March 2, 2026 • 41 mins
On this Monday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington recap the NFL Combine which came and went and even compare it to more WWE-like due to the entertainment value. Plus, the guys discuss Carnell Tate's 40 yard time, the Vikings cap moves & problems, a Mike Piazza edition of ICYMI, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Monday edition, we're gonna look back at
the NFL Combine lots to discuss performances that may or
may not have been slightly helped out by new rules
at the Combine in Indianapolis. And apparently there's one player
at the Combine in Indianapolis that was helped out by
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a major NFL reporter.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We'll get into that for you here.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We're also gonna have a conversation about what the plan
is in Minnesota, the Vikings out there making moves.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We've got a new.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Candidate for the room that is the quarterback room in Cleveland.
Apparently there's some ties between a top prospect and the
new Browns head coach, Todd Mounkin. We're gonna tell you
about the latest on the Jimmy Garoppolo run. He's made
one hundred and fifty million dollars in his career and
may have found himself a new home. And we're gonna
have the usual fun stuff in Shenanigans. It's all yours
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Speaker 2 (01:12):
That's more I like it. Two pros and a cup
of Joe.
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Yeah, we only expose who you are with your Musiceah. Yeah,
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Yeah, that's judgmental music, isn't It's.
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It's heavy to one side of the aisle. Okay, there
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you know, how's everybody doing?
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Is everybody all good? Good? We're all good here.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Combine came and went, and that'll do it for the NFL. Combine,
although apparently We've got a little bit of a debate
going on.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, what's a little bit of a Carnel Tate, the
wide receiver for Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's one of the headlines coming out of the combine.
So Carnel Tate finished within the four point four to
five four point four seven range for his forty according
to a batch of NFL executives and gms. According to Schefter,
but that differed from the official time of four to
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five two. So I'm trying to figure out where things
that's always been a thing, though, got sideways. Schefter posted
on Sunday morning, quote, Ohio State wide receiver Carnel Tate,
a potential top ten pick, was timed by several NFL
exktives and gms on Saturday with a forty time in
the range of four point four or five four point
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four seven.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But the official time is four point five two. Now, well,
hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
So did Schefter do this for any other players at
the combine who ran the forty?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I don't recall, and there was a lot that ran it.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Okay, Yeah, So let me ask you this, So are
we actually staying Brennan Thompson, who ran a four to
two sixth the wide receiver out of Mississippi State.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Does this mean that his was probably faster than that?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Is that what we're saying, like, how should we look
at the rest of the forty yard dash times? If
Adam Schefter is opening up Pandora's box, that apparently the
official times aren't all that accurate since some of the
teams do their own or most of the teams do
their own. H there you go, and yet their times
were like half a second faster.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
You'll get like two or three different times, but the
official time is generally always the slowest of all the
times that are recorded.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I know you think we're being serious, LeVar, but we
are not. So this segment is more about Adam Schefter
than anything else.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Oh yeah, I mean I I picked up on the
fact that you said he didn't do it with anyone else,
So okay, well go ahead, how about it.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
That's kind of my general point is as I look
at what's all transpired in the past few months, and
people need to understand this. You know, Disney bought into
the ownership of the NFL all right, their media properties.
They're working hand in hand in some ways. I would say,
you know, the Super Bowl. Since it was NBC's it
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wasn't really their opportunity to, I guess, shine or potentially
reveal what that relationship looks like. But now we have
one of the first instances where Adam Schefter doing something, which,
mind you, I don't recall him really doing before either.
Like I know he's always reported on different things that
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have come up with players, But to take a stance
where you're essentially treating about only one player specifically who
And again I don't want to get intwo in the
weeds and all this because you know, as far as
the forty dash yard dash times go, I remember, do
you guys remember when Tybreek Wohlan ran it, and he
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actually ran the fastest at that time, but they rolled
it back right, they took they made the official time
actually slower to like a four to two seven four
two eight.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And I know the trainer who is training some of
those guys.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And by the way, Matt Gates at XPE and him
and Tony Vallani, they have some of the fastest players
every single year who run in these and so it's
part of how they make their name. And I remember
him coming to me and I asked him and said,
what was the explanation for that?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And he's like, there really wasn't.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And they did that with some other players too, where
the official time actually was, you know, being rolled back
from what they initially showed, and so maybe that needs
some sort of explanation.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
But what I kind of see when I.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
When I first saw this was all right, he's doing
a favor for the agent, but also he's doing a
favor for the NFL. Because Carnel Tate's viewed as a
top ten pick. The only thing that would potentially hold
him back would be saying, oh, he's not quite explosive
or fast enough, which if you watch the tape and
you watch him play, you're not concerned about that. It's
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one of the reasons why I never put stock in
the combine anyway. But the fact that Schefter would do it,
it's revealing this to the fact that there's now this
relationship between ESPN and the NFL where he's going to
be that mouthpiece.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
To try to make things seem like.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Oh, okay, this is you know, we don't want to
scare guys off from coming here in the future if
they happen to run slow. When really he was like
the only guy who ran slow. It was a historical
year and guys running fast. So God, are the days
of someone just having a bad start. God are the
days of anyone like performing bad? Say hey, you know what,
I'll run better my pro day. No, we're just gonna
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make excuses or put out tweets like this to try to,
you know, buddy buddy up with the agent and make
sure that we don't hurt players coming here in the future. Like,
that's where this is going now. That's unfortunately how the
combine is. It's not as much suspense as it used
to be.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I like I like the phoniness, I like the catering
to I like it. It's it's one big hodgepodge of
brand building. I have the thought process of go do
the combine, don't put too much. If I'm a player,
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I'm not putting too much into what my performance is.
I'm gonna relax. I'm gonna do what I need to
do because the work has already been done. If you're
outside of my interview, that's it. Outside of my interview.
If you're gonna judge what I can do, awful what
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I did at the combine and not my body of work.
Then that's that's a decision that you gotta make. And
you weren't meant to draft me, and I wasn't meant
to be drafted by you. But what I would be
focused in on is making sure that I take full
advantage of the spotlight and the megaphone that is on
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the NFL combine. This is more of an age and
the era of building your brand. I mean we hear name,
image and likeness at nauseum. For college, it really does
mean your name and your image and your likeness. So
if you're going to the combine, go with a plan,
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have a plan on how you're going to maximize your
conversations with the media, what you want your message to bring,
what you wanted to be, all those different things. Because
to me, that's what this all is about. Brand building.
For Adam Schefter like he gets to to get inside information,
brand build voting for gms or coaches just fall asleep.
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You get to create a different element to how how
they view you. You know you've you've had that's brand building.
You've added to your brand. I mean I don't know
what that is. I mean sometimes superheroes get time Mattress firm.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
There's always an opportunity to maximize on what you do.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
So right, it might not be the coach of the
Jets anymore, but you know then you have more time,
is Mattress.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But the problem, though, is that if it's clear that
one of the insiders or reporters has an agenda or
is being fed like all of a sudden, it's hard
to take the event seriously if you know that people
are filtering information out there to try and make results
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different than what isn't that?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
What isn't that what an insider insider is supposed to
give you the information that people on the insider giving.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
It's time you can you can you start it and
stop it. There should be no agenda attached. It is
what it is. And he's coming out with different times now.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Because there's always different times there is. Every team keeps
their own own times. But I would also say for
them to then come out and not why do not
give Brent Thompson's hand times? Then if those are probably
gonna be closer to the record at four two one
four two two, like somewhere in that ballpark, because that's
how far off we're talking about the official time was
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to some of the reported handtimes that he had, why
not report that?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I mean, that's that's.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
The issue that I have with it is if you're
Adam Schefter and you're trying to represent ESPN or the
NFL and you are, let's just call what it is
like the go to insider, you have an obligation to
the public too.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
To me, this isn't about brand building. This is kind
of like where we are right now with our media,
our news media.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And I'm not trying to go into the news media
venture of that, but I think we all would agree.
