December 21, 2021 • 39 mins
Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington recap the double-header on MNF including Browns going from first to last in the AFC North after a loss to the Raiders. The Vikings move to the last seed in the NFC playoffs with a win over the pathetic Bears. Plus, conspiracies about a fixed fight between Jake Paul and Tyron Woodley on In Case You Missed It.
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knocks, and coming up on
the show, we're gonna look back at not only one
but two Monday night games. Raiders Browns was a classic,
Vikings Bears not so much, but we did have a
winner and a tie ball game in the prop bet
Monster for Week fifteen, We're also gonna look ahead into
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two more games coming up on a Tuesday. We've got
one in l A, We've got another in Philly, and
we've got some quarterback concerns and questions for both. We're
also going to take a theory from Bill Belichick and
his behavior at a postgame press conference and we're gonna
dismiss it. We're gonna have a debate about a Christmas
story and National Lampoon's Christmas vacation, and we're gonna have
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the news with Brady Quinn. All of it is yours.
Coming up next here, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe,
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some damn fun on a Tuesday. Yeah, it's clearly the
best out of yours. I just yeah. I like how
they try to juice jon us up every morning. I
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don't need juice natural. There was some real natural juicing
going on more than one way. I'll tell you a
very important question that was being asked and thrown around
the studio. Here was a great topic. I wish we
could share it with definitely Joe. This is like LaVar,
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please please do not say it. Please. I was hoping
one of you two could find like an artsy way
of bringing it up without actually saying it. Okay, okay,
here we go. Here's an artistical way of saying it.
Who was the first person when you were growing up,
caught your eye in that way when you were watching
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HBO or Cinemax or regular television. Movie could have been
could have been the first movie. Yeah, I don't even
know the name of it, but I remember the place
and well, yeah, I remember a lot of details from that. Yeah,
all right, it was based against it was I remember,
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and I remember where I was. I just remember we
were over about my buddies playing. So there was a
Cinemax on late night. I was like, oh that was
we took a tab bit of a different turn. You
actually didn't know their names. They were that famous. They
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were just they were team almost. I think they call
it Skinner Max. Yeah, they definitely did. It's been so
much for arts, artistic and now now that was obviously
growing up in Ohio and you're growing up in Ohio.
You mixed you know, those movies in with some Browns football.
I gotta tell you, man, if I'm a Breast fan,
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listen as as smooth as it gets. If I'm if
I'm a Browns fan, you go back to Cinemax, Q.
Aren't you proud of how that team played last night?
Are you proud of how that team played last night?
Growing up a Browns fan, Brady Quick, that was a
damn fun game, man, it was a fun game. I
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loved how Miles Garrett, who was fighting through an injury,
you know, did his best to try to have it,
you know, make an impact the way he was playing
in the end. Tag McKinley looks like he may be
out for the rest of the year with the torn achilles.
But that being said, I mean even the way they
ran the football on the end with Nick Chubb just
getting some tough yards, I was, I was, I was impressed.
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But at the same time, it went from being first
in the anf C North literally on a field goal,
to being dead last now, and it's got to be
frustrating for Baker and Kevin Stefan's gonna sit back and
watch how that game took place, how it transpired, and
the NFL did everything they could to help the Browns
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and give them a shot, and in the end, it
only ended up being John Johnson who end up coming
off that COVID list, so they got their work cut
out for him. The good thing is, well, we got
three games left I think for each team now, and
they've got a couple of divisional games that should could
help them, couldn't help them trying to climb back into
this thing. That was fun, man. I I gotta tell
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you watching that game and then you've see him where
we can get into the whole double Monday night football
conversation later on, which which I'm a huge fan of it,
have been for a long time. But just watching that
game and I said, all, this is a bad football game,
and these are backups, and they're under man etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
I don't care, man, that was a fun game. That
was a lot of fun to watch, just seeing Nick
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Mollins play the way that he played with with no
time to get ready for that game, and it had
the Raiders lost that game, and and say, Carlson misses
that kick, that's got to be one of the worst
losses we've seen in a long time. In the end,
prob I mean cars interception first and ten. I mean
it would be one thing if it was fourth down
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and it's more of a desperation play, but on first
intend when you're driving like that, it was it was
I mean, look, I know Kurr Warner want to say
I was a good decision. You got the safety to
put up. Yeah, it could have been that good of
a decision. The corner was still over the top and
end up picking it off like it was just completely
unnecessary for that point in time in the game. Again
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and fourth down and they feel like they needed to
take a shot and need to do something that makes
sense not at that point. So uh, kudos to Derek
Carr being able to get the football back, drive his
team down to give Carlson a chance. And by way,
what about the brass balls on Carlson? He hits the
first field goal that they called the time out and
try to ice him, and then he still puts it
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three even better the second time that takes, especially on
a road stadium where there's a little bit of wind
and all that they're off the lake, and it took
a lot of balls from him to be able to
do that. You know, a f C matchup this late
in the season playoff implications. Like you said, the Browns,
I thought this was more of Uh. I've been trying
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to figure out which one has been more of a
must win for which team. Uh. It probably was more
so for the Raiders than it was for the Hounds.
But then again, like you said, Brady, they go from
being first to lass off of that loss. I just
thought that there were so much connected to this game
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that watching the way that it played out, I mean,
you gotta believe that that was a playoff caliber game
because they're indeed fighting for, you know, their playoff birth.
So you know, you look at it and and you say,
these are two teams that have gone through a whole lot.
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You know, they it's two turbulent teams to two turbulent organizations,
one for injuries, the other for other things, you know,
more off field based and related. But you know, to
watch it play out the way that it did, You're
You're looking at the Raiders and it's like, Okay, are
the Raiders going to jack it up? Are they gonna
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be able to pull it out? Um? Are the Browns
going to jack it up? Are they going to be
able to pull it out? And I think that because
the storylines were so so similar during the course of
the game, I think that that's what made it so
so impact for so so entertaining to watch. You know,
it's great about football. You could have a grimy, sloppy
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game like that and it's still a good game. You
have a sloppy game in the NBA, it's unwatchable. I
I I don't care how many more turnovers there would
have been in that game. That was entertaining as hell
last night. I I no complaints whatsoever with that and
the performance of by their team. I'll put it this
way too. You could have backups play like we saw
last night and it's entertaining if people will still watch.
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If if Lebron and some of the other stars set
out for the Lakers, I'm not watching it down. But
that league is so dependent upon their stars, and by
the way, maybe that's one of the reasons why those
guys have so much control and can push the NBA
owners around a little bit. Where in the NFL, the
owners know exactly what they have. They have a product
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that sustains I don't care if it's a Hall of
Famer whatever. Like people try to act like, you know,
when when guys got paid, man is gonna retire people,
all the viewerships gonna go down. No, it's not. It's
never gone down. It doesn't matter who retired, it's already retired,
and in fact it's going up. That happened is a
good point because if if a star sits out in
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the NBA fans bitch and moan, and they do multiple
segments on other networks talking about all, by God, should
fans be given a refund. It's not fair to the
fans rest days. I mean all the all the harder
and money that was paid for tickets. Bro, Nobody was
bitching that the Browns were missing so many starters that
that stadium was rocking last night. They were still loud,
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They still showed up and still made noise and supported
their teams. So that is a good point. That's a
difference between they got to keep the basketball. They play
so many more games. So it's like you gotta pick
and choose once you get down to the nitty gritty
of the season. If guys are still doing low management
when games matter towards your your playoff birth and your bid,
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that's you know, I think that that's when it's really matters.
