January 3, 2023 • 39 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington react to Bills Safety Damar Hamlin being in critical condition after suffering cardiac arrest after a hit on MNF. Aaron Rodgers and the Packers ‘manifested’ their win-and-in status heading into week 18. LaVar recounts his time at the Rose Bowl where Penn State beat Utah 35-21 and a record-setting night in the NBA on In Case You Missed It.
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latest on the Damar Hamlin situation there in Cincinnati, scary
scene last night on Monday Night Football, we will discuss.
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So first show of three for us here, and we
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were expecting to talk about just a great football weekend,
wire to wire, great games all the way throughout. We
get to one of the most anticipated Monday night football
matchups that we can remember in a long time between
the Bills and the Bengals last night, and then midway
through their first quarter, after making a play on Tee
Higgins is to mar Hamlin, the defensive back for the
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Buffalo Bills, stood up and just collapsed. Um went into
a cardiac arrest and the very latest from the Buffalo
Bills is that he is still in critical condition. They
were able to get his heart beat back on the field,
and that is where we are at right now. But look,
you guys have been a lot close, up close and personal,
more so than I have our most majority of people listening.
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I mean, you guys have seen a lot of wild
things on a football field before, injuries, emotions, all that stuff.
I don't recall seeing a lot of things that even
came close to what we saw last night. Crazy. That
was I'm sure horrifying for a lot of people who
were watching, and even for guys who have played them
in a part of the game. I've never witnessed anything
like that. Now. I've been through some tragic events, but
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you know they didn't take place in the middle of
a game like that. I've seen injuries. We've seen guys
who have gone down and you've got down on a
knee and prayed around other teammates, and you've watched them
be carried off and you know, or or they get
up and they are able to walk it off and
and they give you the sign of everything's gonna be okay.
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This was this was different. You know, this was one
of those moments that really made you look back and
kind of reflect on the game itself, the risk that
athletes put themselves in. And obviously we still don't have
a lot of information on what exactly it is that
took place, but we do know Damar Hamlin went into
cardiac arrest and if if, if not for the twenty
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medical professionals who acted swiftly on the field to save
his life, I mean, it could have been catastrophic. And
and I guess from the last update that we've received
from the Buffalo Bills, you know, he's in critical condition
at this point. However, it looks like the prognosis moving
forward is a bit more optimistic than what it was
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when they're performing CPR for nine minutes. So just a crazy,
scary event, and even how it happened, because it seemed
like it was so out of the ordinary. It wasn't
one of those big collisions. It wasn't a hit like
we saw with Josh Schweat this past weekend where he
laid limp on the field or motionless. You know, this
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was a hit where it didn't seem overly vicious. Him
and Tehiggans both went to the ground and he got
up and then subsequently fell, which as you saw afterwards
how scary that moment then became. But again credit to
um all the medical the medical staff involved with both
teams for being able to save his life. It puts
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things in perspective when you see those things happen. I
actually did experience something kind of close um to to
what happened last night, um in the hit that took place,
and it was when our tight end was was hit
in in the Michigan game. Bob Stevenson UM, one of
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the most scariest moments, upsetting moments that that you could
ever have. It's it's a it's a surreal moment when
you see and and I don't even think the hit
last night was even that. It wasn't that it wasn't
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a bad hit. It wasn't like it was a crazy,
crazy valent hit. And then and then he you know,
he went to the ground. It just you know, however
it happened, it happened, and you saw how serious it
was in nature the way he fell back down to
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the ground. Um And not that kind of mixed the
two stories, but just when when you see and you
experience something so close up and and you're so close
to it, those those first, those first few moments, man,
are you know, you just start re evaluating so quickly,
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like you you start you start thinking about all the
things that you're thankful for. You you start praying and
and hoping that you know it's gonna work out and
and be okay. You know, those two guys never played
any football again after after that hit um in in
nine in Happy Valley. Um, I don't know, you know
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what what the young man's you know, future is, And
in terms of playing the game, you just hope that
you know he's okay, and you hope that you know,
he you know, finds his way back to to the
level of health that he had before before that moment
took place, and and that whatever the prognosis was that
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comes out of it, is that you know that they're clear,
hopefully on what it was. And I guess when you
when you again put it in active, you did. I
think the first thing you you ask yourself is, man,
is it worth it? You know? And you start thinking about,
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I don't play anymore, but I have to two sons
that played the game, and you immediately start to ask yourself,
you know, are you okay with it? Are you okay
with your kids playing. And I know that that's probably
what a lot of people thought last evening, And I
think that that's one of those hard conversations to actually have,
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you know, when something like that happens. But I also
would say, putting it in perspective, you know, it's it's you.
You understand that it is a valient game and that
certain things you know, can happen. And and is that,
you know, is the physicality of the game the reason
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why that happened. I don't know, um, but again, I
hope the young man is is okay and recover as well.
And you know, I don't know, I don't know how
you know, how we you know, people will make sense
of it, because that's a hard one because it's connected
to a physical game. It's uh, you could tell by
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the reactions of the players that it was just a
different deal. Like you could also tell by the sense
of urgency on the field. Anybody that's ever you know,
seeing a loved one get taken away in an ambulance
or get taken away. You know, there's like a pace
that they're at and when it when it's okay, you know,
we we just want to make sure everything's Okay, they're
looking at vitals, they're checking everything, and they get them
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loaded up and they take them away. There was a
sense of urgency almost immediately. To Brady's point, they acted
really fast and a lot of people got together, and
just to see the reactions of the players you could tell,
for I would probably say a majority, if not all,
of them, had never seen anything to that level. And
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to see how bo other and upset and I mean
basically disturbed would be the best way for it. Just
the looks on their face was pretty telling of just
how serious the situation was on the field. I can't
even imagine. Man, that's that's right. It's it's incredible to
think that. And I know Troy Vincent of the NFL
is come out and almost fallen on the sword for
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Roger Goodell, but um, it's it's incredible to think that
the NFL paused for a period of time and thought
they were maybe going to go back out and and
call and play that game. There was no chance. Well
there's no chance because you had two men, one in
Zach Taylor and another other Sean McDermott, who weren't gonna
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allow that to happen. And credit to them, you know,
forget records, forget what they've accomplished so far as head coaches.
They both walked across the field and talk to each other,
and it looked like Zach Taylor initiated. It was like,
this ain't happening, Like you go back to your locker
room and talk to your players. I'm going back to mind.
