January 19, 2026 • 42 mins
Today on 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox & LaVar Arrington recap the Rams beating the Bears in an OT game for the ages in the cold. Plus, the guys talk about how much of an ass kicking the Seahawks gave to the 49ers, a funny ICYMI, and more!!
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Speaker 2 (01:34):
What's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Good morning, sir. How you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Listen?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Man? That was a.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Really fun weekend of football, and to see it get
bookended where you had overtime in the first game, which
we'll get into all sorts of controversy coming up later on,
and then to see what that was that scene last
night and what looked like miserable conditions in Chicago. Credit
to the Rams, man like they seem like they handled
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the conditions just a little bit better than the Bears
did and ultimately got it done in overtime.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Well they did. And and you know, credit to McVeigh
and that staff. Credit to the Rams defense that that
played their their tails off. I guess can I say,
I don't want to say credit to Matthew Stafford. I
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don't I think that that they they won in spite
of Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I think that there was a balanced attack.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I mean, obviously his numbers weren't horrible, they just weren't
He wasn't great in the game, and they.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Were able to get a little bit of the run going.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
But ultimately I said this, I think going into the
game Jonas that this was a moment for for Caleb
Williams to actually play at a level that would now
start to thrust his name into being one of the
most elite players at the position. And I felt like
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it was a missed opportunity for Caleb Williams in this moment,
especially because the game did come down to throws that
you know, obviously with the Chicago Bears having the ball,
So I thought it was a missed opportunity. But in
spite of I don't think it was. Oh he lost
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the duel to Matthew Stafford. In fact, I felt like
it was a little bit more damning that he lost
because it seemed as though LA's offense gave Chicago Bears
an opportunity to be in the pole position if they
were going to go grab this game, win this game.
(04:01):
I think he you know, I think Kayla Williams let
one get away y yesterday.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And I would say also, there were so many opportunities,
especially in short yardage situations where I can't even think
how many times there was a third and one a
fourth and one, and the Rams just made plays and
they just stepped up and look the Bears, you know,
starting left tackle was out, so Joe Toney had to
move over to left tackle from left guard. Like there
was moving parts there, but it just there was a
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bunch of chances and a bunch of missed opportunities and
then of course it comes down to it and he
makes that whatever the hell you call that play from.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I don't know what that theador sanders at the perfect time,
like it's.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Just like they're really like there is a knack there,
there's something there to where he's got the ability to
like that. That was a sixty yard throw in those conditions.
It was sixty yard on his back foot on the run.
It just the whole the whole situation was wild. You mentioned,
you know, obviously the Rams and Matthew Stafford, who struggled
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to really get a rhythm going, made just enough plays
to give the Rams to win. Sean McVay, the head
coach of the Rams, spoke afterwards about his team's performance
in the conditions.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I'm really excited because I can dive into this and
I can be better for us, and we'll have to
be against the phenomenal defense next week. But guys just
kept battling, they kept believing. And that's what it's about,
you know, there's no style points. It's about being able
to survive in advance. And we were able to do
that in a tough, hostile environment. And it was cold today.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Do you think, by the way, the old cayenne pepper
and the socks thing that they were talking about pregame
where apparently the Rams had heard or somebody on their
staff had heard that one of the tricks in cold
weathers that you put kyenne pepper in your socks and
it heats up your feet.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well, that's all they put into those handwarmers. That's that's
really it really a couple. Yeah, I mean, I think
there's a couple chemicals that they may mix in, but
I do believe it's like it's Kanye and Pepper, like
I believe.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Okay, So then so if you if you rub your eyes,
that feels like a problem. Because I'll tell you this
right now, I was making chili at home.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
But you're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Somebody else would probably do that for you.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
But good, you're making jokes.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Well like I was making chili at home one time,
and I thought I washed my hands good enough, mixing
kyenne pepper, and then I went to go use the
restroom and uh, I gotta got all heat it up downstairs,
So that that just feels like a problem, like but
you know, apparently it worked and the Rams are are
off and run, and it just I kept thinking of
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myself and watching the game last night, I kept thinking,
you know, LaVar told me a story playing at Soldier
Field to where he went to go use the showers afterwards,
and there.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Was no Hobazer reason COPD.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
So like, I just wonder, did the Rams get the
same treatment in those conditions or we have we come
a long way in that place and then at Soldier
Field to where that's not going to be a problem
postgame for those guys.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
It doesn't say cayenne pepper and these ingredients I'm looking at,
but one has salt.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's interesting a Soldier Field is burn your balls off.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I'll tell you that from personal experience literally burning balls.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I used to put. I used to put vasiline on
my feet and then put plastic baggies on top, like
the baggies you used for ice, and then tape them
and then put my socks on.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Top of them.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Wouldn't that be slippery?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It's a it's a tad bit slick, but it's not
as slick as you would think because your foot is
stuffed inside of the shoe, so you don't have very
much give. Like you don't there's not very much room
for it to feel like you're slipping.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And would you just have the softest feet after too,
like that much on yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I never really thought to check on them, but you know,
I do have pretty decent feet, so maybe maybe it
did a good job on them. I don't know, but
I know it kept your feet warm because it was
more about you know, the coldness like kind of creeps
in and if it's wet, usually it's it's raining or
it's snowing at that point the time of the year.
So if you can keep your feet dry, it's kind
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of you know, they they worked for you.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
But that's what I used to do.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Is it's probably kind of weird that that I did
it because I did know, you know, obviously it makes
your your foot slick, but it worked.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Definitely worked, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
But again I'll say this, you know, in this game,
you know, they the Rams defense dealt with losing. I
don't know what happened to Byron Young, which is to me,
that's just a significant loss. I don't know if people
realized that he went out of the game. I don't
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know if I heard it. I had music planned, so
I don't know if I heard that they announced that
he wasn't in the game at any point or reported it.
But I know he recorded some stats but was not there,
and I felt as though that was a you know,
you missed that presence on the field, especially as it
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got later into the game. And in fact, one of
the bigger plays that was made was it was number
ten I believe who was in the game. I'm not
sure what his name was or is, but number ten
for the Rams came off the edge and did the
you know the most. You just can't do it, especially
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in a situation as big as that. You can't lose
contain and he pushed up field and then he put
pushed inside and Caleb Williams was able to break the contain.
I think it was Caleb Williams. It might have been
a run play, but I'm pretty certain it was it
was Maybe it was maybe he did run. I don't know,
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but he lost contain and I just started thinking to myself.
I was like, man, I hadn't seen young in a while,
and you know, Verse was was doing what he could do,
and and I just I don't know, Man, I felt
like the Rams defense overcame not not being at full strength.
