January 21, 2026 • 40 mins
On this Wednesday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox & LaVar Arrington, recap John Harbaugh's introduction press conference for the Giants which showed a wrinkle in his partnership with GM Joe Schoen. Plus, the guys talk about Duke suing Darian Mensah, an early Heisman odds edition of ICYMI, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with he here. Coming
up on this Wednesday edition, We've got the introductory press
conference with the Giants, John Harbad, Joe Shane and things
are awkward. Speaking of awkward, apparently the NFC South is
going to get a little awkward. You've got Kevin Stefanski
and Baker Mayfield, a few that no one knew about.
(00:21):
We've got more details on the firing of Sean McDermott.
What about the Big Ten versus the SEC. Apparently things
have changed in the world of college football. Plus, we've
got another edition of In case you missed it. We've
got our Midweek Awards, and we've got Dean Blandino stopping by,
plus the leftovers. It's all yours coming up next here,
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on a Wednesday,
Fox Sports Radio. Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
(00:57):
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox of
the air. You can find this as always on the
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We appreciate you doing so, and we are going to
take you all the way up until nine am Eastern
time six o'clock Pacific owls. And we start with a
question for you. Have you ever wiped with a dry
(01:17):
piece of toilet paper and wondered, is this as good
as it gets? It's not. Haven't you switched to life
changing wet extra large flushable dude wipes because wetter just
cleans better of it? Amazon and at major retailers nationwide,
dude wipes you best clean pants down, pants down? Oh yeah,
wipe it wet. That's what I'm saying. Man, Why does it.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Sound so much different if you reversed, it doesn't even
really sound like anything like wet wipes. You grew up
on wet wipes, Like give me a wet wipe, you know,
for the baby, you know, for you know, like barbecue,
get a wet wipe.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But when you say white wet, yeah, sounds a little different.
A little lemon scented uh wet white packets you would
get it at a restaurant.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Back in the day. Yeah, a little yeah, a little dip.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
See this is how I know Jonahs doesn't use dude
wipes because they've got mint scented. They've got shade butter
as well, they've got uncented if you're into.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
That, So mint for you, booty booty man.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We should come out with like with do wipe collaborations
and call call it booty mints.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
So I'm saying booty make it better.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Not the direction I thought you were going there.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I feel like we should put it in quotes. We
should put it in quotes and call it booty mints.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Make it better. There you go right.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
There, man, I was. I was on board until that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh man, we showed like a little little content have
have Q throwing a spy row the.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Booty man thinking make sure you guys are covers.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, be for rony cowboy with his be Feroni ring
around his mouth and then he starts wiping his mouth.
Joan is sitting there with his pants around his ankles
like I need a boot he mint like, and then
he catches one from Q and I'm sitting there laughing
with it with the camera recording it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You know. So I think that'd be a great collaboration.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I don't know that just came right from the dome,
like y'all welcome my blessed y'all three four three oh four,
or if.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Bletched job man, except that John, you're blessed.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
With some brilliants.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Blessed up man, You've been blessed booty mints by two
pros and a cup of Joey Cooper.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
If you had a if you had a few dude wipes,
you might be able to get those air pods back
from that bone number.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And you would want to use a booty mint on
your AirPods. From what it sounded like from the story yesterday,
you know what I mean. I just don't understand how
Q knew that that's what it meant.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Key stirring?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I never I never heard of it. I'm so. I mean,
is that a cultural thing?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
It's a dublin thing.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
No, I've never heard a key string. I've never heard
the word in my life until yesterday.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And what it meant, Oh my god, what do you
mean that's what it means?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Ever heard of keystoring?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I don't know. It's just not something that came down
my lane. It's a cultural thing. I don't know it's
a cultural No, it's just a word.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Because only because the read because only white people have asked,
is it's a cultural thing.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I was actually gonna say it was. It was more
I think from a movie than anything else where. I
think I heard that from But who said it?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
That's what that means. Who said it?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I don't know, but it was in regards to like
someone going to jail or something like that.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So I was like, oh, okay, I like that word.
I think it's better than the way I said it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
What did you say?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know? I said it the more like formal way,
when I was like, oh, I bet he you know?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Oh yeah, right, So what kester?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Because I guess that I guess that.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Before you the more formal way.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That's what I'm saying. I like your way better. I'm
going to adopt your way because mine was to shove.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
The word keister likely comes from the German word keast,
which means box or chest.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Now you lost me on box or chess, But I
guess you're you're what is it you're inside of there,
the colon part of there or whatever.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
It entered English slang as a term for a burglar's
toolkit or suitcase before evolving to me in buttocks, possibly
by way of the rear trouser pocket.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh okay, so it is cultural all right, because okay trousers,
I mean the whole thing evolved from the German language, right.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Well, yeah, I mean I'm just saying like this.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I mean there's only white Germans, right, like they can't
have well, technically there are only white Germans.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
They could just be from a different place and claimed
Germany like all of us, right, like our our people
are from different places, but we call ourselves American.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Where the World Cup will throw you off.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
There you go, those rosters, it will throw you off
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I was watching watching the Italian team one time and
I'm like, wait, what stallions really?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
All right?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I guess, but I do know this, you know from keystering.
Oh no, let's see. Let's see how you do this
to another team that, uh, that spent a lot of
time on their keister, looking up at the standings and
wondering how do we get back to first place? The
New York Giants and for brand new head coach, and
that brand new head coach is John Harbaugh. Congratulations, he
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was introduced yesterday. Media was there. Everybody's really excited about
John Harbor. His arrival there with the New York Giants.
Now the interesting dynamic.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That it the interesting dynamic.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So you've got John Harbaugh who's the head coach, and
Joe Shane who's the GM. And John Harbaugh will report
directly to ownership and not to and not Joe Shane.
The GM and the Giants have never done that before,
but that apparently was the sticking point and why it
took a little bit longer for the deal to get finalized,
because that's how John Harbaugh had it in Baltimore, where
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he would report straight to Steve Bushatti and it wouldn't
be through the GM. And so there's this weird sort
of dynamic between the two. So we've got media both
John Harbaugh and Joe Shane's side of things when it
comes to this whole pecking order of who goes to
ownership and who's got the you know that whole Say,
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which one do you want to hear from first?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
All right?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Do you guys want to hear John Harbaugh spin on
it or Joe Shane spin off?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Let's go Joe Shang first.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
All right, So here was the Giants GM Joe Shane
talk talking about that dynamic.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I'm not worried about that.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Everywhere I've been.
Speaker 8 (07:59):
I've been leaking for twenty six years, So everywhere I've been,
the head coach and general manager work together. That's the
only way it's gonna work and get on the same page,
go through the process. Again, We've done it everywhere I've been,
so I'm not worried about it. Like you said, that's
just something on a piece of paper, doesn't matter. We
need to work together and we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Come to the you know, final conclusion, and.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
It's always going to be about what's best for the
New York Giants.
Speaker 8 (08:19):
So I have no problem with that, and you know,
I'm looking forward to working with it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
All right.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
So that's Joe Shane, the general manager of the Giants.
Here was John Harbaugh's spin on the whole. He gets
to report to ownership and not Joe Shane.
Speaker 9 (08:32):
A big change with your arrival is having the head
coach report directly to ownership.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Just curious, why was that something that was important to you?
