December 9, 2025 • 43 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, and LaVar Arrington kick things off by breaking down the Monday night NFL matchup between the Eagles and the Chargers, which ended with the Chargers pulling out a win in an overtime battle. Next, they react to Notre Dame Athletic Director Pete Bevacqua’s comments about being left out of the College Football Playoff and his thoughts on the ACC. They also discuss the Broncos–Raiders controversial finish in another edition of “In Case You Missed It.” Tune in for all that and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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up on this Tuesday edition. Of course, we're gonna have
the usuals, who've got in case you missed it, the Leftovers,
and Dean Blandido's gonna stop by. We're also gonna find
out about these sights and sounds in Las Vegas. We
got var we got Q in Sin City, and they
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got Ladies of the Night walking around. They got all
sorts of stories from their shenanigans there while in Las Vegas.
We'll get into that for you here. Throughout the course
of the show. We're gonna look back on Monday Night football.
Big win for the Chargers, but what the hell's going
on in Philadelphia with the Eagles. Shardor Sanders is gonna
get his opportunity, and apparently the Indianapolis Colts are gonna
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to twenty twenty to try and fix their quarterback situation.
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Speaker 3 (01:35):
How is Sin City?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's over?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Man, Yeah, it's over. Yeah, it's it's another team. You
could put dirt on them, man, yeah, they number one
in the East.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
But it's over, man, var Can we give a big
shout on thanks to Amanda Habrowski.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, Hebrowski, Hebrowski. Amanda, She's nope, she got us all
set up. She gotta set up. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
She was real cool too, like you know, like I
was panicking my uber didn't show up.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It canceled on me twice.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Then I finally got into the uber and then this
guy drops me off in this random spot and I
was and I smelled the random smell that went with
the random spot, and then I saw random people standing
around and I was like, this is all too random
for me. So but we're we're here. I made it.
I made it in here.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So did the smell? Did you smell?
Speaker 6 (02:25):
It?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
New Orleans a little bit, but worse. It smelled like
New Orleans the.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Worst wretched bro a constant funk in the street.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It was like mix.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Mixed a humidity heroine.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
And just bold and contank. It did smell like some
type of a substance smell of dank.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Mixed in there. It was. That's all I know. Whatever
it smelled like, it was bad.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So what is the the occasion in Vegas? I know it's.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
The Hall of Fame, right, college football Hall of Fame?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah, irving up on the big screen in the center
of town too. Man, I just saw Al Wilson. Man
that that warn't my heart to like, that's a man. Yeah,
It's like two figures of college football linebacker, well three,
maybe the boss Al Wilson and and uh Fitzgerald. Those
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are the three. Like if you say, what does a
linebacker look like? Those are three dudes. I say, you
know what, when you think about Derek Thomas, I throw
Derek Thomas in on two and and and and Derek
Derek Brooks and that's it. I'm gonna stop right there.
I would stop right there. But Al Wilson, that's a
grown ass man. That's a bad man, Brom. I'm only
(03:57):
talking about Al Wilson, you know.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
So we're here for the NFF National Football Foundation at
the Hall of Fame dinner and it's the Campbell Trophy Award.
I believe gets it gets at this dinner, it gets
handed out, it gets awarded to the recipient.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So it's a lot of good stuff, man.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
And today there are some good festivities going on. So
it's a cool little doe.
Speaker 8 (04:20):
Now.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
We were at a urban had a little private party
last night. So I got to see some former coaches guys.
That was J Patno there not to see Jo there.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
By the way, he's got a book come out, How
to Be a Successful eight Coach.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
At I did not see, did not see J Pitterno.
Actually there didn't seem to be anyone for Penn State.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
For that matter.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
But there was a good amount of coaches who you
know I I had known of, I'd coached me, or
it was around it. It was just a really cool
time seeing you know, other guys too that had played
for Urban.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That was nice.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
I do want to go back to a scenario that
presented itself this morning. So the elevated tour opens to
go down. There is what appears to be a Lady of.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
The night, all right, and I am I kind of.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
The door's open.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I look, I'm like, oh gosh, uh, do I just
wait to the next one or do I? I mean,
not that we were in that big of a hurry,
but I'm like, I don't want to wait really till
the next one, because then I'm you know, who knows whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Oh yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Went on, I went on, you went on, come on
into the dark sad.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
She had already been worn out. It was the end
of her ship.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Then her money, They already already took her, her spins, They gloral.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
She walked, She.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Walked out of the elevator, and I was just like,
I'm gonna let there be a decent ga sweet us
so no one and there was what's happened a decent
gap right there?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Certainly was that wouldn't she the Eagles and the Chargers.
Wasn't the only game football being played.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
I don't know who got into her, but she looks
like she had just ridden horseback.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
And now you know what that dank was.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But but my question is should I have just waited
and just be like, I'm good?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
If it looked that bad, I would I would have
like turned away, like I would start tying my shoe
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'd have hit my knee and start tying.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Go ahead, No, you carry cash, You're fine? Yeah, listen,
can be arranged.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Need to do that? Look out like that. You could
tap these days, you don't even need.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Bring tapping the tap.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, you could tap a whole lot of tap. Yeah,
a whole lot tapping. Just hold your phone up. Oh
my god, they had to take it. Bam. That's what
I hear. That's that's the word on the street.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
It's just super Bowl here were like every morning we
get up, it's someone's last night.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It's still our next day. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Still somebody I saw a few of them. They they
I'm telling you they look suspicious.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Man. One of them said, I've never been to a
strip club.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I looked at them, I said, you lie in my head,
though I ain't say it out loud in my because
you're looking for trouble. If you say it out loud,
you joined somebody else's conversation at two in the morning. Uh,
But I said it in my head, like, you ain't
never been to a strip club. Please, it's almost three
am in Vegas, like, and you're talking to your team
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that's with you outside in this funky ass smell, acting
like it don't stink, right, and.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
You guys are right, are you guys nowhere into the strip?
Speaker 10 (07:45):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Anywhere near the strip?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
What's the Uh? Yeah, this area we're at those kind
of it's a busy area. I feel like Loreno would
like it.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I've been there.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
It's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
See there you go. You been to this?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, the one in Vegas off the off what's it called?
Speaker 11 (08:02):
Yeah, right above the right above the Sheriff's office.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Been there a couple of times, that's correct.
Speaker 11 (08:06):
They have snacks on the little table. And then I
took a pock like, I filled up my pockets and
I went outside and I fed the homeless people. And
there was also a lady of the streets on the sidewalk,
but she was spread eagle and uh yeah she was.
She was petting the cat on the sidewalk.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Man, it was crazy. It was crazy, Okay. I mean
talk about getting business man.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Talk about soliciting for business, right, that's one form of advertisement,
guerrilla marketing.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Right.
Speaker 11 (08:45):
Anyways, it's a nice studio though.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
It is a nice studio.
Speaker 11 (08:49):
I love the patio that they have that you can
go sit out there.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
All right, so you had the full experience. I just came, man,
we have no idea.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
You know, we have a great host and we're here
doing Radiowski.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah. Good polish young lady from Detroit. Good polish lady.
I'm proud of it from Detroit. Yeah. I mean if
I was asking about Parogi's and stuff, yeah, some get
a little haushki. Seriously.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Anyways, all these things were very interesting to discuss because
last night this game wasn't how about that, or maybe
it was.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's done though.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
It's just they threw Philly just looks miserable, like it's
just I've never seen a more miserable Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
In my life, and even are you going to be
first place in your division and look like that.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's just the last few weeks.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And look, I know Jalen Hurts had a couple of
bad throws, but he also didn't get some help. Like
there were there were some drops, there was some you know,
A J. Brown had a couple of missed opportunities there.
