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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Fox Sports Radio LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here coming up on this Tuesday edition. Of course,
we're talking NBA playoff action because the Cleveland Cavaliers have
even the series and the Oklahoma City Thunder have swept
the Los Angeles Lakers. But like usual, we got a
coach complaining about officiating. We got to talk about Lebron's future,
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what it could look like, and what his resume actually
is if you're all about the numbers. We're also going
to have a conversation NBA wise about the Victor Wembin
Yama suspension non suspension. Should he have been as shouldn't
he have been? We'll get into that discussion for you.
We're also going to have a discussion about college football.
Apparently Notre Dame USC could be back on. Are there
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going to be major changes thanks to the White House
when it comes to the college football and college basketball scene.
We're also going to have a discussion as well too
about what the NFL early season schedule leaks do look like.
We know our first Monday night football game, plus the
great Pete Prisco stops by. We've got in case you
missed it, and we've got the leftovers. It's all yours
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Speaker 3 (02:00):
Put up sticks, Good morning.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
We are.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Just you are We are you? You are one touched individual.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Man?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I don't you know what you mean? You know what
I mean by what you mean? I understand you are off, bro,
you are trying to you know, you want to swim
in the mud. I'm like, all right, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I don't swim in mud.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And then then you think it goes too far. I
just don't understand you take it too far. It's all
right though, all right, congratulations to the UH to the
Los Angeles Lakers who.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Won a good, good season.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Only needed four games to realize.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You know what that for us? Yeah, this playoff thing
this year just it just isn't for us.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You know, the the impromptum meeting we had with the
officials post game, Yeah, just you know that that that
seemed to now. I mean, listen, they didn't give up.
They were competitive, but you were up against it. No
Luca Lebron, James doing all he could. But Oklahoma City
just gets to a level and almost just sort of
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cruises and it's so easy. And it just looked so
easy at times for them against the Lakers last night
and just ultimately, you know, finishing it up a little
four game sweep and we were often running to the
Western Conference finals.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Again for the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I don't think they beat this this OKC team with
Luca Nanchs.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I don't either, really so not at all.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
And and you know what, Lebron gave it, gave it
his all, He played his heart out. I think the
Lakers played to the level that the Lakers could play at.
I don't think that they should be ashamed of the series.
This was a better team that beat them. You know,
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it's I.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Don't know what.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I don't know what conclusion you draw for the Lakers
after getting swept. I don't know what conclusion you draw
for Lebron James because they got swept. You know, I'll
leave that for other people. I'll just say this, I
think that Lebron James overachieved in this year's playoff run
for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
If it is.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Indeed his last season as an LA Laker, I think
you can honestly say, if you're being being critical but
also being sensible and fair to what took place, Lebron
James did an improbable deal, which was take a very hobbled,
shorthanded team to the second round of the playoffs. And
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I say he took that team because he put him
on his back and he took them through the Houston
Rocket series to get to this OKAC series.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I don't think that you look at the playoff run
as as a disappointment. I think I had hope, just
for Lebron James and his legacy, that maybe they could
have made it a more competitive series. But this Okay
See team is is, it's very it's very solid across
the board, from from the underneaths Biggs to to what
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they have with their skilled players. It's going to take
a matchup better than better than the personnel that that
the Lakers had for this Okay See team to be
in a game in a series, and I think that's
gonna come. It's coming two times over. They're gonna have
to deal with a serious, a serious team most likely
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in in the Spurs and and then beyond. And look,
give give your Cleveland Cavaliers credits that they're fighting.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Yeah, var var.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Put the hooks up, put them, put the Cavaliers up.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
They held, They held Serve, They held Serve, and it
took it. It took some some late late game heroics
for for them to do so, but they held.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
But no I did. They were down.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
They were down at half and and don half and
Donovan wasn't shooting well, and it was like classic Donovan Mitchell,
like I'm sitting there one.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
They could still do it, though, and they could still
get it done.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
They still did it.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
They still do Mitchell, even not shooting well, drops forty three. Ye,
what you will do about it?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I mean nothing. Detroit didn't do anything.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Have some faith, have some faith.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
All right, I'll keep the faith for you guys.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I mean I was looking at it a halftime like,
here we go, Donovan Mitchell, here we go. Just god,
I mean breaking bad, like like the show Breaking Bad?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Is he a methadict?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I didn't know that, but his game was on us
Jane was a methadic.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Well, yeah, his game was on that meth in the
first half.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, But that thirty nine in the second half, you know,
kind of covered.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Up, definitely showed a level of of of determination, perseverance,
and they were able to pull it out. And you know,
maybe that's Listen, the Detroit Pistons needed a miracle comeback
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to spark the comeback of the series that they had
against Orlando. Maybe that's what took place in this series.
