November 28, 2025 • 40 mins
Brian Noe & Jason Martin fill in on this Post Thanksgiving Edition of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe! The guys discuss the Chiefs loss to the Cowboys, the signs that point that Chiefs dynasty is coming to an end, then transition into what is actually going on with Lamar Jackson?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh what is going on? Happy Friday? To a Happy
Black Friday to you. As a matter of fact, here
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Good morning, Jason Martin, How are things? How was the Thanksgiving?
Everything good? Everything's good? Everything's good. Food was good, Football
was interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Definitely say that lot to jump into and of course
a lot to get to in the weekend, but solid
Thanksgiving all around for the Martin household.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
That's good, very good.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I spent a portion of my Thanksgiving with the neighborhood
cat Oreo. Have I given you any of the details
about how awesome.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Oreo is, Jane, No, but I'm gonna assume it's a
black cat.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's right, Okay, it's a neighborhood black cat. Oreo has
a home. Oreo has owners, but will routinely visit places
all around, like the apartment complex, including my place. So
Oreo was hanging out last night, you know, came by
for a late Thanksgiving dinner and then just hung out
and you know, we woke up early and we're doing
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the show now, right, so we're not ready to get
into it here.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
But that was awesome. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
But man, I thought your description was great, Like yesterday
was interesting.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yeah, Ei, there was a all three underdogs won.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
The Packers were a road underdog they beat the Lions.
Cowboys were a home underdog. They beat the Chiefs, and
the Bengals another road dog. They were eight point underdogs.
Joe Burrow comes back and they smack around the Ravens
thirty two to fourteen, Which are the three games with
those results going the way they did stood out to
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you most as far as the playoff picture significance going forward,
Was it the Chiefs going down for you?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I think Detroit and Green Bay are both still in
pretty good position. And then obviously you weren't. You were
only watching one playoff team. Potentially in the late game,
I might be more shocked by what I saw in
that game, or at least a little bit more shocked.
But I think that coming out of Kansas City and Dallas,
like it was very close to Kansas City having a
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losing record right now, they had to make that comeback
to beat the Colts on Sunday and then yesterday against Dallas. Like,
the more I watched the Chiefs, and again, this is
why I haven't tried to make any sweeping just feelings
about what I think they are, because from week to
week it just you just don't know exactly. But the
more I watched them, the more I'm just like, man,
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if you can't beat them this year, Like, what hope
is there for anybody in the AFC because this team
is so flawed.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Now.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
They didn't have Tray Smith yesterday. That's a big deal obviously,
But at the same time, like the Cowboys really kind
of pushed the envelope all day yesterday.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
They were the aggressors.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I thought Dak Prescott again was just excellent and has
been all year long. Pickens and Lamb both making big
time plays. Pickens making some kind of alien, just insane
play where he almost hurtled a guy after getting through
like three or four tackles near the right sideline, and
he might have scored on that play.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
But then they do go ahead and score.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
But the defense for Kansas City, it doesn't matter what
spac Nola's calling. That just they're not that great, at
least not against the top flight offense. And the more
I watch the offense.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
It's just you have these guys, you have Rashi Rice,
and you obviously you have the quarterback, and you have
some of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
But it just doesn't look the same. It looks like
I'm trying to think what I could really could compare
it to. It's like the Patriots the year you knew
they weren't gonna win it all, or a team like
that where they're still a good team, but by no
means are you gonna call them great like And there's
nothing about what the Chiefs are bringing on a week
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to week basis that is particularly impressive. And so I
just look at it him just like man AFC, You've
got to take advantage of this, like if you cannot
get to the super Bowl instead of this team, And
this team's gonna have some work to make the super Bowl.
I mean, Mahomes said it himself after the game, he said,
we got to win them all from now on out. Yeah,
I mean that's pretty much true because they're not going
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to win the division. And there's just there's something just
they look old. They just look like a team we've seen.
We've been here and done this before. But maybe we're
not going to the theater on the first weekend anymore.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's one of these deals where I'm watching the Chiefs
yesterday shoot themselves in the foot again and again, and
I'm watching them and I'm like, are they just mentally spent?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Where I was flipping channels the other day and there's
a I think it's a thirty for thirty on the Bills.
You know, Oh, he lost four straight Super Bowls and
the last super Bowl that they lost, they were they
might have had a lead at halftime against the Cowboys.
It was a close game. They were either like slightly
ahead or slightly behind. I can't remember, but like they
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interviewed former Bills player after former Bills player, Steve Tasker
was on that team, and he was like, at halftime,
I could tell we just had nothing left. We were
in the super Bowl for four straight years, and even
though that was a close game, we just had nothing
left to give. And I'm wondering if that sort of
applies to the Chiefs also, and some of it might.
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They've been to the AFC title game nine straight years.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, and they look like.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
A team that's sort ofly mentally just not focused to
the degree they need to be. But then I'll always
try to like check my work, you know, like your
math teacher always to check your work, right, So if
I come up with the theory, I try to test
it out to see if it really makes sense, and
halfway it does, in halfway it doesn't take. For instance,
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Rashie Rice had a huge drop yesterday, So the Chiefs
are down by seven points. They've got the ball near midfield.
It's third and eight, Like we're in the fourth quarter,
we're under ten minutes to play, and he just drops
a ball right over the middle, like easy first down,
easy catch.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Just dropped it.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Now, that's a guy who isn't like a ten year veteran.
You know, it's not like it's been so mentally taxing.
He only played four games last season because of injury.
He was suspended for the first six games this season.
This is his third year. Rashie Rice is not a
guy that's just like man, all these AFC title game appearances,
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it's so mentally taxing.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
He's not a guy like that.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That's a guy just dropping a ball in a key
moment and the Chiefs finding a way to hurt themselves.
So it's somewhat makes sense where they seem like a
team that's just I don't know, they've they've been redlining
for so long. You're seeing the effects of that, but
I don't think it applies to the entire team. Sometimes
you're just making big mistakes and key moments.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, Like it's just it's not crisp, it's not. Yeah,
the little things, the details that the Chiefs never used
to beat themselves doing they're doing. And I mean, eventually
this is gonna happen eventually, It's not gonna be year year.
Eventually somebody else is gonna get an opportunity. But they're
just not that good. And the other thing is they're
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not that fun to watch either. And I think this
may be started last year.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
But even though they do have.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Some dynamic players, Rice probably being near the top of
that list, like, I just don't have fun watching them.
It just I'd rather watch a lot of other teams
in this league than watch Kansas City right now.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And that even goes from Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I know he does some some special stuff from week
to week, but there's just like a very yep. I
have seen this a lot. Like you always talk about
how eventually somebody gets a look at some tape and
year two is not as good as year one. Well,
there's a lot of tape on Patrick Mahomes, there's a
lot of tape on this Kansas City offense. There's a
lot of tape overall on the Chiefs, and so it's
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just kind of like, man, I've seen my share of tape.
I want to see something else. I was more we're
entertained by four by the first game yesterday than the second.
But I was actually just watching Dallas, like man, I
did that segment yesterday where what have we been wrong about? Well,
one is I think Brian Schottenheimer has done a pretty
good job. I mean really he has, because we all
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sort of laughed off that higher. But not only have
they not fallen apart, they've kind of galvanized and you
know the moves that they made at the deadline there
to get a couple of guys on defense, I do
think that that helps him out.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
And ebra Flus has had a pretty good season as well.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
But this offense, man, this Dallas offense is just a
blast to watch.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Dak Prescott is just he's.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Playing some of the best football of his career and
you could see it because he's smiling, laughing and just
having a good time. He's living his best life right now.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
No, he is.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
He's played really really solid football, and they still strike
me as a team that I think he's the Burrow
of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yeah, I think this is very possible.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, where Burrow was sensational last season and they just
had an average record because the defense was so bad.
Now the Cowboys lately, their defense looks way way better.