I mean, it depends on which side they're talking from,
Like everything's manipulated, everything like there can't ever just be hey,
this is what his time was. There's a thought that
some people had them faster on the handtimes. And then
explain the fact that most teams have scouts, have coaches
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whoever hand timing them to because they want to have
a database of their own times. And one of the
reasons they want to have a database of their own
times is because every single year, the official timer some
of that stuff could change. And I said to you before,
guys who are in this industry where they basically train
these guys for six to eight to ten weeks and
turn them into track athletes. They are more in two
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with it than anyone. I mean, they're the ones that
are watching these guys run a preliminary forty and then
as they train, watching the splits, watching the numbers from then,
and so they know what these guys can hit. And
so when they have a series of guys who aren't
hitting those numbers even though they've been training for the
past two months to two and a half months, they
know that there's probably something off with the equipment. Because
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all these guys are highly invested in all this. But
the point is, like schefter has an obligation, at least
in my mind, to be able to provide information to
people in a manner that isn't.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Going to be manipulated.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
And unfortunately, like we as an audience have now grown
accustomed to all these agents feeding these insiders with whatever
they want to say. I mean, how many times do
we see a tweet that was like had like a
copy and paste you know section that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Wasn't edited off. Oh still happens.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
And it's crazy to me that like there's no checks
and balances of this. It's like all right, well, is
this what's good? I mean, and obviously with sports, so
we don't take it as seriously as we do with
other things, but it exists in other realms of our
life right now. So I looked at that and I
thought that was that was one of the things that
stood out to me as far as and I'd love
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to see what the ratings are because I'm sure they're
not hitting what they used to. Maybe with the new
data and big panel rating system, they'll prop it up somehow,
but it's losing its luster. It's not what it once was.
And I think part of that's the fact that you
just it kind of is what it is, and the
NFL never really figured out how to, you know, continue
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to make this thing grow, and so you know that
you're you're trying to do all you can with it.
And one of those things is making sure that they
get the top players to come to the combine and perform.
And by having Carnel Tates back as agents back, that's
one way of doing it for the future is guys saying, hey,
if you go there and even if you don't perform
that great, We'll make sure we got you covered. I mean,
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even and Now, look, maybe this is just Daniel, because
Daniels are super nice guy, but even the analysis, for
the most part, has become super kind. And I'm not
saying that like Mike Mayock. Mike Mayock and Daniel Jeremi
are not the same guy obviously, but it seems like
even the conversation around the performances are super kind and
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kind of soft, and if there's a misthrow, it's well,
this is the combat. It's hard to get timing down
with these guys.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
It didn't used to be that way.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
And so I feel like even the conversation around their
performance has changed as far as how critical guys are
going to be.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, because I mean, things that matter now didn't matter
too much before.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
People's emotions.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, y'all made fun of me, like talking about the
whole Anthony Richardson thing, But it's real. I'm telling you,
these kids are they rapped differently, man, They are different people,
and the culture and the society that is being being
catered to.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
And being entertained to play out this scenario. You're saying,
if he just pulled up at the thirty yard line
of the forty yard dash, they were still talking take
me out they finally that was an incredible thirty yard dash.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Chef, Chef exactly what I'm saying. It's the greatest thirty
yard dash of all.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Because the sensitivit ease, the sensitivities that these young men
have are also it has to be an adaptive an
adaptive approach by the agents and the agencies, so there
in turn going to become touch sensitive and very sensitive
about how things are handled as well. It's a it's
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a it's a trickle down effect. I'm telling you, these
dudes are different man, It's a different day and age.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Me say the quote tough times making tough dudes.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Tough times make tough dude, or hard times make tough dudes.
Tough dudes make easier times, easier times make what is
it make makes soft dudes soft dudes make hard times?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Repeat the process. It's something like that.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Maybe we're maybe we're in that cycle somewhere, but we
might be in the cycle of walk to work.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
We are going to get a lot harder.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
You know, granddad to work or great granddad walk to work.
Granddad drove a caddy to work, dead drove. I don't know,
a rain drover. I drove a Lamborghini. My son will
walk to work. Like the whole process. It just it's
it's kind of soft these days. It's kind of soft.
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It's also very catering, very catering culture.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You know, you mentioned you know in other you know,
news outlets, media or whatever that you know, the agenda,
the pushing a narrative.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It's kind of insulting to to a listener.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Or a viewer when they don't want to just give
you the information and let you sort it out and
let you figure out which side you fall on or
what your opinion is. They want to guide you along
in the process. This is how you should feel about it,
This is this is why you should feel this way
about it. No, how about these are just combine times
and results, and you just give us the information, the
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factual information, and let's just play this down the middle
and then we decide moving forward how we feel about
something and when it comes to this event, and if
that's basically what it is, it's turned into.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
A TV show.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I don't know about you, guys, but I can remember
when you were drafted, and I can remember watching from
that side of it and looking at it and going
it didn't feel like a TV show. It felt like
teams in the league trying to get better, and there
was a lot of great players like yourselves who were
providing organizations hope. There was no agenda being pushed, there
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was no like, there was nothing an insider trying to
get one guy's information out there over somebody else's because
he's buddy buddy with an agent. It was just a
draft so that teams could get better and players could
realize their dreams.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
And now it's a.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
TV show, a three day TV show that moves around
the country, and that's awesome. But I find it I
found myself less interested in this combine this year than
I have in recently.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
You just have to want to be interested, though. You
got to want to be interested for what you're interested.
But if it's not on the up and up, why
would I want to be interested. I mean, there's only
so much up and up you can get. Okay, you know,
if you're watching it for a pure entertainment value, if
a dude jump high, jumped high.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I mean, at least WWE is transparent around about it, like, hey,
this is what it is.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Is entertainment, okay, exactly say it is the same thing
though the NFL is the same thing as the WWE.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
All right, but it shouldn't be. But it is. O
that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
But it isn't a problem because you feel as though
it should be. You have invested in emotion and what
you think it should be. That means you've exercised some
ownership over how you feel about what they're doing. Didn't
I have a wellness coach speaking all it? Didn't I
have like a happy coach, a nice coach for the
Super Bowler this year that they made it a point
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to advertise about like we have a wellness coach or
whatever and nice, be nice to the people person for
the just because it was in San Francisco though, like
what I mean, hey, bro, you know, you know when
you were having a segment like this, it does make
you start to think about was it was it intentional
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for the super Bowl to be in San Francisco this year?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
It was a time like that. I remember the Super
Bowl in New York. It would not have been like that.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I think you would agree, Yeah, I mean they'd have
a guy being like get.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Them away, hey, hey shut that up, forget about it,
Go get gay go yeah, go to the DELLI, right, there.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, get out of here, Like listen, I'm just saying,
and that was maybe a different time in our culture,
in our society, Like I don't think for two seconds
that that wasn't a thought process. And where the super
Bowl was this year and more and more thinking about
it and the agendas that are are very very front
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of mine, very front and center. You know, the whole
equality you know, the the letters, the whole l G B, T,
q R S. Listen, I don't know all the letters,
but l G l G T, B anyway, the whole,
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the whole agenda of all about the whole agenda of
all of these different groups not touching it. Hey, listen,
there are there are cultural implications to not doing things
the right way. What what are having the back of
what are having the back of the end zones all
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year and and they continue to do.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It the back of alments changing. Yeah, it's there is.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
It's like those tweets where something happens, someone tweets something
out it immediately changes the situation.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
There's a culture shift. That's the l G B T
just put up a hashtag.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I think, by the way, I don't want to get
this confused or mixed with the fact that I love
Carnell Tate.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I think it's gonna be a great receiver in the NFL.
