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Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys talk about the Patriots dominating the Giants on MNF as well as Giants DE Abdul Carter sitting out the first series of the game for rumored disciplinary reasons, Lane Kiffin getting introduced at LSU, ICYMI, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Tuesday edition, of course, we're going to
have Dean Blandino stop by. We got stuff to get
to in the world of college football in the NFL
from a rural standpoint. We're also going to talk about
Monday Night football. What storylines were actually interesting, Well, there
was Jackson Dard who apparently likes to take big hits.

(00:20):
There was the physical style of play of the New
England Patriots and how they look. And then well, I
guess you also had Abdul Carter, who I guess he
was busy in a team meeting and there's rumors out
there and it's kind of gross. But we'll get into
all that for you.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Here.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
We've got more on the details behind the Lane Kiffin contract.
We've got the potential next head coach of the Penn
State Nitney Lions lined up, we think, and apparently they're
just throwing everybody under the bus in the NFL. When
it comes to the Las Vegas Raiders, it's all yours.
Coming up next here, Two Pros and a Cup of
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Speaker 2 (01:37):
With this song?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I disagree with this song? I can't tell you that
what the good? Google?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Is this new? Has this always been?

Speaker 5 (01:47):
In?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
No? It just I think it just hit me a
little different today. For so, I hate that song?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
What you why?

Speaker 4 (01:52):
I actually think I paid attention to it as well.
It's awful.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I mean, do you want to know why it hit
you differently because there was some hitting wide on last night.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, there was. What a game? What a game? I
thought that was a game.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Guys are getting lit up. It's just getting up.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
They talk about Monday night football.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
All right, what do you want to get into then elsewhere?

Speaker 6 (02:15):
Let's yeah, I mean anything other than a twenty seven
to seven game a half.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
In a blowout. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
He's the only thing I'll take away from that game.
Two things happen that are going to be noteworthy. Everyone's
going to make a big deal about Jackson darkt and
absolutely lit up on the sideline, which on him, And
it's shocking that he hasn't learned by now after all
the hits he's taken, why he would just think that
he could get an extra yard or so and no

(02:41):
one's going to take a shot at him. A legal hit,
by the way. And then I have no idea what
happened on the kick.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
I just I've never seen that before in my life.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
And I don't get it, Like why did he stop well,
like why did he just put his foot in the
ground like it just seemed like it was a normal routine.
Why I don't understand why he stopped.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Maybe that patch of turf was like three inches taller
than the other around it, and so he just tripped
up on it like a little speed bump in the turf.
Maybe that's what it was. Other than that doesn't make
any sense whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
He just personally, I'm confused as to why Q didn't
at A three most memorable, which was the coach's decision
not to play Abdual.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Carter were going to do it.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
So, I mean, I wait to see, I waits.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, I don't I.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Do my job, you know what I mean, Like, I don't.
I don't do this like their pennstaters or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I do my job. And I know that's three.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Like I thought, it was interesting how the telecast danced
around the fact that it was like when they came
out at halftime, the reporter asked the coach, you know,
why isn't he you know, why did you sit Abdual
for the first quarter? And it was a coach decision,
like okay, thank you coach, and you ended the interview.

(04:04):
It's not even like you asked another question. So it
made that reporter feel so awkward that he would just say, oh,
it's just a football a coach's decision. Like you can't
elaborate on that, Like, you do know that this is
Monday night football, You do know you're an interim head coach.
You do know that this is the New York Giants.
You do know this is the New York Giants versus

(04:25):
the Patriots. How do you not press the question? So
it almost seems as though it was almost like a
like even when Joe and Troy touched on it, it
was more or less a Okay, it's a coach's decision
and no context, no color to it. Generally speaking, you're

(04:48):
going to give a little context, a little color to
why a player isn't playing in the game, especially when
you list them as a starter on the telecab Do
you want to do?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
You want to hear Mike Kafka afterwards the absolutely interim
head coach. Here was him hopefully answering the question that
everybody wants to know why Abdul Carter was benched for
the start of that game.