But I don't think either one of us are in
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a position to want to go play a meaningless football
game in the grand scheme of life. And I say
that only because, like I understand, there's playoff implications and
all this stuff that we care about with football. We
talked about it every day. But now you're talking about
guys who just witnessed something that they may never witness
again in their life, where a medical staff had to
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save someone's life on the field right there in front
of him, and he made a play that looked very
similar to all the plays that had occurred before that
in the game and maybe throughout their lives playing football
to a degree, and he just dropped. I mean, that
is a scary, scary event for all parties involved to witness,
and and I just I sit back and think to myself,
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it took and I'm not gonna base this off of
social media, um the cess pool that that is. But
it took them so long to be able to call
it for what for what reason? I mean, you're the NFL,
who knows what was gonna occur once tomorrow Hamlin went
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into that E M. S. When when went to the hospital.
You have no idea the status of that young man,
and that's all that mattered at that point, not playing
a game. So I was a bit disappointed by the
NFL handling it and kind of delaying the inevitable just
calling it at that point, and I realized there's a
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lot of communication involved. They're still trying to get more information.
But you I mean, as in the ESPN by the way,
to the tremendous job covering it all parties involved, whether
it was up in the booth and Joe Buck and
Troy Lisassaulters, who was um incredibly strong handling it, and
everyone else, if everybody even studio, They did such a
good job handling something that you're just not prepared for
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from a broadcast standpoint. But the NFL said to me,
was finally got it right, but just it looked so
so bad for about half an hour forty five minutes
period of time where you're like, like, what why is
this like still being considered postpone, Like this this game
is over, They're not playing tonight, like send the fans home.
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People sit in a stance for what an hour or
more than an hour waiting to get a decision to
be made. It was that was ridiculous in my mind.
And look do we learned during COVID there if there's
ways that you can figure out how to reschedule a
game and get it done quick. I mean, Brady, you
called a college football game what nine am local time
in l A at the Rovers Bowl, Like there there's options,
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there's you know, other days, there's way ways to figure
this out. The idea just to see the look on
those players faces and and for those coaches, you have
to understand, these guys aren't playing like this is this
is different. They know it's different. There's a different vibe,
a different field to it. Just the fact that there
was any sense that well we could probably get this
in you know, just just let's see how this works.
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And then yeah, that was crazy. I didn't get the
feeling at all at any point after it happens, seeing
the looks on faces. I don't know how they played
this game. You're looking. Two thousand twelve, we had a
player take his own life and and and the life
of his baby's mama the day before game, and we
were literally I was driving in to go to the
facility and I was directed by the police to take
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a different negagite. Which was extremely unusual, was that the
day before the game. Yeah, it was a Saturday morning
before and I called my quarterback coach, Jim's Orn and
he always said to me on the phone, was Brady,
there's been a tragedy that's taken place. He goes, I
need you to listen to me, and I need you
to go to the stadium and wait for further instructions.
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And I saw I was like, Coach, what is going on?
He's like, He's like, I can't tell you at this time.
He goes, I need you to wait, and I need
you to go to the stadium, and I need you
to tell that to every other player two that's still
coming in, because obviously I'd get in there before most.
And so as we start started to funnel into the
stadium locker room, there are a few players who are
already aware of the situation given who his his baby
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mama was and what had already occurred. And you know,
at that point I wasn't sure what the thing, but
once I was being told what had taken place, I
was in a state of shock. I mean, this was
a player that I lined up from every day that
season and stretched lines. He was our base inside linebackers,
starter and core special teams player. He had just had
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a little baby. I remember sitting out during one of
the events at the stadium and the suite, looking out
on the field with him and his daughter, Zoe and
talking about life and perspective and how things change when
you have a child, and all of that gone, and
guys were like literally in a state of shocks. Some
guys were, you know, crying their eyes out, you know,
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losing a friend, losing a teammate. And I remember thinking
of myself, like, how in the world did they expect
us to go play a game? And yet the NFL
pushed forward and it was It was probably one of
the more ruthless truths and like hardest times in my life,
like in perspective, thinking about the game of football and
and whether it matters or not because of everything that
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transpired even the following week with you know, the um,
the funeral and everything that that you know transpired that season,
but it just it all felt so meaningless in the
grand scheme of things, but just the fact that, you know,
obviously the people in Kansas City did the best they
could to handle the situation, which no one's prepared to
handle that, but the reality was, you know that there
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should have been more time and consideration taken for all
parties involved. And so I'm glad the NFL again came
to the right conclusion at some point last night. And
how they end up, you know, scheduling this it seems
like kind of insignificant at the moment, and I know
it matters for the greater scheme of what the NFL
you know, provides as a form of entertainment for football,
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But again, until they understood, until they a better sense
of Damar Hamlin's health, it's gonna be hard to want
to think that that you should have either team move
forward given what you know. Tee Higgins was a part
of in that play, and Cincinnati witnessed, and even Buffalo,
I mean, some of those players stayed in Cincinnati where
the rest went back because they want to stamp you
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with their teammate. Yeah, there was a report from Lisa
Psalters and any ESPN that said Stefon Diggs took an
uber to the hospital and was just sort of still
in a kind of a state of panic. Just wanted
some some answers wanted to know what was going on.
It's just an uneasy feeling trying to get back on
a plane and go back to Buffalo. When your teammate
is in a hospital that you saw nearly die on
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a field feed away from you. It's that's just a crazy,
crazy situation all the way around. So again, the latest
on Damar Hamlet of the Buffalo Bills. He is in
the hospital in critical condition. Um, they're going to We'll
give you updates here on this show obviously, of course
throughout the course of the show, as soon as we
have any sense of what his latest status is, and
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then the NFL's plan moving forward, all the other details
that come out on this as it's a very fluid situation,
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very latest on Bill safety to mar Hamlin still in
critical condition. He is at the hospital. Uh. They were
able to get his heart going again on the field
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on the playing field over in the NFC when it
comes to the world of football, UM, you know some
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of us were poking fun at Aaron Rodgers and the
Green Bay Packers weeks and weeks Ago. I mean I
was a believer from from the get go. I don't
know about you guys. I mean I was definitely a
believer from the get go that the green Bay Packers
were going to be making a run here. I mean
I believe I had the Packers going to the super Bowl.
So um yeah, I tried to tell everybody. I was
trying to tell you guys, when you guys are ready
to just talk side, you know, I was trying to
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be I was the one talking about Aaron Rodgers looking
toads and how I felt like it was going to
be really the best thing for this team moving forward,
and so they're really going to do this, huh like
like this is really gonna happen. Rogers called his shot,
and then of course after the game on Sunday, and
that just dismantling of the Minnesota Vikings. Uh. He spoke
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big picture about the green Bay Packers and what he
saw moving forward. Things have been happening for us the
last few weeks exactly as we need them to happen.
And that's the mindset that I've had the entire time,
that that there's some destiny involved with this and and
this just on us to go out and fulfill that.