Like just I know, Jalen Hurts is the guy that
seemingly gets all the blame because nobody there likes him.
But that wasn't all on Jalen Hurts. Like they had
plenty of opportunities and they just gaged that game away
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and it's son of a bitch. We had Eagles minus
two and a half of the week, Yeah we did,
because you know, they were going to go for the wind.
They were not going to try and tie the game
at overtime. They were going to go for the win.
They didn't care about the remaining time on the clock.
They were going to try and ice that game. And
of course we lost there. It's too bad. It's really frustrating.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's very disappointing.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah, well man, that doesn't make for a good week
for for you.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
He did for LaVar and I but.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You Justin Herbert though, Man, that guy got his ass beat.
He took a beating last night and the worst part
was he couldn't land on his wrist, so he just
kept landing on his elbow, so it's almost like deformed.
He's got like bleeding everywhere. But it just seemed like
two different worlds because those guys love Herbert, like you
(10:59):
hear them talk about him afterwards, listen to uh Jim
Harbaugh talk about Justin Herbert afterwards, and just watching him felt.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Like a movie almost that he couldn't even believe.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And Justin Herbert he's a superhero. He is a competitive maniac.
Speaker 9 (11:16):
I mean he was even stiff arming guys, you know,
with a broken hand, and he had surgery a week ago,
and out here tonight, it's it's it felt like like
I was in a movie. Like we were in a
movie where you know the quarterback's doings, and it's like
you get to the point where we.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Go, okay, this is getting a little unrealistic. You know,
That's what it felt like to me.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
So he's uh, thanks through four hundred and thirty nine
yards one touchdown one I and t got sacked seven
times what superhero he was watching? But you know what, though,
what's so, what's who? You know Batman does and so
does Superman. They get their hands beat a lot. I
don't know if people really pay attention to the fact
(12:01):
that superheroes really take real ass kickings, like bang, beat
the hell out of Batman in one movie.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
It's kind of like a Jean Claude Van Damn movie.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, and then beat and he's like, and then once
he gets his ass, beat a whole lot, and then
he starts to win. Then he goes and does a
split in his training, and then he comes back and
then he wins.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I think two things canna be true.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
It was a heroic performance in the sense of what
he was playing through. I mean, I know it's not
his throwing hand, but it was. It's still pretty badass.
Like he's he already said he's gonna play before they
even got surgery. He gets surgery, He's like, well, now
I got to I've already made the declaration and they
got they got their job done.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I mean, maybe in part the Hurts did not play well.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
It keeps saying not that's not the formula first success
for them, Like I just I don't think you can
put the ball in his hands that much consistently and
he's gonna be to win games, they've got to run
the football, so be closer to a fifty to fifty
split or leieve a little greater than that.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And I just this offense is lost. The Eagles offense
has no idea what their identity is.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
They don't hang their hat on Saquon Barkley like they
showed it. Even Jalen hurts as part of the rushing
its hag. And then they can't find consistency in the
passing game. And shockingly usually Jalen's a really good decision
maker and it wasn't all on him, but I mean,
come on, man, you can't turn the football over what
five times?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
And you gotta score. Like it's not enough to say, oh,
you protected the ball or oh you know this is
you know, not all his fault because guys are drunk.
You gotta score points, man, Like, in the end, you
got to figure out how the best way it is
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to go about scoring points. And I'd say that belonged,
that distinction belonged to both teams.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You can't take a look at this game.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Last night and sit there and say, wow, these are
two of the more elite teams. If you look by record,
these are some really good teams. One is in the
lead in the NFC East, One is in close.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
To the lead. Are they in the lead in the
AFC West?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I think they're what battling with the Broncos and two
games two games back from the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Okay, with nine wins, but that's like they're the five
seed right now, so they would get the lowest ranked
division winner on them with nine wins, So it's not
this is not a bad team, but they just don't
look good on offense. And as much as I like
Herbert and I love the heroicism of what he did,
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it's not enough.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It's just when when you.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Get to the playoffs, that style of football for both teams,
that brand of football will not be enough. It will
be a short lived visit and it will be a
abrupt ending to a playoff run. If both of these
teams can't figure out what they have going on at
offense and more specifically, what they have going on with
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their quarterbacks. I'll say for both, one team won and
one team lost, but both teams stunk their way into
an overtime, and God blessed. Give the Eagles credit. They
came back and found a way to put a touchdown
up later in the game. But they stink. You know,
the defenses played fairly well. These are too stink. These
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two teams have good defenses, They play good defenses, and
their defenses are carrying them and they got to figure
out what they're going to do on offense.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, I Philly.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It's weird how this mirrors the season after they went
to the Super Bowl a couple of years ago, to
where they went to the Super Bowl. They lose in overtime,
great game, Jalen Hurts was awesome. They lose both coordinators.
They come back the next year and they start off
hot and next thing you know, it's just this downward
(16:05):
slide in the back half of the season. There's all
this drama. They get into the postseason and they're a
one and done and it just it looks exactly like that.
They've now lost three straight. They're not getting along offenses
out of sync. They're probably going to fire their coordinator
again in the offseason. Like just it's like there there
is no in between with them. It's either they're going
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to Super Bowls or everybody hates each other. There's there's
literally no one between. And meanwhile, the Chargers will probably
go to the playoffs, and if they get the lowest
ranked division winner in the AFC, they're probably gonna get
the AFC North winner, which is probably gonna be a
win for them, So you know, at least they've got
that benefit.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
But yeah, that was and and.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Justin Herbert, you know, probably gonna need a need a
little time to uh, to recoup on the elbow. He
had to land on fifty five times last night. And
and hopefully it'll be back.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And if you're concerned about the elbow, aren't you just
look at it.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
It's default you've.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You've had some elbow issues, haven't you.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yes, yep, sure have. I think it's called impingement or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I don't know. I remember I remember him talking about this.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It's called thicky thick on the elevator at two point
fifty in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
How thick we talking, by the way, but we full back.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Not that thick, no, but like enough to be able
to use the phrase. Okay, there was a little jiggle.
It could go in so many different directions. I know
it was just like, is it a good thicky thick?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Is it? Was it a bad thicky thick? Was it?
I don't know. I tried.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
You can't make a strong judgment because I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Trying to make I wasn't trying to make any You
knew what I like. I don't want to be.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Solicited in this situation, and I don't want to be
looked like anything has occurred between us.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I was just the life of a pretty boy. Man.
I'd have been looking like.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
It wasn't that it was the timing of it, like
it just it was an unfortunate timing.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
For if she looked the way you used it, she
looked that elevator door would open, I'd have been like.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Damn, she looks she looked tired. Okay, that way she
just looked looked happy.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
She looked like she just got off a Pelton bike
the last fifty minutes with no seat.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
She had the best trainer for that session. Yeah, dang.
I was like, oh, oh no, oh no, come.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
On, we got one more climb.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Dig in.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
This place never disappoints them, man, there's always something.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
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Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm just I'm letting you know. That is the line
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Speaker 3 (19:20):
Letting you know who's going to take care of that elbow.
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Speaker 8 (22:52):
You know, when we sit and talk, when I talked
to Marcus, when we talk to our team, we don't
have any good answers for that. We're just really frustrated
that we had the rug pulled out from underneath this.
