January 22, 2026 • 41 mins
On this Thursday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox & LaVar Arrington, discuss Terry Pegula and the Bills recent presser regarding the firing of Sean McDermott and the drafting of Keon Coleman. Plus, the guys follow up on the Darian Mensah suing business, fun talks about yeast, a Joe Mixon edition of ICYMI, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady, Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Thursday edition, We've got football to discuss.
We're going to talk about the issues in Buffalo. Apparently
it's not all a Josh Allen problem. There are problems
at the top and they showed themselves yesterday. We're also
going to have a conversation about the latest drama in
the world of college sports football basketball. Some guys want
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to leave, others want to return. We will discuss. We
will also have a discussion about John Lynch in the
conspiracy theory surrounding the San Francisco forty nine ers, where
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the podcast, we appreciate you doing so. And Brady Quinn,
I don't know if you knew this or not. We
are sitting next to Steve Jobs and Elvis President.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, how about that? How about that?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Lover?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Lover and a creator.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
That's that's what my personality breakdown came back with.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
You didn't know that, did you? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
I just wondered, like am I a narciss city? So
I took one of those personality surveys yesterday.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
What does that entail?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Like?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Like what do you do this? Like? What do you
have to do?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It was like I looked it up and it's online.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
It was one like if you look up your love
language or your house of hufflepuff or something.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Like, it can help you to like figure out how
to improve your you know, like your daily movement, like
if you need more structure in your life or you know,
more of this less of that, you know, type.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Of deal and what to come back as I'm a
lover and a creator. Okay, yeah, I mean you've got
what how many kids? Five?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Five?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I would say that equates to a creator. I mean,
I agreed, but what to tell you that.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
The hardest thing I had to accept was the celebrity
comparisons like my what is it? My survey? My answers
aligned with Steve Jobs as the creator, which.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I'm okay with He's was he on the spectrum?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
And he might have been I might be on spectrum, bro,
And then uh and Elvis Presley as the lover I was.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I was like, I'm it couldn't have had some things
going on there. It couldn't have been Martin Luther the
King or you know, Malcolm the X. You know what
I mean?
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Like they they they put me on the opposite end,
you know, I was. I was going for, like, you know,
kind of civil rights leader or something to that effect.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, you know, the Donald.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Said it was it was. It was a booze hound
and a something else a lover.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Well, Steve Jobs was never formally diagnosed, many people and
experts do believe that he showed traits of being on
the autism spectrum and having aspergers.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Yeah, well there you go for maybe he was just
smart than man. I do feel like I'm alone sometimes.
I'll tell you that, that's why I stay to myself.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
You know. It feels like they're alone right now. Probably
Kean Coleman.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah, great, great, second, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I mean when you when your owner throws you under
the like that.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Hey, Kean, and we got a question for you. You
ever wiped the dry piece of toilet paint?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
He did yesterday? This is as good as it gets.
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Speaker 5 (04:21):
You can flush them, so he could.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Go right where to do wipe that he use. He
go right with it. Yeah, that was something yesterday.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Terry Poula, the owner of the Buffalo Bills and Brandon
Bean conference.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Before we play the sound, can I just throw this
out there? Are we to the point where we got
some of these owners that are getting so old You're like,
oh no, but have those senior moments.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
I feel like they're getting so old and times have
changed so much they're so disconnected from how soft this
this day and age is that they don't care more.
Most old hits don't care anyway. But now the politically
the being politically correct phase of of doing things with
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old hits, it's gone. It is gone. They don't even
care no more. Terry don't even care, Like, Hey, I'm
gonna shoot you straight. I own banguitting at all, and
y'all gonna stop ratting on my GM like.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That because that's my guy. Yeah, I could go kick
a rock.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
So much so he promoted him now. Yesterday, amongst a
bunch of questions about you know, Sean mcdermot's firing, et cetera,
et cetera, the question was posed to Brandon being about
the situation with Keon Coleman, who they drafted and it
just hasn't worked out. He was benched. There's been a
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lot of off the field stuff with him. He's not
showing up on time, so on and so forth. I
think there's been some fines that have been handed out
as well too, and so they've been asking, you know what,
what's really gone on with it? Your fingerprints are all
over this move in drafting Keon Coleman and then yes,
and then Terry Pegula decided, you know what, I don't
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need to use my blinker all merge right into this
lane and take this.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, rupt, I'll address the Keon situation. The coaching staff
pushed to draft Kon. I'm not saying Brandon wouldn't have
drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice. That was
Brandon being a team player and taking advice of his
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coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Who felt strongly about the player.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And he's taken, for some reason, heat over it and
not saying a word about it.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
But I'm here to tell you the true story.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Now there's a couple of problems with that true story,
all right. Number one, that player is still on your roster.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Didn't you didn't say?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Number two, there's audio and video at the combine of
Brandon Bean saying I'm glad Keon Coleman's forty was a
little bit disappointing because that way to help me draft him,
so clearly he wanted him.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Do we have the sound, pat?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Oh yeah, okay, thanks, Lauryn. Can just play it? I
just you got to contrast these two.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Basically, when I went to bed that night, I was like,
it's it's Keon unless someone just blows us away. We
didn't feel anything was attractive enough for us to pass
up on kyok.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
All things considerable things consider get the guy who's yeah,
so sposed to get this might be.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Obvious that so tomorrow who we pay, We're just going
to keep trading mounting.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
We're gonna get fourteen fifths barring someone offering us something,
they'll take Keo cooler Man.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, it's a little damning type in damning.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
They literally made a video about Brandon being making the selection.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, it's a little damn And you know what's crazy.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Chom was if y'all remember he was like the biggest
personality the media, sweetheart, the promotion, sweetheart commercial sweetheart going
into the season, like right after he got drafted, he.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Got he blew up super like was super popular.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Was in the media all the time, like people loved
him like they I mean, the perception of him was
his Q rating.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Was really I This just tells me how much Josh
Allen has covered up things in that organization that maybe
we weren't aware of. Because Terry Pakola sounds like Woody Johnson,
sound like the Jets don't talk.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
About my boy like that man. Hold on, now, don't
go that far. We all don't go that far.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
If you're a Jets fan, and you if you're a
Jets fan.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Oh look, I ain't gonna go in in the up around.
And hey, I heard Jonas was was going after me.
You ain't saying, well, I can't.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
If you ever wanted to make sure I covered off.
If you ever wondered as a Jets fan, what it
would be like playing the Bills twice a year to
have Josh Allen as your quarterback, Well, this is what
it's like like, this is what it would look like
if Josh Allen was your courter.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Well, you're in trouble unless it's the playoffs. Such a
bad look.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Well yeah, it's not only a what do they know
about that? It's a terrible look. And what makes things
worse is, like I was looking back on just like
what McDermott's done during his tenure there, I'm like, all right,
this is interesting. I mean, he's got the third highest
winning percentage of an active head coach. He only missed
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the playoffs once. We talked about this yesterday. Do you
know his winning percentage is fifteenth whole time amongst head
coaches in NFL history, Like he's been really really good.