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That's a dangerous team if they get into beat them.
They thanked them, so it looks so bad is what
they're capable of though, right, I mean, this is what
I think this team has been capable of. Now they've
got a lot of help, right defensively, special teams. Um
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it was it Nikim Hines? What was it? The first
name that the kickoff return that they've got. My goodness,
like that dude. I think he's averaging what over ninety
kickoff yards a game since he's come on on the Packers,
Like he's been phenomenal for them and helping set up
fuel position and all that. And and just look at
a quarterback when you've got a dynamic returner. You know,
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I'll be I'll be honest, Like when they're turning for touchdowns,
Like sometimes that can make you kind of you love it,
but you kind of hate it at the same time
because you get out of a rhythm, right, Like it
could be fifteen twenty minutes before you touch the football
a game, maybe a half hour depending on stoppages and
how long drives are. But when they're just setting you up,
if like plus field position, when you get the round
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midfield and that's where you're starting your drives. You love
that because you know a lot of times with offense
coordinators they're aggressive and they're gonna dial up shots right away,
or just the fact that you really don't need to
do that much before you get back into the red
zone or in the end zone. Is Nixon was way off?
What I was like, I thinking that he hinds almost
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we'll clean it up in the podcast. Nobody heard it.
That's that's usually never the case. Actually, Um, I mean
I listened back and I'm like, oh, I thought we
were I thought we were taking that out. I guess
Jonas was joking. And the next week I thought we
were taking that out. Um. But but in all seriousness, like,
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that's such a big lift to this offense that I
don't even know that anyone, I mean, Aaron Rodgers talked
about it. But but again, this is all about the
power of the mind and manifestation of making these things
come true, LaVar, right, is that how this works? First
of all, Jonas, you're just leave leave che alone, man
Lettle make his points um secdly. You know, watching the
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way Green Bay played in that game, they look like
green Bay from last year, there were glimpses of it,
and for them to be in the position that they're
in after the start of the season that they've had
to be able to get things going the way that
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they've had that they have this late in the season. Man,
I don't remember. I don't recall it very vividly, so
you'll you'll excuse me if I don't have it all
the way correct. But it reminds me a little bit
of when the Steelers found the way to get into
the playoffs, and I think they were like an eighth
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seat or something to that effect. When when they got
in the year they wanted I want to say that
it was the O five year they beat Denver in
the a f C title game. Jake Plumber was the quarterback.
I want to say it was that they were a
sixth seed, because that's six That was when they beat
Indianapolis and Jerome Bettis fumbled and and their Indianapolis was
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going to return it for a touchdown and Ben Roethlisberger
made a play which basically saved saved their super Bowl
run and got them there for a Super Bowl on
the path too. So so sixth seed is I don't
know that that had even ever happened. Maybe once or so,
not even certain that that's ever happened. And I would
assume green Bay would have to be a very very um,
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you know, low ranked team um in terms of the
seating if they were indeed, like what what has to
happen for them to make the playoffs? By the way,
the Packers that all they needed was Cleveland to beat Washington,
which they did this password and the Irondy did that too.
And this isn't a big fun of coach Rivera because
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you know, people were taking shots out him after the
game because he wasn't aware that they could be eliminated.
But I mean Rogers talked about it. He literally said
like for Browns fans, like go Brown's before this week
even took place. And and of course you know they
end up again everything that they said they needed to happen,
they they manifested it. So it's it's all coming full
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So I think it all. I think it all worked
out because this is one now once again, the way
that Aaron Rodgers planted out to happen. You know, I
think that this was the script that he wanted to
play out. I think he wanted people to understand the
level and the magnitude of of gravity to greatness that
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that Aaron Rodgers has. And and right now, you know,
he's showing everyone. And you know, that's just how I
see it. Man. You know, if the Aaron Rodgers movie
is the Aaron Rodgers story, I think it'll be better
than Kurt Warners. You know, I watch what wouldn't be.
He's gonna make his own Yeah, I mean, but it's
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gonna come out on on Prime videos after after the season,
you know. But it's not like Rodgers is playing that great.
I mean, you know, you just sound such a bearss fan. No,
I'm not listen that. I don't care. What do I care?
Move on, and they're going to the playoffs. He's probably
gonna go on a Super Bowl run. It's it is
what it is to be. The Bears aren't even bol
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eligible this year, so it doesn't even matter. Okay, so
the Green Bay Packers are. You know, they've been a
better team for twenty five years. So can we go
back to the whole manifestation thing? Like so I understand,
like I believe in the power of belief, the mind,
all that stuff too, But just because you say it
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and trying to manifest it. What about if other people
are trying to do the exact opposite and saying it
manifesting it against you. Like Aaron Rofters is higher his manifesting, Yes,
and it took him licking the toad, as Jonas would say, Um,
you know, he's he's experienced the level of mental enlightenment
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that has led to him being able to manifest um
what he wants. That's that's why I told everybody to
R E L A X, you know, and and went
from there. I mean, it's just this is just Aaron
Rodgers esque, that's all I'll say. You're right cute, Like,
who's to say that? Well, you said it's going to
happen this way, so that's how it's gonna happen. I mean,
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Tom Brady, he couldn't come out and manifest something. It
seems well, it does seem like Tom Brady is manifesting.
I mean, some way, somehow. They're one of the worst,
really really good teams in the league right now. I
don't I don't get it. I don't get it. But
they're the chaps. They're going into the playoffs. They've they've
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clenched so I mean, for as poorly as they've seemed
to have played, they don't have very many losses. It's
kind of weird. But you know what, Tom Brady has
a different level of manifestation um that you know, other people,
you know, they just don't possess it, you know. And
I am being totally sarcastic to everyone out there. And
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if you hear a little bit of a twins or
whatever in my voice, it's because I was screaming in
my head off for for four quarters yesterday. And you know,
you don't realize how loud you're screaming, by the way,
and in a stadium that's really loud, until the noise
of the stadium subsides, and then you allies that to
hear in order to hear yourself and to feel like
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the yelling that you're doing to the players during the game,
how obnoxiously loud you are. Um, you don't realize that
until your vocal cords are angry with you by by
the end of the game, queaking into it. I mean,
we ask you, how was it goodwin? We are dominant
way bailed bailed out the crumby Big ten. For a while,
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we didn't have a good showing this year. Yeah, it's
not been good. Penn State represented, man, yeah they did.
I think a lot of people were h shocked that
it went away, that it went Actually no, I had
Penn Stanley by the way. I was shocked. The Penn
State wasn't favored. Initially they were the underdog, and then
as leading up to the game that that line moved.