But that's the amazing nous of football is we have
the fewest games, you know, we when you look at
what we bring to the table, our storylines play out
so amazingly. The storytelling ability of of the production and
the people surrounding the game of football. You can't draw
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up scripts any better than what this reality TV show
provides on on a game basis, a daily basis, a
weekly basis. It's just it's unmatchable by any other other
reality television show that's out there. I mean, name the
longer running reality show that gives the people what they're
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looking for. Even if you're not an avid sports fan,
it's still if you really look at what football provides
for you, it still provides storylines that are worth worth
investing your time in to pay attention to. So, I mean,
the NFL is dope and last night and I thought
it was it was really cool to have you know,
that take place, um and then we get to do
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it again tonight. You know, it's almost like it's like
Ken Ken tonight, you know, live up to what what
the games look like yesterday, at least the first game.
I don't want to name call here on the air,
That's the last thing I want to do. But but no,
But to your point, LaVar, if you don't like football,
you're such a loser, like just I mean, what a loser?
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How how could you not sit back and be entertained
by what you saw last night? Like that? You think
about all the people that on a Sunday are doing
laundry or or at the grocery store, just not a
care in the world, not realizing that there's multiple games
on television they could be enjoying. Instead they're shopping for
juji fruits and and and snack goods. I'm just like,
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I just I just think about that, like you want.
You drive around sometimes you see it's like there's somebody
on this road that doesn't like football. Yeah, just somebody
on this road doesn't like football, doesn't care that. People
that I think very highly of that now don't really
subscriut right to the football thing. And I keep away
from me. Yeah I do. I live with one. In fact,
I see what you're saying. Yeah, I live and I've
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got one of those two could care less like really, no, no,
for real like it like it's it's a stressful time
in our lives when football seasons here. Yeah, it's interesting.
But it creates a communal again, this is my pitch.
It creates a communal environment. It's it's no different than
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going to the movie theater and watching a movie. If
you can, if you can make your point well enough,
you can position it where it becomes a communal opportunity,
whether it's you know, the making of the food, or
inviting friends over and then there's a friend that that's
that's willing to you know, entertain you while you entertain
them while everybody else is watching the games, or yeah,
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at the bar. You know, you can find other other
opportunities of of conversation, but football can ultimately be a
great ice breaker for for new new friendships and different things.
I had plenty of ice breaking moments using football on
people before marriage. Of course, Um that that I was
able to to actually leverage the fact that, uh, they
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did not enjoy football, and it led to an amazing conversation.
It actually leads to a better conversation if they don't
like football. It's all you young bucks out there that
may find yourself in a sports restaurant, um, sipping on
a lemonade of some sort of some kind of beverage.
You know. Yeah, yeah, that's the clarification there. Just make
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sure you use that that ice breaking ability and say
that you know what I get why you don't like football? Yeah,
I understand it. Here are some really interesting points about
football that you may like. They wear type hands, um,
I don't know, they run really fast. They I'm a
three time Pro bowler. I mean I may have played
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in a couple of Pro Bowls, you know, I may
play in the National Football League, you know, one day,
you know, But for now, I play here, actually, at
this fine school that we're attending and hanging out at.
You know that broach that things get a little bit
more interesting for you? Does football seem a tad bit
more interesting? You know? I'm Brady Quinn? Yeah, what do
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you mean, your Brady? What exactly happen? Can you imagine
if you did all that and your punch line is
I'm Brady Quinn and you look like Brady Quinn. I mean,
that's gotta be good. Yeah, good quarterback Brady Quinn, the
quarterback from your fine school here. How's the comfort level, Brady?
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Right about that? How you feel? I just I always
always hate this. I wish we could get to the
conversation the fact that we do have football tonight. We
do have football on prime time tonight. I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna get on my soupbox and star are
my you know, start my preaching for why I feel
like we should have football every night in prime time
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during football season. But I'll save that for for another second.
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You're on FSR. Yeah, what's wrong with you? He's Grady Quinn. Yeah,
I love this song. Yeah, Oh that's the way. Why
does he do that? I don't know. It's so weird, man,
I don't know why he does that. Why can't we
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just talk football? That's that Nick? Not Nick Cage. Who's
the one, Nick Nolty. I don't know, never Nicholas Cannon.
Maybe Nick Cannon. I don't think he makes those. Oh yeah,
that's movie where he was making that, Like, like, you know,
I think it's Nicolas Cage. It's it's actually usual what
Jonas does to this song, not whatever reason he didn't. Yeah,
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I don't. I don't know what he's talking about. I mean,
I'm just trying to do a professional sports show here,
you know what. You know. I hate to get on
my soapbox, but I would really like to just kind
of talk about the fact that, you know, there was
another game on last night, and there's a few more
on tonight. You know, Washington, you know they're playing tonight.
They're they're in the hunt. You know, I think they're
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in the hunt. I mean they're not really they're trying. Yeah. Yeah, well,
I mean, you know, before we get to uh, some
teams that are actually decent um Oh my god, h
Brady Chicago Bears are are an absolute Are you even
able to be excited about winning against the Bears. That's like,
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is it like borderline kind of the same thing to
beat the Bears that it is to beat you should
be in prime time. That those are his only two wins.
On Monday night, foot player have come against the Bears,
and he was he was flinging the ball around the
field last night. Imagine how excited Kirk Cousins gets when
he sees that he has the Bears on a primetime game,
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not like a real team. They said, Man, all I
gotta do is for under a hundred yards and we're
gonna win. And it's not even gonna be close. And
it's supposed to be considered to be a divisional rival.
What the defense and their offense just is. But it
just sucks because when your team is bad, nobody cares
if your defense is good or they don't. They don't care.
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If you have a great punt returner or kickoff return
or a great receiver, nobody cares because all you do
is lose. And the good thing is that the good
thing is at least they have at least they have
their top their top five pick in the draft. So
that's a good thing for the Bears. I mean, they
are going to have all that try. They traded that
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one away too, so they don't have a first round
pick this year. Okay, just was curious, just wondering how
how things are going in Chicago this year. Unbelievable, what
a terrible, terrible team. But the Minnesota Vikings stay alive.
They get it done. Kirk Cousins surros froun or a
hundred yards and uh and the and the Vikings win
the game. Justin Jefferson not much of a factor, although
he did have a touchdown that um and uh and
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and so yeah, I don't know how you walk away
from that game if your Vikings fan and go all right, alright, guys,
uh this this feels great. Let's go ahead and let's
celebrate this thing. Even though some people got you know,
robbed on the final score, maybe you had a betting
interest in it. With the Bears plus seven, they didn't
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kick the extra point after they scored the final touchdown,
which to me is a terrible decision. It's an untimed down.
It should happen, but unfortunately didn't. Sill a lot of people.
Hold on for a second, which level is it? Is it?
Both levels? Where college at NFL? Where after they scored
at the final as the time expires, they don't have to.
