May 11, 2026 • 41 mins
On this Monday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington recap the Timberwolves evening the series against the Spurs as Wemby gets ejected. Plus, the guys go over the CBA deal the Refs have in the NFL, a UFL mid game interview with a ref, we have weird Aaron Rodgers edition of ICYMI, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Monday edition, we're going to talk NBA
playoffs because we've got a violent act by Victor Webbin Yama,
and we're going to break down whether or not he
deserved to be ejected, does he deserve to be suspended.
We're also going to have a conversation about how soft
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Philly looks based on their turnout for the Knicks sixer
series that resulted in a sweep. Speaking of sweeps, it
feels like we're headed there with the Thunder and the Lakers.
We're also going to see how much hope we have
for the Cleveland Cavaliers as well too. The NFL schedule
slowly trickling out. We know one matchup for Week one
that was announced during the course of the show. We're
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also going to have some good news. The officials have
a new CBA with the league in the National Football League,
but maybe they should take something from the UFL if
they really want to spice things up a little bit.
Jeremiah Love talks Nil and how he's not going to
spend any of his NFL money because of it. And
we've got another edition of in case you missed it,
and we've got our fsr IR and we've got the leftovers.
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It's all yours coming up next here, Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe on a Monday, Fox Sports Radio.
And just like that, we are off and running here
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It'll be LeVar, Arrington, Brady, Quinn, Jonas and Ox with you,
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six o'clock Pacific.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
How we feel here on this Monday morning?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Oh man, I feel like the Calves are going to
make a comeback.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yes, I'm feeling who Yeah, let's go, it's Avar, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
All right, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I mean, we do have you know, at least you
know they're doing their part, and the Tea Wolves and
the Spurs.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Are doing their Paul, they their their part.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Excuse me, uh, thanks to that houligan, that hooligan, Victor
wembin Yama, who's out there throwing elbows and uh hurting
people in a playoff game and gets ejected. And it
opened up the door for a already battered Timberwolves team
dealing with the injuries and all that to go along
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with it, to get back in this series. And now
we get a two two Minnesota San Antonio series heading
for a pivotal game five.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I'm into it. Man, can't be throwing bows like that.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Gotta go go ahead, get them bar get him var Well.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
I mean, listen, he ain't no bitch, is what I'd say.
And you know what it happened, and and in some cases,
I mean I don't know. Victor winbin Yama is he
is certainly the new face of the league. He is
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where it is all going. He he is the guy.
And the impact of him going out due to to ejection.
They still were close. It was still a close game,
and him, you know, sending a message that you know,
I'm just not I'm not this win puppet, as you
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would say, Johnes, I'm not just this tall, slinky dude
that that does you know, all of the pretty boy stuff.
I can thug and I can bug too, and I
think there was a message sent. And even though they lost,
it was a competitive game. They've been here before where
they've had to go stretches of time without Victor Winbin
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Yama being in the lineup and they've still been able
to win. I just don't think that the Timberwolves are
a better team than the Spurs, and the Spurs are
playing at a level right now that to me, you
gotta you gotta really take a good heart look at
them and wonder if they're the team that can actually
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beat Okay see uh to go to the championship NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I don't know the argument. First of all, are you
guys surprised that he was ejected?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
No?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yes, no, really I'm surprised the el bowed. I'm not.
I'm not surprised he got ejected.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
You know what reminded me of I mean, Jonas has
always called him a win puppet, because he kind of
looks like one if you think about it. But I mean,
if you've ever been like like any sort of auto
dealership where those things are just waving around, you know
they're usually don't wait close because you might get a
boat of the face, like that's kind of what it
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looked like in the moment.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, I mean, who does he Who does this guy think?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Is he like plugs himself in, walks off a Toyota
dealership and then starts elbowing Nile's reading. And I think
it's I think it's ridiculous. The guys, you know, looks
like a Halloween decoration. He goes out there and he
just wants to play with violence, and that's what you get,
all right. And and I'm not I'm not surprised that
he was kicked out. I don't think he should be
suspended for a game.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I don't. I don't think that's agreed suspendo.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
No, no, but there's some thought. First of all, if
that was Draymond Green, he would have been tased.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
And there's some t ol fans who want that, you know, Well.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I mean that's okay, that's a bit much. All right,
we kicked the guy out of the game, all right,
I think you know, punishment is served. And and still
to LaVar's point, man, that game almost got away from
Minnesota because they made a run at the end to
close it out. But it looked like even with Wemby
out there was gonna be a problem, and that series
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has been fun. Did you see Chris Finch, the head
coach for the Timberwolves and Tony Brothers going at it
a couple?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It to you the best.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That Seriously, everybody, everybody wants smoke like there's just they're
they're going at it, and I just I'm not surprised
he was.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He was ejected.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I don't know if it was intentional in the sense
that he thought nas Reed was right there and he
was going to elbow him in the throat. And I
didn't think it was a total flop job by nas Red.
But you know, you do the do the crime, you
gotta do the time, all right, get back to the
locker room.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Can't have that violence.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I do feel like it's a little bit of an assumption.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well no, I look like you want to elbow him.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
But it's also a bit unfair, like he's one of
those taller guys where if he just takes the ball
and starts to pivot and swings his elbows, he's going
to hit most people right in the face.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I mean, you give the height differential.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And all that, like it, he's going to elbow most
guys there, So there probably is.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
An argument to me made that maybe he wasn't trying
to do it, but I don't know, looked like he
meant to album in the foul.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
That was.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
But to that point, I don't think he should be suspended.
Moving further, I.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Mean, it's just it would play too big of an
impact into the game for every single reason. I mean,
it wasn't that egregious. It was a bad play, but
you know that's part of basketball. I mean, hell again,
we go back to the nineteen nineties, man, like this
stuff happened all the time. The guys don't punch his
they get kicked out of the game. They were back
for the next one. And go look at some of
the fouls that Detroy Pistons used to give. That was
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like part of the game. Now this is a little different,
but it was still really physical. If I'm not mistaken.
Remember the Kevin McHale clothes line of Kurt Rambis. I
don't know, I don't think that got a technical. I
think that was just a common foul.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I don't think Robert Parrish got a technical when he
punched a dude.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Those are just common fouls, and he literally almost decapitated him.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I just.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
It does say by rule you'll get two points added
to your score, so it does not equate to an
automatic suspension. They will review it, but it won't be
a suspension.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
The Spurs coach Mitch Johnson did talk about the play
and just sort of the way that Wemby has to
kind of deal with some of the physicality of the league.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
After the game, let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
I just think that the amount of physicality that people
play with him, at some level, you have to protect yourself.
Every single play, on every single part of the floor,
people are trying to impose their physicality on him. I
get it, we get it, and that's part of the game.
But at some stage he's gotten chucked, he's gotten pushed
down in transition, running freely all the stuff. He doesn't
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complain one time. We don't complain because we're just gonna play.
We don't really give it. Excuse my language, But at
some stage be protected and if not, he's gonna have
to protect himself, and unfortunately stuff like that happens.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Do you think in protecting himself his reaction was in frustration,
then no, I think it's in getting hit on every play,
and so at times.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
You have to create a lead, get a rebound, get
a catch, try to stop them from scoring, protect the ball.