They were getting just absolutely gashed and giving up big
play after big play earlier in the season, but they
haven't done that as of late, so they've been better.
They've gotten healthy yer, a couple of trades have helped out.
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Getting Quinn Williams is a big deal. But the thing
with the Chiefs, you know what's funny is have you
ever had a vehicle with transmission problems?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Of course, yeah, I think we all have at some point.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, I've definitely had a couple of vehicles over the years.
And that's what the Chiefs offense is like to me. Right,
if you're driving your car and whatever, you're in fourth
gear and you're trying to get up to fifth gear
and it just doesn't want to kick into fifth gear.
That's how the Chiefs offense is running this year. They're
like a car with transmission problems. And the thing that
is wild to me is they are a six and
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six football team with the completely healthy Patrick Mahomes. You
know what I mean, Like, if you're just explaining how
the Chiefs got to this point to someone who hasn't
been watching each and every game, if they're like, so as, like,
what's the deal. They're six and so what's going on
with them? The way I would describe it, I'd be like, Ah,
they're just I don't know, they're kind of sloppy. They've
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made big mistakes at times, and it's like, is that it.
It's like, yeah, that's kind of it. Mahomes has been
healthy all year. It would make more sense if Mahomes
got hurt in like week two and they've had their
backup this whole time or something, or they've had a
number of significant injuries and you could say, man, that
the injury bugs really hurt them. Man, that's why they're
six and six. You really can't say any of those things.
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It's just they're not making those plays when they need to,
or they're just doing a handful of just stupid things,
like just silly mistakes and their opponents take advantage of it.
It used to be the other way around, man, The
Chiefs never killed themselves like that, and they always pounced
on those opportunity. I don't know, man, they just don't
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have it this year. They do not have their fastball.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
No, they don't. And we're getting to the point where
there's not gonna be enough time for them to turn
it around. Yeah, their schedule, they've still got a couple
of pretty tough games on the horizon. They got one
more against Denver, for example, and they really have almost
no margin for error at this point. It's very weird
to see the graphic of playoffs for whatever game you're
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watching and see in the Hunt and then see the
Chiefs logo. Yeah, that's where we are right now. And
not just the Chief's logo. You're also seeing that about
the Ravens.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
And they need like big help.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
They're losing a tiebreaker to a number of teams just
to get into the playoffs. Like they are in major
trouble here. So I don't know that they're even sneaking
into this thing here. If you look at their remaining schedule,
it's like I could see that being a loss. That
could be another loss, Like next week they host the
Texans on Sunday Night, then they get the Chargers, and
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they get the Broncos on Christmas Day. Yeah, those are
not easy games that The easier games are at the
Titans at the Raiders. But man, could you see one
or two more losses with the Texans, Chargers and Broncos.
I could if you see one or two more losses, Man,
it's curtains, it's not gonna work out.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, I mean, I will say this, I think we
can survive this season without Kansas City making the playoffs.
I think as a football watching public will still be okay. Yeah,
I still think there's gonna be some good games, some
good things that happen, even if Kansas City doesn't make it.
Maybe it would be a refreshing change of pace. As
a matter of fact, because I kind of don't want
to see this version of the Chiefs get in. It's
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gonna be tempting to still want to pick them that
they do get in, because well, why would you not
based on everything we've seen in the past. The only
thing I will say in their favor is like, if
they do get in, I'm not looking at this AFC
and seeing a bunch of juggernauts here.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Bro I know. Yeah, it's such a weird year, man. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
If they somehow sneak in, they they'll be executing at
a much higher level. They have to to be able
to win these games, and you're gonna be like, eh,
it's kind of hard to take the Patriots even though
they have home field or the Frocos, you know, but
we'll cross that bridge if we get to it. I
just don't know that we're gonna get there, man, I don't.
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If I had to bet one way or the other today,
I would bet on the Chiefs not making the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
So what I mean, I think they're under fifty percent chance.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Now I think it's like a forty seven somewhere in
that percent chance. And like a lot of teams, you
see that and you're like, yeah, they're probably not gonna
make it.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
But with the Chiefs say yeah, but it's Mahomes, it's
Andy Reid. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But eventually, like you've played enough games to where it
doesn't matter who it is.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
It's just not your year. Yeah, I know it.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It's like when they're winning all fifteen of their one
score games last season and now they're what one in six,
I want to say, in one games.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
The play yesterday is George Pickens trying to spin around
and make a play gain a first down any fumbles
and there are like four Chiefs just like circling the football,
and out of nowhere, here comes Turpin and he dives
on the fumble and it's like that wouldn't have happened
last year. I don't know how it wouldn't have happened
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last year. It's gonna happen this year. That's just the
way it goes sometimes in football.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah, I mean, it's just.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Watching that game you just saw, it's like, yeah, okay,
this year and this is not something I think almost
anyone would have said entering the season this year, the
Dallas Cowboys are a better team than the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah. Yeah, at this stage, absolutely they are.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
And we and we've mocked their defense for a large
part of this season. Most of us have not the offense,
but the defense. But in this case, it was just
like watching that yesterday, one of those teams just looked
like the better football team to me, and it was Dallas. Yes,
they had it a home and yes it was a
close game. We're not pouring complete dirt on the Chiefs.
They're not getting blown out in a lot of these games.
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But at the same time, it's just you go back
and you even look at their losses and some of
these losses are just like, yeah, I mean, you found
a way to lose. Yeah, And that's not a thing
you ever say about the Chiefs. You always say, well,
they pulled it out, they found a way, even if
they do it with magic or sorcery for Mahomes or
whatever like that. None of that stuff is working this year,
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Like somehow they don't have the ball at the end,
or even if they do, they're not able to get
the job done.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It's wild, man. I think we're in an alternate universe
this year. That would make more sense than the Chiefs
six and six with a healthy Mahomes. That's insanity right there.
But here we are, here, we are all right. He's
Jason Martin, I'm Brian Though. We're in for Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe here today. Hope your Black
Fridays off to a fantastic start. Coming up next, one
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of the NFL's brightest stars hasn't been close to himself lately.
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Speaker 5 (18:30):
I think it's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Man, I do these tire IRAQ reads Now, I was
back in the day, fired from tire rack nor. I
was absolutely true. Yes, I would work like and I
don't know, like summer vacations and stuff like that. I
actually I worked one summer vacation and then when I
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would come back into town, they would let me work.
Like we had a great relationship. And so I was
saving up some money to move to LA. This is
like the early two thousand. I was out of college.
I'm moving to LA saving up my money. And you
have to drive, well, one of my jobs, you have
to drive this little cart, you know, and you would
scan a label and you would go into this enormous
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warehouse and get the tires that people were about to
buy or we were about to ship off. And you're
supposed to hit this little button to go online. You know,
Like these aisles are very very small, and so you're
supposed to hit this button so you don't have to steer.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
It's just like auto steering.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
And I was at the end of it, wasn't you know,
like tires on both sides just tires on one side,
and I forgot that I was not online.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
I had not hit the button.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And when you're online, you're not even steering, right, so
you could just hit the gas and you're scanning your
next label without steering because you know it's steering for you.
What I forgot I wasn't online, And you know at
the it's just too late, right, you hear like you know,
like you're starting to like rub the edge of you know,
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the the aisle and it's too late, and all you
hear is but bom, you know, you run into something.
It's a whole thing. And so I was on probation
for a little bit. Then I can drive again, and
I made the same mistake again.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
J Martin. They were like, sorry, man, we have no choice.
We gotta let you go. So that's a true story.
I been fired by tyre reck. How about that?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
What expecting that story today? I have a feeling that
it's about to relate to something though.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
No, no, nothing, no, just that was just because you
did the read and it made you think of worse times.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
In your life. I mean it's like that's the only
job you've ever been fired from.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
No, I've been fired from I was a bank teller once.