Speaker 7 (05:11):
You know, I talked with that duel about this week
and decided to not play them for the first two series.
This was just strictly my decision to not play him
this week early in the game, early in the game.
And he listen when he came back in the game,
you saw the kind of impact he had and the
player that this guy is, and I this is a
this is a kid that I again I back, I
support this highly and for any young player that we

(05:33):
have on the roster, whether it's a duel or any
rookie or young player, we're gonna make sure we take
him under our wing and continue to develop these guys
because they're poor in us. They're important to me and
them duels no different, just like Jackson, just like you know,
young players like Tracy and da all these guys are
that are stepping up in big time, major roles.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
You know, these are the guys that.

Speaker 7 (05:54):
We're continuing to develop, continuing to grow, continue to be pros.
And you know, the standards that we have in our
program him are super sky high and everyone's upheld to him.
But that was my decision, my decision only anything else
else outside of it, it's gonna be kept in house.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I mean, speak to the last part of what you said.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
You know, Shody danced around it with with Lamb and pickings.
Why do co if you're going to make a disciplinary
hold on decision.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
What well, I mean as far as what's been alleged
of what happened, I don't know if we're going to
kill into that de he it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
We can't go into what's alleged. Swing in the mud.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Get why are you not going? But why are you
not going to talk about it?

Speaker 8 (06:42):
If?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
If that's what you're going to do, you know you're
going to be asked about it. Like even that explanation
that he just gave, he gave no context until the end.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
He says, Okay, there's a standard.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
It's a very high standard, and everybody's going to be
held to it. What exactly are you talking about? Like,
you don't have to go into the gory gory details
of anything, but you can give some Okay, he did X?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Like go ahead, Q, what is it alleged that he X?
What he did that would lead.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
To him not living up to this standard of what
being a New York Giant is supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Let's do this. Do we have the sound of abdull Carter?
Do we have it?

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Jonas, No, we don't have Abdual Card.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
I think we do we're just working on it.

Speaker 9 (07:31):
That's efforting, efforting, efforting now, so it's not a great explanation,
but I do think that we have to be have
some integrity here and make sure that we hear from
not just a coach but also the player.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I'm going to be fair to all parties here.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Correct.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
Before we started throwing around some allegations that you know
aren't very flattering. They're not flattering again, sure, Lorna. I
think there's a clip of it. You can just hear
the beginning part.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
So well, it's ready if you want it, all right,
let's do it justified.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah, I mean I let my team down the first
two jobs I was out, they excore seventeen points.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'll take that. I take responsibility for that. I gotta
be out there. I gotta do better.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I mean, sounds responsible to me, you know.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
Yea sounds doesn't really want to say what exactly happened.
But now more your this is more your real houseas well.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I'm just a fair and bounce reporter, So I mean
there now. Jordan Renan, who covers the Giants for espn uh,
he said that Abdull Carter. This came out a short
time ago that Abdul Carter was benched for the first
quarter of the game because of tardiness. It was the
second time in three games that the rookie linebacker was disciplined.

(08:57):
So this just standard tardiness.

Speaker 10 (08:59):
It ha been.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
The report that was that's all you're going with, it's all.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
So there's that. Then there was a report that came
out earlier on from Wesley Steinberg, who I'm almost positive
this is a fake account.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I was about to say, who is he?

Speaker 1 (09:14):
I don't know. I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
So this was this was but.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
You well, I mean, listen, here's here's the report from
Wesley Steinberg. The Giants defense van Abdul Carter will miss
the first drive tonight for disciplinary reasons after getting caught
watching porn in a team meeting when his headphones disconnected.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Now, what do you mean what his headphones disconnected? What
does that mean?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Listened, he had his headphones in and he was watching,
you know, something.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
On but didn't know that he had his headphones disconnected.
So the sound he popped out was going out through
the meeting.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, they popped out.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
Yeah, which, you know, I gotta be honest with you,
I'm not sure that's the first time that's probably ever
happened in a team meeting, you know, or that a
guy had that happened before.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, that definitely is not unique. Yeah, and that's not
on me.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
I'm just saying that's not There are some really really
nasty dudes that be in locker rooms.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
That's right, And I would say it's more on the
defensive side of the ball than offensive.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Got The names that popped into my head immediately were receivers.
I'm sorry, receivers. Receivers are the biggest freaks in locker rooms. Man.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
I'm thinking about a few defensive players in the back.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Of my head right now that I'm like, yeah, okay,
I'm thinking of a few. And that was before you
had internet traveling, you know, stuff like that. Like I'm
talking dudes had many DVD movie TV players.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
What about what about tight ends that may or may
not be behind bars currently?