Figured it in.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I do care less about his forty yard dashtime because
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from now. But speaking of Minnesota and the Minnesota Timberwolves,
over to the Minnesota Vikings, who are making moves. They
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are making moves now. These moves aren't official yet, but
they have informed a couple of players currently on their
roster that they will probably most likely not be on
their roster.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Very much longer.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Those two would be Aaron Jones, and Javon Hargrave. The
Vikings have informed both that, barring a trade, they will
be released later this month. It will free up eighteen
plus million dollars in cap space that to go along
with whatever their plan is a quarterback to bring in
competition aka take the job from JJ McCarthy. The Minnesota
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Vikings appear to be wheeling and dealing thus far out
of it, out with the GM and in with a
brand new roster they're hoping with.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
What's interesting about this is, you know, it's not.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Atypical to see a team, you know, try to have
some cap savings and restructure the roster where they move
on from a general manager. So if you recall Quisya
do Fomensa was fired at the end of January. However,
they haven't hired to do general manager, have they.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
No, there was somebody who was the INTERM.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
So I believe that their executive vice president, Rob Brazinski
is actually handling the operations as of now. But what
makes that interesting is is just how much power now
maybe Kevin O'Connell has, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
That's what it kind of signs to me is as.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Much as this is a move where you're probably going
to do so anyway, I do wonder if you look
at the structure of the Vikings organization where some of
those players, maybe players that Quisy do Fo Menso spent on,
and and maybe Kevin O'Connell was saying, hey, man, like
that's not where a spending should be. You know, we
should be spending in other positions edge rusher, wide receiver dB,
you know, looking for a quarterback like we missed out
(25:32):
on Sam Darnold. He just won a Super Bowl at
the Seahawks. So maybe there were some conversations that were
had that you know, again led to Quissy Adolpho Mensas firing.
But also now some of these decisions as they're trying
to restructure their cap and get back to a better
place to build back up, and some of the names
rumored to you know, come in there compete Kyler Murray,
Geno Smith or two.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
That I saw, and I think it would make a
lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I think every quarterback, by the way, who is looking
at trying to revamp their career or or you know,
try to improve, you know, from here moving forward and
kind of grow and get better. It helps to have
Kevin O'Connell, and it sure Seck helps have Justin Jefferson,
So I'm sure that's a number one, one of the
top spots for a team that you could say they
(26:18):
got jaj McCarthy, But it feels like they're looking for
something that you could go restart your career again.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I don't know what they're going to do at at
the running backs position. I mean, right now, it looks
as though they have what Jordan Mason that that will
I guess lead the way and then Tye ty Chandler.
I think there are bigger issues here with the Vikings
(26:47):
than what may be perceived outside of it just being
about JJ McCarthy. I don't know if we've seen and listen,
I get all of the positive talk you got you
got to coach that that has done well with multiple
journeyman quarterbacks, but it just hasn't seemed to work out
(27:11):
with nine. You just you're coming off of a season
where it was the poor season for Jordans, I mean
for Justin's uh, Justin Smith and Justin jeffersonxcuse me, uh?
And I mean where was Jordan Addison? Did he have
a good year this year? I'm not sure if he
(27:32):
had a good.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
He missed the UH. I know he was suspended for
the first part, but that whole fall of sleep outside
the airport drunk I just set the set the tone
for the season.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I just think that I think they slept walk through
this season, and I don't know. Again, I always think
back to to what coach Campbell said and speaking of
the lines like listen, you don't never know if you're
ever going to make it back this far again, so
you try to take advantage of it as best you can.
(28:03):
I don't know that the Vikings are going to bounce
back or regroup and be a better team. They might
have had their opportunity where we considered them one of
the top teams in the league.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
They did really well.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
With Darnold at the helm, and that might have been
their moment. Again, there's question marks on the center's position.
There's there's going to be there. They're a little thin
at the linebackers position. They got some decent adge guys,
but they they gotta have depth there. I mean there
there are question marks. Can door Saw return back to
(28:39):
UH to to the to the you know form that
he was before his injuries. It's just to me, I
feel like there's a lot of questions and it's not
just uh, JJ McCarthy or somebody comes in and fixes it.
I'm not so sure that even if they you know,
Kyler Murray comes in, whatever, man, I'm not sure that
they return back to being the type of team we
(29:01):
saw them look like when Darnold was was the starter.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
The thing that makes it tricky to assess the vikings
is that it's not like they were bad last year.
I think they won their last five, they finished with
nine wins. It's not that they were an awful team.
And yet they're going out making all these moves and
firing their GM because yeah, it does feel like there's
sort of a hey, that was a quasy guy, that
was him, that was his guy, you know, and he's
(29:26):
got to go, and we're going to now take over
and kind of move this thing in a different direction.
And I look at the JJ McCarthy situation, I go,
I think he might be in the worst spot of
any starting quarterback in the league, because everybody wants that
team as far as quarterbacks go, every quarterback available would
want that team. Yet that team doesn't want JJ McCarthy.
(29:50):
So they're looking around for an answer outside the building.
When it was his for the taking, and it feels
and Kevin O'Connell made the point, and because there was
this report that came out last year that Diana Rossini said, well,
they're going to go with JJ McCarthy because they feel
like they have a three year window to compete, a
three year window to win a Super Bowl. And Kevin
(30:11):
O'Connell said, I think at the combine last week something
along the lines of, yeah, listen, the timelines have changed
a little bit, which sounded to me like, yeah, we
got to find an answer at quarterback and we don't.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Have one in the building.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
And it sucks he was injured and that's unfortunate, but
we just don't have an answer there and.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
We're going to go in a different direction.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I can tell you this much from what I know
that he wasn't the quarterback that they wonted in that
draft class.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
They they you know, they were looking at Drake May.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
There there's a few guys that they really really liked,
and they were trying to move heaven and Earth to
go get them, and he kind of fell to a
spot where they're like, okay, like we'll take him on.
But they knew bringing him on there was going to
be some developmental time needed in order for him to
be become the player that they thought it maybe could be.