Speaker 9 (08:37):
Well, you know, to me, it's really not that important
in the big picture and big scheme of things. I
think it's kind of over you know, overblown, just a
little bit in terms of how it works. But the
main thing is that it works, you know, and that
we work together. That's what matters. So that's kind of
what I was used to. And it felt like a
good way to kind of start off. And I think
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mister Marra was happy be about that. It seemed like
it made sense. And I'm just happy. But I don't
think it really matters. I think we're all going to
work together. And I promise you we all we all
we all report to the boss, right, and the boss
is is Ownership and John Marray is the is running
football operations here, and he's running it and and I'm
glad he is. And that's also all the families and
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everybody involved. That's what this that's what this lad, that's
word starts. And we respect that, right, Joe, Right, Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I'm convinced. I don't know about you, guys. I'm sold.
Not a big deal whatsoever. That that's why it took
so long to get the deal done. That's why it
was a sticking point. But no, him getting to report
to ownership not a big deal whatsoever. All Right, have
fun with that.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
So if you're John Harbaugh, it's it's what you've always
been accustomed to, which is different for more than how
the Giants have done it, and and so, look, is
there a reason why he probably had it that way,
why the Baltimore Ravens did it that way. Yeah, I've
kind of got my assumptions as to why that is.
And it's usually when let's just say we're all going
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into a business deal together, one of the first things
you always talk about in a business deals is what's
called an exit strategy.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
And you're really talking.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
About the end, whether things go good, things go bad,
You're talking about how it's gonna work out. So you
don't really allow emotions to get involved because you've already
got the strategy of what you talked about on the
way in. And that's in essence kind of what this is,
because it's not an issue ever when things are going well,
when your team's winning. You know, all the players that
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you're drafting or that you're signing as free agents, they
all look great, and the players that you coach develop
blah blah blah, they all look great.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Everyone's happy.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
No one ever is going to the owners or the
owners aren't coming to them, you know, trying to figure
out what's wrong.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
It's what you're losing.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
It's when you know, the crap hits the fan or
things aren't going well, and that's when you have these
sorts of complications.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
And the structure of this is really.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Set up so it's not going to be one voice
going to ownership that could be potentially hurting what the
coach is trying to do or trying to communicate. And
that's why the structure is set up the way it is,
so the owners will have to then sit back and go,
all right, is it John.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Or is it Joe? Like who's to blame for all this?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And I also think if Joe Shane was probably in
better footing with the Giants, this wouldn't have happened. They
would have said that any head coaching candidate. No, that's
not how we've done it. You know, we feel really
good about Joe and this is how we're.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Going to do it.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Like, if you know you have an issue with it,
go find someone else. But Joe Shane is is our guy.
Now he's their guy. I think they really like Joe,
but I also think there's a line drawn where they're saying, yeah,
you know, the ross's in a good spot, but Joe's
made some mistakes too, and we don't think we want
to give him all the control, So we want to
make sure we give John Harball the opportunity to be
able to speak directly to us, unabated by anyone else's
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potential messaging. That's how I would kind of view this,
because that's just that was kind of my experience going
for team to team to team has seen different structures
and how you see some of the worst organizations where
they've got guys on different pages and it feels like
the front office is working against the coaching staff.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's it's a terrible marriage. Their GM stank. He stinks,
and he hasn't been good. He's got a losing he's
got a losing record as a GM, and his tenure there,
his first year was his best year. I believe it's
been bad ever since. And his first year was bad
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and he's got what one playoff appearance. It's he's only
been a part of one coaching higher and one coaching fire.
But if I'm a coach and I have the type
of resume that John Harball has and has been a
part of an organization that is very comparable to the
New York Giants franchise, I would not want it to
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be any other way other than getting a new GM.
And Harball, I'm not gonna put words in his mouth,
probably wanted a new GM. Why would I want this GM?
You stink you've not been good and you've not done
anything that has change.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Can I ask this sure?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Can you really throw a win loss record on a GM?
I mean there, I mean, you could have the most
stacked roster and you could have a coach is extremely
inept and has nothing to.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Do with what you've done or what you've built or
given up.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Does the our only way I say in that case
you give a flyer to the GM is if the
ownership hired the coach. But if the GM was a
part of hiring the coach and they didn't come in together,
then well I'm putting that on the GM.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
They kind of did come in together.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Day Ball and Shane.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, well Shane hired him and fire through right, And
that's how the reports say it. I mean, you have
all the inside info you, I mean, you could give
me a different account of it.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Ultimately, Ultimately the Giants ownership that makes those decisions in
front office.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I mean he's a part of it, but like's if
he was like hey, you should fire him. It's like
they'd be like, Okay, we're going to talk about it.
We'll come back to you.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
My understanding of GMS if the GM is there and
he's not coming in with the coach, and generally even
if he comes in with the coach, more often than not,
you're hiring the GM before you hired a coach. That's
my That's that's just my knowledge of it. I mean not,
you know, I'm not an all knowing dude, so I
don't know if that's if that's all the way correct,
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but that's just how I know it. My point is
he's been a successful he's not been a successful GM
period Like that.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I'm trying to ask though, is what makes a successful
GM to you? Is it just a win, loss, reck
and the success of it, because that's what you're there for. Well, right,
But we would say that if you looked at the
Giants roster, like they've got a good defense, if you've
got good talent, right, they made moves to deal develop
a defensive front that's actually really good on at least
you know, i'd say I want four games this year.
(15:07):
Well again, so that's what I'm saying, is you you
based it off win loss record, Jonas, what do you
base it off.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Of a little of both. I think it's the roster construct,
and I think it's also the production on the field.
And you know, some of that is outside of his control.
If he drafts a player and the player can't stay
on the field, Like Cam Skataboo is a good draft pick,
Jackson Dard appears to be a good draft pick, couldn't
stay on the field, like, both had injury issues. Both
had injury concerns. Same thing with Daniel Jones, he had
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he had bright spots, but he couldn't stay on the field.
Where Joe Shane I think gets a lot of the
criticism for, and rightfully so is the Saquon Barkley stuff
and how that played out publicly, right, that's.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
What that doesn't help or that doesn't help, But that's
so I.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Think that's what I think he ultimately was a control of.
And ultimately, like if you want to point to like
one thing, you'd say, Okay, you know, Daniel Jones never
could really maximize what he did kind of his first
year and the hell things the health thing, but like
even even just his play, like and then he goes
somewhere else and has an incredible half the season for Indy.
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It's like, okay, like maybe there was something else going
on there you guys couldn't figure out. Or Saquon Barkley,
Like the one thing the ownershipacity to do is not
let him go to a division rival. He goes to
a division rival, has a career year, and wins a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Like.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Those are things that I think you hold Joe Shane
accountable for, Like that's what he's in charge of ultimately,
And those are the things that I think probably hurt
them the most. You know, I think maybe if there's
some other players that they've drafted, you feel like, hey,
they haven't really you know, been the guy that the
team was hoping for.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Those are things that I think fall on his play. Like,
I just I don't know how.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
You know, you can always expect the general manager who's
not making any schematic decisions, any decisions on who's start
and who's sitting all that stuff. I mean, you're making
all those things are tough to put on us. You're
making the decision of who's making those decisions. And I
and I ultimately feel like the examples that you gave
of Daniel Jones and of Saquon Barkley Land to the
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argument that I'm making is that he was the decision maker.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
The owner sat there on hard knocks on the camera
and said to this man, I'd have a hard time sleeping.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
If you let this man go.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, said repeat. That's what I'm telling you. The argument
that I'm making is based off of what y'all just said.