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, I mean that's next level. Yeah, that's next level freak.
But that's a that's an offensive player.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I mean, you get it done.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
This is interesting conversation. In the actual game itself.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
You running out their homeless shorties, man, Like, come on, bro,
good looking dude, us.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Really repped your engine on that shopping cart in the car.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Come on, ben, dude was riding his bicycle like on
the move, a John on the move man, Come on, man,
you could do better than that. But that's a but Listen,
people be allowing dudes to get away with stuff like Okay,
if you felt like this is a high standard and

(11:36):
whatever it is that he did, let's just say whatever
it is that he did, if it if it required
you to feel like you were going to discipline him
by holding him out for a series or two or
the first quarter, that's really no standard building to me.
That's not that's not a significant movement of we're disciplining you.

(12:02):
We're helping you to understand that this thing is which,
by the way, at the pro level, like what do
you mean You're like you don't need a father figure. Sorry,
I mean if if somebody becomes a father figure to
you at the league level, like that's that's interesting at
some point, grow the f up?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Is that a George Michael song? Father figure?

Speaker 5 (12:25):
It is?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I don't know, is it which apropriate? It wouldn't have
been the intro song that we listened to to the show.
I'll say that that wasn't George Michaels, and that wasn't father.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I mean, by the way, if the story is true,
he was just watching it, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
I mean, it's not like we don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
We don't know that because nobody's really putting it out there.
I mean, he put it out there if that, if
that's true, Now.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Does this impact his standing within Styck City or does
it give new meaning to that term.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I don't know what's true or what's not true, and
and and me and I do don't communicate. So so
I don't you know, I don't know what he's got
going on, you know, I don't know if he's okay.
I don't you know, I don't know what what he's
got going on. So I hope he's okay. I hope
he's being responsible. I hope that that report is not true.

(13:17):
I can say at the least, at the minimum, it
sounds as though the tardiness is true. And I would
say he knows better than that. Like most athletes that
have to make it through a successful campaign at the
college level, you know, one of the main things that
you have to always do and be is on time.

(13:41):
That's just not it's a non negotiable and I don't
know if times are changing, because I'm hearing more and
more about how guys are a little bit dismissive towards
being on time. But from what I can gather, you know,
that's still a standard, that's a very very respected standard.

(14:03):
It's a very very supported and you know, it's a
standard where there can be repercussions and consequences for not
being on time. You know, clocks were set ten minutes behind.
Ten minutes behind was on time. So fifteen minutes fifteen
minutes early, you're actually early ten minutes. And it was

(14:26):
like that with coach Kaflin in New York as well.
He had the clock set ten minutes earlier. So one
thing that I'm never in life at this point is late.
Like to this day, I'm just never late. I'll either
beat my alarm up or i'll do I'll do four
or five, you know, snooze alarms, whatever it may be.

(14:49):
But late, it's just not a part of what I
do on a daily basis. And I don't know where
these new school cats, you know, are getting that from.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's okay to be late, do you think, uh not
that it's an but part of it is they recognize. Look,
we already fired our coach, our defensive coordinator got clipped.
They're just trying to get through this year.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
But that that's a horrible show character. If that's the case,
that's because it's more about you. It's more about your
body of work. It's more about your reputation than it
is about there being a substitute teacher in the classroom.
Even though I was probably the worst behave people when
there was substitutes growing up, you were, I was.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I was like substitute. Yes, crumble up a piece of paper.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
I could see you getting after it.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I hit the nerd.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Now I hit the nerd closest to me upside the
head with that balled up piece of paper.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Damn, would you be doing what was alleged?