They played well enough for this team to win. So
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I thought it was a weekend of defenses, and I'm
happy to see that it's still about defense in terms
of getting close to winning and getting this close to
a Super Bowl. It really is about your defenses.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And also, if you could just go back to that
game last night to where one of the criticisms was,
and I think it was was probably part of the
reason why the Bears kept trying to push the ball downfield.
The Rams secondary is the weakness on that defense. Like
they're the Rams defensive front is really good, their linebacking
corps is really good. The problem is they've invested so
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much on the front seven that the back end they've struggled.
And I think Ben Johnson thought there was an opportunity
downfield to make plays. But in those conditions, man, the
balls going all over the place.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Also on some on those picks. Credit to those guys.
It's not like those are easy catchings.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Oh guess.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Maybe the best, maybe the best catch of the game
was by a Rams defensive back in the end catch
and so you like you saw the Bears struggling to
hold onto the football, to catch the football. They were
catchable passes, the one to Roma Dunsday, which would have
been a touchdown in the first quarter when the Bears
first got.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
The ball, like there were opportunities there.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But yeah, the defense stepped up and Dennis Allen, the
defensive coordinator for the Bears, who realized after the first drive,
I've got to, you know, start doing things a little
bit differently here because the Rams went down and scored.
And next thing, you know, Jakwan Brisker, who was fantastic
in that game, all best best Bears defender on the
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field by far, and probably the best game of his career,
of his career at this point with the Bears. And
I do think that the defensive side of the ball
stepped up last night in a way that I don't
think a lot of people thought. Because the knock on
the Rams was that secondary you can throw on them,
especially over the past several weeks they've struggled, and the
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knock on the Bears was, yeah, they can get turnovers,
but if they can't get turnovers, they're not going to
be competitive. They got no turnovers last night, and they
were competitive and damn near almost won the game.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I mean, the Bears gave it away three times times
and one and the most critical point of the game,
at least protect the ball. Matthew Stafford did not play
well by standard, but he did not turn the ball over.
Took sacks but did not turn the ball over, didn't
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get tds but didn't turn the ball over. And when
they needed a big play, you know Davante Adams. He
didn't get targeted very much and didn't have very many catches,
but had a great catch and one of the biggest
moments of the game.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Poka Nakua. He showed up.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Didn't have that big of a game, but may made
plays for them when they needed it. There's a couple
of different guys you could throw in there, but they
weren't very productive in the passing game, and and listen,
they were pretty decent in the run game. I just
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bro I think that this is going to be a
tough one for them moving forward. I mean, I mean,
you know, every every team took some some lumps coming
out and let this past game or even going into it.
But and I felt like with with the depleted you know,
depleted you know, players on on some of these AFC teams,
(14:19):
I thought it was like in the hands of the NFC,
whoever makes it out of NFC. With all the injuries
you're seeing taking place in the AFC, I'm like, yeah,
maybe it's an NFC year, you know, another year for
the NFC to get it, but I'm not sure. Everybody
seems to be pretty injured.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, it's and you just you mentioned the missed opportunities,
especially last night, if you look at it from the
Chicago standpoint, that there was a real chance for them
to be in an NFC title game against Seattle, which
would have been a tough ask, but the opportunities were
there last night. They turned the ball over three times.
If you just go look at the numbers, If you
go and look at the stats, almost equal down the
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board between these two teams. The difference was those turnovers.
The Bears had three, the Rams had none. Ben Johnson,
their head coach, spoke about the disappointment following the loss, you.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Know, disappointing, disappointing result tonight. Our guys fought the entire way,
just just like they have all season long. I thought,
you know, this was very much like our team has been.
And you got to give the Rams credit. You know,
Coach McVeigh does a does a phenomenal job. Coach Shulet
did a great job with their defense this week. And
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you know, they ended up making a couple more plays
than we did and that's why ended up going in
overtime and they ended up coming out on top. And so,
you know, like I said, disappointing result. Our guys are
feeling it right right now. They all believe, man, they
all believed all year long that we could find a
way to win each and every week. And so it's
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disappointing like that, But I am proud of the group.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So that was Ben johnson obviously successful year.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, I just you know, you start to look around
and go, I don't know, Washington had a pretty good
year last year too, and we see what happens a
year later. Just some of those bounces that went your
way this year, you can't expect that's going to happen again,
and they won a lot of fluky games, and you know,
most notably the one against Green Bay the week before.
I just I think that that'll be a big question mark.
(16:22):
Is this is the way they won games sustainable? I
think that it is because they've got so much talent.
But you know, who knows, it's a weird league.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Like I said, it was a missed opportunity for Caleb
Williams because some of those games you can't question. But
what you wouldn't be able to question is if he
was able to complete one of those passes after getting
the game too overtime, completing one of those passes.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
To win the game.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, you know, and so to me, potentially win the
game because what the ams would have got the ball back.
But there was one time when when was it that
he would throw incompletes on like in the rid zone,
like he missed him in the end zone.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Well, he did end up getting it at the end.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I mean, he did end up getting the hell mary
at the or to throw up the toss up at
the end, but I mean he wasn't able to get
it done when when they got the ball in in overtime,
It's like kind of starting the starting to running run
together for me. But the point is is that there
were opportunities for Caleb Williams to take a massive step
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forward because you didn't have Matthew Stafford playing the best
of best football games. Your defense was playing, playing a strong,
solid game. It was just set up for him to
show that the beers are here. Caleb Williams is hair like,
let's we're in the championship round.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Let's get it, you know what I mean? But it
didn't happen that way.
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Speaker 4 (18:48):
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Speaker 1 (18:50):
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negative things that people can try to bring up around such,
you know, moments like these, but yeah, just take a
moment to appreciate the good things about you know, where
our society in some ways shapes forms have gotten to.
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was saying this LeVar that in every group, there's always.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
An ugly one, you know, I heard you say that.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, nobody's got a perfect record, and this weekend in
the NFL, there was an ugly one. Okay, uh, step
right up, Seahawks Niners because boil Boy was that rough.
That was That was an ass whooping and a half
that Seattle gave San Francisco who came and banged up
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and got lit up by the Seattle Seahawks coming off
a bune.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Everybody was making fun of them.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Their intro with the boom box, save back Mac was
shooting the little little the water gun.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
They said.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Trent Williams came in real, real smooth on the big
Man slide. They said, the one receiver he said about
it looks of the way they came, came to the
field with the with the boom box.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
They was about to get it in.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
They didn't even get it into the end zone, not
one time. So yeah, it was an ugly one, but
I think everybody, I think I felt like everybody was
kind of anticipating and embracing for this to be the
game that exposed, you know, everything that they were lacking
and were missing.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, it was like, I mean, the fact that they
were even in this spot, you know, like says a
lot about you know, the job Kyle Shanahan did, and
just the team and their resilience and all that. But man,
it was like even the guys who were playing dealt
with injuries. So look, George Kittle's out, you know, one
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of their best players. Fred Warner's out, one of their
best players. You know, Nick Bosa is out, one of
their best players. Well, who else is one of their
best players? Well, Trent Williams, he dealt with stuff this year.