Oh that's a whole story, man, that's a whole thing.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Okay. I'm not great in customer service jobs. Like you've
done enough shows with me, J Martin.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I could get a little bit surly depending on the situation.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I can get a little colliente from time to time.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll tell you the quick bank teller story. Man,
this might be too much back to back. You know,
people are going to be listening like, this guy's a maniac.
What's wrong with him? So I was a bank teller
right across from Notre Dame. By the way, I've got it.
I'll make this a good story and then like squeeze
in the firing at the end. The good story is,
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you know Chris Quinn, he used to play for the
Notre Dame basketball team. He's been an assistant for Eric
Spolstra forever. He's been a Miami Heat assistant for a
long long time. If you watch any Heat games, you'll
see like the dude that's like constantly right next to
Eric Spolster, that's Chris Quinn. So way back in the day.
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You know, this is like walking distance from Notre Dame's campus.
The Notre Dame Federal Credit Union, and Chris Quinn drove
to the drive through.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
This is my job.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I was like the bank teller of the drive through,
and he had a check for two hundred bucks and me,
this is just kind of like foreshadowing of how bad
I was at this job. I put five hundred dollars
into his account. I didn't read that's why you write
it out like five two hundred dollars. It looked like
a five and I'm like, a five hundred bucks. There
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we go, five hundred dollars into Chris Quinn's account.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
He came back.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Chris Quinn is the most honest man in America. He
came back and he's like, hey, man, I noticed I
have five hundred dollars in my account. It's only supposed
to be two hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Oh boy.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm like, wow, dude, that's really cool of you. Thank
you for letting me know. I probably would have been
in trouble for that. Little did I know it wouldn't
have mattered because I was about to get fired shortly
after that. So it was this whole thing where it's weird, Jason,
based on some of the jobs you've had.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
If people are face to face with you, they're not
gonna get crazy with you, as if like even if
you're at a drive through, they're not face to face
with you. I don't know what it is about like
those twenty steps where they get a little bit funkier
with you. I could see that time and time again,
and for whatever reason, like they made us ask. So
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this is way back when where people used to write
checks for cash. They would kind of balance their check
book that way. This seems totally foreign to most people
listening right now. You just go to the ATM, you
would draw money back, then you would write a check,
and you'd write it, you know, for cash. So it's
like I want to get two hundred bucks, you'd write
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a check and pass it through the you know, the.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
The drive through.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And so we had to ask, do you want this
coming out of your checking account? Because every now and then,
like a sweet old lady would write a checkaving account
out of her savings account, right yeah, And so we
had to ask, and this one guy, this one guy
was just like, yeah, yeah, I want it on my
check and checking account.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
What kind of question at you? It was like that.
He's like, why why would you ask? All I had
to do was tell him what I just told you,
and it's it's done. I don't know why. Again not good?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Not good in the banking industry. Your boy over here
and I don't know what I said. I was just like, oh,
you know, it's just check in or whatever whatever my
answer was. He was still very confused, and so he
beeps in again. It's like this this gong, you know,
it's like long when anybody beeps in, and he's like,
I mean, really, really, why would you ask what?
Speaker 5 (24:25):
That just doesn't make any sense. It's just kind of
a stupid question. Why why?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
So he's annoying me. So I'm like, all right, I'm
gonna kind of annoy him. You know, this again is
not great customer service, Jason. It's not what you want
from your employee. So I'm like, sir, if you can
just remain patient, you know, to try to get you
through this transaction. And so we're just kind of going
back and forth. Somehow it escalated. This was one of my.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Best lines in life. Jason. I hope you're mentally prepared
for this. All right, Yes, he.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Goes, you don't know who you're messing with. I don't
know how it escalated to that level, but it did.
And Jason and I looked at his check and I go, well,
I don't I don't remember the guy's name or anything
like this. It's like, uh, well, it looks like you're
Joe Thomas and you live at five six one three
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Round Tree Lane.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
So I think I do know who I'm messing with.
What a line? What?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
He didn't mean it literally? And I just gave it
back to him literally. How about that, Jason? That that's
that's where I went, Well, it's a good thing there
was sports for you to talk about, because it doesn't
seem like you dealing with people has worked out all
that well or not worked out that well. And then
the clincher. Okay, so I'm on the cusp right here,
j Mark. But the clincher he.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Was like, he's like, what's your name?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
And I go, I go Brian, no, n oe, go
in and complain about me. If your dumb ass can
remember that for five minutes.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Oh no, he remembered. Yeah, Betty did it.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
That was the end of my banking days. But I
have a very simple philosophy. Some people would disagree with
this Jason listen in sports radio. When I was starting off,
I worked with a couple of people that were not
easy to get along with, and I had to deal
with a lot of situations and I had to play
it cool because I knew this is what I wanted
to do this. I wanted this to be a career,
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So I can play it cool, I can let stuff slide.
I'm not going to be a maniac every time.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
But if this is just you know, this is a job.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I wasn't going to be in the banking industry, and
no shade to anybody who is, it just wasn't for me.
That wasn't going to be a career for me. I'm like,
I'm just not going to take that. You can't get
funky with me and something that's just a job, you
know what I mean. Like, I'm going to give it
right back to you, and if that's the end of
my banking career, so be it.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
But there you go. It's all right, what was banking's
loss to sports radios games? But how crazy is that?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Like you get fired from a gig and now you're
doing live reads for that company.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
That's kind of strange, isn't it. It's a little bit.
Uh yeah, we need a Notre dame Federal credit union
reads as well.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Then.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Man, I've been fired by fire from jobs too. It's
all do you have a story for us with that?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I don't want to get too deep into it. All
my mine were all just dumb.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Like.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
It wasn't like that I did something boneheaded or anything
like that. It was just like, I'll just be honest,
I lost one because of theft. Really, yeah, here, I
had a bit of I had a bit of an
issue for a little while there, just just being straight
up on us. But yeah, theft and breaking policy in
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order to do something I shouldn't have done in terms
of being able to sell an item when I shouldn't
have done it. Like every once in a while, I
bent the rule to my own gain, and it was
something that I felt like a lot of other people
were doing around me, so maybe it made it seem
more normal.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
But I blew some opportunities because of that. So yeah,
I mean I.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Was a bonehead knucklehead for a long time and now
I'm a Baptist minister, so turned.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Around full circle. That dude, that is great. I appreciate
you sharing that. Yeah, shout out to my mom. She
does an awesome job. She'll wake up, she'll hashtag support
the show. You know, she'll listen. And so she hits me.
I'm like, b what are you doing? Like really the
bank job?
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Really? You know, I'll be like Jason was stealing.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Stuff, you know, like my mild Now you've got Now
you've got somewhere to go.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Oh man, that's amazing. All right.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
So how about one of the NFL's brightest stars hasn't
been close to himself lately.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
That would be Lamar Jackson. Yeah. I kind of figured
that's where that where that teams was going.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
J Mart, what is going on with this guy? He
is too talented to look the way he looks. He
was drunk last night. The Ravens collectively were drunk last night.
The Ravens had five turnovers, and a lot of these
were because of Lamar Jackson. He lost two fumbles. He
lost a fumble near his own goal line, right, like
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just careless mistakes, and it came back to bite the
Ravens like errant passes. I know he's not fully healthy,
it's obvious watching him, but he's able to move around enough. Right,
he was able to scramble a few times where it's
not like he just can't take off and run, like
he literally can't move at all. He's healthy enough where
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his passes shouldn't be as consistently bad as they are.
There were a couple where he had his wide receiver.
I can't remember if it was Zay or if it
was Rashad Bateman, but he had a wide receiver wide open,
just a simple out route. Guy is wide open right
by the sideline. Passes nowhere near him. It's like that's
pitch and catch. It doesn't get any easier at the
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NFL level. And he's just missing throws like that. He
missed the screen pass yesterday. Like he's taking sacks. He
had a sack right before halftime, pushed him by a
field goal range. I don't know what's up with Lamar.
