December 5, 2024 • 40 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the College Football Playoff Rankings are problematic. Aaron Rodgers doubles down on wanting to stay in New York but Woody Johnson likely wants him gone. Plus, a special edition of Quinn’s Wins.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Thursday edition, we are going to see
exactly who's got a complain about the college football playoff rankings.
And we're going to see whether or not Aaron Rodgers
is complaining about being in New York or if he
wants to be there long term. We'll discuss. We're going
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to have a special edition of Quinn's Wins. We've also
got Lee's Leftovers, and we've got in case you missed it,
Albert Breer is gonna stop by a lot of coaching
rumors out there in the NFL and he needs to
vent a little bit about what happened to his Ohio
State buck guys last weekend in Columbus. We'll look ahead
to Thursday night football as well, and apparently somebody in
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the NFL just decided, yeah, I don't want to play,
not going in. We'll get into that and more coming
up next here. Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
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and you could walk up to a window right now
and lay some coin down, would you.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Bet yes or no?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Does LeVar cry next year the first time he sees
his son in a Penn State UNI wearing number eleven.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I think he does.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Oh, I mean, I think That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
You don't think so?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Think y'all both lose. I thought i'd cry when I
got drafted. I like was like ready to kill somebody,
like let's go put my pats on. I think I'll
be ready. I'll be ready for him to kill somebody
when you know, and I guess that's not politically correct
anymore to say it that way, but I'll be ready
for him to ball really hard when I see him
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in the uniform.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I don't know, Man, I think you're a pretty sentimental guy.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I am a sentimental guy. I am I am, But
that's how I feel today. I don't believe I will cry.
Maybe the only way I cry is if I look
to my left or look to my right. And to
be honest with you, you know Laila his twin sister.
A lot some people may not know he's a twin.
She is our first and only national champion. She's a
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three time national champion as a cheerleader, and she's going
to Penn State to chair. So I might cry when
I see her cheering. Before I cry where I see
my man and my son in a Penn State football
you just didn't generate any tears. Yeah, I don't know,
have to tell you. Yeah, that's more like we're going
like he's going to war in the in the name
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of the Arrington family and the Penn State family. So
and reason why we're having the conversation and the reason
why I asked you because obviously signing day was yesterday,
and you know he's so he signed his letter, you know,
so he's officially a Penn State in Ndney Line today.
So big day, man, Yeah, big day day, big day.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Big day for even involved.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
I mean, people should understand this is like one of
those decisions that changes the course the trajectory of a
lot of young people's lives.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And I know everyone's gonna say.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Oh, there's the trips for Pootl Now it doesn't really
mean as much like it still means a lot too.
I think the majority of the young men and women
who in this case we're talking college football, but where
they decide to go to school, it sets up the
rest of their life, oftentimes where they settle once they're done,
the network that they work through and work with. So
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it's a huge decision. You gotta feel good though. Man,
it's awesome. He's obviously signing and you got two you know,
to sign of the Penn State following your footsteps.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Pretty cool, man, Pretty cool, Pretty humbling, you know, just
just to have the journey be the way that it was.
I mean, you're going through it you're like in the
in the thick of it, you know, I'm I'm like
and through like, I'm I got one. I mean, I'm
hitting at Stanford tomorrow because they made it into the
volleyball tournament, the NCAA tournament. Uh. She's a freshman of
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the Year in the in the w c C and
she's she's amazing. And and so I'm to the point
now where seeing what what I believe my I mean,
I give all the credit to my wife. I'll take
maybe a little bit of it, but the parenting aspect
of what takes place with your your church, yeah, it's uh,
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that's a very real thing. Man. I've always said like,
and some people have debated me through the years, and
I'm okay with not being all the way correct, you know,
but I've always said success is taught, and success is learned,
and you're trained to be successful. I don't think you
become successful by accident. I don't think that it's it's
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by chance that you become successful. I think it's a process.
You learn the process and you continue to build on it.
And I'll say this, my kids are excellent in school,
way better than what I was. They're excellent contributors to
our communities. They understand what the true values of family are,
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and what the true values of hard work and dedication
and having a passion for what it is that you do,
and passion and love for your fellow person. I mean,
those are foundational components that me and me and trishare
were raised on and that was what we taught them.
And then you start to see it come out of
them once they get a little older. Cause man, man
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was the slowest of them all. They say, kid, the
boys they develop like slower than what the girls do.
It's in our case, it was one hundred percent correct.
Like I you know, for the longest time, I look
out man and just be like, oh my gosh, like
I don't know. I don't know about you, dude. And
I would tell him to his face like I don't
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know about you, my guy, I don't know. You know,
I just you just don't get it. I don't know.
You kind of hit me as like I can't get right,
like or you can't get right. And then overnight it
was like overnight, like he started handling things differently, started
making sure his room was cleaned. He started making sure
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he was clean, you know, it's just a whole bunch
of little things that you're like, why doesn't he do it?
You know what I mean? As a parent. And then
once they get to that point of where you start
to see him transition into actually doing things as a
respetponsible person and you don't have to stand over top
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of them like why do this? Do that? Do that?
Like you didn't do this. Your chore list is very
clear as to what you need to do, and then
you have to you know, you get to the point
where you don't have to threaten them no more, like
I had no practice today, you know, no working out today, like,
none of that. It's just been an amazing journey, man.
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And yesterday it was a lot of emotions. Man, it
was a lot of emotions seeing him sign, you know,
for for Penn State and just seeing how that all
turned out. I mean, just if you're a parent out
there and you're looking at your kid and they're getting
on your nerves or you don't feel like they hear you,
my advice to you would be, man, where I'm at now,
just keep telling them, just keep going, just keep supporting them,
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just keep putting those values, pouring your love and pouring
your belief into your kids, even when you get frustrated,
even when they they do things that kind of, you know,
you feel like they let you down or whatever it
may be. Just keep being a stab fast parent because
they will get it. They will get it, and you'll
start to see what it is that get it is
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in a person that you made, which is like the
wildest thing ever. So I'm pretty proud, man. I gotta
say I'm you know, I act like I'm a I'm
a fake bragger, is what I am. Like. I'm a
fake arrogant. I'm not really arrogant, and I'm not really
a bragger. I really don't want any attention. I really
don't like being in front of people. I really don't
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like a lot of things. I just want to be alone,
kind of sort of like in reality radio. Yeah, because
I don't have to see anybody. I can talk to you,
but I don't have to see you. I can end
it when I want to end it. Like it's kind
of a weird thing because I hate doing television. I've
done it, but I've never really been into it because
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I just I feel weird. It's a weird thing. I
gotta like you gotta see me. I don't want you
to see me, but anyway, regardless, I just this is
one of those moments where I actually am really kind
of proud, super proud, and super super confident about you
know what my kids represents those pretty cool man.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Listen, congratulations to you, and we will be waiting to
see those tiers not going.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't think I'm a cry, oh Jonas, I don't
think I'm a cry. I would, I would ball my
ass off. I don't think i'm a.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I don't know about bawling like that. I think I
think you get choked up.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm gonna get choked up. For certain I'll get choked up. So, Uh, Braden,
you are back.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
You are you are back, and we're going to find
out and get some clarity this weekend when it comes
to the college football playoff rankings.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Uh, what's the biggest bitch.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
For you when it comes to college football playoff rankings?
