September 8, 2026 • 41 mins
On this Tuesday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington get into the controversial botched final play of the Michigan/Western Michigan game this past weekend. Plus, the guys recap the rest of week 1 in College Football such as who stood out and some overreactions, we have a Michael Irvin edition of ICYMI, and more!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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of college football. It finished with a power outage. It
started with a major upset. We've got the Michigan fiasco
and clock management and finding an extra second to work
with and the Bryce Underwood discussion. And Lane Kiffin is
taking over. All of it is yours next here. It's
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Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's happening, boys.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
What a weekend of college football that was, huh?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Perfect weekend for Labor Day, I'll tell you that. And
that's how you conclude it. Hour and 40-minute power outage
at a stadium.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That's exactly how you put a cap on this wild
weekend from last night.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
That basically summarized the state of the Florida State program
as of right now. That's about how they feel about
Mike Norvell and that program, which a hard-fought game. But ultimately, SMU,
the better the better program right now, the better team won.
It feels weird to say that.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
But think about this.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
SMU went to the playoff two years ago, was kind
of a buddy on the heels of being able to
go last year. But Florida State's had two losing seasons
in a row. It feels like that's what we're seeing
right now in college football. You've got your contenders and
your pretenders.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Did Michigan pretend to win this weekend?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
No, I think the Big Ten pretended they won.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Oh!
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's not nice. It wasn't a good look. To me,
that's the lead. I mean, we could go with Lane Kiffin.
That could be the lead very easily. We could go
with new coaches and new faces on top of the
whole Lane Kiffin being at LSU, which, by the way, either...
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either Clemson is that bad or LSU is that good.
And if LSU is that good, which they actually look
the part, they look that good. And then, yeah, Lane
Kiffin is seemingly the real deal. But that Michigan thing,
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that's a– I don't know. I don't know how that
one sits with me.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It's going to be one of those– If you're a
Western Michigan fan, that's going to be one that you
point to for, hey, remember where.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You were when that happened?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Because I know where I was watching that and just thinking,
how did they come up with another second to put
on the clock? It seemed pretty obvious to everybody else.
And as soon as they did... I just had this feeling, oh,
this is going to be a touchdown. This second time around,
they're going to score here. And it was a great play,
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but that's just a wild, wild conclusion to a game
that they had no business winning whatsoever.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
No.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Western Michigan, Lance Taylor, their head coach, the rest of
that team, they dominated them. Outside of, you'd say, maybe
the opening drive, which people tend to forget too, one
of the biggest plays in the entire game for Michigan's
offense was a botched shotgun snap where Underwood picked it up,
scrambled around, and fouled Buchanan for a big gain. That
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was one of the bigger pass plays in the entire game.
Not something that was scripted or diagrammed, literally a botch snap,
ran back, picked it up, ended up finding.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Him for a big gain.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
But the X's and O's were won by Western Michigan,
and many of the stout columns, they were flawless in
the way they were executing what they were trying to
do to impact Michigan. And I think if you're a
Michigan fan, you're not going to apologize for a win,
but you'd have to say it's concerning to see Bryce
Underwood with the way he looked today to see a
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Kyle Whittingham coached team that for years dominated running the
football and stopping the run. And they couldn't do either
versus Western Michigan. Granted, a really good MAAC program, but
you're Michigan. You're supposed to be above that. And that's
got to be alarming for Michigan fans. And I think
in regards to the rule, honestly, it reminded me of,
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I was kind of sitting there thinking to myself, this
is old school college football.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
You want to know where your home field advantage is?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
There it is.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
They're going to find a way. Someone's going to find
a way to have a slow clock or to put
a second back up.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
And I realize in this case, it was more the
officials and how the system they used wasn't synced up
with the clock on maybe the scoreboard or even what
they were using for TV. But it got me thinking
like that's the sort of home field advantage you tend
to get when, you know, when you're.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Dealing with a a college football game.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
You can go back to the Jeff Smoker-Michigan State comeback
versus Michigan, and the Michigan fans will remember this. There
was a long second there, too, on a spike before
Michigan State got an additional play, and eventually Jeff Smoker
found TJ Duckett in the end zone. Michigan fans won't
forget that, and this was somewhat similar in that sense
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of at least getting more time. Look, I don't know
if you guys want to break down the nuances of that.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I'm sure... People have heard what the Big Ten said.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
However, if you heard what Mike Pereira and the article
that came out in The Athletic talks about, it refutes that.
