August 27, 2024 • 37 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys are back, breaking down the CeeDee Lamb extension. NFL owners continue to nickel and dime players. Plus, Belichick agrees with the guys on the new kickoff rules.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here coming up on this Tuesday edition.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
We are back.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's not like we were anywhere yesterday other than filling
in on the Herd, but we are going to have
the conversation that we had yesterday with you here about C. D.
Lamb and the signing in Dallas, and also some interesting
comments from Mike McCarthy about his future and what it
looks like in Dallas beyond twenty twenty four. We're also
going to have a discussion about a backup quarterback move
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and apparently a rule that was vetoed or not vetoed
in the NFL very confusing. We will discuss all that.
We're also going to talk about a lawsuit involving somebody
who could be starring in college football very very soon.
We've got the very latest on these situations in San
Francisco involving Trent Williams and what that looks like. Plus
we've got an FSRIR, We've got another edition of In
(00:51):
case you missed it, The Great Pete Prisco's going to
stop by and we've got you in and you out
it's all yours coming up next here, two pros and
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Speaker 1 (01:03):
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Speaker 3 (01:16):
Come on, bar, I will not partake.
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Why not, guys, I don't want to.
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I'm a guned.
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a Tuesday morning, a little earlier than we started yesterday?
Not great, Jonas, I mean you tryed to say you're
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gonna change up your song I did send it over,
got confirmation, not changing the system.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I don't have to tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And it is a It is a banger as well, too,
a little festive for you close out the summer here
as we get ready for football season. So that's where
we stand. Have you guys sent over your new song
request or I have not yet?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh no, I'm so sorry. Come on, var, I'm so sorry.
Let's go. I'm so sorry. No, it's okay.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I am negligent, all right, So I'm insufficient in that.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Category so far.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, it's all right, all right, no problem.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Now, also with you, I just thought that song that
played was Jonas's new song, just a different variation of it.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well, no, there's there's a crowd.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
That's a really good and I mean, I'll be honest, like,
I literally thought it was a new song, just a
different variation.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
There's like a crowd went back to the well. Well, no, like,
have you guys noticed that?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You know?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
That's funny they all sound to say the song sounds.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I mean, I didn't say that.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
That's you people, man Lee told me before the break,
asked what's playing? He said, it sounds like that when
you're driving through Taco Bell. Oh no, those are not
my words. Those I mean that comes from Lee to Ladd.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I hope, uh, you know, hope. But none of the
in laws are listening. Why not?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I can't imagine why. Well, listen, there's a reason why
Lorraino plays.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Remember when Taco.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Bell you just had the slogan make a run for
the border. Yeah, that's just sad. That was a thing
they actually had. That slogan was a slogan.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It was.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It was a slogan like the late eighties nineties.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, no, it definitely was, and it did bail right
for the border.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, there you go. Man oh man, listen, man.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Jonas would hear that bell and something else would happen.
He couldn't stand up. He was so excited.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah it was my wedding.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Oh oh no, sorry was what it was.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So that being said, we now transition smoothly over to
this where the deal is done for Brendan ayuk No,
definitely not him, that would that would be too easy
here but ceedee lamb. We were on the air yesterday
filling in for Colin Coward on the Herd when the
announcement was made four years one hundred and thirty six
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million dollars that.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Never happens to us no ever.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Thanks College, Thanks for letting us have your time slide
so that we could get the breaking.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Hey, by the way, I don't know if she was
being a smart ass, but we were talking about the
Schefter tweet where it seemed like he Brady made the
pointy copy and pasted whatever the press release was that
he got via email or however you got notified of
the deal getting done. And I don't know if she
was being a smart ass, because it seems like a
smart ass move that she would make. Diana Rassini literally
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posted the exact same thing that Adam Schefter had sent,
So I don't know if that's just, you know, people
trying to needle each.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Other as her yes, her release. Yes, Oh, I don't
know if that was I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
To tell you guys.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
They have relationships with these agents, and these agents want
them to speak verbatim with their It's almost like a
press release that's an essence. It's an unofficial press release
that they're making, and it's it's why I looked at
the contract. I'm like, why do they do this? They
know it's not the highest they know it. It's not
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so why would they do this? Who's the agent?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
By the way, it doesn't matter. All agents do it,
and by the way, all insiders do it. I mean
they all basically say, I'm not going to call people out,
but they all do.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Some variation of this.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
There's only a few that I know that I think
personally say I'm not gonna say exactly that, but I'll
basically give the gist of what they want me to say.
But for a lot of the insiders, it's a copy
and paste.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Man.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
We've seen multiple people get caught before literally copying and pasting.
And you'll see sometimes too, and I don't want this
to come off the wrong way, but you'll see some
insiders that have like a really really deep perspective on
like a guy who's you know, getting traded for a
conditional seventh and it's going to be maybe like a
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third string something, you know, Like they'll they'll announce that
it's like, Okay, this came straight from the agent.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
That's usually how it works.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Okay, So if the whoever the reporter is pushing back
and says, no, listen, I'm not playing that game with you.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
They're just asked out.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I'm not playing that game.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
They're cut off, then that agent doesn't give them scoops anymore.
So that's unfortunately, what's like a potentially at risk for
some of those people who will build their reputation off
being an insider.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It's a weird, weird deal. And well, at least Pete
Prisco is going to join us an hour three. He
can clear up some of this nonsense.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Oh, I trust me, and he won't pull punch this,
so he will go all in.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So that being said, now that the deal is done
and we've had a little bit more time.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Tory Dandy, do we know who he is? Who Tory Dandy?
I believe is the agent Tory Dandy.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, I'm not familiar.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
We don't know who he is.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I'm more of a David Mulligata guy myself. But again,
everybody's got a favorite in every line.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Of Dandy's negotiated more than a billion in active contracts
honest clients.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah. Interesting, that's according to his ex account.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So that being said, now that the deal is done,
we wait to see whether or not Dak Prescott's deal
gets done.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We wait to.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
See whether the other deals get done. Any further thoughts
on this contract now that we've had a little bit
more time to think about it, because I'll be honest
with you, I don't have any So if I don't.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Know you, I mean the devil's in the details.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
I haven't seen any specifics outside of the sidding bonus,
which is significant for a wide receiver. So that's great.
Total value seems about right there where it should be.
So look for whatever however long it took us to
get here, Ceedee Lamb got an awesome extension. He's gotten
rewarded for what he's done. Credit to him and his agent,
(08:48):
Dandy Uh forgetting it done. And I'm just saying that
they should they should be happy about this.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Is this headline rescue Jim Danny to remember that show
that song from Overboard in nineteen sixty Yeah, the movie
from Overboard.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I'm telling you that was a song inside the movie.