I don't know exactly when the decision was made. You know,
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conference in twenty four of our other sports.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I wouldn't be honest.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
With you if I didn't say that they have certainly
done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
In Notre Dame, we.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Didn't appreciate the fact that we were singled out repeatedly
and compared to Miami.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Not by Miami.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Miami has every right to do that, but it raised
a lot of eyebrows here that the conference was taken
shots at us, and you know, that's just not.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Something we chose to do. We wouldn't choose to do
that in the future.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
All right, So I'd like to update something quickly.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I want to update something.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yesterday we talked about the Catholics versus Convict shirt. What
about Catholics versus everybody? Because I love that Notre Dame's
going after it all. They want it all. Acc College
Football Playoff Committee, Alabama fans, you na, ESPN, they can
all get that work.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
I had someone asked me yesterday, They're like, you know,
how do you feel about this?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
And ESPN?
Speaker 5 (24:32):
And I sat and said to myself, you know, everyone
makes this like just about Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You know, by you got left out too.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
BYU actually had a really good case and resume to
make a case for being a part of the twelve
team playoff. No, unfortunately they lost the same team twice. Right,
They lost in Lubbock to Texas Tech. They lost them
in the Big Twelve Championship. The quarterback gets hurt earlier
in that game, so it it takes away from what
their offense could have been. But I don't know, maybe
Disney ESPN, maybe they have a album with abstinence, right,
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I mean that's what both.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
By you and outing.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Maybe Disney's got something against abstinence before marriage.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Are you saying that the lady in the elevator had
an ESPN shured on saying she.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Would have been representation of ESPN at that point. Yes,
I believe that's a that's a fair assumption. Oh, to
be more serious.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
In regards to the conversation.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
I think people have misinterpreted somewhat of like Notre Dame's
position on this, where everyone's viewing it as they're whining
or they're taking their ball and going home from the
From the get when we started with the College Football Playoff,
they were in, they were assured that they were in,
and then in the final two weeks, you leap frog
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them with a team that had beat them week one,
So they never really should have had Miami at behind
Notre Dame at any point, creating a false impression of
where Notre Dame needed to be. And then you look
at what they did with Alabama. Alabama did nothing to
improve their case for being a part of the College
Football Playoff, having a historically poor performance in an SEC
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championship game. We've never seen a team non score in
an SEC championship game for three straight quarters.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
They rushed for less yards than Notre.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Dame did in the SEC Championship game. Let us sink
in Notre Dame did been playing the SEC Championship game.
Alabama rushed for negative three yards. And it spare me
who was injured. Everyone's got injuries. Notre Dame is playing
with technically three backup offensive linemen, So spare me all
that conversation. Where Notre Dame has taking a stance is
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that we're not going to be some pawn in a
TV show that serves your best interests. And then after
you go ahead and pull the rug from out underneath us,
you're going to throw us into some pop tart bowl
and an exhibition game and expect us to help improve
your bottom line.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
If you're ESPN, I can tell you this much.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I am proud as a former Notre Dame player and
alum the stance of this team because it was voted
on by the team. I think a lot of people
have overlooked the fact that this wasn't an administrative decision.
This came from the players too. They collectively made a
decision to say, we're not going to serve their best interest.
We're going to move forward guys who either are moving
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on to the NFL, guys who maybe are moving on.
Kenny Minshee, for example, the backup quarterback once another another
opportunity somewhere else, and rightfully so, he's a hell of
a player.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
If I was any team looking for a quarterback, that's
gonna be a start and a really good player. I'd
look at Kenny.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Minshe But those guys are looking forward to that, and
the staff is looking forward to the transfer portal, building
out of the roster and then making their best run
twenty twenty six. But everyone else who was out there
making a case.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
For oh, they don't. They don't get as much practice
for both time and everything. You think this kids can't practice, They.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Can't go throw seven on seven, do the things we
always used to do, regardless of the time of year,
just because the coaches aren't there. You don't think I
can film it, go back, sit with receivers, everyone to
watch it, go watch through our film and cutups.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I mean, everyone acts like this isn't.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
A full time job for these kids, just because they're
not playing an exhibition bowl game where they're putting their
bodies at risk and potentially the team at risk if
one of them gets hurt in a meaningless game. For
that twenty twenty six season where they're trying to actually
go for a run for a national championship, it's just
not worth it. And I got no problem with it.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
It's an interesting situation for certain and man, the ad
came out fire and that that was a gun's a
blazing type of deal. I mean it was, I don't
want to say it was very very subtlely aggressive, because
my thought.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Process coming from away from.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
What he had to say, was what what will be
the recourse, what will be the repercussions, what will be
the next step here? Because when you throw out biggest partner,
when you throw out attacking them, you know, not feeling
as though you're on the same page. Those are fighting words,
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like nobody wants to feel like I've been left out there?
Like what like wait, like I just realized that, you know,
I'm at the party, but I wasn't really supposed to
be at the party.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
So once you realize that everybody around you is having
fun at the party and they're like they weren't meant
to be here at the party and you figured that out,
what happens next, Especially if you are the reason why
the party is relevant, that has a large bearing on this.
(29:51):
It's not like you invited somebody to the table that
it's like you can treat them as like how people
used to treat Indiana until they started coming to the table, right,
Like you can't even treat Notre Dame as a second
rate citizen.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Because they're good.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
They just played for the national title last year, so
they're your best representation outside of seeing something from you know, Clemson,
when you saw from Clemson, who else is really stepping
up to be a major player, to be a major
draw in the ACC. The ACC, it could go away
today and wouldn't nobody care. Wouldn't nobody even care? It
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would be no different than the Big East. Like the
Big East was an amazing, prestigious conference. I can recall it,
some great teams in it, and you know what, it
went away. Don't nobody even care? The ACC could go away,
wouldn't nobody even care? They go down to a power
three and then now there's only one left before it
goes to a power two conference situation where it's the
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SEC versus the Big Ten. To me, I'm just curious
as to how this all plays out, because the ACC,
to me, is not significant enough to do something where
they would be so irrational or so blatant in the
disrespect of how they supported or pushed or wanted to
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see Notre Dame do well in this situation.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I'll put it this way too.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I don't think anyone's under the impression that the ACC
needed to trumpet Notre Dame. I don't feel that way,
but I would say that if you're the conference commissioner,
Jim Phillips, who, by the way, is a Notredame guy,
But if you come out and say that you actively
didn't politic against Notre Dame when you went out of
(31:37):
the norm of playing that game on your own ACC network,
Notre Dame versus Miami week one on repeat for like
two three days straight, Like, how else.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Would you describe that? Then?
Speaker 5 (31:51):
So they might not have had anyone come out and
specifically say anything, but clearly they knew what they were doing.
I mean, Jim Phillips isn't a dumb guy. Now, some
might question the intelligence of that entire you know, conference
after their conference tiebreaking scenario because it became so convoluted
that you found a five lost team playing against UVA
(32:14):
for your conference championship. And we would have could have
solved all this if the ACC was smarter and realized
that if ultimately everything is about getting into the playoff,
that's going to be part of your criteria and your
tie breaking scenario head to head, and then you look
at what's the rank, you know, highest ranked team in
the college full of playoff rankings, and that would have
(32:35):
been Miami.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
So it could have been Miami versus UVA. Miami would
have most likely won.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
That would have taken up that power for spot that
was left open because Duke won, and instead of jam
you getting in, you would have most likely had it
would have been Miami. That would have been an extra
spot then for Notre Dame. And we're avoiding all of this,
and you could have had that partial affiliated team in
Notre Dame who's there for twenty four other sports. But
(32:59):
instead they can't figure out their ass from their elbow,
and so Duke wins it, and then Duke's like, well,
wait a second, we thought if we win it, we
might be in no right, we're not part of the party.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Either, gotcha? Gotcha. I do think there will.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Be a day where Notre Dame could potentially look elsewhere
the Big Ten makes a more natural fit regionally. They're
already playing in the Big Ten for hockey. But I
don't know that. I mean, look, there's a long history there.
