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On this Thursday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington hear the latest on Diana Russini & Mike Vrabel surrounding them renting a private boat back in 2021 to make the situation even murkier. Plus, the guys recap the fact that Wemby is an alien, we have a weird meniscus tear edition of ICYMI, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
he here coming up on this Thursday edition.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Of course, we're going to have the usuals.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
We've got another edition of in case you missed it,
The Leftovers, and Albert Breer is going to stop by.
We're also going to have a conversation about what exactly
is a freak in the world of sports, because we're
watching one in Wemby and have you seen this ever before?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
We will discuss.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
We're also going to have a discussion when it comes
to the NBA on what the future looks like for
Luka Doncic, whether or not he comes back this year,
and whether or not it's injury or just inspiration. We'll
get into the conversation regarding Mike Rabel and Diana Rossini.
Yes it's back, Yes it's bad, but could it ultimately
cost the New England Patriots their head coach for week one?

(00:44):
We will also have a conversation as well too about
the latest on Brendan Soresby. Apparently the writing is on
the wall if you look at recent history in the
world of football. What's the plan for Russell Wilson moving
forward and what's the plan for Travis Hunter and the
Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1 (02:04):
How we feeling here on this Thursday morning.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Feeling good? Ready to roll good.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Everybody fired up some hot blooded NBA action last night.
Oh okay, real really good stuff last night. The San
Antonio Spurs get back and get in the series to
tie a one game apiece. The Philadelphia seventy six Ers
made it competitive, but that series is over.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's fun.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
I feel like the Spurs look unstoppable if they play
how they did last night, and that might even include
beating OKAC. Now I'm excited for that matchup. I kind
of hope. I know, there's a lot of a lot
of games left. I understand the Timberwolves obviously took game one.
I'm just saying, looking at the matchup between the Spurs
and OKAC, that's the one I most want to see.

(02:52):
I just I think that would be the best matchup
in the Western Finals. And I don't know, I just
that would be the most entertaining to me.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
Yeah, no doubt about it. That would be easily the
best matchup. Yeah, I mean, I just don't know. If
they can get out of that series, it's gonna be work.
It's gonna be working. And listen, they got it started
last night, and that's you know, that matters, that counts.
But I just, you know, I don't know. It's You

(03:25):
could say that they stole game one, but I think
they won game one. You could say that the Spurs
got back on track this game, which they did. But
it could be one of those, uh, you know, polar
opposite series, so to speak, like one game to the next,
doesn't you know, it could be totally different, day and

(03:47):
night different. It seems like that could be this type
of series. Like okay, just like oh the Minnesota Minnesota
timberwol was like okay, Like they showed up and didn't
even start. He's not even all the way health They
get a dub. Okay, but then all right, here comes
Wemby and Spurs. They just did what they did last evening,
handled their business, and it's like, all right, they're on track.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
This is the Spurs team we were looking for.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
They're aging well, maturing wisely and quickly, and they could
go on a run in this series. But the next
game is going to hold a different storyline. I think
that's kind of I don't think anyone has established, any
team is established that they're the dominant team over the
other one in this series.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
Just yet.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
The other thing that's a problem with seven game series
because in the end. Look, if you're in the NFL playoffs,
you know it's a one and done. You get one opportunity,
and whatever you fire off from that game you just
live with for the rest of the offseason or you know,
the rest of that time that the team who won
is in the postseason. With the NBA playoffs, it's such
a knee jerk reaction to every single game, to where

(04:53):
one game San Antonio looks completely lost. The next game,
you know, they're setting a record for points in a
playoff game. One game it looks like Minnesota's got their number,
the next game. It's just it's just the the up
and down nature of the NBA playoffs to where that
series got extended last night and we're just gonna have

(05:15):
to live game by game with whatever the result is.
As opposed to Philly and New York to where I
just look at that series and I go.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Phillies, NBA.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Phillies NBA title was beating Boston like that was their title,
and it was very similar to the Knicks last year.
And the New York's gonna, you know, roll in to
the Eastern Conference finals. Madison Square Garden is going to
be a zoo it's going to be the energy is
going to be through the roof and that and most likely,
more than likely the Knicks are going to be the