Speaker 3 (15:51):
You know?

Speaker 4 (15:52):
As far as.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Though I was in grade school, Q, I was in
grade school when this was going on.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, high school. I didn't care what. I don't care
the main teacher over there.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Maybe it was good housekeeping or you know, Trey secrets
back then.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Come on, man, you mean Playboy or Penthouse or something.
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know about that.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
The Penhouse always felt was better because it was more
graphic than Playboy.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, Playboy was tasteful.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
If you could, you could read alongside.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Of Yeah you could, you could, and they became celebrities
or were celebrities like this.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Was locker room talk. Yeah, well there you go, there
you go.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Well stupid, we're just trying to get to the bottom
of what happened here.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I don't know, I don't know, but I wonder what
were their subtitles? What what he was alleged looking at.
I mean, since we're getting into stories in Playboy, where
their subtitles?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
You know?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Was it in English? You know? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Now did he use your browser password or does he
have his own?

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Like I don't know what that is and I do
not have a password to it.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Spell it.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
And give you yours?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Spell it, give you yours.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
That when this subject took a turn, well, I just
you know, I want to throw a possibility out there.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Uh uh oh.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Look, these days, it's very.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Easy to be on your your X feed, right, and
you're not even necessarily looking, and some sometimes stuff just
pops up on your x feed and you know, you
don't have headphones in, and then the audio just starts
playing automatically and you're like, oh, geez.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Hey, that's a good one. That's a good one, Coop.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
But isn't that based on algorithm? Not necessarily, they kind
of know what you're peeking peeking around at, and they go,
you know, I mean, maybe you'll like this too.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Not necessarily, because what what will happen is they'll actually
put it in a post that's a normal post. You'll
see those those like schmuty things that that Coop threw
out there, you'll see them in regular posts like as
like paid advertisement type deals like placement, product placement, whatever.

(18:18):
I don't know, I know a geo fences, but that
doesn't I don't think it's based off of if you're
searching that. I think it's based off of like age, sex,
you know, stuff like that. You know, like, I mean,
I guess you would say what in twenty twenty five?
I mean I'm talking like male female male versus female.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
I mean, what are you talking about right now?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Did you hear what Coop just said? Yes?

Speaker 4 (18:46):
But like, how what does that do with geo fencing?

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Because you're you're advertising to a certain demographic of people,
so they they clearly whoever whatever porn Coop was seeing
on his ex was clearly him being geo fenced, like
they're they're they're advertising the Coop, they want Coop, and.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
It clearly went.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
I was just throwing out hypotheticals.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I don't know what that.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
You put yourself in the game. You gotta play. You
put yourself in, coach, put me in.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
You in the game.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Bruh, Well, I want to give you a chance to
offend yourself.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Coop.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
What is he talking about?

Speaker 5 (19:32):
I think I think he's he's just saying correctly that
you don't necessarily have to seek it out in order
for it to show up in your algorithm.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Give an example, what were you looking for and what
popped up instead?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Now you're scrolling? Yeah, exact exactly.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
So if I if I click on a picture of
Sidney Sweeney, then all of a sudden, I might scroll
a couple more, you know, a page down, and then
all of a sudden there's like yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
But it doesn't say that it's just somebody getting it
handed to them, Like it's just it's just there.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
And what's there?

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Yeah, Coop, what was it? What was you got busted for?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Dude? I didn't get busted for anything.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
This is a fairly hypothetical thing about what maybe happened
to Abduall Carter.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Frame take hammers.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
All right, well, listen, that'll wrap up our coverage of
Patriots Giants.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
By the way, the Patriots are a pretty good team,
even though I can't take too much away from them.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Playing against the Giants, but they're pretty.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
I'll just I'll blanketly asked that are we believers in
the Broncos and Patriots? Because those seem to be the
top two teams in the a f C And it
feels like the way the Broncos win, whether it's fourth
quarter comebacks or playing down to lesser opponents, and it
feels like when you look at the Patriots and kind

(20:59):
of their easy schedule and how bad outside of the
Bills the rest of the AFC East is we look
at those two and no one's really believe that they
can make.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
A run, Like do you believe.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I'm a believer in both?