Maybe that's who he is.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Could Lee has that doubt up somewhere, but I know
I don't remember that, and nor do I really understand
where we're going on.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I think it's Tory Dandy's his agent, but I digress.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
It's it's a competitive contract for Justin Jefferson, right like that,
if that's what you're trying to accomplish, he accomplished that.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I don't know that Brandon a Yuke. I don't think
he's gonna surpass this.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Contract, and Jamar Chase is probably the only one that will.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But I think it's gonna be a year from now.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
But you are, uh, you know, I'm curious about Jamar
Chase if if it takes place a year from now,
like I said, I think it damages. I think it
damages the relationship. I think it does. Are there hord
feelings after? I don't know? And and then the next
question is I will throw this at you, Q, is
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the is the contract than Justin Jefferson's.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
If it's going to be a year from this, I
can definitively tell you we'll be higher it.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Look.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Look, the reason is is he still has two years
left on his deal. So you know, Jonas kind of
talked about the money that he's going to be making
this year. He's only making a base salary about a million,
and he got paid on you know, signing the signing
bonus that got pro rated over the course of his contract.
So he's already got that, so he's not making a
ton from a salary standpoint.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
He's got a nice roster bonus.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
I mean, he's in cash as far as paid out,
it's roughly about ten million. But next year is the
year where jumps up to almost twenty two because his
fifty year option. But but the point is is you
have Higgins under the franchise tag. You got Burrow under
his second contract. You know, if you're the Bengals, it's
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as much as you'd like to probably do the deal now,
I just don't think they're going to have the cash
to give him the signing bonus that he wants to
be able to make this work. Because with two years
left on his deal, you could sign them to a
three or four year extension and you can really sign,
you know, spread out that signing bonus to help reduce
the cap hit. The problem is is, I don't know
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that the Bengals have the cash, and I don't know
that they can time it out that way with the
cap space they've got at this point in time of
the year.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Is there a possibility, I mean maybe it's probably not
conceivable with who they've cut, but roster wise, cutting down,
the cutting down the roster to the fifty three man roster.
Is that I think it's fifty three still? Is it
still Fife? Still fifty three?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Does that create space to now do a deal if
you're saying fran or if you're you know, if you're Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Not really And for this reason, you know, the Bengals
right now have about eighteen point one million of cap space,
and spow track does a great job.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
If people are listening want to go and like check
the stuff out.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
They make it available for people to look as well,
so you can kind of track it. You do eventually
have to like log in and buy a subscription if
you want more.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
However, you could look this stuff up.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
They do it for the top fifty one contracts on
the roster, so for the most part, there's not a
lot of change you can make at this point. I mean, really,
the guy who's going to much like mahomes in Kansas City,
the guy who's going to be your mortgage company is
Joe Burrow or you know, you're gonna be able to
convert some of his money's into you know, guarantees and
different bonuses to help create cap space.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
But they've got eighteen point.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
One million, and that's literally middle of the pack right
now in the NFL, and so there's not a ton
more space they can probably create unless they do a
bunch of conversions of some of these contracts that they've
got on hand, which it's tough to do. For example,
you'd have to extend Higgins. Higgins is one of them
that's a twenty some million dollar cap hit this year,
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and you could probably reduce with an extension. But I
don't think they're going to extend them. I think Chase
is the one they want to extend. They know they
can only extend one to them, like they want to
be paid to surpass Justin Jefferson for the long run.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Listen, it was a fun story while I lasted. You know,
now it's too bad.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
We've got to rely on Brandon, you can.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
That's the one that's been the gift that's kept on
given though, right.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I mean, yeah, you guys have been in the talk.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You didn't even want to bring up Brandon. I you
come and just kind of when'd he get done? I
don't know when's contract get done.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Feels like that one's gonna gonna blease.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
You're gonna make a run for the border, way to.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Way to book end it. By the way, I did,
I did nice.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Nothing nothing screams Taco Bell like Van Halen doing the cover.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I'm just saying that I remember this song for a while.
It was a very catchy jingle. They let go of
that though they're not singing this anymore.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Want to say that, Well, you guys have seen me.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Why would we say?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I don't understand why it could be like like, I've
got intimate knowledge of how this stuff gets done.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I don't know why would you know?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I haven't eaten a taco Bell?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
And that borders taking quite a different It's taken quite
a different storyline to getting what do you mean, bar
there's going to be a wall at that border?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Jonice? What's happened at the border? Jon Us? Oh, no.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Bad tacos. I tell you that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
By the way, I did send you guys the screenshot
of the identical tweet from Notice after and Diana Rossini.
So just confirmation on the fact that we're all on
the same group thread that man, So so there is that.
So if you wanted to know whether or not people
were giving information and just uh, the copy and paste
was working and effective.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
There's your proof. Yesterday with the cd LAMB signing.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Hey, Jerry Jones said nobody's better at being a GM
of the Cowboys and him, so he didn't call his
shot yesterday.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I did say that and didn't say it's not done
winning yet too something like that. He did say that too.
How did he say it, LeVar, I ain't done winning yet?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
How about them cowboys?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Was that good? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
It's interesting? How like that can also be Brian Kelly.
At the same time, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
My family ain't done winning yet.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Me and my family, I.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Tell y'all down here, y'all know how feeling we ain't
down winning yet.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That was that was Jerry Jones was more like, I
ain't I ain't done winning yet. You know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Well, let's see, I.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Did not know that cowboys were organized crime.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Man.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I didn't know it. I just I just found that out.
It was the wildest thing. I thought cowboys were heroes,
they were outlaws. Yeah, what do you mean family, I
didn't know that East Coast guy man. Maybe I'm maybe
I'm ignorant, but I always thought that cowboys were the
good guys.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I don't know. It was like a misconception growing up. Man.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, but I mean, weren't there wasn't.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
The lone ranger.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Wasn't he like a cowboy?
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Or was he just the lone ranger? Maybe I just
assumed Jos a cowboy.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I just think that, you know, if you've watched any
of those movies, you've seen that there's clearly good cowboys
and bad cowboys, much like there is anywhere in life
good and bad. So and by the way, for every
uh wider, there's a Johnny Ringo.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
You know, so there is some cowboy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I think he was a law man. I mean, whatever he.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Wrote, it's a misconception.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well okay, he rode on a horse, that's all I know.
And if you ride on a horse, that qualify.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
See. I just think that there's too many gray areas there.