He looks horrible right now.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I mean, well, yeah he does, and as he goes,
so do the Ravens. And the Ravens as a just
general just have not looked right. We talked about the Chiefs, well,
this is the same thing. How do you come into
this season and we're sitting here at the end of
November and we're saying both the Chiefs and the Ravens
not only don't look the part of a champion, they
don't look the part of a playoff team. I mean,
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this Ravens team beat the Jets and it didn't even
look impressive.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
And now you look at what we saw last night,
and that's Burrow coming back from turf toe and being
out since Week two, and he throws forty six times
and has an eighty three passer rating. And you're Lamar Jackson.
You have multiple fumbles that you lose, both of you
rushed six times for twenty seven yards. The time of
possession of this game is almost two thirds to one. Like,
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nothing looked good for Baltimore. Then you asked Lamar after
the game and he refuses to say, this is the
worst stretch.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Of his career. I'm not gonna refuse to.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Say it, because this is the worst stretch I've seen
him play, like I'm gonna throw out when you're a
rookie and you first get in there for a first
few games and you're still trying to learn it since
Lamar became Lamar, this is the worst stretch of his career.
I don't think that that is being hyperbolic. In any way,
shape or form, and like there's just nothing right about it.
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He said his problem right now is consistency.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Agree with that, but he actually what's weird is it's
not other people failing around him. It's not Mark Andrews
dropping a pass in the end zone or all this
other kind of stuff you mentioned. I don't know if
it was Zay Flowers of Rashod Bateman a minute ago. Well,
Zay Flowers and Mashad Bateman yesterday combined for two catches
for six yards.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Rashad Bateman had one target, He had no receptions, no yards.
Dereck Henry had ten carries in this game for sixty yards.
But how do you get to the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
He's got ten carries, Chase Brown had fifteen and samaj
p Ryan had fourteen.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Wow, they had twenty nine between two of them.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
With Cincinnati, You've got a Hall of Fame running back
and he's got ten carries. And the reason why is
because they kept handing the football back to Cincinnati with
all of the turnovers. What is wrong with Baltimore? We
talked about the Chiefs. The Ravens are bad, like They're
just bad, like.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Steveense stinks and they could not do anything against them offensively,
and they kept on handing the football back to Joe
Burrow over and over.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Again, and they end up getting blown out on their
own home field.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
It's amazing, right, It's funny too, because you look at
the yards that the Ravens gained and you're like, well,
all right, it's not bad.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
It's just the turnovers.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
The turnovers were killing them, and the likely fumble through
the back of the end zone was a big deal.
I'll tell you what, man, nothing will make me see
red more in football than that rule.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Yeah, it's amazing. Can we agree on this meant rule?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It's the worst rule in sports, Like, I don't think
it's just the worst rule in football. I don't know
that there's a worst rule anywhere else. It's funny, Like
I put it out on X yesterday, I'm like, again,
the worst rule in all of sports, and it's amazing.
Every time there are people that will push back like, no, no,
it makes sense.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I mean, where would you spot the ball?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I don't know where the fumble occurred in the place right,
like where the fumble occurred?
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Very simple to get possession of the ball.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You have to recover the fumble, all right, So if
you're on defense and the guy just fumbles out of
the end zone, in my world, you don't get the
ball unless you recover the ball.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Like, why is this such a thing?
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I mean, it says the same thing on the sideline, Like,
I don't understand. Why would that penalty have to be
so much more punitive than it would be anywhere else
on the field just because it happened in the ends.
It just makes absolutely no sense, Like it is such
an over an overwrought punishment where it's just.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
It just seems comical to me. You could very easily
fix that.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I just I roll my eyes every time I see it.
I do too, man, I do too. I'm so glad
we're on the same side on this. I don't know
if I'm strong enough today. If you were one of
the many that's like oh no, no, and you really
break it down, it does make some sense. I don't
know that I could take that today. I'm in a
vulnerable state here, Jane Martin. I just shared stories about
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my multiple firings over the years. I couldn't take that.
So I'm glad that we're on the same side on
this one. But yeah, man, Ravens. Again, you look at
the playoff picture and unless they're able to, you know,
take down the Steelers, and they've got some head to
head matchups with the Steelers, I mean, and it starts
what let me see real fast, this starts next week
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they host the Steelers and then week eighteen they're.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
At the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
So that's probably gonna determine whether the Ravens get in,
whether the Steelers get in.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
But this is a six and six Ravens. How crazy
is it?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Talk about the six and six Chiefs, the six and
six Ravens.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
But here we are.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
It makes a little more sense because Lamar's been banged
up he missed multiple games, not the case with Mahomes.
That the Chiefs thing just blows my mind.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Yeah, I just I can't believe both of them are
in this state. I really can't. Especially when you look
at the AFC. It's not not again you don't see
that couple of teams. It's like, boy, they're just really good.
It's like, no, there's teams with good records. But there's
still a lot of questions about those teams and whether
or not they're ready for this moment whether they may
have their opportunity because we're gonna see some favorites that
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are going to miss the playoffs. Yeah, we absolutely are.
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doing as good of a job as they normally do.
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All right, there's.
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I think there's something common with the typical Studley teams
who weren't so studleigh this year, Jason, if you look
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at the Chiefs, it's been a common theme throughout the season.
I think if you look at the Eagles, think about
last week against the Cowboys, didn't have Lane Johnson, they
weren't able to run the ball right, Like the Chiefs
running game has not been very good consistently throughout this season,
and a lot of it is the offensive line. Like
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you're just not seeing typical dominant offense of line play,
certainly with Philly. Philly, they were running all over everybody
last year. It's not like Saquon Barkley lost his juice,
you know, It's like he is getting the same openings.
He's not running to daylight the same way that he
was able to last year. Jordan Milatta has regressed. They
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don't have Makai Beckton, who was just a bulldozer. Right
Lane Johnson's been banged up like that. Philly offensive line
isn't close to what it was last season, and there's
just a whole ripple effect with that right where you're
not not able to run the ball as effectively. The
play action passing game isn't as effective. There's more on
Jalen Hurt's shoulders, and you can see how limited he
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is as a quarterback when the running game isn't crushing it.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
And so I think that's a common thing.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
If you look at the Ravens, it's not as if
they can't run the ball, but they're not like there
have been many games where you're like, this is Derrick Henry,
Like what's going on? I think it's just the running
game collect actively, and a lot of times the offensive
line of these typical Studley teams is just not pushing
defenses around the way they used to.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
I mean, I think there's definitely some truth to that.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
I mean, it's hard for anybody, doesn't matter how great
a running back they are, to do much when there's
somebody already amidst tackling them the second they get the ball.
I mean, one thing is like once Derek Henry gets
to speed, good luck. That's been pretty much the story
throughout and he gets there very very quickly. But if
you can actually hit him in the backfield, you can
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usually stop him. And the same thing is true with Saquon.
Like Saquon there have been those moments where he's had
those little flare out passes to the side, and as
soon as he catches and turns upfield, he's tackled. And
he's elusive and he's strong and all this, but he's
still likely to go down.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
And so we've seen that consistently.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
And then I mean to that point about the Chiefs,
I mean, Kareem Hunt ran the ball pretty well with
check go down and all this, but I'm still kind
of surprised that Kansas City didn't go out and try
to get somebody right before the deadline.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
There was talk of that.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
They were talking about some guys like Singletary or some
dudes out there that they might have been able to
go to shore that up. And they're just they're very
one dimensional, like they're mahomes are bust, and I think
that that becomes a big time issue for them.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Man, I used to man Pachecko when he had like
pre injury, that dude had juice, you know, like he
was such a violent runner. He he really like supercharged
that Chiefs offense, and he hasn't been the same guy
in the running game collectively, hasn't been the same. I
think a lot of it has to do with the
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offensive line, not just Pachecko, but I hear you on that.