Maybe maybe that's you know, maybe that's where the Cavaliers
are I do not believe they will win the series,
and I do not believe that they're they're better than
this Pistons team. But I think both of these teams
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are heading into a series where they're going to play
against a much improved next team. And I think the
Knicks are the team to beat in the East anyway.
So whoever comes out of that series, if if they
continue to play at this this this caliber, this level,
then you got to assume, you know, if if the
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Knicks close out, they already closed it out, right, or
do they one more?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, it's done, right, They're already done. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm not even sure Philly is gonna play next year.
That's right, Philly. Yeah, you're right, Like I eliminated them
for like the.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
First half to go up just go catching Eagles.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So they're at home, they're at home, resting, you know,
watching getting more film on on the Calves. Yeah, and
and whoever it is that they end up playing the Calves,
they're they're going to have they're going to have a
series where they're much fresher, they're they're they're ready out.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
I think if it feels like the winner of this
is gonna ultimately lose the next but that's why we
play the games. And just like you're not believing the
Calves when they're down, now, that's too two. It's just
exactly what we told you that it's an one's ball game.
So we'll see what happens from here. Yeah, man, I
can't disagree.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I can't disagree, but I do not if this is
going to be classic Cleveland Cleveland Cavaliers basketball, somebody is
going to to to not show up.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Now. Listen, Harden showed up. Harden showed up.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
He gave you a double double, he gave you some points,
he gave you some assists. Like, but he's not he's
not a consistent guy. And I hate to say it.
As good as as as as Spider Man Mitchell is,
he's not consistent either.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I just don't. I'm not a believer. Sorry, I'm not
a believer.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I do have something that is consistent in the NBA,
all right, So I want.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
The first Let me let me get what is that.
Let me read the quotes.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
This is from Kenny Atkinson, the Cavs head coach.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
This was before Games three, when they were down two.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I give them a lot of credit. It's completely within
how the game's being called today. Talking about their physicality
of the Pistons, we have to find a way. If
it's a clutch and grab and hold game and there's
not a lot of freedom of movement, we have to
find a way to get separation. If they're going to
chuck and swipe, you've got to be able to protect
the ball, right So he said that JB. Bickerstaff, the
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head coach of the Pistons, was not happy with the
whistle in Cleveland and had this to say and reference
those comments from Kenny Atkinson.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
It's unacceptable.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
It is.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
You know, we didn't do enough obviously to help ourselves.
And I'll start there, but you know, ever since we
came to Cleveland, the whistle has changed. You know, there's
no way that one guy on their team shoots more
free grows than our team. You know, we're not a
settle team. We're not a jump shooting team. You know,
we drive the ball, attack the paint. You know, So
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what was done out there tonight, you know, it's frustrating,
but you know we can't allow that to be the
reason why, because we didn't play well enough and play
the best of our capabilities. But again, you look at
the foul count, you look at the disparity, and that's
hard to overcome, and you wonder you know the reason
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why it's interesting. You know, since Kenny made his comments
publicly about you know us, the whistles changed in this series.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So another coach stopped me.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You've heard this before in the NBA playoffs, complaining about
the officiating after a loss by their team. I mean,
if you're gonna go in, don't you know, do the
whole listen, we got to play better, but and then
double down on it. Do what Chris Finch does, Try
and fight a guy, like, if you don't like the officiating,
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just go try and fight him afterwards. I mean, at
least he just went all in and accepted whatever was
going to happen and whatever the com sequences were going
to be. It feels like the go to in the
NBA playoffs is we've got to get the officials on
our side, so let's publicly complain about it. And I
just don't know how often that really works. And I
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don't think Kenny Atkinson's comments meant that all of a
sudden the whistle was going to go the other way.