Brock brock Purty missed time because of you know what
was it, the Planner FASc itis or whatever the hell
(24:03):
he turf toe was turf tow he was dealing with.
And mac jones had to step up. And Christian McCaffrey
was dealing with a stinger and he took a beating
in that game. It's just like you can only do
so much before sooner or later, the reality sets in
that a team that looks rested and a team that
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looks like they're taking full advantage of home field advantage,
just put that work on San Francisco on Saturday, and
you know, Sam Darnold had his oblique issue. He spoke
about getting ready for the game with the oblique injury
that he suffered that we talked about on Friday on
the show.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Here was the Shawks quarterback.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
So obviously I didn't go out for the non padded
warm up. I think that kind of stirred, you know,
some questions, which was funny, but no, I got to
throw in here and you know did the same thing
did myerteine in here, But just wanted to throw make
sure that I was you know, once I put the
pads on and got that first, like that padded warm up,
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I wanted to be rolling and I didn't want to
waste any time, you know, getting warm on the field
and coming in having forty minutes to get warm again
and then go back out Like I just wanted to
get warm once and then go back out there in
the pads. And so that was kind of that was
why I did it that way.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I mean, the way they ran the ball, he didn't
have to do a hell of a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Like he just say, the way that defense played, he
didn't have to do a whole hell of a lot.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
But I just.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Wonder, like, the biggest takeaway outside of the fact that
Seattle is dominant and will probably win the Super Bowl,
can if nothing crazy happens, like if his obleak doesn't
fall apart and fall out of his chest, out of
his you know, his rib or his side of his body,
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if something doesn't go like just crazy wrong for Seattle.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I feel like going to be the team that wins
this Super Bowl. I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I don't think coming into this game the Rams are
going to have I just don't think they're going to
have enough to go in there and win it. I mean,
it looked as though they could have went home yesterday.
But I also I also came away from thinking like
tang like Philadelphia, Like do you understand what that kind
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of means that they were able to thump They thumped
the Niners like it didn't even look like a competitive game,
and you're watching it, and you're watching it get away
from them, and all I could think about was, Man,
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this team has has everything you just highlighted, has had
to overcome all of those things to be able to
get to where they are. They should not have been
able to get through a Philadelphia Eagles team in Philly
just made me wonder, like it just took it just
took me down a whole different.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Lane where it was like, what the hell is.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Going on in Philly? Yeah, because really what.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Should have happened was it should have been a Philly
versus Seattle game and you would have saw two Juggernauts,
a new one to the table and what's been built
in Seattle, but nonetheless a juggernaut this year take on
the former chat.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
That's still the chant I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
And the way that it would have played out is
Philly would have played Chicago and the Rams would have
gone to Seattle. Oh play the Seahawks, just be based
on the seating.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
But well even that, even that, you know what I mean,
Like even yet, and still it still raises the question
to me because those two teams played oh yeah, yeah,
and the forty nine ers played the Eagles the Eagle,
which okay, the match of whatever matchup is after that,
it would have probably ended up being Seattle and the
Eagle was playing anyway, if they were playing the way
(28:03):
they're supposed to play, Seattle, they're they're ringing the ball,
they're playing the way they're supposed to.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Play, and it's and to your point on the on
the Eagles conversation, Yeah, it is one of those well
how could they do it?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
And you couldn't.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I mean they did, and they were both at home,
both yes, both hostile environments. Philly was at home, and
you know, the Niners were were banged up in that
going into that game. They lost George Kittle in that game,
and still you had nothing. And it's not like, and
this is what I hope people understand, It's not like
(28:39):
the Niners defense was lighting the league on fire this year.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
They were awful.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
They looked awful so much, but they looked like they
were just they was taking belt ass on on on
Philly in that game.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
And so when you when you consider and you factor
in how bad the Niners defense was all year, I
mean you remember the Sunday night game against the Bears,
Caleb Williams and the Bears went down the field on
them at will whenever they wanted to, went went drive
or drive with them, and Philly could get nothing going.
And you've got Saquon Barkley and Jalen Herbs, and you've
(29:18):
got like you, like you were healthy, like you, I know, Lane.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Johnson, everybody, but you had all your.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Threats that were there, and then to see what Seattle
did a week later with a quarterback who's you know,
dealing with an oblique injury.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
That was. That was that row just trying to make
sense of it, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
That was when I watched that game, I was like, Okay,
I anticipate that that Seattle, even though I didn't think
that they would.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I did not think they would cover.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I think on Saturday I took I took Seattle would win,
but I took the Niners with the points. I thought
it wouldn't be more than seven points. Oh that was
I thought it would be. I thought it would be
less than seven. But my goodness, they dominated them. And
(30:06):
they dominated them from the jump like it wasn't like
they waited.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
They just came out and.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Thumped them like it was like real quick, like listen,
like we're gonna beat the hell out of y'all, and
then second quarter, we're gonna fall back a little bit,
take a little breath, breath, take our foot off the gas,
get into halftime, and then we're gonna come out and
we're just gonna destroy you in the second half as well,
(30:32):
and you're gonna take it and you're gonna like it,
and then you're gonna rap back to to you know,
San Francisco and watch the Super Bowl that y'all thought
y'all was gonna sneak into and be the story of
the year, and that came to an end.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
That's that comes to an end today. It just it
was a.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Classic, classic ass whipping and it just made me really wonder,
how does a team that has to travel they didn't
have to travel as far to get to Seattle. That's
a very very closed flight, you know what I mean, Like,
so you got a shorter flight. It's more it's more
of your weather component where you're at versus going all
(31:12):
the way across the country and playing in the Link
and playing in that is one of the toughest places
to play a football game, and.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
You go in there and you win.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I was like, well, we're sitting here and we're hyping
and we're boosting up this forty nine ers team. But
I think we saw truly what the real forty nine
ers team was against the Seattle Seahawks, which again it
left me with a ton of questions more so about
how good is Philly versus how bad? You know, the
(31:42):
forty nine ers. You know how bad they really are?
How good the Seattle Seahawks are.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
The Eagles are so bad that they lost to a
team that practices next to Chernobyl.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You stupid, like a.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Nuclear react is right outside the practice facility for the lot.