Because I was thinking about this, I would like to
reserve my right to complain after we get to see
the final twelve released and the brackets come out, because
I think it's too cool of a setup with the
home games and all of that that come along with
it to sit here and maybe cry and complain like
some people are conditioned to do when they're used to
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the four team?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Am I horrible for saying I hope? I mean, I
don't hope Penn State loses, but damn a home game
and the perceived bracket we would have to get to
the final be sweet.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Well, the problem is, I don't know if you lose
you can guarantee yourself in a home game spot. I
mean I think you'd you'd think that you would. But
that's the scary thing about that is like I don't
especially the way you.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Lose, well that will be true.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Yeah, I guess The general point is I don't have
a ton of gripes with the College Football Playoff Committee,
and I'll get to that in a second. It's more
of the scheduling in general. Like we're comparing the strength
of schedule for the Big Ten in the SEC and
the ACC and the Big twelve, and not every conference
plays nine conference games, So you kind of start there.
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For me, where you go, Okay, a nine and three
Bama team, Are they nine and three if they have
to play additional conference game?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Maybe they are, Maybe they're not maybe that only enhances
their strengthens their argument to be a part of the.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
College football playoff.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
So it's tough because, look, we get the chance to
go around the country and see different teams in person.
And there's two sides of this conversation. There's the well,
that's why you play the game, right, that argument. The
most recent game I was at, the game Ohio State
Michigan is a prime example of, well, this is why
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you play the game. Because even though Ohio State's a
twenty and a half point favorite, they get beat at
home and physically dominated by Michigan.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So that's why you play those games.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Now, that being said, when I see Michigan, when I
see you know, Ohio State, Penn State, these Big ten
teams compared to some of the Big twelve schools we
saw this year, is there a difference. Yeah, there's a
different There's differences in the trenches. Maybe the skilled position
players a little more even you know, maybe you say
the quarterbacks, all right, little a little more, even running backs,
et cetera. The difference is in the trenches. You see
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it on the offensive line, defensive line, each side. And
that's kind of hard to be able to judge in
a box score and sometimes when you're watching tape or
watching highlights. But that's that's where the championships are won
and lost. Look at the recent history, Look at Michigan,
look at Georgia, you know, look at some of the
teams that have been able to win. It's arguably because
of oftentimes what they do up front. So my gripes
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aren't against you know, the ACC for example, with the
athletic director for Miami and the ACC you know, Commissioner
Jim Phillips come out and they hammer the College Football
Playoff Committee because I think these people who are part
of the committee have a really hard job.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
When it was four teams.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Someone was going to moan about, you know, not being
number four, and it was probably five and.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Someone probably had a case.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Then now it's twelve and it's everyone's suposed to be
excited about it. Instead now we're ticked off that, you know, hey,
it's Miami who's sitting in the twelve spot right now.
But that means they're basically not a part of it.
And mostly because a lot of people out there have
been trying to say this the entire season, don't understand
the format of the actual playoff. So I don't have
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many gripes with the way the rankings are. I have
more questions, like Miami can't possibly move up. I just
it feels like it's impossible unless there's maybe a bunch
of upsets or something. But even then, Ward Manual has
talked about not dinging teams who lose in the conference
championship weekend, which is probably not the smartest thing to say,
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because if you go back through you know, the history
of the college football Playoff Grand and four teams, they
would talk about the fact that they're going to every
single week reevaluate these teams, and it almost seems like
they're allowing the story that's already been written on most
these teams to kind of dictate why they are where
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they are.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So I look at a team at Miami and I
say that stinks. Man.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Now, you could say, hey, just beat Syracuse and you're in.
Beat Georgia Tech, you're in, and that's that's fair and fine.
But there's you know, they got two losses, and they're
looking at teams, you know, like Alabama, and they look
at other teams that are trying to make a grive
and say, oh, we should be in instead of them.
I look at SMU, and that's the team I probably
look at and say the committee could be the most
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unfair too, because they're in a position now where if
they win, obviously they're in. But based on how it's
set up, if clemsone's the ACC, there'll be a three
loss conference champ and they will automatically go. And then
that leaves you at SMU with two losses, and how
far do you drop. We've seen some teams drop as
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much as eight or nine spots in one in one
week's rankings. We've seen some drop on average about five
or six, so that would drop SMU out. And I
think if you're a part of the you know crowd
that says they don't have any ranked wins, you're right
they don't. The ACC has not been as strong as
some of the other powerful conferences. But how are you
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going to tell that team that you know, it's only
lost two games the entire season? I guess three in
this case, that they shouldn't go ahead of a team
like BAMA who wasn't playing the conference championship.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
It has won as many games.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
It's just I can understand the difficulty of making these decisions,
but it feels like no matter how much we expand,
there's always going to be people ticked off.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, it's like college basketball goes from you know, thirty
two to sixty four. They add in the plan, they've
got the sixty eight teams that are qualifying, and then
people are.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
The bubble team still got snubbed, Like.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, and it is weird that SMU in a in
a weird way would almost be better off, Like like
it's they're risking almost everything by playing this weekend. It
feels like because yeah, if they lose that game, all
of a sudden, they're going to be asked out and
people are going to be looking at potentially Alabama getting
in over them, and then Alabama causes all the controversy
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and complaining is getting.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Worth play the games? And that would keep.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yes, But also this is like this came up.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
One of the guys from barstool actually said this back
when Ohio State was playing Indiana when it was a
thought that Indiana wouldn't be a part of the playoff.
And the comment was, if you forfeit, the NCAA registers.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
It as one to nothing.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
So if s MU just forfeited to Clemson, they would
lose one to nothing, which that in that event, yes
they'd have another loss.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
But lost.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Exactly of the wire.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
That's interesting, So you could try using that same logic
in this case. Should play State, y'all go ahead, take it.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
We gonna take this one. Had this flight to lay
couldn't get there?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It does? It does.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I was having this debate with a buddy a couple
of days ago. It does called a question though, in
all seriousness when you bring that up, Levart, if Penn
State plays this game, yeah, maybe they get a home
play home, you know, host a home playoff game.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Maybe they don't.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
And and also you risk potential injury of your players.
I mean, if you really look at the path, you'd
almost rather be a team that plays playing a conference
championship game and can host. Which I hate to admit this,
but that's exactly how it works for Notre Dame. By
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the way, I'm not just saying for this year. I'm
just saying that's always kind of the path they have
to go, and it's to me the smartest path, because of.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Course it is do well.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Of course, if conference championships have I mean, our conference
championships meaningful now you have to seriously ask that question,
because if it's all about winning the national championship, all
those conference championships.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I would I agree with you just and obviously because
we won the conference championship and didn't go to the
playoff at one point, so I would agree, like, what
does it matter to win the conference championship and you
took a team from the conference that didn't win the
conference championship and the team that did was left out. Now,
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granted that that was when it was four teams, but
nonetheless that was when I was like, Okay, conference championship, Like, great,
we're Big ten champs, Big ten champs that are sitting
home watching a team that didn't even play in the game.
They weren't even considered to be one of the representatives
of the two best teams to see who was the
best team in the conference. They weren't even in the game,
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and they're in the playoffs. It's just like so for me, yeah,
I mean I changed my opinion on conference championships once
once we realized that conference championships didn't guarantee that you
would get in especially Big Ten, Like a Big Ten
conference championship that's not guaranteeing you to get into the playoffs.
So that was when I felt the way that I
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felt about it. I know, you know, there were discussions
and debates you know that I actually thought made sense,
but ultimately came back to the idea of it didn't
make much sense to me in the end, using logical
reasoning saying that why are you playing a conference championship
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and why do you crown a conference champion if the
conference champion is leap frogged by a team that wasn't
even in the game. So yeah, I don't. I mean,
I think it's for bragging rights this year personally, because
I can't believe like this is all its God's true.
I had the idea and the thought process of what
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you just said, que the trenches. The trenches and the
weather are going to be the two reasons why PAC
twelve teams that came to the Big ten are going
to falter. And I give Dan Lanning and coach Tosh
I give them all their credit and in the world
for being able to prepare their team weekend and week
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out to be able to deal with what I call
a black and blue conference. You're going to beat each
other up I've always said, if you see us losing
later in the year to one another's because we beat
each other up once we started conference play. If you
see us losing the bowl game, it's because you've beaten it.