And so it's gotten to point I don't know what
else to tell him. We've tried to give him fundamental
direction on how to deal with it, and at times
it seems like that's not enough.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
He's eleven feet tall. What do you wanted to do? Hide?
Of course he's going to get hit on every play.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
No no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
He's speaking to a tactic and I think LeVar can
speak to this.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
But look, when you're.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Playing against someone who's taller than you, there are things
you've got to try to do because there's just you're
not gonna be able to block their shot. You're not
gonna be able to really get up and affect them
different ways because you don't have the height.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Or the reach that that's just how it works.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
And so yeah, you're gonna try to be more physical
with them, try to bump them, try to play mind games,
try to like play a little dirty, to be honest
with you, and like that happened.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I mean, think about Shack.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
There was all sorts of ways in which people were
hanging on shack. People were fouling Shack. Now, part of
that was because he couldn't shoot free throw as well,
you know that was then was born to hack a shack.
But the other part is is that was the only
thing you could do. So even with his height. Is
also as like mass and size. But when you're playing
it's someone bigger than you, that's that you have to
be physical and the and the the other issue with
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that is is oftentimes, if you know, especially when in
the Shack era, you know, you could be so physical
to them, but they wouldn't feel it or it wouldn't
look like it's affecting him as much because there's.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So much bigger that happens all the time. By the way,
that happens like every level.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I mean, hell, i was on a soccer term this
weekend and I've got a seven year old who's playing
a U eight soccer tournament and there was some your
girls out there and I literally yelled at one point,
I was like, be physical, run through her.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I promise you, she's not going to get knocked down.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
And this girl's massive and like she and my daughter
probably have bounced off her.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
But that's all you can do with that point, so
it trusts me. It is it is a tactic that
you use.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I don't care what sport, what level, if you're playing
against someone bigger, like yeah, you're probably gonna end up
trying to be a bit more physical with them. And
I can understand why they're complaining about it, because that
person never gets the benefit.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Of the doubt. Well, I'll say this, he is a
problem to deal with obviously because of his height, and
that is going to lead to him, you know, getting
getting physical, people getting physical with him. I mean that
that is what it is. But what I'd also offer
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is this is a good team and it's a balanced team.
And so when you have a player, even like with Shaq,
I mean, think about it, that you could argue Shaq
wasn't the best player on his team, and he's as
dominant a big man as we've ever seen. So when
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you have, when you have a nice balance of talent
on a team, it's that much more critical when a
guy can do the things that Victor win Binyama can do.
And I won't even dare to say that. You know,
Shaq couldn't shoot very well, but Shaq was a bigger,
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more athletic Victor win Binyama. I would say, now, Victor's taller,
and Victor has more outside skills than Shaq. But if
you're talking footwork and movement and all those things, Shaq's
Shack's superpower was he could play like a like a
small guy, but he is big. And when you look
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at Victor Winbiyama, his superpower is he can beat you
from anywhere on the floor. And so he is going
to get fouled because he isn't afraid to go down low.
He isn't afraid to post up guys. He isn't afraid
to get physical, which is crazy because his body frame,
you would think that he would get hurt more and
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be down more because he does bang like he does.
He does play physical basketball. So I think it's something
that that a coach is always going to say, is
you you mentioned Q? It's not, it's not. You know,
that's par for the course when you're a dominant big
man that can do all of the things that Victor
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can do. And that's just going to be a part
of his evolution and part of his growth as his
body grows and becomes more of an adult, as he
grows and becomes more of an NBA pro. It's just scary.
It's scary that he's where he's at this early in
his career and he's a machine like you're You're going
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to see him continue to improve and that's got to
be scary, and it's got to be putting the rest
of the league on notice.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I want to see him fight. I want to see
him throw down.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
That's what that is, what you're concluding.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, just I mean, stand behind that jab who's getting close? Honestly, like,
what do you what? What's what's the plan of attack there?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
What are you trying to people?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
People used to say that about, you know, because Mike
Tys was short, he had a hard time getting once
he got inside, though he got it.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I mean you figure at it.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
That's a long way to go, man, he'd tearing up
that attack the legs man, Yeah, I attacked the legs.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Body body, hag, gaudy body head.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I'm attacking the legs. I get you down to the ground.
You shortered in me?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, So listen, it made uh, you know, made that
series uh, you know a little bit more compelling, gave
a Minnesota another game, and you know that's fun.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I'm rooting for the t Wolves.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I just I don't know if it's gonna happen now,
And honestly, I would love to see, okay, see matched
up against the Spurs and how they would how they
handle that. Yeah, it would be It's a better serious
if we're being real about it. Yeah, no, I would agree,
So we will see how that one shakes out. By
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will get that series even all right, as we Brady
and I were keeping hope alive when it comes.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Well, you guys claim that they're going to win the
next two.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Hey, you know they are a three and a half
point favorite coming up later on y that's right right.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
By the way, And people who are complaining about James Harden,
guess what, he's back.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
That's right, yep.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Why would you be excited that he's back. He's just
gonna turn the ball.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
He's shots, He's finally hitting shot it's just rude.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
He's just going to turn the ball over. Okay, it's
just it's just rude. It's really rude.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
The guy's going to be a Hall of Famer one day,
and people are just disparaging.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
It because of him as a cavalier. Though.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
By the way, hold on, hold on, that's the whole.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
If I'm not mistaken, it was Ceci Sabathi was just
inducted into the Brewers Hall of Fame that he played
like all seventeen games.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
With him or something. That's weekend. I look it up.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I'm pretty sure I saw something about.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Like Hall of Fame. Well, there's like I really remember that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I do remember when they acquired him. It was they
were trying to make a postseason run, and it didn't
obviously end up working out well for them, But I
just remember they pitched him as much as they possibly could,
knowing there's no shot that we're going to resign him
in the off season, so let's just run him into
the ground. So the least they could do is throw
him in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
That's the least.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Inducted into Milwaukee Brewers Hall of Fame on the eight
YEP yep.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I think he.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I think he had seventeen starts, and to your point,
the one that he had in the postseason did not
go well.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Okay, all right, well I guess I'll get you into
the Hall of fame there. That's the state of affairs.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Well, I mean if Ryan bad still doesn't, that's still
not putting James Harden in any type of Cavaliers folk close.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Man, he brings them back in this series. Actually, you know,
James Harden gets a little bit of love from Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
So him having nineteen points in the last game is
that's he's on his way.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, yeah, man, he's back. Low bar, keep doubting, keep down.
That's what happened. Man, It's gonna be uh New York
Knicks vus Cleveland Cavs.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Baby. Yeah yeah, okay.
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We did have some good news.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
The NFL and the NFL Referees Association have come to
terms on a new CBA all right, so we will
not have replacement officials.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
They avoided the May thirty first.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Deadline to get that done, so we don't have to
worry about any of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
That's right, you know, I officials.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I think I think that's.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
A man like whoever says, hey man, great call, Well,
I says that no one's like, hey man, thanks for actually,
you know, getting the deal done.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Well.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I also think that, you know, maybe if they hadn't
come to terms on a deal. You know, we could
get back the replacement refs, hav them butcher a few calls,
and people could start to appreciate the full time officials
a little bit more, like, you know what, maybe maybe
they aren't so bad. You know, maybe a ninety six
percent success rate on their calls isn't so bad, and
(21:49):
people can stop complaining so much. You know, that would
have been nice, But they avoided all that. They got
a deal done, They got a little bit of a
pay bump, and and we are off and running with
camps coming up and all that, and everybody's happy.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I mean, does Dean Blandinot get a cut of all that?