All right, there's there's a You got guys walking around
with these mysterious injuries popping up, you got conspiracy theories
going on, and the Eagles lost to that team, like
they they lost to that team.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
It's a problem, man, But not in not in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
And I would say this Seattle a couple of weeks
ago also gave the Niners that work, and they gave
them that work at home on that Saturday night game,
which which ultimately won them the division, got them the
one seed, you know, helped solidify that. And you know,
if that game goes the other way, maybe this game
is played at Chernobyl instead of up in Seattle yesterday.
(32:45):
But I think, I think the Seahawks have shown and
this is what makes this matchup with the Rams so fascinating,
Like they've shown that, Yeah, they're legitimately a very good team.
The defense is outstanding. Mike McDonald's and a tremendous job.
But I go back to that Rams game that they
(33:05):
won on that Thursday night. Man, the Rams dominated that game,
like the Rams were in total control, and Seattle came
up with this fluky victory. And I still think there's
probably some questions about whether or not Sam Darnold in
these big moments, is going to be able to deliver.
And there's plenty of time to break down and preview
that game. But I just I look at it and
(33:27):
I go, I'm still not sure because he didn't have
to do anything against the night Ers on Saturday night,
like he just he didn't and he was banged up.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
So they bought him some time.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yep, I sure did.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
They bought him some time. That defense is as good
as advertise. They got a nice receiving corps that that
receiving corps is serious, and they got a running game.
Now the buddy sham shamborg you know whatever, you know
that you put in your drink, the chambourg bog bord, you.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
He went out a little injured shamboard shambourg that the liquor.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, by the way, you want to know, man, I'm
trying to remember the recipe. I think it's an absolute citron.
Is it shamboard? Is it D or G at the end?
Is it a deer g?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I'm gonna say a D at the end?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
All right, So it's absolute citron shamboord and I believe god.
There's one other thing, maybe grapefruit juice, and it's tremendous,
Like it's a really really good drink, really good drink.
I used to do it back in the day and
that I blew chunks on it one time and that
was a wrap never.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Again, never the same.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I'm like you've are if I if something leaves my
body that I've that I've drank, it will not be
in my body ever again. Once I do it, once
it's over. Yeah, that's that's out of that.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
That's it. Yeah, out of there.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Man.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Here's what's uh, what's gonna make your stomach feel quite nice?
Pizza hut And here's a game day tip. Order pizza
before the QB shots the first hut And if you're hungry,
the Big New Yorker's got those giant foldable slices and
right now it's just ten bucks, the biggest pizza for
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Speaker 7 (36:38):
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Speaker 3 (36:48):
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Speaker 9 (36:58):
It's the Levil.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
By the way, his last name is not Speaks, it's Sweeker,
but we just call him Patty Speaks because that's his
Twitter account.
Speaker 9 (37:05):
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the sweeks sweets. Where did Patty Sweet? I don't know,
pat he came.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Up with it.
Speaker 9 (37:14):
I like both of them, and then I got fined
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Speaker 3 (37:19):
By the way, Patty Sweet sounds like Patty Sweet sounds
like a prison name.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
No, no, it does not, doesn't it?
Speaker 7 (37:28):
Lord?
Speaker 9 (37:29):
Well, moving on, it's abreak in case you missed it, guys.
O Lord, and with the first one here, so it's
almost Super Bowl time, guys, and oh, boy, we all
know that. Well, we know Bad Bunny is gonna be
at the halftime show. However, we have an opening to
the super Bowl. That's right, Green Day. He's going to
(37:50):
be opening the super Bowl. They're going to be celebrating
six decades of the championship history, along with bringing in
Super Pass, Super Bowl MVPs, and attendance for big stravaganza.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I thought it was gonna be Kid Rock.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Well, I do like the approach of you know what,
our halftime performers so bad, how can we go worse?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I have Green Day show up. That's awesome. Not a fan,
and you know what it is about them? It took
me a while to figure it out. It's because my
ears work, so I think that's the real issue.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Damn while to figure that out.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I couldn't figure out.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
What it was.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I don't know if it was, you know, just whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
You're cold blooded, peace brou.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Cold blood.
Speaker 9 (38:41):
Alright, all right, well we're gonna move away from a
team that won't be going to the super Bowl anytime soon.
The Pittsburgh Steelers. Guys, they are expected to speak with
drum roll, but.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Oh wait, wait, wait, I do have one two seconds there. Wait, yes, now, uh.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Mike hancarthy, all right, what about dad bar for the.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Users, that's the one part. Yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
He's a wes p A or that's.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Home hometown guy goes home. What do you think?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Come on, come on, well, Mike.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
McCarthy, his dad was a cop in the area growing up,
ran a bar stealer. And let me tell you something.
You can do a lot worse than Mike McCarthy. Alright,
he's won a lot of games in his.
Speaker 10 (39:49):
Career, Steelers, what do you And maybe maybe this would
entice Aaron Rodgers to want to come back play for
his old coach, and Mike McCarthy run this thing back
and see if uh still, I don't.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Know about that, but I.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Don't know if that makes it.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Let's not get carried away.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I mean, I think that Mike McCarthy would be a
fine hire.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I just I feel like there's always going to be
a lot.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Of pressure all higher in a Steeler coach because they
don't you know, yeah, they don't have They have not
hired very many. You know.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I was thinking about that too yesterday and looking at
the story. Yeah, you don't want to be the first
Steelers coach to where they're.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Like, yeah, they working, Yeah, the work.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
That's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Man, they've met three since the sixties. You don't want
to be the one that they oust in like two
years because because it's failed and it has been working.
I just you know, this would I mean, I think
this would be the first offensive minded head coach that
they would go.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
If they were to go with Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I think Brian flores Is still is getting love there
in Pittsburgh, but.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
That would be the first because Bill Cower was a
defensive guy.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Tomlin, But Tomlin was a receiver in college, wasn't he?
Speaker 7 (41:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
But I think he was on the defensive side of
the staff when.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
He started coaching.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah yeah, yeah right, but he did play played offense.