I think it's both, but I don't understand why, like like,
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I mean, it's it's already kind of a non competitive play,
but given that it's not gonna play any impact whatsoever
on the outcome of the game, I get your point, Well,
what do you wanted to go for two the bed cover? No? Yes,
some sort of an extra point opportunity, kicked the extra point. Look,
we we can try and dismiss the idea. Serious questions,
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serious question. Does gambling get to a point where a
coach makes a decision like that? No? I think the league, though,
should make you And we've talked about it before, like
you got to realize gamblings here and it's not going anywhere,
and it's a big part of the popularity explosion in
the game. I mean, doesn't that make you feel a
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little dirty if you do know a coach is doing
that to go for I don't know, man, what was
it Mark Stoops this year in Kentucky versus Yeah? It
was no, man, No, it was God, it was it
was it was Georgia, wasn't it. I think it was
against Georgia. I think Georgia, where it was like very
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apparent what he was doing and why he was doing.
Let mean, come on, you know he's got you know,
you know some people with you know, some interest in Ohio.
I just say, there are some people that were interested
in But don't you think though, if if you're the
NFL and you realize that gambling has as much of
an impact in the game that if you know what's
going on in every point matters, don't leave any points
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on the table ball, like if you literally rule, and
then that way you keep people glued to the TV
through that final play even though the game is decided.
But you want to know if you made your money?
Of course, come on, mankind, yeah, you kind of like
it a lot. Actually, this is what needs to happen. Um,
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Can I ask a question on a separate on a
different level or in a different area than than gambling,
but maybe it is relatable to gambling? Though? Is it
is it good to be a team that actually is
in the playoff hunt but you know they really don't
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have a chance at all to win in the playoffs? No,
that's not fun for anybody? Or should or should that
take that's borderline? Good enough? To make it to the playoffs.
That may make it to the playoffs. Is it better
if they missed the playoffs? That's a great question because
the first game Browns, Browns and Raiders have a set
we ask you that question, like Raiders, w Do the
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Raiders really have a shot at the playoffs? No? I
don't think so. But what if they made it in
they don't have a shot to do anything right? I'm sorry,
but but but doesn't doesn't Minnesota give you that feel too? Though?
Like Minnesota made me. I felt when I was watching
them last night. Minnesota made me feel like, man, is
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it is it better if they missed the playoffs altogether?
Or if they go to the playoffs? You you kind
of know whoever it is that they play, they're probably
going to lose to them. Well, I mean, what's the
difference in them making the playoffs and not making the playoffs?
As far as draft order goes a couple of spots,
So it's really like, you're not I don't know that
that there's that much of a difference. The only the
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only reason I think Minnesota would need to make the
playoffs is because I think if they missed the playoffs,
Mike Zimmer could be in like I think I think
Mike Zimmer could be in trouble just based on on
how that team looks. And I don't think Kirk Cousins
is locked up for another couple of years, right, Brady.
I don't think they get out of the deal unless
they've got to pay a significant amount from from my
understanding if I remember that correctly, Because there was some
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conversation about well, what's Kirk cousins future. Like, Look, he
hasn't played bad. It's not like I mean last night
was it was a bad look, But you know, Kirk
Cousins had a pretty good year um and and Adam
Feeland wasn't out there. I just think he's got one
more year left then he hits free agency, so technically
they could move on from him. But the problem is
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that he's got such a huge dead cap hit that's
carried over that they would have to trade it but
have someone who can absorb it. But that's probably not
gonna happen. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't.
I mean, you know, I'm telling you Kirk Cousins has
played out between the franchise tag and just the business
of football, and how he's kind about to go shoo
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against contracts, probably better than almost every quarterback that's ever
played in the NFL. I'll be serious when I say
that he was the only one who had he balls
to play out his rookie deal through to franchise tags
and then signed the first fully guaranteed deal for a
three year deal. I mean he's the first player to
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do that. Then after that he signs these short term extensions.
And he's played well enough, which is the biggest key,
and stayed healthy that's allowed him then too, after a
year or two into that deal, continually like twist the
screws to the team and say, look, I've got a
year left on this thing. You know my history, Like
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I'll press this thing to free agency and go somewhere else.
And so they have to extend him, and they have
to convert some of that money, some of his salary
that's coming in next year. He's his salary will be
thirty five million. So because of that and not to
take a significant portion of the cap, they'll have to
extend him again for another year just to spread out
and convert some of it into a bonus. And so
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we gets some of that cash right now. Like I'm
telling you, he has handled it as good, if not
better than any other quarterback in the NFL. With this,
it's amazing. You want to be onna have a fun
little game show, impromptu game show here, alright, So we
got game show music ready. We have a live studio
band that's here with us. They are masked up and
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socially distance here. We have sanitized all the instruments as
they get ready to pipe right now. Yes, absolutely absolutely
we are. They have had all fourteen booster shots to
go there with their three maderna and across uh the
other night, so the live studio band, I mean, it
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was loud, alright. So so let's let's get into it here.
Kirk Cousins career earnings. All right, So this is according
to SPO track I believe is the pronunciation of the
website Kirk Cousins career earnings. Brady Quinn, would you like
to take a stab at this here? He made over
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a hundred I know that because that three year deal
was worth what like eighty seven or whatever it was.
I don't know. You can't, I can't ask after tax
I'm just going it's confused, but I'm gonna say, like
over a hundred and fifty million. I think he's made
over a hundred and fifty million. All right, Lamar Arrington,
you want to take a spin at this? It's probably
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in and around. They're probably give him like one one
one tin, okay, so one hundred and fifty five zero, Yeah,
so you're gonna go one fifteen? All right? Lee de Lap,
you want to take a guess at this? Lee, you
want to guess kirk cousins career salary. I was gonna
say one forty, okay, so one forty for Lee. Roberto,
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you want to take a spin at this here? One
forty one? All right? Who that's a very true that
that's not that's not that good because I don't think
he's going on. I want with lead, like, yeah, I
got this one more. Brady could be over there. Edmund Garcia,
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you want to take as at this? I'm gonna pull
the Roberto and that's the drumroll. Please, here we go
a little over one hundred and sixty one million dollars
for kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins getting paid absolutely paid by
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the Vikings and the Washington football team. Uh and all
this for two wins on Monday Night football against the
Crumby Bears. How about that hundred and sixty million dollars.
He's gonna get two more rights to the Apple, isn't he. Yeah,
he'll at least get one. I don't know if he'll
get too, depending on how long of a deal get
and that bites like again, he'll sign an extension where
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he gets a portion of that given to him in
a form of a bonus, and it will extend him
out another year. Um. But it's crazy to me that,
Like when I hear those numbers, I immediately cut it
in half because of Uncle Sam, Like, okay, so he's
really made a hundreds and then depending on what he's
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spending all that. Like that's that's how I think. That's
the terrible part about Like when you see these contracts,
is you just cut in half right away? Yeah, it's
but you know, listen, I think a lot of people
out there would take that eighty million. I mean think
I think that it's such that you gotta make one
hundred and sixty million to make eighty to eight just
you know, I don't know, it's just call me crazy,
(28:38):
you know, I've seen that happen though, you know, in
real time. So yeah, you see that. It's kind of
just want to say you were you were in d C.