Or is it just did he have anything to do
with the negotiating on that?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Or I'm not sure what Dean has to do with
any of this. And while you're bringing him to the conversation,
he's just a front of the program. I don't know
that we need to take shots or do whatever you're
trying to say.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
No, I'm just here.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
No, I'm just saying, listen, Dean's out there. He's out
there having shots. He's out there having a shot.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
He's sleeping right now. He's trying to enjoy his life sleeping,
and meanwhile you got to drag him into some sort
of I don't know, conspiracy theory. There's already that whole
Dallas Cowboys bus thing. Now you got drag him into this.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Well because him and Pereira and the guys that are
on TV, they have to explain the calls being made
by officials, and they're the ones that get the heat
on social media because you know, apparently officials don't have
to talk unless you're in the UFL where Apparently if
you're an official, rock Heward's going to pull you off
to the side and ask you some questions about why
(22:59):
you did what you did, like he did this weekend
day own to have.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Some conversations with Ricky Proll about a penalty or not
a penalty with these contested throws, especially.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
To Hakeem, how do you judge.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Out if there's a back shoulder and I'm looking at
that and you know there's no material restriction, I'm just
gonna leave it alone, to be.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Honest with you. So if the throw is not where
it should be.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
If that throw is not there, you're not going to
reward a poor throw on something like that.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
You could you could scare that works.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That works for me. I mean I think it's great.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Well, there's only one issue with that. Well, was the
throw catchable or not? I think that's the that's the
term we like to use. So I mean, a poor
throw's one thing, right, Like I would define a poor
throw as he's trying to throw you know, him upfield
and instead he throws it behind him back shoulder ish
and the defender runs through him like you know, that
should be defensive past interference.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
So he needs look in today's dan h. And this
doesn't just apply for efficient, this applies for everything.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Okay, Messaging is as important as ever, and communication is
as easy as ever, but it feels like we've all
gotten very lazy at communicating the things the way they
need to be communicated. And that goes for all of
us out there, myself included. So this is an instance
where when you're an official and you don't get to
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talk much, but if you're gonna be starting getting interviewed
during a game after a call, you better make sure you.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Choose your words wisely.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Okay, that's all I'm saying, because that is not how
Dean Blandina or Mike Peyer would coach, any of those officials.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Up and how they should be talking about pass interference.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I wonder if they were aware of that before, you know,
before the game started, Like, Okay, these are things to
be aware of when you're going to be speaking on
camera during the course of the game, things to stay
away from and things to put out there. And I
wonder what that because I just don't this is still
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a major production, and I just wonder with with those
elements being at play, that you got to say the
right things as a as a referee. They don't get
interviewed very often. You don't hear from them very often.
It's a different approach to to how you're doing the game.
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I honestly, even though it would probably come across as
very disingenuous at the pro you know, NFL level, I
honestly think that it would create an element of entertainment
that would be I think that it could exist all
its own. I think it is having having referee commentary,
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you know, during from the game, so because they're they're
the part of the game where you just can't seem
to understand how some of these calls are made and
where the origin of it comes from. So I think
it's interesting, but I do think that it is a
slippery slope, so to speak. You get caught up in
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the moment. There could be a various amount of reasons
as to why the referee would say something, maybe that
they're not supposed to say. But I mean it did
give an entertainment element that is unique to the UFL.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I mean, it'd be great if Brock here or just
went rogue nobody. He had no permission to do that,
and he said it's UFL, I'm gonna I'm gonna swing
at something here and just pulled an official off to
the side and said, hey, explain what you did over
there real quick. I mean, that would be great, but
I also don't think it's at all a realistic option
for the NFL. They're going to try and protect the
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officials as much as possible. I think it would be hilarious.
I think is that not protecting them though? But well,
I guess they're growing men. They're they're super I mean,
what are these guys? Are doctors, lawyers, CPA's, you know,
they're they're intelligent people in their their everyday other lives.
They I mean, if you can expect an athlete to
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be able to handle these situations with grace and care.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Why wouldn't we expect, you know, these these accomplished human
beings outside of the game of football, to handle themselves
the right way.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I mean, they can't even figure out the ball goes
out of the end zone, lose possession, give it to
the other team at the twenty yard They can't even
figure out just an obvious one like that.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I don't know how they would navigate the waters of this.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
They've got a pool report after the game. If there's
a questionable call, I would love it. I think it
would be it'd be if you want to be transparent,
like that's the way to do it, like pull these
guys off in real time. Why did you make that call?
Did you butcher that call? I just I don't know
that it would ever happen, Like, I just I don't
know if the NFL would go down that road and.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
You would lose the fine system right from the players,
like if you had refer well, or maybe it'd get
worse if you had referees being transparent about the calls
in the moment, then they could sit there and say, yeah,
you know what the ref say, he botched that call,
and then maybe you wouldn't see what took place with
you know, like with the Lakers the other night when
they huddled up around the referee and you know JJ
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Reddick said the things he said. Maybe if they were
talking to the camera and giving explanation and the coaches
and the players were able to hear the explanations, maybe
they wouldn't want as much of an explanation from the referees.
You know what if it could make everything better.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
What are the conversations like on the field with an
official during a game? Okay, they brief or is it
just hey, what what was that about? And they'll give
you an actual explanation as to why they made a call.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
If there's a stoppage, they'll give you an explanation. But
not I mean, you don't have time in between plays anyway,
you know, I mean if you're talking about and the
hard part is, you know, most in most cases, if
you're a quarterback and you're upset about something, unless it's
like a hit or something else, it could be the
white hat whoever's like right behind you, but you're talking,
you're looking at like sideline officials for PI, and so
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that's not the guy who's making the calling. It's whoever
is on the sideline and you're not anywhere near him,
so you can yell complain, But it's usually your sideline.
If that guy's actually if you know, if your team's
on that sideline, if he's gonna be the one, they're
gonna be the ones that took complaint.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
So it all depends on the circumstances.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
But for the most part, unless it's a stoppage, it's
pretty quick and you really can't get an explanation for
the person you need to get it from. Uh, if
you if you know? In most in most cases I
should say.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
I agreeed it the refs before the game and got
to the point of where, at some point in my
career I'd ask caw their family is doing if we
were in between plays and stuff like that, you know,
what are you doing for the holidays? Is Judy and everybody?
Are the kids? You know all that stuff, right, I'll
be doing the tackling today. Please throw the flag if
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I get tackle type stuff, make them laugh, but also
just to show them that they you know, you matter,
you're you're a person, and you know we're we're here together.
I got a job to do you know, don't let
them tackle me. That was really all I said. Don't
don't let them, don't allow them to tackle me.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Did help at all?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
I think I got calls. I think I got calls
that maybe other guys might not have gotten. Yeah, because
you get held if if you're if, if you're you know,
past rushing or even trying to run support, you get held.