We've beaten each other up, and you're limping into the
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bowl season this year. I'm sitting there saying, you're gonna
have to go through the same type of changes we've
gone through, and they've done nothing but rise to the
occasion every single week that they've played.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So would you rather this Penn State Oregon game for
the Big Ten title be outdoors than indoors at at
Lucas Oil. I don't care what. Yeah, I get what
you're saying.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Fifteen degree weather and get this like that game we
played in last week. God dang, But it doesn't matter.
This still, to me is a matter of the conversation
of now it looks like it was an amazing, a
tremendous idea to to go after the schools that they
went after and bring them into the Big Ten. Because
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not only do you have a successful approach to having
both coasts and like interested in this game, right, you
have both markets, both the West Coast and the East
Coast interested the ticket sales? Is it bad? Are they bad?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
It's not good?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I bet you. I bet you the I bet you
the ratings will be pretty good.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Let me ask you this, what how much do you
think it is to get into the game right now?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Regular ticket?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Like just to get in, like the cheapest ticket you
can get, cheapest like may be sixty dollars, twelve dollars. Yeah, yeah,
well that's crazy, that's crazy. I think there's going to
be interested.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I still think it's going to generate interest because PAC
twelve sixty bucks, you'll get a couple of plays. Well,
I think PAC twelve people will will be interested. And
again I think that that's why you do this in
the first place, is to extend your your footprint.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Can I be honest, man, Pack twelve people will not
be interested. Like here's here's the reality is. We've seen it.
It is sad because we've seen it through the ratings
this year. It's just the West Coast does not draw.
And I know that pains.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
You guys to hear this because you're in LA and
you think it's a big market.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I'm not from here.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Well I know, but people people like to try to
defend it.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
It's like, oh, okay, well, why don't we just go
look at the ratings to see if you guys like
to watch. It's like people like the spout off about
it and talk about it on.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Twitter x on social media.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Okay, well, you're obviously not watching because the ratings don't
come along with your outcry that you care and you
want to support all this stuff. It's just different. It's
different in the Midwest, it's different in the South. That's
where college football rates. It doesn't rate on the coast.
It just it's doesn't I mean, some would say that
that's the whole debate. Why Miami's in and Alabama's not
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is because Bama's a brand they're going to rate.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
As of right.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Now, they would probably play Notre Dame on December twentieth
at eight pm Eastern time up there, Alabama Notre Dame
to kick off this twelve team expanded playoff the first round.
You don't think that would be Bonker's ratings? Yeah, I mean,
I mean not saying that Miami wouldn't be a little better,
but it's Bama.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
It's just it's got a different feel to it.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
So, by the way, don't be surprised if that matchup
doesn't end up holding out, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox
with you, so we are gonna have some Quinns wins
later on this hour. We've got in case you missed it,
Albert Breer is gonna stop by. He's still on the
Men from that game in Columbus last weekend, and we're
going to close up shop with Lee's leftovers. All of
it is yours until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific.
But apparently somebody has doubled down. They really want back,
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and they've got a lot of reasons to want back.
We'll explain who that is coming up next here in
the NFL right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 3 (24:34):
App Boom Boom Boom. I could never get my voice
as deep as this dude. I used to try. Oh hey, hey, hey,
a whole was that fat out? Oh no, Christmas, Christmas
(24:55):
every day his voice is dope. Yeah, it sounds like
a Yetti Christmas every day. Whoa this is? This is Temptations.
Oh I just asked you the other day. You didn't
know that. Radio Brady didn't know that. Hey, Jonas, don't
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beat that, dude. Can you hit the button on Jonas
for this? Yeah, because I actually know that Q listens
to the Temptations. I believe because I know you. I
gotta I gotta tie you. Don't get away with it
me too. It would be Christmas even. All right, two
pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio.
(25:39):
All right, Jonas LeVar Harrington.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Ding Quinn Jonahs socks with the hair coming up in
about fifteen minutes from now, we are going to have
a special edition of Quinn's wins here on a Thursday morning.
That'll be yours here again about fifteen minutes from now
from the tire rack dot Com STU Bam.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Come on, keep the faith. We might have to kick
you off the show after you got time.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Time.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
The last five weeks, I've been telling people to fabe
it's how bad it's been.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Fade them listen, I got a lot of experience in
that world.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
It's been an epic collapse. I mean, if you really
think about it, I think I started off like ten
and three at one point. Yeah, well where are you
at now? Don't even tell.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Twelve and seventeen?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Damn. Yeah, I've been so much worse.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Trust me, I'm not worried about you. But we're not
on the same level in that regard.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But I'm trying to help you. I'm trying to, let
you know, trying to help influence me. You you're trying
to help influence them to come down there.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And be as low as you. Yeah, I've been there.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Problem is just trying us to stays there. I'm not
trying to stay there.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
That's the problem is. I don't want to help take
your money and go take it to the window and
place the bet too. I'm hovering around five hundred on
Knox locks.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
You claim this stuff, we don't.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
We don't.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
We're not following you.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
First stop.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
You can make whatever claim you want. You could say,
I'm actually on seventy this year. We don't follow it,
so no one even knows if it's true.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It's documented on Fox Sports Radio every Saturday from two
to four Eastern.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Time, eleven am. I'm not listening, letting you guys know. Man,
I'm not listening. I got news for you.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
If not for that collapse by the Jets and Aaron
Rodgers over the weekend, I'd be sitting directly at five
hundred right now. Tang this soon into the season or
this season, you believe that was speaking of Aaron Rodgers
and the Jets, so kind of kick this around. Yesterday
he apparently would like to, you know, I would like
(27:38):
to keep playing, you know, all things, you know, being
equal and he's healthy and everything, you would like to
keep playing. He is also doubled down on that sentiment.
He spoke with the media yesterday and would like to
reiterate that he would like to come back, and he's
got a lot of reasons to do so.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
I mean, I just readid my house here in Jersey.
So my goal was to play a few more years here.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
But we'll see.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
I'd like to be healthy. I'd like to end on
my feet, and then i'd like to play well, and
i'd like, you know, to feel like I'm wanting back.
If not, they don't, that's again, I will not be offended.
I won't be upset. I'll be so thankful either way
whatever happens here. But you know, I got to be
healthy mentally, physically, and then there's got to be interested
on both sides. And if that's not the case, then
I'll look at their options. But first I'll think about
(28:25):
whether I actually want to play or not. But he
usually takes a good, you know month to get away
from it, which I'll do the first month and then
see what happens.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
So I would like to be back building talks like
he has a breath men in his mouth all the time. Life. Well,
we're going to you know, we'll have to wait and
see what we do if they want them back, you know,
if they want me back a little bit of time,
you know, you know, like when a guy has a
breath mint like.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Well, what of our producers for a big new kickoff
like that? Yeah, yeah, it sounds just like that.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
It's a great, very good you guys got he three dimes.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I guess. I guess. My quick question to you guys about.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
This is, is they gonna wait for him?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I mean, there's it's twofold one.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
He's under contract, so they have to make a decision
one way or another, so they're either going.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
To release them.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
And if they try to trade him, I believe he's
got a no trade claws, so he'd have to approve
forhether they're trying to trade him too.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
There's that element of it.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
But the key to what he just said there was,
once I decide if I want to play. Yeah, it's
been a long process. And I guess it's kind of
a leverage point too since he is under contract, or
they would have to essentially just say, hey, we're gonna
release him, and that opens things up, makes it easier
for him. But that was kind of the Brett Farvy
(29:53):
wanted to right. I mean, as he drug it at
the end of his career more and more. I mean's
he is really just taking a page out of bread
Forest play in this case. I just how many teams
are gonna wait to after the draft, so after depending
on how long it takes him to decide if he
wants to play.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Do you guys, let me ask you this, what are
there okay? Do you think he played well enough where
teams will like look at him and say he'll do
better here? Is there a team out there? I mean,
I'm thinking Sam Franz, maybe Bill Belichick thinks it. Yeah,
that's true. And if he and if he's saying that,
then you got to believe that there's other coaches out
(30:29):
there that subscribe to it. But what teams would those be?