There's a long history there between Notre Dame and what
once was. You know, consider the Western Conference back then.
(33:36):
A lot of people realize that, and one of the
reasons why they didn't join the Western Conference that became
the Big Ten Conference was there actually was some anti
Catholic sentiment that was going on, and so Notre Dame
ended up building up this national following because they had
to travel nationally in order to play games from where
they were in South Bend, Indiana. So the independence for
(34:00):
Notre Dame is woven into the fabric of who that
university is, who we are, and there's a reason why,
you know, they venture all the way to Southern cal
to play the Trojans. You know, the history pint, all
of those things, you know, was built off the fact
that they were not allowed to be in what was
once the Western Conference or the Big Ten Conference because
(34:20):
of their Catholic roots and their beliefs.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I mean, Big Ten would be sweet and it would
make a lot of sense. I don't know what that
entails and how that gets done, but they're the biggest team,
biggest college football team in say Chicago, and it's not
even close, like like there's nobody even in the vicinity
Northwestern Illinois, like nobody's even close to the fan based
Notre Dame as there, so I do wonder how they
(34:46):
get out with.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
The whole Thing's interesting to me though, like everyone's taking
potshots too now, like oh, look at Notre Dames scheduling
everything else.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
It's like, well, let's just pump the brakes. Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
You have to schedule like ten twelve years out. So
if you actually like the will say oh, they're playing
Wisconsin and Michigan State. It's like, well, ten years ago,
you know who's playing in the Big Ten Championship.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Who won it? Wisconsin? It was actually, well they were
playing it, Michigan State won. It's against State.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
It's like, so when they were actually scheduling, this is
the part of their schedule they can control. They looked
at these teams as like, no, these are legitimate teams.
That's what we're trying to play. And then as far
in regards to the acc affiliation, they play five games
against them, yere, they don't control that, Like they don't
control the fact that the miam Florida State's been down,
Miami has just now finally gotten back, and that game
(35:31):
in South Bend next year is going to be wild
as all get out versus Miami but they can't control
the rest of the conference and how big the conference is,
and if that conference isn't having them play.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
The toughest opponents.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
I mean, some of it's just unfortunate too, Like Syracuse
is a different team of Steve Angeli State healthy at
their quarterback position. This year he gets hurt, season goes
by the wayside. For fran Brown, that's unfortunate, but it's football.
It's what it is. But I just sit there and
look at them, like, dude, they're trying to make USC happen.
USC is the team that's trying to screw it out
of it. Listen to Pundit's guys like Colin Coward to
act like they know what the hell they're talking about,
(36:04):
and it's like the reality is, look at their strength
of schedule in comparison with a lot of these other
teams no name, strength of schedule is very compartable. Old
Miss Well Miss is a one last team that's sitting
right now at six in the playoff. I mean, the
biggest issue we have in all of college football with
the ranking system.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
And how we go about doing it.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
There's so many inequities as far as how many conference
games they play, how many Power for teams they play,
how they go about scheduling who they play when they play.
The one thing I tell you about Notre Dame is
when you're an independent, you get a lot of your
teams come off buys when they play. I think one year,
like it was like two three years ago, they played
seven teams coming straight off buys.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Like is that easy? I don't care how bad the
team is. They have two weeks to prepare. They get
a better shot. You got extra time to prepare, Sam rest.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
By the way, do you guys think there's any easy
route to the college football Playoff Championship this year?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I mean, I get James Madison and Twu Lane. I
get that maybe those are easy wins. But when I
look at the bracket this year, I looked at our bracket.
I looked at the bracket last season. I was like,
Penn State has a chance to do it. Oh yeah,
like that.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
That bracket was very, very favorable.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I don't see any favorable outside of and I hate
to say it because I mean, maybe they're good enough
to compete, But Tulane and James Madison, maybe those are
the two easier games for the Power schools.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Maybe it's not.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
It'll be interesting to see entertainment wise how that plays out.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
But I guess I'm asking you a question.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
There doesn't seem to be a clear and easy path
for any team to get direct to the championship game.
If you have competitive games, if you happen to have
games that are competitive with James Madison in Oregon and
Tulane and Ole Miss and if them were some way,
(38:00):
somehow able to make it out of the first round,
does it does it have any legitimacy to what took place?
I mean, I know it doesn't. I know, it doesn't
justify leaving out out you know, Notre Dame. But is
there any legitimacy to it that That's the question I
(38:21):
found myself asking myself.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
I mean, I don't, but you know, this is how
we form outed the brackets, so you know, jam you
gets an opportunity, Telling gets an opportunity. Not going to
be grudging. This is the format that everyone signed up for.
I do think Oregon they have the best path.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
WHOA, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
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Speaker 6 (40:28):
Not a lot happening in the sports world, but a
little bit of a funny thing that happened over the weekend.
It was funny for me, but for most people it wasn't.
At least the people that had the spread in the
Raiders Broncos game. It was a very interesting ending. NFL
fans are calling for an investigation. Actually after the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Lost his mind over it.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Well, I mean, what's the justification. I don't know if
there is one. I think it might have been a coincidence.
But yeah, some fans are convinced the final score doesn't
tell the full picture, as they claimed the score was
fixed in the bookmakers favor After Denver head into the
game as seven and a half point favorites. In the
fourth quarter, the Broncos had the ball on fourth and
for the twenty eight yard line, but in a surprising decision,
(41:12):
they opted not to go for the field goal that
would have extended their lead to twenty seven to fourteen
to make it a thirteen point game. Instead, Denver attempted
to run the ball for no gain and the Raiders
take over with under thirty seconds from mating on the clock.
And then what came next was instead of spiking the ball,
they went for the field goal. I mean, you got
to get your refs in. You know, those are game
(41:34):
reps for everybody.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Did they make the field goal? They did? They made
the field goal off.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
There.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
Therefore, the the Raiders play seven and a half in
over four and that's a cover cash. That's a cover
for the raider. Cover for the raiders, which you know,
how you could your mine can wander. You got a
team in Vegas when they're down by two scorers.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Oh you're saying, well was it you guys are there?
You knock on a couple of doors.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I mean, how are you if you watch your offense? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (42:00):
Down?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
What ten? Yes?
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Kick a field goal with it was a four seconds
left in the kick. Why would you kick a field
goal exactly?
Speaker 6 (42:06):
People are saying that they kicked the field goal so
that if there was enough time on the clock, so.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
They take it onside kick, get and you throw the
hail marry four seconds.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
It's like, I know, so I actually that Eric Mangini
introduced that idea one time, and I was like, oh,
this makes complete sense because obviously you can throw a
hail Mary further than you can kick a field goal.
So in order to say it conserve time, you you know,
get to a certain point where like, all right, we
feel good about field goal.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Range, let's kick it. Try to get the onside kick
because we need two scores.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Anyway, It kind of makes sense time wise, but not
in that instance, that felt like the fix was in.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Like the game was over. Was over, the game was
besides the spread beside the spread. Yeah, but the game
was over.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
I mean, I just I've never been a part of
the team that wouldn't want to try to take shots
to the end zone, right, you know.
Speaker 6 (42:55):
Not only that did the spread hit, the over also hit.
The over was forty and a half double way me. Well, listen,
I mean, you gotta stop being so negative about it.
What about the people on the other side.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
And furthermore, if you bet on Denver, I mean, you
get what you ask for like that. That's I'm sorry,
you can't trust them to win by a wide margin.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
And someone's got the red ass for Sean paid And
that's what I was about. Someone's got the red ass
for Sean Payton.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Who's that?