I wasn't even using Saquon and Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Y'all brought that up.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
And all I'm saying is is that clearly in that
segment of that show, it showed that Shane was making
the decisions.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
So they stink.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
And the bottom line is they haven't won. That they
have not won since he's been there. And the first
thing that they should have done is blown out when
Dave Ball got fired. The first thing they should have
done is fired the GM and start over with the GM.
It like I'm thinking about the whole Berry thing. It
or McDermott, and is it who's the GM in Buffalo
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Bean Bean? I'm looking at the reports on Bean and
and how that all like in the media is playing.
How much truth is there too? All of the details
that's being reported I don't know, but if you're telling me,
Bean was in like cahoots with with the owner and
he and Goola got irritated or bothered by the roster
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and and and you know, based upon McDermott having you know,
criticisms of the roster and and they're being holes and
that's why he ends up losing his job.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
That's on you, Bean, but it is that's on you
as the GM.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It is commonplace though that a GM does get a
second hire as coach, like Ryan Poles hired Matt Everflus
that didn't go well, and then he landed Ben Johnson
and then we see where that goes. Yeah, I and
I and also you know, in defense of you know,
everybody there with the leak neighbors another guy like you
can't I mean, I don't know how you can control
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that because he can't stay on the field.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
So well, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
And think about it, like he's he's electing some really
good players on their draft, Like he's got Cavon Tipeau,
he's got Evan Neal neighbors who looks like he's gonna
be a star when he is healthy. Uh, Deontay Banks
is a really good player, like there are some there
is good there, like it hasn't come with the wins
that I think again, you know, sitting there and saying
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like the results, when the coaches are the ones that
are ultimately there, it makes it really tough. I'm not
saying that he's not completely you know, involved in some
of that stuff, and I'm not saying that he should even.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
You know, not it should have been a clean board
for John Harbaugh.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I'm just saying, like, I don't know that I use
a win loss record as like the reason why I
would be upset with Joe Shane. Like I think you
look at he signed Darius Slayton, for example, to a
three year, thirty six million dollar.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Deal, kind of hefty.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I mean, Slatin's a good player, but like not maybe
up to that obviously. You know, we talked about Sai Kung,
we talked about Daniel Jones. You know, There's been probably
some others too when you look at it that you're
critical of.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I just I want to see what it looks like
with John Harball and how they continue to build, because
I do think Horball looked at this team and said
there's some assets there's some pieces there because he hadn't.
I mean, there's plenty of other places he maybe could
have went or could have gone to. And clearly he
wants to be on the Giants because of some of
what they have there.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
It's not like he was like, no, nuh, I'd actually
rather go to the Raiders, you know, I'd rather go
go coach that roster.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Up they if not won. That's the bottom line.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
And if I'm if, I'm harrball and I'm coming into
the situation, the common denominator is the GM and he's
still there. I'm his second higher. Great, it might go well, great,
but I don't want it being based off of him.
I want to talk to the ownership and I want
to I want it to be a very clear that
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whatever decisions are being made that I'm I'm in you know,
agreeance with, we're good, that I'm not in agreeance with.
It's on file. I want I want it on record
that I wasn't okay with this. Shouldn't it happen? But
it did, and that impacted the way that my performance
takes place. That's how I would be looking at it,
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And and it sounds as though that's how Harball is
looking at it. And if I can't get a new
if I can't get the GM in here that I
want to have, then this probably is the next best
thing to be able to have in my contract, is
that I don't have to answer to the GM.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I answered to the owner.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Ain't that right, Joe?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, he just wants to.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
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Speaker 3 (24:09):
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Speaker 1 (24:14):
Trying to show the show. Brolivar pulls a revolver out
of his front pocket and starts firing at It was
a forty four.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
It was not a revolver, Okay, yeah it was. Yeah,
it was one of them, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
So so that being said, uh, here we go again,
who's ready for more litigation? Potentially in the world of
college football.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
The national Championship just ended and now we've had lossuits.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, like you know, I silly me. I thought at
some point we're gonna be like, all right, so let's
take a look at next year's national championship odds, and
then uh now, Instead, the story was that Duke was
suing their quarterback Darien Mensa, saying that broke his contract
by trying to enter the transfer portal. And here we
(25:06):
go again, how's this gonna play out? Like, wasn't he
supposed to go to Miami or that was the conversations,
and now Duke's gonna like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Well, Duke believes he's signed a binding contractor a binding agreement.
And what's interesting about this is, like, what's the endgame
for Duke? So the guy doesn't want to be there
obviously if he's trying to get his name in the
portal just so he can go transfer to Miami for
a most likely more lucrative contract.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
And meanwhile, like they're gonna assume him so he can't leave.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Oh, so he's just gonna be staying at Duke discrumbled,
and you know, he doesn't want to be there, Like
it's just it's a system that clearly, you know, needs
some sort of power authority and not the legal system
to you know, go. I mean, obviously this is gonna
set a press in one way or another, you know,
because every school's trying to essentially do this, so they
(25:58):
make the players sign agreements that are actually binding, like
you would be if you're an employee.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
But that's the problem is none of.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
These schools want to admit these these players are employees.
So because of that, you know, there's there's no collective
bargaining agreement in place, and there's there's nothing that's been
discussed to hammer out these sorts of scenarios. And that's
where we sit. So we've got a school who's gonna
try to unforce it. They're going to assue them, A
judge is gonna make a ruling on it. Most likely
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we will rule in favor of the player based on
prior decisions, and he'll build eventually go to Miami.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
So that's that's my prediction prediction.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
But like LeVar happened to you, are you gonna be
happy if, like somehow he was had to stay at Duke.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
No, I'm not, And I think I think it's this
opens up the continued conversation of if if these schools
can't come together collectively and make it a point that
these these contracts are going to have that in there
(27:02):
and that everybody's going to enforce it. Those schools that
do that are not going to get the top players,
Like if it's Duke, and Duke is saying it, like
I have a lawyer looking at a representation looking at
this contract and it says that in the contract, I'm
redlining that you take it out, and if you don't
want to take it out, I'm not coming to your school.
(27:24):
Whether it be the portal or whether it be you
recruiting me out of high school, it doesn't matter if
you have this type of language in the contract. Which
now you would hope that this makes the families aware
of what they're signing, because I could guarantee you the
(27:44):
vast majority of these families probably aren't looking over the
print of these contracts that they're signing. And that's not
an indictment on the family. It's just never really been
a real reason to go through contracts. Your scholarship is
a contract. National Signing Day, you're signing a contract, and
(28:08):
I don't think that it's a It's a horrible thing
that families didn't get too crazy involved with understanding the
entirety of what a scholarship contract looks like. But now,
with the changing of times, it has to be addressed
and moving forward again. I feel like all this does
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and and and Duke being petty, you're not a football school.
Many did a good job this year, great, great job,
but you're not a football school. So if you're telling
me you think by doing this to a player, who
do you think you are?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Coach k right, you better take a good look at yourselves.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
You know, Elko did a good job when he was
there too. It's how I got the NM job.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Not a football school there may not be, but we
thought that about Indiana and look what they.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Were able to accompt.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Well, I mean, do it, and then we can and
we can have the discussion. That's I mean, that is
such an extreme example. But and for what is worth,
you're right, in the nil era of time.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
There's the possibility that a team, a school could become
a football school. Great, imagine a judgment looking over the
complaint like, wait, dude, this basketball or football? All kiss
throw this.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Out of here, get them out of here the next
next case.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Uh, But seriously, families are going to have to take
the time to look at what their their children are signing.