So that's more like with local it's more like six
of your paycheck goes to Uncle Sam. Hey bro and
I lived in Virginia. So you worked in Maryland, you
(28:59):
had to hey d C the district, and you had
to pay Virginia because you you you practiced in Virginia.
You did business in Washington, d C. And you play
games in Maryland and they had personal property taxes in Virginia.
It's crazy, man. And then you get guys that get,
(29:19):
you know, contracts similar to yours, and they live in
a place like Pittsburgh and they the taxes are low,
the cost of living is you know, it's just kind
of it just makes you it's like kind of like
would choose your poison? Like do you want to go
to a small market like Pittsburgh, Hey, you know the best,
(29:41):
you know, the best place to go? A f C
South Bay. You get drafted to that, a f C
South You've got three teams with no state income tax
and then you're playing in one of the third almost
went to Jacksonville because of that as a free agent
between Green Bay, New York Giants and Jacksonville. I almost
(30:01):
chose Jacksonville just because of the tax implications in the breaks.
People don't realize how big of a deal that is
in the off season for players. I mean it's a
significant portion of the negotiation. Yeah, what are the taxes
in London when they eventually moved there. How is that
going to impact it? Because they better be paying more
money because our dollar isn't as strong as there, or
(30:21):
they've got to increase their salary cap to then reflect
that so they have more space in which to spend. Uh,
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I'm sure hoping that we continue on with what started.
I'll tell you. Yeah, maybe Brady, I'll get an invite. Maybe,
you know, Brady is a part of the alumni, you
know what I mean, Like it's all pros on that show.
It would have to be called all pros and no.
Joe's good. Yeah, that's good. That's so cold, that cold.
(33:15):
You couldn't be invited because you just wouldn't be able
to roll with us. All right, very good guy, I
take care of you. Joe. He's got loose lips over there,
Yeah he does have a little like he might, you know,
really really tell ye you'll never think you'll never you'll
never think to remember anything that we went through. But
let me tell you what happened. Yeah, I got your
(33:37):
never mind say, why are you messing with your microphone?
Sounded weird. I didn't want to derail the bowling segment
here for you guys, you know, picking on somebody, I
don't want to derail. Just wanting to make sure that
I mean, everybody got there. Let everybody out there got
an opportunity to hear you know, Jone, just get you know,
(33:57):
bullies attacks, attack violently here on the air. Cancel culture
comes for bullies, So you gotta be careful when you
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maybe by design. The Jonas Not Show moves to two
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(34:18):
up on Game. Still can't get that invite though, all right,
it is time for something we do on the show
called this. Sometimes you can't get to everything in the
world of sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are
here to bring you in case you missed it. And
for that we turn it over to lead to lap
our executive producer to find out what the hell is
(34:39):
going on Lee you guys, In case you missed it.
Over the weekend, YouTuber turned boxer Jake Paul kode Tyron
Woodley and uh, you know, lady on Bill had something
to say. He went to Twitter and said, uh, he's
tired of this and Jake Paul should stop fighting small
dudes who can't box, to which you responded, Hey, Tyron
would drop you faster than the Ravens, not needing all
(35:01):
that defense himself. Tyron came back at Levy on Bell saying, Hey,
a person curates enough to go into battle and use
that to try to throw your name in there for
a bag without making that walk. That's what we call
cloud chasing. Surprising from you, lady on No, Woodley has
to set his mouth. He's not allowed to talk any trash. Well,
(35:25):
he ya, Tyrone Woodley smoke lady on Bell like he would,
he would put him to sleep. I don't know about that.
I mean, come on, man, I don't know about that
five time UFC champion, Come on, by time USC champion
that got put to sleep like r I p sleep
(35:45):
can I ask this question because this was going around,
Thank you, Rot, there was going around. Why are you
so upset by this? I mean that it's just like
you guys you watch the tape. Yes, I watched the fight.
I watched the fight. Then you you would have known
that it was a little bit uh that Jake Paul
twice not once twice gave a little signal with this
(36:07):
wrist in which seemed a little bit awkward, and all
of a sudden, Tyron Woodley's hands dropped. He literally had
them up and as soon as they stepped in, he
dropped him to leave himself open to get knocked out. Okay,
you really think that Tyron Woodley wanted to get knocked
out cold? Yes? Now, first of all, there's face like
(36:32):
that for no no chest. But there's guys that, yeah,
I say, you might not, but there's guys that have.
I ain't going out here, goes Jonas. No, I'm just saying.
Leo Santa Cruz is a guy who fights at the
lower weights. He has a twitch. He has a little
bit of a hitch in his style to where he's
constantly turning his wrist like that when he throws. Yeah,
(36:54):
you know who doesn't watch, Go watch Brady. I want
to watch fight. I watched it happen. I'm saying, Walls,
he doesn't have that twitch. It was, it was fixed.
I'm saying that moment and how it ended it might
have been. If you don't think that boxing doesn't have
a history of this. Of course, you don't think that
the fact that a guy who they're having a second
(37:16):
fight that could have been part of the agreement for
a guy who believes a conspiracy theories. It's crazy to
me that you're not willing to look at that tape
and not go all right, there might be more to
the folks. Stick around. Later on, Brady's gonna break down
a book Bigfoot footage, and he's gonna tell you why
Bigfoot's real and UFOs are landing on Earth as we
(37:38):
just hits directly home to Jonas because he claims to
be the biggest boxing fans live scores it on Twitter,
and he's upset that there might be some fixing. There's
no I'm not upset by it. There. I watched the
I watched the He sounds irritated by it and the reality.
I haven't seen a knockout like this in a long
(37:59):
time where looked like it was clean. It was a
clean knockout. Not only was it clean, it seemed like
it was timed up clean it. It was all the
way there, I mean, and he went all the way
to sleep, like all the way bit he buy you
see the way his feet were when he hit the ground.
Oh yeah, God, like you're he was probably not even
(38:19):
that flexible to be able to do that. He was
in that moment flatterth theories with Brady Quain coming up
about twenty minutes from now, it's it's sad that you're
you of all people who are the conspiracy theory guy,
aren't willing to say that other tell you something maybe
that that that I'm not that I'm not buying into this,
not buy into all the conspiracy theories, gonna think it's
(38:40):
fun conversation this is and this is a fun conversation
because it would real too, you know, according to Brady,
I mean, who knows, who knows what? This guy unbelievable.
But let me ask you this, why is he not
fought at actual box to them, because that's part of
the plan. He knows what he's plan that he got
up record. What do you do you set up that
(39:03):
second fight to ensure that you win. Keep going up
that record. They're getting huge paid. Yes, do you know
why the second fight happened? Because No, the guy that
originally had signed on to fight Tommy Fury got injured,
so Tyron Woodley was a replacement. This wasn't And they
were always they were always trying to make another fight
or Tyson Woodley was always trying to make another fight work.
(39:24):
I know this set up or not he got knocked up.
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some damn fun on a Tuesday. Yeah, it's clearly the
best out of yours. I just yeah. I like how
they try to juice jon us up every morning. I
(01:47):
don't need juice natural. There was some real natural juicing
going on more than one way. I'll tell you a
very important question that was being asked and thrown around
the studio. Here was a great topic. I wish we
could share it with definitely Joe. This is like LaVar,
(02:08):
please please do not say it. Please. I was hoping
one of you two could find like an artsy way
of bringing it up without actually saying it. Okay, okay,
here we go. Here's an artistical way of saying it.