But I digress. Jerry Jones got it done. Shouts out
to Jerry Jones. You got CD back. Now your team
is at least formidable to compete with Philly. Oh, I
think we uhh, who's the favorite now that CD's back?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Is it still Philly? Yeah? Okay, it's cute.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Although did you see man, I was trying to find
like one of the aggregate sites on X posted some
and like attributed it to the New York Times, but
I can't find the link or the article anywhere for it.
That apparently, according to the New York Times that the
concern with Jalen Hurts is that he has trouble when
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teams blitz and he has and they're like breaking down
like all his deficiencies as a quarterback. Yet there's no
actual proof that the article was ever written. It was
just kind of thrown out there, kind of like shazam. Yeah,
like there's no like they just attribute it to the
New York Times, but I can't find it anywhere in
the New York Time.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I do remember people talking about that last season, but
I feel like that had more to do with the system.
And I'll be honest with you, there's certain offensive systems
where you have a much better plan for what to
do versus pressure week in and week out. There's then
there's really three ways of dressing it. You can throw
hot right or throw a side adjust it depending on
(18:23):
if it's a secondary player. You can block it up,
or you can audible and change the play. I guess
the fourth option would be you just would run it.
You might have something built into it. That works too.
But the you know, the fourth option or you know,
and some of the others is you can block it up,
you can change the play to something else. I mean,
those are all potential opportunities within whatever system you're running.
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Sometimes coordinators they you know, they kind of lock into
how they want things to go, Like I'll never forget
in twenty thirteen be Able the Seahawks, they ran a
West Coast system with Darryl Bevel. There were times where
they didn't want you to do any thing. They had
a build in quick throw. It wasn't even a hot route.
It wasn't like he was breaking off throughout. They were like,
(19:05):
that's your quick throw if there's you know, pressure, And
I remember being like, man, this is so different from
any system I've been in, which for the most part
at that point were some New England Patriots system where
you had a toolbox of different things you could do,
and so you know, you could audible, you could change
the protection, you could change the route, you could you know.
(19:26):
I mean basically they wanted you to do anything if
you saw the pressure, but keep the playout. So, I mean,
it all depends on the system you've run and that
was one of the things that I don't know if
it was a Jalen Hurts problem, because to be honest
with you, there's been other time soughout the course of
his career that I haven't seen that be an issue,
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And even before last year, I don't feel like that
was an issue. So I feel like that was more
of a byproduct of the system that they were running.
They didn't have great answers for the pressure looks they
were getting. That will change dramatic this year with Kellen Moore.
Coin plays and.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
He was injured his lower his like it wasn't his
ankle or something injured this this.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Past season, I think so or something.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I mean, I think a lot of what he dealt with,
you know, at some point was his mobility was was compromised.
I think if he stays healthy and he has that
element of his game, I feel like he was much
more effective before he started dealing with that injury. I
felt like that kind of took his game down, you
(20:33):
know a little bit, because he just didn't have the
type of mobility that he usually had, you know, that
escapability when the pocket did break down. I mean, he's
one of those guys he can extend to play and
be able to deliver the ball late or or get
get you yardage with his feet, you know. And it
didn't seem like they had that once his health had
(20:55):
had kind of gotten away from him. I guess there
weren't they like reports saying that he might have been
more injured than than what people may have even yeah
real last Yeah, so I wasn't sure, but I thought
that's what was out there.
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Well, I'm sure this. We are going to be on
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Speaker 3 (21:12):
Are you sure about that?
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That's a great tease. I mean, it's such a good tease.
No one knows what the hell you're talking about?
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What dang.
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LeVar, what's going on with Sean Clifford and the situation
in Green Bay? So apparently the backup quarterback situation was
such that the Packers went out and made a deal
for Malik Willis of the Tennessee Titans. I saw that
he gone, he's in Green Bay now and he will
be the backup. So is this an indication that there
was some major concern if Jordan Love goes down that
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you know, we don't really have a solution behind him?
Or is this the are they projecting this as well
development and we just go from there because.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Are they keeping Shawn Clifford? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
They kept them on? Yeah, I mean, I mean three quarterbacks.
It's some some teams keep three quarterbacks and the third
quarterback is I mean, I would almost say that's that
position is a swing position.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
By the way, just a quick update.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Overnight, it was reported that the Packers are expected to
wave Sean Clifford.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Okay, there you go, so that makes more sense. It
might come later on today. Well, there you go.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
It kind of feels like you're setting far up for
this though, No, I was just what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Tell you if they carried three quarterbacks, that generally speaking,
the second the backup position is is kind of you know,
it's defined as you go sometimes. I mean sometimes it's
already defined, but it is kind of a set up question.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
But what it's all right, I mean, if apparently.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
If they trade it for Malik Willis and they brought
him in at this late juncture, that I mean they
brought him in not to let him go, which means
that there's generally two quarterbacks that are on the active roster.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Sometimes there's three.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
But I mean, obviously they see the opportunity of putting
a guy like Malik Willis in their offense and having
success with it. I mean, I would think that that
is the simple math of it, right, Yeah, I mean
I am off on.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
That they drafted Michael Pratt too, so there's the Michael
prit combination.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
This year of being draft pick.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
There's now the trade for Malik Willis, who, by the way,
deserve's a lot of credit. He's improved a lot since
his rookie season, I mean so much so that he's
desired by another team to come in and backup Jordan Love.
So there's something to be said for that with Malik Willison,
just his growth, his determination and all of that. After
you know, them drafting will Levis after him and essentially
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the running being on the wall, it's been good to
see him continually work on his craft. So that's a
good part of it for Clifford. You know, maybe there's
a chance he makes it back in the practice squad.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Maybe not.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
We don't know how many active quarterbacks the Packers are
going to keep, but my suspicion would leave me to
think it would be Love Willis, potentially Michael Pratt. If
they're going to keep a third quarterback just because the
draft pick, either on the active roster on the practice squad,
that's probably how it will work out.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
By the way, can you clear this up for me,
because the messaging that I have seen is that the
NFLPA vetoed the emergency third quarterback.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Rule is that not the case.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
That's not the case o case. Why is that what
you were going to talk about this morning?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Well, no, I just wanted to clear that up because
that's what I saw. Like if you go to any
report that they're using the word veto when it comes
to and not our veto and not our veto putting.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, what a vita. But so the rule wasn't vetoed.
This is like, well, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Did you actually click on the article?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yes, of course, No, why do you do that?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Of course I.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Clicked on the article because if you read the article,
you'd understand what they were vetoing. There was a rule
last year they brought back, which is the emergency third
quarterback rule, which means you can you can dress an
additional player that doesn't count against the active game day roster.