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Because they both have defenses, they both they both have
very coherent and very very bright, amazing head coaches, and
and one of the teams has a quarterback that looks
like he's going to be a quarterback of the here

(21:34):
and now and the future Drake may is is he's
he's a ballplayer. Man, kid can play some ball.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Now.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
I don't know what happens with bo Nicks, and it
looks like Peyton believes in them and and he can
he does some good things at at times and maybe
more often than he doesn't. I would just say he's
a tad bit concerning He would be my question mark,
and maybe it's his youth, but it would be my

(22:03):
question mark for the Broncos is will they have good
enough quarterback play when they get to you know, the playoffs?
But am I a believer in what they're capable of
doing or what the possibilities of it is? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I believe in both teams at this point.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I believe in New England or in Denver. I just
Denver wins, I mean just weird ways bizarre and give
them credit for winning these games. But look the game
against the Giants they had no business winning. They probably
should have lost. The other night to Washington. I mean,
they struggled against you know, that team who's been banged
up all year. It just New England feels like you

(22:43):
can depend on that more to make a deeper run
than Denver. But I would take I don't think either
is going to make it out of the AFC. I mean,
I'll take my chances on a wildcard team this year.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
It's just I'm not a believer. I'm not a believer
in Jackson Dart's leather jacket that he wore into the
into the game.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
That was probably the last thing we should apologize for.
You know, upack, you're doing too much.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
There, up top, guys up top, up top, guys.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Up top.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Don't make a spring. Don't make us bring Caleb into this.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
He's yours.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's up top for you.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
No, he slid below the line of acceptance. No, that's
so please don't God, no, you too. Just take him, Dawn, Hey, No,
he's playing well enough right now. We'll claim him. Hey,

(23:46):
John Cy Bryan Clark's uh did John Cy Ryan Clark's
Coming to America jacket left?

Speaker 11 (23:56):
Good morning neighbors? You yes, yes, f you too.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Gotta be careful.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I don't want to come out. That's good fun, that
ain't that's not maliciousness. Well, I do know hit wear
a Joffy Joe fair jacket last night.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Though you can have some you can have some good
fun at home Depot. That's for sure, because you get
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you missed it coming up here in a little over
twelve minutes from now. Lane Kiffen was introduced in Baton
Rouge yesterday as the brand new head coach of LSU,
and he spoke about the opportunity to take over the Tigers.

Speaker 13 (26:56):
I'm very honored to be the head coach of LSU.
I can sum it up by saying this this place
is different and having watched this place for a long time,
having been on the other sidelines in the stadium, this
place is different, and that's why we're here. There's a
lot of work to do with that, but I'm very
grateful for the opportunity to lead one of the elite.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Programs in all of sports.

Speaker 13 (27:20):
This place is built for championships, with championship expectations. We
understand that, but as an elite competitor, that's.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Exactly what you want and that's why we're here.

Speaker 13 (27:31):
I know that we have with the passion of LSU
family and our LSU players that we have everything to
bring championship football back to LSU. It's time for LSU
to take its place back as the best program in
all of college football. And that's what we're here to do.
So thank you for believing in me. Let's go to

(27:51):
work and go Tigers.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I mean, the deal feels like it's getting sweeter and
sweeter too. There was the eye out numbers that were
out for Lane Kiffin. There was also this story that
ESPN had that apparently Lane Kiffin's going to receive the
same college football playoff bonus from LSU that he would

(28:14):
have if he had remained with ole Miss through the postseason.
It begins at one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for
the Rebels participation in a first round college football playoff game.
It increases to two hundred and fifty thousand for participation
in a quarterfinal, and tops out of a million dollars
if ole Miss wins the national championship, so he doesn't
even have to be there, and if they go on

(28:36):
a heater, he's going to get paid on top of
the thirteen million that he's getting a year.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
I mean, he got released. He didn't say I'm not coaching.
They told him to go, right, So that's that's. Uh,
you can't get from from under that, right Q. I
mean you're you're the one that the expert on the
legality of things. I mean, they can't get away from
that if they told him, if he said, I want