And a lot of times it's just now you see
it on film, it's just not called. It's just not
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the thing that they call. But you know, if I
got held, you know, depending on the officiating crew, I
would get more holding calls in the game. Then, you know,
if it were a group that I wasn't very familiar with, Yeah,
it matters. Relationships matter.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I mean, so they can be uh so you can
groove them a little bit. I mean that's that feels
like it's a problem.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
You know if they mean communication is key, you could
call it what you want to call it. Communication is
very key, and you don't at least I didn't take
it for granted. You know, I get I get out
there when they come on, because they come on. They
had like their little pregame deal too, where they come
out and you know, the way they come out onto
the field, and then they'd be standing around and like
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while we were in pregame, you know, I make sure
that I approached the the guys, make sure I knew
what guy was was standing behind. You know. Do they
still have the referee that stand behind the linebackers? Do
they He's not there anymore? Right in the Yeah. I
remember just having a conversation with with the the referee
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that stood behind us, and if I make a big play,
he'd be like man like man, and I'd be like,
if that thing was clean, wasn't it. Like we joke around,
you know, I joke around and we have a good
time with it. So you know, you figure about the
time you get to halftime or whatever, and now you're
chumming it up, you know what I mean. And that
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was you know, that's a part of it. It's a
small part of it.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
There's also a misconception that these guys, like we always
say their attorneys, their accountants, they've got a business. It's like,
you know, some of a lot of them are for players.
Like it's not all of them are what people think.
A lot of them are former players to some extent
now I've got a buddy who I played with in
the NFL and he's now an official, and you know,
we'll have those conversations. But uh, you know, for the
(32:32):
most part, they all played football at some point. It's
just that it stopped and they went on to other things.
But they still want to be a part of the game.
So that's the thing, is like they'll they'll take joy
and seeing good plays, you know, like they'll they'll definitely
say stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
So it's it's fun.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
I mean, I just think any more insight into the
game in real lifetime, and not only it's a good
idea to me because it doesn't take away from like
the emotions of that moment, and it gives you a
bit of an explanation so you can kind of move
on instead of the fan base making it all about
whatever just took place.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
The problem is it's tough for the officials in real
time to be able to always get it right, and
especially a controversial call. It might be something where we
want to have another chance to look back at or
talk about what the other officials said and everything else.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
So well, time and place.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
But I think that would be cool to say that
to me, I feel like get even more than given
an explanation as to the call before you're clear on it.
I would say, you know what I made, The call
is a judgment call. Got to talk to the guys
about it. Not sure if it was a good call
or if it was a bad call. I could have
missed it, but I could have made it. Like, let
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me if you give that type of explanation.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I mean, I don't think that works on national TV.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I think honesty. I'm just saying in an ideal world,
if you were being transparent about because the bottom line
is call are missed every single play or calls could
be made, every single play. Like it's just to me,
it's how you you guide the narrative of it. You
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guide it. I mean, why not. You're not going to change,
You're not going to change the way the fans feel
about you.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
It's just they're just not just a thankless job man.
Like just I don't know why anybody would want to
do it or subject themselves to that.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
I mean, but it's crazy because they are one of
the main characters like there. I mean, if you look
at every reality show credits that run, you see referees
in it. At the pro like you know, the playing ball,
there's always going to be referees that are in the end, credits,
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the names of the people change, you know, things evolve.
One thing that is always going to be a constant
is you're going to have referees. So there you have it.
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Speaker 8 (36:29):
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Speaker 1 (36:39):
As in case you missed this, we had had this
conversation a couple of times now about when it was
going to get announced and become official, and when this
deal was going to be done, and when Brady Quinn
was going to get a pair of shoes because he
called it and was closest to the return date and
(37:00):
signing of Aaron Rodgers with the Pittsburgh Steelers. And we
talked on Friday about this report that was out there
that Rogers is in town, he was expected to sign
with the Steelers over the weekend, and everything was hunky
dory and we're good to go, and then Jerry Dulik
posted this over the weekend instead the following Aaron Rodgers
has been in town for a couple of days, but
(37:21):
the Steelers have not met with him yet and instead
have been talking with his agent. Rodgers has stayed away
from the team's South Side facility while the three day
rookie mini camp has been going on. So we got
all sorts of conflicting reports. Omar Khan, the GM of
the Steelers, said he doesn't know specifically where Aaron Rodgers
was over the weekend. You got one outlet saying one thing,
(37:43):
another saying another, and we're sitting here with our you
know what's dangling in the wind, trying to figure out
whether or not somebody's going to get a pair of
shoes on this show. What the f is going on? Also,
side note, I think Brady's got intel in this whole situation,
and so I'm starting to wonder whether or not this,
this entire bet was on the up and up.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I'd like to know.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
First.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
First off, let me begin by saying, that's the bed
you made, Now go lay in it. Okay, you wanted
to bet, we were now betting. Whether there was inside
information or not doesn't matter, all right, that comes.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
With a territory. So it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Like I said, I suspect something will happen before they're
mid account.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
All right, var What's what's going on with your Steelers?
Speaker 5 (38:33):
All right?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
They're letting this guy, you know, drag him around. I mean,
what's happening here?
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Man? It sounds like they're figuring out if Aaron Rodgers
is going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler or not.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
It, Jared, sounds like if they're only talking to his agent,
this is contract, right?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Is this about money?
Speaker 5 (38:52):
You'd have to assume that it's about getting a contract done.
If I mean, Wiles talk to the agent, right, I mean,
I guess, you know, I just I just I just
want to know what are they are they talking to
him to say, well, we had this tender on him,
and you know, he's not going to go play for
someone else. I mean, could it be connected to him
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wanting to play somewhere else and not wanting to play
for the Steelers. I can see that that could be
maybe the only other possibility as to why an agent
is involved, other than getting the contract details done.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
That'd be a fun wrinkle to the whole story. That's fun.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
By the way, Speaking of fun, I don't know if
you guys saw this, but this was pointed out to
me by loyal listener Justin and Cincinnati. But we've kind
of mentioned this over the past couple of years on
this show. The Enhanced Games, which is basically the Olympics
where everybody's on the gas, It has begun trading on
(39:53):
the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker e n
h A, and I thought to myself, Oh, that's cool,
and I didn't realize we are two weeks away from
the Enhanced Games getting ready to start in Las Vegas,
May twenty fourth. So if you were into the Olympics
with a little bit of hot sauce mixed in, welcome
(40:16):
to the Enhanced Games. Who's in? Who's watching? Two weeks
from now, when this stuff starts firing off and we
get to see what it really looks like if you
let some athletes get into the medicine cabinet at free
will and sort of take liberties with their body to
see what they can do. I'm in in fact, I
think we should be there to broadcast some of the events.
(40:37):
If I'm being honest with you, this is.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
The way it should be.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Stop judging these these people for wanting to, you know,
perform at a higher level by giving themselves a better
opportunity to do so. So maybe the same thing if
you could, right, Yeah, yeah, you guys didn't need it,
I do, all right. So this this evens the playing
field just a little bit for some of us, you know,
non athletes trying to make it here, all right, So
they're going to gas up and May twenty fourth, this
(41:03):
is all going down. I'm watching it. I can't wait
to see it. I think it's going to be tremendous.
If they're making a spectacle out of a hot dog
eating contest every year, why can't you let these guys
get on the good stuff and just go see what
they can do.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
And push their bodies to the limits. Fuck?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Why not? No more judging? None of that's enough with
that crap. I'm ready for it. Let's go, Yeah, enhance away, like,
take what you gotta take.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's it's now actively trading on the New York Stock
Exchange and we're all going to get to witness it.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Coming up in two weeks
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Monday edition, we're going to talk NBA
playoffs because we've got a violent act by Victor Webbin Yama,
and we're going to break down whether or not he
deserved to be ejected, does he deserve to be suspended.