I mean, and then obviously Chuck Nole. I don't know
what Chuck Knowle's background is. Honestly, I wouldn't have known
if he was a defensive coach or an offensive coach
if you asked me so. But he built that team
through defense, like he built the Steel Curtain first, and
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then they you know, rest is history.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
How do you think that fan base would react to
a Mike McCarthy hiring.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
There'd be it's hard to say, man like some.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Pride maybe and like, you know what, he's one of us,
Like he's a guy all of a sudden that the
Yinser accent would come out like it would, it would
come out.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
And it's hard. I think it's hard to say. I
think people.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Are welcoming a new a new coach, but I think
that it's going to be a process.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
It'll be a process, is what I'll say.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
And Bill Cowers
Speaker 1 (42:13):
From Crafton to by the way, Mike McCarthy from Green
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Speaker 2 (01:34):
What's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Good morning, sir. How you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Listen?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Man? That was a.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Really fun weekend of football, and to see it get
bookended where you had overtime in the first game, which
we'll get into all sorts of controversy coming up later on,
and then to see what that was that scene last
night and what looked like miserable conditions in Chicago. Credit
to the Rams, man like they seem like they handled
(02:02):
the conditions just a little bit better than the Bears
did and ultimately got it done in overtime.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Well they did. And and you know, credit to McVeigh
and that staff. Credit to the Rams defense that that
played their their tails off. I guess can I say,
I don't want to say credit to Matthew Stafford. I
(02:29):
don't I think that that they they won in spite
of Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I think that there was a balanced attack.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I mean, obviously his numbers weren't horrible, they just weren't
He wasn't great in the game, and they.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Were able to get a little bit of the run going.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
But ultimately I said this, I think going into the
game Jonas that this was a moment for for Caleb
Williams to actually play at a level that would now
start to thrust his name into being one of the
most elite players at the position. And I felt like
(03:16):
it was a missed opportunity for Caleb Williams in this moment,
especially because the game did come down to throws that
you know, obviously with the Chicago Bears having the ball,
So I thought it was a missed opportunity. But in
spite of I don't think it was. Oh he lost
(03:39):
the duel to Matthew Stafford. In fact, I felt like
it was a little bit more damning that he lost
because it seemed as though LA's offense gave Chicago Bears
an opportunity to be in the pole position if they
were going to go grab this game, win this game.
(04:01):
I think he you know, I think Kayla Williams let
one get away y yesterday.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And I would say also, there were so many opportunities,
especially in short yardage situations where I can't even think
how many times there was a third and one a
fourth and one, and the Rams just made plays and
they just stepped up and look the Bears, you know,
starting left tackle was out, so Joe Toney had to
move over to left tackle from left guard. Like there
was moving parts there, but it just there was a
(04:28):
bunch of chances and a bunch of missed opportunities and
then of course it comes down to it and he
makes that whatever the hell you call that play from.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I don't know what that theador sanders at the perfect time,
like it's.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Just like they're really like there is a knack there,
there's something there to where he's got the ability to
like that. That was a sixty yard throw in those conditions.
It was sixty yard on his back foot on the run.
It just the whole the whole situation was wild. You mentioned,
you know, obviously the Rams and Matthew Stafford, who struggled
(05:04):
to really get a rhythm going, made just enough plays
to give the Rams to win. Sean McVay, the head
coach of the Rams, spoke afterwards about his team's performance
in the conditions.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I'm really excited because I can dive into this and
I can be better for us, and we'll have to
be against the phenomenal defense next week. But guys just
kept battling, they kept believing. And that's what it's about,
you know, there's no style points. It's about being able
to survive in advance. And we were able to do
that in a tough, hostile environment. And it was cold today.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Do you think, by the way, the old cayenne pepper
and the socks thing that they were talking about pregame
where apparently the Rams had heard or somebody on their
staff had heard that one of the tricks in cold
weathers that you put kyenne pepper in your socks and
it heats up your feet.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well, that's all they put into those handwarmers. That's that's
really it really a couple. Yeah, I mean, I think
there's a couple chemicals that they may mix in, but
I do believe it's like it's Kanye and Pepper, like
I believe.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Okay, So then so if you if you rub your eyes,
that feels like a problem. Because I'll tell you this
right now, I was making chili at home.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
But you're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Somebody else would probably do that for you.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
But good, you're making jokes.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Well like I was making chili at home one time,
and I thought I washed my hands good enough, mixing
kyenne pepper, and then I went to go use the
restroom and uh, I gotta got all heat it up downstairs,
So that that just feels like a problem, like but
you know, apparently it worked and the Rams are are
off and run, and it just I kept thinking of
(06:45):
myself and watching the game last night, I kept thinking,
you know, LaVar told me a story playing at Soldier
Field to where he went to go use the showers afterwards,
and there.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Was no Hobazer reason COPD.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
So like, I just wonder, did the Rams get the
same treatment in those conditions or we have we come
a long way in that place and then at Soldier
Field to where that's not going to be a problem
postgame for those guys.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
It doesn't say cayenne pepper and these ingredients I'm looking at,
but one has salt.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's interesting a Soldier Field is burn your balls off.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I'll tell you that from personal experience literally burning balls.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I used to put. I used to put vasiline on
my feet and then put plastic baggies on top, like
the baggies you used for ice, and then tape them
and then put my socks on.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Top of them.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Wouldn't that be slippery?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It's a it's a tad bit slick, but it's not
as slick as you would think because your foot is
stuffed inside of the shoe, so you don't have very
much give. Like you don't there's not very much room
for it to feel like you're slipping.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And would you just have the softest feet after too,
like that much on yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I never really thought to check on them, but you know,
I do have pretty decent feet, so maybe maybe it
did a good job on them. I don't know, but
I know it kept your feet warm because it was
more about you know, the coldness like kind of creeps
in and if it's wet, usually it's it's raining or
it's snowing at that point the time of the year.
So if you can keep your feet dry, it's kind
(08:33):
of you know, they they worked for you.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
But that's what I used to do.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Is it's probably kind of weird that that I did
it because I did know, you know, obviously it makes
your your foot slick, but it worked.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Definitely worked, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
But again I'll say this, you know, in this game,
you know, they the Rams defense dealt with losing. I
don't know what happened to Byron Young, which is to me,
that's just a significant loss. I don't know if people
realized that he went out of the game. I don't
(09:09):
know if I heard it. I had music planned, so
I don't know if I heard that they announced that
he wasn't in the game at any point or reported it.
But I know he recorded some stats but was not there,
and I felt as though that was a you know,
you missed that presence on the field, especially as it
(09:30):
got later into the game. And in fact, one of
the bigger plays that was made was it was number
ten I believe who was in the game. I'm not
sure what his name was or is, but number ten
for the Rams came off the edge and did the
you know the most. You just can't do it, especially
(09:52):
in a situation as big as that. You can't lose
contain and he pushed up field and then he put
pushed inside and Caleb Williams was able to break the contain.
I think it was Caleb Williams. It might have been
a run play, but I'm pretty certain it was it
was Maybe it was maybe he did run. I don't know,
(10:15):
but he lost contain and I just started thinking to myself.
I was like, man, I hadn't seen young in a while,
and you know, Verse was was doing what he could do,
and and I just I don't know, Man, I felt
like the Rams defense overcame not not being at full strength.