Once you got to Cleveland. I just don't buy it.
I'm sorry. Now, I know what why Donnie was gambling
on games. I don't blame him.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Now.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
We said that and it worked for Lakers. And what
Game three?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (12:31):
I mean they got more fouls, they got more free throats.
It couldn't get times worse, right, it just couldn't get
a win. Well, yeah, I could get them all the
way over. Yeah, well, twenty.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Two oh run. That's what the Calves went off. The
Calves went on a twenty two oh run. You can't
put that on referees, my guy, like, twenty two oh run.
I just I'm sorry. I think it's the weirdest thing
when I see in the league these big ass runs, Like,
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how do you go on a twenty two to zero
run on a team in the playoffs?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
The officials, that's how you do it.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
That's what you think.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Oh yeah, they're just all in their heads. It's eight
on five out there.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Look at Spider Man Mitchell hitting those three pointers. Look
at them backing them down and getting them dunks on them, Like, yep,
officials did that. Look look at that three to two matchups,
So yep, officials called that. I just I don't know,
I understand, like, listen, you're gonna get you going to
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get coaches that are tremendously frustrated. And when you look
at it, statistically speaking, he's right. How does one man
shoot more free throws than the entire team when you're
a team that plays aggressively and play at the realm,
It doesn't seem to add up or make But also
with that being said, get the Cavaliers their credit.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Give me I mean, they made plays.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
If they made the plays when the plays need to
be made, and you can complain about that, you can
complain about the whistles. But but here's what's funny. Now
that he's complained about the whistles, What do you things
going to happen when they go to Detroit?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I mean, are the whistles going to change for Detroit?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh and by the way, I looked up what was
the Calves hashtag they had when they were going on
the runs with Lebron back in the day. Was it
like rise up or some crap like that, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Something like that. You know what the hashtag is now
for the Calves?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Let them know?
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, is that a possible put that on? Put that
on a shirt. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Let them know. Yeah, no, wonder it's too too cleve.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
And there's the city where I'm from.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
If only little end I knew who both ducks and
the harm they were.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Anything right now, y'all better be careful. You'll be singing
me me at the road, so you don't get lonely,
meet me at the cross roads.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Yeah, you didn't play the roll right cows fans, No,
this goes you have played these cows fans.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
They're putting down the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, I'm got him.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
That got him another dam.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I didn't know. I don't know. He said that was
man h.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But hey, listen, we're too to man.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
A grenade already, bro said many pack was rather for
both harmony.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That was that was crossroads.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
By the way, that's a death song people dying like
shots out.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
To the dying. I don't know that that's what I
wanted to do for it for the calves.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
As as the calves, Oh well, we're represented. What we're
gonna say to the trick?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Okay, did you just shout out to the people who
are dying?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Anybody out hospice goes out to you.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Run it back, you pulled it down? About up anymore?
Did you move on from it?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
All the people in hospice in Detroit watching the Detroit Calves.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Here, this is what goes out the y'all. Yeah, ain't
nowhere to.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Calves are coming for you. You're coming for you, Detroit.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Manny a great intro there he is.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
That's so messed up?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Many your thoughts on the Mayweather match. What do you
think you need to do to have a different Alcoruda
this time?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Both thugs are heart They don't anything like Manny.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Pa, give you a many pack drop, give you your
many pack drop.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I don't know if we have one? And this iss.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Well, hey, look you know what?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Why cannot not unt rapp it with both thugs?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Now?