That's why I'm trying to think, like, is there a
competitive team that he could get to? Because if you
would have thought like, okay, this would be the most
competitive team personnel wise that he would have came to
when he left Green Bay, there's a perfect setup and
(30:51):
situation for him to do exactly what Tom Brady was
able to do when he left and went to Tampa Bay.
So is there a team out there? I think the
only one I could think of is and if they
got healthy enough everybody came back would maybe be saying, Frans,
there are what other teams out there that it would
(31:13):
make sense? The Giants, But it's I don't think they're
I don't know that they're built to win right now.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's it's with the caveat of they've they're drafting a
quarterback and he's the veteran starter, and the quarterback and
waiting takes.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Over after a year. I don't know if he plays
well I think the Giants is a tough one, man,
because they they have their issues that they have to address.
They're not like a team that looks like he just
built onto his home in New Jersey. Cut the guy
some slack.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
He doesn't have a lot of options outside of there, man,
other than Philly.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
How do you know just built on?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
He said? He said, yeah, I just built on. I
planned on being here a few more years. So that
kind of limits his options if that the case.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I mean, you could put it on the market.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Come on, that isn't Yeah, I don't know that's gonna say.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Man, he just made and also to.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
His crib and also do you think that he played
well enough this year that teams are going to want
to travel.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
But he just like you said, he's going to be
in well, he's going to take a month. He's not
going to be allowed to not be a part of
whatever team and that includes the Jets. Wherever he's at,
he's going to have to be a part of what's
going on. He doesn't. I don't think he has the luxury.
Can't year. I don't think he has that luxury. Whoever
(32:35):
it is that takes it like and that's going to
be one of the main things I would assume they say,
like what they did to Kyler Murray, like hey man,
like no video games, like hey hey man, no, no Iowa,
No trips to the Egypt. You know, no, no sitting
on the top of pyramids. You know that's not going
to happen in his contract. You take one camel, right,
You're out of here, out of here, right? Hey, what
(33:01):
we're wrong? You didn't say.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, I just it feels and then you know, he's
kind of doubled down on saying that he wants ownership
to be supportive of the head coach, publicly of the
front office. And it just feels like there's been a
couple of times where maybe he's called Woody Johnson out
and I just can't figure out whether or not he
(33:30):
really does want to be there and wants to play
for Woody Johnson or he doesn't. DeVante Adams said the
same thing. I would love to be back here next year.
I would love, but it just if you're Woody Johnson,
do you want everybody back like you? He kind of
has some say in this, and if we keep hearing
that it's all about a tear down, that's why it
feels like we're heading towards a divorce. But neither guy
(33:54):
wants to be the one to say that I went out.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
You know, I think what's scary for Woody Johnson is
you're you're concluding some of these rookie contracts and some
of these other contracts may be coming up on the
defense side of the ball, and and so how long
how much longer can you go before you gotta start
making hard decisions on who you're going to re up,
(34:18):
how much that's going to go for, how much longer
can you keep this type of talent all on one roster,
you know, within this this time in space, you gotta
figure what what uh like, Uh Sauce is going into
what his fourth year? Next year would be, his fourth year,
his third year? Uh third, fourth year? Yeah, I mean
(34:39):
I just yea, if I'm Woody Johnson, I'm looking at
it like I need to try because you haven't built
a culture, you haven't won enough where guys will be
open to saying, yeah, let's make it work, Woodie, Like
you got to assume that the experience is probably haven't
been the greatest because they're losing, and you're you're looking
at it like how are we losing? We're we're talented dudes,
(35:01):
but you're losing. So it's not going to be you
have the opportunity to leverage success as a reason why
guys should want to stay. You gotta assume guys are
going to want to try to get out and go
to a team that they can go win with. He's
fighting against that as well. I would assume. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I mean good luck to everybody involved, but you know
it's still the Jets, and I know, LeVar, you've been
highing them this entire time.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
BLib Jets. We've been trying to tell you and you
just don't want to listen for so dig.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
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Speaker 4 (36:29):
I'm a winner. Listen up. Winning cures all illnesses.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
It really does. I'm going to win.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
It's Quinn's win.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
All right, let's do it. Come on, just do it.
Start up, let's do it. Let's go do it. You
don't want to do it, let's get it. You don't
want to do it. Hell yeah, Brady doesn't want to
do it. They don't want to do it. To drop
the call. Huh dropped it? And then we want to
do it.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Not doing it?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, Well listen to He's got a couple of picks
for you. Swear to God, I do. Oh, there you go.
Let's go all right, am I up?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah you go?
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Oh geez, all right, just making sure there you go.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
It's been a rough season so far. It started off great.
I think we're at one point. We were like, I
don't know, nine and four, ten and four. It's been
a rough patch since. Here's what we got for tonight,
No college football, just NFL.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
It's only two picks.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Maybe that'll be our good luck charm as we try
to climb our way back out of this one. Land
the points here with Detroit, it's that three and a
half last time I checked Jonas.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
If it's at three, I'd love and early Christmas drift.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
That being said, Detroit to me seems to be the
best team in the NFL operating all cylinders. I know
this is a divisional matchup, which is what scares me,
but I do feel like Detroit has been able to
overcome some of the injuries they've sustained and still be
able to play.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
At a high level.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
I do think this might be a lower scoring game.
I've got the under a fifty one and a half. Now,
I know both offenses can score, but the truth is, again,
sometimes that familiarity between you know, these sorts of teams,
both these teams divisional teams, ends up acquitting to more
adjustments being made, less scoring. So the under a fifty
one and a half and lay the points with the
(38:13):
Detroit Lions and look, based on how the recent stretch
is gone, go ahead and fade me if you want,
you'll we'll probably end up winning both bees.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
It is three and a half and still three and
a half, but.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I had a funny feeling that we're going to get
to three at some point. It's kind of hovering around
that this entire week. It feels like, so, I mean,
if you Lee, you be the you be the judge
on this. If it gets to three, if it gets
to three before kickoff, will you honor Brady's request for three?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
No?
Speaker 4 (38:47):
No, no, we're to the least point we're making the
bet now.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Yeah, okay, so three and a half right now, that's
where that's where.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Atlanta and the home team has won what four straight?
So yeah, that's uh.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I mean, the real story here is is Lee going
to be able to maintain his composure Because Lee loves
nothing more than a Thursday night football game and a
cocktailer to true cocktail too, and you got the Packers Lee.
(39:21):
Are you going to be able to maintain your composure
during this game or what?
Speaker 3 (39:25):
It's tough because there's a holiday party before the.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Game, right with with drink tickets and uh, you know,
I could do the two drinks, but having two drinks
before a Packers game, I'm gonna want to.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Keep on drinking, right exactly?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Now, are you going to watch the game with you know,
the other hooligans from this place over at the at
the Christmas.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Party or are you going to go somewhere else? I
doubt it. I think I'm gonna go and then get
out of there?
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Is Lorena going?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh yeah, yes I am, and I have the cutest
outfit and I made a box for everyone to take.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Pictures in a Sophie's box.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Why did least say oh, yeah like that? I mean,
was that a tap?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
It?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Cringe?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
It's a Christmas party everyone's been talking about She's been
talking about this party all we have.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah, oh yeah, I'm not even gonna say that.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Everyone wants to see your box Lorena in it?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Oh my god, i'm out. I'm done with this second.