They just haven't been able to kind of like crack
that seal. And I kind of go back to this
discussion we had yesterday because LeVar, you wanted to associate
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the record with the team, and it's you.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Love like trying to make sure that you prove what
I'd say is wrong. Guy, you no tell us what
you're thinking, Brady.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
What I'm saying. What I'm thinking is like McDermott, who
is directly associated with it, he gets clipped, and meanwhile,
then Brandon Bean gets credit for it. And meanwhile you've
got an owner who's sitting there like lamb basting the
fact that they took Keon Coleman because of the coaching staff. Meanwhile,
we've got evidence otherwise. I just looked and go like
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it's just it's always to me about the ability for
whoever gets that owner's ear. And there's other examples of
this within organizations where there's dysfunction, but someone's got the
rich guy's ear and somehow, even though again there's evidence otherwise,
he's like brainwashed or he's talked into thinking that like yo, no, no,
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I was shot mcdifference pick. Yeah, I wasn't. It wasn't Brandon's.
It's like, no, it was. It was Brandon's. That's his job.
That's exactly who's pick it was. And not only doesn't
not get fire you, it's promoted.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I don't know. I look at it and go, I
wonder if candidates who are now looking at that opening
Joe Brady who interviewed yesterday, and there'll be some others
as attractive as it is because of Josh Allen looking
at it and go, maybe there's a little more there.
To Jonas's point, maybe it's not as functional as as
we thought, just because their success and it kind of
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pairs similarly similarly to Pittsburgh in away right.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Oh, I was going to say in the hardball situation.
I mean, but yeah, Pittsburgh as well. And by the way,
I was on the throne using a dude like when
Brady shot the whole you know, the stray on me yesterday.
I I caught that friendly fire yesterday.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It was a catch. Mean, it was a catch. I
was like I was.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
It was booty minting myself when I got me, when
I caught me straight on a tangent.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
So I was texting with Blandino, and I said to him,
I go, I go, hey, by the way, I go,
you initially told me when they were up in Seattle
for the game that you thought it was a catch.
He said, yeah, I go, what happened when Tom looked
at it and tell you it wasn't a catch? So
you just changed your opinion? He goes, samn, he's He's like,
not quite. I go, okay, what was it? He goes,
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I just I don't know. I goes, I felt like
there's another angle of it. I said, okay, that's fair,
that's fine, But I go, that angle didn't really show
it from this cybery. It seems like there's more body control.
Whatever I was boo, that was. That was more than
just like I'm I'm Booty Minting and I get it.
I catch it straight from Brady it was a catch.
There's a different since I since.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I'm the only one, I'm the only one that said
it was a catch, by the way, so it's a
whole hold on. I'm okay with being wrong. I really am.
Like I had moved on from it.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
What I said to you, I.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Know that toilet caught what I threw I was one
hundred and four hundred.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I was one hundred.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Percent completely touchdown, touchdown, touchdown again, Like.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
My whole thing was whatever they called in the field
was what it was going to be. That was that
was ultimate I kind of felt about that play, and
I agree with that one hundred.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I agree with that because ultimately, in my estimation, it
ultimately comes down to a judgment call in that moment
because your reasoning wasn't wrong, well it was.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I don't think that your reasoning was.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Incouraged judgment call that got Sean mcdermy fired. I mean,
if you would have looked back on it, like if
the Bills win that game, I don't know that he's
getting fired.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
And I don't disagree with that, but I will say
that now listening to the way Terry is discussing like
he's in defense mode, it sounds like they're in defense mode.
And in Buffalo, maybe again you guys said it yesterday,
maybe the hat writing was on the wall, you know,
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and maybe it was super Bowl or bust, which I
thought this year for Buffalo was super Bowl or bus.
And then once we got closer to the playoffs and
you saw how things were were kind of shaping up.
At one hundred percent went up that it should be
a super Bowl or bus year for Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
No reason.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
You can't give a real reason as to why a
Josh Allen led team wouldn't be in pole position to
get the super Bowl this season this year, So I
don't Maybe he does save his job, but if we're
going base it off of a play, it's hard for
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me to accept that a play was the reason why
that man lost his job, which it has happened. I mean,
it's not like it's not something that's happened in the past.
But I just find that one hard.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Terry Pegoula did address why Sean McDermott was fired, He'd
like to push back on that notion that it was
about a bad call in a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I did not fire a coach based on a bad
officiating decision. If I can take you into that locker room,
I felt like we hit the proverbial playoff.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Wall year after year.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Thirteen seconds, miss field goals, the catch. I just sensed
in that locker room, like, where do we go from here?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Is its super Bowl or bust? Because in twenty twenty six, No.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
We can't.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
We can't say that to somebody coming in. We were
making a change, and you know, it's do your best job.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Good isn't good enough anymore. I mean, I think we
all know that. The I mean the clarity of that,
and I'll let y'all I have a baseball good isn't
good enough anymore.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
But baseball used to be you hit singles, doubles, get
on base, you get the runner home. It's home runs
or strikeouts. That's why even baseball has become Yeah, so
you can't convince me that whoever gets the head coaching job,
especially if they don't make the playoffs. You know, think
Terry Boogol is gonna be like, oh, well, this doesn't
feel good. This feels like a step back. Yeah, dude, Yeah,
(16:32):
like you got took for granted the fact that you're
in the playoffs every year when mcdermo's there, just because
you're gonna get to a super Bowl. Here's what I
think there's an element of here, and people may take
an issue with this. I'm just gonna say it, Okay,
it takes some luck. I think there's a lot of
successful people out there who believe that what they've done
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to get where they're at is all things they've done.
It's hard work, it's dedication, sacrifice, blah blah blah, it's talent.
It's a little luck too. If we're being honest with
like about a lot of it, it's it's probably more
luck than people like to actually like to admit, you
got a call that went your way, your team stayed healthy.
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You know, there's other things that play a factor into that.
But the truth is, like luck plays a much bigger
role in all of us. Do you not think the
Denver broncos I want to sitting there going, dang, dude,
how unlucky are we that? Like boat Nicks after playing
a great game and the second to last play it
breaks his ankle out of there the war Like, you
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get to this point here and you basically have the
dude who hopes to win the game breaks his ankle.
Now you get a backup. Playing the AFC Championship game
like that is not anything other than just sheer luck.
Either have it or you don't. And for those teams
that have had in this special season, you could look
back on a lot of different moments, plenty of moments
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and say, yeah, there's some luck involved. And by the way,
that's okay, like people act like it discredits people's accomplishments.