(05:43):
team that represents the Eastern Conference. But for the most part,
it's just so up and down with some of these games.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
You just okay, that being said, which do you feel
like the San Antonio Spurs are closer to Because I
think it's what we saw last night. That's why I
look at it and just kind of say Game one,
I said it the day I chocked up just a
bad shooting knife for the Spurs, they kind of lost
themselves and couldn't really find a way to pull down
in the end. Now I think you saw the version,

(06:10):
then they're going to see the rest of the series
as possible.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
I think that's certainly possible to take that conclusion away
from it. Obviously, if Fox darn It's playing the way
that he played last evening along with Wemby, and Wimby
doesn't have to be a you know, a one man gang,
then it's going to be tough for the Timberwolves if

(06:37):
Anthony Edwards isn't playing and feeling at his best. But
I also say, if Go Bear can slow down and
do some of the things he was able to do
in the first series, like what he the success he
was able to have defensively against Jokic and and Randall

(07:02):
can continue to be more of a factor. He has
to be a little bit more consistent, if you ask me.
But yeah, I think I think it's it's not a
clear I'm going to have to see what Game three holds,
because I still don't feel like as well as they

(07:23):
played and de Aaron Fox getting on you know, getting
on track, that it still represents that this series is over.
I still think Minnesota has some fight in them, you know.
I think that they have some good players, that they
they're actually a really good matchup. Nas Reed is a

(07:44):
name that comes to mind, like they're a really good
matchup interiorly, and and so if they can do what
they need to do, I mean, I think what what
Rudy had, like eleven eleven rebounds, maybe maybe it was
a le I think he had eleven rebounds last night.
If they can bang the glass, hit the glass, if

(08:05):
they can limit the amount of opportunities the Spurs get
on second chance, second chance opportunities, I just think that
they the loss wasn't as bad as it may may
have looked.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
So this is very similar to the NFC last year
in the playoffs, where whoever won the NFC title game
was going to win the Super Bowl. I feel like
whoever wins the Western Conference is going to win the
NBA title. Your Western Conference is the NBA Finals.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
I know that's what you want to say, and I
know that it's.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I and I said it with my chest.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
You know, he's standing.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Chest man.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
Yeah aggressive this morning?

Speaker 6 (08:52):
Okay, that far well, I'll I'll say it wouldn't be
the first time that I had to eat words that
you guys have thrown out there, but it certainly wouldn't
be the first time that you guys serve up something
that's not eatable. I think the Knicks look really good.

(09:14):
I like the Calves, but the Calves always let you down.
They just always do. They find a way to do it.
The Knicks do it as well.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
And what's he going to do when it doesn't happen
this time when it's the Cleveland Cavaliers represented the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
I'm just saying, like, what's he going to do then?

Speaker 7 (09:30):
Folks?

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Right, see how he asks about them?

Speaker 4 (09:36):
It's fine.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Oh, doubting keep believing in the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Or whoever else, all right, I don't, but I'm not
saying I believe it.

Speaker 7 (09:44):
I'm just saying it.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
I don't think it's as I don't think it's as
clear cut as as it sounds. That's all. It's going
to be a series. They're going to have to fight
to get through that series.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Age here, Donovan Mitchell is, uh, you know, he didn't
want to complain about flopping in the NBA because Jalen
Brown got fined fifty thousand dollars, but he's basically saying
he can't get the calls unless he flops.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
You know, that was his.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
So I do feel like, hey, one of the little
storylines here is that more and more NBA players are
starting to stand up and be like, you know, this
flopping thing has got to stop in this league, all right.
It's been running them up for a long ass time.
It's been going on for years and years and years.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
It doesn't he.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeh, I'm sure, but yeah, they don't want to turn
into soccer, so they're looking around going no, no, we
got a toughen this game up a little bit. So
I feel like there's been a little bit of a
shift there, and Donovan Mitchell's trying to do his part
now that Jalen Brown got eliminated and got pop fifty
thousand dollars, So there's something there. At least we're getting
back to the old school days and longer the Timberwolves
stay alive. Old school basketball is here to stay. Instead,