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But I love the over which I believe Hit loved
the Penn State in that one. But let me ask
you this. I saw some pictures from the stadium. You
toss seem to travel well like they had were you
were you? Yeah? Were you yelling? Because you guys were
out numbered. It looked like it was a sea of red.
You know, it was crazy. By the time we got
to the fourth quarter, you could we we overpowered. We
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we probably represented. It looked as though we represented twenty
five percent of the stadium. And yeah they represented. They
that it sounded like they were fifty. You know, we
were overtaking their their fan bades like it was. It
was pretty cool. There were no utah utes up in there.
(29:38):
I mean at half you guys, because it was tight.
It was to tighter half. Yeah, fourteen fourteen. It had
to have been fun like that was a good game
until it was very I mean it was it was
what you thought it was going to be. Um they
were going to Yeah, well he was. He was the
difference maker in the game. And unfortunately he was the
difference maker because he ke stepping out of out of
(30:01):
the truck and going into the Serengetti. Man. And then
when you be running into Serengetti and there's a whole
bunch of lions out there running in the Serengetti and
you catch them, you know you're gonna catch your body.
I mean, you're just gonna catch your body. You gotta
stay yeah, man, But you know we're saying, you know,
we say North Hills, LaVar, you know we say at
(30:21):
North Hills, what's that? You ain't ready for the getty
man and Serengetti? And I guess basic right now, I
don't know Serengetti. Uh. It is two pros and the
Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way,
congratulations to Sean Clifford. Final game Penn State at age
(30:45):
forty two. So congratulations to oh guy. Come on, he
played well, man, he played great. And that was this
that was his lass least one. Yeah, LaVar, do you
think he's gonna he's gonna try to go pro or
you think he's I mean, I'm sure he wants to
play play at the next level. But I'm sure he's
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you know, the one thing about him being so older,
so much older, you know, his level of maturity is there.
You know, he created his business um limitless, and he's
got he's got plenty of athletes that he's already been
representing and getting them an I L deal. So I mean,
I'm I'm I'm blown away by his business acumen and
(31:29):
just his willingness to take a chance on on creating
a startup business while in school while playing. But who
better to do it than someone who understands exactly how
school works, um, understands the schedule of how football works,
and is able to balance out all of those things.
And there may be a tab bit of sarcasm and
(31:51):
that as well, Um yeah, yeah, yeah, a little sarcasm there,
but but at the ain't token you know what, there
is some genuineness and that as well. Sean Clifford is
a very impressive, impressive young man. But going back to it,
did you do you think he'll he will try to
go pro. And there's a kid at Notre Dame who
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had a great Bowl game and probably could have had
a shot to try to go that route, and he
just he've already announced like that said, I'm done playing football.
I've got a job lined up come here in a
couple of days. I wouldn't be surprised if he did that. Really,
I wouldn't be surprised if he did that, but I
would guess that he would want to play it out
and see if there is a chance for him to
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case you missed this, that's right, LaVar, In case you
missed this. Donovan Mitchell scoring a franchise record seventy one
points for the Calves last night, helping them beat the
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Bulls three in overtime, the most points scored by any
NBA player since Kobe did it against Toronto in two
thousand and six. How about that, a Brady? How about
your Cleveland Calves, Donovan? They are fun to watch. That
team has all of a sudden become a legit contender
in the East in my opinion, But I'm surprised that
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the franchise record. I would have thought Lebron has all those.
But do you think this will make Lebron want to
go back to Cleveland to try and set the franchise
record third time. Yeah, you know, like he's got to
make sure. I don't know, but you know, I mean
we did win the championship, So if you more interesting,
like if if the Calves won without him, would they
want to invite him back at that point? Even how
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the Lakers have kind of I'm taking out to Allens
to Clevelane. Yeah, back to the land um, But I mean,
what was it too. He's one of the only players
in NBA history too, I think be a part of
either scoring or assisting on like ninety nine points. I
saw that stats somewhere too. I mean, he's like the
(35:45):
second player in NBA history. Pretty ridiculous when you think
about that. Yeah, Like it's like it's rare that it's
been like David Robinson scored seventy one back in and
other than that in the Kobe Bryant, Like this is
the third time somebody scored seventy plus since like the sixties.
So pretty incredible for Donovan Mitchell there. And it's a
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it's almost like if you ever guys playing a pickup
game where everyone like it just expects you to be
the guy that keeps like waiting for you to shoot it.
You've like no one's You're like all right, Like I've
gotta be Donvin Mitchell. I'm gonna have to drop seventy
one of these cook up games A story of my life.
People looking at me like, hey man, can you get
us a bucket? I guess I mean, I'll do it again.
You know, I'd like to get in a sister too,
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but it wasn't allowed. But again, dang, what else guys?
In case you missed at, the NFL has officially revealed
the final Sunday night game of the season, that being
the Packers versus the Lions. It could be a winner
in uh scenario for both teams. That is, if Seattle
suffers a loss earlier in the day to the Rams.
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Now Seattle does beat the beat the Rams, the Lions
will be eliminated and the Packers or winner in I mean,
if the Lions get eliminated, you know Dan can what
was going to go for it all? He's going to
try and ruin somebody's season or do do something. I
just I feel like stories of this season, I'll tell
(37:10):
you that. I feel like, couldn't they have played made
these two games at the same time, Like there wasn't
another option for a Sunday night football game to where
you could kind of go back and forth, because you know,
the lines would haven't even to play for I think
it kind of loses its touch. Don't just said it right,
You just said it the right way. If they listen,
Dan Campbell is going to motivate those guys to spoil
(37:33):
the Packers season case close, Yeah, I mean that's that's
a ton of motivation, and the Packers are trying to
to live up to the expectation of they turned their
season around and we're able to make it into the playoffs.
Like that is a tremendously large game. No matter what
happens in the game for prior now, it does make
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it pretty cool if if when you're in like that,
I think that definitely has has a different type of
cash at to it. But but spoiling the season with
an interdivisional opponent, I think that's enough motivation. How do
we feel about Lions plus four and a half in
Green Bay? I think it's it's one of those games
(38:19):
where the Packers are just at a different point, sorry
as good as a season as it's been, and that's
why we will have their moments you know, what would
you go to? And one this week with your picks
three and oh come on, man, Knox locks folks. He's
still way below five on it for the season. Two
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games below. You were ten games below. You keep lying
to people you were ten games below. Coming in the weekend.
It's a new audience, so they don't know what lie
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We're also going to get into some threats in the
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were expecting to talk about just a great football weekend,
wire to wire, great games all the way throughout. We
get to one of the most anticipated Monday night football
matchups that we can remember in a long time between
the Bills and the Bengals last night, and then midway
through their first quarter, after making a play on Tee
Higgins is to mar Hamlin, the defensive back for the
(02:02):
Buffalo Bills, stood up and just collapsed. Um went into
a cardiac arrest and the very latest from the Buffalo
Bills is that he is still in critical condition. They
were able to get his heart beat back on the field,
and that is where we are at right now. But look,
you guys have been a lot close, up close and personal,
more so than I have our most majority of people listening.