There you go. Well, hey, maybe that was a Quinn's win.
You know.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
We're doing today.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Well if that's the case, then you know we're off
to Auroran start this week.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I mean, for that in the box. In the box,
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(00:41):
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(01:43):
and you could walk up to a window right now
and lay some coin down, would you.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Bet yes or no?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Does LeVar cry next year the first time he sees
his son in a Penn State UNI wearing number eleven.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I think he does.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Oh, I mean, I think That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
You don't think so?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Think y'all both lose. I thought i'd cry when I
got drafted. I like was like ready to kill somebody,
like let's go put my pats on. I think I'll
be ready. I'll be ready for him to kill somebody
when you know, and I guess that's not politically correct
anymore to say it that way, but I'll be ready
for him to ball really hard when I see him
(02:22):
in the uniform.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I don't know, Man, I think you're a pretty sentimental guy.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I am a sentimental guy. I am I am, But
that's how I feel today. I don't believe I will cry.
Maybe the only way I cry is if I look
to my left or look to my right. And to
be honest with you, you know Laila his twin sister.
A lot some people may not know he's a twin.
She is our first and only national champion. She's a
(02:49):
three time national champion as a cheerleader, and she's going
to Penn State to chair. So I might cry when
I see her cheering. Before I cry where I see
my man and my son in a Penn State football
you just didn't generate any tears. Yeah, I don't know,
have to tell you. Yeah, that's more like we're going
like he's going to war in the in the name
(03:12):
of the Arrington family and the Penn State family. So
and reason why we're having the conversation and the reason
why I asked you because obviously signing day was yesterday,
and you know he's so he signed his letter, you know,
so he's officially a Penn State in Ndney Line today.
So big day, man, Yeah, big day day, big day.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Big day for even involved.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
I mean, people should understand this is like one of
those decisions that changes the course the trajectory of a
lot of young people's lives.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And I know everyone's gonna say.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Oh, there's the trips for Pootl Now it doesn't really
mean as much like it still means a lot too.
I think the majority of the young men and women
who in this case we're talking college football, but where
they decide to go to school, it sets up the
rest of their life, oftentimes where they settle once they're done,
the network that they work through and work with. So
(04:02):
it's a huge decision. You gotta feel good though. Man,
it's awesome. He's obviously signing and you got two you know,
to sign of the Penn State following your footsteps.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Pretty cool, man, Pretty cool, Pretty humbling, you know, just
just to have the journey be the way that it was.
I mean, you're going through it you're like in the
in the thick of it, you know, I'm I'm like
and through like, I'm I got one. I mean, I'm
hitting at Stanford tomorrow because they made it into the
volleyball tournament, the NCAA tournament. Uh. She's a freshman of
(04:33):
the Year in the in the w c C and
she's she's amazing. And and so I'm to the point
now where seeing what what I believe my I mean,
I give all the credit to my wife. I'll take
maybe a little bit of it, but the parenting aspect
of what takes place with your your church, yeah, it's uh,
(04:56):
that's a very real thing. Man. I've always said like,
and some people have debated me through the years, and
I'm okay with not being all the way correct, you know,
but I've always said success is taught, and success is learned,
and you're trained to be successful. I don't think you
become successful by accident. I don't think that it's it's
(05:19):
by chance that you become successful. I think it's a process.
You learn the process and you continue to build on it.
And I'll say this, my kids are excellent in school,
way better than what I was. They're excellent contributors to
our communities. They understand what the true values of family are,
(05:43):
and what the true values of hard work and dedication
and having a passion for what it is that you do,
and passion and love for your fellow person. I mean,
those are foundational components that me and me and trishare
were raised on and that was what we taught them.
And then you start to see it come out of
them once they get a little older. Cause man, man
(06:04):
was the slowest of them all. They say, kid, the
boys they develop like slower than what the girls do.
It's in our case, it was one hundred percent correct.
Like I you know, for the longest time, I look
out man and just be like, oh my gosh, like
I don't know. I don't know about you, dude. And
I would tell him to his face like I don't
(06:24):
know about you, my guy, I don't know. You know,
I just you just don't get it. I don't know.
You kind of hit me as like I can't get right,
like or you can't get right. And then overnight it
was like overnight, like he started handling things differently, started
making sure his room was cleaned. He started making sure
(06:44):
he was clean, you know, it's just a whole bunch
of little things that you're like, why doesn't he do it?
You know what I mean? As a parent. And then
once they get to that point of where you start
to see him transition into actually doing things as a
respetponsible person and you don't have to stand over top
(07:05):
of them like why do this? Do that? Do that?
Like you didn't do this. Your chore list is very
clear as to what you need to do, and then
you have to you know, you get to the point
where you don't have to threaten them no more, like
I had no practice today, you know, no working out today, like,
none of that. It's just been an amazing journey, man.
(07:25):
And yesterday it was a lot of emotions. Man, it
was a lot of emotions seeing him sign, you know,
for for Penn State and just seeing how that all
turned out. I mean, just if you're a parent out
there and you're looking at your kid and they're getting
on your nerves or you don't feel like they hear you,
my advice to you would be, man, where I'm at now,
just keep telling them, just keep going, just keep supporting them,
(07:49):
just keep putting those values, pouring your love and pouring
your belief into your kids, even when you get frustrated,
even when they they do things that kind of, you know,
you feel like they let you down or whatever it
may be. Just keep being a stab fast parent because
they will get it. They will get it, and you'll
start to see what it is that get it is
(08:11):
in a person that you made, which is like the
wildest thing ever. So I'm pretty proud, man. I gotta
say I'm you know, I act like I'm a I'm
a fake bragger, is what I am. Like. I'm a
fake arrogant. I'm not really arrogant, and I'm not really
a bragger. I really don't want any attention. I really
don't like being in front of people. I really don't
(08:33):
like a lot of things. I just want to be alone,
kind of sort of like in reality radio. Yeah, because
I don't have to see anybody. I can talk to you,
but I don't have to see you. I can end
it when I want to end it. Like it's kind
of a weird thing because I hate doing television. I've
done it, but I've never really been into it because
(08:53):
I just I feel weird. It's a weird thing. I
gotta like you gotta see me. I don't want you
to see me, but anyway, regardless, I just this is
one of those moments where I actually am really kind
of proud, super proud, and super super confident about you
know what my kids represents those pretty cool man.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Listen, congratulations to you, and we will be waiting to
see those tiers not going.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't think I'm a cry, oh Jonas, I don't
think I'm a cry. I would, I would ball my
ass off. I don't think i'm a.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I don't know about bawling like that. I think I
think you get choked up.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm gonna get choked up. For certain I'll get choked up. So, Uh, Braden,
you are back.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
You are you are back, and we're going to find
out and get some clarity this weekend when it comes
to the college football playoff rankings.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Uh, what's the biggest bitch.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
For you when it comes to college football playoff rankings?
Because I was thinking about this, I would like to
reserve my right to complain after we get to see
the final twelve released and the brackets come out, because
I think it's too cool of a setup with the
home games and all of that that come along with
it to sit here and maybe cry and complain like
some people are conditioned to do when they're used to
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the four team?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Am I horrible for saying I hope? I mean, I
don't hope Penn State loses, but damn a home game
and the perceived bracket we would have to get to
the final be sweet.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Well, the problem is, I don't know if you lose
you can guarantee yourself in a home game spot. I
mean I think you'd you'd think that you would. But
that's the scary thing about that is like I don't
especially the way you.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Lose, well that will be true.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Yeah, I guess The general point is I don't have
a ton of gripes with the College Football Playoff Committee,
and I'll get to that in a second. It's more
of the scheduling in general. Like we're comparing the strength
of schedule for the Big Ten in the SEC and
the ACC and the Big twelve, and not every conference
plays nine conference games, So you kind of start there.