(10:51):
they're getting blown out by a team who's got a
building walking around, you know, running down the lane, dunking
from you know, from half court, taking two steps. I
know when Benyama listen, man, and and Brady's.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Made the point.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
He's an alien. I watch him play and I don't
get it.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
I just get it.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
I just don't understand. I don't get any of it.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Like I don't know how you put that much skill
set in a body and then say, you know what
we're gonna do. You get on one end, I'll get
on the other, and let's pull him until he's seven
to seven or whatever. I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
He's grown.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
It does.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
I don't think it's real. I'm just telling them, I
don't think he's real.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Truck somewhere his feet to the truck and let's back
up and you hold onto his arms and let's just
let's just stretch him out as far as we can
and see what we can do with this body. Because
he's got every skill set. He blots, what doesn't he
what doesn't he do well? Like I just I look
at it. I don't none of it makes any sense.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
At his side.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
I think you can compliment him without talking about time
to the back of a truck.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
No, I'm just saying he stretched out. They just they
just stretched him out. Somebody got on one end, somebody
got on the other.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
And just said, you can describe that.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay, Well listen, man, it just just it doesn't It
doesn't get I don't understand any of it. And when
he drives through the lane, he's smooth. At the same time,
it doesn't look awkward like Porzingis is another really tall
guy who can shoot, but there's limitations there. And I'm
watching Porzingis and I go, man, when is he going

(12:34):
to get hurt? I watch him the same thing with
chet Holmgren, with Wemby. I don't really look at him
and go, God, I wonder if he's going to get hurt.
There's this smooth I don't think there's a smoothness to
the way that he moves.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
But not how he falls. I mean when he falls,
it feels like.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
Oh yeah, and then I time it how long it
takes him to get up, you know, from putting his
hand on the ground to pushing up to getting into
his feet.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
You mean when they plug him in and he inflates.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
That's a whole lot of body getting up off the ground. Man.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
And he's not like thick, He's slight of frame. So
I don't know about that. Like when he falls down,
I'm like.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Oh, he's gonna get back up, all right?

Speaker 7 (13:14):
It hurt? It hurt him the last series. Didn't he
get hurt last series?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Or was that concussion?

Speaker 7 (13:20):
Yeah? Concussion?

Speaker 6 (13:21):
I mean, could you imagine falling from a ladder and
hitting your head on the ground like that, That would
be the equivalent of him hitting his head off the
ground and falling to the ground.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
He's on a step store, you fall off.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
Reenacted. You know how they used to do sports science.
Oh you want to get a concussion though, fall from
a ladder. That's what it's like for victim.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Where does he rank amongst Because I was thinking about
this last night amongst athletes.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
You watch that, You're like, what is that? I got
up there?

Speaker 7 (13:55):
Man, because he is up there.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Like when Cam Newton first came into the NFL, I
remember what, I'm like, what is that? Don't I don't.
That's one that I didn't understand, But now just seems.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
You alst remember seeing him on the field. No, that
guy plays quarterback. I was like him. And then Brandon
Jacobs is a running back. I'll never forget see him.
He was huge. I mean, yeah, Steven Jackson was also big.
I always felt bad for defenders having to tackle him
because he ran so hard. But like Brandon Jacobs looked

(14:27):
like a legit old school not like today's edge where
you're like six four two fifty, like an old school.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Six foot six two wearing eighty pound, like four to
three d n you know what I'm talking about? Too far?

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Like, yeah, I played with and against him, Yeah, yeah
he got blessed tackle him.

Speaker 7 (14:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
How big was?

Speaker 7 (14:50):
I feel? Like KD.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
I mean, he's a real six five six six, real
six four six five.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Six four two sixty five Jesus.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
Yeah, I mean, but but what you failed to understand
is how fast he is.

Speaker 7 (15:08):
Dude was fast he was.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
Super fast man Like we worked out in the off
season together, like he was like my workout partner. We
pushed each other, so he was it was. It was
impressive watching him, I'll say that. Yeah, him and Bob
Whitfield were my my They were the only two that
would actually try to lift as much as I did
in the weight room. So some funny stories. I remember

(15:34):
Ap tried to go through the workouts with me one
time and he ran out of the He ran out
of the uh, out of the weight room because he
might have had started to tear something in his in
his shoulder or something like that. But I used to
work hard, man, I was. I was, and I worked heavy.
So but Brandon Jacobs, Bob Whitfield, they definitely could handle it.