Who was the first person when you were growing up,
caught your eye in that way when you were watching
(02:29):
HBO or Cinemax or regular television. Movie could have been
could have been the first movie. Yeah, I don't even
know the name of it, but I remember the place
and well, yeah, I remember a lot of details from that. Yeah,
all right, it was based against it was I remember,
(02:53):
and I remember where I was. I just remember we
were over about my buddies playing. So there was a
Cinemax on late night. I was like, oh that was
we took a tab bit of a different turn. You
actually didn't know their names. They were that famous. They
(03:14):
were just they were team almost. I think they call
it Skinner Max. Yeah, they definitely did. It's been so
much for arts, artistic and now now that was obviously
growing up in Ohio and you're growing up in Ohio.
You mixed you know, those movies in with some Browns football.
I gotta tell you, man, if I'm a Breast fan,
(03:36):
listen as as smooth as it gets. If I'm if
I'm a Browns fan, you go back to Cinemax, Q.
Aren't you proud of how that team played last night?
Are you proud of how that team played last night?
Growing up a Browns fan, Brady Quick, that was a
damn fun game, man, it was a fun game. I
(03:58):
loved how Miles Garrett, who was fighting through an injury,
you know, did his best to try to have it,
you know, make an impact the way he was playing
in the end. Tag McKinley looks like he may be
out for the rest of the year with the torn achilles.
But that being said, I mean even the way they
ran the football on the end with Nick Chubb just
getting some tough yards, I was, I was, I was impressed.
(04:18):
But at the same time, it went from being first
in the anf C North literally on a field goal,
to being dead last now, and it's got to be
frustrating for Baker and Kevin Stefan's gonna sit back and
watch how that game took place, how it transpired, and
the NFL did everything they could to help the Browns
(04:39):
and give them a shot, and in the end, it
only ended up being John Johnson who end up coming
off that COVID list, so they got their work cut
out for him. The good thing is, well, we got
three games left I think for each team now, and
they've got a couple of divisional games that should could
help them, couldn't help them trying to climb back into
this thing. That was fun, man. I I gotta tell
(05:02):
you watching that game and then you've see him where
we can get into the whole double Monday night football
conversation later on, which which I'm a huge fan of it,
have been for a long time. But just watching that
game and I said, all, this is a bad football game,
and these are backups, and they're under man etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
I don't care, man, that was a fun game. That
was a lot of fun to watch, just seeing Nick
(05:23):
Mollins play the way that he played with with no
time to get ready for that game, and it had
the Raiders lost that game, and and say, Carlson misses
that kick, that's got to be one of the worst
losses we've seen in a long time. In the end,
prob I mean cars interception first and ten. I mean
it would be one thing if it was fourth down
(05:45):
and it's more of a desperation play, but on first
intend when you're driving like that, it was it was
I mean, look, I know Kurr Warner want to say
I was a good decision. You got the safety to
put up. Yeah, it could have been that good of
a decision. The corner was still over the top and
end up picking it off like it was just completely
unnecessary for that point in time in the game. Again
(06:06):
and fourth down and they feel like they needed to
take a shot and need to do something that makes
sense not at that point. So uh, kudos to Derek
Carr being able to get the football back, drive his
team down to give Carlson a chance. And by way,
what about the brass balls on Carlson? He hits the
first field goal that they called the time out and
try to ice him, and then he still puts it
(06:27):
three even better the second time that takes, especially on
a road stadium where there's a little bit of wind
and all that they're off the lake, and it took
a lot of balls from him to be able to
do that. You know, a f C matchup this late
in the season playoff implications. Like you said, the Browns,
I thought this was more of Uh. I've been trying
(06:49):
to figure out which one has been more of a
must win for which team. Uh. It probably was more
so for the Raiders than it was for the Hounds.
But then again, like you said, Brady, they go from
being first to lass off of that loss. I just
thought that there were so much connected to this game
(07:10):
that watching the way that it played out, I mean,
you gotta believe that that was a playoff caliber game
because they're indeed fighting for, you know, their playoff birth.
So you know, you look at it and and you say,
these are two teams that have gone through a whole lot.
(07:30):
You know, they it's two turbulent teams to two turbulent organizations,
one for injuries, the other for other things, you know,
more off field based and related. But you know, to
watch it play out the way that it did, You're
You're looking at the Raiders and it's like, Okay, are
the Raiders going to jack it up? Are they gonna
(07:50):
be able to pull it out? Um? Are the Browns
going to jack it up? Are they going to be
able to pull it out? And I think that because
the storylines were so so similar during the course of
the game, I think that that's what made it so
so impact for so so entertaining to watch. You know,
it's great about football. You could have a grimy, sloppy
(08:11):
game like that and it's still a good game. You
have a sloppy game in the NBA, it's unwatchable. I
I I don't care how many more turnovers there would
have been in that game. That was entertaining as hell
last night. I I no complaints whatsoever with that and
the performance of by their team. I'll put it this
way too. You could have backups play like we saw
last night and it's entertaining if people will still watch.
(08:33):
If if Lebron and some of the other stars set
out for the Lakers, I'm not watching it down. But
that league is so dependent upon their stars, and by
the way, maybe that's one of the reasons why those
guys have so much control and can push the NBA
owners around a little bit. Where in the NFL, the
owners know exactly what they have. They have a product
(08:54):
that sustains I don't care if it's a Hall of
Famer whatever. Like people try to act like, you know,
when when guys got paid, man is gonna retire people,
all the viewerships gonna go down. No, it's not. It's
never gone down. It doesn't matter who retired, it's already retired,
and in fact it's going up. That happened is a
good point because if if a star sits out in
(09:15):
the NBA fans bitch and moan, and they do multiple
segments on other networks talking about all, by God, should
fans be given a refund. It's not fair to the
fans rest days. I mean all the all the harder
and money that was paid for tickets. Bro, Nobody was
bitching that the Browns were missing so many starters that
that stadium was rocking last night. They were still loud,
(09:36):
They still showed up and still made noise and supported
their teams. So that is a good point. That's a
difference between they got to keep the basketball. They play
so many more games. So it's like you gotta pick
and choose once you get down to the nitty gritty
of the season. If guys are still doing low management
when games matter towards your your playoff birth and your bid,
(09:58):
that's you know, I think that that's when it's really matters.
But that's the amazing nous of football is we have
the fewest games, you know, we when you look at
what we bring to the table, our storylines play out
so amazingly. The storytelling ability of of the production and
the people surrounding the game of football. You can't draw
(10:20):
up scripts any better than what this reality TV show
provides on on a game basis, a daily basis, a
weekly basis. It's just it's unmatchable by any other other
reality television show that's out there. I mean, name the
longer running reality show that gives the people what they're
(10:42):
looking for. Even if you're not an avid sports fan,
it's still if you really look at what football provides
for you, it still provides storylines that are worth worth
investing your time in to pay attention to. So, I mean,
the NFL is dope and last night and I thought
it was it was really cool to have you know,
that take place, um and then we get to do
(11:03):
it again tonight. You know, it's almost like it's like
Ken Ken tonight, you know, live up to what what
the games look like yesterday, at least the first game.