(31:03):
So I wonder how much then, especially after Sam Darnald's
year there, if they looked at that and said, again,
going back to the relationship between Kevin O'Connor and quisi
Udo Famnsa, and this happens a lot of times, but
you kind of have to connect the dots. Once decisions
are made and one gets fired, one stays is you know,
he wasn't supplying Kevin O'Connell what he wanted or listening
(31:26):
to him and maybe giving him, you know, other players,
and then kind of building a roster that wasn't in
the vision of what Kevin O'Connell had. Whatever the case
may be, it sounds like there was a lot of
frustration watching Donald go win a Super Bowl, watching JJ
McCarthy struggle and seeing other guys continue to flourish. Drake
May he was a part of obviously the MVP conversation
(31:46):
this season. You know, he gets his team to the
super Bowl, Like I think that, you know, as the
playoffs started to ensue, probably was a breaking point for
that relationship, as in, like, hey, dude, I told you
about two guys that I wanted. You didn't get either,
And now look where they're playing, and imagine them on
our roster. What our season could have been, given that
(32:06):
we were nine and eight, we weren't necessarily, you know, that.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Far out of it.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
We could have been right there if we just would
have gotten a chance to get into the playoffs. So
I and then look, I'm not sure that Minnesota you know,
beats either the Rams or the Seahawks in this past
year's you know, playoff run. But at the end of
the day, I could see the frustration from Kevin O'Connell
if that was the disagreement. And oftentimes when you don't
(32:31):
have one that's overseeing all of it, I mean, he ultimately,
whatever decision the general manager makes, it has to be
in the eyes of Kevin O'Connell and what he's trying
to build and the vision he has for his team.
To me, it's it's never gonna work.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
And also the fact that Kevin O'Connell does have that
much power. I would be okay with that if I
was if I was a Vikings fan, knowing like, hey,
this is they basically chose right, they basically chose all
right this if this relationship between Questia Dolpa Menza and
Kevin O'Connell, if we've got to pick one, we're gonna
(33:06):
pick Kevin O'Connell. So it would make sense that he
would be the guy that would be the main decision maker,
maybe not by title, but maybe influence on roster decisions
moving forward.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And by the way, I think that's fair, right.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I mean, he's got a six thirty two win percentage
in his first four years as a head coach. He's
had three or four winning season's been to the playoffs
two of those years, won the division once.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I mean, he's he's been everything that I think they'd
hoped for.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
And I think if you keep supplying him with what
he wants, I think they look at it and say, yeah,
we can, like we can do even more. It's I
think they got to do more though, if he doesn't,
If he doesn't do more this year as the head coach,
I think this is a big year for him.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
And listen, I mean he's on the hot seat if
they don't win this year.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know that he gets out.
I'm not saying hot seat fired after this cot O.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
No, he's coming back. He's coming back.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I think this is a critical year for him as
the head coach of this team. I mean, he's he's
clearly got a nice record going, he's got a good,
good rapport. People like him, people believe in what he does.
But he hasn't had success in the playoffs, and he's.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
A fuse sup of the combine either. I think that
helps well.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I mean some would say he fell asleep and his
appearances in the playoffs jam. I mean he wasn't awake
sleep at the wheel. All I'm saying is, I think
this is now that you have made way by getting
rid of the GM. The poor year falls on the GM,
as we've all discussed, but now you have to assume
(34:48):
that now that spotlight goes on to the head coach
and what the head coach does. And I think that
this will be imperative for him, very critical for him
to have successful what he does this year. I don't
know how you make you if you feel good about
the running back room that you have right now, I
guess you get rid of Aaron Jones. I like Aaron Jones.
Maybe he's deteriorating, Maybe he's to the point now where
(35:09):
he can't be good enough. But I think you got
to have a good back or two. You gotta have
a good back or two. Quarterback is a question mark.
I don't think Whence steps in is the guy. I
don't think that you find a guy that's going to
make your team that much better in free agency. I
don't think it's a Kyler Murray that makes your team
(35:29):
magically better. I just I don't know how he makes
his team better than what it was. Where do you
find a center? You know, if you don't get your
center re signed, where do you get a new center?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I just you know.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I think there's a lot of question marks to me
for this Vikings team, and it'll be interesting to see
if O'Connell and company can actually pull things together and
go back in the direction that they were going in
when we saw them with Sam Darnold.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
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Speaker 2 (37:11):
In case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Guys, if you been following along on the wild Ride
of Shylah buff in New Orleans and tripping, yes, stray crash. Yeah,
he got arrested again. Apparently he said there were three
guys trying to touch his leg, which led to his reaction.
He might have thrown down or swung on a couple
of them, and next thing you know, he gets arrested again.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I think he just got arrested.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Earlier in the week. But he's at Marti Gras in
New Orleans and he's just walking around doing his thing.
I don't think he's with anybody, just kind of cruising, boozing, assaulting,
and doing a sit down interview with Channel five in
New Orleans in which he gave reason as to why
(37:58):
he always stops and takes pictures and signs autographs for
his fans, and it goes back to his experience growing
up a baseball fan.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Remember trying to get Mike Piazza's autograph, You know what
I mean, for my whole life from Mike Piazza.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Were waiting outside the every day this guy bro so Yeah,
we used to go to the Dodger games. Big Brothers
program used to get these tickets out.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
You go Dodger game, you know all them dudes would
be sitting in the parking lot.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Br Butler always signed Padello Normo always signed. Mike Piazza,
just a cold, hot Piazza. You're a bitch, bro. How
many times do you think he rejected signing up?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Every day?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Bro?
Speaker 8 (38:35):
I did it for I used to go out there
ninety times, probably rejecting me ninety times. So what it
did was, I'm gonna sign them all. So when I
got on, it was like, yo, Mike Piazza, So you
don't turn down any picture never never ever, and unless
I'm with my kid or I'm eating some food.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I do love how he goes never never, well, not
unless my kid eating some food clipped?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
How many other things did he say from that jackass
like this is one of the if you followed him,
grow up, man, grow up Mike Piazza.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
What fifty seven years old? Will whoop your ass? Oh? God?
Speaker 6 (39:14):
What?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
He hell?
Speaker 4 (39:16):
You?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Piazza? Are you right now? Yes?
Speaker 4 (39:20):
What? Seventy pounds on him?
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Now?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Obviously Labar is somebody who turns down autographs, some pictures
all the time.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
How does that read to you? Heya? It does?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
It did teach him a valuable lesson, though, you know,
he was out there, he was out there ninety times
and he was getting the cold shoulder, and you know what,
the guy remembered it. And that's what led to these
antics in this wild lifestyle that he's got going there
you go. So now you know, so if anybody wants
is looking around going, hey, how can I get on
the good side of a professional athlete? Don't wear him
(39:59):
out decades later because Deo Nomo signed your bat, your
souvenir bat, and Mike Piazza didn't, So that would be
that would be the lesson learned there.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
So shy Leba face to face, I mean.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Chile, he had he had some other interesting comments there
that we we cannot play on the air.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I'll just put it this way. Iron Chek would probably
be a big fan of a message for.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
You.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Probably a probably be a fan of him.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I don't know if guys you saw this, but uh
Brown Bag Mornings, uh the morning show out here on
Power one oh six in l A.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Byron Scott was on with the guys and for him to.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Go, Yeah, he basically just said, yeah, I'm ready for
Lebron to go. It's time, it's run its course, it's
worn out its welcome and he's ready for him to
get up on out of LA. And it just feels
like everybody's playing nice. We talked about it last week.