(02:25):
I mean, you guys have seen a lot of wild
things on a football field before, injuries, emotions, all that stuff.
I don't recall seeing a lot of things that even
came close to what we saw last night. Crazy. That
was I'm sure horrifying for a lot of people who
were watching, and even for guys who have played them
in a part of the game. I've never witnessed anything
like that. Now. I've been through some tragic events, but
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you know they didn't take place in the middle of
a game like that. I've seen injuries. We've seen guys
who have gone down and you've got down on a
knee and prayed around other teammates, and you've watched them
be carried off and you know, or or they get
up and they are able to walk it off and
and they give you the sign of everything's gonna be okay.
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This was this was different. You know, this was one
of those moments that really made you look back and
kind of reflect on the game itself, the risk that
athletes put themselves in. And obviously we still don't have
a lot of information on what exactly it is that
took place, but we do know Damar Hamlin went into
cardiac arrest and if if, if not for the twenty
(03:31):
medical professionals who acted swiftly on the field to save
his life, I mean, it could have been catastrophic. And
and I guess from the last update that we've received
from the Buffalo Bills, you know, he's in critical condition
at this point. However, it looks like the prognosis moving
forward is a bit more optimistic than what it was
(03:53):
when they're performing CPR for nine minutes. So just a crazy,
scary event, and even how it happened, because it seemed
like it was so out of the ordinary. It wasn't
one of those big collisions. It wasn't a hit like
we saw with Josh Schweat this past weekend where he
laid limp on the field or motionless. You know, this
(04:14):
was a hit where it didn't seem overly vicious. Him
and Tehiggans both went to the ground and he got
up and then subsequently fell, which as you saw afterwards
how scary that moment then became. But again credit to
um all the medical the medical staff involved with both
teams for being able to save his life. It puts
(04:38):
things in perspective when you see those things happen. I
actually did experience something kind of close um to to
what happened last night, um in the hit that took place,
and it was when our tight end was was hit
in in the Michigan game. Bob Stevenson UM, one of
(05:01):
the most scariest moments, upsetting moments that that you could
ever have. It's it's a it's a surreal moment when
you see and and I don't even think the hit
last night was even that. It wasn't that it wasn't
(05:21):
a bad hit. It wasn't like it was a crazy,
crazy valent hit. And then and then he you know,
he went to the ground. It just you know, however
it happened, it happened, and you saw how serious it
was in nature the way he fell back down to
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the ground. Um And not that kind of mixed the
two stories, but just when when you see and you
experience something so close up and and you're so close
to it, those those first, those first few moments, man,
are you know, you just start re evaluating so quickly,
(06:02):
like you you start you start thinking about all the
things that you're thankful for. You you start praying and
and hoping that you know it's gonna work out and
and be okay. You know, those two guys never played
any football again after after that hit um in in
nine in Happy Valley. Um, I don't know, you know
(06:25):
what what the young man's you know, future is, And
in terms of playing the game, you just hope that
you know he's okay, and you hope that you know,
he you know, finds his way back to to the
level of health that he had before before that moment
took place, and and that whatever the prognosis was that
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comes out of it, is that you know that they're clear,
hopefully on what it was. And I guess when you
when you again put it in active, you did. I
think the first thing you you ask yourself is, man,
is it worth it? You know? And you start thinking about,
(07:11):
I don't play anymore, but I have to two sons
that played the game, and you immediately start to ask yourself,
you know, are you okay with it? Are you okay
with your kids playing. And I know that that's probably
what a lot of people thought last evening, And I
think that that's one of those hard conversations to actually have,
(07:34):
you know, when something like that happens. But I also
would say, putting it in perspective, you know, it's it's you.
You understand that it is a valient game and that
certain things you know, can happen. And and is that,
you know, is the physicality of the game the reason
(07:54):
why that happened. I don't know, um, but again, I
hope the young man is is okay and recover as well.
And you know, I don't know, I don't know how
you know, how we you know, people will make sense
of it, because that's a hard one because it's connected
to a physical game. It's uh, you could tell by
(08:17):
the reactions of the players that it was just a
different deal. Like you could also tell by the sense
of urgency on the field. Anybody that's ever you know,
seeing a loved one get taken away in an ambulance
or get taken away. You know, there's like a pace
that they're at and when it when it's okay, you know,
we we just want to make sure everything's Okay, they're
looking at vitals, they're checking everything, and they get them
(08:39):
loaded up and they take them away. There was a
sense of urgency almost immediately. To Brady's point, they acted
really fast and a lot of people got together, and
just to see the reactions of the players you could tell,
for I would probably say a majority, if not all,
of them, had never seen anything to that level. And
(08:59):
to see how bo other and upset and I mean
basically disturbed would be the best way for it. Just
the looks on their face was pretty telling of just
how serious the situation was on the field. I can't
even imagine. Man, that's that's right. It's it's incredible to
think that. And I know Troy Vincent of the NFL
is come out and almost fallen on the sword for
(09:20):
Roger Goodell, but um, it's it's incredible to think that
the NFL paused for a period of time and thought
they were maybe going to go back out and and
call and play that game. There was no chance. Well
there's no chance because you had two men, one in
Zach Taylor and another other Sean McDermott, who weren't gonna
(09:40):
allow that to happen. And credit to them, you know,
forget records, forget what they've accomplished so far as head coaches.
They both walked across the field and talk to each other,
and it looked like Zach Taylor initiated. It was like,
this ain't happening, Like you go back to your locker
room and talk to your players. I'm going back to mind.
But I don't think either one of us are in
(10:02):
a position to want to go play a meaningless football
game in the grand scheme of life. And I say
that only because, like I understand, there's playoff implications and
all this stuff that we care about with football. We
talked about it every day. But now you're talking about
guys who just witnessed something that they may never witness
again in their life, where a medical staff had to
(10:22):
save someone's life on the field right there in front
of him, and he made a play that looked very
similar to all the plays that had occurred before that
in the game and maybe throughout their lives playing football
to a degree, and he just dropped. I mean, that
is a scary, scary event for all parties involved to witness,
and and I just I sit back and think to myself,
(10:45):
it took and I'm not gonna base this off of
social media, um the cess pool that that is. But
it took them so long to be able to call
it for what for what reason? I mean, you're the NFL,
who knows what was gonna occur once tomorrow Hamlin went
(11:06):
into that E M. S. When when went to the hospital.