Like you read through things about these titans who build
up different industries Bill Gates. Go look at where Bill
Gates was born and when he was born. If he
wasn't in that exact scenario, probably doesn't make Sun Microsystems,
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which eventually becomes Microsoft, and he eventually becomes this billionaire
one of the most powerful men in the world because
of where he grew up, the resources that he had,
the access to what he had at that time. If
he was born sooner, wouldn't have had access to it
at that moment. If he was born somewhere else, probably
wouldn't have had a computer system one of the first
ever to go to when he was in Seattle. There's
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all sorts of examples of this like throughout time and life,
but we tend to just be like.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, no, it was me, it was this, it was that,
and that was no, it.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Wasn't dude, Like the part of it was just sheer luck.
And I feel like there's a little bit of a
little bit of that at play here where if you
look at just the unluckiness of even Buffalo and the
call that took place if that calls a catch, they
win the game. So I don't know, man, I just
I've listened to all this stuff from Terpagol and I
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By the way, there's a good clamshowder in San Francisco.
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Were out there?
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I just had some clam chower or yesterday, did you
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Like the clam wasn't even removed from the clam shell.
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Why do you guys act like you like clam chowder?
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I don't trust jonas being honest about this.
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I like clam chowder. Actually.
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Was like a h it does it does? It does
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It's called like I thought you said something else, whoa.
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No, no, no poutinees what goes over like fries.
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I like my version of what I thought it was.
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Is poutine a Canadian French thing.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I think it's a French thing. I'll double check because
didn't they have it?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, but New Orleans has French influence.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
That's why they called him. I think it's a French
so good. I mean, there's the French in Canada and
he was always tasting the poutine. Yeah by the way. Yeah,
so it's there's problems, man.
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There's a first meet in Quebec, Montreal like the Bacon baby.
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Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (23:39):
Why are you saying we acting? Why can't we like
clam chowder?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Because the way the way you're saying it right now,
and now he's throwing in sour dough and there's a
whole yeast thing. I mean, we got, I mean, here's
the thing. Is Larina against sour. She knows what I'm
talking about. See she's laughing because the whole starter yeeze thing.
I just you guys are off, yes, yes, problems.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Man, So you're heading down the lane of infections.
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Like I'm actually being honest about how you make sourdo
bread at the moment, and like you guys are twisting
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Oh my gosh, just just jerk that wheel into the gutter. Yeah,
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Look man, hey, you got you got to go through
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Speaker 4 (24:42):
Oh man, Okay, all.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
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Speaker 5 (24:45):
I'm mean out and leave it up to Jonas to
get one awkward moment to ruin the whole bit what.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
He always he always acts like he's not a part of.
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Little He's so good to get to the dough mess.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You how many guys are driving around going Yeah, he's right, Jonas.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Ain't lying, Yes, tell him truth this morning, keep it real,
all right?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
So what's the latest on this, uh Darien Mensa crap?
Is he gonna be able to transfer and get to
Miami or is this gonna be uh?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Are we gonna play this whole thing like he's still
in the yeast of it?
Speaker 5 (25:29):
What's I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
You know, LeVar, The yeast you could do is is
have a real conversation here.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Well, who's gonna have an explanation for it?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
All right?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So, so so what do we got here on on
Darien Mensa.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
He's been uh, he's been deemed to enter the transfer portal. However,
he cannot enroll or play football at another school right
now until a judge rules on Duke's request for an
injunction that would prevent him from leaving Duke. So that's
where we are at at this point. I believe he's
entered the transfer portal with a do not contact designation
(26:16):
For those of you that don't understand what that means. Typically,
when a player enters the transfer portal, they enter and
if their contact information goes out, teams can start contacting them.
But some connection with it do not contact. And if
you ever thought that there wasn't tampering going on, this
is a surefire sign that there is, because why would
(26:38):
you enter into to transfer another school, then tell them
that everyone that no one can contact you, especially if
you just entered, like, how would you know? You haven't
talked to enough teams out there. But usually this means
that there's already been a team that he has selected.
How that came about? Not sure? Luck? Okay, not lucky.
Like the other thing, there was probably at ye stick
(27:00):
conversation that.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
It was that whole It was a hug, them hugs
and them embraces. There they gotta go. You'll never see
them after the games anymore. If I like, sportsmanship is done,
postgame sportsmanship, pregame sportsmanship done. You can't talk to your friend.
(27:27):
I know y'all went to high school together. You can't
talk to them if y'all want to do it on
your own time. Y'all want to be on cell phones
and stuff like that, we can't stop that. But on
this field, ain't no shaking hands, ain't no hugs, warm embraces,
because everybody's recruiting. Everybody's recruiting. Bro I've seen it with
my own two eyes, and it's wild. It's wild, how
(27:50):
how blatant it is too. Wasn't didn't Lincoln Riley get
accused of that? Wasn't he doing something postgames.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
With somebody offered a player a million dollars what a
sport which didn't end up happening, and I don't know,
might have helped him in a specific game that he
no longer has to play anymore. I think what's interesting
about this is it's going to as we I always
like to say, from a legal perspective, it's going to
(28:16):
set a present in one way or another. And we
keep looking for Congress to get involved to create antitrust
protections for some of these universities so they can have
some sort of enforceable rules, since a collective bargain agreement
doesn't seem like it's anywhere close to happening. If that's
(28:37):
the case, I just I look at it. I said,
I feel bad in a way for the players, only
because you know he's going to be subject to a
lot of scrutiny, and when he gets to Miami, the
expectations are high, which I think he realizes that.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
But.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
It's the system that's been set up and that they're
living in, it's not the one that they choose. Like,
this isn't how Darien Mensa would like to handle this.
But if you don't think that, you wouldn't want to
go to another school that you feel like has a
better chance of winning a national championship, is going to
compensate you more for what you do, You're out of
(29:11):
your damn mind, Like, don't be critical of these kids.
You don't know their background. You don't know what the
shelf life is for how long they're going to be
able to play. He's had a serious arm injury. Like
there's elements too, like how teams will view him once
he gets to the combine and he eventually goes on
in the NFL level in the draft. I don't know
what that means for his career, but I'm surely not
(29:34):
going to judge him for probably taking the advice of
those advising him, which is a whole separate issue, for
trying to, you know, find a place that's going to
pay him more and let him go try to win
a national championship. I know it looks and maybe sounds
wrong in some ways, but it's the nature of where
we're at in college football. Crazy.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Once again, we're to a place where all the information
that's available Villa and I, this is the athlete.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
We're not We're not saying, hey, dude, just let the kid.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
If the kid doesn't want to be there anymore, lick
your wombs, take your lumps, move on. You're an amazing
traditional university higher like super higher level of education learning
institution at Duke.