It basically says that Michigan got it wrong and that
the entire process was wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
So we can either go into that and we can
talk about other college games. What do you guys want
to do?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Let's get into the weeds on the rule. Here's Mike Pereira.
He was on the other JKS, the Joel Klatschow, and
had this to say.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
It's the right call with what they were looking at,
but it's the wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
They didn't follow the protocol, which, by the way, is
not in the rule book.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It is not.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
There's a lot of ways that you look at things
called philosophy. You know that in officiating. It is something
that has been said to them and will be told
to them again this week, you know, is that if
there is that discrepancy. Don't use the hidden video. Use
the television video, which really is the basic premise. So,
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you know, I feel horrible, you know, for the outcome.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Of the game.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
I feel horrible going, listening to what's being said on
the Internet, and everybody is ripping.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
The officials. The officials. The officials had the game over.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
So they're the wrong group to say if you're going
to attach blame, they didn't do anything wrong. It's the
replay center that made this decision.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well. Then the replay center needs to be suspended or
shamed or outed. Whoever said that, we need to know
their name. We need to know your name, Mr. Replay Official.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
And that's one of the things I want to dig
into because it didn't used to be this way. You
used to have two replay officials up in the booth
at each game, and they would ultimately make the declaration
on any sort of review. The Big Ten has centralized
their approach now to replay review. So ultimately it comes
back to Big Ten headquarters. And that's where this thing
gets a little bit dicey because if you are a skeptic.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Or if you're a cynic, and I fall into that category.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Or if you just have eyeballs.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Maybe in that situation this too. But I think you
all look at it and go, oh, okay, we get it.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Like David's not supposed to beat Goliath in this case
because this is a bad look.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
For the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Michigan, who's got to play Oklahoma next week, And with
their schedule this season, most assuredly with a loss to
Western Michigan, and based on how they looked as now
almost a touchdown underdog at home to Oklahoma, which is
about what I thought the line would do, it looks
like they're almost eliminated from the playoff contention altogether. So
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you could understand how the Big Ten would be thinking
to themselves, this is not good. This is one of
our biggest brands. It's going to kill us in regards
to ratings. It's going to kill us in regards to
one of our top 25 ranked teams having a chance
to be in the playoff. And you could get the
sense that, hey, maybe the fix is in. Maybe they're
going to try to find a way of giving Michigan
one more chance. And look, credit to Bryce Underwood. The
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first throw, obviously, he threw out of bounds. To end
the game that way and to think about the narrative,
think about how much more pressure would be put on
him if that is how the game ended. Western Michigan wins.
Underwood doesn't even give him a chance, throws it out
of the back of the end zone. Instead, redeems himself,
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comes back, makes the throw that probably only Bryce Underwood
can make given the pressure that was on him. And
then you're getting a throw off with two dudes who
lay him out after that. But it throws a perfect
ball so Buchanan could get it. And we had talked
about the execution of Western Michigan, which they didn't execute
well in the second Hail Mary. No one was there
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to box J.J. Buchanan out. There always should be a
guy in front of him. There should be two guys
on the sides for the other guys waiting for the tip.
There should be a guy assigned for the back guy
who waiting for the tip. They didn't do that. So
all credit goes to Michigan on that final play of
executing and getting it done.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
But you could see how people would.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Be skeptic based on how that process has changed, where
now it is centralized.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Now it is controlled by the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
And furthermore, when you listen to Pereira talk about the procedure,
he talks about that procedure because that's what everyone sees.
So if there's a discrepancy, you go with what everyone sees.
And everyone saw that that clock had run out. And
they agree that Western Michigan should have won that game.
That's not the reality of it, but that's how it
should have went down. But that's part of college football,
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isn't it? Like I was a part of a game
where there was, you know, a clock ran out. They
put time back on back in 2005 versus SC. I've been,
I know how it feels. It stinks, but it's the
reality of, of what makes college football great. And really
any sport is there is always controversy around the officiating
of anything.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I'll be honest with you, I kind of like it.