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Somebody? I don't know, someone someone out there? I mean,
is that?
Speaker 5 (43:27):
Is that what the Raiders up to now? Though they're
just trying to cover games. They're like, forget winning there
under talks all year. We're just trying to cover so
bad make it someone happy it was a win.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, somewhere Antonio Pears is smiling.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
I know that
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Speaker 3 (01:35):
How is Sin City?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's over?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Man, Yeah, it's over. Yeah, it's it's another team. You
could put dirt on them, man, yeah, they number one
in the East.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
But it's over, man, var Can we give a big
shout on thanks to Amanda Habrowski.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, Hebrowski, Hebrowski. Amanda, She's nope, she got us all
set up. She gotta set up. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
She was real cool too, like you know, like I
was panicking my uber didn't show up.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It canceled on me twice.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Then I finally got into the uber and then this
guy drops me off in this random spot and I
was and I smelled the random smell that went with
the random spot, and then I saw random people standing
around and I was like, this is all too random
for me. So but we're we're here. I made it.
I made it in here.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So did the smell? Did you smell?
Speaker 6 (02:25):
It?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
New Orleans a little bit, but worse. It smelled like
New Orleans the.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Worst wretched bro a constant funk in the street.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It was like mix.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Mixed a humidity heroine.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
And just bold and contank. It did smell like some
type of a substance smell of dank.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Mixed in there. It was. That's all I know. Whatever
it smelled like, it was bad.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So what is the the occasion in Vegas? I know it's.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
The Hall of Fame, right, college football Hall of Fame?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah, irving up on the big screen in the center
of town too. Man, I just saw Al Wilson. Man
that that warn't my heart to like, that's a man. Yeah,
It's like two figures of college football linebacker, well three,
maybe the boss Al Wilson and and uh Fitzgerald. Those
(03:34):
are the three. Like if you say, what does a
linebacker look like? Those are three dudes. I say, you
know what, when you think about Derek Thomas, I throw
Derek Thomas in on two and and and and Derek
Derek Brooks and that's it. I'm gonna stop right there.
I would stop right there. But Al Wilson, that's a
grown ass man. That's a bad man, Brom. I'm only
(03:57):
talking about Al Wilson, you know.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
So we're here for the NFF National Football Foundation at
the Hall of Fame dinner and it's the Campbell Trophy Award.
I believe gets it gets at this dinner, it gets
handed out, it gets awarded to the recipient.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So it's a lot of good stuff, man.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
And today there are some good festivities going on. So
it's a cool little doe.
Speaker 8 (04:20):
Now.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
We were at a urban had a little private party
last night. So I got to see some former coaches guys.
That was J Patno there not to see Jo there.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
By the way, he's got a book come out, How
to Be a Successful eight Coach.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
At I did not see, did not see J Pitterno.
Actually there didn't seem to be anyone for Penn State.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
For that matter.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
But there was a good amount of coaches who you
know I I had known of, I'd coached me, or
it was around it. It was just a really cool
time seeing you know, other guys too that had played
for Urban.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That was nice.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
I do want to go back to a scenario that
presented itself this morning. So the elevated tour opens to
go down. There is what appears to be a Lady of.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
The night, all right, and I am I kind of.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
The door's open.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I look, I'm like, oh gosh, uh, do I just
wait to the next one or do I? I mean,
not that we were in that big of a hurry,
but I'm like, I don't want to wait really till
the next one, because then I'm you know, who knows whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Oh yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Went on, I went on, you went on, come on
into the dark sad.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
She had already been worn out. It was the end
of her ship.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Then her money, They already already took her, her spins, They gloral.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
She walked, She.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Walked out of the elevator, and I was just like,
I'm gonna let there be a decent ga sweet us
so no one and there was what's happened a decent
gap right there?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Certainly was that wouldn't she the Eagles and the Chargers.
Wasn't the only game football being played.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
I don't know who got into her, but she looks
like she had just ridden horseback.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
And now you know what that dank was.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But but my question is should I have just waited
and just be like, I'm good?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
If it looked that bad, I would I would have
like turned away, like I would start tying my shoe
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'd have hit my knee and start tying.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Go ahead, No, you carry cash, You're fine? Yeah, listen,
can be arranged.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Need to do that? Look out like that. You could
tap these days, you don't even need.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Bring tapping the tap.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, you could tap a whole lot of tap. Yeah,
a whole lot tapping. Just hold your phone up. Oh
my god, they had to take it. Bam. That's what
I hear. That's that's the word on the street.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
It's just super Bowl here were like every morning we
get up, it's someone's last night.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It's still our next day. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Still somebody I saw a few of them. They they
I'm telling you they look suspicious.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Man. One of them said, I've never been to a
strip club.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I looked at them, I said, you lie in my head,
though I ain't say it out loud in my because
you're looking for trouble. If you say it out loud,
you joined somebody else's conversation at two in the morning. Uh,
But I said it in my head, like, you ain't
never been to a strip club. Please, it's almost three
am in Vegas, like, and you're talking to your team
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that's with you outside in this funky ass smell, acting
like it don't stink, right, and.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
You guys are right, are you guys nowhere into the strip?
Speaker 10 (07:45):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Anywhere near the strip?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
What's the Uh? Yeah, this area we're at those kind
of it's a busy area. I feel like Loreno would
like it.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I've been there.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
It's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
See there you go. You been to this?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, the one in Vegas off the off what's it called?
Speaker 11 (08:02):
Yeah, right above the right above the Sheriff's office.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Been there a couple of times, that's correct.
Speaker 11 (08:06):
They have snacks on the little table. And then I
took a pock like, I filled up my pockets and
I went outside and I fed the homeless people. And
there was also a lady of the streets on the sidewalk,
but she was spread eagle and uh yeah she was.
She was petting the cat on the sidewalk.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Man, it was crazy. It was crazy, Okay. I mean
talk about getting business man.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Talk about soliciting for business, right, that's one form of advertisement,
guerrilla marketing.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Right.
Speaker 11 (08:45):
Anyways, it's a nice studio though.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
It is a nice studio.
Speaker 11 (08:49):
I love the patio that they have that you can
go sit out there.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
All right, so you had the full experience. I just came, man,
we have no idea.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
You know, we have a great host and we're here
doing Radiowski.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah. Good polish young lady from Detroit. Good polish lady.
I'm proud of it from Detroit. Yeah. I mean if
I was asking about Parogi's and stuff, yeah, some get
a little haushki. Seriously.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Anyways, all these things were very interesting to discuss because
last night this game wasn't how about that, or maybe
it was.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's done though.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
It's just they threw Philly just looks miserable, like it's
just I've never seen a more miserable Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
In my life, and even are you going to be
first place in your division and look like that.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's just the last few weeks.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And look, I know Jalen Hurts had a couple of
bad throws, but he also didn't get some help. Like
there were there were some drops, there was some you know,
A J. Brown had a couple of missed opportunities there.
Like just I know, Jalen Hurts is the guy that
seemingly gets all the blame because nobody there likes him.
But that wasn't all on Jalen Hurts. Like they had
plenty of opportunities and they just gaged that game away
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and it's son of a bitch. We had Eagles minus
two and a half of the week, Yeah we did,
because you know, they were going to go for the wind.
They were not going to try and tie the game
at overtime. They were going to go for the win.
They didn't care about the remaining time on the clock.
They were going to try and ice that game. And
of course we lost there. It's too bad. It's really frustrating.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's very disappointing.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah, well man, that doesn't make for a good week
for for you.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
He did for LaVar and I but.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You Justin Herbert though, Man, that guy got his ass beat.