They played well enough for this team to win. So
(10:38):
I thought it was a weekend of defenses, and I'm
happy to see that it's still about defense in terms
of getting close to winning and getting this close to
a Super Bowl. It really is about your defenses.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And also, if you could just go back to that
game last night to where one of the criticisms was,
and I think it was was probably part of the
reason why the Bears kept trying to push the ball downfield.
The Rams secondary is the weakness on that defense. Like
they're the Rams defensive front is really good, their linebacking
corps is really good. The problem is they've invested so
(11:15):
much on the front seven that the back end they've struggled.
And I think Ben Johnson thought there was an opportunity
downfield to make plays. But in those conditions, man, the
balls going all over the place.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Also on some on those picks. Credit to those guys.
It's not like those are easy catchings.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Oh guess.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Maybe the best, maybe the best catch of the game
was by a Rams defensive back in the end catch
and so you like you saw the Bears struggling to
hold onto the football, to catch the football. They were
catchable passes, the one to Roma Dunsday, which would have
been a touchdown in the first quarter when the Bears
first got.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
The ball, like there were opportunities there.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But yeah, the defense stepped up and Dennis Allen, the
defensive coordinator for the Bears, who realized after the first drive,
I've got to, you know, start doing things a little
bit differently here because the Rams went down and scored.
And next thing, you know, Jakwan Brisker, who was fantastic
in that game, all best best Bears defender on the
(12:21):
field by far, and probably the best game of his career,
of his career at this point with the Bears. And
I do think that the defensive side of the ball
stepped up last night in a way that I don't
think a lot of people thought. Because the knock on
the Rams was that secondary you can throw on them,
especially over the past several weeks they've struggled, and the
(12:43):
knock on the Bears was, yeah, they can get turnovers,
but if they can't get turnovers, they're not going to
be competitive. They got no turnovers last night, and they
were competitive and damn near almost won the game.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I mean, the Bears gave it away three times times
and one and the most critical point of the game,
at least protect the ball. Matthew Stafford did not play
well by standard, but he did not turn the ball over.
Took sacks but did not turn the ball over, didn't
(13:18):
get tds but didn't turn the ball over. And when
they needed a big play, you know Davante Adams. He
didn't get targeted very much and didn't have very many catches,
but had a great catch and one of the biggest
moments of the game.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Poka Nakua. He showed up.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Didn't have that big of a game, but may made
plays for them when they needed it. There's a couple
of different guys you could throw in there, but they
weren't very productive in the passing game, and and listen,
they were pretty decent in the run game. I just
(13:58):
bro I think that this is going to be a
tough one for them moving forward. I mean, I mean,
you know, every every team took some some lumps coming
out and let this past game or even going into it.
But and I felt like with with the depleted you know,
depleted you know, players on on some of these AFC teams,
(14:19):
I thought it was like in the hands of the NFC,
whoever makes it out of NFC. With all the injuries
you're seeing taking place in the AFC, I'm like, yeah,
maybe it's an NFC year, you know, another year for
the NFC to get it, but I'm not sure. Everybody
seems to be pretty injured.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, it's and you just you mentioned the missed opportunities,
especially last night, if you look at it from the
Chicago standpoint, that there was a real chance for them
to be in an NFC title game against Seattle, which
would have been a tough ask, but the opportunities were
there last night. They turned the ball over three times.
If you just go look at the numbers, If you
go and look at the stats, almost equal down the
(14:57):
board between these two teams. The difference was those turnovers.
The Bears had three, the Rams had none. Ben Johnson,
their head coach, spoke about the disappointment following the loss, you.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Know, disappointing, disappointing result tonight. Our guys fought the entire way,
just just like they have all season long. I thought,
you know, this was very much like our team has been.
And you got to give the Rams credit. You know,
Coach McVeigh does a does a phenomenal job. Coach Shulet
did a great job with their defense this week. And
(15:29):
you know, they ended up making a couple more plays
than we did and that's why ended up going in
overtime and they ended up coming out on top. And so,
you know, like I said, disappointing result. Our guys are
feeling it right right now. They all believe, man, they
all believed all year long that we could find a
way to win each and every week. And so it's
(15:51):
disappointing like that, But I am proud of the group.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So that was Ben johnson obviously successful year.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, I just you know, you start to look around
and go, I don't know, Washington had a pretty good
year last year too, and we see what happens a
year later. Just some of those bounces that went your
way this year, you can't expect that's going to happen again,
and they won a lot of fluky games, and you know,
most notably the one against Green Bay the week before.
I just I think that that'll be a big question mark.
(16:22):
Is this is the way they won games sustainable? I
think that it is because they've got so much talent.
But you know, who knows, it's a weird league.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Like I said, it was a missed opportunity for Caleb
Williams because some of those games you can't question. But
what you wouldn't be able to question is if he
was able to complete one of those passes after getting
the game too overtime, completing one of those passes.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
To win the game.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, you know, and so to me, potentially win the
game because what the ams would have got the ball back.
But there was one time when when was it that
he would throw incompletes on like in the rid zone,
like he missed him in the end zone.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Well, he did end up getting it at the end.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I mean, he did end up getting the hell mary
at the or to throw up the toss up at
the end, but I mean he wasn't able to get
it done when when they got the ball in in overtime,
It's like kind of starting the starting to running run
together for me. But the point is is that there
were opportunities for Caleb Williams to take a massive step
(17:34):
forward because you didn't have Matthew Stafford playing the best
of best football games. Your defense was playing, playing a strong,
solid game. It was just set up for him to
show that the beers are here. Caleb Williams is hair like,
let's we're in the championship round.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Let's get it, you know what I mean? But it
didn't happen that way.
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Speaker 4 (18:48):
Good good day to you.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
If you're not, you know, and you're still working, you know,
still take a moment in time to just kind of,
you know, for the good things. Obviously there's there's always
negative things that people can try to bring up around such,
you know, moments like these, but yeah, just take a
moment to appreciate the good things about you know, where
our society in some ways shapes forms have gotten to.
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It is a Monday tradition here on the show. It
is the FSR IR. We're going to report any issues, injuries,
ailments from a long weekend here with the crew. That'll
be yours right here on Fox Sports Radio. So I
was saying this LeVar that in every group, there's always.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
An ugly one, you know, I heard you say that.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, nobody's got a perfect record, and this weekend in
the NFL, there was an ugly one. Okay, uh, step
right up, Seahawks Niners because boil Boy was that rough.