So for example, you know, forty six players can can
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dress and that player has to be activated. So you
know you'd have three quarterbacks all dressed in their uniform,
but one of them is not going to be activated
until there's an injury where the first string quarterback can't
go back in the game. And this came to light
because of the twenty twenty two. I believe NFC Championship
(27:35):
game Niners where Brock Purdy got hurt, was it Josh
Johnson who came in went hurt and then he went
out with in the percussion had to go back in. Yeah,
so that really which, by the way, this is a
rule that I honestly don't know why it ever went away.
I think I think you know, And personally, I feel
(27:55):
like part of the reason is because owners are cheap,
and it's just the truth, and they're looking at trying
to save money where they can save money. And so
here's what the money adds up to. If you look
at the minimum salary, which is almost eight hundred thousand
dollars to be on the active roster, So if you're
the third string quarterback, you could potentially be making a
(28:18):
minimum of seven hundred and ninety five thousand dollars as
opposed to the practice squad, which in total you'd be
making about three hundred and ninety three thousand dollars if
you're paid the max of what they usually pay for
the practice squad. Now, I don't want to get into
too many semantics, because you could potentially pay a guy
(28:41):
the league minimum while being on the practice squad. So
that's a whole nother story. But the point is is
what the NFLPA vetoed was a change the NFL owners
were trying to make to this rule. The NFL owners
were trying to allow a practice squad quarterback to be
brought up as much as possible throughout the season, so
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you could bring him up as many times as you
want to be your third quarterback. Now, the old rules
stipulated that you can only bring him up three times
and then you had to make a decision he needed
to be on the active roster or you're cutting him.
And so the NFLPA vetoed this change the owners were
going for. It was introduced by the Buffalo Bills because
(29:25):
they didn't want basically those guys to be cheated out
of the difference of center at seven hundred and ninety
five thousand dollars at three hundred and ninety three thousand dollars,
that difference is approximately what the owners would be saving
by implementing a rule like this, So they could go
back to only keeping two quarterbacks on the active roster
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and then one on the practice squad and bring it
up at their leisure, you know, bring him back and
forth to the active roster. That's in essence what this
was about. So again, it's more about the owners being
cheap and trying to save about half a mill I'll
set a ton and that's what That's why the NFLPA
vetoed it, because they're like, no, no, no, no, no, you can't
(30:06):
do this to these guys. Make a decision either put
them on the active roster and pay them accordingly, or
put them on the practice squad.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
And you got three shots to bring them up and
back down.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
If you want the nickel and dime approach when they
pick and choose to take it. When they're getting the
amount of money they're getting from TV contracts revenue, the
fifteen dollars are charging for beer at games, Like like, dude,
you can't shell out a half a mil extra to
make sure that that these guys are getting paid accordingly.
(30:38):
Like you can't, Like there's like that, you can't find
that line around somewhere, like.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Like Mark Mark Davis is the quote unquote most broke
NFL owner and he's still a multi multi, multi multi millionaire,
one hundred millionaire, whatever you want to call it. It's
like they don't have an extra five hundred grand line
around in case of emergency.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
You have to understand, though, when you make money, you
look for more ways of continuing to make money, and
oftentimes those small margins add up over the course of
every little thing. So let's just take this one example
of half a million. There might be half a million there,
there might be half a million in concessions somewhere. They're
trying to make it half a million somewhere else, and
(31:21):
ticket sales and all that. I mean, there's different ways
of cutting costs and trying to build on different things
to bring in another half a million, another half a million,
another half a million. All of a sudden you're looking
at it's like, oh, it's actually adding up to about
three or four million, So we can look at it
on the outside sad they're being cheap, which I am
in this case because because honestly, like the whole idea
(31:44):
why the bill's introduced it this is by the way,
their quote by saying they don't want to see a
non botified quarterback get into the game to keep the
integrity of the game. And what's hilarious about that is like, well,
then why wouldn't you want to have a rule where
you actually have to make a decision to put this
guy on the active roster, so he is getting practice time,
(32:04):
he is prepared Like that doesn't make any sense. This
helps you get a better shot at getting a guy
on the active roster he's got game experience, or you're
willing to pay to make sure he's around there to
practice and be prepared for that.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Moment that he does have to go and as the
third quarterback. It's just anyway, but you can understand the point.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
They're trying to save wherever they can because regardless of
what we think on the outside, it's an expensive operation
and won an NFL franchise.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
That's what I was thinking. But you summed it up
right there for me.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, I mean they are being cheap in that that moment,
but there's a lot of times where they're not. Well,
there's few times where they're not being cheap. It's a
high operating costs man running franchise.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, people people aren't.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
You'd be surprised what the profit margins, which I don't.
I don't think anybody ever knows what exactly is the
profit margins for the owners and what it is. But
I mean most times I've always heard I don't know
how much this is, how true it is, but I've
always heard people that are owners of franchises, they're not,
(33:14):
you know, they're not making their money off of being,
you know, owners of a franchise. They generally make their
money off of other things.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Like they do.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
They they built their you know, built their their or
their their wealth off of.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Doing something else. So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I mean, if that's the price of doing business, it's
the price of doing business, is how I look at it.
I could be inaccurate, but I don't think I am.
Want you get a little bit on what you get
accurate and look at your text message.
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This song sucks. I can tell you love it. You
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Speaker 3 (34:35):
Brutal alright, this is a cowboys song.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, apparently were have all the cowboys.
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Go oh wow? Damn they went away from her singing.
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Speaker 8 (35:36):
Good mor than everybody, Good Mordon Brady, Good morning, Lvar,
Good morning Jonas.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
In case you missed this, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Was on The Pat Mac Show, starting starring AJ Hawk
Hey LeVar was a Hey Ready was asked about his
thoughts on the kickoffs so far through the preseason.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Take a listen. It's pretty hard to get used to.
I'll say that.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
My thing would be just move the ball back. I mean,
this is like golf. You know, the four hundred yard
par fours are no longer four hundred r part fours
at five hundred yard part four. So if they can
hit it further, just move the ball back and kick
off in the twenty year twenty five or put it
wherever you want to put it. But if you want
kickoff returns, then just move the ball back. I think
we saw more returns in preseason percentage wise than what
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we're going to see in the regular season. And again,
remember a preseason. I mean, first of all, the games
are the games. And second of all, a lot of
guys that are back there are just guys that you know,
teams WI want to evaluate, so it's it's a little different.
Then you start talking about kicking off to you know,
Turpin and you know du Vernet and guys like that.