Speaker 5 (18:07):
That's not even how he sounds.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Close the eye as funny as hell. That's because why
can't I hear many packing out doing a post a
post fight interview?
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Do we not have any many sound?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Just his name by himself?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
By the way, oh man, what by the way, you.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Gotta know how to spell his name though, I wouldn't
be able to just like that.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Okay, y'all did better than me.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah, well, I bet you Clark could find his voice though,
come on, Lorena, don't let Clard come for you.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Man.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Okay, find out, boy, you dog, You're gonna find you,
gonna find out. You thought you was the only warrior
in the building. Don't let Clock you too, Patty shaking
your head over clock. Clod's coming for you too.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
My guy.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Nobody breaks down the NBA playoffs like this show.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'll tell you this, baby, pack you ow or not?
Speaker 6 (19:29):
We got no chance, which reminds me to tell you, guys,
we're all over forty. We're still working, we're still competing.
But your energy drops, the weight starts to stick. That's
not a discipline problem, guys, that's biology. Doesn't mean you
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be all right, So we might have.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
A Cleveland Cavalier show today, we.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Might have ours.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Well, ye Cleveland, Oh god, we've got a alright, we've
got more out there that might be good news for
anybody that may be interested. And oldie but a goodie.
Remember that historic rivalry between Notre Dame and USC was
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played every single year for like two hundred years, one
of the great rivalries in all of college football sports,
and then all of a sudden it just kind of vanished,
and everyone said, well, you know, twenty thirty, maybe we'll
revisit it, but a lot of conversation back and forth.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well apparently.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Ryan Karsey of the La Times reports that negotiations to
continue the rivalry are back on between the schools. Quote,
it's not clear yet when the rivalry series will return
or what the terms will be. A person familiar with
the discussions not authorized to talk about them publicly, told
The Times that Notre Dame is now willing to discuss
playing the game earlier in the season, which had previously
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been a sticking point Given future scheduling agreements. It's possible
that the two schools still won't meet again on a
football field until the twenty thirty season, but at least
they're back at the bargaining table, and a person familiar
with the discussions told The Times that they were optimistic
a deal could be reached.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
So there we go. Some positive momentum in.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
The direct Yeah, finally, all the donors and alums that
were displeased with sc and their approach to all this,
they finally got to the athletic director and started to
kind of push this forward a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
So.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
That's good. That's good.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
That's the god's honest truth. Again, this was a unilateral decision.
People can try to throw it on Notre Dame all
they want, but they did pretty much all they could
to try to make it work, with the exception of
SC trying to throw a hail Mary and making what
wouldn't have been possible trying to make it possible for
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this season.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
So the earliest we can hope for is twenty thirty.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
And it feels, I don't know a bit odd that
now we get all this momentum for a twenty four
team playoff that SC would think it's it's okay to
reschedule that that matchup.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Now I wonder why that would be. Now, oh, there
we go.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
So it seems like the dots are being connected now
that since this game can't be played until probably around
twenty thirty, and most likely the playoff will expand in
twenty four teams by then, that it would only be
appropriate the rivalry comes back, and then again, it's okay
if Lincoln Riley can drop a few more games.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
In Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
So that's how this all came about. There was a
lot of pressure from people who just could not understand it. Honestly,
if we get a round of applause for the one
then the only Petros Papadekas, who is an SC alum.