You have no idea the status of that young man,
and that's all that mattered at that point, not playing
a game. So I was a bit disappointed by the
NFL handling it and kind of delaying the inevitable just
calling it at that point, and I realized there's a
(11:26):
lot of communication involved. They're still trying to get more information.
But you I mean, as in the ESPN by the way,
to the tremendous job covering it all parties involved, whether
it was up in the booth and Joe Buck and
Troy Lisassaulters, who was um incredibly strong handling it, and
everyone else, if everybody even studio, They did such a
good job handling something that you're just not prepared for
(11:48):
from a broadcast standpoint. But the NFL said to me,
was finally got it right, but just it looked so
so bad for about half an hour forty five minutes
period of time where you're like, like, what why is
this like still being considered postpone, Like this this game
is over, They're not playing tonight, like send the fans home.
(12:09):
People sit in a stance for what an hour or
more than an hour waiting to get a decision to
be made. It was that was ridiculous in my mind.
And look do we learned during COVID there if there's
ways that you can figure out how to reschedule a
game and get it done quick. I mean, Brady, you
called a college football game what nine am local time
in l A at the Rovers Bowl, Like there there's options,
(12:33):
there's you know, other days, there's way ways to figure
this out. The idea just to see the look on
those players faces and and for those coaches, you have
to understand, these guys aren't playing like this is this
is different. They know it's different. There's a different vibe,
a different field to it. Just the fact that there
was any sense that well we could probably get this
in you know, just just let's see how this works.
(12:54):
And then yeah, that was crazy. I didn't get the
feeling at all at any point after it happens, seeing
the looks on faces. I don't know how they played
this game. You're looking. Two thousand twelve, we had a
player take his own life and and and the life
of his baby's mama the day before game, and we
were literally I was driving in to go to the
facility and I was directed by the police to take
(13:17):
a different negagite. Which was extremely unusual, was that the
day before the game. Yeah, it was a Saturday morning
before and I called my quarterback coach, Jim's Orn and
he always said to me on the phone, was Brady,
there's been a tragedy that's taken place. He goes, I
need you to listen to me, and I need you
to go to the stadium and wait for further instructions.
(13:39):
And I saw I was like, Coach, what is going on?
He's like, He's like, I can't tell you at this time.
He goes, I need you to wait, and I need
you to go to the stadium, and I need you
to tell that to every other player two that's still
coming in, because obviously I'd get in there before most.
And so as we start started to funnel into the
stadium locker room, there are a few players who are
already aware of the situation given who his his baby
(14:02):
mama was and what had already occurred. And you know,
at that point I wasn't sure what the thing, but
once I was being told what had taken place, I
was in a state of shock. I mean, this was
a player that I lined up from every day that
season and stretched lines. He was our base inside linebackers,
starter and core special teams player. He had just had
(14:25):
a little baby. I remember sitting out during one of
the events at the stadium and the suite, looking out
on the field with him and his daughter, Zoe and
talking about life and perspective and how things change when
you have a child, and all of that gone, and
guys were like literally in a state of shocks. Some
guys were, you know, crying their eyes out, you know,
(14:48):
losing a friend, losing a teammate. And I remember thinking
of myself, like, how in the world did they expect
us to go play a game? And yet the NFL
pushed forward and it was It was probably one of
the more ruthless truths and like hardest times in my life,
like in perspective, thinking about the game of football and
and whether it matters or not because of everything that
(15:11):
transpired even the following week with you know, the um,
the funeral and everything that that you know transpired that season,
but it just it all felt so meaningless in the
grand scheme of things, but just the fact that, you know,
obviously the people in Kansas City did the best they
could to handle the situation, which no one's prepared to
handle that, but the reality was, you know that there
(15:34):
should have been more time and consideration taken for all
parties involved. And so I'm glad the NFL again came
to the right conclusion at some point last night. And
how they end up, you know, scheduling this it seems
like kind of insignificant at the moment, and I know
it matters for the greater scheme of what the NFL
you know, provides as a form of entertainment for football,
(15:56):
But again, until they understood, until they a better sense
of Damar Hamlin's health, it's gonna be hard to want
to think that that you should have either team move
forward given what you know. Tee Higgins was a part
of in that play, and Cincinnati witnessed, and even Buffalo,
I mean, some of those players stayed in Cincinnati where
the rest went back because they want to stamp you
(16:16):
with their teammate. Yeah, there was a report from Lisa
Psalters and any ESPN that said Stefon Diggs took an
uber to the hospital and was just sort of still
in a kind of a state of panic. Just wanted
some some answers wanted to know what was going on.
It's just an uneasy feeling trying to get back on
a plane and go back to Buffalo. When your teammate
is in a hospital that you saw nearly die on
(16:39):
a field feed away from you. It's that's just a crazy,
crazy situation all the way around. So again, the latest
on Damar Hamlet of the Buffalo Bills. He is in
the hospital in critical condition. Um, they're going to We'll
give you updates here on this show obviously, of course
throughout the course of the show, as soon as we
have any sense of what his latest status is, and
(17:00):
then the NFL's plan moving forward, all the other details
that come out on this as it's a very fluid situation,
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very latest on Bill safety to mar Hamlin still in
critical condition. He is at the hospital. Uh. They were
able to get his heart going again on the field
(18:27):
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(19:09):
of us were poking fun at Aaron Rodgers and the
Green Bay Packers weeks and weeks Ago. I mean I
was a believer from from the get go. I don't
know about you guys. I mean I was definitely a
believer from the get go that the green Bay Packers
were going to be making a run here. I mean
I believe I had the Packers going to the super Bowl.
So um yeah, I tried to tell everybody. I was
trying to tell you guys, when you guys are ready
to just talk side, you know, I was trying to
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be I was the one talking about Aaron Rodgers looking
toads and how I felt like it was going to
be really the best thing for this team moving forward,
and so they're really going to do this, huh like
like this is really gonna happen. Rogers called his shot,
and then of course after the game on Sunday, and
that just dismantling of the Minnesota Vikings. Uh. He spoke
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big picture about the green Bay Packers and what he
saw moving forward. Things have been happening for us the
last few weeks exactly as we need them to happen.
And that's the mindset that I've had the entire time,
that that there's some destiny involved with this and and
this just on us to go out and fulfill that.
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That's a dangerous team if they get into beat them.