We're also going to have a conversation about how soft
(00:21):
Philly looks based on their turnout for the Knicks sixer
series that resulted in a sweep. Speaking of sweeps, it
feels like we're headed there with the Thunder and the Lakers.
We're also going to see how much hope we have
for the Cleveland Cavaliers as well too. The NFL schedule
slowly trickling out. We know one matchup for Week one
that was announced during the course of the show. We're
(00:42):
also going to have some good news. The officials have
a new CBA with the league in the National Football League,
but maybe they should take something from the UFL if
they really want to spice things up a little bit.
Jeremiah Love talks Nil and how he's not going to
spend any of his NFL money because of it. And
we've got another edition of in case you missed it,
and we've got our fsr IR and we've got the leftovers.
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It's all yours coming up next here, Two Pros and
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And just like that, we are off and running here
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another Monday morning here on two Pros and a Cup
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(01:45):
six o'clock Pacific.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
How we feel here on this Monday morning?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Oh man, I feel like the Calves are going to
make a comeback.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yes, I'm feeling who Yeah, let's go, it's Avar, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
All right, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I mean, we do have you know, at least you
know they're doing their part, and the Tea Wolves and
the Spurs.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Are doing their Paul, they their their part.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Excuse me, uh, thanks to that houligan, that hooligan, Victor
wembin Yama, who's out there throwing elbows and uh hurting
people in a playoff game and gets ejected. And it
opened up the door for a already battered Timberwolves team
dealing with the injuries and all that to go along
(02:35):
with it, to get back in this series. And now
we get a two two Minnesota San Antonio series heading
for a pivotal game five.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I'm into it. Man, can't be throwing bows like that.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Gotta go go ahead, get them bar get him var Well.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
I mean, listen, he ain't no bitch, is what I'd say.
And you know what it happened, and and in some cases,
I mean I don't know. Victor winbin Yama is he
is certainly the new face of the league. He is
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where it is all going. He he is the guy.
And the impact of him going out due to to ejection.
They still were close. It was still a close game,
and him, you know, sending a message that you know,
I'm just not I'm not this win puppet, as you
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would say, Johnes, I'm not just this tall, slinky dude
that that does you know, all of the pretty boy stuff.
I can thug and I can bug too, and I
think there was a message sent. And even though they lost,
it was a competitive game. They've been here before where
they've had to go stretches of time without Victor Winbin
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Yama being in the lineup and they've still been able
to win. I just don't think that the Timberwolves are
a better team than the Spurs, and the Spurs are
playing at a level right now that to me, you
gotta you gotta really take a good heart look at
them and wonder if they're the team that can actually
(04:17):
beat Okay see uh to go to the championship NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I don't know the argument. First of all, are you
guys surprised that he was ejected?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
No?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yes, no, really I'm surprised the el bowed. I'm not.
I'm not surprised he got ejected.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
You know what reminded me of I mean, Jonas has
always called him a win puppet, because he kind of
looks like one if you think about it. But I mean,
if you've ever been like like any sort of auto
dealership where those things are just waving around, you know
they're usually don't wait close because you might get a
boat of the face, like that's kind of what it
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looked like in the moment.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, I mean, who does he Who does this guy think?
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Is he like plugs himself in, walks off a Toyota
dealership and then starts elbowing Nile's reading. And I think
it's I think it's ridiculous. The guys, you know, looks
like a Halloween decoration. He goes out there and he
just wants to play with violence, and that's what you get,
all right. And and I'm not I'm not surprised that
he was kicked out. I don't think he should be
suspended for a game.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I don't. I don't think that's agreed suspendo.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
No, no, but there's some thought. First of all, if
that was Draymond Green, he would have been tased.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
And there's some t ol fans who want that, you know, Well.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I mean that's okay, that's a bit much. All right,
we kicked the guy out of the game, all right,
I think you know, punishment is served. And and still
to LaVar's point, man, that game almost got away from
Minnesota because they made a run at the end to
close it out. But it looked like even with Wemby
out there was gonna be a problem, and that series
(05:53):
has been fun. Did you see Chris Finch, the head
coach for the Timberwolves and Tony Brothers going at it
a couple?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It to you the best.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That Seriously, everybody, everybody wants smoke like there's just they're
they're going at it, and I just I'm not surprised
he was.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He was ejected.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I don't know if it was intentional in the sense
that he thought nas Reed was right there and he
was going to elbow him in the throat. And I
didn't think it was a total flop job by nas Red.
But you know, you do the do the crime, you
gotta do the time, all right, get back to the
locker room.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Can't have that violence.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I do feel like it's a little bit of an assumption.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well no, I look like you want to elbow him.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
But it's also a bit unfair, like he's one of
those taller guys where if he just takes the ball
and starts to pivot and swings his elbows, he's going
to hit most people right in the face.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I mean, you give the height differential.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And all that, like it, he's going to elbow most
guys there, So there probably is.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
An argument to me made that maybe he wasn't trying
to do it, but I don't know, looked like he
meant to album in the foul.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
That was.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
But to that point, I don't think he should be suspended.
Moving further, I.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Mean, it's just it would play too big of an
impact into the game for every single reason. I mean,
it wasn't that egregious. It was a bad play, but
you know that's part of basketball. I mean, hell again,
we go back to the nineteen nineties, man, like this
stuff happened all the time. The guys don't punch his
they get kicked out of the game. They were back
for the next one. And go look at some of
the fouls that Detroy Pistons used to give. That was
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like part of the game. Now this is a little different,
but it was still really physical. If I'm not mistaken.
Remember the Kevin McHale clothes line of Kurt Rambis. I
don't know, I don't think that got a technical. I
think that was just a common foul.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I don't think Robert Parrish got a technical when he
punched a dude.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Those are just common fouls, and he literally almost decapitated him.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I just.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
It does say by rule you'll get two points added
to your score, so it does not equate to an
automatic suspension. They will review it, but it won't be
a suspension.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
The Spurs coach Mitch Johnson did talk about the play
and just sort of the way that Wemby has to
kind of deal with some of the physicality of the league.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
After the game, let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
I just think that the amount of physicality that people
play with him, at some level, you have to protect yourself.
Every single play, on every single part of the floor,
people are trying to impose their physicality on him. I
get it, we get it, and that's part of the game.
But at some stage he's gotten chucked, he's gotten pushed
down in transition, running freely all the stuff. He doesn't
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complain one time. We don't complain because we're just gonna play.
We don't really give it. Excuse my language, But at
some stage be protected and if not, he's gonna have
to protect himself, and unfortunately stuff like that happens.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Do you think in protecting himself his reaction was in frustration,
then no, I think it's in getting hit on every play,
and so at times.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
You have to create a lead, get a rebound, get
a catch, try to stop them from scoring, protect the ball.
And so it's gotten to point I don't know what
else to tell him. We've tried to give him fundamental
direction on how to deal with it, and at times
it seems like that's not enough.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
He's eleven feet tall. What do you wanted to do? Hide?