He is one of the first people who called this
chicken crap by SC in the first place, as well
as Keishawn Johnson, many other alums who felt the same way.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
And again, just to reiterate.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
SC's timeline was, Hey, we're gonna win championships in the
Pac twelve until we're not. We're gonna move everything to
the Big ten. And then once we moved to the
Big ten, we realized that, oh no, we can't really
handle all of this, So why don't we drop the
Notre Dame game because we already made a mistake by
moving to the Big ten.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
So we're just gonna keep doing that because we're getting
paid so much for the Big ten.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
That's how this all came about. Like, that's the reality
of a rat It's that simple.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Well, I'm glad it's coming back. If it is indeed
coming back, it does make sense to say that twenty
thirty because that is quite a ways away. But obviously
redoing a scheduling contract with BYU, Yeah, I mean somebody
was a voiding the smoke in and well by the
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amount of success. We've been watching Notre Dame have I
don't see why anyone would would look at Notre Dame
and think that they were ducking the game.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I don't find that to be feasible.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Is there any chance it can come back before twenty thirty?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Like any I don't believe.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
So yeah, yeah, And just so people understand, again, Notre Dame,
because they're independent, they still get five games a year
from the ACC which are are obviously out of their
control in regards to like who those opponents are. But
it's not like they're duck and folks. They brought back Michigan,
they brought back Texas. I believe they've got a home
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and home with them coming up here in two years.
You know, Clemson obviously is who are going to play
through that. There's some other SEC opponents. I mean, it's
some of these schedules are done ten years out in advance.
So for you to sit there and say, like, for example,
Michigan State, where Michigan State is now, where were they
at ten years ago? Like where were they at in
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twenty sixteen? I bet they were more competitive in the
Big ten. Like that's just my suspicion, but I bet
if you looked it up, they were probably more competitive
about ten years ago. When you're an independent, you have
to schedule out that far because there's a lot of
moving and change that could happen, So you have to
do your best to keep as many of those games
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schedule as you can because you end up being a
non conference opponent for some of them. Like one of
the things you're saying changes, and we talked about this earlier,
the SEC has teams dropping one of their non conference
games because they're playing nine conference games this year, so
some of those non con games.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
They had scheduled they're going away.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
And that's a little bit of the difficulty as an
independent program is that now you've got five at least,
but you're still trying to figure out those other seven
within your schedule and how they can work for the
other people because they've got to play a conference schedule,
so it's tougher to mix a match and that's why
they do it so far out in advance.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
The part that bothers me about it is there's just
some and I get the whole look, Adapter Die, things changed,
We evolve in everything.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Totally understand.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's a different college football than it was you know,
back when we were all watching or we were growing up.
Totally get that understood. But there are some traditions that
should be protected. There are certain things with every sport
that should be protected.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
This should have been one of them.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
The fact that you're going to have entire recruiting classes
that will never know this rivalry who played for both
schools is kind of wild, Like it's kind of crazy
to think about, because if it is twenty thirty, anybody
starting their journey at either school between now and then
just won't get to partake in it and won't get
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to experience it. And that sucks because that's something that
you're known by. That's something that's become a big growing
up out here in southern California.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It's a big deal. Like that was a big deal
for years and years and years.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
You would hear it was, you know, the UCLA rivalry
was kind of there, but it was really USC, Like
UCLA USC did not have the same gravity that Notre
Dame USC did. Then there's just going to be a
whole bunch of people who will just never know what
that world is like playing for.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Po well and even looking from it from the other side,
of it.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
You know, for the standpoint of SC guys who were
like okay with this happening, I can never relate to that,
only because it's how some of those guys build up
their legacy.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
I mean, whether it's Lionard.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Or Reggie Bush or Carson Palmer who had a great
game and ended up winning a Heisman off that. You know,
you'd think that they would want that for other players
at SC.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Two. By taking that away, it makes it again.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
One of those robberies that you say, all right, like
this used to be that staple in the season we
all looked forward to and when you had a guy,
for example.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
This year CJ.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Carr, you know, up for the Highs, like this would
be one of his moments. If Jordan Maava has a
big year, this would be one of those moments, one
of those games you talk about. So that's the thing
I can never understand, either from the SC side, for
guys who had played there and made their legacy off it,
but then didn't want to act like SC was backing
out of this or that they weren't at fault for
this and that it's okay, Like they know it's not okay,
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and this game has made it through world wars, like
you can't make it through the changing landscape in college football.