(11:01):
For me, where you go, Okay, a nine and three
Bama team, Are they nine and three if they have
to play additional conference game?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Maybe they are, Maybe they're not maybe that only enhances
their strengthens their argument to be a part of the.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
College football playoff.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
So it's tough because, look, we get the chance to
go around the country and see different teams in person.
And there's two sides of this conversation. There's the well,
that's why you play the game, right, that argument. The
most recent game I was at, the game Ohio State
Michigan is a prime example of, well, this is why
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you play the game. Because even though Ohio State's a
twenty and a half point favorite, they get beat at
home and physically dominated by Michigan.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So that's why you play those games.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Now, that being said, when I see Michigan, when I
see you know, Ohio State, Penn State, these Big ten
teams compared to some of the Big twelve schools we
saw this year, is there a difference. Yeah, there's a
different There's differences in the trenches. Maybe the skilled position
players a little more even you know, maybe you say
the quarterbacks, all right, little a little more, even running backs,
et cetera. The difference is in the trenches. You see
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it on the offensive line, defensive line, each side. And
that's kind of hard to be able to judge in
a box score and sometimes when you're watching tape or
watching highlights. But that's that's where the championships are won
and lost. Look at the recent history, Look at Michigan,
look at Georgia, you know, look at some of the
teams that have been able to win. It's arguably because
of oftentimes what they do up front. So my gripes
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aren't against you know, the ACC for example, with the
athletic director for Miami and the ACC you know, Commissioner
Jim Phillips come out and they hammer the College Football
Playoff Committee because I think these people who are part
of the committee have a really hard job.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
When it was four teams.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Someone was going to moan about, you know, not being
number four, and it was probably five and.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Someone probably had a case.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Then now it's twelve and it's everyone's suposed to be
excited about it. Instead now we're ticked off that, you know, hey,
it's Miami who's sitting in the twelve spot right now.
But that means they're basically not a part of it.
And mostly because a lot of people out there have
been trying to say this the entire season, don't understand
the format of the actual playoff. So I don't have
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many gripes with the way the rankings are. I have
more questions, like Miami can't possibly move up. I just
it feels like it's impossible unless there's maybe a bunch
of upsets or something. But even then, Ward Manual has
talked about not dinging teams who lose in the conference
championship weekend, which is probably not the smartest thing to say,
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because if you go back through you know, the history
of the college football Playoff Grand and four teams, they
would talk about the fact that they're going to every
single week reevaluate these teams, and it almost seems like
they're allowing the story that's already been written on most
these teams to kind of dictate why they are where
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they are.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So I look at a team at Miami and I
say that stinks. Man.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Now, you could say, hey, just beat Syracuse and you're in.
Beat Georgia Tech, you're in, and that's that's fair and fine.
But there's you know, they got two losses, and they're
looking at teams, you know, like Alabama, and they look
at other teams that are trying to make a grive
and say, oh, we should be in instead of them.
I look at SMU, and that's the team I probably
look at and say the committee could be the most
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unfair too, because they're in a position now where if
they win, obviously they're in. But based on how it's
set up, if clemsone's the ACC, there'll be a three
loss conference champ and they will automatically go. And then
that leaves you at SMU with two losses, and how
far do you drop. We've seen some teams drop as
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much as eight or nine spots in one in one
week's rankings. We've seen some drop on average about five
or six, so that would drop SMU out. And I
think if you're a part of the you know crowd
that says they don't have any ranked wins, you're right
they don't. The ACC has not been as strong as
some of the other powerful conferences. But how are you
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going to tell that team that you know, it's only
lost two games the entire season? I guess three in
this case, that they shouldn't go ahead of a team
like BAMA who wasn't playing the conference championship.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
It has won as many games.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
It's just I can understand the difficulty of making these decisions,
but it feels like no matter how much we expand,
there's always going to be people ticked off.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, it's like college basketball goes from you know, thirty
two to sixty four. They add in the plan, they've
got the sixty eight teams that are qualifying, and then
people are.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
The bubble team still got snubbed, Like.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, and it is weird that SMU in a in
a weird way would almost be better off, Like like
it's they're risking almost everything by playing this weekend. It
feels like because yeah, if they lose that game, all
of a sudden, they're going to be asked out and
people are going to be looking at potentially Alabama getting
in over them, and then Alabama causes all the controversy
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and complaining is getting.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Worth play the games? And that would keep.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yes, But also this is like this came up.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
One of the guys from barstool actually said this back
when Ohio State was playing Indiana when it was a
thought that Indiana wouldn't be a part of the playoff.
And the comment was, if you forfeit, the NCAA registers.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
It as one to nothing.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
So if s MU just forfeited to Clemson, they would
lose one to nothing, which that in that event, yes
they'd have another loss.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
But lost.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Exactly of the wire.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
That's interesting, So you could try using that same logic
in this case. Should play State, y'all go ahead, take it.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
We gonna take this one. Had this flight to lay
couldn't get there?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
It does? It does.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I was having this debate with a buddy a couple
of days ago. It does called a question though, in
all seriousness when you bring that up, Levart, if Penn
State plays this game, yeah, maybe they get a home
play home, you know, host a home playoff game.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Maybe they don't.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
And and also you risk potential injury of your players.
I mean, if you really look at the path, you'd
almost rather be a team that plays playing a conference
championship game and can host. Which I hate to admit this,
but that's exactly how it works for Notre Dame. By
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the way, I'm not just saying for this year. I'm
just saying that's always kind of the path they have
to go, and it's to me the smartest path, because of.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Course it is do well.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Of course, if conference championships have I mean, our conference
championships meaningful now you have to seriously ask that question,
because if it's all about winning the national championship, all
those conference championships.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I would I agree with you just and obviously because
we won the conference championship and didn't go to the
playoff at one point, so I would agree, like, what
does it matter to win the conference championship and you
took a team from the conference that didn't win the
conference championship and the team that did was left out. Now,
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granted that that was when it was four teams, but
nonetheless that was when I was like, Okay, conference championship, Like, great,
we're Big ten champs, Big ten champs that are sitting
home watching a team that didn't even play in the game.
They weren't even considered to be one of the representatives
of the two best teams to see who was the
best team in the conference. They weren't even in the game,
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and they're in the playoffs. It's just like so for me, yeah,
I mean I changed my opinion on conference championships once
once we realized that conference championships didn't guarantee that you
would get in especially Big Ten, Like a Big Ten
conference championship that's not guaranteeing you to get into the playoffs.
So that was when I felt the way that I
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felt about it. I know, you know, there were discussions
and debates you know that I actually thought made sense,
but ultimately came back to the idea of it didn't
make much sense to me in the end, using logical
reasoning saying that why are you playing a conference championship
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and why do you crown a conference champion if the
conference champion is leap frogged by a team that wasn't
even in the game. So yeah, I don't. I mean,
I think it's for bragging rights this year personally, because
I can't believe like this is all its God's true.
I had the idea and the thought process of what
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you just said, que the trenches. The trenches and the
weather are going to be the two reasons why PAC
twelve teams that came to the Big ten are going
to falter. And I give Dan Lanning and coach Tosh
I give them all their credit and in the world
for being able to prepare their team weekend and week
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out to be able to deal with what I call
a black and blue conference. You're going to beat each
other up I've always said, if you see us losing
later in the year to one another's because we beat
each other up once we started conference play. If you
see us losing the bowl game, it's because you've beaten it.