If you're an older dude, and maybe it's not really
about your family, you're moving, you're adulting. Now, you have
got to make sure you're taking the proper precautions to
protect yourself because in the end, if you have signed
(29:58):
a contract that b you legally, like Duke is saying,
you signed it and you don't get you really unless
the deal was done in deception and not done in
good faith, and and and you can prove that that
it was done that way, then you gotta you gotta conversation.
(30:19):
But if you signed that contract based off of the
information they gave you, and you signed it in good faith,
and they signed it in good faith feeling as though
you know this clause is in there, this this paragraph
is in there. But with that being said, we don't
even anticipate that being a part of it because you're here,
you're happy, we paid you, you signed, we want you.
(30:40):
Let's keep it moving. It's it's really going to have
to be a lot of conversations that happened very quickly
because this could this could run rampant. I mean it,
there's a lot of people going into that that portal,
a lot of people, so it has been.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
But Darien Mensa, I assume they're aware of all these
things because they've done it before.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Right.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
He started at Tulane, had a great year a couple
of years ago, and that's how he ended up at Duke,
and now he's being looked at again as one of
those potential top you know, quarterbacks. I love this kid's game,
by the way, I don't know that he gets enough
attention for what he is as you know, another year
in college, but then what he could be in the NFL. Like,
(31:24):
I really think this kid's got kind of the goods.
Now he's got a serious arm injury. I wonder, like
what language is in there about that now, or if
there is any. But then we're kind of venturing into
again contracts that you see at the NFL level where
they have offsets for prior injuries and things of that nature.
But as I've said before, like there's really no overseeing
(31:45):
governing body or collective bargain agreement to handle these sorts
of things. So I would imagine he most likely will
find his way into being able to go to Miami.
There really hasn't been anyone who's been able able to
block these players doing so. By the way, would you
have realized Duke over the last four years they've won
(32:05):
at least eight games. They've actually won nine and three
the last four. But uh, maybe they're transition there, maybe
they're next Indiana, who knows.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I don't care their they're basketball school.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And if they do what Indiana did, if they could
go to the extreme of being a team that's making
it into the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I mean they won the ACC this year. Yeah, and
technically by rule like they probably should have went.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
They weren't even in the playoff.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I know.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
That's a whole lot of a that's that's one of
the most extreme cases of outside like and I mean
Indiana is a great that's a great example, but they're
they've not Indiana has not been relevant in basketball for
quite some time. I mean, Duke has been relevant forever
and they continue to be relevant and they will always
(32:56):
be relevant even post coach k And that's just that's
a Duke in Kentucky, and Kentucky plays good football. They
play good football at Kentucky, but it's not a football school.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Obnoxious basketball Kentucky basketball, insufferable.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Fan base like and I am a fan so I
put myself as part of that.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
About what about those Kentucky football fans you know any
of those?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Any of those? Too many? Yeah? Too many?
Speaker 5 (33:25):
When's less time? By the way, that Duke won a
national championship, LeVar do you know?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
And basketball?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, I don't care, Cue, I could care lest two thousand,
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Thank you for participating, Jonas, not just saying things than
not having any cuts.
Speaker 13 (33:41):
I love.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I love to be able to throw type of team
of responses that youth.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
You already looking up? I saw you, I did. I'm
looking up. Actually Duke Football Americans, they've only had six
in the history of the program.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Kind of wild was a stink they've got I think
who so?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Jeremy Cash was a dB never heard in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
They've got one that you're like, Oh, I know who
that is.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Fred Crawford never heard of him, Clarkston Hines never heard
of them, Ernie Jackson never heard of him, Ace Parker
never heard of him. Lake and Tomlinson that's never heard
of him.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Who is he? What the lineman? Yeah, never heard of him.
Really good player twenty fourteen perfect, I was.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Like that was the most recent one.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
God By the way twenty fourteen is the last time
that Duke the twenty fourteen twenty fifteen season won a
national championship in basketball.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Hell yeah, I won the bracket challenge here at Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
That duke basketball. I heard of him. Know who they are? Yeah, yes,
Cooper fl know who he is. I know who he is.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Hell yeah, all right, I'm just saying it's basketball school, y'all.
Do all y'all want, y'all want to needle me. I
don't care do which I want? I could care less.
When they won a national title? Yes, shoot nasty or whatever. Yeah,
that's exactly what it is. See that right there. That's
what it says, is didas's basketball score man?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Ideas as that I did? Do it nice?
Speaker 5 (35:11):
D Yeah, they've done a good job. There were nine games,
are you know?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
They've been competitive and playing football good. ACC been competitive
good good and the ACC represent it, you know, and
in the national title this year, so that's not you
can't brush it off.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
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here's a game day tips. Since they weren't invited, why
don't you order a pizza?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Hup?
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Speaker 1 (36:52):
Good thing, the guys are here to bring you in
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Speaker 3 (37:01):
Patty eds O. God, there it is. Yeah, I gotta,
I gotta say it is.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I gotta say it's the frame.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You don't you don't actually have to, No, I no,
I don't, But now I want to know what we're about.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
An hour away from uh Country western SWEEKA. Oh god,
you don't. Don't put that in my head already.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I'm gonna.
Speaker 13 (37:31):
I will do my best, Brady, trust, but it is
now time for in case you missed it, time not
good bad, and the ugly that said, let's move it
on over. We got football and uh well, in case
you missed it or blank if you missed it here.
Travon Diggs was released by the Green Bay Packers after
you know he was released, you know, a month prior,
so that was a very short stay.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So what was your favorite Trevon Diggs highlight for this
time with the Packers? Would you guys say which one?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Do you think that one time when he turned around
and made sure Micah was okay when he was crutching
off after the game?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
How many games did he even get with them? One?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Two?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I think two? I think they or did they sign
him after the regular season. He might have had a
couple of snaps, maybe in the in the playoff game
against the Bears, but I don't think he Yeah, I
think about two if I'm not mistaken. And here's like
he got a deal, like the Cowboys signed him to
(38:33):
a deal and then he hurt his knee and they
got pissed because he rehabbed away from the facility and
that's where things went sideways, and Jerry Jones criticized him,
and then he ended up getting fined like two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars or five hundred thousand dollars something
like that, which they'd never done before because he didn't
show up for some of his bonuses to work out
(38:53):
of those.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Because he's homies with Micah. Oh yeah, wow, oh I
had to get some get back. Oh interesting, he's collateral
damage a d get him od at here.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Hey yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
And then Micah gets hurt, they bring him man, they
lose in the playoffs. It's like, why we bring you here?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Get him mad at here? Dang, that's how it happens.
You know what doesn't actually like that? That's a good theory.
Speaker 13 (39:21):
Me.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
If they're talking about getting the head coach out of here,
why are you carrying dead weight? He ain't put on
the uniform. Dang, damn. I've just said they probably think it.
I didn't. Now I feel That's about how I feel
about it.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
What else?