They thanked them, so it looks so bad is what
they're capable of though, right, I mean, this is what
I think this team has been capable of. Now they've
got a lot of help, right defensively, special teams. Um
(20:36):
it was it Nikim Hines? What was it? The first
name that the kickoff return that they've got. My goodness,
like that dude. I think he's averaging what over ninety
kickoff yards a game since he's come on on the Packers,
Like he's been phenomenal for them and helping set up
fuel position and all that. And and just look at
a quarterback when you've got a dynamic returner. You know,
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I'll be I'll be honest, Like when they're turning for touchdowns,
Like sometimes that can make you kind of you love it,
but you kind of hate it at the same time
because you get out of a rhythm, right, Like it
could be fifteen twenty minutes before you touch the football
a game, maybe a half hour depending on stoppages and
how long drives are. But when they're just setting you up,
if like plus field position, when you get the round
(21:18):
midfield and that's where you're starting your drives. You love
that because you know a lot of times with offense
coordinators they're aggressive and they're gonna dial up shots right away,
or just the fact that you really don't need to
do that much before you get back into the red
zone or in the end zone. Is Nixon was way off?
What I was like, I thinking that he hinds almost
(21:40):
we'll clean it up in the podcast. Nobody heard it.
That's that's usually never the case. Actually, Um, I mean
I listened back and I'm like, oh, I thought we
were I thought we were taking that out. I guess
Jonas was joking. And the next week I thought we
were taking that out. Um. But but in all seriousness, like,
(22:02):
that's such a big lift to this offense that I
don't even know that anyone, I mean, Aaron Rodgers talked
about it. But but again, this is all about the
power of the mind and manifestation of making these things
come true, LaVar, right, is that how this works? First
of all, Jonas, you're just leave leave che alone, man
Lettle make his points um secdly. You know, watching the
(22:28):
way Green Bay played in that game, they look like
green Bay from last year, there were glimpses of it,
and for them to be in the position that they're
in after the start of the season that they've had
to be able to get things going the way that
(22:49):
they've had that they have this late in the season. Man,
I don't remember. I don't recall it very vividly, so
you'll you'll excuse me if I don't have it all
the way correct. But it reminds me a little bit
of when the Steelers found the way to get into
the playoffs, and I think they were like an eighth
(23:11):
seat or something to that effect. When when they got
in the year they wanted I want to say that
it was the O five year they beat Denver in
the a f C title game. Jake Plumber was the quarterback.
I want to say it was that they were a
sixth seed, because that's six That was when they beat
Indianapolis and Jerome Bettis fumbled and and their Indianapolis was
(23:35):
going to return it for a touchdown and Ben Roethlisberger
made a play which basically saved saved their super Bowl
run and got them there for a Super Bowl on
the path too. So so sixth seed is I don't
know that that had even ever happened. Maybe once or so,
not even certain that that's ever happened. And I would
assume green Bay would have to be a very very um,
(24:00):
you know, low ranked team um in terms of the
seating if they were indeed, like what what has to
happen for them to make the playoffs? By the way,
the Packers that all they needed was Cleveland to beat Washington,
which they did this password and the Irondy did that too.
And this isn't a big fun of coach Rivera because
(24:21):
you know, people were taking shots out him after the
game because he wasn't aware that they could be eliminated.
But I mean Rogers talked about it. He literally said
like for Browns fans, like go Brown's before this week
even took place. And and of course you know they
end up again everything that they said they needed to happen,
they they manifested it. So it's it's all coming full
(24:45):
So I think it all. I think it all worked
out because this is one now once again, the way
that Aaron Rodgers planted out to happen. You know, I
think that this was the script that he wanted to
play out. I think he wanted people to understand the
level and the magnitude of of gravity to greatness that
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that Aaron Rodgers has. And and right now, you know,
he's showing everyone. And you know, that's just how I
see it. Man. You know, if the Aaron Rodgers movie
is the Aaron Rodgers story, I think it'll be better
than Kurt Warners. You know, I watch what wouldn't be.
He's gonna make his own Yeah, I mean, but it's
(25:31):
gonna come out on on Prime videos after after the season,
you know. But it's not like Rodgers is playing that great.
I mean, you know, you just sound such a bearss fan. No,
I'm not listen that. I don't care. What do I care?
Move on, and they're going to the playoffs. He's probably
gonna go on a Super Bowl run. It's it is
what it is to be. The Bears aren't even bol
(25:53):
eligible this year, so it doesn't even matter. Okay, so
the Green Bay Packers are. You know, they've been a
better team for twenty five years. So can we go
back to the whole manifestation thing? Like so I understand,
like I believe in the power of belief, the mind,
all that stuff too, But just because you say it
(26:14):
and trying to manifest it. What about if other people
are trying to do the exact opposite and saying it
manifesting it against you. Like Aaron Rofters is higher his manifesting, Yes,
and it took him licking the toad, as Jonas would say, Um,
you know, he's he's experienced the level of mental enlightenment
(26:35):
that has led to him being able to manifest um
what he wants. That's that's why I told everybody to
R E L A X, you know, and and went
from there. I mean, it's just this is just Aaron
Rodgers esque, that's all I'll say. You're right cute, Like,
who's to say that? Well, you said it's going to
happen this way, so that's how it's gonna happen. I mean,
(26:58):
Tom Brady, he couldn't come out and manifest something. It
seems well, it does seem like Tom Brady is manifesting.
I mean, some way, somehow. They're one of the worst,
really really good teams in the league right now. I
don't I don't get it. I don't get it. But
they're the chaps. They're going into the playoffs. They've they've
(27:19):
clenched so I mean, for as poorly as they've seemed
to have played, they don't have very many losses. It's
kind of weird. But you know what, Tom Brady has
a different level of manifestation um that you know, other people,
you know, they just don't possess it, you know. And
I am being totally sarcastic to everyone out there. And
(27:41):
if you hear a little bit of a twins or
whatever in my voice, it's because I was screaming in
my head off for for four quarters yesterday. And you know,
you don't realize how loud you're screaming, by the way,
and in a stadium that's really loud, until the noise
of the stadium subsides, and then you allies that to
hear in order to hear yourself and to feel like
(28:04):
the yelling that you're doing to the players during the game,
how obnoxiously loud you are. Um, you don't realize that
until your vocal cords are angry with you by by
the end of the game, queaking into it. I mean,
we ask you, how was it goodwin? We are dominant
way bailed bailed out the crumby Big ten. For a while,
(28:25):
we didn't have a good showing this year. Yeah, it's
not been good. Penn State represented, man, yeah they did.
I think a lot of people were h shocked that
it went away, that it went Actually no, I had
Penn Stanley by the way. I was shocked. The Penn
State wasn't favored. Initially they were the underdog, and then
as leading up to the game that that line moved.
(28:47):
But I love the over which I believe Hit loved
the Penn State in that one. But let me ask
you this. I saw some pictures from the stadium. You
toss seem to travel well like they had were you
were you? Yeah? Were you yelling? Because you guys were
out numbered. It looked like it was a sea of red.