We've beaten each other up, and you're limping into the
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bowl season this year. I'm sitting there saying, you're gonna
have to go through the same type of changes we've
gone through, and they've done nothing but rise to the
occasion every single week that they've played.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So would you rather this Penn State Oregon game for
the Big Ten title be outdoors than indoors at at
Lucas Oil. I don't care what. Yeah, I get what
you're saying.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Fifteen degree weather and get this like that game we
played in last week. God dang, But it doesn't matter.
This still, to me is a matter of the conversation
of now it looks like it was an amazing, a
tremendous idea to to go after the schools that they
went after and bring them into the Big Ten. Because
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not only do you have a successful approach to having
both coasts and like interested in this game, right, you
have both markets, both the West Coast and the East
Coast interested the ticket sales? Is it bad? Are they bad?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
It's not good?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I bet you. I bet you the I bet you
the ratings will be pretty good.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Let me ask you this, what how much do you
think it is to get into the game right now?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Regular ticket?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Like just to get in, like the cheapest ticket you
can get, cheapest like may be sixty dollars, twelve dollars. Yeah, yeah,
well that's crazy, that's crazy. I think there's going to
be interested.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I still think it's going to generate interest because PAC
twelve sixty bucks, you'll get a couple of plays. Well,
I think PAC twelve people will will be interested. And
again I think that that's why you do this in
the first place, is to extend your your footprint.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Can I be honest, man, Pack twelve people will not
be interested. Like here's here's the reality is. We've seen it.
It is sad because we've seen it through the ratings
this year. It's just the West Coast does not draw.
And I know that pains.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
You guys to hear this because you're in LA and
you think it's a big market.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I'm not from here.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Well I know, but people people like to try to
defend it.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
It's like, oh, okay, well, why don't we just go
look at the ratings to see if you guys like
to watch. It's like people like the spout off about
it and talk about it on.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Twitter x on social media.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Okay, well, you're obviously not watching because the ratings don't
come along with your outcry that you care and you
want to support all this stuff. It's just different. It's
different in the Midwest, it's different in the South. That's
where college football rates. It doesn't rate on the coast.
It just it's doesn't I mean, some would say that
that's the whole debate. Why Miami's in and Alabama's not
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is because Bama's a brand they're going to rate.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
As of right.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Now, they would probably play Notre Dame on December twentieth
at eight pm Eastern time up there, Alabama Notre Dame
to kick off this twelve team expanded playoff the first round.
You don't think that would be Bonker's ratings? Yeah, I mean,
I mean not saying that Miami wouldn't be a little better,
but it's Bama.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
It's just it's got a different feel to it.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
So, by the way, don't be surprised if that matchup
doesn't end up holding out, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox
with you, so we are gonna have some Quinns wins
later on this hour. We've got in case you missed it,
Albert Breer is gonna stop by. He's still on the
Men from that game in Columbus last weekend, and we're
going to close up shop with Lee's leftovers. All of
it is yours until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific.
But apparently somebody has doubled down. They really want back,
(24:13):
and they've got a lot of reasons to want back.
We'll explain who that is coming up next here in
the NFL right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
App Boom Boom Boom. I could never get my voice
as deep as this dude. I used to try. Oh hey, hey, hey,
a whole was that fat out? Oh no, Christmas, Christmas
(24:55):
every day his voice is dope. Yeah, it sounds like
a Yetti Christmas every day. Whoa this is? This is Temptations.
Oh I just asked you the other day. You didn't
know that. Radio Brady didn't know that. Hey, Jonas, don't
(25:17):
beat that, dude. Can you hit the button on Jonas
for this? Yeah, because I actually know that Q listens
to the Temptations. I believe because I know you. I
gotta I gotta tie you. Don't get away with it
me too. It would be Christmas even. All right, two
pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio.
(25:39):
All right, Jonas LeVar Harrington.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Ding Quinn Jonahs socks with the hair coming up in
about fifteen minutes from now, we are going to have
a special edition of Quinn's wins here on a Thursday morning.
That'll be yours here again about fifteen minutes from now
from the tire rack dot Com STU Bam.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Come on, keep the faith. We might have to kick
you off the show after you got time.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Time.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
The last five weeks, I've been telling people to fabe
it's how bad it's been.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Fade them listen, I got a lot of experience in
that world.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
It's been an epic collapse. I mean, if you really
think about it, I think I started off like ten
and three at one point. Yeah, well where are you
at now? Don't even tell.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Twelve and seventeen?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Damn. Yeah, I've been so much worse.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Trust me, I'm not worried about you. But we're not
on the same level in that regard.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But I'm trying to help you. I'm trying to, let
you know, trying to help influence me. You you're trying
to help influence them to come down there.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And be as low as you. Yeah, I've been there.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Problem is just trying us to stays there. I'm not
trying to stay there.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
That's the problem is. I don't want to help take
your money and go take it to the window and
place the bet too. I'm hovering around five hundred on
Knox locks.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
You claim this stuff, we don't.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
We don't.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
We're not following you.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
First stop.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
You can make whatever claim you want. You could say,
I'm actually on seventy this year. We don't follow it,
so no one even knows if it's true.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It's documented on Fox Sports Radio every Saturday from two
to four Eastern.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Time, eleven am. I'm not listening, letting you guys know. Man,
I'm not listening. I got news for you.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
If not for that collapse by the Jets and Aaron
Rodgers over the weekend, I'd be sitting directly at five
hundred right now. Tang this soon into the season or
this season, you believe that was speaking of Aaron Rodgers
and the Jets, so kind of kick this around. Yesterday
he apparently would like to, you know, I would like
(27:38):
to keep playing, you know, all things, you know, being
equal and he's healthy and everything, you would like to
keep playing. He is also doubled down on that sentiment.
He spoke with the media yesterday and would like to
reiterate that he would like to come back, and he's
got a lot of reasons to do so.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
I mean, I just readid my house here in Jersey.
So my goal was to play a few more years here.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
But we'll see.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
I'd like to be healthy. I'd like to end on
my feet, and then i'd like to play well, and
i'd like, you know, to feel like I'm wanting back.
If not, they don't, that's again, I will not be offended.
I won't be upset. I'll be so thankful either way
whatever happens here. But you know, I got to be
healthy mentally, physically, and then there's got to be interested
on both sides. And if that's not the case, then
I'll look at their options. But first I'll think about
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whether I actually want to play or not. But he
usually takes a good, you know month to get away
from it, which I'll do the first month and then
see what happens.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
So I would like to be back building talks like
he has a breath men in his mouth all the time. Life. Well,
we're going to you know, we'll have to wait and
see what we do if they want them back, you know,
if they want me back a little bit of time,
you know, you know, like when a guy has a
breath mint like.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Well, what of our producers for a big new kickoff
like that? Yeah, yeah, it sounds just like that.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
It's a great, very good you guys got he three dimes.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I guess. I guess. My quick question to you guys about.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
This is, is they gonna wait for him?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I mean, there's it's twofold one.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
He's under contract, so they have to make a decision
one way or another, so they're either going.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
To release them.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
And if they try to trade him, I believe he's
got a no trade claws, so he'd have to approve
forhether they're trying to trade him too.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
There's that element of it.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
But the key to what he just said there was,
once I decide if I want to play. Yeah, it's
been a long process. And I guess it's kind of
a leverage point too since he is under contract, or
they would have to essentially just say, hey, we're gonna
release him, and that opens things up, makes it easier
for him. But that was kind of the Brett Farvy
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wanted to right. I mean, as he drug it at
the end of his career more and more. I mean's
he is really just taking a page out of bread
Forest play in this case. I just how many teams
are gonna wait to after the draft, so after depending
on how long it takes him to decide if he
wants to play.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Do you guys, let me ask you this, what are
there okay? Do you think he played well enough where
teams will like look at him and say he'll do
better here? Is there a team out there? I mean,
I'm thinking Sam Franz, maybe Bill Belichick thinks it. Yeah,
that's true. And if he and if he's saying that,
then you got to believe that there's other coaches out
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there that subscribe to it. But what teams would those be?