I don't want to name call here on the air,
That's the last thing I want to do. But but no,
But to your point, LaVar, if you don't like football,
you're such a loser, like just I mean, what a loser?
(11:24):
How how could you not sit back and be entertained
by what you saw last night? Like that? You think
about all the people that on a Sunday are doing
laundry or or at the grocery store, just not a
care in the world, not realizing that there's multiple games
on television they could be enjoying. Instead they're shopping for
juji fruits and and and snack goods. I'm just like,
(11:47):
I just I just think about that, like you want.
You drive around sometimes you see it's like there's somebody
on this road that doesn't like football. Yeah, just somebody
on this road doesn't like football, doesn't care that. People
that I think very highly of that now don't really
subscriut right to the football thing. And I keep away
from me. Yeah I do. I live with one. In fact,
I see what you're saying. Yeah, I live and I've
(12:09):
got one of those two could care less like really, no, no,
for real like it like it's it's a stressful time
in our lives when football seasons here. Yeah, it's interesting.
But it creates a communal again, this is my pitch.
It creates a communal environment. It's it's no different than
(12:30):
going to the movie theater and watching a movie. If
you can, if you can make your point well enough,
you can position it where it becomes a communal opportunity,
whether it's you know, the making of the food, or
inviting friends over and then there's a friend that that's
that's willing to you know, entertain you while you entertain
them while everybody else is watching the games, or yeah,
(12:53):
at the bar. You know, you can find other other
opportunities of of conversation, but football can ultimately be a
great ice breaker for for new new friendships and different things.
I had plenty of ice breaking moments using football on
people before marriage. Of course, Um that that I was
able to to actually leverage the fact that, uh, they
(13:17):
did not enjoy football, and it led to an amazing conversation.
It actually leads to a better conversation if they don't
like football. It's all you young bucks out there that
may find yourself in a sports restaurant, um, sipping on
a lemonade of some sort of some kind of beverage.
You know. Yeah, yeah, that's the clarification there. Just make
(13:37):
sure you use that that ice breaking ability and say
that you know what I get why you don't like football? Yeah,
I understand it. Here are some really interesting points about
football that you may like. They wear type hands, um,
I don't know, they run really fast. They I'm a
three time Pro bowler. I mean I may have played
(13:58):
in a couple of Pro Bowls, you know, I may
play in the National Football League, you know, one day,
you know, But for now, I play here, actually, at
this fine school that we're attending and hanging out at.
You know that broach that things get a little bit
more interesting for you? Does football seem a tad bit
more interesting? You know? I'm Brady Quinn? Yeah, what do
(14:22):
you mean, your Brady? What exactly happen? Can you imagine
if you did all that and your punch line is
I'm Brady Quinn and you look like Brady Quinn. I mean,
that's gotta be good. Yeah, good quarterback Brady Quinn, the
quarterback from your fine school here. How's the comfort level, Brady?
(14:45):
Right about that? How you feel? I just I always
always hate this. I wish we could get to the
conversation the fact that we do have football tonight. We
do have football on prime time tonight. I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna get on my soupbox and star are
my you know, start my preaching for why I feel
like we should have football every night in prime time
(15:06):
during football season. But I'll save that for for another second.
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You're on FSR. Yeah, what's wrong with you? He's Grady Quinn. Yeah,
I love this song. Yeah, Oh that's the way. Why
does he do that? I don't know. It's so weird, man,
I don't know why he does that. Why can't we
(16:13):
just talk football? That's that Nick? Not Nick Cage. Who's
the one, Nick Nolty. I don't know, never Nicholas Cannon.
Maybe Nick Cannon. I don't think he makes those. Oh yeah,
that's movie where he was making that, Like, like, you know,
I think it's Nicolas Cage. It's it's actually usual what
Jonas does to this song, not whatever reason he didn't. Yeah,
(16:36):
I don't. I don't know what he's talking about. I mean,
I'm just trying to do a professional sports show here,
you know what. You know. I hate to get on
my soapbox, but I would really like to just kind
of talk about the fact that, you know, there was
another game on last night, and there's a few more
on tonight. You know, Washington, you know they're playing tonight.
They're they're in the hunt. You know, I think they're
(17:00):
in the hunt. I mean they're not really they're trying. Yeah. Yeah, well,
I mean, you know, before we get to uh, some
teams that are actually decent um Oh my god, h
Brady Chicago Bears are are an absolute Are you even
able to be excited about winning against the Bears. That's like,
(17:21):
is it like borderline kind of the same thing to
beat the Bears that it is to beat you should
be in prime time. That those are his only two wins.
On Monday night, foot player have come against the Bears,
and he was he was flinging the ball around the
field last night. Imagine how excited Kirk Cousins gets when
he sees that he has the Bears on a primetime game,
(17:44):
not like a real team. They said, Man, all I
gotta do is for under a hundred yards and we're
gonna win. And it's not even gonna be close. And
it's supposed to be considered to be a divisional rival.
What the defense and their offense just is. But it
just sucks because when your team is bad, nobody cares
if your defense is good or they don't. They don't care.
(18:06):
If you have a great punt returner or kickoff return
or a great receiver, nobody cares because all you do
is lose. And the good thing is that the good
thing is at least they have at least they have
their top their top five pick in the draft. So
that's a good thing for the Bears. I mean, they
are going to have all that try. They traded that
(18:27):
one away too, so they don't have a first round
pick this year. Okay, just was curious, just wondering how
how things are going in Chicago this year. Unbelievable, what
a terrible, terrible team. But the Minnesota Vikings stay alive.
They get it done. Kirk Cousins surros froun or a
hundred yards and uh and the and the Vikings win
the game. Justin Jefferson not much of a factor, although
he did have a touchdown that um and uh and
(18:50):
and so yeah, I don't know how you walk away
from that game if your Vikings fan and go all right, alright, guys,
uh this this feels great. Let's go ahead and let's
celebrate this thing. Even though some people got you know,
robbed on the final score, maybe you had a betting
interest in it. With the Bears plus seven, they didn't
(19:11):
kick the extra point after they scored the final touchdown,
which to me is a terrible decision. It's an untimed down.
It should happen, but unfortunately didn't. Sill a lot of people.
Hold on for a second, which level is it? Is it?
Both levels? Where college at NFL? Where after they scored
at the final as the time expires, they don't have to.
I think it's both, but I don't understand why, like like,
(19:34):
I mean, it's it's already kind of a non competitive play,
but given that it's not gonna play any impact whatsoever
on the outcome of the game, I get your point, Well,
what do you wanted to go for two the bed cover? No? Yes,
some sort of an extra point opportunity, kicked the extra point. Look,
we we can try and dismiss the idea. Serious questions,
(19:54):
serious question. Does gambling get to a point where a
coach makes a decision like that? No? I think the league, though,
should make you And we've talked about it before, like
you got to realize gamblings here and it's not going anywhere,
and it's a big part of the popularity explosion in
the game. I mean, doesn't that make you feel a
(20:15):
little dirty if you do know a coach is doing
that to go for I don't know, man, what was
it Mark Stoops this year in Kentucky versus Yeah? It
was no, man, No, it was God, it was it
was it was Georgia, wasn't it. I think it was
against Georgia. I think Georgia, where it was like very
(20:37):
apparent what he was doing and why he was doing.