I mean, I'd kick it out of the end zone.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I mean, lebar, you've been saying that, just move the
ball back.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
I've been saying it for quite some time. I just
moved the ball.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
You and you and me and you, me, you and Belichick.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
We've been saying this league for a really long time now, right,
I mean, just move it back, Glad.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
We've been on top of this.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
You know what I mean. East, the Shenanigans. You want
to partake all.
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Not even going to partake, not even to entertain the Shenanigans.
We having technical difference.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
You guys can grab a spoon. That's all I listened.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Belichick's on the same page with LeVar.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I don't know what to tell you, man. I get
zero credit on the show.
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Come on, bar, I will not partake.
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Why not, guys, I don't want to.
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I'm a guned.
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a Tuesday morning, a little earlier than we started yesterday?
Not great, Jonas, I mean you tryed to say you're
(02:10):
gonna change up your song I did send it over,
got confirmation, not changing the system.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I don't have to tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And it is a It is a banger as well, too,
a little festive for you close out the summer here
as we get ready for football season. So that's where
we stand. Have you guys sent over your new song
request or I have not yet?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh no, I'm so sorry. Come on, var, I'm so sorry.
Let's go. I'm so sorry. No, it's okay.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I am negligent, all right, So I'm insufficient in that.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Category so far.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, it's all right, all right, no problem.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Now, also with you, I just thought that song that
played was Jonas's new song, just a different variation of it.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well, no, there's there's a crowd.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
That's a really good and I mean, I'll be honest, like,
I literally thought it was a new song, just a
different variation.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
There's like a crowd went back to the well. Well, no, like,
have you guys noticed that?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You know?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
That's funny they all sound to say the song sounds.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I mean, I didn't say that.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
That's you people, man Lee told me before the break,
asked what's playing? He said, it sounds like that when
you're driving through Taco Bell. Oh no, those are not
my words. Those I mean that comes from Lee to Ladd.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I hope, uh, you know, hope. But none of the
in laws are listening. Why not?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I can't imagine why. Well, listen, there's a reason why
Lorraino plays.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Remember when Taco.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Bell you just had the slogan make a run for
the border. Yeah, that's just sad. That was a thing
they actually had. That slogan was a slogan.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It was.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It was a slogan like the late eighties nineties.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, no, it definitely was, and it did bail right
for the border.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, there you go. Man oh man, listen, man.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Jonas would hear that bell and something else would happen.
He couldn't stand up. He was so excited.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah it was my wedding.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Oh oh no, sorry was what it was.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So that being said, we now transition smoothly over to
this where the deal is done for Brendan ayuk No,
definitely not him, that would that would be too easy
here but ceedee lamb. We were on the air yesterday
filling in for Colin Coward on the Herd when the
announcement was made four years one hundred and thirty six
(04:51):
million dollars that.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Never happens to us no ever.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Thanks College, Thanks for letting us have your time slide
so that we could get the breaking.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Hey, by the way, I don't know if she was
being a smart ass, but we were talking about the
Schefter tweet where it seemed like he Brady made the
pointy copy and pasted whatever the press release was that
he got via email or however you got notified of
the deal getting done. And I don't know if she
was being a smart ass, because it seems like a
smart ass move that she would make. Diana Rassini literally
(05:21):
posted the exact same thing that Adam Schefter had sent,
So I don't know if that's just, you know, people
trying to needle each.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Other as her yes, her release. Yes, Oh, I don't
know if that was I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
To tell you guys.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
They have relationships with these agents, and these agents want
them to speak verbatim with their It's almost like a
press release that's an essence. It's an unofficial press release
that they're making, and it's it's why I looked at
the contract. I'm like, why do they do this? They
know it's not the highest they know it. It's not
(05:55):
so why would they do this? Who's the agent?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
By the way, it doesn't matter. All agents do it,
and by the way, all insiders do it. I mean
they all basically say, I'm not going to call people out,
but they all do.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Some variation of this.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
There's only a few that I know that I think
personally say I'm not gonna say exactly that, but I'll
basically give the gist of what they want me to say.
But for a lot of the insiders, it's a copy
and paste.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Man.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
We've seen multiple people get caught before literally copying and pasting.
And you'll see sometimes too, and I don't want this
to come off the wrong way, but you'll see some
insiders that have like a really really deep perspective on
like a guy who's you know, getting traded for a
conditional seventh and it's going to be maybe like a
(06:50):
third string something, you know, Like they'll they'll announce that
it's like, Okay, this came straight from the agent.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
That's usually how it works.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Okay, So if the whoever the reporter is pushing back
and says, no, listen, I'm not playing that game with you.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
They're just asked out.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I'm not playing that game.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
They're cut off, then that agent doesn't give them scoops anymore.
So that's unfortunately, what's like a potentially at risk for
some of those people who will build their reputation off
being an insider.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It's a weird, weird deal. And well, at least Pete
Prisco is going to join us an hour three. He
can clear up some of this nonsense.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Oh, I trust me, and he won't pull punch this,
so he will go all in.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So that being said, now that the deal is done
and we've had a little bit more time.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Tory Dandy, do we know who he is? Who Tory Dandy?
I believe is the agent Tory Dandy.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, I'm not familiar.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
We don't know who he is.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I'm more of a David Mulligata guy myself. But again,
everybody's got a favorite in every line.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Of Dandy's negotiated more than a billion in active contracts
honest clients.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah. Interesting, that's according to his ex account.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So that being said, now that the deal is done,
we wait to see whether or not Dak Prescott's deal
gets done.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We wait to.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
See whether the other deals get done. Any further thoughts
on this contract now that we've had a little bit
more time to think about it, because I'll be honest
with you, I don't have any So if I don't.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Know you, I mean the devil's in the details.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
I haven't seen any specifics outside of the sidding bonus,
which is significant for a wide receiver. So that's great.
Total value seems about right there where it should be.
So look for whatever however long it took us to
get here, Ceedee Lamb got an awesome extension. He's gotten
rewarded for what he's done. Credit to him and his agent,
(08:48):
Dandy Uh forgetting it done. And I'm just saying that
they should they should be happy about this.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Is this headline rescue Jim Danny to remember that show
that song from Overboard in nineteen sixty Yeah, the movie
from Overboard.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I'm telling you that was a song inside the movie.