(15:56):
And then when we go on the field, when we
did the latter and all the agilities, and you know,
he was he made for a cute, cute workout partner
because he was big like me, and he could move
and and hey, he kept me motivated because I was like, man,
if he's doing it, you know, if he can move
like that, I got to try to challenge myself to
move like that. So he was a freak I think

(16:20):
of like KD though, like that's that's a freaking dude,
Like original freaking is like Magic Johnson. That's like playing
point guard at that height and doing the things that
he was doing. But it's just still you look at
win Bin Yama and it's like it's just something different
about him.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Man.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
I don't know, and it's hard to put your finger
on it because I'd be really trying to figure out
how is he doing it? Like how how is he
not getting pushed around? How is he how is he.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Doing like he moves through the lane with this it's
like one step, yeah, but it's how do you call
a traveler anymore?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
I don't know. That's why I watch what.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
I'm just amazed that he's able to do what he
does in his height. It just seems like it would
it would hamper his ability to move around through traffic,
and it doesn't. He gets to where he wants to
go and there's not a problem.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
I just think when you're that close to the rim
and you had that type of skill, it's just I
said it before I say it again. It's almost like
you're playing with a nerf ball on a nerf rim.
You're just gonna have more confidence playing on a nerf
ball or Nerf rim than you are on a regular
ten foot rim. When he was jumping, like if you

(17:40):
watch him when he jumps, his head is literally at
the white banking square, like when he goes up to
get a ball or he goes up to dunke it
and it.

Speaker 7 (17:50):
Looks so easy.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
His head is literally above the white banking square, which
is crazy. That's crazy to think that he's up that high.
So he's a different dude, man, and definitely a different
and great great for him, But I don't know that
they're going to get out of this series though.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
That's that's it.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
And then on top of that, he so you think
a big guy like that, Shaq is another one, So
so Shack.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
Is that's a freak. That's a freak.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, okay, Wemby shoots eighty three percent from the free
throw line like big guys usually struggling. No, no, no,
I'm just I'm saying that, like you can usually find
something that like an.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
Issue there at some point weakness.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
And I just I look at him and I go, man,
maybe there's stuff that he's not completely polished at yet.
But I don't know if he stays healthy. I don't
know how we're not looking at one of the all
time greats.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Like, yeah, that's another one.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
He was built in a lab. They definitely built him.
Who were his parents?

Speaker 7 (18:47):
You could?

Speaker 6 (18:48):
I bet you you show us his parents.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
That's crazy just because he's che.

Speaker 7 (18:55):
Is he Chinese?

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (18:57):
Okay, well, I mean I don't see how that's racist.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
I know what you said.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
What you're saying babies, I think in like artificial wombs
or something stuff going.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
On over there.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
It might have been Yao ming Man a big head too,
he did. Yeah, it got bigger too as he got
like further away from playing basketball. No, it's bigger when
you're using pds, right. It just his head just kept growing. Yeah,
but doesn't your.

Speaker 7 (19:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
I don't know. My head got bigger. I can't fit
my my college or pro helmet.

Speaker 7 (19:40):
I got the fat head.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
All I know is Petros always says that I have
a big head. He's never seen Patty sweeze because nogging
on him.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
He just on top of the neck.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Jonas told me his hat size of the day.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Jonas has a big head seven and five eighths man.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
That's a jig Tour head mortified.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, what et for me?

Speaker 7 (20:03):
It is?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Your head is I'll show you right now, Bar your.

Speaker 7 (20:08):
Head looks nothing like Patty's.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Patty.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
You carry it well though, it doesn't you know on
your body it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Look that big.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
Well, thank you man, thank you carry it well.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
Remember the character from he Man that they used to
like when you could buy him as a toy and
you smash his head down? What was he ram Man
or something like that?

Speaker 7 (20:32):
What was that? Yes, yes, you have that he Man
vibe to you.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I have the power apparently.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
WHOA to get back to the NBA conversation.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
I think the Spurs take care of the Timberwolves of five,
so I think they get it done.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
It for the ones who get it done.