He took a beating last night and the worst part
was he couldn't land on his wrist, so he just
kept landing on his elbow, so it's almost like deformed.
He's got like bleeding everywhere. But it just seemed like
two different worlds because those guys love Herbert, like you
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hear them talk about him afterwards, listen to uh Jim
Harbaugh talk about Justin Herbert afterwards, and just watching him felt.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Like a movie almost that he couldn't even believe.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And Justin Herbert he's a superhero. He is a competitive maniac.
Speaker 9 (11:16):
I mean he was even stiff arming guys, you know,
with a broken hand, and he had surgery a week ago,
and out here tonight, it's it's it felt like like
I was in a movie. Like we were in a
movie where you know the quarterback's doings, and it's like
you get to the point where we.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Go, okay, this is getting a little unrealistic. You know,
That's what it felt like to me.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
So he's uh, thanks through four hundred and thirty nine
yards one touchdown one I and t got sacked seven
times what superhero he was watching? But you know what, though,
what's so, what's who? You know Batman does and so
does Superman. They get their hands beat a lot. I
don't know if people really pay attention to the fact
(12:01):
that superheroes really take real ass kickings, like bang, beat
the hell out of Batman in one movie.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
It's kind of like a Jean Claude Van Damn movie.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, and then beat and he's like, and then once
he gets his ass, beat a whole lot, and then
he starts to win. Then he goes and does a
split in his training, and then he comes back and
then he wins.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I think two things canna be true.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
It was a heroic performance in the sense of what
he was playing through. I mean, I know it's not
his throwing hand, but it was. It's still pretty badass.
Like he's he already said he's gonna play before they
even got surgery. He gets surgery, He's like, well, now
I got to I've already made the declaration and they
got they got their job done.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I mean, maybe in part the Hurts did not play well.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
It keeps saying not that's not the formula first success
for them, Like I just I don't think you can
put the ball in his hands that much consistently and
he's gonna be to win games, they've got to run
the football, so be closer to a fifty to fifty
split or leieve a little greater than that.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And I just this offense is lost. The Eagles offense
has no idea what their identity is.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
They don't hang their hat on Saquon Barkley like they
showed it. Even Jalen hurts as part of the rushing
its hag. And then they can't find consistency in the
passing game. And shockingly usually Jalen's a really good decision
maker and it wasn't all on him, but I mean,
come on, man, you can't turn the football over what
five times?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
And you gotta score. Like it's not enough to say, oh,
you protected the ball or oh you know this is
you know, not all his fault because guys are drunk.
You gotta score points, man, Like, in the end, you
got to figure out how the best way it is
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to go about scoring points. And I'd say that belonged,
that distinction belonged to both teams.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You can't take a look at this game.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Last night and sit there and say, wow, these are
two of the more elite teams. If you look by record,
these are some really good teams. One is in the
lead in the NFC East, One is in close.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
To the lead. Are they in the lead in the
AFC West?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I think they're what battling with the Broncos and two
games two games back from the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Okay, with nine wins, but that's like they're the five
seed right now, so they would get the lowest ranked
division winner on them with nine wins, So it's not
this is not a bad team, but they just don't
look good on offense. And as much as I like
Herbert and I love the heroicism of what he did,
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it's not enough.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It's just when when you.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Get to the playoffs, that style of football for both teams,
that brand of football will not be enough. It will
be a short lived visit and it will be a
abrupt ending to a playoff run. If both of these
teams can't figure out what they have going on at
offense and more specifically, what they have going on with
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their quarterbacks. I'll say for both, one team won and
one team lost, but both teams stunk their way into
an overtime, and God blessed. Give the Eagles credit. They
came back and found a way to put a touchdown
up later in the game. But they stink. You know,
the defenses played fairly well. These are too stink. These
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two teams have good defenses, They play good defenses, and
their defenses are carrying them and they got to figure
out what they're going to do on offense.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, I Philly.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It's weird how this mirrors the season after they went
to the Super Bowl a couple of years ago, to
where they went to the Super Bowl. They lose in overtime,
great game, Jalen Hurts was awesome. They lose both coordinators.
They come back the next year and they start off
hot and next thing you know, it's just this downward
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slide in the back half of the season. There's all
this drama. They get into the postseason and they're a
one and done and it just it looks exactly like that.
They've now lost three straight. They're not getting along offenses
out of sync. They're probably going to fire their coordinator
again in the offseason. Like just it's like there there
is no in between with them. It's either they're going
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to Super Bowls or everybody hates each other. There's there's
literally no one between. And meanwhile, the Chargers will probably
go to the playoffs, and if they get the lowest
ranked division winner in the AFC, they're probably gonna get
the AFC North winner, which is probably gonna be a
win for them, So you know, at least they've got
that benefit.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
But yeah, that was and and.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Justin Herbert, you know, probably gonna need a need a
little time to uh, to recoup on the elbow. He
had to land on fifty five times last night. And
and hopefully it'll be back.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And if you're concerned about the elbow, aren't you just
look at it.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
It's default you've.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You've had some elbow issues, haven't you.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yes, yep, sure have. I think it's called impingement or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I don't know. I remember I remember him talking about this.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It's called thicky thick on the elevator at two point
fifty in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
How thick we talking, by the way, but we full back.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Not that thick, no, but like enough to be able
to use the phrase. Okay, there was a little jiggle.
It could go in so many different directions. I know
it was just like, is it a good thicky thick?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Is it? Was it a bad thicky thick? Was it?
I don't know. I tried.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
You can't make a strong judgment because I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Trying to make I wasn't trying to make any You
knew what I like. I don't want to be.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Solicited in this situation, and I don't want to be
looked like anything has occurred between us.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I was just the life of a pretty boy. Man.
I'd have been looking like.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
It wasn't that it was the timing of it, like
it just it was an unfortunate timing.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
For if she looked the way you used it, she
looked that elevator door would open, I'd have been like.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Damn, she looks she looked tired. Okay, that way she
just looked looked happy.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
She looked like she just got off a Pelton bike
the last fifty minutes with no seat.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
She had the best trainer for that session. Yeah, dang.
I was like, oh, oh no, oh no, come.
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Notre Dame athletic director, was on the Dan Patrick Show
yesterday and well, you know, he aired some grievances, not
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only with the college football playoff rankings, the rug being
pulled out from under him, but also with the sort
of the strategy that was implemented by the ACC.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
You know, when we sit and talk, when I talked
to Marcus, when we talk to our team, we don't
have any good answers for that. We're just really frustrated
that we had the rug pulled out from underneath this.
I don't know exactly when the decision was made. You know,
we made our case, we stayed at our point of view.
But again, if you're us, we were told from day
one of the rankings that you know we were in
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and we were ninth, and then all of a sudden,
we wake up on Tuesday and we fall below Alabama,
and just our heads were spinning, like, where's the logic,
where's the rationale? I have tremendous respect for Miami, you know,
great team, great school, but we were mystified by the
actions of the conference to attack you know, their biggest
really business partner in football and a member of their
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conference in twenty four of our other sports.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I wouldn't be honest.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
With you if I didn't say that they have certainly
done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
In Notre Dame, we.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Didn't appreciate the fact that we were singled out repeatedly
and compared to Miami.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Not by Miami.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Miami has every right to do that, but it raised
a lot of eyebrows here that the conference was taken
shots at us, and you know, that's just not.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Something we chose to do. We wouldn't choose to do
that in the future.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
All right, So I'd like to update something quickly.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I want to update something.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yesterday we talked about the Catholics versus Convict shirt. What
about Catholics versus everybody? Because I love that Notre Dame's
going after it all. They want it all. Acc College
Football Playoff Committee, Alabama fans, you na, ESPN, they can
all get that work.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
I had someone asked me yesterday, They're like, you know,
how do you feel about this?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
And ESPN?