That was That was an ass whooping and a half
that Seattle gave San Francisco who came and banged up
(22:31):
and got lit up by the Seattle Seahawks coming off
a bune.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Everybody was making fun of them.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Their intro with the boom box, save back Mac was
shooting the little little the water gun.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
They said.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Trent Williams came in real, real smooth on the big
Man slide. They said, the one receiver he said about
it looks of the way they came, came to the
field with the with the boom box.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
They was about to get it in.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
They didn't even get it into the end zone, not
one time. So yeah, it was an ugly one, but
I think everybody, I think I felt like everybody was
kind of anticipating and embracing for this to be the
game that exposed, you know, everything that they were lacking
and were missing.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, it was like, I mean, the fact that they
were even in this spot, you know, like says a
lot about you know, the job Kyle Shanahan did, and
just the team and their resilience and all that. But man,
it was like even the guys who were playing dealt
with injuries. So look, George Kittle's out, you know, one
(23:42):
of their best players. Fred Warner's out, one of their
best players. You know, Nick Bosa is out, one of
their best players. Well, who else is one of their
best players? Well, Trent Williams, he dealt with stuff this year.
Brock brock Purty missed time because of you know what
was it, the Planner FASc itis or whatever the hell
(24:03):
he turf toe was turf tow he was dealing with.
And mac jones had to step up. And Christian McCaffrey
was dealing with a stinger and he took a beating
in that game. It's just like you can only do
so much before sooner or later, the reality sets in
that a team that looks rested and a team that
(24:25):
looks like they're taking full advantage of home field advantage,
just put that work on San Francisco on Saturday, and
you know, Sam Darnold had his oblique issue. He spoke
about getting ready for the game with the oblique injury
that he suffered that we talked about on Friday on
the show.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Here was the Shawks quarterback.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
So obviously I didn't go out for the non padded
warm up. I think that kind of stirred, you know,
some questions, which was funny, but no, I got to
throw in here and you know did the same thing
did myerteine in here, But just wanted to throw make
sure that I was you know, once I put the
pads on and got that first, like that padded warm up,
(25:06):
I wanted to be rolling and I didn't want to
waste any time, you know, getting warm on the field
and coming in having forty minutes to get warm again
and then go back out Like I just wanted to
get warm once and then go back out there in
the pads. And so that was kind of that was
why I did it that way.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I mean, the way they ran the ball, he didn't
have to do a hell of a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Like he just say, the way that defense played, he
didn't have to do a whole hell of a lot.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
But I just.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Wonder, like, the biggest takeaway outside of the fact that
Seattle is dominant and will probably win the Super Bowl,
can if nothing crazy happens, like if his obleak doesn't
fall apart and fall out of his chest, out of
his you know, his rib or his side of his body,
(25:54):
if something doesn't go like just crazy wrong for Seattle.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I feel like going to be the team that wins
this Super Bowl. I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I don't think coming into this game the Rams are
going to have I just don't think they're going to
have enough to go in there and win it. I mean,
it looked as though they could have went home yesterday.
But I also I also came away from thinking like
tang like Philadelphia, Like do you understand what that kind
(26:26):
of means that they were able to thump They thumped
the Niners like it didn't even look like a competitive game,
and you're watching it, and you're watching it get away
from them, and all I could think about was, Man,
(26:47):
this team has has everything you just highlighted, has had
to overcome all of those things to be able to
get to where they are. They should not have been
able to get through a Philadelphia Eagles team in Philly
just made me wonder, like it just took it just
took me down a whole different.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Lane where it was like, what the hell is.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Going on in Philly? Yeah, because really what.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Should have happened was it should have been a Philly
versus Seattle game and you would have saw two Juggernauts,
a new one to the table and what's been built
in Seattle, but nonetheless a juggernaut this year take on
the former chat.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
That's still the chant I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
And the way that it would have played out is
Philly would have played Chicago and the Rams would have
gone to Seattle. Oh play the Seahawks, just be based
on the seating.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
But well even that, even that, you know what I mean,
Like even yet, and still it still raises the question
to me because those two teams played oh yeah, yeah,
and the forty nine ers played the Eagles the Eagle,
which okay, the match of whatever matchup is after that,
it would have probably ended up being Seattle and the
Eagle was playing anyway, if they were playing the way
(28:03):
they're supposed to play, Seattle, they're they're ringing the ball,
they're playing the way they're supposed to.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Play, and it's and to your point on the on
the Eagles conversation, Yeah, it is one of those well
how could they do it?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
And you couldn't.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I mean they did, and they were both at home,
both yes, both hostile environments. Philly was at home, and
you know, the Niners were were banged up in that
going into that game. They lost George Kittle in that game,
and still you had nothing. And it's not like, and
this is what I hope people understand, It's not like
(28:39):
the Niners defense was lighting the league on fire this year.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
They were awful.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
They looked awful so much, but they looked like they
were just they was taking belt ass on on on
Philly in that game.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
And so when you when you consider and you factor
in how bad the Niners defense was all year, I
mean you remember the Sunday night game against the Bears,
Caleb Williams and the Bears went down the field on
them at will whenever they wanted to, went went drive
or drive with them, and Philly could get nothing going.
And you've got Saquon Barkley and Jalen Herbs, and you've
(29:18):
got like you, like you were healthy, like you, I know, Lane.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Johnson, everybody, but you had all your.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Threats that were there, and then to see what Seattle
did a week later with a quarterback who's you know,
dealing with an oblique injury.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
That was. That was that row just trying to make
sense of it, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
That was when I watched that game, I was like, Okay,
I anticipate that that Seattle, even though I didn't think
that they would.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I did not think they would cover.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I think on Saturday I took I took Seattle would win,
but I took the Niners with the points. I thought
it wouldn't be more than seven points. Oh that was
I thought it would be. I thought it would be
less than seven. But my goodness, they dominated them. And
(30:06):
they dominated them from the jump like it wasn't like
they waited.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
They just came out and.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Thumped them like it was like real quick, like listen,
like we're gonna beat the hell out of y'all, and
then second quarter, we're gonna fall back a little bit,
take a little breath, breath, take our foot off the gas,
get into halftime, and then we're gonna come out and
we're just gonna destroy you in the second half as well,
(30:32):
and you're gonna take it and you're gonna like it,
and then you're gonna rap back to to you know,
San Francisco and watch the Super Bowl that y'all thought
y'all was gonna sneak into and be the story of
the year, and that came to an end.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
That's that comes to an end today. It just it
was a.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Classic, classic ass whipping and it just made me really wonder,
how does a team that has to travel they didn't
have to travel as far to get to Seattle. That's
a very very closed flight, you know what I mean, Like,
so you got a shorter flight. It's more it's more
of your weather component where you're at versus going all
(31:12):
the way across the country and playing in the Link
and playing in that is one of the toughest places
to play a football game, and.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
You go in there and you win.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I was like, well, we're sitting here and we're hyping
and we're boosting up this forty nine ers team. But
I think we saw truly what the real forty nine
ers team was against the Seattle Seahawks, which again it
left me with a ton of questions more so about
how good is Philly versus how bad? You know, the
(31:42):
forty nine ers. You know how bad they really are?