I think it's a big deal. All right, Hour two
coming up j Marts. Then let's go
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Good morning, Jason Martin, How are things? How was the Thanksgiving?
Everything good? Everything's good? Everything's good. Food was good, Football
was interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Definitely say that lot to jump into and of course
a lot to get to in the weekend, but solid
Thanksgiving all around for the Martin household.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
That's good, very good.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I spent a portion of my Thanksgiving with the neighborhood
cat Oreo. Have I given you any of the details
about how awesome.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Oreo is, Jane, No, but I'm gonna assume it's a
black cat.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's right, Okay, it's a neighborhood black cat. Oreo has
a home. Oreo has owners, but will routinely visit places
all around, like the apartment complex, including my place. So
Oreo was hanging out last night, you know, came by
for a late Thanksgiving dinner and then just hung out
and you know, we woke up early and we're doing
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the show now, right, so we're not ready to get
into it here.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
But that was awesome. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
But man, I thought your description was great, Like yesterday
was interesting.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yeah, Ei, there was a all three underdogs won.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
The Packers were a road underdog they beat the Lions.
Cowboys were a home underdog. They beat the Chiefs, and
the Bengals another road dog. They were eight point underdogs.
Joe Burrow comes back and they smack around the Ravens
thirty two to fourteen, Which are the three games with
those results going the way they did stood out to
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you most as far as the playoff picture significance going forward,
Was it the Chiefs going down for you?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I think Detroit and Green Bay are both still in
pretty good position. And then obviously you weren't. You were
only watching one playoff team. Potentially in the late game,
I might be more shocked by what I saw in
that game, or at least a little bit more shocked.
But I think that coming out of Kansas City and Dallas,
like it was very close to Kansas City having a
(03:10):
losing record right now, they had to make that comeback
to beat the Colts on Sunday and then yesterday against Dallas. Like,
the more I watched the Chiefs, and again, this is
why I haven't tried to make any sweeping just feelings
about what I think they are, because from week to
week it just you just don't know exactly. But the
more I watched them, the more I'm just like, man,
(03:31):
if you can't beat them this year, Like, what hope
is there for anybody in the AFC because this team
is so flawed.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Now.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
They didn't have Tray Smith yesterday. That's a big deal obviously,
But at the same time, like the Cowboys really kind
of pushed the envelope all day yesterday.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
They were the aggressors.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I thought Dak Prescott again was just excellent and has
been all year long. Pickens and Lamb both making big
time plays. Pickens making some kind of alien, just insane
play where he almost hurtled a guy after getting through
like three or four tackles near the right sideline, and
he might have scored on that play.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
But then they do go ahead and score.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
But the defense for Kansas City, it doesn't matter what
spac Nola's calling. That just they're not that great, at
least not against the top flight offense. And the more
I watch the offense.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
It's just you have these guys, you have Rashi Rice,
and you obviously you have the quarterback, and you have
some of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
But it just doesn't look the same. It looks like
I'm trying to think what I could really could compare
it to. It's like the Patriots the year you knew
they weren't gonna win it all, or a team like
that where they're still a good team, but by no
means are you gonna call them great like And there's
nothing about what the Chiefs are bringing on a week
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to week basis that is particularly impressive. And so I
just look at it him just like man AFC, You've
got to take advantage of this, like if you cannot
get to the super Bowl instead of this team, And
this team's gonna have some work to make the super Bowl.
I mean, Mahomes said it himself after the game, he said,
we got to win them all from now on out. Yeah,
I mean that's pretty much true because they're not going
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to win the division. And there's just there's something just
they look old. They just look like a team we've seen.
We've been here and done this before. But maybe we're
not going to the theater on the first weekend anymore.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's one of these deals where I'm watching the Chiefs
yesterday shoot themselves in the foot again and again, and
I'm watching them and I'm like, are they just mentally spent?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Where I was flipping channels the other day and there's
a I think it's a thirty for thirty on the Bills.
You know, Oh, he lost four straight Super Bowls and
the last super Bowl that they lost, they were they
might have had a lead at halftime against the Cowboys.
It was a close game. They were either like slightly
ahead or slightly behind. I can't remember, but like they
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interviewed former Bills player after former Bills player, Steve Tasker
was on that team, and he was like, at halftime,
I could tell we just had nothing left. We were
in the super Bowl for four straight years, and even
though that was a close game, we just had nothing
left to give. And I'm wondering if that sort of
applies to the Chiefs also, and some of it might.
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They've been to the AFC title game nine straight years.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, and they look like.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
A team that's sort ofly mentally just not focused to
the degree they need to be. But then I'll always
try to like check my work, you know, like your
math teacher always to check your work, right, So if
I come up with the theory, I try to test
it out to see if it really makes sense, and
halfway it does, in halfway it doesn't take. For instance,
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Rashie Rice had a huge drop yesterday, So the Chiefs
are down by seven points. They've got the ball near midfield.
It's third and eight, Like we're in the fourth quarter,
we're under ten minutes to play, and he just drops
a ball right over the middle, like easy first down,
easy catch.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Just dropped it.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Now, that's a guy who isn't like a ten year veteran.
You know, it's not like it's been so mentally taxing.
He only played four games last season because of injury.
He was suspended for the first six games this season.
This is his third year. Rashie Rice is not a
guy that's just like man, all these AFC title game appearances,
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it's so mentally taxing.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
He's not a guy like that.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That's a guy just dropping a ball in a key
moment and the Chiefs finding a way to hurt themselves.
So it's somewhat makes sense where they seem like a
team that's just I don't know, they've they've been redlining
for so long. You're seeing the effects of that, but
I don't think it applies to the entire team. Sometimes
you're just making big mistakes and key moments.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, Like it's just it's not crisp, it's not. Yeah,
the little things, the details that the Chiefs never used
to beat themselves doing they're doing. And I mean, eventually
this is gonna happen eventually, It's not gonna be year year.
Eventually somebody else is gonna get an opportunity. But they're
just not that good. And the other thing is they're
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not that fun to watch either. And I think this
may be started last year.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
But even though they do have.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Some dynamic players, Rice probably being near the top of
that list, like, I just don't have fun watching them.
It just I'd rather watch a lot of other teams
in this league than watch Kansas City right now.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And that even goes from Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I know he does some some special stuff from week
to week, but there's just like a very yep. I
have seen this a lot. Like you always talk about
how eventually somebody gets a look at some tape and
year two is not as good as year one. Well,
there's a lot of tape on Patrick Mahomes, there's a
lot of tape on this Kansas City offense. There's a
lot of tape overall on the Chiefs, and so it's
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just kind of like, man, I've seen my share of tape.
I want to see something else. I was more we're
entertained by four by the first game yesterday than the second.
But I was actually just watching Dallas, like man, I
did that segment yesterday where what have we been wrong about? Well,
one is I think Brian Schottenheimer has done a pretty
good job. I mean really he has, because we all
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sort of laughed off that higher. But not only have
they not fallen apart, they've kind of galvanized and you
know the moves that they made at the deadline there
to get a couple of guys on defense, I do
think that that helps him out.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
And ebra Flus has had a pretty good season as well.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
But this offense, man, this Dallas offense is just a
blast to watch.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Dak Prescott is just he's.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Playing some of the best football of his career and
you could see it because he's smiling, laughing and just
having a good time. He's living his best life right now.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
No, he is.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
He's played really really solid football, and they still strike
me as a team that I think he's the Burrow
of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yeah, I think this is very possible.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, where Burrow was sensational last season and they just
had an average record because the defense was so bad.
Now the Cowboys lately, their defense looks way way better.
They were getting just absolutely gashed and giving up big
play after big play earlier in the season, but they
haven't done that as of late, so they've been better.
They've gotten healthy yer, a couple of trades have helped out.
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Getting Quinn Williams is a big deal. But the thing
with the Chiefs, you know what's funny is have you
ever had a vehicle with transmission problems?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Of course, yeah, I think we all have at some point.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, I've definitely had a couple of vehicles over the years.