Who knows where he ends up, but it feels like
everybody out here in LA is ready.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
To go weird. Tom, Tom, you know you're good.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
You can go back to Cleveland, take whatever party you
want back to Cleveland. But it's over here, and it's
over Johnny, oh boy, Yeah, look man, right off the Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
That's how it works.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I mean where like, who else wants him ship me
off to Cleveland
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio
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at the Combine in Indianapolis that was helped out by
(00:21):
a major NFL reporter.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We'll get into that for you here.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We're also gonna have a conversation about what the plan
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
We've got a new.
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Speaker 2 (01:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, we only expose who you are with your Musiceah. Yeah,
that's pretty judgmental.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, that's judgmental music, isn't It's.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's heavy to one side of the aisle. Okay, there
you go.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Now, it's all good, not judge and you just just
you know, how's everybody doing?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
How was your week?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Here?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Is everybody all good? Good? We're all good here.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Combine came and went, and that'll do it for the NFL. Combine,
although apparently We've got a little bit of a debate
going on.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well, what's a little bit of a Carnel Tate, the
wide receiver for Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's one of the headlines coming out of the combine.
So Carnel Tate finished within the four point four to
five four point four seven range for his forty according
to a batch of NFL executives and gms. According to Schefter,
but that differed from the official time of four to
(02:43):
five two. So I'm trying to figure out where things
that's always been a thing, though, got sideways. Schefter posted
on Sunday morning, quote, Ohio State wide receiver Carnel Tate,
a potential top ten pick, was timed by several NFL
exktives and gms on Saturday with a forty time in
the range of four point four or five four point
(03:05):
four seven.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But the official time is four point five two. Now, well,
hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
So did Schefter do this for any other players at
the combine who ran the forty?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I don't recall, and there was a lot that ran it.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Okay, Yeah, So let me ask you this, So are
we actually staying Brennan Thompson, who ran a four to
two sixth the wide receiver out of Mississippi State.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Does this mean that his was probably faster than that?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Is that what we're saying, like, how should we look
at the rest of the forty yard dash times? If
Adam Schefter is opening up Pandora's box, that apparently the
official times aren't all that accurate since some of the
teams do their own or most of the teams do
their own. H there you go, and yet their times
were like half a second faster.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
You'll get like two or three different times, but the
official time is generally always the slowest of all the
times that are recorded.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I know you think we're being serious, LeVar, but we
are not. So this segment is more about Adam Schefter
than anything else.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Oh yeah, I mean I I picked up on the
fact that you said he didn't do it with anyone else,
So okay, well go ahead, how about it.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
That's kind of my general point is as I look
at what's all transpired in the past few months, and
people need to understand this. You know, Disney bought into
the ownership of the NFL all right, their media properties.
They're working hand in hand in some ways. I would say,
you know, the Super Bowl. Since it was NBC's it
(04:36):
wasn't really their opportunity to, I guess, shine or potentially
reveal what that relationship looks like. But now we have
one of the first instances where Adam Schefter doing something, which,
mind you, I don't recall him really doing before either.
Like I know he's always reported on different things that
(04:57):
have come up with players, But to take a stance
where you're essentially treating about only one player specifically who
And again I don't want to get intwo in the
weeds and all this because you know, as far as
the forty dash yard dash times go, I remember, do
you guys remember when Tybreek Wohlan ran it, and he
(05:18):
actually ran the fastest at that time, but they rolled
it back right, they took they made the official time
actually slower to like a four to two seven four
two eight.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And I know the trainer who is training some of
those guys.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And by the way, Matt Gates at XPE and him
and Tony Vallani, they have some of the fastest players
every single year who run in these and so it's
part of how they make their name. And I remember
him coming to me and I asked him and said,
what was the explanation for that?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And he's like, there really wasn't.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And they did that with some other players too, where
the official time actually was, you know, being rolled back
from what they initially showed, and so maybe that needs
some sort of explanation.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
But what I kind of see when I.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
When I first saw this was all right, he's doing
a favor for the agent, but also he's doing a
favor for the NFL. Because Carnel Tate's viewed as a
top ten pick. The only thing that would potentially hold
him back would be saying, oh, he's not quite explosive
or fast enough, which if you watch the tape and
you watch him play, you're not concerned about that. It's
(06:22):
one of the reasons why I never put stock in
the combine anyway. But the fact that Schefter would do it,
it's revealing this to the fact that there's now this
relationship between ESPN and the NFL where he's going to
be that mouthpiece.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
To try to make things seem like.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Oh, okay, this is you know, we don't want to
scare guys off from coming here in the future if
they happen to run slow. When really he was like
the only guy who ran slow. It was a historical
year and guys running fast. So God, are the days
of someone just having a bad start. God are the
days of anyone like performing bad? Say hey, you know what,
I'll run better my pro day. No, we're just gonna
(06:58):
make excuses or put out tweets like this to try to,
you know, buddy buddy up with the agent and make
sure that we don't hurt players coming here in the future. Like,
that's where this is going now. That's unfortunately how the
combine is. It's not as much suspense as it used
to be.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I like I like the phoniness, I like the catering
to I like it. It's it's one big hodgepodge of
brand building. I have the thought process of go do
the combine, don't put too much. If I'm a player,
(07:35):
I'm not putting too much into what my performance is.
I'm gonna relax. I'm gonna do what I need to
do because the work has already been done. If you're
outside of my interview, that's it. Outside of my interview.
If you're gonna judge what I can do, awful what
(07:56):
I did at the combine and not my body of work.
Then that's that's a decision that you gotta make. And
you weren't meant to draft me, and I wasn't meant
to be drafted by you. But what I would be
focused in on is making sure that I take full
advantage of the spotlight and the megaphone that is on
(08:19):
the NFL combine. This is more of an age and
the era of building your brand. I mean we hear name,
image and likeness at nauseum. For college, it really does
mean your name and your image and your likeness. So
if you're going to the combine, go with a plan,
(08:39):
have a plan on how you're going to maximize your
conversations with the media, what you want your message to bring,
what you wanted to be, all those different things. Because
to me, that's what this all is about. Brand building.
For Adam Schefter like he gets to to get inside information,
brand build voting for gms or coaches just fall asleep.
(09:03):
You get to create a different element to how how
they view you. You know you've you've had that's brand building.
You've added to your brand. I mean I don't know
what that is. I mean sometimes superheroes get time Mattress firm.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
There's always an opportunity to maximize on what you do.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
So right, it might not be the coach of the
Jets anymore, but you know then you have more time,
is Mattress.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But the problem, though, is that if it's clear that
one of the insiders or reporters has an agenda or
is being fed like all of a sudden, it's hard
to take the event seriously if you know that people
are filtering information out there to try and make results
(09:51):
different than what isn't that?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
What isn't that what an insider insider is supposed to
give you the information that people on the insider giving.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
It's time you can you can you start it and
stop it. There should be no agenda attached. It is
what it is. And he's coming out with different times now.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Because there's always different times there is. Every team keeps
their own own times. But I would also say for
them to then come out and not why do not
give Brent Thompson's hand times? Then if those are probably
gonna be closer to the record at four two one
four two two, like somewhere in that ballpark, because that's
how far off we're talking about the official time was
(10:30):
to some of the reported handtimes that he had, why
not report that?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I mean, that's that's.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
The issue that I have with it is if you're
Adam Schefter and you're trying to represent ESPN or the
NFL and you are, let's just call what it is
like the go to insider, you have an obligation to
the public too.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
To me, this isn't about brand building. This is kind
of like where we are right now with our media,
our news media.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And I'm not trying to go into the news media
venture of that, but I think we all would agree.