How good the Seattle Seahawks are.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
The Eagles are so bad that they lost to a
team that practices next to Chernobyl.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You stupid, like a.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Nuclear react is right outside the practice facility for the lot.
All right, there's there's a You got guys walking around
with these mysterious injuries popping up, you got conspiracy theories
going on, and the Eagles lost to that team, like
they they lost to that team.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
It's a problem, man, But not in not in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
And I would say this Seattle a couple of weeks
ago also gave the Niners that work, and they gave
them that work at home on that Saturday night game,
which which ultimately won them the division, got them the
one seed, you know, helped solidify that. And you know,
if that game goes the other way, maybe this game
is played at Chernobyl instead of up in Seattle yesterday.
(32:45):
But I think, I think the Seahawks have shown and
this is what makes this matchup with the Rams so fascinating,
Like they've shown that, Yeah, they're legitimately a very good team.
The defense is outstanding. Mike McDonald's and a tremendous job.
But I go back to that Rams game that they
(33:05):
won on that Thursday night. Man, the Rams dominated that game,
like the Rams were in total control, and Seattle came
up with this fluky victory. And I still think there's
probably some questions about whether or not Sam Darnold in
these big moments, is going to be able to deliver.
And there's plenty of time to break down and preview
that game. But I just I look at it and
(33:27):
I go, I'm still not sure because he didn't have
to do anything against the night Ers on Saturday night,
like he just he didn't and he was banged up.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
So they bought him some time.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yep, I sure did.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
They bought him some time. That defense is as good
as advertise. They got a nice receiving corps that that
receiving corps is serious, and they got a running game.
Now the buddy sham shamborg you know whatever, you know
that you put in your drink, the chambourg bog bord, you.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
He went out a little injured shamboard shambourg that the liquor.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, by the way, you want to know, man, I'm
trying to remember the recipe. I think it's an absolute citron.
Is it shamboard? Is it D or G at the end?
Is it a deer g?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I'm gonna say a D at the end?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
All right, So it's absolute citron shamboord and I believe god.
There's one other thing, maybe grapefruit juice, and it's tremendous,
Like it's a really really good drink, really good drink.
I used to do it back in the day and
that I blew chunks on it one time and that
was a wrap never.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Again, never the same.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I'm like you've are if I if something leaves my
body that I've that I've drank, it will not be
in my body ever again. Once I do it, once
it's over. Yeah, that's that's out of that.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
That's it. Yeah, out of there.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Man.
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Speaker 9 (36:58):
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Speaker 9 (37:05):
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Speaker 2 (37:13):
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Speaker 9 (37:29):
Well, moving on, it's abreak in case you missed it, guys.
O Lord, and with the first one here, so it's
almost Super Bowl time, guys, and oh, boy, we all
know that. Well, we know Bad Bunny is gonna be
at the halftime show. However, we have an opening to
the super Bowl. That's right, Green Day. He's going to
(37:50):
be opening the super Bowl. They're going to be celebrating
six decades of the championship history, along with bringing in
Super Pass, Super Bowl MVPs, and attendance for big stravaganza.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I thought it was gonna be Kid Rock.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Well, I do like the approach of you know what,
our halftime performers so bad, how can we go worse?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I have Green Day show up. That's awesome. Not a fan,
and you know what it is about them? It took
me a while to figure it out. It's because my
ears work, so I think that's the real issue.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Damn while to figure that out.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I couldn't figure out.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
What it was.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I don't know if it was, you know, just whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
You're cold blooded, peace brou.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Cold blood.
Speaker 9 (38:41):
Alright, all right, well we're gonna move away from a
team that won't be going to the super Bowl anytime soon.
The Pittsburgh Steelers. Guys, they are expected to speak with
drum roll, but.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Oh wait, wait, wait, I do have one two seconds there. Wait, yes, now, uh.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
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Speaker 2 (39:21):
Users, that's the one part. Yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
He's a wes p A or that's.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Home hometown guy goes home. What do you think?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Come on, come on, well, Mike.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
McCarthy, his dad was a cop in the area growing up,
ran a bar stealer. And let me tell you something.
You can do a lot worse than Mike McCarthy. Alright,
he's won a lot of games in his.
Speaker 10 (39:49):
Career, Steelers, what do you And maybe maybe this would
entice Aaron Rodgers to want to come back play for
his old coach, and Mike McCarthy run this thing back
and see if uh still, I don't.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Know about that, but I.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Don't know if that makes it.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Let's not get carried away.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I mean, I think that Mike McCarthy would be a
fine hire.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I just I feel like there's always going to be
a lot.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Of pressure all higher in a Steeler coach because they
don't you know, yeah, they don't have They have not
hired very many. You know.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I was thinking about that too yesterday and looking at
the story. Yeah, you don't want to be the first
Steelers coach to where they're.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Like, yeah, they working, Yeah, the work.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
That's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Man, they've met three since the sixties. You don't want
to be the one that they oust in like two
years because because it's failed and it has been working.
I just you know, this would I mean, I think
this would be the first offensive minded head coach that
they would go.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
If they were to go with Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I think Brian flores Is still is getting love there
in Pittsburgh, but.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
That would be the first because Bill Cower was a
defensive guy.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Tomlin, But Tomlin was a receiver in college, wasn't he?
Speaker 7 (41:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
But I think he was on the defensive side of
the staff when.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
He started coaching.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah yeah, yeah right, but he did play played offense.
I mean, and then obviously Chuck Nole. I don't know
what Chuck Knowle's background is. Honestly, I wouldn't have known
if he was a defensive coach or an offensive coach
if you asked me so. But he built that team
through defense, like he built the Steel Curtain first, and
(41:36):
then they you know, rest is history.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
How do you think that fan base would react to
a Mike McCarthy hiring.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
There'd be it's hard to say, man like some.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Pride maybe and like, you know what, he's one of us,
Like he's a guy all of a sudden that the
Yinser accent would come out like it would, it would
come out.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
And it's hard. I think it's hard to say. I
think people.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Are welcoming a new a new coach, but I think
that it's going to be a process.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
It'll be a process, is what I'll say.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
And Bill Cowers
Speaker 1 (42:13):
From Crafton to by the way, Mike McCarthy from Green
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