas, and look,
and after talking to some folks, I'll go as far
as even saying conference commissioners, I'd ask say what's your
take on this?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
And their take was, Hey.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Look, as long as they didn't sign a contract, we
believe that they should still be at Liberty to come
back and play if.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
That's the case, So as long as they didn't sign.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Which I know they've moved the goalpost a bit with
some of that discussion and language around it, But it
feels like college basketball has always been one step ahead
of college football because of it's a one and done.
So I think I think when college basketball went away from,
you know, forcing players to either choose to go to
pro out of high school or choosing to be in
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school for at least a couple of years, few years
they went away from that same model too. Like every sport,
that essentially made it easier and faster to get to
the professional level, and basketball was the first to do so,
they all of a sudden through education out the window.
I mean John cala Perry's pitch when he was back
at Kentucky was well, they'll come back and get their degree.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
He wasn't worried about it when.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
They were there, just as long as they were eligible,
which you know, those guys weren't even probably stepping foot
in the classroom if they were, was probably nothing too
difficult During the time there, So like I look at
it and say, like this framework has been set for
a while now with players who have then had the
opportunity in basketball to walk in and walk out like that,
(21:54):
and so now in football, I think the tough thing
is we've enabled them to be able to only make
it or only you know, probably oritize money as opposed
to development. And by the way, look like anything else,
it's like a bell curve. You've got your you know,
ten percent on one side that that's ultimately the only
thing they care about. You have the ten percent on
the other that it doesn't matter because they're not good
(22:16):
enough or they don't even have that opportunity, and the
other eighty percent in between.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
It's probably a blend.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Does money matter, you know, most for some of them, Yeah,
but it's not everything. Does money matter as much for others?
But maybe it's about that coach they're going to play for.
Maybe it's about that education they're going to get in
the degree. I think it differs, and I think we
tend to, you know, get frustrated in all of this.
But the truth of the matter is, hopefully the adults
in the room, the parents and the advisors for some
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of these guys, they do care enough to work with
the school and say, you know, hey, we want to
come back here and finish or whatever the case is,
whether they leave earlier, whether they're transferring out, there's some
way of keeping some goodwill and making sure that they
come back have the opportunity to get a degree one day.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Because that's the scariest thing I think when I look.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
At these young people, I'm like, they're gonna be leaving
college and yeah, they may not have any debt, and
they may have some you know, some money in.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
There in hand, and you have no flag, no nation,
no no network, no network, nothing to build anything off
of or even focus.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
No even no focus on education, correct, Unlike what do
I want to do outside of football?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
You know, That's why I liked what Quinn Yours did
because Quinn Ewers, after his final year at Texas, there
was apparently an offer on the table, a deal for
him to go elsewhere, and he turned it down because
he's Texas was his dream and he didn't want to.
He just didn't want to end his career playing for
somebody else, almost as you know, kind of a mercenary.
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And so he went into the draft, he got drafted
seventh round whatever. But it was almost like it felt
rare to hear somebody of that stature, who could go
get a paycheck, who could go get a payday somewhere else,
who said, man, I want to be loyal to the school,
allably loyal.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I went to school for rehab education. I majored in sociology.
I'm minored in psychology. I stayed in school for obviously too.
I wanted to be like my mom and help help
kids beyond the game. I always was my focus, even
(24:21):
as a player, was to help help kids, help help
people in development. If if my only worth and my
only value was me playing the game, and you see
this play out so often. I mean, I could tell
you a gazillion names of former players that can they
(24:42):
struggle with life.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
They can't.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
They cannot function in life. Turn the drugs, turn the alcohol.
They're abusive, not only to themselves, they're abusive to others.
They're just they're they're in poor condition because they subscribe
to just being a football player. And once the game
(25:06):
was gone, they didn't know how to care for themselves.
They didn't know how to schedule for themselves, nothing, nothing,
Because the skills that they needed to be able to
be productive in their lives was not there. And it
becomes apparent when you do not have the game anymore.
The focus and the purpose of college sports, of high
(25:29):
school sports is supposed to prepare you to be an
adult beyond the sport, beyond the sport, just like everybody
else that goes to school and what's developing them and
teaching them to be prepared for life beyond school, and
that seems to be gone. It seems to be gone
(25:52):
as it applies to athletics, especially high end net worth
value sports like football and basketball, it seems to not
be a focus anymore. And that's that to me. I
think it's very sad because for me, I went to school,
I would have never ended up in radio, never would
(26:13):
have ended up in radio ever if it wasn't for
a Penn State or that was a program director. I
was like, hey, maybe you should come in and learn
about what radio is about. My network and my education
and my community is the reason why I'm even on
the microphone right now.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
And that's gone, Like that's gone.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
You're you're you're transferring, You're you're a man with no flag,
You're a man with no nation. And that's a that's
a very sad commentary to have to play out and
look at.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
You guys, all that success on the field, and here
I was ready to welcome me in with arms and say,
you know what, let's go get in the mud together.