And that's what the Chiefs offense is like to me. Right,
if you're driving your car and whatever, you're in fourth
gear and you're trying to get up to fifth gear
and it just doesn't want to kick into fifth gear.
That's how the Chiefs offense is running this year. They're
like a car with transmission problems. And the thing that
is wild to me is they are a six and
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six football team with the completely healthy Patrick Mahomes. You
know what I mean, Like, if you're just explaining how
the Chiefs got to this point to someone who hasn't
been watching each and every game, if they're like, so as, like,
what's the deal. They're six and so what's going on
with them? The way I would describe it, I'd be like, Ah,
they're just I don't know, they're kind of sloppy. They've
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made big mistakes at times, and it's like, is that it.
It's like, yeah, that's kind of it. Mahomes has been
healthy all year. It would make more sense if Mahomes
got hurt in like week two and they've had their
backup this whole time or something, or they've had a
number of significant injuries and you could say, man, that
the injury bugs really hurt them. Man, that's why they're
six and six. You really can't say any of those things.
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It's just they're not making those plays when they need to,
or they're just doing a handful of just stupid things,
like just silly mistakes and their opponents take advantage of it.
It used to be the other way around, man, The
Chiefs never killed themselves like that, and they always pounced
on those opportunity. I don't know, man, they just don't
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have it this year. They do not have their fastball.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
No, they don't. And we're getting to the point where
there's not gonna be enough time for them to turn
it around. Yeah, their schedule, they've still got a couple
of pretty tough games on the horizon. They got one
more against Denver, for example, and they really have almost
no margin for error at this point. It's very weird
to see the graphic of playoffs for whatever game you're
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watching and see in the Hunt and then see the
Chiefs logo. Yeah, that's where we are right now. And
not just the Chief's logo. You're also seeing that about
the Ravens.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
And they need like big help.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
They're losing a tiebreaker to a number of teams just
to get into the playoffs. Like they are in major
trouble here. So I don't know that they're even sneaking
into this thing here. If you look at their remaining schedule,
it's like I could see that being a loss. That
could be another loss, Like next week they host the
Texans on Sunday Night, then they get the Chargers, and
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they get the Broncos on Christmas Day. Yeah, those are
not easy games that The easier games are at the
Titans at the Raiders. But man, could you see one
or two more losses with the Texans, Chargers and Broncos.
I could if you see one or two more losses, Man,
it's curtains, it's not gonna work out.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, I mean, I will say this, I think we
can survive this season without Kansas City making the playoffs.
I think as a football watching public will still be okay. Yeah,
I still think there's gonna be some good games, some
good things that happen, even if Kansas City doesn't make it.
Maybe it would be a refreshing change of pace. As
a matter of fact, because I kind of don't want
to see this version of the Chiefs get in. It's
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gonna be tempting to still want to pick them that
they do get in, because well, why would you not
based on everything we've seen in the past. The only
thing I will say in their favor is like, if
they do get in, I'm not looking at this AFC
and seeing a bunch of juggernauts here.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Bro I know. Yeah, it's such a weird year, man. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
If they somehow sneak in, they they'll be executing at
a much higher level. They have to to be able
to win these games, and you're gonna be like, eh,
it's kind of hard to take the Patriots even though
they have home field or the Frocos, you know, but
we'll cross that bridge if we get to it. I
just don't know that we're gonna get there, man, I don't.
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If I had to bet one way or the other today,
I would bet on the Chiefs not making the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
So what I mean, I think they're under fifty percent chance.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Now I think it's like a forty seven somewhere in
that percent chance. And like a lot of teams, you
see that and you're like, yeah, they're probably not gonna
make it.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
But with the Chiefs say yeah, but it's Mahomes, it's
Andy Reid. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But eventually, like you've played enough games to where it
doesn't matter who it is.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
It's just not your year. Yeah, I know it.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
It's like when they're winning all fifteen of their one
score games last season and now they're what one in six,
I want to say, in one games.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
The play yesterday is George Pickens trying to spin around
and make a play gain a first down any fumbles
and there are like four Chiefs just like circling the football,
and out of nowhere, here comes Turpin and he dives
on the fumble and it's like that wouldn't have happened
last year. I don't know how it wouldn't have happened
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last year. It's gonna happen this year. That's just the
way it goes sometimes in football.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah, I mean, it's just.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Watching that game you just saw, it's like, yeah, okay,
this year and this is not something I think almost
anyone would have said entering the season this year, the
Dallas Cowboys are a better team than the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah. Yeah, at this stage, absolutely they are.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
And we and we've mocked their defense for a large
part of this season. Most of us have not the offense,
but the defense. But in this case, it was just
like watching that yesterday, one of those teams just looked
like the better football team to me, and it was Dallas. Yes,
they had it a home and yes it was a
close game. We're not pouring complete dirt on the Chiefs.
They're not getting blown out in a lot of these games.
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But at the same time, it's just you go back
and you even look at their losses and some of
these losses are just like, yeah, I mean, you found
a way to lose. Yeah, And that's not a thing
you ever say about the Chiefs. You always say, well,
they pulled it out, they found a way, even if
they do it with magic or sorcery for Mahomes or
whatever like that. None of that stuff is working this year,
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Like somehow they don't have the ball at the end,
or even if they do, they're not able to get
the job done.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It's wild, man. I think we're in an alternate universe
this year. That would make more sense than the Chiefs
six and six with a healthy Mahomes. That's insanity right there.
But here we are, here, we are all right. He's
Jason Martin, I'm Brian Though. We're in for Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe here today. Hope your Black
Fridays off to a fantastic start. Coming up next, one
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of the NFL's brightest stars hasn't been close to himself lately.
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Speaker 3 (17:48):
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Sometimes I overshare Jane Martin, this might be like oversharing
one oh one.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I think it's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Man, I do these tire IRAQ reads Now, I was
back in the day, fired from tire rack nor. I
was absolutely true. Yes, I would work like and I
don't know, like summer vacations and stuff like that. I
actually I worked one summer vacation and then when I
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would come back into town, they would let me work.
Like we had a great relationship. And so I was
saving up some money to move to LA. This is
like the early two thousand. I was out of college.
I'm moving to LA saving up my money. And you
have to drive, well, one of my jobs, you have
to drive this little cart, you know, and you would
scan a label and you would go into this enormous
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warehouse and get the tires that people were about to
buy or we were about to ship off. And you're
supposed to hit this little button to go online. You know,
Like these aisles are very very small, and so you're
supposed to hit this button so you don't have to steer.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
It's just like auto steering.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
And I was at the end of it, wasn't you know,
like tires on both sides just tires on one side,
and I forgot that I was not online.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
I had not hit the button.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And when you're online, you're not even steering, right, so
you could just hit the gas and you're scanning your
next label without steering because you know it's steering for you.
What I forgot I wasn't online, And you know at
the it's just too late, right, you hear like you know,
like you're starting to like rub the edge of you know,
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the the aisle and it's too late, and all you
hear is but bom, you know, you run into something.
It's a whole thing. And so I was on probation
for a little bit. Then I can drive again, and
I made the same mistake again.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
J Martin. They were like, sorry, man, we have no choice.
We gotta let you go. So that's a true story.
I been fired by tyre reck. How about that?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
What expecting that story today? I have a feeling that
it's about to relate to something though.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
No, no, nothing, no, just that was just because you
did the read and it made you think of worse times.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
In your life. I mean it's like that's the only
job you've ever been fired from.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
No, I've been fired from I was a bank teller once.
Oh that's a whole story, man, that's a whole thing.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Okay. I'm not great in customer service jobs. Like you've
done enough shows with me, J Martin.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I could get a little bit surly depending on the situation.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I can get a little colliente from time to time.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll tell you the quick bank teller story. Man,
this might be too much back to back. You know,
people are going to be listening like, this guy's a maniac.