Speaker 9 (30:26):
Like.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Relax, it's one person, it's one player. Okay, you don't
want them there. You feel slighted. Oh you know what,
some type of compensation.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
But injunctions that he can't leave, you're not allowed to leave,
You're gonna play here or you're not playing anywhere. Someone
needs to have their ass whipped over this. That is
a college hold on, hold on student athlete. If he
(31:03):
wants to go somewhere else and utilize the portal, even
if your contract says what it says, just negotiate the severance,
negotiate the parting of ways. I have no problem if
the conversations when I heard the Georgia lawsuit. I thought
(31:24):
it was egregious to say he has to pay back
moneies that haven't been paid to him. But in a way,
if you think about it, if the kid is leaving
to go get more money somewhere else, if that is
indeed what it is that they're leaving for, and it's
not just because well, for me, I can go here
and have a chance to win a national title, whatever
it is. But Georgia does give you a chance to
(31:44):
win a national title.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
So maybe you can't use that as an excuse.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
But if for some reason you're leaving because you're getting
more money, I can understand Georgia is saying, well, we
want to be compensated because basically you.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Used us to be able to get that.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
But if you're telling me, and this is what sounds like,
correct me if I'm wrong, Duke is like, we don't
want you leaving and we don't want you playing if
you're not doing it at Duke, that's wrong. That's that's wrong, man.
That's take take a take a buyout agreement, whatever it
(32:22):
may be. Maybe that's where college football is heading. If
you go into the transfer portal and you're one of
these high end because we're really talking about a top
what one percent, it probably won't go out one percent
of the athletes I had this type of command anyway,
still a buy out.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You know what's interesting, Jonas, I know you don't follow
English Premier League soccer, but you said yesterday it's not true. Well, okay,
and maybe it's not to I never hear you talk
about it leads what some some teams like you can
loan out players right like you can. There's different mechanisms
that are in place that are in professional leagues elsewhere,
(33:02):
and I wish college football would look at that because
I do feel like there's a model that could help
support all of this, and the EPL model with the
lower tier leagues two would make a lot of sense
for college football. It would reward those programs that maybe
aren't viewed as blue blood, that don't have as much
cash and so forth for their success and allow them
(33:25):
to get promoted. And it would relegate programs that I
mean not trying to hate on Rutgers, just saying I
haven't really played much of a factor in a lot
of I mean, you could pick your school that hasn't
really been able to hold up. It's part of the
bill in some of these bigger conferences, and if they
get relegated down, so be it. They have the opportunity
to get promoted back up. But to me, that would
(33:48):
be a much better model for college football. And I've
always said just from my time going over there to
watch those games, that is the closest thing in America
to what they experience. It's there as far as the culture,
the fandom, the fanatics that are around the game, and really,
quite frankly like the way this is set up. It
(34:09):
would be the easiest way to handle situations like this.
It really would. We don't have enough time. We got
to hit the break. But I'm just saying I wish
someone would take a deeper dive and look at saying
maybe this is something we could We should have an
American sports there's some sort of promotion relegation model, because
we don't have it right now.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
When they bring you on, just make sure I'm with you.
I'm with you, you know. That's that's all I said.
Just make sure I'm like your special partner. Can't counsel,
you know, because we can go through the yeast to
get to the dough together and this just let me.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Know, speaking of lead, sure did get full of that
yeast over the weekend. Huhuang talking about this right, No
le me look it up wi Fi.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
This is a great goal. It's so silly, bro.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It is.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
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Speaker 10 (36:48):
Yeah, let's let's get in case you missed it, because
that that that fell, that's time. In case you missed
the time, guys, well, I have a first one here.
So Joe Mixon. We all know he's been out for
what's felt like years, it's really been one, but he
had that freak injury. Well, Nick Cassario, the gem of
the Texans, actually she had somewhat of somewhat honestly we
(37:11):
have a sound for it, and I give a listen here.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
You guys don't want to disclose it to a reason
why we can't just have what happened.
Speaker 11 (37:17):
Yeah, No, I would say he didn't do anything off
the field. It wasn't like he was riding like a
snowmobile or anything like that. I'd say it was just
more of a medical condition or situation that just we
never it really didn't improve, maybe as much as everybody
would have hoped. I mean, I'm not trying to like
evade the question. I think that's the reality of the situation.
So like he didn't jump off a building, like he
(37:38):
wasn't cliff diving or anything like that. He wasn't doing
anything irresponsible. It was just it was a freak thing anesto.
I've never seen it, you know, just the condition.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Hope that situation will improve.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Before next time.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
We'll see.
Speaker 11 (37:49):
I mean, I believe me, I'm not smart enough to
be a doctor, so I mean I'll leave that up
to the medical experts. And you know, once we going
back to some of your other questions, we get a
little bit more clarity, more information, then we'll kind of
see where we are moving forward.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
What happened. I mean, Jonas, you made a pretty ridiculous allegation. Okay,
you did, and I think he just cleared that up.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
But well, I mean, there's just been some speculation online
that Joe Mixon shot himself.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
That was a rumor online. Well you can't say you've
never seen that before. My homie covered that off.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Oh come on, well, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Being honest, like that's man, we can be real here,
we can be honest.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Like that's that's been done before. That's not unique, like
shot himself on purpose? Not on purpose? What would shoot
themselves on purpose? What? Many people? Doesn't work that way?
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (38:45):
Actually, yeah, no, Lorrena doesn't work that way.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
It was accidental.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
I don't really think anybody who's playing in the NFL
would want to purposely bust a cap in their own ass,
like damn, yeah, dang, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
But that would be interesting.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
He didn't mentioned gunshot, He mentioned jumping off of a building.
He meant, mentioned snow mobile.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
He did not mention.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
He said it was nothing irresponsible. Wouldn't that fall into
that category? Yeah? I would?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Okay, how does a rumor like that get started?
Speaker 4 (39:20):
You and people are like, oh, I heard this Judas
Knox guys say this.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Hey, Joe Mixon, if you're listening, man, I did not
start that rumor. I simply you just did. I simply
just did tell. And actually, if you want to get
credit where credit is.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Deserved, don't come out way because you're known to try
to throw something right in front of me.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Don't know, okay, okay, good.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I was listening up on Game last night, bro knows.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I read it on OutKick. Listen, you know you'll listen
to ourself. I was, uh.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
I read it on OutKick that they that there's been
some some rumors that have been flowed out of there.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I was unaware of it.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I just know that he had some issue that popped
up in July and it was like, well, he's going
to start the season on the pup list and that
was that and they really could have used.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Him this year.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
By the way, he's no doctor and he doesn't want
to disclose what it is. And it wasn't irresponsible. Why
can't you like when Eric Barry went out because he
was fighting cancer, like you talk about it, if it's
a condition, why can't you just it's like explain it
to a certain degree that it's a medical condition that
(40:40):
respect the privacy of him and his family. Like why
can't you do it that way? Like why does it
have to be so cryptic? I just I don't know, man,
I don't know. Seems strange to me. Yeah, just say
what the east on the leg? Man, east on the
leg and now he can't run as well.