Maybe that's who he is.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Could Lee has that doubt up somewhere, but I know
I don't remember that, and nor do I really understand
where we're going on.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I think it's Tory Dandy's his agent, but I digress.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
It's it's a competitive contract for Justin Jefferson, right like that,
if that's what you're trying to accomplish, he accomplished that.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I don't know that Brandon a Yuke. I don't think
he's gonna surpass this.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Contract, and Jamar Chase is probably the only one that will.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But I think it's gonna be a year from now.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
But you are, uh, you know, I'm curious about Jamar
Chase if if it takes place a year from now,
like I said, I think it damages. I think it
damages the relationship. I think it does. Are there hord
feelings after? I don't know? And and then the next
question is I will throw this at you, Q, is
(09:58):
the is the contract than Justin Jefferson's.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
If it's going to be a year from this, I
can definitively tell you we'll be higher it.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Look.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Look, the reason is is he still has two years
left on his deal. So you know, Jonas kind of
talked about the money that he's going to be making
this year. He's only making a base salary about a million,
and he got paid on you know, signing the signing
bonus that got pro rated over the course of his contract.
So he's already got that, so he's not making a
ton from a salary standpoint.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
He's got a nice roster bonus.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
I mean, he's in cash as far as paid out,
it's roughly about ten million. But next year is the
year where jumps up to almost twenty two because his
fifty year option. But but the point is is you
have Higgins under the franchise tag. You got Burrow under
his second contract. You know, if you're the Bengals, it's
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as much as you'd like to probably do the deal now,
I just don't think they're going to have the cash
to give him the signing bonus that he wants to
be able to make this work. Because with two years
left on his deal, you could sign them to a
three or four year extension and you can really sign,
you know, spread out that signing bonus to help reduce
the cap hit. The problem is is, I don't know
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that the Bengals have the cash, and I don't know
that they can time it out that way with the
cap space they've got at this point in time of
the year.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Is there a possibility, I mean maybe it's probably not
conceivable with who they've cut, but roster wise, cutting down,
the cutting down the roster to the fifty three man roster.
Is that I think it's fifty three still? Is it
still Fife? Still fifty three?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Does that create space to now do a deal if
you're saying fran or if you're you know, if you're Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Not really And for this reason, you know, the Bengals
right now have about eighteen point one million of cap space,
and spow track does a great job.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
If people are listening want to go and like check
the stuff out.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
They make it available for people to look as well,
so you can kind of track it. You do eventually
have to like log in and buy a subscription if
you want more.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
However, you could look this stuff up.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
They do it for the top fifty one contracts on
the roster, so for the most part, there's not a
lot of change you can make at this point. I mean, really,
the guy who's going to much like mahomes in Kansas City,
the guy who's going to be your mortgage company is
Joe Burrow or you know, you're gonna be able to
convert some of his money's into you know, guarantees and
different bonuses to help create cap space.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
But they've got eighteen point.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
One million, and that's literally middle of the pack right
now in the NFL, and so there's not a ton
more space they can probably create unless they do a
bunch of conversions of some of these contracts that they've
got on hand, which it's tough to do. For example,
you'd have to extend Higgins. Higgins is one of them
that's a twenty some million dollar cap hit this year,
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and you could probably reduce with an extension. But I
don't think they're going to extend them. I think Chase
is the one they want to extend. They know they
can only extend one to them, like they want to
be paid to surpass Justin Jefferson for the long run.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Listen, it was a fun story while I lasted. You know,
now it's too bad.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
We've got to rely on Brandon, you can.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
That's the one that's been the gift that's kept on
given though, right.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I mean, yeah, you guys have been in the talk.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You didn't even want to bring up Brandon. I you
come and just kind of when'd he get done? I
don't know when's contract get done.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Feels like that one's gonna gonna blease.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
You're gonna make a run for the border, way to.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Way to book end it. By the way, I did,
I did nice.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Nothing nothing screams Taco Bell like Van Halen doing the cover.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I'm just saying that I remember this song for a while.
It was a very catchy jingle. They let go of
that though they're not singing this anymore.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Want to say that, Well, you guys have seen me.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Why would we say?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I don't understand why it could be like like, I've
got intimate knowledge of how this stuff gets done.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I don't know why would you know?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I haven't eaten a taco Bell?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
And that borders taking quite a different It's taken quite
a different storyline to getting what do you mean, bar
there's going to be a wall at that border?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Jonice? What's happened at the border? Jon Us? Oh, no.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Bad tacos. I tell you that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
By the way, I did send you guys the screenshot
of the identical tweet from Notice after and Diana Rossini.
So just confirmation on the fact that we're all on
the same group thread that man, So so there is that.
So if you wanted to know whether or not people
were giving information and just uh, the copy and paste
was working and effective.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
There's your proof. Yesterday with the cd LAMB signing.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Hey, Jerry Jones said nobody's better at being a GM
of the Cowboys and him, so he didn't call his
shot yesterday.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I did say that and didn't say it's not done
winning yet too something like that. He did say that too.
How did he say it, LeVar, I ain't done winning yet?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
How about them cowboys?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Was that good? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
It's interesting? How like that can also be Brian Kelly.
At the same time, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
My family ain't done winning yet.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Me and my family, I.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Tell y'all down here, y'all know how feeling we ain't
down winning yet.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
That was that was Jerry Jones was more like, I
ain't I ain't done winning yet. You know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Well, let's see, I.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Did not know that cowboys were organized crime.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Man.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I didn't know it. I just I just found that out.
It was the wildest thing. I thought cowboys were heroes,
they were outlaws. Yeah, what do you mean family, I
didn't know that East Coast guy man. Maybe I'm maybe
I'm ignorant, but I always thought that cowboys were the
good guys.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I don't know. It was like a misconception growing up. Man.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, but I mean, weren't there wasn't.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
The lone ranger.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Wasn't he like a cowboy?
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Or was he just the lone ranger? Maybe I just
assumed Jos a cowboy.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I just think that, you know, if you've watched any
of those movies, you've seen that there's clearly good cowboys
and bad cowboys, much like there is anywhere in life
good and bad. So and by the way, for every
uh wider, there's a Johnny Ringo.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
You know, so there is some cowboy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I think he was a law man. I mean, whatever he.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Wrote, it's a misconception.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well okay, he rode on a horse, that's all I know.
And if you ride on a horse, that qualify.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
See. I just think that there's too many gray areas there.
But I digress. Jerry Jones got it done. Shouts out
to Jerry Jones. You got CD back. Now your team
is at least formidable to compete with Philly. Oh, I
think we uhh, who's the favorite now that CD's back?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Is it still Philly? Yeah? Okay, it's cute.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Although did you see man, I was trying to find
like one of the aggregate sites on X posted some
and like attributed it to the New York Times, but
I can't find the link or the article anywhere for it.
That apparently, according to the New York Times that the
concern with Jalen Hurts is that he has trouble when
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teams blitz and he has and they're like breaking down
like all his deficiencies as a quarterback. Yet there's no
actual proof that the article was ever written. It was
just kind of thrown out there, kind of like shazam. Yeah,
like there's no like they just attribute it to the
New York Times, but I can't find it anywhere in
the New York Time.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I do remember people talking about that last season, but
I feel like that had more to do with the system.