Come on, let's go get dirty together. Let's do this thing.
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(28:31):
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(30:35):
of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Reports say he's going to
be back next year. So he will be back next year.
Despite the fact that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers lost I
believe seven of their last nine, Todd Bowles is going
to be back. Meanwhile, Raheem Morris of the Atlanta Falcons
won five of his last seven and he was fired.
(30:56):
So even though John Harbaugh is out there and he's lurking,
Todd Bowles is going to be back as the head
coach of your Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So I hope you
guys are excited about that.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Does that make him a lame duck head coach? Heading
into twenty twenty six. I think it defines that, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Yeah, ooh, lame duck. I mean, is it not explain?
Just Okay, they did.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Not finish well this season, true, and going eight to nine,
that is a losing record, even though it ties for
the division. The way they started I think led most
to believe that they underachieved in the second half of
the year. And there's probably some thought to we feel
good about what we have on our roster. Is Todd
(31:44):
Bowles then the guy to lead this roster into the
playoffs and help us win another Super Bowl? We obviously
did it with Bruce Arians and Tom Brady. Now the
question becomes is Todd Bowles the right guy? If not,
you know, we let a guy in Dave Kanala, let's go,
who is our offensive coordinator who now won the division
(32:04):
now gets to play in the postseason. We need to
bring back someone that might be able to, you know,
get this team playing at a higher level and not
fall off like that in the second.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Half of the season. Also Liam Cohen too, So now you've had,
you know, two coordinators leave that are both in the postseason.
Not a great look.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
They're aging too, you know, I think I think Baker
is he's kind of like a I don't know, It's like,
is he the guy? He's at times shows he can
be the guy, but there are times where he maybe
(32:49):
doesn't show he's the guy.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I just wonder.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I feel like, if you're saying lame duck coach, it
all depends on what the core nucleus of your roster
is going into next season. And if I'm saying Baker Mayfield,
god Win, David Winfield.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I think Levonte David may be done. Okay, so and
and and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm just saying, if if I'm projecting out looking at
potentially these being the names, are we gonna throw Mike
Evans in there? Like you know what I mean? Like,
is he gonna be back? That's so, what I'm saying
to you is unless they have and and and and
this is why I say it comes down to Baker,
(33:44):
because Baker will be the one, the one entity that
is back next year at quarterback. Baker Mayfield will be
the quarterback of Tampa Bay. What type of offseason will
they have? And I think that will dictate a lot
as to if we come into next season, saying Todd
Bowles is a lame duck coach versus he has an
(34:06):
opportunity to get a little bit further than what he did.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I'll say this about what this just did. It's a
breath of fresh air because look, and Pete Prisco's talked
about this. Yeah, they've been banged up, as we've illustrated
on this show before. Baker Mayfield, I don't know how
healthy he was this year. I mean, you can go
back to the Rams game where he left the game
when they were getting shell ACKed, but I think he
was still banged up even going into that game, and
(34:33):
I don't know that he was ever fully healthy. Mike
Evans could never, you know, get it back together after
he went down with the injury. A mecha Buka miss
time and he was great. Bucky Irving miss time, he
was great when he was like. So, there's like they've drafted, well,
there's been like real like talented players that have been there.
(34:54):
I think the organization probably looked at this and just
said let's give him another shot and hoped it were
healthy to Whereas if you go around the NFL, like
some of these guys who got clipped like they were
banged up too, don't.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
You guys believe though, don't you guys feel like? And
I guess this was like in my mind what I
was trying to get to. Don't you feel like looking
at what some of these other teams are doing, like
like Todd Bowles is a fine coach, Like he understands
the whole dynamic of being the CEO of a team,
like you put together the roster, help put together the roster,
(35:30):
help put together your coaching staff. He understands that he's
a fine coach. You look at some of these other
coaches that have done it, like Vrabel is the first
one that pops into my mind, and he took a
plan into this offseason and executed it. And now look
at what they were doing.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
If he has a plan and he can execute it
very well in this off season and they do it
as an organization like this whole one year proposition is
obviously on the tape these days. If there's if there's
an organization and a coach that can do it, I
think Top Bowls would be on on a list of
(36:08):
coaches that would actually be able to have an off season.