Of course he's going to get hit on every play.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
No no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
He's speaking to a tactic and I think LeVar can
speak to this.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
But look, when you're.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Playing against someone who's taller than you, there are things
you've got to try to do because there's just you're
not gonna be able to block their shot. You're not
gonna be able to really get up and affect them
different ways because you don't have the height.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Or the reach that that's just how it works.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
And so yeah, you're gonna try to be more physical
with them, try to bump them, try to play mind games,
try to like play a little dirty, to be honest
with you, and like that happened.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I mean, think about Shack.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
There was all sorts of ways in which people were
hanging on shack. People were fouling Shack. Now, part of
that was because he couldn't shoot free throw as well,
you know that was then was born to hack a shack.
But the other part is is that was the only
thing you could do. So even with his height. Is
also as like mass and size. But when you're playing
it's someone bigger than you, that's that you have to
be physical and the and the the other issue with
(10:37):
that is is oftentimes, if you know, especially when in
the Shack era, you know, you could be so physical
to them, but they wouldn't feel it or it wouldn't
look like it's affecting him as much because there's.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So much bigger that happens all the time. By the way,
that happens like every level.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I mean, hell, i was on a soccer term this
weekend and I've got a seven year old who's playing
a U eight soccer tournament and there was some your
girls out there and I literally yelled at one point,
I was like, be physical, run through her.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I promise you, she's not going to get knocked down.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
And this girl's massive and like she and my daughter
probably have bounced off her.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
But that's all you can do with that point, so
it trusts me. It is it is a tactic that
you use.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I don't care what sport, what level, if you're playing
against someone bigger, like yeah, you're probably gonna end up
trying to be a bit more physical with them. And
I can understand why they're complaining about it, because that
person never gets the benefit.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Of the doubt. Well, I'll say this, he is a
problem to deal with obviously because of his height, and
that is going to lead to him, you know, getting
getting physical, people getting physical with him. I mean that
that is what it is. But what I'd also offer
(11:54):
is this is a good team and it's a balanced team.
And so when you have a player, even like with Shaq,
I mean, think about it, that you could argue Shaq
wasn't the best player on his team, and he's as
dominant a big man as we've ever seen. So when
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you have, when you have a nice balance of talent
on a team, it's that much more critical when a
guy can do the things that Victor win Binyama can do.
And I won't even dare to say that. You know,
Shaq couldn't shoot very well, but Shaq was a bigger,
(12:39):
more athletic Victor win Binyama. I would say, now, Victor's taller,
and Victor has more outside skills than Shaq. But if
you're talking footwork and movement and all those things, Shaq's
Shack's superpower was he could play like a like a
small guy, but he is big. And when you look
(13:03):
at Victor Winbiyama, his superpower is he can beat you
from anywhere on the floor. And so he is going
to get fouled because he isn't afraid to go down low.
He isn't afraid to post up guys. He isn't afraid
to get physical, which is crazy because his body frame,
you would think that he would get hurt more and
(13:24):
be down more because he does bang like he does.
He does play physical basketball. So I think it's something
that that a coach is always going to say, is
you you mentioned Q? It's not, it's not. You know,
that's par for the course when you're a dominant big
man that can do all of the things that Victor
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can do. And that's just going to be a part
of his evolution and part of his growth as his
body grows and becomes more of an adult, as he
grows and becomes more of an NBA pro. It's just scary.
It's scary that he's where he's at this early in
his career and he's a machine like you're You're going
(14:05):
to see him continue to improve and that's got to
be scary, and it's got to be putting the rest
of the league on notice.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I want to see him fight. I want to see
him throw down.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
That's what that is, what you're concluding.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, just I mean, stand behind that jab who's getting close? Honestly, like,
what do you what? What's what's the plan of attack there?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
What are you trying to people?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
People used to say that about, you know, because Mike
Tys was short, he had a hard time getting once
he got inside, though he got it.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I mean you figure at it.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
That's a long way to go, man, he'd tearing up
that attack the legs man, Yeah, I attacked the legs.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Body body, hag, gaudy body head.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I'm attacking the legs. I get you down to the ground.
You shortered in me?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, So listen, it made uh, you know, made that
series uh, you know a little bit more compelling, gave
a Minnesota another game, and you know that's fun.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I'm rooting for the t Wolves.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I just I don't know if it's gonna happen now,
And honestly, I would love to see, okay, see matched
up against the Spurs and how they would how they
handle that. Yeah, it would be It's a better serious
if we're being real about it. Yeah, no, I would agree,
So we will see how that one shakes out. By
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U and who knows, man, maybe maybe the Cleveland Cavaliers
will get that series even all right, as we Brady
and I were keeping hope alive when it comes.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Well, you guys claim that they're going to win the
next two.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Hey, you know they are a three and a half
point favorite coming up later on y that's right right.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
By the way, And people who are complaining about James Harden,
guess what, he's back.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
That's right, yep.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Why would you be excited that he's back. He's just
gonna turn the ball.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
He's shots, He's finally hitting shot it's just rude.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
He's just going to turn the ball over. Okay, it's
just it's just rude. It's really rude.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
The guy's going to be a Hall of Famer one day,
and people are just disparaging.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
It because of him as a cavalier. Though.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
By the way, hold on, hold on, that's the whole.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
If I'm not mistaken, it was Ceci Sabathi was just
inducted into the Brewers Hall of Fame that he played
like all seventeen games.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
With him or something. That's weekend. I look it up.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I'm pretty sure I saw something about.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Like Hall of Fame. Well, there's like I really remember that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I do remember when they acquired him. It was they
were trying to make a postseason run, and it didn't
obviously end up working out well for them, But I
just remember they pitched him as much as they possibly could,
knowing there's no shot that we're going to resign him
in the off season, so let's just run him into
the ground. So the least they could do is throw
him in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
That's the least.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Inducted into Milwaukee Brewers Hall of Fame on the eight
YEP yep.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I think he.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I think he had seventeen starts, and to your point,
the one that he had in the postseason did not
go well.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Okay, all right, well I guess I'll get you into
the Hall of fame there. That's the state of affairs.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Well, I mean if Ryan bad still doesn't, that's still
not putting James Harden in any type of Cavaliers folk close.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Man, he brings them back in this series. Actually, you know,
James Harden gets a little bit of love from Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
So him having nineteen points in the last game is
that's he's on his way.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, yeah, man, he's back. Low bar, keep doubting, keep down.
That's what happened. Man, It's gonna be uh New York
Knicks vus Cleveland Cavs.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Baby. Yeah yeah, okay.
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Speaker 2 (20:56):
We did have some good news.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
The NFL and the NFL Referees Association have come to
terms on a new CBA all right, so we will
not have replacement officials.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
They avoided the May thirty first.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Deadline to get that done, so we don't have to
worry about any of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
That's right, you know, I officials.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I think I think that's.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
A man like whoever says, hey man, great call, Well,
I says that no one's like, hey man, thanks for actually,
you know, getting the deal done.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Well.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I also think that, you know, maybe if they hadn't
come to terms on a deal. You know, we could
get back the replacement refs, hav them butcher a few calls,
and people could start to appreciate the full time officials
a little bit more, like, you know what, maybe maybe
they aren't so bad. You know, maybe a ninety six
percent success rate on their calls isn't so bad, and
(21:49):
people can stop complaining so much. You know, that would
have been nice, But they avoided all that. They got
a deal done, They got a little bit of a
pay bump, and and we are off and running with
camps coming up and all that, and everybody's happy.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I mean, does Dean Blandinot get a cut of all that?