What's wrong with him? So I was a bank teller
right across from Notre Dame. By the way, I've got it.
I'll make this a good story and then like squeeze
in the firing at the end. The good story is,
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you know Chris Quinn, he used to play for the
Notre Dame basketball team. He's been an assistant for Eric
Spolstra forever. He's been a Miami Heat assistant for a
long long time. If you watch any Heat games, you'll
see like the dude that's like constantly right next to
Eric Spolster, that's Chris Quinn. So way back in the day.
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You know, this is like walking distance from Notre Dame's campus.
The Notre Dame Federal Credit Union, and Chris Quinn drove
to the drive through.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
This is my job.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I was like the bank teller of the drive through,
and he had a check for two hundred bucks and me,
this is just kind of like foreshadowing of how bad
I was at this job. I put five hundred dollars
into his account. I didn't read that's why you write
it out like five two hundred dollars. It looked like
a five and I'm like, a five hundred bucks. There
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we go, five hundred dollars into Chris Quinn's account.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
He came back.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Chris Quinn is the most honest man in America. He
came back and he's like, hey, man, I noticed I
have five hundred dollars in my account. It's only supposed
to be two hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Oh boy.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm like, wow, dude, that's really cool of you. Thank
you for letting me know. I probably would have been
in trouble for that. Little did I know it wouldn't
have mattered because I was about to get fired shortly
after that. So it was this whole thing where it's weird, Jason,
based on some of the jobs you've had.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
If people are face to face with you, they're not
gonna get crazy with you, as if like even if
you're at a drive through, they're not face to face
with you. I don't know what it is about like
those twenty steps where they get a little bit funkier
with you. I could see that time and time again,
and for whatever reason, like they made us ask. So
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this is way back when where people used to write
checks for cash. They would kind of balance their check
book that way. This seems totally foreign to most people
listening right now. You just go to the ATM, you
would draw money back, then you would write a check,
and you'd write it, you know, for cash. So it's
like I want to get two hundred bucks, you'd write
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a check and pass it through the you know, the.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
The drive through.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And so we had to ask, do you want this
coming out of your checking account? Because every now and then,
like a sweet old lady would write a checkaving account
out of her savings account, right yeah, And so we
had to ask, and this one guy, this one guy
was just like, yeah, yeah, I want it on my
check and checking account.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
What kind of question at you? It was like that.
He's like, why why would you ask? All I had
to do was tell him what I just told you,
and it's it's done. I don't know why. Again not good?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Not good in the banking industry. Your boy over here
and I don't know what I said. I was just like, oh,
you know, it's just check in or whatever whatever my
answer was. He was still very confused, and so he
beeps in again. It's like this this gong, you know,
it's like long when anybody beeps in, and he's like,
I mean, really, really, why would you ask what?
Speaker 5 (24:25):
That just doesn't make any sense. It's just kind of
a stupid question. Why why?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
So he's annoying me. So I'm like, all right, I'm
gonna kind of annoy him. You know, this again is
not great customer service, Jason. It's not what you want
from your employee. So I'm like, sir, if you can
just remain patient, you know, to try to get you
through this transaction. And so we're just kind of going
back and forth. Somehow it escalated. This was one of my.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Best lines in life. Jason. I hope you're mentally prepared
for this. All right, Yes, he.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Goes, you don't know who you're messing with. I don't
know how it escalated to that level, but it did.
And Jason and I looked at his check and I go, well,
I don't I don't remember the guy's name or anything
like this. It's like, uh, well, it looks like you're
Joe Thomas and you live at five six one three
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Round Tree Lane.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
So I think I do know who I'm messing with.
What a line? What?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
He didn't mean it literally? And I just gave it
back to him literally. How about that, Jason? That that's
that's where I went, Well, it's a good thing there
was sports for you to talk about, because it doesn't
seem like you dealing with people has worked out all
that well or not worked out that well. And then
the clincher. Okay, so I'm on the cusp right here,
j Mark. But the clincher he.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Was like, he's like, what's your name?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
And I go, I go Brian, no, n oe, go
in and complain about me. If your dumb ass can
remember that for five minutes.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Oh no, he remembered. Yeah, Betty did it.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
That was the end of my banking days. But I
have a very simple philosophy. Some people would disagree with
this Jason listen in sports radio. When I was starting off,
I worked with a couple of people that were not
easy to get along with, and I had to deal
with a lot of situations and I had to play
it cool because I knew this is what I wanted
to do this. I wanted this to be a career,
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So I can play it cool, I can let stuff slide.
I'm not going to be a maniac every time.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
But if this is just you know, this is a job.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I wasn't going to be in the banking industry, and
no shade to anybody who is, it just wasn't for me.
That wasn't going to be a career for me. I'm like,
I'm just not going to take that. You can't get
funky with me and something that's just a job, you
know what I mean. Like, I'm going to give it
right back to you, and if that's the end of
my banking career, so be it.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
But there you go. It's all right, what was banking's
loss to sports radios games? But how crazy is that?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Like you get fired from a gig and now you're
doing live reads for that company.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
That's kind of strange, isn't it. It's a little bit.
Uh yeah, we need a Notre dame Federal credit union
reads as well.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Then.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Man, I've been fired by fire from jobs too. It's
all do you have a story for us with that?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I don't want to get too deep into it. All
my mine were all just dumb.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Like.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
It wasn't like that I did something boneheaded or anything
like that. It was just like, I'll just be honest,
I lost one because of theft. Really, yeah, here, I
had a bit of I had a bit of an
issue for a little while there, just just being straight
up on us. But yeah, theft and breaking policy in
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order to do something I shouldn't have done in terms
of being able to sell an item when I shouldn't
have done it. Like every once in a while, I
bent the rule to my own gain, and it was
something that I felt like a lot of other people
were doing around me, so maybe it made it seem
more normal.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
But I blew some opportunities because of that. So yeah,
I mean I.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Was a bonehead knucklehead for a long time and now
I'm a Baptist minister, so turned.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Around full circle. That dude, that is great. I appreciate
you sharing that. Yeah, shout out to my mom. She
does an awesome job. She'll wake up, she'll hashtag support
the show. You know, she'll listen. And so she hits me.
I'm like, b what are you doing? Like really the
bank job?
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Really? You know, I'll be like Jason was stealing.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Stuff, you know, like my mild Now you've got Now
you've got somewhere to go.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Oh man, that's amazing. All right.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
So how about one of the NFL's brightest stars hasn't
been close to himself lately.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
That would be Lamar Jackson. Yeah. I kind of figured
that's where that where that teams was going.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
J Mart, what is going on with this guy? He
is too talented to look the way he looks. He
was drunk last night. The Ravens collectively were drunk last night.
The Ravens had five turnovers, and a lot of these
were because of Lamar Jackson. He lost two fumbles. He
lost a fumble near his own goal line, right, like
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just careless mistakes, and it came back to bite the
Ravens like errant passes. I know he's not fully healthy,
it's obvious watching him, but he's able to move around enough. Right,
he was able to scramble a few times where it's
not like he just can't take off and run, like
he literally can't move at all. He's healthy enough where
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his passes shouldn't be as consistently bad as they are.
There were a couple where he had his wide receiver.
I can't remember if it was Zay or if it
was Rashad Bateman, but he had a wide receiver wide open,
just a simple out route. Guy is wide open right
by the sideline. Passes nowhere near him. It's like that's
pitch and catch. It doesn't get any easier at the
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NFL level. And he's just missing throws like that. He
missed the screen pass yesterday. Like he's taking sacks. He
had a sack right before halftime, pushed him by a
field goal range. I don't know what's up with Lamar.