Might I add that you were a part of you
made that decision to go to another conference.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
It's a I think it's pretty self explanatory. It is
very competitive in the Big Ten. They did can't get
a deal. I mean, they're making more money by being
in the Big Ten. They're historical brand, blue blood football team.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
But it does.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
I mean, the information that that is connected to the
story is one hundred to me more skewed towards damning
in the direction of USC than it is Notre Dame.
And regardless of who is the blame here, I think
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college football and college sports and sports as a whole
loses in these types of moments. You know, I feel
like Pitt Pitt and Penn State should always be a game,
that should always be a game. Certain games just should
always be a game, you know, and USC, USC and
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Notre Dame should always be a game. Ohio State and
Michigan that should always be a game.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
You know.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Now the Big Ten, the way they're scheduling and all
those things, there's actually I would assume I don't know
this for fact, I would assume that there's the possibilities
that there actually could be a season where the rotation
could potentially not have Michigan play Ohio State during the
course of the year, unless they were to meet in
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the championship round, unless there's a contract that says there's
absolutely no way that can happen. I mean, the way
the way you rotate rotate through the teams within the conference,
that could actually end up potentially happening. I would assume
maybe not, but regardless, there are certain games that should
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always take place, that should always be able to be
put on the calendar, and this is one of them.
So I hope they do figure it out.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Well, it's all, it's just the tradition, and it helped
build the sport, whatever the sport is now, those traditions
helped get it here. And so just because things have
changed and there's a playoff and there's all these other
elements that have been added into it, you don't just
forget where you came from. You don't just dismiss that.
So no, no, no, we want an easier path to
(32:26):
get here. We're trying to finagle our way around this
or that. That's that's the part of it.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I that that bothers me the most. I don't want
to live in a.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
World where these rivalry games just aren't a part of
what we discuss every week. Man, Rivalry weekend is a
fun weekend. I mean, I can't say it right. I
struggle with that every time, but rivalry weekend is a
fun weekend. I don't know what it is our weekends. Man,
it's a real pain in the ass for me.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
That just shows you that the bottom line again means
more than anything else.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
But but it can't like there's certain things that need
to be protected. They just they just need to be
for it in my mind, I don't want to say
the health of the sport, but just the reputation of
the sport to where we go. Yeah, this is really
the foundation of all this, and it feels like, you know,
there's there's more and more of this that that comes
(33:19):
out that's not so Hey, Hopefully we'll get it back.
Can't wait to hear what Petro says about it tomorrow.
He's gonna uh, he's gonna.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Lie, He'll he'll dive into.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
What other people have said is there's been a lot
of pressure on the side for some of the big
money donors who you know, hate what I mean again,
think about it. A lot of the people who are
propping up the collectives at these programs are people who
live through those eras of either success or maybe not
as much at SC, but either way, they took pride
in knowing that they were gonna if they were gonna
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go on one road game trip a year, it was
probably to South bed I mean, like, if you can
go talk to some of the restaurants in South Bend,
they will say that every single year, you know, when
they get when they've got the host SC, you know,
usually that was the time when like they got cleared
out from all the wine, Like all the wine drinkers
from California would come out and they knew they had
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to stock up because that was the game they would
try to come out to Notre Dame Stadium for and
for that venue to get a taste to fall before
they go back to southern California.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Like it was just like that kind of stop for them.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
So I think there's enough people who are frustrated with,
you know, how the university looked taking away probably what
was you know, one of their more fun trips or
favorite trips it's part of the tradition series everything else,
and they had enough because ultimately, you can only bend
so much, and I feel like sc has been doing
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a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
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Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
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Speaker 3 (36:12):
You missed it.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Guys, in case you missed it, We've got a signing in.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Pittsburgh, a signing or Hitsburger. Steelers have done it. Yep,
Chris Boswell four year deal for seven million dollars a
year ties in with Brandon Aubrey for the highest paid kicker.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
In the league.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
All right, no Rogers, but we do have Chris Boswell,
who's fantastic? Who is back to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
What do you mean, Hey, I've got what eighteen more days?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Seventeen more day?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Not looking good for you? What do you mean it's
not looking good for you? Okay, keep saying that. It's
going to say you said June first, once it goes past.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
No, that's not what we said. We said it was
closest to it.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
You want to go past June, we said, isn't it
that's closest to it.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
That's not what we said.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
That's a good move. Once Ja gets there June second,
you're out.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
It's like between me shuffleboard. You can't go to the
next person. Like, I'm what I'm June twentieth. Did I
say June twentieth June thirtieth?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Well, you got two dates, so I'm not sure why
that is the case.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
But well, because I have two birthdays, I mean I've
got no shot.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
By the way, I love how someone or our show
got really upset about that. What's that situation? Wow, Well,
there's just some information that came up on one of
our shows in the past.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Oh really, what do you mean?