I mean, it depends on which side they're talking from,
Like everything's manipulated, everything like there can't ever just be hey,
this is what his time was. There's a thought that
some people had them faster on the handtimes. And then
explain the fact that most teams have scouts, have coaches
(11:19):
whoever hand timing them to because they want to have
a database of their own times. And one of the
reasons they want to have a database of their own
times is because every single year, the official timer some
of that stuff could change. And I said to you before,
guys who are in this industry where they basically train
these guys for six to eight to ten weeks and
turn them into track athletes. They are more in two
(11:41):
with it than anyone. I mean, they're the ones that
are watching these guys run a preliminary forty and then
as they train, watching the splits, watching the numbers from then,
and so they know what these guys can hit. And
so when they have a series of guys who aren't
hitting those numbers even though they've been training for the
past two months to two and a half months, they
know that there's probably something off with the equipment. Because
(12:04):
all these guys are highly invested in all this. But
the point is, like schefter has an obligation, at least
in my mind, to be able to provide information to
people in a manner that isn't.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Going to be manipulated.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
And unfortunately, like we as an audience have now grown
accustomed to all these agents feeding these insiders with whatever
they want to say. I mean, how many times do
we see a tweet that was like had like a
copy and paste you know section that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Wasn't edited off. Oh still happens.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
And it's crazy to me that like there's no checks
and balances of this. It's like all right, well, is
this what's good? I mean, and obviously with sports, so
we don't take it as seriously as we do with
other things, but it exists in other realms of our
life right now. So I looked at that and I
thought that was that was one of the things that
stood out to me as far as and I'd love
(12:55):
to see what the ratings are because I'm sure they're
not hitting what they used to. Maybe with the new
data and big panel rating system, they'll prop it up somehow,
but it's losing its luster. It's not what it once was.
And I think part of that's the fact that you
just it kind of is what it is, and the
NFL never really figured out how to, you know, continue
(13:15):
to make this thing grow, and so you know that
you're you're trying to do all you can with it.
And one of those things is making sure that they
get the top players to come to the combine and perform.
And by having Carnel Tates back as agents back, that's
one way of doing it for the future is guys saying, hey,
if you go there and even if you don't perform
that great, We'll make sure we got you covered. I mean,
(13:37):
even and Now, look, maybe this is just Daniel, because
Daniels are super nice guy, but even the analysis, for
the most part, has become super kind. And I'm not
saying that like Mike Mayock. Mike Mayock and Daniel Jeremi
are not the same guy obviously, but it seems like
even the conversation around the performances are super kind and
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kind of soft, and if there's a misthrow, it's well,
this is the combat. It's hard to get timing down
with these guys.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
It didn't used to be that way.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
And so I feel like even the conversation around their
performance has changed as far as how critical guys are
going to be.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, because I mean, things that matter now didn't matter
too much before.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
People's emotions.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, y'all made fun of me, like talking about the
whole Anthony Richardson thing, But it's real. I'm telling you,
these kids are they rapped differently, man, They are different people,
and the culture and the society that is being being
catered to.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
And being entertained to play out this scenario. You're saying,
if he just pulled up at the thirty yard line
of the forty yard dash, they were still talking take
me out they finally that was an incredible thirty yard dash.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Chef, Chef exactly what I'm saying. It's the greatest thirty
yard dash of all.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Because the sensitivit ease, the sensitivities that these young men
have are also it has to be an adaptive an
adaptive approach by the agents and the agencies, so there
in turn going to become touch sensitive and very sensitive
about how things are handled as well. It's a it's
(15:19):
a it's a trickle down effect. I'm telling you, these
dudes are different man, It's a different day and age.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Me say the quote tough times making tough dudes.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Tough times make tough dude, or hard times make tough dudes.
Tough dudes make easier times, easier times make what is
it make makes soft dudes soft dudes make hard times?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Repeat the process. It's something like that.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Maybe we're maybe we're in that cycle somewhere, but we
might be in the cycle of walk to work.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
We are going to get a lot harder.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
You know, granddad to work or great granddad walk to work.
Granddad drove a caddy to work, dead drove. I don't know,
a rain drover. I drove a Lamborghini. My son will
walk to work. Like the whole process. It just it's
it's kind of soft these days. It's kind of soft.
(16:19):
It's also very catering, very catering culture.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You know, you mentioned you know in other you know,
news outlets, media or whatever that you know, the agenda,
the pushing a narrative.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It's kind of insulting to to a listener.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Or a viewer when they don't want to just give
you the information and let you sort it out and
let you figure out which side you fall on or
what your opinion is. They want to guide you along
in the process. This is how you should feel about it,
This is this is why you should feel this way
about it. No, how about these are just combine times
and results, and you just give us the information, the
(16:56):
factual information, and let's just play this down the middle
and then we decide moving forward how we feel about
something and when it comes to this event, and if
that's basically what it is, it's turned into.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
A TV show.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I don't know about you, guys, but I can remember
when you were drafted, and I can remember watching from
that side of it and looking at it and going
it didn't feel like a TV show. It felt like
teams in the league trying to get better, and there
was a lot of great players like yourselves who were
providing organizations hope. There was no agenda being pushed, there
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was no like, there was nothing an insider trying to
get one guy's information out there over somebody else's because
he's buddy buddy with an agent. It was just a
draft so that teams could get better and players could
realize their dreams.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
And now it's a.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
TV show, a three day TV show that moves around
the country, and that's awesome. But I find it I
found myself less interested in this combine this year than
I have in recently.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
You just have to want to be interested, though. You
got to want to be interested for what you're interested.
But if it's not on the up and up, why
would I want to be interested. I mean, there's only
so much up and up you can get. Okay, you know,
if you're watching it for a pure entertainment value, if
a dude jump high, jumped high.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I mean, at least WWE is transparent around about it, like, hey,
this is what it is.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Is entertainment, okay, exactly say it is the same thing
though the NFL is the same thing as the WWE.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
All right, but it shouldn't be. But it is. O
that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
But it isn't a problem because you feel as though
it should be. You have invested in emotion and what
you think it should be. That means you've exercised some
ownership over how you feel about what they're doing. Didn't
I have a wellness coach speaking all it? Didn't I
have like a happy coach, a nice coach for the
Super Bowler this year that they made it a point
(18:57):
to advertise about like we have a wellness coach or
whatever and nice, be nice to the people person for
the just because it was in San Francisco though, like
what I mean, hey, bro, you know, you know when
you were having a segment like this, it does make
you start to think about was it was it intentional
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for the super Bowl to be in San Francisco this year?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
It was a time like that. I remember the Super
Bowl in New York. It would not have been like that.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I think you would agree, Yeah, I mean they'd have
a guy being like get.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Them away, hey, hey shut that up, forget about it,
Go get gay go yeah, go to the DELLI, right, there.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, get out of here, Like listen, I'm just saying,
and that was maybe a different time in our culture,
in our society, Like I don't think for two seconds
that that wasn't a thought process. And where the super
Bowl was this year and more and more thinking about
it and the agendas that are are very very front
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of mine, very front and center. You know, the whole
equality you know, the the letters, the whole l G B, T,
q R S. Listen, I don't know all the letters,
but l G l G T, B anyway, the whole,
(20:19):
the whole agenda of all about the whole agenda of
all of these different groups not touching it. Hey, listen,
there are there are cultural implications to not doing things
the right way. What what are having the back of
what are having the back of the end zones all
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year and and they continue to do.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It the back of alments changing. Yeah, it's there is.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
It's like those tweets where something happens, someone tweets something
out it immediately changes the situation.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
There's a culture shift. That's the l G B T
just put up a hashtag.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I think, by the way, I don't want to get
this confused or mixed with the fact that I love
Carnell Tate.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I think it's gonna be a great receiver in the NFL.