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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I don't know if you knew this or not. We
are sitting next to Steve Jobs and Elvis President.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, how about that? How about that?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Lover?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Lover and a creator.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
That's that's what my personality breakdown came back with.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
You didn't know that, did you? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
I just wondered, like am I a narciss city? So
I took one of those personality surveys yesterday.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
What does that entail?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Like?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Like what do you do this? Like? What do you
have to do?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It was like I looked it up and it's online.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
It was one like if you look up your love
language or your house of hufflepuff or something.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Like, it can help you to like figure out how
to improve your you know, like your daily movement, like
if you need more structure in your life or you know,
more of this less of that, you know, type.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Of deal and what to come back as I'm a
lover and a creator. Okay, yeah, I mean you've got
what how many kids? Five?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Five?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I would say that equates to a creator. I mean,
I agreed, but what to tell you that.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
The hardest thing I had to accept was the celebrity
comparisons like my what is it? My survey? My answers
aligned with Steve Jobs as the creator, which.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I'm okay with He's was he on the spectrum?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
And he might have been I might be on spectrum, bro,
And then uh and Elvis Presley as the lover I was.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I was like, I'm it couldn't have had some things
going on there. It couldn't have been Martin Luther the
King or you know, Malcolm the X. You know what
I mean?
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Like they they they put me on the opposite end,
you know, I was. I was going for, like, you know,
kind of civil rights leader or something to that effect.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, you know, the Donald.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Said it was it was. It was a booze hound
and a something else a lover.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Well, Steve Jobs was never formally diagnosed, many people and
experts do believe that he showed traits of being on
the autism spectrum and having aspergers.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Yeah, well there you go for maybe he was just
smart than man. I do feel like I'm alone sometimes.
I'll tell you that, that's why I stay to myself.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
You know. It feels like they're alone right now. Probably
Kean Coleman.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah, great, great, second, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I mean when you when your owner throws you under
the like that.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Hey, Kean, and we got a question for you. You
ever wiped the dry piece of toilet paint?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
He did yesterday? This is as good as it gets.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It's not once you switched to life changing wet extra
large flushable Dude Wives because wetter just cleans better. Available
at Amazon and at major retailers nationwide. Dude Wives, best
clean pants down. You know where them do wipes go?
Speaker 5 (04:21):
You can flush them, so he could.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Go right where to do wipe that he use. He
go right with it. Yeah, that was something yesterday.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Terry Poula, the owner of the Buffalo Bills and Brandon
Bean conference.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Before we play the sound, can I just throw this
out there? Are we to the point where we got
some of these owners that are getting so old You're like,
oh no, but have those senior moments.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
I feel like they're getting so old and times have
changed so much they're so disconnected from how soft this
this day and age is that they don't care more.
Most old hits don't care anyway. But now the politically
the being politically correct phase of of doing things with
(05:09):
old hits, it's gone. It is gone. They don't even
care no more. Terry don't even care, Like, Hey, I'm
gonna shoot you straight. I own banguitting at all, and
y'all gonna stop ratting on my GM like.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That because that's my guy. Yeah, I could go kick
a rock.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
So much so he promoted him now. Yesterday, amongst a
bunch of questions about you know, Sean mcdermot's firing, et cetera,
et cetera, the question was posed to Brandon being about
the situation with Keon Coleman, who they drafted and it
just hasn't worked out. He was benched. There's been a
(05:48):
lot of off the field stuff with him. He's not
showing up on time, so on and so forth. I
think there's been some fines that have been handed out
as well too, and so they've been asking, you know what,
what's really gone on with it? Your fingerprints are all
over this move in drafting Keon Coleman and then yes,
and then Terry Pegula decided, you know what, I don't
(06:09):
need to use my blinker all merge right into this
lane and take this.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, rupt, I'll address the Keon situation. The coaching staff
pushed to draft Kon. I'm not saying Brandon wouldn't have
drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice. That was
Brandon being a team player and taking advice of his
(06:35):
coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Who felt strongly about the player.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And he's taken, for some reason, heat over it and
not saying a word about it.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
But I'm here to tell you the true story.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Now there's a couple of problems with that true story,
all right. Number one, that player is still on your roster.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Didn't you didn't say?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Number two, there's audio and video at the combine of
Brandon Bean saying I'm glad Keon Coleman's forty was a
little bit disappointing because that way to help me draft him,
so clearly he wanted him.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Do we have the sound, pat?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Oh yeah, okay, thanks, Lauryn. Can just play it? I
just you got to contrast these two.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Basically, when I went to bed that night, I was like,
it's it's Keon unless someone just blows us away. We
didn't feel anything was attractive enough for us to pass
up on kyok.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
All things considerable things consider get the guy who's yeah,
so sposed to get this might be.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Obvious that so tomorrow who we pay, We're just going
to keep trading mounting.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
We're gonna get fourteen fifths barring someone offering us something,
they'll take Keo cooler Man.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, it's a little damning type in damning.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
They literally made a video about Brandon being making the selection.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, it's a little damn And you know what's crazy.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Chom was if y'all remember he was like the biggest
personality the media, sweetheart, the promotion, sweetheart commercial sweetheart going
into the season, like right after he got drafted, he.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Got he blew up super like was super popular.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Was in the media all the time, like people loved
him like they I mean, the perception of him was
his Q rating.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Was really I This just tells me how much Josh
Allen has covered up things in that organization that maybe
we weren't aware of. Because Terry Pakola sounds like Woody Johnson,
sound like the Jets don't talk.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
About my boy like that man. Hold on, now, don't
go that far. We all don't go that far.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
If you're a Jets fan, and you if you're a
Jets fan.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Oh look, I ain't gonna go in in the up around.
And hey, I heard Jonas was was going after me.
You ain't saying, well, I can't.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
If you ever wanted to make sure I covered off.
If you ever wondered as a Jets fan, what it
would be like playing the Bills twice a year to
have Josh Allen as your quarterback, Well, this is what
it's like like, this is what it would look like
if Josh Allen was your courter.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Well, you're in trouble unless it's the playoffs. Such a
bad look.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Well yeah, it's not only a what do they know
about that? It's a terrible look. And what makes things
worse is, like I was looking back on just like
what McDermott's done during his tenure there, I'm like, all right,
this is interesting. I mean, he's got the third highest
winning percentage of an active head coach. He only missed
(09:51):
the playoffs once. We talked about this yesterday. Do you
know his winning percentage is fifteenth whole time amongst head
coaches in NFL history, Like he's been really really good.