Speaker 13 (39:41):
All right, So we were talking about you know, college
going into twenty twenty six, maybe you know, looking ahead
to the season, favorite teams and whatnot. Well, I actually
have really really early Heisman Trophy odds. And why this
is a note because at the top of the list,
mister Braden's equin is C. J.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Carr, Notre dame special.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Let's go, he's a stud man.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
He's a stud obviously, that's just you know, expectations, but
that's because of what he did this year. You know,
there should be high expectations for him. I said before,
I think he'll end up being the number one overall pick.
So he's his film's awesome, and he's again wish they
could have been the playoff wasn't the case, but we'll
see a long time before.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
We actually played some real games.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, come on, ye yeah Jonas, Yeah, come on, come on.
What we are
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We appreciate you doing so, and we are going to
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time six o'clock Pacific owls. And we start with a
question for you. Have you ever wiped with a dry
(01:17):
piece of toilet paper and wondered, is this as good
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dude wipes you best clean pants down, pants down? Oh yeah,
wipe it wet. That's what I'm saying. Man, Why does it.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Sound so much different if you reversed, it doesn't even
really sound like anything like wet wipes. You grew up
on wet wipes, Like give me a wet wipe, you know,
for the baby, you know, for you know, like barbecue,
get a wet wipe.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But when you say white wet, yeah, sounds a little different.
A little lemon scented uh wet white packets you would
get it at a restaurant.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Back in the day. Yeah, a little yeah, a little dip.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
See this is how I know Jonahs doesn't use dude
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as well, they've got uncented if you're into.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
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Speaker 5 (02:19):
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Speaker 2 (02:20):
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and call call it booty mints.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
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Speaker 5 (02:33):
Not the direction I thought you were going there.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I feel like we should put it in quotes. We
should put it in quotes and call it booty mints.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Make it better. There you go right.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
There, man, I was. I was on board until that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh man, we showed like a little little content have
have Q throwing a spy row the.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Booty man thinking make sure you guys are covers.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, be for rony cowboy with his be Feroni ring
around his mouth and then he starts wiping his mouth.
Joan is sitting there with his pants around his ankles
like I need a boot he mint like, and then
he catches one from Q and I'm sitting there laughing
with it with the camera recording it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You know. So I think that'd be a great collaboration.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I don't know that just came right from the dome,
like y'all welcome my blessed y'all three four three oh four,
or if.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
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Speaker 3 (03:26):
With some brilliants.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
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pros and a cup of Joey Cooper.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
If you had a if you had a few dude wipes,
you might be able to get those air pods back
from that bone number.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And you would want to use a booty mint on
your AirPods. From what it sounded like from the story yesterday,
you know what I mean. I just don't understand how
Q knew that that's what it meant.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Key stirring?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I never I never heard of it. I'm so. I mean,
is that a cultural thing?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
It's a dublin thing.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
No, I've never heard a key string. I've never heard
the word in my life until yesterday.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And what it meant, Oh my god, what do you
mean that's what it means?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Ever heard of keystoring?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I don't know. It's just not something that came down
my lane. It's a cultural thing. I don't know it's
a cultural No, it's just a word.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Because only because the read because only white people have asked,
is it's a cultural thing.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I was actually gonna say it was. It was more
I think from a movie than anything else where. I
think I heard that from But who said it?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
That's what that means. Who said it?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I don't know, but it was in regards to like
someone going to jail or something like that.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So I was like, oh, okay, I like that word.
I think it's better than the way I said it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
What did you say?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know? I said it the more like formal way,
when I was like, oh, I bet he you know?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Oh yeah, right, So what kester?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Because I guess that I guess that.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Before you the more formal way.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That's what I'm saying. I like your way better. I'm
going to adopt your way because mine was to shove.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
The word keister likely comes from the German word keast,
which means box or chest.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Now you lost me on box or chess, But I
guess you're you're what is it you're inside of there,
the colon part of there or whatever.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
It entered English slang as a term for a burglar's
toolkit or suitcase before evolving to me in buttocks, possibly
by way of the rear trouser pocket.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh okay, so it is cultural all right, because okay trousers,
I mean the whole thing evolved from the German language, right.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Well, yeah, I mean I'm just saying like this.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I mean there's only white Germans, right, like they can't
have well, technically there are only white Germans.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
They could just be from a different place and claimed
Germany like all of us, right, like our our people
are from different places, but we call ourselves American.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Where the World Cup will throw you off.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
There you go, those rosters, it will throw you off
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I was watching watching the Italian team one time and
I'm like, wait, what stallions really?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
All right?
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I guess, but I do know this, you know from keystering.
Oh no, let's see. Let's see how you do this
to another team that, uh, that spent a lot of
time on their keister, looking up at the standings and
wondering how do we get back to first place? The
New York Giants and for brand new head coach, and
that brand new head coach is John Harbaugh. Congratulations, he
(06:48):
was introduced yesterday. Media was there. Everybody's really excited about
John Harbor. His arrival there with the New York Giants.
Now the interesting dynamic.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That it the interesting dynamic.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So you've got John Harbaugh who's the head coach, and
Joe Shane who's the GM. And John Harbaugh will report
directly to ownership and not to and not Joe Shane.
The GM and the Giants have never done that before,
but that apparently was the sticking point and why it
took a little bit longer for the deal to get finalized,
because that's how John Harbaugh had it in Baltimore, where
(07:24):
he would report straight to Steve Bushatti and it wouldn't
be through the GM. And so there's this weird sort
of dynamic between the two. So we've got media both
John Harbaugh and Joe Shane's side of things when it
comes to this whole pecking order of who goes to
ownership and who's got the you know that whole Say,
(07:46):
which one do you want to hear from first?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
All right?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Do you guys want to hear John Harbaugh spin on
it or Joe Shane spin off?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Let's go Joe Shang first.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
All right, So here was the Giants GM Joe Shane
talk talking about that dynamic.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I'm not worried about that.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Everywhere I've been.
Speaker 8 (07:59):
I've been leaking for twenty six years, So everywhere I've been,
the head coach and general manager work together. That's the
only way it's gonna work and get on the same page,
go through the process. Again, We've done it everywhere I've been,
so I'm not worried about it. Like you said, that's
just something on a piece of paper, doesn't matter. We
need to work together and we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Come to the you know, final conclusion, and.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
It's always going to be about what's best for the
New York Giants.
Speaker 8 (08:19):
So I have no problem with that, and you know,
I'm looking forward to working with it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
All right.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
So that's Joe Shane, the general manager of the Giants.
Here was John Harbaugh's spin on the whole. He gets
to report to ownership and not Joe Shane.
Speaker 9 (08:32):
A big change with your arrival is having the head
coach report directly to ownership.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Just curious, why was that something that was important to you?
Speaker 9 (08:37):
Well, you know, to me, it's really not that important
in the big picture and big scheme of things. I
think it's kind of over you know, overblown, just a
little bit in terms of how it works. But the
main thing is that it works, you know, and that
we work together. That's what matters. So that's kind of
what I was used to. And it felt like a
good way to kind of start off. And I think
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mister Marra was happy be about that. It seemed like
it made sense. And I'm just happy. But I don't
think it really matters. I think we're all going to
work together. And I promise you we all we all
we all report to the boss, right, and the boss
is is Ownership and John Marray is the is running
football operations here, and he's running it and and I'm
glad he is. And that's also all the families and
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everybody involved. That's what this that's what this lad, that's
word starts. And we respect that, right, Joe, Right, Joe.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I'm convinced. I don't know about you, guys. I'm sold.