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Speaker 4 (23:50):
And.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Apparently they were really cautious about pictures being taken. He
took a group picture, did Mike Rabel, but he wanted
to make sure that it did not get out publicly.
They spent about two to three hours out there on
the boat, and nobody was with them. And apparently that
is the latest dig and fined by TMZ in this

(24:17):
saga and this story that apparently is not going away
anytime soon. I thought we had about seventy two hours
of all right, everything's calm down, I will feel good
about getting ready for the season. And now Drake May's
being asked about it again, and now this story comes
out with the boat rental back in Tennessee back in

(24:39):
twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
So I don't know.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
I'll let you, I'll let you and Q have this topic.
I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna wait.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Until the the what week one, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Schedule release week one. I'm gonna wait until week one
to start scheduling to this.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Week one is what we've talked about.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
I mean, I'm not sure if I mean, you do
this often where you try to take like a victory parade.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
I'm may, We're.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
In May, like this thing will eventually move on. Like
to me, this is I mean, obviously it's incredibly damning.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
It's awful to see the whole sit I mean, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Really sure outside of the additional different ways they've done
things like where this.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Whole thing is headed. But it's pretty clear.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
I think at this point that we've got a time
frame of what was happening over.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
That time frame.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
I mean, if you want to go down that road,
there was speculation that it might be his child.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Now this doesn't have anything to do with that, because
she was already pregnant.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
But the fact that they would do simingar this while
she was the whole thing, I mean, it feels like
there was a relationship, a love affair, whatever you want
to call it.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
I think that's been well established.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
So as more and more stuff comes out, it just
gets harder on Dinah's husband, Mike Brabel's wife, their families,
And that's that's.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
The toughest part with all of this.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
But again, I think you go back to the initial
resignation by Diana. You know, she obviously knew what was
coming or what potentially could have been out there. It
just keeps going back to, you know, does she ever
find herself in a place where she can work again
in this industry? And for Mike Grabel, you know, has
he been honest with his team? Has he told them

(26:29):
every part of this and and completely come out and
been upfront with it about what has transpired and over
what period of time? Because if he has, I think
they'll they'll look at him and say, okay, like he
owned up to it. But if he hasn't, and as
more comes out, that's where you lose credibility and trust

(26:51):
with the players. And that's at the current moment, and
it will it will, it will be the case as
even more stories like this come out. That's the biggest issue,
The biggest thing right now that I'm sure that the
Patriots are concerned about, worried about, or that they're looking
at if they were gonna say eventually to Mike k

(27:11):
you need to move on.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, I feel.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Less confident in my stance from earlier this week based
on this latest development that came out of this latest report.
I just think that there's going to be more. I
think that this goes deeper than was initially thought. We

(27:39):
mentioned it yesterday. The part that I look back on
and go maybe there was more to that is the
fact that Robert Kraft himself went to the New York
Post to try and get them to not release the photos.
And I think it's because maybe he had an understanding
that there was way more to this than just some

(27:59):
photos on a rooftop at some nice fancy place in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
And I and I.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Think that the more the TMZ goes and digs around
into this, uh, the more they're gonna find stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
And I don't see this ending anytime soon.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
So it is it safe to say that the more
that's coming out, it's it's it was one of the.

Speaker 7 (28:25):
Worst kept secrets.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
I mean, it just seems like, and maybe this works
too to Mike Rabels like his advantage. I think a
lot of people were aware of it, and I wouldn't
be surprised if if Robert Kraft was aware of it,
and I just maybe that's working to his advantage. I

(28:50):
and in terms of internally, I think he'll be fine
internally for one reason or another.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
I think he'll be fine. I just think the extra
ernal is going.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
To be what continues to be perpetuated the fact that
he still has a job. Diana Rassini doesn't. I think
that's a thing. I think that's going to continue to
be a thing. I think the more that these these
stories come out, these peppered stories that come out, peppering
the audience, peppering the and prodding the mob, I think

(29:25):
it goes one.

Speaker 7 (29:26):
Or two ways.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
It either continues to go and then it catches, it
catches some real momentum and then there's pressure. The public
opinion will create an enormous amount of pressure as it
applies to ownership decision makers for the New England Patriots.

(29:48):
It could be the impact on his personal, you know,
relationship with his family. It could be one of those
two things. Or it could subside and go away. I
don't think it will go away completely. I do not,
but it could subside to to ah, I guess a
level where it's like move on, move on from it,

(30:12):
and maybe some people are there now. But for for
what it's worth, media just does not give away perfect
Storm scandals.