They just haven't been able to kind of like crack
that seal. And I kind of go back to this
discussion we had yesterday because LeVar, you wanted to associate
(10:15):
the record with the team, and it's you.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Love like trying to make sure that you prove what
I'd say is wrong. Guy, you no tell us what
you're thinking, Brady.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
What I'm saying. What I'm thinking is like McDermott, who
is directly associated with it, he gets clipped, and meanwhile,
then Brandon Bean gets credit for it. And meanwhile you've
got an owner who's sitting there like lamb basting the
fact that they took Keon Coleman because of the coaching staff. Meanwhile,
we've got evidence otherwise. I just looked and go like
(10:51):
it's just it's always to me about the ability for
whoever gets that owner's ear. And there's other examples of
this within organizations where there's dysfunction, but someone's got the
rich guy's ear and somehow, even though again there's evidence otherwise,
he's like brainwashed or he's talked into thinking that like yo, no, no,
(11:13):
I was shot mcdifference pick. Yeah, I wasn't. It wasn't Brandon's.
It's like, no, it was. It was Brandon's. That's his job.
That's exactly who's pick it was. And not only doesn't
not get fire you, it's promoted.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I don't know. I look at it and go, I
wonder if candidates who are now looking at that opening
Joe Brady who interviewed yesterday, and there'll be some others
as attractive as it is because of Josh Allen looking
at it and go, maybe there's a little more there.
To Jonas's point, maybe it's not as functional as as
we thought, just because their success and it kind of
(11:47):
pairs similarly similarly to Pittsburgh in away right.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Oh, I was going to say in the hardball situation.
I mean, but yeah, Pittsburgh as well. And by the way,
I was on the throne using a dude like when
Brady shot the whole you know, the stray on me yesterday.
I I caught that friendly fire yesterday.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It was a catch. Mean, it was a catch. I
was like I was.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
It was booty minting myself when I got me, when
I caught me straight on a tangent.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
So I was texting with Blandino, and I said to him,
I go, I go, hey, by the way, I go,
you initially told me when they were up in Seattle
for the game that you thought it was a catch.
He said, yeah, I go, what happened when Tom looked
at it and tell you it wasn't a catch? So
you just changed your opinion? He goes, samn, he's He's like,
not quite. I go, okay, what was it? He goes,
(12:40):
I just I don't know. I goes, I felt like
there's another angle of it. I said, okay, that's fair,
that's fine, But I go, that angle didn't really show
it from this cybery. It seems like there's more body control.
Whatever I was boo, that was. That was more than
just like I'm I'm Booty Minting and I get it.
I catch it straight from Brady it was a catch.
There's a different since I since.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I'm the only one, I'm the only one that said
it was a catch, by the way, so it's a
whole hold on. I'm okay with being wrong. I really am.
Like I had moved on from it.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
What I said to you, I.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Know that toilet caught what I threw I was one
hundred and four hundred.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I was one hundred.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Percent completely touchdown, touchdown, touchdown again, Like.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
My whole thing was whatever they called in the field
was what it was going to be. That was that
was ultimate I kind of felt about that play, and
I agree with that one hundred.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I agree with that because ultimately, in my estimation, it
ultimately comes down to a judgment call in that moment
because your reasoning wasn't wrong, well it was.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I don't think that your reasoning was.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Incouraged judgment call that got Sean mcdermy fired. I mean,
if you would have looked back on it, like if
the Bills win that game, I don't know that he's
getting fired.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
And I don't disagree with that, but I will say
that now listening to the way Terry is discussing like
he's in defense mode, it sounds like they're in defense mode.
And in Buffalo, maybe again you guys said it yesterday,
maybe the hat writing was on the wall, you know,
(14:22):
and maybe it was super Bowl or bust, which I
thought this year for Buffalo was super Bowl or bus.
And then once we got closer to the playoffs and
you saw how things were were kind of shaping up.
At one hundred percent went up that it should be
a super Bowl or bus year for Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
No reason.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
You can't give a real reason as to why a
Josh Allen led team wouldn't be in pole position to
get the super Bowl this season this year, So I
don't Maybe he does save his job, but if we're
going base it off of a play, it's hard for
(15:06):
me to accept that a play was the reason why
that man lost his job, which it has happened. I mean,
it's not like it's not something that's happened in the past.
But I just find that one hard.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Terry Pegoula did address why Sean McDermott was fired, He'd
like to push back on that notion that it was
about a bad call in a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I did not fire a coach based on a bad
officiating decision. If I can take you into that locker room,
I felt like we hit the proverbial playoff.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Wall year after year.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Thirteen seconds, miss field goals, the catch. I just sensed
in that locker room, like, where do we go from here?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Is its super Bowl or bust? Because in twenty twenty six, No.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
We can't.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
We can't say that to somebody coming in. We were
making a change, and you know, it's do your best job.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Good isn't good enough anymore. I mean, I think we
all know that. The I mean the clarity of that,
and I'll let y'all I have a baseball good isn't
good enough anymore.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
But baseball used to be you hit singles, doubles, get
on base, you get the runner home. It's home runs
or strikeouts. That's why even baseball has become Yeah, so
you can't convince me that whoever gets the head coaching job,
especially if they don't make the playoffs. You know, think
Terry Boogol is gonna be like, oh, well, this doesn't
feel good. This feels like a step back. Yeah, dude, Yeah,
(16:32):
like you got took for granted the fact that you're
in the playoffs every year when mcdermo's there, just because
you're gonna get to a super Bowl. Here's what I
think there's an element of here, and people may take
an issue with this. I'm just gonna say it, Okay,
it takes some luck. I think there's a lot of
successful people out there who believe that what they've done
(16:52):
to get where they're at is all things they've done.
It's hard work, it's dedication, sacrifice, blah blah blah, it's talent.
It's a little luck too. If we're being honest with
like about a lot of it, it's it's probably more
luck than people like to actually like to admit, you
got a call that went your way, your team stayed healthy.
(17:16):
You know, there's other things that play a factor into that.
But the truth is, like luck plays a much bigger
role in all of us. Do you not think the
Denver broncos I want to sitting there going, dang, dude,
how unlucky are we that? Like boat Nicks after playing
a great game and the second to last play it
breaks his ankle out of there the war Like, you
(17:37):
get to this point here and you basically have the
dude who hopes to win the game breaks his ankle.
Now you get a backup. Playing the AFC Championship game
like that is not anything other than just sheer luck.
Either have it or you don't. And for those teams
that have had in this special season, you could look
back on a lot of different moments, plenty of moments
(18:00):
and say, yeah, there's some luck involved. And by the way,
that's okay, like people act like it discredits people's accomplishments.
Like you read through things about these titans who build
up different industries Bill Gates. Go look at where Bill
Gates was born and when he was born. If he
wasn't in that exact scenario, probably doesn't make Sun Microsystems,
(18:23):
which eventually becomes Microsoft, and he eventually becomes this billionaire
one of the most powerful men in the world because
of where he grew up, the resources that he had,
the access to what he had at that time. If
he was born sooner, wouldn't have had access to it
at that moment. If he was born somewhere else, probably
wouldn't have had a computer system one of the first
ever to go to when he was in Seattle. There's
(18:45):
all sorts of examples of this like throughout time and life,
but we tend to just be like.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, no, it was me, it was this, it was that,
and that was no, it.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Wasn't dude, Like the part of it was just sheer luck.