Not a big deal whatsoever. That that's why it took
so long to get the deal done. That's why it
was a sticking point. But no, him getting to report
to ownership not a big deal whatsoever. All Right, have
fun with that.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
So if you're John Harbaugh, it's it's what you've always
been accustomed to, which is different for more than how
the Giants have done it, and and so, look, is
there a reason why he probably had it that way,
why the Baltimore Ravens did it that way. Yeah, I've
kind of got my assumptions as to why that is.
And it's usually when let's just say we're all going
(10:06):
into a business deal together, one of the first things
you always talk about in a business deals is what's
called an exit strategy.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
And you're really talking.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
About the end, whether things go good, things go bad,
You're talking about how it's gonna work out. So you
don't really allow emotions to get involved because you've already
got the strategy of what you talked about on the
way in. And that's in essence kind of what this is,
because it's not an issue ever when things are going well,
when your team's winning. You know, all the players that
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you're drafting or that you're signing as free agents, they
all look great, and the players that you coach develop
blah blah blah, they all look great.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Everyone's happy.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
No one ever is going to the owners or the
owners aren't coming to them, you know, trying to figure
out what's wrong.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
It's what you're losing.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
It's when you know, the crap hits the fan or
things aren't going well, and that's when you have these
sorts of complications.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
And the structure of this is really.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Set up so it's not going to be one voice
going to ownership that could be potentially hurting what the
coach is trying to do or trying to communicate. And
that's why the structure is set up the way it is,
so the owners will have to then sit back and go,
all right, is it John.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Or is it Joe? Like who's to blame for all this?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And I also think if Joe Shane was probably in
better footing with the Giants, this wouldn't have happened. They
would have said that any head coaching candidate. No, that's
not how we've done it. You know, we feel really
good about Joe and this is how we're.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Going to do it.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Like, if you know you have an issue with it,
go find someone else. But Joe Shane is is our guy.
Now he's their guy. I think they really like Joe,
but I also think there's a line drawn where they're saying, yeah,
you know, the ross's in a good spot, but Joe's
made some mistakes too, and we don't think we want
to give him all the control, So we want to
make sure we give John Harball the opportunity to be
able to speak directly to us, unabated by anyone else's
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potential messaging. That's how I would kind of view this,
because that's just that was kind of my experience going
for team to team to team has seen different structures
and how you see some of the worst organizations where
they've got guys on different pages and it feels like
the front office is working against the coaching staff.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's it's a terrible marriage. Their GM stank. He stinks,
and he hasn't been good. He's got a losing he's
got a losing record as a GM, and his tenure there,
his first year was his best year. I believe it's
been bad ever since. And his first year was bad
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and he's got what one playoff appearance. It's he's only
been a part of one coaching higher and one coaching fire.
But if I'm a coach and I have the type
of resume that John Harball has and has been a
part of an organization that is very comparable to the
New York Giants franchise, I would not want it to
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be any other way other than getting a new GM.
And Harball, I'm not gonna put words in his mouth,
probably wanted a new GM. Why would I want this GM?
You stink you've not been good and you've not done
anything that has change.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Can I ask this sure?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Can you really throw a win loss record on a GM?
I mean there, I mean, you could have the most
stacked roster and you could have a coach is extremely
inept and has nothing to.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Do with what you've done or what you've built or
given up.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Does the our only way I say in that case
you give a flyer to the GM is if the
ownership hired the coach. But if the GM was a
part of hiring the coach and they didn't come in together,
then well I'm putting that on the GM.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
They kind of did come in together.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Day Ball and Shane.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, well Shane hired him and fire through right, And
that's how the reports say it. I mean, you have
all the inside info you, I mean, you could give
me a different account of it.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Ultimately, Ultimately the Giants ownership that makes those decisions in
front office.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I mean he's a part of it, but like's if
he was like hey, you should fire him. It's like
they'd be like, Okay, we're going to talk about it.
We'll come back to you.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
My understanding of GMS if the GM is there and
he's not coming in with the coach, and generally even
if he comes in with the coach, more often than not,
you're hiring the GM before you hired a coach. That's
my That's that's just my knowledge of it. I mean not,
you know, I'm not an all knowing dude, so I
don't know if that's if that's all the way correct,
(14:37):
but that's just how I know it. My point is
he's been a successful he's not been a successful GM
period Like that.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I'm trying to ask though, is what makes a successful
GM to you? Is it just a win, loss, reck
and the success of it, because that's what you're there for. Well, right,
But we would say that if you looked at the
Giants roster, like they've got a good defense, if you've
got good talent, right, they made moves to deal develop
a defensive front that's actually really good on at least
you know, i'd say I want four games this year.
(15:07):
Well again, so that's what I'm saying, is you you
based it off win loss record, Jonas, what do you
base it off.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Of a little of both. I think it's the roster construct,
and I think it's also the production on the field.
And you know, some of that is outside of his control.
If he drafts a player and the player can't stay
on the field, Like Cam Skataboo is a good draft pick,
Jackson Dard appears to be a good draft pick, couldn't
stay on the field, like, both had injury issues. Both
had injury concerns. Same thing with Daniel Jones, he had
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he had bright spots, but he couldn't stay on the field.
Where Joe Shane I think gets a lot of the
criticism for, and rightfully so is the Saquon Barkley stuff
and how that played out publicly, right, that's.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
What that doesn't help or that doesn't help, But that's
so I.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Think that's what I think he ultimately was a control of.
And ultimately, like if you want to point to like
one thing, you'd say, Okay, you know, Daniel Jones never
could really maximize what he did kind of his first
year and the hell things the health thing, but like
even even just his play, like and then he goes
somewhere else and has an incredible half the season for Indy.
(16:09):
It's like, okay, like maybe there was something else going
on there you guys couldn't figure out. Or Saquon Barkley,
Like the one thing the ownershipacity to do is not
let him go to a division rival. He goes to
a division rival, has a career year, and wins a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Like.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Those are things that I think you hold Joe Shane
accountable for, Like that's what he's in charge of ultimately,
And those are the things that I think probably hurt
them the most. You know, I think maybe if there's
some other players that they've drafted, you feel like, hey,
they haven't really you know, been the guy that the
team was hoping for.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Those are things that I think fall on his play. Like,
I just I don't know how.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
You know, you can always expect the general manager who's
not making any schematic decisions, any decisions on who's start
and who's sitting all that stuff. I mean, you're making
all those things are tough to put on us. You're
making the decision of who's making those decisions. And I
and I ultimately feel like the examples that you gave
of Daniel Jones and of Saquon Barkley Land to the
(17:04):
argument that I'm making is that he was the decision maker.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
The owner sat there on hard knocks on the camera
and said to this man, I'd have a hard time sleeping.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
If you let this man go.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, said repeat. That's what I'm telling you. The argument
that I'm making is based off of what y'all just said.
I wasn't even using Saquon and Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Y'all brought that up.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
And all I'm saying is is that clearly in that
segment of that show, it showed that Shane was making
the decisions.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
So they stink.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
And the bottom line is they haven't won. That they
have not won since he's been there. And the first
thing that they should have done is blown out when
Dave Ball got fired. The first thing they should have
done is fired the GM and start over with the GM.