And I'll be honest with you, there's certain offensive systems
where you have a much better plan for what to
do versus pressure week in and week out. There's then
there's really three ways of dressing it. You can throw
hot right or throw a side adjust it depending on
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if it's a secondary player. You can block it up,
or you can audible and change the play. I guess
the fourth option would be you just would run it.
You might have something built into it. That works too.
But the you know, the fourth option or you know,
and some of the others is you can block it up,
you can change the play to something else. I mean,
those are all potential opportunities within whatever system you're running.
(18:44):
Sometimes coordinators they you know, they kind of lock into
how they want things to go, Like I'll never forget
in twenty thirteen be Able the Seahawks, they ran a
West Coast system with Darryl Bevel. There were times where
they didn't want you to do any thing. They had
a build in quick throw. It wasn't even a hot route.
It wasn't like he was breaking off throughout. They were like,
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that's your quick throw if there's you know, pressure, And
I remember being like, man, this is so different from
any system I've been in, which for the most part
at that point were some New England Patriots system where
you had a toolbox of different things you could do,
and so you know, you could audible, you could change
the protection, you could change the route, you could you know.
(19:26):
I mean basically they wanted you to do anything if
you saw the pressure, but keep the playout. So, I mean,
it all depends on the system you've run and that
was one of the things that I don't know if
it was a Jalen Hurts problem, because to be honest
with you, there's been other time soughout the course of
his career that I haven't seen that be an issue,
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And even before last year, I don't feel like that
was an issue. So I feel like that was more
of a byproduct of the system that they were running.
They didn't have great answers for the pressure looks they
were getting. That will change dramatic this year with Kellen Moore.
Coin plays and.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
He was injured his lower his like it wasn't his
ankle or something injured this this.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Past season, I think so or something.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
I mean, I think a lot of what he dealt with,
you know, at some point was his mobility was was compromised.
I think if he stays healthy and he has that
element of his game, I feel like he was much
more effective before he started dealing with that injury. I
felt like that kind of took his game down, you
(20:33):
know a little bit, because he just didn't have the
type of mobility that he usually had, you know, that
escapability when the pocket did break down. I mean, he's
one of those guys he can extend to play and
be able to deliver the ball late or or get
get you yardage with his feet, you know. And it
didn't seem like they had that once his health had
(20:55):
had kind of gotten away from him. I guess there
weren't they like reports saying that he might have been
more injured than than what people may have even yeah
real last Yeah, so I wasn't sure, but I thought
that's what was out there.
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Speaker 3 (21:12):
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Speaker 5 (23:06):
That's a great tease. I mean, it's such a good tease.
No one knows what the hell you're talking about?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
What dang.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
LeVar, what's going on with Sean Clifford and the situation
in Green Bay? So apparently the backup quarterback situation was
such that the Packers went out and made a deal
for Malik Willis of the Tennessee Titans. I saw that
he gone, he's in Green Bay now and he will
be the backup. So is this an indication that there
was some major concern if Jordan Love goes down that
(23:37):
you know, we don't really have a solution behind him?
Or is this the are they projecting this as well
development and we just go from there because.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Are they keeping Shawn Clifford? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
They kept them on? Yeah, I mean, I mean three quarterbacks.
It's some some teams keep three quarterbacks and the third
quarterback is I mean, I would almost say that's that
position is a swing position.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
By the way, just a quick update.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Overnight, it was reported that the Packers are expected to
wave Sean Clifford.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Okay, there you go, so that makes more sense. It
might come later on today. Well, there you go.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
It kind of feels like you're setting far up for
this though, No, I was just what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Tell you if they carried three quarterbacks, that generally speaking,
the second the backup position is is kind of you know,
it's defined as you go sometimes. I mean sometimes it's
already defined, but it is kind of a set up question.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
But what it's all right, I mean, if apparently.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
If they trade it for Malik Willis and they brought
him in at this late juncture, that I mean they
brought him in not to let him go, which means
that there's generally two quarterbacks that are on the active roster.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Sometimes there's three.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
But I mean, obviously they see the opportunity of putting
a guy like Malik Willis in their offense and having
success with it. I mean, I would think that that
is the simple math of it, right, Yeah, I mean
I am off on.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
That they drafted Michael Pratt too, so there's the Michael
prit combination.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
This year of being draft pick.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
There's now the trade for Malik Willis, who, by the way,
deserve's a lot of credit. He's improved a lot since
his rookie season, I mean so much so that he's
desired by another team to come in and backup Jordan Love.
So there's something to be said for that with Malik Willison,
just his growth, his determination and all of that. After
you know, them drafting will Levis after him and essentially
(25:44):
the running being on the wall, it's been good to
see him continually work on his craft. So that's a
good part of it for Clifford. You know, maybe there's
a chance he makes it back in the practice squad.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Maybe not.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
We don't know how many active quarterbacks the Packers are
going to keep, but my suspicion would leave me to
think it would be Love Willis, potentially Michael Pratt. If
they're going to keep a third quarterback just because the
draft pick, either on the active roster on the practice squad,
that's probably how it will work out.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
By the way, can you clear this up for me,
because the messaging that I have seen is that the
NFLPA vetoed the emergency third quarterback.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Rule is that not the case.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
That's not the case o case. Why is that what
you were going to talk about this morning?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Well, no, I just wanted to clear that up because
that's what I saw. Like if you go to any
report that they're using the word veto when it comes
to and not our veto and not our veto putting.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, what a vita. But so the rule wasn't vetoed.
This is like, well, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Did you actually click on the article?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yes, of course, No, why do you do that?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Of course I.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Clicked on the article because if you read the article,
you'd understand what they were vetoing. There was a rule
last year they brought back, which is the emergency third
quarterback rule, which means you can you can dress an
additional player that doesn't count against the active game day roster.
So for example, you know, forty six players can can
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dress and that player has to be activated. So you
know you'd have three quarterbacks all dressed in their uniform,
but one of them is not going to be activated
until there's an injury where the first string quarterback can't
go back in the game. And this came to light
because of the twenty twenty two. I believe NFC Championship
(27:35):
game Niners where Brock Purdy got hurt, was it Josh
Johnson who came in went hurt and then he went
out with in the percussion had to go back in. Yeah,
so that really which, by the way, this is a
rule that I honestly don't know why it ever went away.