Speaker 7 (30:22):
They just don't. They don't do it. This one is
even bigger.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
I think this one is even bigger than the last
one that came out with with Joey Taylor and Charlie Dixon.
This one is bigger. Oh just think it's bigger. Yeah,
So it's God if.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
He resigns, the storyline is still going to perpetuate in
the season.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
If he were to resign, yes, it's still would it
would it would still it would still continue on because
everything that the pay, just like everything the Patriots are
going to do, something's going to lead to you thinking
about the scandal.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
If they don't think TMZ is going to keep reporting
on this stuff unless there's legal issues that go into it,
like they can keep putting out these stories, then people
are gonna be like, well, yeah, neither of them in
the positions they're in anymore, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
Yeah, but I think you got to look at it
from the standpoint of it's not really about Diana and
Mike if he were to resign at that point. Now,
it's about the New England Patriots. So whatever's taking place there,
I don't think good want to.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Talk about it.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
They won't want to talk about I still just feel like, hey,
we've moved on.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
That's not the situation presented.

Speaker 6 (31:35):
But that's not But you and I both know that's
not how media works. They don't care if you want
to talk about it or not. There's interest. Those are
the things they're going to bring up.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
It did always work when Bill Belichick was there, It
really did.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
I mean how many times did he just plainly stand there.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
And go, we're honest and sinnati, we're honest and stay they.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Had a murderer on their team, Yeah they did.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
They think about how many things from Spygate to defle Gate,
that situation with Aaron Hernandez, and that was always Ronisson STUDI.

Speaker 7 (32:06):
Yeah, well, let's see how it works. I'm I'm standing firm.
I don't want to say.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
I shussed out.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
I mean, I don't.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
I don't feel like this is one of those topics
where I'm you know, I'm I'm bodacious and boldly like
laughing and boisterous about it and stuff.

Speaker 7 (32:26):
It's a very sombering tale of.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
A situation where two people's private business was violated by
the media, and now you know there's fallout from it.

Speaker 7 (32:37):
You know, it is what it is. Why can't they
be friends? You know?

Speaker 6 (32:43):
I look, you know, why couldn't they have rented a
boat because they were celebrating her pregnancy? Like why can't
a guy and a girl be friends without it being
something connected?

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Or he needed a sober driver for that boat?

Speaker 6 (32:54):
I told you, you know, I just think cocktails.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Why did he need to co side? Isn't that how
they found out about all this? Like that?

Speaker 5 (33:04):
That's that's the other thing. I'm not really sure it
makes any sense. Because they asked him like, oh, you
guys both gonna be driving? I would be like, yeah, no,
only one's gonna be driving.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
But like, it's just.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
I mean, there's that element of it too, where you're
kind of looking at going like if they were trying
to hide something they were not good at us.

Speaker 7 (33:22):
Yeah, I do know this.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
If Mike ends up being a dope ass football player,
the story's coming back. Oh okay, if he becomes a
five star he ends up going.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Over you're saying, like eighteen years ago.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
Hey, man, if Mike end up being a stone cold baller,
I mean, there's just going to be questions.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Can we can I throw a a wager at you,
a little different spin on whether or not this story
goes away week one? How about is Mike we're able
to coach of the Patriots week one?

Speaker 6 (34:00):
Mmm, you've said this before, I know, I think, and
I'm I'm doubting it a little bit more and more now.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
That's the one thing that I think I've changed on.
I thought they'd be able to weather the storm. This
I think continues to make it harder and harder.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
It's hard, man, Optics, optics are everything. It's hard. This
is a hard one.

Speaker 6 (34:23):
I would I would venture to say, I would venture
to say.

Speaker 7 (34:29):
It will be. It will cut deep and it will
cut close.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
But I think Mike rabel has and I think Robert Kraft,
they they have the jewels to do it. They'll pull
through it. It's just not going to be void of coverage.
That's all I'm gonna say. But I think they will
make it through. I think he will continue to coach.

(34:53):
But you know that that that leash is a little
bit shorter.

Speaker 7 (34:57):
You got it.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
You gotta manage it a whole lot differently than what
you have in the past, just based off of something
that didn't even have anything to do.

Speaker 7 (35:06):
With football, which is wild, but it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
God, they were sloppy, I mean.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
Just I mean, at this point, at some point, you
should just be like, look, I'm leaving him, I'm leaving her, and.

Speaker 7 (35:24):
Let's like let's just let's go ahead and do this thing.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Like yeah, it sounds like that's a full fledged relationship.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, Like I don't know, I don't I don't know
how to just look. Just look at it as if
when my wife was pregnant two months from giving birth
to my son, if she said, hey, I'm going to
go out on a boat for two to three hours
with this guy, I'd be like, huh.