It like I'm thinking about the whole Berry thing. It
or McDermott, and is it who's the GM in Buffalo
(18:04):
Bean Bean? I'm looking at the reports on Bean and
and how that all like in the media is playing.
How much truth is there too? All of the details
that's being reported I don't know, but if you're telling me,
Bean was in like cahoots with with the owner and
he and Goola got irritated or bothered by the roster
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and and and you know, based upon McDermott having you know,
criticisms of the roster and and they're being holes and
that's why he ends up losing his job.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
That's on you, Bean, but it is that's on you
as the GM.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It is commonplace though that a GM does get a
second hire as coach, like Ryan Poles hired Matt Everflus
that didn't go well, and then he landed Ben Johnson
and then we see where that goes. Yeah, I and
I and also you know, in defense of you know,
everybody there with the leak neighbors another guy like you
can't I mean, I don't know how you can control
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that because he can't stay on the field.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
So well, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
And think about it, like he's he's electing some really
good players on their draft, Like he's got Cavon Tipeau,
he's got Evan Neal neighbors who looks like he's gonna
be a star when he is healthy. Uh, Deontay Banks
is a really good player, like there are some there
is good there, like it hasn't come with the wins
that I think again, you know, sitting there and saying
(19:31):
like the results, when the coaches are the ones that
are ultimately there, it makes it really tough. I'm not
saying that he's not completely you know, involved in some
of that stuff, and I'm not saying that he should even.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
You know, not it should have been a clean board
for John Harbaugh.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I'm just saying, like, I don't know that I use
a win loss record as like the reason why I
would be upset with Joe Shane. Like I think you
look at he signed Darius Slayton, for example, to a
three year, thirty six million dollar.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Deal, kind of hefty.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I mean, Slatin's a good player, but like not maybe
up to that obviously. You know, we talked about Sai Kung,
we talked about Daniel Jones. You know, There's been probably
some others too when you look at it that you're
critical of.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I just I want to see what it looks like
with John Harball and how they continue to build, because
I do think Horball looked at this team and said
there's some assets there's some pieces there because he hadn't.
I mean, there's plenty of other places he maybe could
have went or could have gone to. And clearly he
wants to be on the Giants because of some of
what they have there.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
It's not like he was like, no, nuh, I'd actually
rather go to the Raiders, you know, I'd rather go
go coach that roster.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Up they if not won. That's the bottom line.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
And if I'm if, I'm harrball and I'm coming into
the situation, the common denominator is the GM and he's
still there. I'm his second higher. Great, it might go well, great,
but I don't want it being based off of him.
I want to talk to the ownership and I want
to I want it to be a very clear that
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whatever decisions are being made that I'm I'm in you know,
agreeance with, we're good, that I'm not in agreeance with.
It's on file. I want I want it on record
that I wasn't okay with this. Shouldn't it happen? But
it did, and that impacted the way that my performance
takes place. That's how I would be looking at it,
(21:21):
And and it sounds as though that's how Harball is
looking at it. And if I can't get a new
if I can't get the GM in here that I
want to have, then this probably is the next best
thing to be able to have in my contract, is
that I don't have to answer to the GM.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I answered to the owner.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Ain't that right, Joe?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, he just wants to.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
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Speaker 3 (24:09):
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Trying to show the show. Brolivar pulls a revolver out
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Speaker 3 (24:23):
It was not a revolver, Okay, yeah it was. Yeah,
it was one of them, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
So so that being said, uh, here we go again,
who's ready for more litigation? Potentially in the world of
college football.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
The national Championship just ended and now we've had lossuits.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, like you know, I silly me. I thought at
some point we're gonna be like, all right, so let's
take a look at next year's national championship odds, and
then uh now, Instead, the story was that Duke was
suing their quarterback Darien Mensa, saying that broke his contract
by trying to enter the transfer portal. And here we
(25:06):
go again, how's this gonna play out? Like, wasn't he
supposed to go to Miami or that was the conversations,
and now Duke's gonna like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Well, Duke believes he's signed a binding contractor a binding agreement.
And what's interesting about this is, like, what's the endgame
for Duke? So the guy doesn't want to be there
obviously if he's trying to get his name in the
portal just so he can go transfer to Miami for
a most likely more lucrative contract.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
And meanwhile, like they're gonna assume him so he can't leave.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Oh, so he's just gonna be staying at Duke discrumbled,
and you know, he doesn't want to be there, Like
it's just it's a system that clearly, you know, needs
some sort of power authority and not the legal system
to you know, go. I mean, obviously this is gonna
set a press in one way or another, you know,
because every school's trying to essentially do this, so they
(25:58):
make the players sign agreements that are actually binding, like
you would be if you're an employee.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
But that's the problem is none of.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
These schools want to admit these these players are employees.
So because of that, you know, there's there's no collective
bargaining agreement in place, and there's there's nothing that's been
discussed to hammer out these sorts of scenarios. And that's
where we sit. So we've got a school who's gonna
try to unforce it. They're going to assue them, A
judge is gonna make a ruling on it. Most likely
(26:26):
we will rule in favor of the player based on
prior decisions, and he'll build eventually go to Miami.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
So that's that's my prediction prediction.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
But like LeVar happened to you, are you gonna be
happy if, like somehow he was had to stay at Duke.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
No, I'm not, And I think I think it's this
opens up the continued conversation of if if these schools
can't come together collectively and make it a point that
these these contracts are going to have that in there
(27:02):
and that everybody's going to enforce it. Those schools that
do that are not going to get the top players,
Like if it's Duke, and Duke is saying it, like
I have a lawyer looking at a representation looking at
this contract and it says that in the contract, I'm
redlining that you take it out, and if you don't
want to take it out, I'm not coming to your school.
(27:24):
Whether it be the portal or whether it be you
recruiting me out of high school, it doesn't matter if
you have this type of language in the contract. Which
now you would hope that this makes the families aware
of what they're signing, because I could guarantee you the
(27:44):
vast majority of these families probably aren't looking over the
print of these contracts that they're signing. And that's not
an indictment on the family. It's just never really been
a real reason to go through contracts. Your scholarship is
a contract. National Signing Day, you're signing a contract, and
(28:08):
I don't think that it's a It's a horrible thing
that families didn't get too crazy involved with understanding the
entirety of what a scholarship contract looks like. But now,
with the changing of times, it has to be addressed
and moving forward again. I feel like all this does
(28:29):
and and and Duke being petty, you're not a football school.
Many did a good job this year, great, great job,
but you're not a football school. So if you're telling
me you think by doing this to a player, who
do you think you are?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Coach k right, you better take a good look at yourselves.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
You know, Elko did a good job when he was
there too. It's how I got the NM job.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Not a football school there may not be, but we
thought that about Indiana and look what they.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Were able to accompt.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Well, I mean, do it, and then we can and
we can have the discussion. That's I mean, that is
such an extreme example. But and for what is worth,
you're right, in the nil era of time.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
There's the possibility that a team, a school could become
a football school. Great, imagine a judgment looking over the
complaint like, wait, dude, this basketball or football? All kiss
throw this.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Out of here, get them out of here the next
next case.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Uh, But seriously, families are going to have to take
the time to look at what their their children are signing.
If you're an older dude, and maybe it's not really
about your family, you're moving, you're adulting. Now, you have
got to make sure you're taking the proper precautions to
protect yourself because in the end, if you have signed
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a contract that b you legally, like Duke is saying,
you signed it and you don't get you really unless
the deal was done in deception and not done in
good faith, and and and you can prove that that
it was done that way, then you gotta you gotta conversation.