He looks horrible right now.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I mean, well, yeah he does, and as he goes,
so do the Ravens. And the Ravens as a just
general just have not looked right. We talked about the Chiefs, well,
this is the same thing. How do you come into
this season and we're sitting here at the end of
November and we're saying both the Chiefs and the Ravens
not only don't look the part of a champion, they
don't look the part of a playoff team. I mean,
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this Ravens team beat the Jets and it didn't even
look impressive.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
And now you look at what we saw last night,
and that's Burrow coming back from turf toe and being
out since Week two, and he throws forty six times
and has an eighty three passer rating. And you're Lamar Jackson.
You have multiple fumbles that you lose, both of you
rushed six times for twenty seven yards. The time of
possession of this game is almost two thirds to one. Like,
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nothing looked good for Baltimore. Then you asked Lamar after
the game and he refuses to say, this is the
worst stretch.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Of his career. I'm not gonna refuse to.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Say it, because this is the worst stretch I've seen
him play, like I'm gonna throw out when you're a
rookie and you first get in there for a first
few games and you're still trying to learn it since
Lamar became Lamar, this is the worst stretch of his career.
I don't think that that is being hyperbolic. In any way,
shape or form, and like there's just nothing right about it.
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He said his problem right now is consistency.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Agree with that, but he actually what's weird is it's
not other people failing around him. It's not Mark Andrews
dropping a pass in the end zone or all this
other kind of stuff you mentioned. I don't know if
it was Zay Flowers of Rashod Bateman a minute ago. Well,
Zay Flowers and Mashad Bateman yesterday combined for two catches
for six yards.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Rashad Bateman had one target, He had no receptions, no yards.
Dereck Henry had ten carries in this game for sixty yards.
But how do you get to the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
He's got ten carries, Chase Brown had fifteen and samaj
p Ryan had fourteen.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Wow, they had twenty nine between two of them.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
With Cincinnati, You've got a Hall of Fame running back
and he's got ten carries. And the reason why is
because they kept handing the football back to Cincinnati with
all of the turnovers. What is wrong with Baltimore? We
talked about the Chiefs. The Ravens are bad, like They're
just bad, like.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Steveense stinks and they could not do anything against them offensively,
and they kept on handing the football back to Joe
Burrow over and over.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Again, and they end up getting blown out on their
own home field.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
It's amazing, right, It's funny too, because you look at
the yards that the Ravens gained and you're like, well,
all right, it's not bad.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
It's just the turnovers.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
The turnovers were killing them, and the likely fumble through
the back of the end zone was a big deal.
I'll tell you what, man, nothing will make me see
red more in football than that rule.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Yeah, it's amazing. Can we agree on this meant rule?
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It's the worst rule in sports, Like, I don't think
it's just the worst rule in football. I don't know
that there's a worst rule anywhere else. It's funny, Like
I put it out on X yesterday, I'm like, again,
the worst rule in all of sports, and it's amazing.
Every time there are people that will push back like, no, no,
it makes sense.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I mean, where would you spot the ball?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I don't know where the fumble occurred in the place right,
like where the fumble occurred?
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Very simple to get possession of the ball.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You have to recover the fumble, all right, So if
you're on defense and the guy just fumbles out of
the end zone, in my world, you don't get the
ball unless you recover the ball.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Like, why is this such a thing?
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I mean, it says the same thing on the sideline, Like,
I don't understand. Why would that penalty have to be
so much more punitive than it would be anywhere else
on the field just because it happened in the ends.
It just makes absolutely no sense, Like it is such
an over an overwrought punishment where it's just.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
It just seems comical to me. You could very easily
fix that.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I just I roll my eyes every time I see it.
I do too, man, I do too. I'm so glad
we're on the same side on this. I don't know
if I'm strong enough today. If you were one of
the many that's like oh no, no, and you really
break it down, it does make some sense. I don't
know that I could take that today. I'm in a
vulnerable state here, Jane Martin. I just shared stories about
(34:07):
my multiple firings over the years. I couldn't take that.
So I'm glad that we're on the same side on
this one. But yeah, man, Ravens. Again, you look at
the playoff picture and unless they're able to, you know,
take down the Steelers, and they've got some head to
head matchups with the Steelers, I mean, and it starts
what let me see real fast, this starts next week
(34:29):
they host the Steelers and then week eighteen they're.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
At the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
So that's probably gonna determine whether the Ravens get in,
whether the Steelers get in.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
But this is a six and six Ravens. How crazy
is it?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Talk about the six and six Chiefs, the six and
six Ravens.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
But here we are.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
It makes a little more sense because Lamar's been banged
up he missed multiple games, not the case with Mahomes.
That the Chiefs thing just blows my mind.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Yeah, I just I can't believe both of them are
in this state. I really can't. Especially when you look
at the AFC. It's not not again you don't see
that couple of teams. It's like, boy, they're just really good.
It's like, no, there's teams with good records. But there's
still a lot of questions about those teams and whether
or not they're ready for this moment whether they may
have their opportunity because we're gonna see some favorites that
(35:16):
are going to miss the playoffs. Yeah, we absolutely are.
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Coming up next, I think there is a very common
thread of what the normal stud NFL teams are not
doing as good of a job as they normally do.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
All right, there's.
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I think there's something common with the typical Studley teams
who weren't so studleigh this year, Jason, if you look
(37:36):
at the Chiefs, it's been a common theme throughout the season.
I think if you look at the Eagles, think about
last week against the Cowboys, didn't have Lane Johnson, they
weren't able to run the ball right, Like the Chiefs
running game has not been very good consistently throughout this season,
and a lot of it is the offensive line. Like
(37:56):
you're just not seeing typical dominant offense of line play,
certainly with Philly. Philly, they were running all over everybody
last year. It's not like Saquon Barkley lost his juice,
you know, It's like he is getting the same openings.
He's not running to daylight the same way that he
was able to last year. Jordan Milatta has regressed. They
(38:19):
don't have Makai Beckton, who was just a bulldozer. Right
Lane Johnson's been banged up like that. Philly offensive line
isn't close to what it was last season, and there's
just a whole ripple effect with that right where you're
not not able to run the ball as effectively. The
play action passing game isn't as effective. There's more on
Jalen Hurt's shoulders, and you can see how limited he
(38:43):
is as a quarterback when the running game isn't crushing it.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
And so I think that's a common thing.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
If you look at the Ravens, it's not as if
they can't run the ball, but they're not like there
have been many games where you're like, this is Derrick Henry,
Like what's going on? I think it's just the running
game collect actively, and a lot of times the offensive
line of these typical Studley teams is just not pushing
defenses around the way they used to.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
I mean, I think there's definitely some truth to that.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
I mean, it's hard for anybody, doesn't matter how great
a running back they are, to do much when there's
somebody already amidst tackling them the second they get the ball.
I mean, one thing is like once Derek Henry gets
to speed, good luck. That's been pretty much the story
throughout and he gets there very very quickly. But if
you can actually hit him in the backfield, you can
(39:34):
usually stop him. And the same thing is true with Saquon.
Like Saquon there have been those moments where he's had
those little flare out passes to the side, and as
soon as he catches and turns upfield, he's tackled. And
he's elusive and he's strong and all this, but he's
still likely to go down.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
And so we've seen that consistently.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
And then I mean to that point about the Chiefs,
I mean, Kareem Hunt ran the ball pretty well with
check go down and all this, but I'm still kind
of surprised that Kansas City didn't go out and try
to get somebody right before the deadline.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
There was talk of that.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
They were talking about some guys like Singletary or some
dudes out there that they might have been able to
go to shore that up. And they're just they're very
one dimensional, like they're mahomes are bust, and I think
that that becomes a big time issue for them.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Man, I used to man Pachecko when he had like
pre injury, that dude had juice, you know, like he
was such a violent runner. He he really like supercharged
that Chiefs offense, and he hasn't been the same guy
in the running game collectively, hasn't been the same. I
think a lot of it has to do with the
(40:45):
offensive line, not just Pachecko, but I hear you on that.
I think it's a big deal. All right, Hour two
coming up j Marts. Then let's go
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