Speaker 5 (24:32):
And I sat and said to myself, you know, everyone
makes this like just about Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
You know, by you got left out too.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
BYU actually had a really good case and resume to
make a case for being a part of the twelve
team playoff. No, unfortunately they lost the same team twice. Right,
They lost in Lubbock to Texas Tech. They lost them
in the Big Twelve Championship. The quarterback gets hurt earlier
in that game, so it it takes away from what
their offense could have been. But I don't know, maybe
Disney ESPN, maybe they have a album with abstinence, right,
(25:01):
I mean that's what both.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
By you and outing.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Maybe Disney's got something against abstinence before marriage.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Are you saying that the lady in the elevator had
an ESPN shured on saying she.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Would have been representation of ESPN at that point. Yes,
I believe that's a that's a fair assumption. Oh, to
be more serious.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
In regards to the conversation.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
I think people have misinterpreted somewhat of like Notre Dame's
position on this, where everyone's viewing it as they're whining
or they're taking their ball and going home from the
From the get when we started with the College Football Playoff,
they were in, they were assured that they were in,
and then in the final two weeks, you leap frog
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them with a team that had beat them week one,
So they never really should have had Miami at behind
Notre Dame at any point, creating a false impression of
where Notre Dame needed to be. And then you look
at what they did with Alabama. Alabama did nothing to
improve their case for being a part of the College
Football Playoff, having a historically poor performance in an SEC
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championship game. We've never seen a team non score in
an SEC championship game for three straight quarters.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
They rushed for less yards than Notre.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Dame did in the SEC Championship game. Let us sink
in Notre Dame did been playing the SEC Championship game.
Alabama rushed for negative three yards. And it spare me
who was injured. Everyone's got injuries. Notre Dame is playing
with technically three backup offensive linemen, So spare me all
that conversation. Where Notre Dame has taking a stance is
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that we're not going to be some pawn in a
TV show that serves your best interests. And then after
you go ahead and pull the rug from out underneath us,
you're going to throw us into some pop tart bowl
and an exhibition game and expect us to help improve
your bottom line.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
If you're ESPN, I can tell you this much.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I am proud as a former Notre Dame player and
alum the stance of this team because it was voted
on by the team. I think a lot of people
have overlooked the fact that this wasn't an administrative decision.
This came from the players too. They collectively made a
decision to say, we're not going to serve their best interest.
We're going to move forward guys who either are moving
(27:26):
on to the NFL, guys who maybe are moving on.
Kenny Minshee, for example, the backup quarterback once another another
opportunity somewhere else, and rightfully so, he's a hell of
a player.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
If I was any team looking for a quarterback, that's
gonna be a start and a really good player. I'd
look at Kenny.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Minshe But those guys are looking forward to that, and
the staff is looking forward to the transfer portal, building
out of the roster and then making their best run
twenty twenty six. But everyone else who was out there
making a case.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
For oh, they don't. They don't get as much practice
for both time and everything. You think this kids can't practice, They.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Can't go throw seven on seven, do the things we
always used to do, regardless of the time of year,
just because the coaches aren't there. You don't think I
can film it, go back, sit with receivers, everyone to
watch it, go watch through our film and cutups.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I mean, everyone acts like this isn't.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
A full time job for these kids, just because they're
not playing an exhibition bowl game where they're putting their
bodies at risk and potentially the team at risk if
one of them gets hurt in a meaningless game. For
that twenty twenty six season where they're trying to actually
go for a run for a national championship, it's just
not worth it. And I got no problem with it.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
It's an interesting situation for certain and man, the ad
came out fire and that that was a gun's a
blazing type of deal. I mean it was, I don't
want to say it was very very subtlely aggressive, because
my thought.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Process coming from away from.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
What he had to say, was what what will be
the recourse, what will be the repercussions, what will be
the next step here? Because when you throw out biggest partner,
when you throw out attacking them, you know, not feeling
as though you're on the same page. Those are fighting words,
(29:17):
like nobody wants to feel like I've been left out there?
Like what like wait, like I just realized that, you know,
I'm at the party, but I wasn't really supposed to
be at the party.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
So once you realize that everybody around you is having
fun at the party and they're like they weren't meant
to be here at the party and you figured that out,
what happens next, Especially if you are the reason why
the party is relevant, that has a large bearing on this.
(29:51):
It's not like you invited somebody to the table that
it's like you can treat them as like how people
used to treat Indiana until they started coming to the table, right,
Like you can't even treat Notre Dame as a second
rate citizen.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Because they're good.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
They just played for the national title last year, so
they're your best representation outside of seeing something from you know, Clemson,
when you saw from Clemson, who else is really stepping
up to be a major player, to be a major
draw in the ACC. The ACC, it could go away
today and wouldn't nobody care. Wouldn't nobody even care? It
(30:27):
would be no different than the Big East. Like the
Big East was an amazing, prestigious conference. I can recall it,
some great teams in it, and you know what, it
went away. Don't nobody even care? The ACC could go away,
wouldn't nobody even care? They go down to a power
three and then now there's only one left before it
goes to a power two conference situation where it's the
(30:48):
SEC versus the Big Ten. To me, I'm just curious
as to how this all plays out, because the ACC,
to me, is not significant enough to do something where
they would be so irrational or so blatant in the
disrespect of how they supported or pushed or wanted to
(31:10):
see Notre Dame do well in this situation.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I'll put it this way too.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I don't think anyone's under the impression that the ACC
needed to trumpet Notre Dame. I don't feel that way,
but I would say that if you're the conference commissioner,
Jim Phillips, who, by the way, is a Notredame guy,
But if you come out and say that you actively
didn't politic against Notre Dame when you went out of
(31:37):
the norm of playing that game on your own ACC network,
Notre Dame versus Miami week one on repeat for like
two three days straight, Like, how else.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Would you describe that? Then?
Speaker 5 (31:51):
So they might not have had anyone come out and
specifically say anything, but clearly they knew what they were doing.
I mean, Jim Phillips isn't a dumb guy. Now, some
might question the intelligence of that entire you know, conference
after their conference tiebreaking scenario because it became so convoluted
that you found a five lost team playing against UVA
(32:14):
for your conference championship. And we would have could have
solved all this if the ACC was smarter and realized
that if ultimately everything is about getting into the playoff,
that's going to be part of your criteria and your
tie breaking scenario head to head, and then you look
at what's the rank, you know, highest ranked team in
the college full of playoff rankings, and that would have
(32:35):
been Miami.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
So it could have been Miami versus UVA. Miami would
have most likely won.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
That would have taken up that power for spot that
was left open because Duke won, and instead of jam
you getting in, you would have most likely had it
would have been Miami. That would have been an extra
spot then for Notre Dame. And we're avoiding all of this,
and you could have had that partial affiliated team in
Notre Dame who's there for twenty four other sports. But
(32:59):
instead they can't figure out their ass from their elbow,
and so Duke wins it, and then Duke's like, well,
wait a second, we thought if we win it, we
might be in no right, we're not part of the party.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Either, gotcha? Gotcha. I do think there will.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Be a day where Notre Dame could potentially look elsewhere
the Big Ten makes a more natural fit regionally. They're
already playing in the Big Ten for hockey. But I
don't know that. I mean, look, there's a long history there.
There's a long history there between Notre Dame and what
once was. You know, consider the Western Conference back then.