(30:19):
But if you signed that contract based off of the
information they gave you, and you signed it in good faith,
and they signed it in good faith feeling as though
you know this clause is in there, this this paragraph
is in there. But with that being said, we don't
even anticipate that being a part of it because you're here,
you're happy, we paid you, you signed, we want you.
(30:40):
Let's keep it moving. It's it's really going to have
to be a lot of conversations that happened very quickly
because this could this could run rampant. I mean it,
there's a lot of people going into that that portal,
a lot of people, so it has been.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
But Darien Mensa, I assume they're aware of all these
things because they've done it before.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Right.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
He started at Tulane, had a great year a couple
of years ago, and that's how he ended up at Duke,
and now he's being looked at again as one of
those potential top you know, quarterbacks. I love this kid's game,
by the way, I don't know that he gets enough
attention for what he is as you know, another year
in college, but then what he could be in the NFL. Like,
(31:24):
I really think this kid's got kind of the goods.
Now he's got a serious arm injury. I wonder, like
what language is in there about that now, or if
there is any. But then we're kind of venturing into
again contracts that you see at the NFL level where
they have offsets for prior injuries and things of that nature.
But as I've said before, like there's really no overseeing
(31:45):
governing body or collective bargain agreement to handle these sorts
of things. So I would imagine he most likely will
find his way into being able to go to Miami.
There really hasn't been anyone who's been able able to
block these players doing so. By the way, would you
have realized Duke over the last four years they've won
(32:05):
at least eight games. They've actually won nine and three
the last four. But uh, maybe they're transition there, maybe
they're next Indiana, who knows.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I don't care their they're basketball school.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And if they do what Indiana did, if they could
go to the extreme of being a team that's making
it into the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I mean they won the ACC this year. Yeah, and
technically by rule like they probably should have went.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
They weren't even in the playoff.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I know.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
That's a whole lot of a that's that's one of
the most extreme cases of outside like and I mean
Indiana is a great that's a great example, but they're
they've not Indiana has not been relevant in basketball for
quite some time. I mean, Duke has been relevant forever
and they continue to be relevant and they will always
(32:56):
be relevant even post coach k And that's just that's
a Duke in Kentucky, and Kentucky plays good football. They
play good football at Kentucky, but it's not a football school.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Obnoxious basketball Kentucky basketball, insufferable.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Fan base like and I am a fan so I
put myself as part of that.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
About what about those Kentucky football fans you know any
of those?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Any of those? Too many? Yeah? Too many?
Speaker 5 (33:25):
When's less time? By the way, that Duke won a
national championship, LeVar do you know?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
And basketball?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, I don't care, Cue, I could care lest two thousand,
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Thank you for participating, Jonas, not just saying things than
not having any cuts.
Speaker 13 (33:41):
I love.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I love to be able to throw type of team
of responses that youth.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
You already looking up? I saw you, I did. I'm
looking up. Actually Duke Football Americans, they've only had six
in the history of the program.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Kind of wild was a stink they've got I think
who so?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Jeremy Cash was a dB never heard in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
They've got one that you're like, Oh, I know who
that is.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Fred Crawford never heard of him, Clarkston Hines never heard
of them, Ernie Jackson never heard of him, Ace Parker
never heard of him. Lake and Tomlinson that's never heard
of him.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Who is he? What the lineman? Yeah, never heard of him.
Really good player twenty fourteen perfect, I was.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Like that was the most recent one.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
God By the way twenty fourteen is the last time
that Duke the twenty fourteen twenty fifteen season won a
national championship in basketball.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Hell yeah, I won the bracket challenge here at Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
That duke basketball. I heard of him. Know who they are? Yeah, yes,
Cooper fl know who he is. I know who he is.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Hell yeah, all right, I'm just saying it's basketball school, y'all.
Do all y'all want, y'all want to needle me. I
don't care do which I want? I could care less.
When they won a national title? Yes, shoot nasty or whatever. Yeah,
that's exactly what it is. See that right there. That's
what it says, is didas's basketball score man?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Ideas as that I did? Do it nice?
Speaker 5 (35:11):
D Yeah, they've done a good job. There were nine games,
are you know?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
They've been competitive and playing football good. ACC been competitive
good good and the ACC represent it, you know, and
in the national title this year, so that's not you
can't brush it off.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Good for them. Well, if y'all weren't invited, here's a game,
here's a game day tips. Since they weren't invited, why
don't you order a pizza?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Hup?
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Speaker 1 (36:52):
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Speaker 3 (37:01):
Patty eds O. God, there it is. Yeah, I gotta,
I gotta say it is.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I gotta say it's the frame.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You don't you don't actually have to, No, I no,
I don't, But now I want to know what we're about.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
An hour away from uh Country western SWEEKA. Oh god,
you don't. Don't put that in my head already.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I'm gonna.
Speaker 13 (37:31):
I will do my best, Brady, trust, but it is
now time for in case you missed it, time not
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on over. We got football and uh well, in case
you missed it or blank if you missed it here.
Travon Diggs was released by the Green Bay Packers after
you know he was released, you know, a month prior,
so that was a very short stay.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So what was your favorite Trevon Diggs highlight for this
time with the Packers? Would you guys say which one?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Do you think that one time when he turned around
and made sure Micah was okay when he was crutching
off after the game?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
How many games did he even get with them? One?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Two?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I think two? I think they or did they sign
him after the regular season. He might have had a
couple of snaps, maybe in the in the playoff game
against the Bears, but I don't think he Yeah, I
think about two if I'm not mistaken. And here's like
he got a deal, like the Cowboys signed him to
(38:33):
a deal and then he hurt his knee and they
got pissed because he rehabbed away from the facility and
that's where things went sideways, and Jerry Jones criticized him,
and then he ended up getting fined like two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars or five hundred thousand dollars something
like that, which they'd never done before because he didn't
show up for some of his bonuses to work out
(38:53):
of those.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Because he's homies with Micah. Oh yeah, wow, oh I
had to get some get back. Oh interesting, he's collateral
damage a d get him od at here.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Hey yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
And then Micah gets hurt, they bring him man, they
lose in the playoffs. It's like, why we bring you here?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Get him mad at here? Dang, that's how it happens.
You know what doesn't actually like that? That's a good theory.
Speaker 13 (39:21):
Me.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
If they're talking about getting the head coach out of here,
why are you carrying dead weight? He ain't put on
the uniform. Dang, damn. I've just said they probably think it.
I didn't. Now I feel That's about how I feel
about it.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
What else?
Speaker 13 (39:41):
All right, So we were talking about you know, college
going into twenty twenty six, maybe you know, looking ahead
to the season, favorite teams and whatnot. Well, I actually
have really really early Heisman Trophy odds. And why this
is a note because at the top of the list,
mister Braden's equin is C. J.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Carr, Notre dame special.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Let's go, he's a stud man.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
He's a stud obviously, that's just you know, expectations, but
that's because of what he did this year. You know,
there should be high expectations for him. I said before,
I think he'll end up being the number one overall pick.
So he's his film's awesome, and he's again wish they
could have been the playoff wasn't the case, but we'll
see a long time before.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
We actually played some real games.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, come on, ye yeah Jonas, Yeah, come on, come on.
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