Speaker 7 (35:49):
Yeah, but if your wife.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
But if your wife's job consisted of her being an insider,
you know, you don't.

Speaker 7 (35:55):
Really know what she is.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
That's you're too much away from from giving birth and
you're out on a boat on a lake with a
head coach and it's just you two.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Like that a head coach at some point, it's a coordinator.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, a coordinator doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Well, clearly, I mean everything you know, everything in a
different direction.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's all about the title.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
But just but if you got the head coach and
then you have your coordinators there and and.

Speaker 7 (36:32):
Got a real team effort.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Going, and then if God forbid, it comes out that
you know mentioned this earlier that the speculation know is
that his kid is that if that comes out, what
the f man?

Speaker 6 (36:45):
This is what need to just go ahead and get Yeah,
it's it's got too much bone, man, too much meat
on that bone?

Speaker 7 (36:51):
Is this is and and it's not you know.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
Again like legally speaking, this isn't I don't I don't
know that this is a legal It's not a legal story.
This is not gonna be driven by the legalities of
anything unless unless Vrabel some way, somehow gets let go
or something like that.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
Maybe you know, there's that and even Diana could say,
I know, maybe I was pressure to resign.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
I don't know, there's this that's potential.

Speaker 7 (37:17):
Yeah, that's that's potential. Yeah that's a good thought. That's
a good thought.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
I just I think it's more of a human interest story.
It's it's just these are the types of stories that
feed gossip hounds, and and if you hadn't noticed our
society is full of bitches, like it's.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Full, it's full of soft serve.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
Though as people that all they look for are stories
like this to sit.

Speaker 7 (37:51):
Down and be like, let me go through my story.
What's the latest on Diana and Mike?

Speaker 5 (37:57):
But we love story. I think it does two things.
This story has highlight I didn't you know. We have
this idea the head coaches are sitting in a film
room seeing their office or on a field coaching the
whole time. They don't have time for anything else. Clearly
that's not the case here. And then for jan Orsini,
you're looking like, what does an insider do or how
did they get their information?

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Well, you're you're getting a little bit of insight into that,
I guess. But those two things. But look, we love stories.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
I was just reading a post the other day about
Frank Abagnail to catch Me if you can, and after
doing like a deep dive, they've basically concured up that
they don't know that any of it's true. Like the
only thing he made up was this entire story that
led to him getting all these speaking engagements and making
a movie about it. But there's something that believed it
was completely fabricated that none of that.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Movie was actually true at all, which is you think about.

Speaker 7 (38:47):
It, It doesn't help that our name is Diana either.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
I'm just saying, I mean, yeah, that's you know, I
guess I go back to make a song about Diana.

Speaker 6 (39:03):
The princess was Diana one of the biggest, maybe the
largest scam scam those deals, you know.

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Speaker 3 (40:20):
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Speaker 4 (40:29):
You missed it.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Guys, In case you missed this. Matthew Boyd, coming off
an All Star season starting pitcher for the Chicago Cubs.
He suffered a torn meniscus yesterday. How playing with his kids.
I don't know how I don't know what they were doing,

(40:51):
but according to his manager, Craig Council, it was something innocent.
He went to the ground and got back up and
the meniscus popped, and so he's going down your coast surgery.

Speaker 7 (41:01):
I don't thinkniscus.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
I don't know. I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I'm trying to figure out what activity you'd be doing
with your kids that would cause you to, uh to
rip your meniscus.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
So you think he's lying. No, there was something else.
He just he just said it was the kids.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
I just think that's if.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
If that's where we're at, then maybe, uh, you know,
maybe not really.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Uh hang it up long term.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
No, I just think I already had injury issues.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I was in the World Baseball Classics, you know, spent
some time on the shelf already this year. Uh, he's
got a six E r A. It's just you know,
there's some problems there already.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
So word of the wise.

Speaker 7 (41:41):
So you are saying, hang it up.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
No, I just think if your body's given out while
you're playing with your kids, uh, you know, maybe there's
something else to look into that's for you.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Your body doesn't fall apart yeah, there you go, there
you go.

Speaker 7 (41:54):
Cute yeah,
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