That's why I'm trying to think, like, is there a
competitive team that he could get to? Because if you
would have thought like, okay, this would be the most
competitive team personnel wise that he would have came to
when he left Green Bay, there's a perfect setup and
(30:51):
situation for him to do exactly what Tom Brady was
able to do when he left and went to Tampa Bay.
So is there a team out there? I think the
only one I could think of is and if they
got healthy enough everybody came back would maybe be saying, Frans,
there are what other teams out there that it would
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make sense? The Giants, But it's I don't think they're
I don't know that they're built to win right now.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's it's with the caveat of they've they're drafting a
quarterback and he's the veteran starter, and the quarterback and
waiting takes.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Over after a year. I don't know if he plays
well I think the Giants is a tough one, man,
because they they have their issues that they have to address.
They're not like a team that looks like he just
built onto his home in New Jersey. Cut the guy
some slack.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
He doesn't have a lot of options outside of there, man,
other than Philly.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
How do you know just built on?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
He said? He said, yeah, I just built on. I
planned on being here a few more years. So that
kind of limits his options if that the case.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I mean, you could put it on the market.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Come on, that isn't Yeah, I don't know that's gonna say.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Man, he just made and also to.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
His crib and also do you think that he played
well enough this year that teams are going to want
to travel.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
But he just like you said, he's going to be
in well, he's going to take a month. He's not
going to be allowed to not be a part of
whatever team and that includes the Jets. Wherever he's at,
he's going to have to be a part of what's
going on. He doesn't. I don't think he has the luxury.
Can't year. I don't think he has that luxury. Whoever
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it is that takes it like and that's going to
be one of the main things I would assume they say,
like what they did to Kyler Murray, like hey man,
like no video games, like hey hey man, no, no Iowa,
No trips to the Egypt. You know, no, no sitting
on the top of pyramids. You know that's not going
to happen in his contract. You take one camel, right,
You're out of here, out of here, right? Hey, what
(33:01):
we're wrong? You didn't say.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, I just it feels and then you know, he's
kind of doubled down on saying that he wants ownership
to be supportive of the head coach, publicly of the
front office. And it just feels like there's been a
couple of times where maybe he's called Woody Johnson out
and I just can't figure out whether or not he
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really does want to be there and wants to play
for Woody Johnson or he doesn't. DeVante Adams said the
same thing. I would love to be back here next year.
I would love, but it just if you're Woody Johnson,
do you want everybody back like you? He kind of
has some say in this, and if we keep hearing
that it's all about a tear down, that's why it
feels like we're heading towards a divorce. But neither guy
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wants to be the one to say that I went out.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
You know, I think what's scary for Woody Johnson is
you're you're concluding some of these rookie contracts and some
of these other contracts may be coming up on the
defense side of the ball, and and so how long
how much longer can you go before you gotta start
making hard decisions on who you're going to re up,
(34:18):
how much that's going to go for, how much longer
can you keep this type of talent all on one roster,
you know, within this this time in space, you gotta
figure what what uh like, Uh Sauce is going into
what his fourth year? Next year would be, his fourth year,
his third year? Uh third, fourth year? Yeah, I mean
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I just yea, if I'm Woody Johnson, I'm looking at
it like I need to try because you haven't built
a culture, you haven't won enough where guys will be
open to saying, yeah, let's make it work, Woodie, Like
you got to assume that the experience is probably haven't
been the greatest because they're losing, and you're you're looking
at it like how are we losing? We're we're talented dudes,
(35:01):
but you're losing. So it's not going to be you
have the opportunity to leverage success as a reason why
guys should want to stay. You gotta assume guys are
going to want to try to get out and go
to a team that they can go win with. He's
fighting against that as well. I would assume. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I mean good luck to everybody involved, but you know
it's still the Jets, and I know, LeVar, you've been
highing them this entire time.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
BLib Jets. We've been trying to tell you and you
just don't want to listen for so dig.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
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Speaker 2 (35:44):
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Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knoxer here
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Speaker 4 (36:29):
I'm a winner. Listen up. Winning cures all illnesses.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
It really does. I'm going to win.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
It's Quinn's win.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
All right, let's do it. Come on, just do it.
Start up, let's do it. Let's go do it. You
don't want to do it, let's get it. You don't
want to do it. Hell yeah, Brady doesn't want to
do it. They don't want to do it. To drop
the call. Huh dropped it? And then we want to
do it.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Not doing it?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, Well listen to He's got a couple of picks
for you. Swear to God, I do. Oh, there you go.
Let's go all right, am I up?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah you go?
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Oh geez, all right, just making sure there you go.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
It's been a rough season so far. It started off great.
I think we're at one point. We were like, I
don't know, nine and four, ten and four. It's been
a rough patch since. Here's what we got for tonight,
No college football, just NFL.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
It's only two picks.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Maybe that'll be our good luck charm as we try
to climb our way back out of this one. Land
the points here with Detroit, it's that three and a
half last time I checked Jonas.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
If it's at three, I'd love and early Christmas drift.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
That being said, Detroit to me seems to be the
best team in the NFL operating all cylinders. I know
this is a divisional matchup, which is what scares me,
but I do feel like Detroit has been able to
overcome some of the injuries they've sustained and still be
able to play.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
At a high level.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
I do think this might be a lower scoring game.
I've got the under a fifty one and a half. Now,
I know both offenses can score, but the truth is, again,
sometimes that familiarity between you know, these sorts of teams,
both these teams divisional teams, ends up acquitting to more
adjustments being made, less scoring. So the under a fifty
one and a half and lay the points with the
(38:13):
Detroit Lions and look, based on how the recent stretch
is gone, go ahead and fade me if you want,
you'll we'll probably end up winning both bees.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
It is three and a half and still three and
a half, but.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I had a funny feeling that we're going to get
to three at some point. It's kind of hovering around
that this entire week. It feels like, so, I mean,
if you Lee, you be the you be the judge
on this. If it gets to three, if it gets
to three before kickoff, will you honor Brady's request for three?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
No?
Speaker 4 (38:47):
No, no, we're to the least point we're making the
bet now.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Yeah, okay, so three and a half right now, that's
where that's where.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Atlanta and the home team has won what four straight?
So yeah, that's uh.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I mean, the real story here is is Lee going
to be able to maintain his composure Because Lee loves
nothing more than a Thursday night football game and a
cocktailer to true cocktail too, and you got the Packers Lee.
(39:21):
Are you going to be able to maintain your composure
during this game or what?
Speaker 3 (39:25):
It's tough because there's a holiday party before the.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Game, right with with drink tickets and uh, you know,
I could do the two drinks, but having two drinks
before a Packers game, I'm gonna want to.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Keep on drinking, right exactly?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Now, are you going to watch the game with you know,
the other hooligans from this place over at the at
the Christmas.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Party or are you going to go somewhere else? I
doubt it. I think I'm gonna go and then get
out of there?
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Is Lorena going?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh yeah, yes I am, and I have the cutest
outfit and I made a box for everyone to take.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Pictures in a Sophie's box.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Why did least say oh, yeah like that? I mean,
was that a tap?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
It?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Cringe?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
It's a Christmas party everyone's been talking about She's been
talking about this party all we have.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah, oh yeah, I'm not even gonna say that.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Everyone wants to see your box Lorena in it?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Oh my god, i'm out. I'm done with this second.
There you go. Well, hey, maybe that was a Quinn's win.
You know.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
We're doing today.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Well if that's the case, then you know we're off
to Auroran start this week.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I mean, for that in the box. In the box,
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