I think I think you know, And personally, I feel
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like part of the reason is because owners are cheap,
and it's just the truth, and they're looking at trying
to save money where they can save money. And so
here's what the money adds up to. If you look
at the minimum salary, which is almost eight hundred thousand
dollars to be on the active roster, So if you're
the third string quarterback, you could potentially be making a
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minimum of seven hundred and ninety five thousand dollars as
opposed to the practice squad, which in total you'd be
making about three hundred and ninety three thousand dollars if
you're paid the max of what they usually pay for
the practice squad. Now, I don't want to get into
too many semantics, because you could potentially pay a guy
(28:41):
the league minimum while being on the practice squad. So
that's a whole nother story. But the point is is
what the NFLPA vetoed was a change the NFL owners
were trying to make to this rule. The NFL owners
were trying to allow a practice squad quarterback to be
brought up as much as possible throughout the season, so
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you could bring him up as many times as you
want to be your third quarterback. Now, the old rules
stipulated that you can only bring him up three times
and then you had to make a decision he needed
to be on the active roster or you're cutting him.
And so the NFLPA vetoed this change the owners were
going for. It was introduced by the Buffalo Bills because
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they didn't want basically those guys to be cheated out
of the difference of center at seven hundred and ninety
five thousand dollars at three hundred and ninety three thousand dollars,
that difference is approximately what the owners would be saving
by implementing a rule like this, So they could go
back to only keeping two quarterbacks on the active roster
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and then one on the practice squad and bring it
up at their leisure, you know, bring him back and
forth to the active roster. That's in essence what this
was about. So again, it's more about the owners being
cheap and trying to save about half a mill I'll
set a ton and that's what That's why the NFLPA
vetoed it, because they're like, no, no, no, no, no, you can't
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do this to these guys. Make a decision either put
them on the active roster and pay them accordingly, or
put them on the practice squad.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
And you got three shots to bring them up and
back down.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
If you want the nickel and dime approach when they
pick and choose to take it. When they're getting the
amount of money they're getting from TV contracts revenue, the
fifteen dollars are charging for beer at games, Like like, dude,
you can't shell out a half a mil extra to
make sure that that these guys are getting paid accordingly.
(30:38):
Like you can't, Like there's like that, you can't find
that line around somewhere, like.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Like Mark Mark Davis is the quote unquote most broke
NFL owner and he's still a multi multi, multi multi millionaire,
one hundred millionaire, whatever you want to call it. It's
like they don't have an extra five hundred grand line
around in case of emergency.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
You have to understand, though, when you make money, you
look for more ways of continuing to make money, and
oftentimes those small margins add up over the course of
every little thing. So let's just take this one example
of half a million. There might be half a million there,
there might be half a million in concessions somewhere. They're
trying to make it half a million somewhere else, and
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ticket sales and all that. I mean, there's different ways
of cutting costs and trying to build on different things
to bring in another half a million, another half a million,
another half a million. All of a sudden you're looking
at it's like, oh, it's actually adding up to about
three or four million, So we can look at it
on the outside sad they're being cheap, which I am
in this case because because honestly, like the whole idea
(31:44):
why the bill's introduced it this is by the way,
their quote by saying they don't want to see a
non botified quarterback get into the game to keep the
integrity of the game. And what's hilarious about that is like, well,
then why wouldn't you want to have a rule where
you actually have to make a decision to put this
guy on the active roster, so he is getting practice time,
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he is prepared Like that doesn't make any sense. This
helps you get a better shot at getting a guy
on the active roster he's got game experience, or you're
willing to pay to make sure he's around there to
practice and be prepared for that.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Moment that he does have to go and as the
third quarterback. It's just anyway, but you can understand the point.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
They're trying to save wherever they can because regardless of
what we think on the outside, it's an expensive operation
and won an NFL franchise.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
That's what I was thinking. But you summed it up
right there for me.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, I mean they are being cheap in that that moment,
but there's a lot of times where they're not. Well,
there's few times where they're not being cheap. It's a
high operating costs man running franchise.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, people people aren't.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
You'd be surprised what the profit margins, which I don't.
I don't think anybody ever knows what exactly is the
profit margins for the owners and what it is. But
I mean most times I've always heard I don't know
how much this is, how true it is, but I've
always heard people that are owners of franchises, they're not,
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you know, they're not making their money off of being,
you know, owners of a franchise. They generally make their
money off of other things.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Like they do.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
They they built their you know, built their their or
their their wealth off of.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Doing something else. So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I mean, if that's the price of doing business, it's
the price of doing business, is how I look at it.
I could be inaccurate, but I don't think I am.
Want you get a little bit on what you get
accurate and look at your text message.
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Speaker 1 (34:19):
This song sucks. I can tell you love it. You
have the biggest smile on your face. So bad. What
is your ringtone?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Huh No, it's because we were talking about cowboys earlier,
and so she's just going through the catalog here, so.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Brutal alright, this is a cowboys song.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, apparently were have all the cowboys.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Go oh wow? Damn they went away from her singing.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
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Speaker 1 (35:15):
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Speaker 6 (35:23):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
For that, we turn it over to our executive producer,
Lead Lap.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
Good mor than everybody, Good Mordon Brady, Good morning, Lvar,
Good morning Jonas.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
In case you missed this, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Was on The Pat Mac Show, starting starring AJ Hawk
Hey LeVar was a Hey Ready was asked about his
thoughts on the kickoffs so far through the preseason.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Take a listen. It's pretty hard to get used to.
I'll say that.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
My thing would be just move the ball back. I mean,
this is like golf. You know, the four hundred yard
par fours are no longer four hundred r part fours
at five hundred yard part four. So if they can
hit it further, just move the ball back and kick
off in the twenty year twenty five or put it
wherever you want to put it. But if you want
kickoff returns, then just move the ball back. I think
we saw more returns in preseason percentage wise than what
(36:21):
we're going to see in the regular season. And again,
remember a preseason. I mean, first of all, the games
are the games. And second of all, a lot of
guys that are back there are just guys that you know,
teams WI want to evaluate, so it's it's a little different.
Then you start talking about kicking off to you know,
Turpin and you know du Vernet and guys like that.
I mean, I'd kick it out of the end zone.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I mean, lebar, you've been saying that, just move the
ball back.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
I've been saying it for quite some time. I just
moved the ball.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
You and you and me and you, me, you and Belichick.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
We've been saying this league for a really long time now, right,
I mean, just move it back, Glad.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
We've been on top of this.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
You know what I mean. East, the Shenanigans. You want
to partake all.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Not even going to partake, not even to entertain the Shenanigans.
We having technical difference.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
You guys can grab a spoon. That's all I listened.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Belichick's on the same page with LeVar.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I don't know what to tell you, man. I get
zero credit on the show.
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