And I feel like there's a little bit of a
little bit of that at play here where if you
look at just the unluckiness of even Buffalo and the
call that took place if that calls a catch, they
win the game. So I don't know, man, I just
I've listened to all this stuff from Terpagol and I
(19:15):
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Speaker 1 (21:54):
By the way, there's a good clamshowder in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Were out there?
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I just had some clam chower or yesterday, did you
like real clam chowder with like the clam shell and everything,
Like the clam wasn't even removed from the clam shell.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Brady's gonna blow chunks right now. It's really good, man,
it's really good.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Why do you guys act like you like clam chowder?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Sultan Pearl good?
Speaker 4 (22:18):
I don't trust jonas being honest about this.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I like clam chowder. Actually.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
So a Fisherman's wharf in San Francisco, they have a sour.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Was like a h it does it does? It does
have a little smell to it. It's a Boudine place, right.
It's called like I thought you said something else, whoa.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
No, no, no poutinees what goes over like fries.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
I like my version of what I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Is poutine a Canadian French thing.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I think it's a French thing. I'll double check because
didn't they have it?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, but New Orleans has French influence.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
That's why they called him. I think it's a French
so good. I mean, there's the French in Canada and
he was always tasting the poutine. Yeah by the way. Yeah,
so it's there's problems, man.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
There's a first meet in Quebec, Montreal like the Bacon baby.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So there's a sourdough bread ball Fisherman's wharf with some
good clam chowder.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Why are you saying we acting? Why can't we like
clam chowder?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Because the way the way you're saying it right now,
and now he's throwing in sour dough and there's a
whole yeast thing. I mean, we got, I mean, here's
the thing. Is Larina against sour. She knows what I'm
talking about. See she's laughing because the whole starter yeeze thing.
I just you guys are off, yes, yes, problems.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Man, So you're heading down the lane of infections.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Like I'm actually being honest about how you make sourdo
bread at the moment, and like you guys are twisting
it into your just right in the gutter. I be
jerking the wheel right now.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Oh my gosh, just just jerk that wheel into the gutter. Yeah,
oh my goodness, this is off.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
The rails, man, it is good.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Look man, hey, you got you got to go through
some yeast to get to the dough, you know.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Oh man, Okay, all.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Right, so thank you.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I'm mean out and leave it up to Jonas to
get one awkward moment to ruin the whole bit what.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
He always he always acts like he's not a part of.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Little He's so good to get to the dough mess.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You how many guys are driving around going Yeah, he's right, Jonas.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Ain't lying, Yes, tell him truth this morning, keep it real,
all right?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
So what's the latest on this, uh Darien Mensa crap?
Is he gonna be able to transfer and get to
Miami or is this gonna be uh?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Are we gonna play this whole thing like he's still
in the yeast of it?
Speaker 5 (25:29):
What's I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
You know, LeVar, The yeast you could do is is
have a real conversation here.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Well, who's gonna have an explanation for it?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
All right?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So, so so what do we got here on on
Darien Mensa.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
He's been uh, he's been deemed to enter the transfer portal. However,
he cannot enroll or play football at another school right
now until a judge rules on Duke's request for an
injunction that would prevent him from leaving Duke. So that's
where we are at at this point. I believe he's
entered the transfer portal with a do not contact designation
(26:16):
For those of you that don't understand what that means. Typically,
when a player enters the transfer portal, they enter and
if their contact information goes out, teams can start contacting them.
But some connection with it do not contact. And if
you ever thought that there wasn't tampering going on, this
is a surefire sign that there is, because why would
(26:38):
you enter into to transfer another school, then tell them
that everyone that no one can contact you, especially if
you just entered, like, how would you know? You haven't
talked to enough teams out there. But usually this means
that there's already been a team that he has selected.
How that came about? Not sure? Luck? Okay, not lucky.
Like the other thing, there was probably at ye stick
(27:00):
conversation that.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
It was that whole It was a hug, them hugs
and them embraces. There they gotta go. You'll never see
them after the games anymore. If I like, sportsmanship is done,
postgame sportsmanship, pregame sportsmanship done. You can't talk to your friend.
(27:27):
I know y'all went to high school together. You can't
talk to them if y'all want to do it on
your own time. Y'all want to be on cell phones
and stuff like that, we can't stop that. But on
this field, ain't no shaking hands, ain't no hugs, warm embraces,
because everybody's recruiting. Everybody's recruiting. Bro I've seen it with
my own two eyes, and it's wild. It's wild, how
(27:50):
how blatant it is too. Wasn't didn't Lincoln Riley get
accused of that? Wasn't he doing something postgames.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
With somebody offered a player a million dollars what a
sport which didn't end up happening, and I don't know,
might have helped him in a specific game that he
no longer has to play anymore. I think what's interesting
about this is it's going to as we I always
like to say, from a legal perspective, it's going to
(28:16):
set a present in one way or another. And we
keep looking for Congress to get involved to create antitrust
protections for some of these universities so they can have
some sort of enforceable rules, since a collective bargain agreement
doesn't seem like it's anywhere close to happening. If that's
(28:37):
the case, I just I look at it. I said,
I feel bad in a way for the players, only
because you know he's going to be subject to a
lot of scrutiny, and when he gets to Miami, the
expectations are high, which I think he realizes that.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
But.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
It's the system that's been set up and that they're
living in, it's not the one that they choose. Like,
this isn't how Darien Mensa would like to handle this.
But if you don't think that, you wouldn't want to
go to another school that you feel like has a
better chance of winning a national championship, is going to
compensate you more for what you do, You're out of
(29:11):
your damn mind, Like, don't be critical of these kids.
You don't know their background. You don't know what the
shelf life is for how long they're going to be
able to play. He's had a serious arm injury. Like
there's elements too, like how teams will view him once
he gets to the combine and he eventually goes on
in the NFL level in the draft. I don't know
what that means for his career, but I'm surely not
(29:34):
going to judge him for probably taking the advice of
those advising him, which is a whole separate issue, for
trying to, you know, find a place that's going to
pay him more and let him go try to win
a national championship. I know it looks and maybe sounds
wrong in some ways, but it's the nature of where
we're at in college football. Crazy.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Once again, we're to a place where all the information
that's available Villa and I, this is the athlete.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
We're not We're not saying, hey, dude, just let the kid.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
If the kid doesn't want to be there anymore, lick
your wombs, take your lumps, move on. You're an amazing
traditional university higher like super higher level of education learning
institution at Duke.