Let mean, come on, you know he's got you know,
you know some people with you know, some interest in Ohio.
I just say, there are some people that were interested
in But don't you think though, if if you're the
NFL and you realize that gambling has as much of
an impact in the game that if you know what's
going on in every point matters, don't leave any points
(20:59):
on the table ball, like if you literally rule, and
then that way you keep people glued to the TV
through that final play even though the game is decided.
But you want to know if you made your money?
Of course, come on, mankind, yeah, you kind of like
it a lot. Actually, this is what needs to happen. Um,
(21:21):
Can I ask a question on a separate on a
different level or in a different area than than gambling,
but maybe it is relatable to gambling? Though? Is it
is it good to be a team that actually is
in the playoff hunt but you know they really don't
(21:42):
have a chance at all to win in the playoffs? No,
that's not fun for anybody? Or should or should that
take that's borderline? Good enough? To make it to the playoffs.
That may make it to the playoffs. Is it better
if they missed the playoffs? That's a great question because
the first game Browns, Browns and Raiders have a set
we ask you that question, like Raiders, w Do the
(22:02):
Raiders really have a shot at the playoffs? No? I
don't think so. But what if they made it in
they don't have a shot to do anything right? I'm sorry,
but but but doesn't doesn't Minnesota give you that feel too? Though?
Like Minnesota made me. I felt when I was watching
them last night. Minnesota made me feel like, man, is
(22:23):
it is it better if they missed the playoffs altogether?
Or if they go to the playoffs? You you kind
of know whoever it is that they play, they're probably
going to lose to them. Well, I mean, what's the
difference in them making the playoffs and not making the playoffs?
As far as draft order goes a couple of spots,
So it's really like, you're not I don't know that
that there's that much of a difference. The only the
(22:45):
only reason I think Minnesota would need to make the
playoffs is because I think if they missed the playoffs,
Mike Zimmer could be in like I think I think
Mike Zimmer could be in trouble just based on on
how that team looks. And I don't think Kirk Cousins
is locked up for another couple of years, right, Brady.
I don't think they get out of the deal unless
they've got to pay a significant amount from from my
understanding if I remember that correctly, Because there was some
(23:07):
conversation about well, what's Kirk cousins future. Like, Look, he
hasn't played bad. It's not like I mean last night
was it was a bad look, But you know, Kirk
Cousins had a pretty good year um and and Adam
Feeland wasn't out there. I just think he's got one
more year left then he hits free agency, so technically
they could move on from him. But the problem is
(23:27):
that he's got such a huge dead cap hit that's
carried over that they would have to trade it but
have someone who can absorb it. But that's probably not
gonna happen. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't.
I mean, you know, I'm telling you Kirk Cousins has
played out between the franchise tag and just the business
of football, and how he's kind about to go shoo
(23:49):
against contracts, probably better than almost every quarterback that's ever
played in the NFL. I'll be serious when I say
that he was the only one who had he balls
to play out his rookie deal through to franchise tags
and then signed the first fully guaranteed deal for a
three year deal. I mean he's the first player to
(24:12):
do that. Then after that he signs these short term extensions.
And he's played well enough, which is the biggest key,
and stayed healthy that's allowed him then too, after a
year or two into that deal, continually like twist the
screws to the team and say, look, I've got a
year left on this thing. You know my history, Like
(24:32):
I'll press this thing to free agency and go somewhere else.
And so they have to extend him, and they have
to convert some of that money, some of his salary
that's coming in next year. He's his salary will be
thirty five million. So because of that and not to
take a significant portion of the cap, they'll have to
extend him again for another year just to spread out
and convert some of it into a bonus. And so
(24:54):
we gets some of that cash right now. Like I'm
telling you, he has handled it as good, if not
better than any other quarterback in the NFL. With this,
it's amazing. You want to be onna have a fun
little game show, impromptu game show here, alright, So we
got game show music ready. We have a live studio
band that's here with us. They are masked up and
(25:15):
socially distance here. We have sanitized all the instruments as
they get ready to pipe right now. Yes, absolutely absolutely
we are. They have had all fourteen booster shots to
go there with their three maderna and across uh the
other night, so the live studio band, I mean, it
(25:39):
was loud, alright. So so let's let's get into it here.
Kirk Cousins career earnings. All right, So this is according
to SPO track I believe is the pronunciation of the
website Kirk Cousins career earnings. Brady Quinn, would you like
to take a stab at this here? He made over
(26:00):
a hundred I know that because that three year deal
was worth what like eighty seven or whatever it was.
I don't know. You can't, I can't ask after tax
I'm just going it's confused, but I'm gonna say, like
over a hundred and fifty million. I think he's made
over a hundred and fifty million. All right, Lamar Arrington,
you want to take a spin at this? It's probably
(26:23):
in and around. They're probably give him like one one
one tin, okay, so one hundred and fifty five zero, Yeah,
so you're gonna go one fifteen? All right? Lee de Lap,
you want to take a guess at this? Lee, you
want to guess kirk cousins career salary. I was gonna
say one forty, okay, so one forty for Lee. Roberto,
(26:47):
you want to take a spin at this here? One
forty one? All right? Who that's a very true that
that's not that's not that good because I don't think
he's going on. I want with lead, like, yeah, I
got this one more. Brady could be over there. Edmund Garcia,
(27:07):
you want to take as at this? I'm gonna pull
the Roberto and that's the drumroll. Please, here we go
a little over one hundred and sixty one million dollars
for kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins getting paid absolutely paid by
(27:33):
the Vikings and the Washington football team. Uh and all
this for two wins on Monday Night football against the
Crumby Bears. How about that hundred and sixty million dollars.
He's gonna get two more rights to the Apple, isn't he. Yeah,
he'll at least get one. I don't know if he'll
get too, depending on how long of a deal get
and that bites like again, he'll sign an extension where
(27:56):
he gets a portion of that given to him in
a form of a bonus, and it will extend him
out another year. Um. But it's crazy to me that,
Like when I hear those numbers, I immediately cut it
in half because of Uncle Sam, Like, okay, so he's
really made a hundreds and then depending on what he's
(28:17):
spending all that. Like that's that's how I think. That's
the terrible part about Like when you see these contracts,
is you just cut in half right away? Yeah, it's
but you know, listen, I think a lot of people
out there would take that eighty million. I mean think
I think that it's such that you gotta make one
hundred and sixty million to make eighty to eight just
you know, I don't know, it's just call me crazy,
(28:38):
you know, I've seen that happen though, you know, in
real time. So yeah, you see that. It's kind of
just want to say you were you were in d C.
So that's more like with local it's more like six
of your paycheck goes to Uncle Sam. Hey bro and
I lived in Virginia. So you worked in Maryland, you
(28:59):
had to hey d C the district, and you had
to pay Virginia because you you you practiced in Virginia.
You did business in Washington, d C. And you play
games in Maryland and they had personal property taxes in Virginia.