I mean they're them keeping him says to me, there's
a belief in him, still a value and belief in
what he brings to the table. Maybe it's an off
season that doesn't lend to the idea that this could
be like this is a one and done season for
top bowls coming up. It could actually be positive, potentially potentially.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
I mean, I mean, but it also depends on like
what that looks like, right, I mean, they got I
think more than anything else we learned this year, they
have to stay healthy. I mean, if you had reservations
of bow Baker Mayfield, I think there was, as Jonas
pointed out, concerns over his own health. But then also
you know the team around him. It's just they never
(36:54):
offensively really had that like healthy team altogether.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
It was late in the season.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I remember we're talking about this, like they had had
Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, a Mecca of BUCA, and I
think Jaylen McMillan all healthy at the same time.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Now it was like not.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Until week fourteen, maybe fifteen of the season, some ridiculous
you know number like that.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Defensively, they struggled probably more than we'd like to admit.
They were the worst in the red zone this year.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
In the NFL, and they had some other issues as
well throughout the course of the year, in particular in
past defense. But I think if they get back healthy,
it's the NFC South, they no doubt have a chance
to compete.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
But I do feel like.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
We're probably looking at a team that if they had
to drag things out, I don't know, there's a huge
vote of confidence for how this season ended. I mean,
if you would have asked us halfway through the year,
Todd Bowles was probably a head Coach of the Year.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Candida Oh yeah, super Bowl contender, like Baker Mayfield was
in the MVP conversation, he was like, there was all
of that going on. And also I don't mean to
bury the lead here, but it should be pointed out.
According to pe Prisco vitave is, wait yeah, really yeah,
they got to manage his way. That was really the
really where things went. It was really bad. I mean, look,
(38:06):
this this team.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I want to know what happened on the on the
bye week, That's what I want to know. And there
were six and two heading in the bye then we
won two games the rest the season. Now, last what
happened in that bye week? Where did they go? Were
they down in in the Tampa Bay Harbor.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Tipulins on the boat. We'll tell the New York Giants
soul over again. Tell me what's what's in Tampa that
could really get you to got to go in the
wrong direction. What's in Tampa boors City? So take us
a break? Okay, all right, that's what I've heard.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I don't know. I mean that name popped out there
a few times. All right, is that what it's called?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Is that? Is that? Looking it up? Yeah? I believe
Man's van is there? You go? There, you go, there,
you go. Yeah, that's that's a day. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
That and it's from what I hear from from people
who have visited.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
It's a quality, quality place.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah, that could confuse or distract you from success on
the football field.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
A lot of people walking in life whose names end
with a Z. Okay, all right, what's wrong with you, dude?
You're touched? Man. It is Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe. We're on Fox Sports Radio. Brady Quinn Jonas knocks.
All right, coming up next here, it's another edition of
(39:44):
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Speaker 11 (39:47):
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio.
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
up top of the next hour a little over ten
minutes from now, it's the Dysfunction Olympics in the NFL,
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Speaker 11 (40:30):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to
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Speaker 3 (40:39):
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer,
the one and Ollie Patrick SWEEKA Patty what if? What
of f RONI? What of Jonahs? C what of guys.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
It is Tom for in case you missed it, and
boy do I have a banger for you guys here?
So yeah, what is returning in back this summer And
it's a movie and it's something near and dear to
my heart.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Shaving Oh okay.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
Novar Jackass Johnny Knoxville has gone on record. Yesterday, he
announced via Instagram, Well, a wang dang and a hot
damn noodle, We're starting this year off with a bang
Jackass back to June twenty six, twenty six.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Well, there you go, man, those guys put themselves through
so much.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I don't feel like they're they're touched. They are touched,
Yeah to touch. There you go. They were touched back
then they're old. What are they gonna do?
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah, I mean it's around, yeah, I mean why not
just take it right to the grave?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Man. Knoxville's like if you hear him discuss his injuries,
like his concussions and stuff that he went through, like
like he had it's like a like a football player,
like he had to go see get evaluated. Did he
was forgetting things like you can't grow?
Speaker 1 (42:02):
We used to play jackass like during parties.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Don't try this at home kids.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I mean we we we used to like that's that
was You drink to that that show, like you throw
the DVD on and you drink to it like you
have a good time.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
It's in the background.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
It's like that painting on the wall, like you know,
you walk by like, oh, nice painting, like you party
and it's like Jackass has to be on your TV
playing on repeat.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
The guys, the guy's the guy's chugging beer in his ass?
Did they do that? Remember? Still tell me you to
try that once? When can we get to break? It
was on MTV right
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