Speaker 9 (30:26):
Like.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Relax, it's one person, it's one player. Okay, you don't
want them there. You feel slighted. Oh you know what,
some type of compensation.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
But injunctions that he can't leave, you're not allowed to leave,
You're gonna play here or you're not playing anywhere. Someone
needs to have their ass whipped over this. That is
a college hold on, hold on student athlete. If he
(31:03):
wants to go somewhere else and utilize the portal, even
if your contract says what it says, just negotiate the severance,
negotiate the parting of ways. I have no problem if
the conversations when I heard the Georgia lawsuit. I thought
(31:24):
it was egregious to say he has to pay back
moneies that haven't been paid to him. But in a way,
if you think about it, if the kid is leaving
to go get more money somewhere else, if that is
indeed what it is that they're leaving for, and it's
not just because well, for me, I can go here
and have a chance to win a national title, whatever
it is. But Georgia does give you a chance to
(31:44):
win a national title.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
So maybe you can't use that as an excuse.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
But if for some reason you're leaving because you're getting
more money, I can understand Georgia is saying, well, we
want to be compensated because basically you.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Used us to be able to get that.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
But if you're telling me, and this is what sounds like,
correct me if I'm wrong, Duke is like, we don't
want you leaving and we don't want you playing if
you're not doing it at Duke, that's wrong. That's that's wrong, man.
That's take take a take a buyout agreement, whatever it
(32:22):
may be. Maybe that's where college football is heading. If
you go into the transfer portal and you're one of
these high end because we're really talking about a top
what one percent, it probably won't go out one percent
of the athletes I had this type of command anyway,
still a buy out.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You know what's interesting, Jonas, I know you don't follow
English Premier League soccer, but you said yesterday it's not true. Well, okay,
and maybe it's not to I never hear you talk
about it leads what some some teams like you can
loan out players right like you can. There's different mechanisms
that are in place that are in professional leagues elsewhere,
(33:02):
and I wish college football would look at that because
I do feel like there's a model that could help
support all of this, and the EPL model with the
lower tier leagues two would make a lot of sense
for college football. It would reward those programs that maybe
aren't viewed as blue blood, that don't have as much
cash and so forth for their success and allow them
(33:25):
to get promoted. And it would relegate programs that I
mean not trying to hate on Rutgers, just saying I
haven't really played much of a factor in a lot
of I mean, you could pick your school that hasn't
really been able to hold up. It's part of the
bill in some of these bigger conferences, and if they
get relegated down, so be it. They have the opportunity
to get promoted back up. But to me, that would
(33:48):
be a much better model for college football. And I've
always said just from my time going over there to
watch those games, that is the closest thing in America
to what they experience. It's there as far as the culture,
the fandom, the fanatics that are around the game, and really,
quite frankly like the way this is set up. It
(34:09):
would be the easiest way to handle situations like this.
It really would. We don't have enough time. We got
to hit the break. But I'm just saying I wish
someone would take a deeper dive and look at saying
maybe this is something we could We should have an
American sports there's some sort of promotion relegation model, because
we don't have it right now.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
When they bring you on, just make sure I'm with you.
I'm with you, you know. That's that's all I said.
Just make sure I'm like your special partner. Can't counsel,
you know, because we can go through the yeast to
get to the dough together and this just let me.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Know, speaking of lead, sure did get full of that
yeast over the weekend. Huhuang talking about this right, No
le me look it up wi Fi.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
This is a great goal. It's so silly, bro.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It is.
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Speaker 1 (36:18):
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Speaker 9 (36:32):
Alright, sneaking a little bit of a no no, no,
no boo.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
All right, well it's your boy, your boy.
Speaker 10 (36:48):
Yeah, let's let's get in case you missed it, because
that that that fell, that's time. In case you missed
the time, guys, well, I have a first one here.
So Joe Mixon. We all know he's been out for
what's felt like years, it's really been one, but he
had that freak injury. Well, Nick Cassario, the gem of
the Texans, actually she had somewhat of somewhat honestly we
(37:11):
have a sound for it, and I give a listen here.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
You guys don't want to disclose it to a reason
why we can't just have what happened.
Speaker 11 (37:17):
Yeah, No, I would say he didn't do anything off
the field. It wasn't like he was riding like a
snowmobile or anything like that. I'd say it was just
more of a medical condition or situation that just we
never it really didn't improve, maybe as much as everybody
would have hoped. I mean, I'm not trying to like
evade the question. I think that's the reality of the situation.
So like he didn't jump off a building, like he
(37:38):
wasn't cliff diving or anything like that. He wasn't doing
anything irresponsible. It was just it was a freak thing anesto.
I've never seen it, you know, just the condition.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Hope that situation will improve.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Before next time.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
We'll see.
Speaker 11 (37:49):
I mean, I believe me, I'm not smart enough to
be a doctor, so I mean I'll leave that up
to the medical experts. And you know, once we going
back to some of your other questions, we get a
little bit more clarity, more information, then we'll kind of
see where we are moving forward.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
What happened. I mean, Jonas, you made a pretty ridiculous allegation. Okay,
you did, and I think he just cleared that up.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
But well, I mean, there's just been some speculation online
that Joe Mixon shot himself.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
That was a rumor online. Well you can't say you've
never seen that before. My homie covered that off.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Oh come on, well, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Being honest, like that's man, we can be real here,
we can be honest.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Like that's that's been done before. That's not unique, like
shot himself on purpose? Not on purpose? What would shoot
themselves on purpose? What? Many people? Doesn't work that way?
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (38:45):
Actually, yeah, no, Lorrena doesn't work that way.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
It was accidental.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
I don't really think anybody who's playing in the NFL
would want to purposely bust a cap in their own ass,
like damn, yeah, dang, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
But that would be interesting.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
He didn't mentioned gunshot, He mentioned jumping off of a building.
He meant, mentioned snow mobile.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
He did not mention.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
He said it was nothing irresponsible. Wouldn't that fall into
that category? Yeah? I would?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Okay, how does a rumor like that get started?
Speaker 4 (39:20):
You and people are like, oh, I heard this Judas
Knox guys say this.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Hey, Joe Mixon, if you're listening, man, I did not
start that rumor. I simply you just did. I simply
just did tell. And actually, if you want to get
credit where credit is.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Deserved, don't come out way because you're known to try
to throw something right in front of me.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Don't know, okay, okay, good.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I was listening up on Game last night, bro knows.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I read it on OutKick. Listen, you know you'll listen
to ourself. I was, uh.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
I read it on OutKick that they that there's been
some some rumors that have been flowed out of there.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I was unaware of it.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I just know that he had some issue that popped
up in July and it was like, well, he's going
to start the season on the pup list and that
was that and they really could have used.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Him this year.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
By the way, he's no doctor and he doesn't want
to disclose what it is. And it wasn't irresponsible. Why
can't you like when Eric Barry went out because he
was fighting cancer, like you talk about it, if it's
a condition, why can't you just it's like explain it
to a certain degree that it's a medical condition that
(40:40):
respect the privacy of him and his family. Like why
can't you do it that way? Like why does it
have to be so cryptic? I just I don't know, man,
I don't know. Seems strange to me. Yeah, just say
what the east on the leg? Man, east on the
leg and now he can't run as well.
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