It's crazy, man. And then you get guys that get,
(29:19):
you know, contracts similar to yours, and they live in
a place like Pittsburgh and they the taxes are low,
the cost of living is you know, it's just kind
of it just makes you it's like kind of like
would choose your poison? Like do you want to go
to a small market like Pittsburgh, Hey, you know the best,
(29:41):
you know, the best place to go? A f C
South Bay. You get drafted to that, a f C
South You've got three teams with no state income tax
and then you're playing in one of the third almost
went to Jacksonville because of that as a free agent
between Green Bay, New York Giants and Jacksonville. I almost
(30:01):
chose Jacksonville just because of the tax implications in the breaks.
People don't realize how big of a deal that is
in the off season for players. I mean it's a
significant portion of the negotiation. Yeah, what are the taxes
in London when they eventually moved there. How is that
going to impact it? Because they better be paying more
money because our dollar isn't as strong as there, or
(30:21):
they've got to increase their salary cap to then reflect
that so they have more space in which to spend. Uh,
it's two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on
Fox Sports Radio, We've we've lost Lamar Arrington due to
TV one. For the next several minutes here on FS
are Uh, it's going on. Let me tell you something.
(30:45):
It is radio. It is a radio movie, Private Parts.
Parts is on in the studio. By the way, anybody
noticed the equipment from that thirty year old movie say
the same thing? All right, Coming up next, We've got
a fight brewing. It is a cross sport fight and
it could get really really bad for a former All pro.
(31:05):
Will get into that for your next Here on fs
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be that's gotta be like the worst gift to half.
You got problems derail your own conversation. You've got problems
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(32:07):
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About that sticks, pretty cool man gets up out there.
(32:50):
I'm sure hoping that we continue on with what started.
I'll tell you. Yeah, maybe Brady, I'll get an invite. Maybe,
you know, Brady is a part of the alumni, you
know what I mean, Like it's all pros on that show.
It would have to be called all pros and no.
Joe's good. Yeah, that's good. That's so cold, that cold.
(33:15):
You couldn't be invited because you just wouldn't be able
to roll with us. All right, very good guy, I
take care of you. Joe. He's got loose lips over there,
Yeah he does have a little like he might, you know,
really really tell ye you'll never think you'll never you'll
never think to remember anything that we went through. But
let me tell you what happened. Yeah, I got your
(33:37):
never mind say, why are you messing with your microphone?
Sounded weird. I didn't want to derail the bowling segment
here for you guys, you know, picking on somebody, I
don't want to derail. Just wanting to make sure that
I mean, everybody got there. Let everybody out there got
an opportunity to hear you know, Jone, just get you know,
(33:57):
bullies attacks, attack violently here on the air. Cancel culture
comes for bullies, So you gotta be careful when you
say bullying. You'll be on this show literally by yourself,
maybe by design. The Jonas Not Show moves to two
week days. That is a fair point, ted Am the
New Eastern Time every single Saturday. Here the undercard for
(34:18):
up on Game. Still can't get that invite though, all right,
it is time for something we do on the show
called this. Sometimes you can't get to everything in the
world of sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are
here to bring you in case you missed it. And
for that we turn it over to lead to lap
our executive producer to find out what the hell is
(34:39):
going on Lee you guys, In case you missed it.
Over the weekend, YouTuber turned boxer Jake Paul kode Tyron
Woodley and uh, you know, lady on Bill had something
to say. He went to Twitter and said, uh, he's
tired of this and Jake Paul should stop fighting small
dudes who can't box, to which you responded, Hey, Tyron
would drop you faster than the Ravens, not needing all
(35:01):
that defense himself. Tyron came back at Levy on Bell saying, Hey,
a person curates enough to go into battle and use
that to try to throw your name in there for
a bag without making that walk. That's what we call
cloud chasing. Surprising from you, lady on No, Woodley has
to set his mouth. He's not allowed to talk any trash. Well,
(35:25):
he ya, Tyrone Woodley smoke lady on Bell like he would,
he would put him to sleep. I don't know about that.
I mean, come on, man, I don't know about that
five time UFC champion, Come on, by time USC champion
that got put to sleep like r I p sleep
(35:45):
can I ask this question because this was going around,
Thank you, Rot, there was going around. Why are you
so upset by this? I mean that it's just like
you guys you watch the tape. Yes, I watched the fight.
I watched the fight. Then you you would have known
that it was a little bit uh that Jake Paul
twice not once twice gave a little signal with this
(36:07):
wrist in which seemed a little bit awkward, and all
of a sudden, Tyron Woodley's hands dropped. He literally had
them up and as soon as they stepped in, he
dropped him to leave himself open to get knocked out. Okay,
you really think that Tyron Woodley wanted to get knocked
out cold? Yes? Now, first of all, there's face like
(36:32):
that for no no chest. But there's guys that, yeah,
I say, you might not, but there's guys that have.
I ain't going out here, goes Jonas. No, I'm just saying.
Leo Santa Cruz is a guy who fights at the
lower weights. He has a twitch. He has a little
bit of a hitch in his style to where he's
constantly turning his wrist like that when he throws. Yeah,
(36:54):
you know who doesn't watch, Go watch Brady. I want
to watch fight. I watched it happen. I'm saying, Walls,
he doesn't have that twitch. It was, it was fixed.
I'm saying that moment and how it ended it might
have been. If you don't think that boxing doesn't have
a history of this. Of course, you don't think that
the fact that a guy who they're having a second
(37:16):
fight that could have been part of the agreement for
a guy who believes a conspiracy theories. It's crazy to
me that you're not willing to look at that tape
and not go all right, there might be more to
the folks. Stick around. Later on, Brady's gonna break down
a book Bigfoot footage, and he's gonna tell you why
Bigfoot's real and UFOs are landing on Earth as we
(37:38):
just hits directly home to Jonas because he claims to
be the biggest boxing fans live scores it on Twitter,
and he's upset that there might be some fixing. There's
no I'm not upset by it. There. I watched the
I watched the He sounds irritated by it and the reality.
I haven't seen a knockout like this in a long
(37:59):
time where looked like it was clean. It was a
clean knockout. Not only was it clean, it seemed like
it was timed up clean it. It was all the
way there, I mean, and he went all the way
to sleep, like all the way bit he buy you
see the way his feet were when he hit the ground.
Oh yeah, God, like you're he was probably not even
(38:19):
that flexible to be able to do that. He was
in that moment flatterth theories with Brady Quain coming up
about twenty minutes from now, it's it's sad that you're
you of all people who are the conspiracy theory guy,
aren't willing to say that other tell you something maybe
that that that I'm not that I'm not buying into this,
not buy into all the conspiracy theories, gonna think it's
(38:40):
fun conversation this is and this is a fun conversation
because it would real too, you know, according to Brady,
I mean, who knows, who knows what? This guy unbelievable.
But let me ask you this, why is he not
fought at actual box to them, because that's part of
the plan. He knows what he's plan that he got
up record. What do you do you set up that
(39:03):
second fight to ensure that you win. Keep going up
that record. They're getting huge paid. Yes, do you know
why the second fight happened? Because No, the guy that
originally had signed on to fight Tommy Fury got injured,
so Tyron Woodley was a replacement. This wasn't And they
were always they were always trying to make another fight
or Tyson Woodley was always trying to make another fight work.
(39:24):
I know this set up or not he got knocked up.
Conspiracy theories Streight far Boy. Fox Sports Radio has the
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