You know, it was crazy. By the time we got
to the fourth quarter, you could we we overpowered. We
(29:12):
we probably represented. It looked as though we represented twenty
five percent of the stadium. And yeah they represented. They
that it sounded like they were fifty. You know, we
were overtaking their their fan bades like it was. It
was pretty cool. There were no utah utes up in there.
(29:38):
I mean at half you guys, because it was tight.
It was to tighter half. Yeah, fourteen fourteen. It had
to have been fun like that was a good game
until it was very I mean it was it was
what you thought it was going to be. Um they
were going to Yeah, well he was. He was the
difference maker in the game. And unfortunately he was the
difference maker because he ke stepping out of out of
(30:01):
the truck and going into the Serengetti. Man. And then
when you be running into Serengetti and there's a whole
bunch of lions out there running in the Serengetti and
you catch them, you know you're gonna catch your body.
I mean, you're just gonna catch your body. You gotta
stay yeah, man, But you know we're saying, you know,
we say North Hills, LaVar, you know we say at
(30:21):
North Hills, what's that? You ain't ready for the getty
man and Serengetti? And I guess basic right now, I
don't know Serengetti. Uh. It is two pros and the
Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way,
congratulations to Sean Clifford. Final game Penn State at age
(30:45):
forty two. So congratulations to oh guy. Come on, he
played well, man, he played great. And that was this
that was his lass least one. Yeah, LaVar, do you
think he's gonna he's gonna try to go pro or
you think he's I mean, I'm sure he wants to
play play at the next level. But I'm sure he's
(31:06):
you know, the one thing about him being so older,
so much older, you know, his level of maturity is there.
You know, he created his business um limitless, and he's
got he's got plenty of athletes that he's already been
representing and getting them an I L deal. So I mean,
I'm I'm I'm blown away by his business acumen and
(31:29):
just his willingness to take a chance on on creating
a startup business while in school while playing. But who
better to do it than someone who understands exactly how
school works, um, understands the schedule of how football works,
and is able to balance out all of those things.
And there may be a tab bit of sarcasm and
(31:51):
that as well, Um yeah, yeah, yeah, a little sarcasm there,
but but at the ain't token you know what, there
is some genuineness and that as well. Sean Clifford is
a very impressive, impressive young man. But going back to it,
did you do you think he'll he will try to
go pro. And there's a kid at Notre Dame who
(32:12):
had a great Bowl game and probably could have had
a shot to try to go that route, and he
just he've already announced like that said, I'm done playing football.
I've got a job lined up come here in a
couple of days. I wouldn't be surprised if he did that. Really,
I wouldn't be surprised if he did that, but I
would guess that he would want to play it out
and see if there is a chance for him to
(32:34):
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Cup of Joe here on FS are coming up next.
We're going to have a conversation about something that took
place in the world of sports last night that didn't
get a lot of coverage. It probably should have. Near history,
It's been a long time since everybody got this close
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Good thing. The guys are here to bring you in
case you missed and for that we turn it over
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case you missed this, that's right, LaVar, In case you
missed this. Donovan Mitchell scoring a franchise record seventy one
points for the Calves last night, helping them beat the
(34:41):
Bulls three in overtime, the most points scored by any
NBA player since Kobe did it against Toronto in two
thousand and six. How about that, a Brady? How about
your Cleveland Calves, Donovan? They are fun to watch. That
team has all of a sudden become a legit contender
in the East in my opinion, But I'm surprised that
(35:02):
the franchise record. I would have thought Lebron has all those.
But do you think this will make Lebron want to
go back to Cleveland to try and set the franchise
record third time. Yeah, you know, like he's got to
make sure. I don't know, but you know, I mean
we did win the championship, So if you more interesting,
like if if the Calves won without him, would they
want to invite him back at that point? Even how
(35:23):
the Lakers have kind of I'm taking out to Allens
to Clevelane. Yeah, back to the land um, But I mean,
what was it too. He's one of the only players
in NBA history too, I think be a part of
either scoring or assisting on like ninety nine points. I
saw that stats somewhere too. I mean, he's like the
(35:45):
second player in NBA history. Pretty ridiculous when you think
about that. Yeah, Like it's like it's rare that it's
been like David Robinson scored seventy one back in and
other than that in the Kobe Bryant, Like this is
the third time somebody scored seventy plus since like the sixties.
So pretty incredible for Donovan Mitchell there. And it's a
(36:07):
it's almost like if you ever guys playing a pickup
game where everyone like it just expects you to be
the guy that keeps like waiting for you to shoot it.
You've like no one's You're like all right, Like I've
gotta be Donvin Mitchell. I'm gonna have to drop seventy
one of these cook up games A story of my life.
People looking at me like, hey man, can you get
us a bucket? I guess I mean, I'll do it again.
You know, I'd like to get in a sister too,
(36:28):
but it wasn't allowed. But again, dang, what else guys?
In case you missed at, the NFL has officially revealed
the final Sunday night game of the season, that being
the Packers versus the Lions. It could be a winner
in uh scenario for both teams. That is, if Seattle
suffers a loss earlier in the day to the Rams.
(36:50):
Now Seattle does beat the beat the Rams, the Lions
will be eliminated and the Packers or winner in I mean,
if the Lions get eliminated, you know Dan can what
was going to go for it all? He's going to
try and ruin somebody's season or do do something. I
just I feel like stories of this season, I'll tell
(37:10):
you that. I feel like, couldn't they have played made
these two games at the same time, Like there wasn't
another option for a Sunday night football game to where
you could kind of go back and forth, because you know,
the lines would haven't even to play for I think
it kind of loses its touch. Don't just said it right,
You just said it the right way. If they listen,
Dan Campbell is going to motivate those guys to spoil
(37:33):
the Packers season case close, Yeah, I mean that's that's
a ton of motivation, and the Packers are trying to
to live up to the expectation of they turned their
season around and we're able to make it into the playoffs.
Like that is a tremendously large game. No matter what
happens in the game for prior now, it does make
(37:54):
it pretty cool if if when you're in like that,
I think that definitely has has a different type of
cash at to it. But but spoiling the season with
an interdivisional opponent, I think that's enough motivation. How do
we feel about Lions plus four and a half in
Green Bay? I think it's it's one of those games
(38:19):
where the Packers are just at a different point, sorry
as good as a season as it's been, and that's
why we will have their moments you know, what would
you go to? And one this week with your picks
three and oh come on, man, Knox locks folks. He's
still way below five on it for the season. Two
(38:39):
games below. You were ten games below. You keep lying
to people you were ten games below. Coming in the weekend.
It's a new audience, so they don't know what lie
until last time. And I'll make up some next hour
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