(29:04):
to continue to I want to finish out this year, but.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
He's getting that from LSU.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Is paying harder to buy out. Somebody had to do it, right.
Somebody was going to have to do.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
It because because you know, he wanted to stay and
coach there, which again just pointing out, you know, John
summerl if Tulane makes the playoff, will be coaching Tulane
through the playoff. Florida granted him that opportunity. Ole Miss
decided not to want to do that. Now, what's really interesting,

(29:38):
and I heard from a little bird yesterday and that
some of the staff that went with Lane maybe is
looking at going back to Old Miss. Now it's in
large part due to the fact that ole Miss will
be a playoff team. I think there was some concern
by the athletic director in ole Miss and maybe even

(29:58):
Pete Golding that they could get docked with tonight's college
fotball rankings because they don't have an offensive staff and
unless you're gonna rely on Joe Judge Right, the former
head coach for the New York Giants, to call plays,
which I think we remember how that all went.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
When they went up to New England with that Patricia.
That wasn't a good thing. If they're unless you rely
on him to call plays, you got to do something.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
So I would not be shocked if you don't hear
some news of some of the offensive staff going back
to coach these kids in the bowl game and then
from there, it'll be interesting to see if they stay
on or if they ended up going back to LSU
with Lane Kiffin because of how they feel in regards
to the players, the opportunity they have, and everything to

(30:45):
go along with it. Now, if you're Lane and you
know you've got those bonuses out there for you, if
ole Miss continues to have success, you'd have to think.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
That you're okay doing that.

Speaker 6 (30:59):
Like you might not able to go back and coach
because Ole Miss won't let you, but you'll gladly let
the rest of your staff go. If LSU is not
going to prohibit them from doing that. So there's a
lot of moving parts of all this. I mean, the
college football world's crazy. I think probably one of the
things that is most surprising from the Lanekiffin contract is

(31:21):
after the governor came out when they fired Brian Kelly
and said, we're never.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Going to do a contract. Lock this again, like the
whole you know accent.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
And all that.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
This deal is ninety one million dollars guaranteed and there
are no offsets, meaning if he goes to work elsewhere,
they own the entirety of that.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
So what you're saying is they didn't learn their lesson. Well, no, and.

Speaker 6 (31:46):
Even worse than that, even worse than that, your alma mater,
for example, did something that was you know, really important.
You know, they forced James Franklin to actively look now
that they have offsets, but actively look for another head
coaching job.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
There is none of that language in there. So he
if he gets fired in year one, we don't even
have to I mean, there's nothing he has to do
in order to turn that out.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
That's how desperate else you was. And that's when you
talk about like politics getting involved in things. Look, I
don't care which side of the aisle you're on, they're
all lie.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
So there you go with that.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
I just I look at the scenario and I'm like,
if this being the case that they're paying out Lane
for the playoff run, doesn't that tell you how much
LSU is valuing Lane Kiffin? Why would you not take
advantage of just keeping Lane there to finish out the season.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I'm still I know I have to live here. I
have to live here. Like what theft does that even mean? Bro?

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Like, don't think so highly of yourself that you make
decisions that impact other PEO people outside of yourself.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Lane Kiffin has led.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
This Old Miss team to being a formidable opponent and
could make a run. They're one of the teams that
has enough talent, enough speed, team speed, total team speed
and skill to be able. Now, can they win in
the trenches if they get deep into the playoffs against
a Big ten in Ohio State or a SEC team

(33:28):
like the Bulldogs, or even deal with what you know
Notre Dame brings to it. I don't know that they
can do it, but I damn sure. I am intrigued
the one to see it. I don't think it's the
same team without Lane Kiffin and honestly, since he has
to live with it, the ad who made the decision.
If I am, if I am the committee, I don't know.

(33:51):
And I said this before, and I'm a double down
on it. I don't know if I'm as bullish on
taking a team like Old Miss into the college football
playoff without Lane Kiffin being the head coach. I don't
think it makes sense.