Or is it just did he have anything to do
with the negotiating on that?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Or I'm not sure what Dean has to do with
any of this. And while you're bringing him to the conversation,
he's just a front of the program. I don't know
that we need to take shots or do whatever you're
trying to say.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
No, I'm just here.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
No, I'm just saying, listen, Dean's out there. He's out
there having shots. He's out there having a shot.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
He's sleeping right now. He's trying to enjoy his life sleeping,
and meanwhile you got to drag him into some sort
of I don't know, conspiracy theory. There's already that whole
Dallas Cowboys bus thing. Now you got drag him into this.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Well because him and Pereira and the guys that are
on TV, they have to explain the calls being made
by officials, and they're the ones that get the heat
on social media because you know, apparently officials don't have
to talk unless you're in the UFL where Apparently if
you're an official, rock Heward's going to pull you off
to the side and ask you some questions about why
(22:59):
you did what you did, like he did this weekend
day own to have.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Some conversations with Ricky Proll about a penalty or not
a penalty with these contested throws, especially.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
To Hakeem, how do you judge.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Out if there's a back shoulder and I'm looking at
that and you know there's no material restriction, I'm just
gonna leave it alone, to be.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Honest with you. So if the throw is not where
it should be.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
If that throw is not there, you're not going to
reward a poor throw on something like that.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
You could you could scare that works.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That works for me. I mean I think it's great.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Well, there's only one issue with that. Well, was the
throw catchable or not? I think that's the that's the
term we like to use. So I mean, a poor
throw's one thing, right, Like I would define a poor
throw as he's trying to throw you know, him upfield
and instead he throws it behind him back shoulder ish
and the defender runs through him like you know, that
should be defensive past interference.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
So he needs look in today's dan h. And this
doesn't just apply for efficient, this applies for everything.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Okay, Messaging is as important as ever, and communication is
as easy as ever, but it feels like we've all
gotten very lazy at communicating the things the way they
need to be communicated. And that goes for all of
us out there, myself included. So this is an instance
where when you're an official and you don't get to
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talk much, but if you're gonna be starting getting interviewed
during a game after a call, you better make sure you.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Choose your words wisely.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Okay, that's all I'm saying, because that is not how
Dean Blandina or Mike Peyer would coach, any of those officials.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Up and how they should be talking about pass interference.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I wonder if they were aware of that before, you know,
before the game started, Like, Okay, these are things to
be aware of when you're going to be speaking on
camera during the course of the game, things to stay
away from and things to put out there. And I
wonder what that because I just don't this is still
(24:59):
a major production, and I just wonder with with those
elements being at play, that you got to say the
right things as a as a referee. They don't get
interviewed very often. You don't hear from them very often.
It's a different approach to to how you're doing the game.
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I honestly, even though it would probably come across as
very disingenuous at the pro you know, NFL level, I
honestly think that it would create an element of entertainment
that would be I think that it could exist all
its own. I think it is having having referee commentary,
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you know, during from the game, so because they're they're
the part of the game where you just can't seem
to understand how some of these calls are made and
where the origin of it comes from. So I think
it's interesting, but I do think that it is a
slippery slope, so to speak. You get caught up in
(26:02):
the moment. There could be a various amount of reasons
as to why the referee would say something, maybe that
they're not supposed to say. But I mean it did
give an entertainment element that is unique to the UFL.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I mean, it'd be great if Brock here or just
went rogue nobody. He had no permission to do that,
and he said it's UFL, I'm gonna I'm gonna swing
at something here and just pulled an official off to
the side and said, hey, explain what you did over
there real quick. I mean, that would be great, but
I also don't think it's at all a realistic option
for the NFL. They're going to try and protect the
(26:39):
officials as much as possible. I think it would be hilarious.
I think is that not protecting them though? But well,
I guess they're growing men. They're they're super I mean,
what are these guys? Are doctors, lawyers, CPA's, you know,
they're they're intelligent people in their their everyday other lives.
They I mean, if you can expect an athlete to
(27:00):
be able to handle these situations with grace and care.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Why wouldn't we expect, you know, these these accomplished human
beings outside of the game of football, to handle themselves
the right way.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I mean, they can't even figure out the ball goes
out of the end zone, lose possession, give it to
the other team at the twenty yard They can't even
figure out just an obvious one like that.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I don't know how they would navigate the waters of this.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
They've got a pool report after the game. If there's
a questionable call, I would love it. I think it
would be it'd be if you want to be transparent,
like that's the way to do it, like pull these
guys off in real time. Why did you make that call?
Did you butcher that call? I just I don't know
that it would ever happen, Like, I just I don't
know if the NFL would go down that road and.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
You would lose the fine system right from the players,
like if you had refer well, or maybe it'd get
worse if you had referees being transparent about the calls
in the moment, then they could sit there and say, yeah,
you know what the ref say, he botched that call,
and then maybe you wouldn't see what took place with
you know, like with the Lakers the other night when
they huddled up around the referee and you know JJ
(28:08):
Reddick said the things he said. Maybe if they were
talking to the camera and giving explanation and the coaches
and the players were able to hear the explanations, maybe
they wouldn't want as much of an explanation from the referees.
You know what if it could make everything better.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
What are the conversations like on the field with an
official during a game? Okay, they brief or is it
just hey, what what was that about? And they'll give
you an actual explanation as to why they made a call.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
If there's a stoppage, they'll give you an explanation. But
not I mean, you don't have time in between plays anyway,
you know, I mean if you're talking about and the
hard part is, you know, most in most cases, if
you're a quarterback and you're upset about something, unless it's
like a hit or something else, it could be the
white hat whoever's like right behind you, but you're talking,
you're looking at like sideline officials for PI, and so
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that's not the guy who's making the calling. It's whoever
is on the sideline and you're not anywhere near him,
so you can yell complain, But it's usually your sideline.
If that guy's actually if you know, if your team's
on that sideline, if he's gonna be the one, they're
gonna be the ones that took complaint.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
So it all depends on the circumstances.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
But for the most part, unless it's a stoppage, it's
pretty quick and you really can't get an explanation for
the person you need to get it from. Uh, if
you if you know? In most in most cases I
should say.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
I agreeed it the refs before the game and got
to the point of where, at some point in my
career I'd ask caw their family is doing if we
were in between plays and stuff like that, you know,
what are you doing for the holidays? Is Judy and everybody?
Are the kids? You know all that stuff, right, I'll
be doing the tackling today. Please throw the flag if
(29:53):
I get tackle type stuff, make them laugh, but also
just to show them that they you know, you matter,
you're you're a person, and you know we're we're here together.
I got a job to do you know, don't let
them tackle me. That was really all I said. Don't
don't let them, don't allow them to tackle me.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Did help at all?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
I think I got calls. I think I got calls
that maybe other guys might not have gotten. Yeah, because
you get held if if you're if, if you're you know,
past rushing or even trying to run support, you get held.