(33:36):
A lot of people realize that, and one of the
reasons why they didn't join the Western Conference that became
the Big Ten Conference was there actually was some anti
Catholic sentiment that was going on, and so Notre Dame
ended up building up this national following because they had
to travel nationally in order to play games from where
they were in South Bend, Indiana. So the independence for
(34:00):
Notre Dame is woven into the fabric of who that
university is, who we are, and there's a reason why,
you know, they venture all the way to Southern cal
to play the Trojans. You know, the history pint, all
of those things, you know, was built off the fact
that they were not allowed to be in what was
once the Western Conference or the Big Ten Conference because
(34:20):
of their Catholic roots and their beliefs.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I mean, Big Ten would be sweet and it would
make a lot of sense. I don't know what that
entails and how that gets done, but they're the biggest team,
biggest college football team in say Chicago, and it's not
even close, like like there's nobody even in the vicinity
Northwestern Illinois, like nobody's even close to the fan based
Notre Dame as there, so I do wonder how they
(34:46):
get out with.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
The whole Thing's interesting to me though, like everyone's taking
potshots too now, like oh, look at Notre Dames scheduling
everything else.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
It's like, well, let's just pump the brakes. Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
You have to schedule like ten twelve years out. So
if you actually like the will say oh, they're playing
Wisconsin and Michigan State. It's like, well, ten years ago,
you know who's playing in the Big Ten Championship.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Who won it? Wisconsin? It was actually, well they were
playing it, Michigan State won. It's against State.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
It's like, so when they were actually scheduling, this is
the part of their schedule they can control. They looked
at these teams as like, no, these are legitimate teams.
That's what we're trying to play. And then as far
in regards to the acc affiliation, they play five games
against them, yere, they don't control that, Like they don't
control the fact that the miam Florida State's been down,
Miami has just now finally gotten back, and that game
(35:31):
in South Bend next year is going to be wild
as all get out versus Miami but they can't control
the rest of the conference and how big the conference is,
and if that conference isn't having them play.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
The toughest opponents.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
I mean, some of it's just unfortunate too, Like Syracuse
is a different team of Steve Angeli State healthy at
their quarterback position. This year he gets hurt, season goes
by the wayside. For fran Brown, that's unfortunate, but it's football.
It's what it is. But I just sit there and
look at them, like, dude, they're trying to make USC happen.
USC is the team that's trying to screw it out
of it. Listen to Pundit's guys like Colin Coward to
act like they know what the hell they're talking about,
(36:04):
and it's like the reality is, look at their strength
of schedule in comparison with a lot of these other
teams no name, strength of schedule is very compartable. Old
Miss Well Miss is a one last team that's sitting
right now at six in the playoff. I mean, the
biggest issue we have in all of college football with
the ranking system.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
And how we go about doing it.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
There's so many inequities as far as how many conference
games they play, how many Power for teams they play,
how they go about scheduling who they play when they play.
The one thing I tell you about Notre Dame is
when you're an independent, you get a lot of your
teams come off buys when they play. I think one year,
like it was like two three years ago, they played
seven teams coming straight off buys.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Like is that easy? I don't care how bad the
team is. They have two weeks to prepare. They get
a better shot. You got extra time to prepare, Sam rest.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
By the way, do you guys think there's any easy
route to the college football Playoff Championship this year?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I mean, I get James Madison and Twu Lane. I
get that maybe those are easy wins. But when I
look at the bracket this year, I looked at our bracket.
I looked at the bracket last season. I was like,
Penn State has a chance to do it. Oh yeah,
like that.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
That bracket was very, very favorable.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I don't see any favorable outside of and I hate
to say it because I mean, maybe they're good enough
to compete, But Tulane and James Madison, maybe those are
the two easier games for the Power schools.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Maybe it's not.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
It'll be interesting to see entertainment wise how that plays out.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
But I guess I'm asking you a question.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
There doesn't seem to be a clear and easy path
for any team to get direct to the championship game.
If you have competitive games, if you happen to have
games that are competitive with James Madison in Oregon and
Tulane and Ole Miss and if them were some way,
(38:00):
somehow able to make it out of the first round,
does it does it have any legitimacy to what took place?
I mean, I know it doesn't. I know, it doesn't
justify leaving out out you know, Notre Dame. But is
there any legitimacy to it that That's the question I
(38:21):
found myself asking myself.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
I mean, I don't, but you know, this is how
we form outed the brackets, so you know, jam you
gets an opportunity, Telling gets an opportunity. Not going to
be grudging. This is the format that everyone signed up for.
I do think Oregon they have the best path.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
WHOA, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
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betting man, I would put my money on Organ but
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Speaker 6 (40:28):
Not a lot happening in the sports world, but a
little bit of a funny thing that happened over the weekend.
It was funny for me, but for most people it wasn't.
At least the people that had the spread in the
Raiders Broncos game. It was a very interesting ending. NFL
fans are calling for an investigation. Actually after the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Lost his mind over it.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Well, I mean, what's the justification. I don't know if
there is one. I think it might have been a coincidence.
But yeah, some fans are convinced the final score doesn't
tell the full picture, as they claimed the score was
fixed in the bookmakers favor After Denver head into the
game as seven and a half point favorites. In the
fourth quarter, the Broncos had the ball on fourth and
for the twenty eight yard line, but in a surprising decision,
(41:12):
they opted not to go for the field goal that
would have extended their lead to twenty seven to fourteen
to make it a thirteen point game. Instead, Denver attempted
to run the ball for no gain and the Raiders
take over with under thirty seconds from mating on the clock.
And then what came next was instead of spiking the ball,
they went for the field goal. I mean, you got
to get your refs in. You know, those are game
(41:34):
reps for everybody.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Did they make the field goal? They did? They made
the field goal off.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
There.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
Therefore, the the Raiders play seven and a half in
over four and that's a cover cash. That's a cover
for the raider. Cover for the raiders, which you know,
how you could your mine can wander. You got a
team in Vegas when they're down by two scorers.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Oh you're saying, well was it you guys are there?
You knock on a couple of doors.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I mean, how are you if you watch your offense? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (42:00):
Down?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
What ten? Yes?
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Kick a field goal with it was a four seconds
left in the kick. Why would you kick a field
goal exactly?
Speaker 6 (42:06):
People are saying that they kicked the field goal so
that if there was enough time on the clock, so.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
They take it onside kick, get and you throw the
hail marry four seconds.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
It's like, I know, so I actually that Eric Mangini
introduced that idea one time, and I was like, oh,
this makes complete sense because obviously you can throw a
hail Mary further than you can kick a field goal.
So in order to say it conserve time, you you know,
get to a certain point where like, all right, we
feel good about field goal.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Range, let's kick it. Try to get the onside kick
because we need two scores.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Anyway, It kind of makes sense time wise, but not
in that instance, that felt like the fix was in.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Like the game was over. Was over, the game was
besides the spread beside the spread. Yeah, but the game
was over.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
I mean, I just I've never been a part of
the team that wouldn't want to try to take shots
to the end zone, right, you know.
Speaker 6 (42:55):
Not only that did the spread hit, the over also hit.
The over was forty and a half double way me. Well, listen,
I mean, you gotta stop being so negative about it.
What about the people on the other side.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
And furthermore, if you bet on Denver, I mean, you
get what you ask for like that. That's I'm sorry,
you can't trust them to win by a wide margin.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
And someone's got the red ass for Sean paid And
that's what I was about. Someone's got the red ass
for Sean Payton.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Who's that?
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Somebody? I don't know, someone someone out there? I mean,
is that?
Speaker 5 (43:27):
Is that what the Raiders up to now? Though they're
just trying to cover games. They're like, forget winning there
under talks all year. We're just trying to cover so
bad make it someone happy it was a win.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, somewhere Antonio Pears is smiling.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
I know that
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