Speaker 6 (34:10):
What if I'd told you that, you know, Charlie Weis
junior was calling the majority of the place, and if
he ended up being going back to call plays for
their playoff game.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I just think the confusion of it all.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
And when I say confusion, it's the idea that that
Lane Kiffin wanted to coach, but was not given the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
To coach the rest of the season.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
He rolls out anybody else, whether it's somebody who's been there,
somebody who hasn't been there, whatever it may be. I
think the confused state of what's going on with Ole
Miss right now drives down the value of what they
would be matchup wise and trying to create the most
you know, appealing brackets for college football playoff. I don't

(35:00):
think there is appealing wise or anyone who may return
back to coach. Outside of Lane Kiff and being a
part of.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
It, you don't think there would be people that would
want to watch them to root them on, Like, hey,
this team got ditched.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
You know, people that are going to have that feeling
towards them. But just I just I don't I don't
see that.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
I mean, people had that feeling for Florida's stay if
they can do it without their quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (35:30):
Well to that point, like Jordan Travis wasn't there, you
know that's gonna It's always a game of players, and
if there's not a player there, that's one thing. I mean,
not having a coach. I can see your point. But
if you've got the guy who's calling the plays there,
just not the figurehead of you know, head coach. Why
why do we have to penalize the players for that?

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Again, I look at it from the standpoint of the
fabric and the dynamic of a team. When people talk
what is the personality that a team takes on? Who
is the personality that.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Matters?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
I'm not understand the penalizing. I do understand the penalizing,
and that sucks that these kids have to be penalized
if that were indeed the reason.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
But for no reason at all. I'll say this, for
no moment at all.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
What I feel is though this is not I would
think it's a wise decision and that that's it's.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Horrible for the kids. But you know what, you learn
that in life everything isn't going to go.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
To what you wanted to go, and sometimes you got
to gut up and you got to understand that circumstances
may play a part in your successes, your your failures,
your wins, and your losses.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
I think that's all I'll say.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
This is about when Michigan didn't have their head coach
Jim Harbaugh and Sharon Moore took over you know during
that time and still went into Penn State and got
the road win.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
You know, did the same thing versus Ohio State. I
I know what this is about.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
This is yeah, all right, you love pulling lightning out
of a hat, Rocky.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
You are trying to make this case for a head
coach not being there yet.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
Here's an example. Jim Harbaugh wasn't there and I remember
that whole Fiasca. We kept thinking he was gonna walk
through the stadium and we're like what's Pat Craft gonna do.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
It's gonna let it be in the Pats, Like, I'm
not gonna do anything if he shows up.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
So how many how many games did they play with
with your own?

Speaker 6 (37:38):
They played three, but I mean it was at Penn State,
Maryland and the Ohio State and they were all tight games.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Those are big games, huge games, and ultimately led to
to show it. He got three games to prove it
he gets what the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yeah, he's been calling plays all year.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I ain't with it.

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Speaker 5 (39:11):
All right, so stop me if you've heard this before,
but apparently Eagles fans went a little bit overboard this
past weekend. They threw eggs at the offensive coordinator Kevin
Patullo's house and decided to record themselves doing it put
it on TikTok. Cops are investigating. Yeah, do you guys
ever have any issues with fans come showing up and

(39:33):
where you live?

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Well?

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Rival team, but the eggs didn't break. Silly silly gooses.
They as a big rivalry game against North Alleghany in
high school and they drove up on pulled up on
the crib through eggs and the eggs were all in
the in then the yard.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
So we're start out to the high school.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, so were they hard?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I mean that's the only time. I mean you asked me,
have I What was your question?

Speaker 8 (40:01):
Did you?

Speaker 12 (40:01):
What?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Have you?

Speaker 12 (40:02):
What?

Speaker 1 (40:03):
It's ever?

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Ever? Had that ever? There's the word right there, ever,
has it ever?

Speaker 12 (40:08):
Ever?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Doesn't ever include high school?

Speaker 4 (40:11):
I know, I just say it. We're like that, that's
borderline of finance.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Why is everybody he said, have you ever? That's ever?
High school counts with ever? Watching porn? Jesus, Oh my gosh,
you know what Jonas
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