And a lot of times it's just now you see
it on film, it's just not called. It's just not
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the thing that they call. But you know, if I
got held, you know, depending on the officiating crew, I
would get more holding calls in the game. Then, you know,
if it were a group that I wasn't very familiar with, Yeah,
it matters. Relationships matter.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I mean, so they can be uh so you can
groove them a little bit. I mean that's that feels
like it's a problem.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
You know if they mean communication is key, you could
call it what you want to call it. Communication is
very key, and you don't at least I didn't take
it for granted. You know, I get I get out
there when they come on, because they come on. They
had like their little pregame deal too, where they come
out and you know, the way they come out onto
the field, and then they'd be standing around and like
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while we were in pregame, you know, I make sure
that I approached the the guys, make sure I knew
what guy was was standing behind. You know. Do they
still have the referee that stand behind the linebackers? Do
they He's not there anymore? Right in the Yeah. I
remember just having a conversation with with the the referee
(31:44):
that stood behind us, and if I make a big play,
he'd be like man like man, and I'd be like,
if that thing was clean, wasn't it. Like we joke around,
you know, I joke around and we have a good
time with it. So you know, you figure about the
time you get to halftime or whatever, and now you're
chumming it up, you know what I mean. And that
(32:06):
was you know, that's a part of it. It's a
small part of it.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
There's also a misconception that these guys, like we always
say their attorneys, their accountants, they've got a business. It's like,
you know, some of a lot of them are for players.
Like it's not all of them are what people think.
A lot of them are former players to some extent
now I've got a buddy who I played with in
the NFL and he's now an official, and you know,
we'll have those conversations. But uh, you know, for the
(32:32):
most part, they all played football at some point. It's
just that it stopped and they went on to other things.
But they still want to be a part of the game.
So that's the thing, is like they'll they'll take joy
and seeing good plays, you know, like they'll they'll definitely
say stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
So it's it's fun.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
I mean, I just think any more insight into the
game in real lifetime, and not only it's a good
idea to me because it doesn't take away from like
the emotions of that moment, and it gives you a
bit of an explanation so you can kind of move
on instead of the fan base making it all about
whatever just took place.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
The problem is it's tough for the officials in real
time to be able to always get it right, and
especially a controversial call. It might be something where we
want to have another chance to look back at or
talk about what the other officials said and everything else.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
So well, time and place.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
But I think that would be cool to say that
to me, I feel like get even more than given
an explanation as to the call before you're clear on it.
I would say, you know what I made, The call
is a judgment call. Got to talk to the guys
about it. Not sure if it was a good call
or if it was a bad call. I could have
missed it, but I could have made it. Like, let
(33:45):
me if you give that type of explanation.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I mean, I don't think that works on national TV.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I think honesty. I'm just saying in an ideal world,
if you were being transparent about because the bottom line
is call are missed every single play or calls could
be made, every single play. Like it's just to me,
it's how you you guide the narrative of it. You
(34:11):
guide it. I mean, why not. You're not going to change,
You're not going to change the way the fans feel
about you.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
It's just they're just not just a thankless job man.
Like just I don't know why anybody would want to
do it or subject themselves to that.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
I mean, but it's crazy because they are one of
the main characters like there. I mean, if you look
at every reality show credits that run, you see referees
in it. At the pro like you know, the playing ball,
there's always going to be referees that are in the end, credits,
(34:47):
the names of the people change, you know, things evolve.
One thing that is always going to be a constant
is you're going to have referees. So there you have it.
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Speaker 8 (36:29):
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bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
As in case you missed this, we had had this
conversation a couple of times now about when it was
going to get announced and become official, and when this
deal was going to be done, and when Brady Quinn
was going to get a pair of shoes because he
called it and was closest to the return date and
(37:00):
signing of Aaron Rodgers with the Pittsburgh Steelers. And we
talked on Friday about this report that was out there
that Rogers is in town, he was expected to sign
with the Steelers over the weekend, and everything was hunky
dory and we're good to go, and then Jerry Dulik
posted this over the weekend instead the following Aaron Rodgers
has been in town for a couple of days, but
(37:21):
the Steelers have not met with him yet and instead
have been talking with his agent. Rodgers has stayed away
from the team's South Side facility while the three day
rookie mini camp has been going on. So we got
all sorts of conflicting reports. Omar Khan, the GM of
the Steelers, said he doesn't know specifically where Aaron Rodgers
was over the weekend. You got one outlet saying one thing,
(37:43):
another saying another, and we're sitting here with our you
know what's dangling in the wind, trying to figure out
whether or not somebody's going to get a pair of
shoes on this show. What the f is going on? Also,
side note, I think Brady's got intel in this whole situation,
and so I'm starting to wonder whether or not this,
this entire bet was on the up and up.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I'd like to know.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
First.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
First off, let me begin by saying, that's the bed
you made, Now go lay in it. Okay, you wanted
to bet, we were now betting. Whether there was inside
information or not doesn't matter, all right, that comes.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
With a territory. So it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Like I said, I suspect something will happen before they're
mid account.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
All right, var What's what's going on with your Steelers?
Speaker 5 (38:33):
All right?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
They're letting this guy, you know, drag him around. I mean,
what's happening here?
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Man? It sounds like they're figuring out if Aaron Rodgers
is going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler or not.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
It, Jared, sounds like if they're only talking to his agent,
this is contract, right?
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Is this about money?
Speaker 5 (38:52):
You'd have to assume that it's about getting a contract done.
If I mean, Wiles talk to the agent, right, I mean,
I guess, you know, I just I just I just
want to know what are they are they talking to
him to say, well, we had this tender on him,
and you know, he's not going to go play for
someone else. I mean, could it be connected to him
(39:15):
wanting to play somewhere else and not wanting to play
for the Steelers. I can see that that could be
maybe the only other possibility as to why an agent
is involved, other than getting the contract details done.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
That'd be a fun wrinkle to the whole story. That's fun.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
By the way, Speaking of fun, I don't know if
you guys saw this, but this was pointed out to
me by loyal listener Justin and Cincinnati. But we've kind
of mentioned this over the past couple of years on
this show. The Enhanced Games, which is basically the Olympics
where everybody's on the gas, It has begun trading on
(39:53):
the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker e n
h A, and I thought to myself, Oh, that's cool,
and I didn't realize we are two weeks away from
the Enhanced Games getting ready to start in Las Vegas,
May twenty fourth. So if you were into the Olympics
with a little bit of hot sauce mixed in, welcome
(40:16):
to the Enhanced Games. Who's in? Who's watching? Two weeks
from now, when this stuff starts firing off and we
get to see what it really looks like if you
let some athletes get into the medicine cabinet at free
will and sort of take liberties with their body to
see what they can do. I'm in in fact, I
think we should be there to broadcast some of the events.
(40:37):
If I'm being honest with you, this is.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
The way it should be.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Stop judging these these people for wanting to, you know,
perform at a higher level by giving themselves a better
opportunity to do so. So maybe the same thing if
you could, right, Yeah, yeah, you guys didn't need it,
I do, all right. So this this evens the playing
field just a little bit for some of us, you know,
non athletes trying to make it here, all right, So
they're going to gas up and May twenty fourth, this
(41:03):
is all going down. I'm watching it. I can't wait
to see it. I think it's going to be tremendous.
If they're making a spectacle out of a hot dog
eating contest every year, why can't you let these guys
get on the good stuff and just go see what
they can do.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
And push their bodies to the limits. Fuck?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Why not? No more judging? None of that's enough with
that crap. I'm ready for it. Let's go, Yeah, enhance away, like,
take what you gotta take.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's it's now actively trading on the New York Stock
Exchange and we're all going to get to witness it.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Coming up in two weeks
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