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Well, not that I'll text, I'll explain.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Oh, oh, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Well, listen, we don't have an update on on Aaron Rodgers.
Maybe he met with the Steelers, maybe he was in town,
maybe he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I have no idea, but uh.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It got quiet. Yeah, it just got quiet. I mean,
just you can't be good. We were told he was
going to sign over the weekend. I mean, that's that's
that's what we were told. But you know, apparently that
is that is not the case, and we are still
telling you the conversation.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Watch him sign later on today and Jonas has to
eat these words tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
That's what makes our show great. So early no, because look.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Like you'll just sit there and look back at him
and then you'll watch him have to like retrace back
over something he said yesterday that was dead wrong.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
That's fine. I'll navigate those waters. Do it all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
So, in case you missed this, Lane Kiffin did an
interview good Night with Vanity Fair. Oh. He was just
talking about, you know the differences between baton rouge, you know,
like recruiting at Old Miss recruiting it at LSU, and
he had the following quote. They would say, hey, coach,
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we really like you, but my grandpa parents aren't going
to let me move to Oxford, Mississippi. That doesn't come
up when you say baton rouge. Parents were sitting here
this weekend saying the campus diversity feels so great. It
feels like there's no segregation, and we want that for
our kid because that's the real world, real world, according
to the article. Keivin later clarified his remark a day
(39:20):
later and said, I hope my comment comes across respectful
to Ole miss There's some things that I'm saying that
are factual, they're not shots. So that according to Lane
Kiffin in his discussions with and I just wonder, you know,
never really heard this sort of angle from him. It
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just feels like the more that we start stoking the
fire here when he does return back there, much like
everywhere else he leaves other than maybe Fau, it seems
like he's going to get booed and going to get heckled.
And he doesn't seem to leave places nice and neat.
There's always some sort of.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Drama after you.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I feel like that's how it should be, really really yeah,
blow it up.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Okay, When Matt, if Matt Campbell ever goes back to
Iowa State. He will get a standing ovation without a doubt.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Good dude.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Some people say built like that, Can I ask this question?
Speaker 5 (40:21):
I mean even the run that old miss.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
Went on, Like obviously Lane was a part of it
last season, but then he wasn't and they still kept winning.
It's like, if you kind of look at his track record,
what he's a good play calling, a good recruiter because
he finds people with money to pay for guys like
outside of that, I don't know, I'll be curious to
(40:43):
say how it goes in LSU.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
I think he take credit for their success and he's
that's his his flex Like I could care less what
y'all think about me.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Here, no hit it the way I'm gonna hit it.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
And he built he built up the program.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
My whole point though, is like when you look at
other coaches who have been up for certain jobs, like
you could make the case with what Kaitlin de Boor
did during his time he had a better track record,
a better history of success than Lane Kiffins. I don't
think people people forget he took Washington to a national
championship game.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
I don't think Lane Kiffin cares. That's why he'd be
blowing up the he doesn't care.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
I'm just saying, like the hype around, it's kind of
always interesting to me.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
He don't care. Apparently not, he don't either way, they
don't even care. I'm Lane Kiff and bitch.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I mean, it's diversity, not money. Money had nothing to
do with it.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Come here, yeah, come there. Let you forget about Mississippi.