Figured it in.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
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from now. But speaking of Minnesota and the Minnesota Timberwolves,
over to the Minnesota Vikings, who are making moves. They
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are making moves now. These moves aren't official yet, but
they have informed a couple of players currently on their
roster that they will probably most likely not be on
their roster.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Very much longer.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Those two would be Aaron Jones, and Javon Hargrave. The
Vikings have informed both that, barring a trade, they will
be released later this month. It will free up eighteen
plus million dollars in cap space that to go along
with whatever their plan is a quarterback to bring in
competition aka take the job from JJ McCarthy. The Minnesota
(24:24):
Vikings appear to be wheeling and dealing thus far out
of it, out with the GM and in with a
brand new roster they're hoping with.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
What's interesting about this is, you know, it's not.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Atypical to see a team, you know, try to have
some cap savings and restructure the roster where they move
on from a general manager. So if you recall Quisya
do Fomensa was fired at the end of January. However,
they haven't hired to do general manager, have they.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
No, there was somebody who was the INTERM.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
So I believe that their executive vice president, Rob Brazinski
is actually handling the operations as of now. But what
makes that interesting is is just how much power now
maybe Kevin O'Connell has, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
That's what it kind of signs to me is as.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Much as this is a move where you're probably going
to do so anyway, I do wonder if you look
at the structure of the Vikings organization where some of
those players, maybe players that Quisy do Fo Menso spent on,
and and maybe Kevin O'Connell was saying, hey, man, like
that's not where a spending should be. You know, we
should be spending in other positions edge rusher, wide receiver dB,
you know, looking for a quarterback like we missed out
(25:32):
on Sam Darnold. He just won a Super Bowl at
the Seahawks. So maybe there were some conversations that were
had that you know, again led to Quissy Adolpho Mensas firing.
But also now some of these decisions as they're trying
to restructure their cap and get back to a better
place to build back up, and some of the names
rumored to you know, come in there compete Kyler Murray,
Geno Smith or two.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
That I saw, and I think it would make a
lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I think every quarterback, by the way, who is looking
at trying to revamp their career or or you know,
try to improve, you know, from here moving forward and
kind of grow and get better. It helps to have
Kevin O'Connell, and it sure Seck helps have Justin Jefferson,
So I'm sure that's a number one, one of the
top spots for a team that you could say they
(26:18):
got jaj McCarthy, But it feels like they're looking for
something that you could go restart your career again.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I don't know what they're going to do at at
the running backs position. I mean, right now, it looks
as though they have what Jordan Mason that that will
I guess lead the way and then Tye ty Chandler.
I think there are bigger issues here with the Vikings
(26:47):
than what may be perceived outside of it just being
about JJ McCarthy. I don't know if we've seen and listen,
I get all of the positive talk you got you
got to coach that that has done well with multiple
journeyman quarterbacks, but it just hasn't seemed to work out
(27:11):
with nine. You just you're coming off of a season
where it was the poor season for Jordans, I mean
for Justin's uh, Justin Smith and Justin jeffersonxcuse me, uh?
And I mean where was Jordan Addison? Did he have
a good year this year? I'm not sure if he
(27:32):
had a good.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
He missed the UH. I know he was suspended for
the first part, but that whole fall of sleep outside
the airport drunk I just set the set the tone
for the season.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I just think that I think they slept walk through
this season, and I don't know. Again, I always think
back to to what coach Campbell said and speaking of
the lines like listen, you don't never know if you're
ever going to make it back this far again, so
you try to take advantage of it as best you can.
(28:03):
I don't know that the Vikings are going to bounce
back or regroup and be a better team. They might
have had their opportunity where we considered them one of
the top teams in the league.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
They did really well.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
With Darnold at the helm, and that might have been
their moment. Again, there's question marks on the center's position.
There's there's going to be there. They're a little thin
at the linebackers position. They got some decent adge guys,
but they they gotta have depth there. I mean there
there are question marks. Can door Saw return back to
(28:39):
UH to to the to the you know form that
he was before his injuries. It's just to me, I
feel like there's a lot of questions and it's not
just uh, JJ McCarthy or somebody comes in and fixes it.
I'm not so sure that even if they you know,
Kyler Murray comes in, whatever, man, I'm not sure that
they return back to being the type of team we
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saw them look like when Darnold was was the starter.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
The thing that makes it tricky to assess the vikings
is that it's not like they were bad last year.
I think they won their last five, they finished with
nine wins. It's not that they were an awful team.
And yet they're going out making all these moves and
firing their GM because yeah, it does feel like there's
sort of a hey, that was a quasy guy, that
was him, that was his guy, you know, and he's
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got to go, and we're going to now take over
and kind of move this thing in a different direction.
And I look at the JJ McCarthy situation, I go,
I think he might be in the worst spot of
any starting quarterback in the league, because everybody wants that
team as far as quarterbacks go, every quarterback available would
want that team. Yet that team doesn't want JJ McCarthy.
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So they're looking around for an answer outside the building.
When it was his for the taking, and it feels
and Kevin O'Connell made the point, and because there was
this report that came out last year that Diana Rossini said, well,
they're going to go with JJ McCarthy because they feel
like they have a three year window to compete, a
three year window to win a Super Bowl. And Kevin
(30:11):
O'Connell said, I think at the combine last week something
along the lines of, yeah, listen, the timelines have changed
a little bit, which sounded to me like, yeah, we
got to find an answer at quarterback and we don't.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Have one in the building.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
And it sucks he was injured and that's unfortunate, but
we just don't have an answer there and.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
We're going to go in a different direction.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I can tell you this much from what I know
that he wasn't the quarterback that they wonted in that
draft class.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
They they you know, they were looking at Drake May.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
There there's a few guys that they really really liked,
and they were trying to move heaven and Earth to
go get them, and he kind of fell to a
spot where they're like, okay, like we'll take him on.
But they knew bringing him on there was going to
be some developmental time needed in order for him to
be become the player that they thought it maybe could be.
(31:03):
So I wonder how much then, especially after Sam Darnald's
year there, if they looked at that and said, again,
going back to the relationship between Kevin O'Connor and quisi
Udo Famnsa, and this happens a lot of times, but
you kind of have to connect the dots. Once decisions
are made and one gets fired, one stays is you know,
he wasn't supplying Kevin O'Connell what he wanted or listening
(31:26):
to him and maybe giving him, you know, other players,
and then kind of building a roster that wasn't in
the vision of what Kevin O'Connell had. Whatever the case
may be, it sounds like there was a lot of
frustration watching Donald go win a Super Bowl, watching JJ
McCarthy struggle and seeing other guys continue to flourish. Drake
May he was a part of obviously the MVP conversation
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this season. You know, he gets his team to the
super Bowl, Like I think that, you know, as the
playoffs started to ensue, probably was a breaking point for
that relationship, as in, like, hey, dude, I told you
about two guys that I wanted. You didn't get either,
And now look where they're playing, and imagine them on
our roster. What our season could have been, given that
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we were nine and eight, we weren't necessarily, you know, that.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Far out of it.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
We could have been right there if we just would
have gotten a chance to get into the playoffs. So
I and then look, I'm not sure that Minnesota you know,
beats either the Rams or the Seahawks in this past
year's you know, playoff run. But at the end of
the day, I could see the frustration from Kevin O'Connell
if that was the disagreement. And oftentimes when you don't
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have one that's overseeing all of it, I mean, he ultimately,
whatever decision the general manager makes, it has to be
in the eyes of Kevin O'Connell and what he's trying
to build and the vision he has for his team.
To me, it's it's never gonna work.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
And also the fact that Kevin O'Connell does have that
much power. I would be okay with that if I
was if I was a Vikings fan, knowing like, hey,
this is they basically chose right, they basically chose all
right this if this relationship between Questia Dolpa Menza and
Kevin O'Connell, if we've got to pick one, we're gonna
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pick Kevin O'Connell. So it would make sense that he
would be the guy that would be the main decision maker,
maybe not by title, but maybe influence on roster decisions
moving forward.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And by the way, I think that's fair, right.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I mean, he's got a six thirty two win percentage
in his first four years as a head coach. He's
had three or four winning season's been to the playoffs
two of those years, won the division once.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I mean, he's he's been everything that I think they'd
hoped for.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
And I think if you keep supplying him with what
he wants, I think they look at it and say, yeah,
we can, like we can do even more. It's I
think they got to do more though, if he doesn't,
If he doesn't do more this year as the head coach,
I think this is a big year for him.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
And listen, I mean he's on the hot seat if
they don't win this year.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know that he gets out.
I'm not saying hot seat fired after this cot O.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
No, he's coming back. He's coming back.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I think this is a critical year for him as
the head coach of this team. I mean, he's he's
clearly got a nice record going, he's got a good,
good rapport. People like him, people believe in what he does.
But he hasn't had success in the playoffs, and he's.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
A fuse sup of the combine either. I think that
helps well.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I mean some would say he fell asleep and his
appearances in the playoffs jam. I mean he wasn't awake
sleep at the wheel. All I'm saying is, I think
this is now that you have made way by getting
rid of the GM. The poor year falls on the GM,
as we've all discussed, but now you have to assume
(34:48):
that now that spotlight goes on to the head coach
and what the head coach does. And I think that
this will be imperative for him, very critical for him
to have successful what he does this year. I don't
know how you make you if you feel good about
the running back room that you have right now, I
guess you get rid of Aaron Jones. I like Aaron Jones.
Maybe he's deteriorating, Maybe he's to the point now where
(35:09):
he can't be good enough. But I think you got
to have a good back or two. You gotta have
a good back or two. Quarterback is a question mark.
I don't think Whence steps in is the guy. I
don't think that you find a guy that's going to
make your team that much better in free agency. I
don't think it's a Kyler Murray that makes your team
(35:29):
magically better. I just I don't know how he makes
his team better than what it was. Where do you
find a center? You know, if you don't get your
center re signed, where do you get a new center?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I just you know.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I think there's a lot of question marks to me
for this Vikings team, and it'll be interesting to see
if O'Connell and company can actually pull things together and
go back in the direction that they were going in
when we saw them with Sam Darnold.
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Speaker 5 (37:04):
Sometimes he can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to
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Speaker 2 (37:11):
In case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Guys, if you been following along on the wild Ride
of Shylah buff in New Orleans and tripping, yes, stray crash. Yeah,
he got arrested again. Apparently he said there were three
guys trying to touch his leg, which led to his reaction.
He might have thrown down or swung on a couple
of them, and next thing you know, he gets arrested again.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I think he just got arrested.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Earlier in the week. But he's at Marti Gras in
New Orleans and he's just walking around doing his thing.
I don't think he's with anybody, just kind of cruising, boozing, assaulting,
and doing a sit down interview with Channel five in
New Orleans in which he gave reason as to why
(37:58):
he always stops and takes pictures and signs autographs for
his fans, and it goes back to his experience growing
up a baseball fan.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Remember trying to get Mike Piazza's autograph, You know what
I mean, for my whole life from Mike Piazza.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Were waiting outside the every day this guy bro so Yeah,
we used to go to the Dodger games. Big Brothers
program used to get these tickets out.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
You go Dodger game, you know all them dudes would
be sitting in the parking lot.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Br Butler always signed Padello Normo always signed. Mike Piazza,
just a cold, hot Piazza. You're a bitch, bro. How
many times do you think he rejected signing up?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Every day?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Bro?
Speaker 8 (38:35):
I did it for I used to go out there
ninety times, probably rejecting me ninety times. So what it
did was, I'm gonna sign them all. So when I
got on, it was like, yo, Mike Piazza, So you
don't turn down any picture never never ever, and unless
I'm with my kid or I'm eating some food.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I do love how he goes never never, well, not
unless my kid eating some food clipped?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
How many other things did he say from that jackass
like this is one of the if you followed him,
grow up, man, grow up Mike Piazza.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
What fifty seven years old? Will whoop your ass? Oh? God?
Speaker 6 (39:14):
What?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
He hell?
Speaker 4 (39:16):
You?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Piazza? Are you right now? Yes?
Speaker 4 (39:20):
What? Seventy pounds on him?
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Now?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Obviously Labar is somebody who turns down autographs, some pictures
all the time.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
How does that read to you? Heya? It does?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
It did teach him a valuable lesson, though, you know,
he was out there, he was out there ninety times
and he was getting the cold shoulder, and you know what,
the guy remembered it. And that's what led to these
antics in this wild lifestyle that he's got going there
you go. So now you know, so if anybody wants
is looking around going, hey, how can I get on
the good side of a professional athlete? Don't wear him
(39:59):
out decades later because Deo Nomo signed your bat, your
souvenir bat, and Mike Piazza didn't, So that would be
that would be the lesson learned there.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
So shy Leba face to face, I mean.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Chile, he had he had some other interesting comments there
that we we cannot play on the air.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I'll just put it this way. Iron Chek would probably
be a big fan of a message for.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
You.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Probably a probably be a fan of him.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I don't know if guys you saw this, but uh
Brown Bag Mornings, uh the morning show out here on
Power one oh six in l A.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Byron Scott was on with the guys and for him to.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Go, Yeah, he basically just said, yeah, I'm ready for
Lebron to go. It's time, it's run its course, it's
worn out its welcome and he's ready for him to
get up on out of LA. And it just feels
like everybody's playing nice. We talked about it last week.
Who knows where he ends up, but it feels like
everybody out here in LA is ready.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
To go weird. Tom, Tom, you know you're good.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
You can go back to Cleveland, take whatever party you
want back to Cleveland. But it's over here, and it's
over Johnny, oh boy, Yeah, look man, right off the Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
That's how it works.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I mean where like, who else wants him ship me
off to Cleveland
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