I like that there's a little shadiness to it. I
like that it's a little grimy, that everyone's sort of
looking at each other going, okay, sure, yeah, sure, there
was a second left on the clock. I even saw
some people try and make sense of it by saying, well,
you know, in reality, it was probably more like nine-tenths
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of a second.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Were on the clock.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Okay, like, you do whatever you got to do to
round up and make the numbers work. I.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
There's something about it. It's flawed.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't think it's something that you would find at
the NFL level because the NFL feels buttoned up and
professional and all the other things that come along with
it because it is. But in college football, it just
it feels like there's times where they will look the
other way on some stuff. Maybe we'll we'll color outside
the lines of need be. Look the other way on
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this one. They looked right at it.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah. They look right at it. I kind of like it, man.
I can't say I like it.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
To that point, though, to that point, can I ask
you guys this? Why doesn't the game clock in college
football have decimals? If that's how we're going to do this,
down to the 10th and down, to your point, because
I did hear that too, is, oh, maybe there was
half a second left. Because people broke out the on-camera clocks,
et cetera, et cetera. Maybe that's part of the Hawkeye system.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Why don't they?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I saw, I was reading about that yesterday, and they
said that the older stadiums in college football aren't equipped
with the clocks that they have to be able to use.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's a week. I know. I know. I'm with you,
but that's, that's sort of a, the clock was on zero.
It was zero. The, the ball had not touched anyone's
hands yet. It was on zero. And, and for what
it's worth, if there were tenths of a second that were,
were waning, like, I don't know. When you put it
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in pause and you slow it up, I get it.
It could seem, appear longer than what it is, but
it just doesn't seem like there's no valid way. There's
no valid way to sit there and say it wasn't
at zero. I don't care if you want to use
the clocks weren't synced up. The camera angles, I know
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the camera angles, they said there's one camera angle that
You know, the Big Ten used to justify it. You
can't see it. It's not a clear view of the ball.
I just, you know, to me, I don't like it
because that's a loss. You want to know what's great
about college football? When a Michigan loses their early game.
To App State. When a Notre Dame loses. to a
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team they weren't supposed to beat. When a Penn State
loses or an Ohio State, that's what's great about college
football as well is when you do see that Goliath
get slayed in an early, I say early game because,
I mean, obviously if they're as good as they're supposed
to be, they get the loss out of the way.
You keep playing. You took a loss to Western Michigan.
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You took a loss. Take your L, lick your wounds,
and come back and represent your team and your conference
better in the weeks to come but they were given
a game and i you know i feel like that
buried a lot of leads here like james franklin had
a hell of a weekend their defense looked amazing the
(14:21):
brent prize that's a great story brent pride comes back
swallows his pride becomes the d coordinator you know brent Hell,
Matt Campbell had a great week, you know, weekend and opener.
Notre Dame had a great showing, a phenomenal showing compared
to what they've done in years past. There were a
lot of great storylines connected to college football this weekend.
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And I feel like the worst part of it is
something that stinks. And something that sucks and should have
been the bigger story on the opposite side of it
ends up being the bigger story of it all anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
It's like they were looking for spare change out of
the cushions. They're like, where's that extra nine tenths of
a second?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Oh, there it is. I found it.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Okay, but can we give the Big Ten credit for
at least putting out a statement slash the transparency that
they provided?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Right away, within two hours, right?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Well, it was about three. But here's what I'd say
is it was great in that sense.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
The problem is you have this arbitrary clock that everyone's like,
wait a second, where's that clock come from? Like, there's
another clock? You know, people knew there wasn't any sort
of other system. And that's where when you listen to
the longer form discussion between Joel Clyde and Mike Pereira,
You hear Mike Pereira talk about the fact that this
system isn't well known to anyone. So that's the whole point.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Including the refs in the game who called it a game.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
But more than anything else is like the officials ultimately
are the ones who are responsible and keeping track and
time of all of it. And that's why there is
a discrepancy. They go with what everyone else sees. And
that's what the officials are included in. Now, this does.
So there is a rule. It's rule three dash two
dash four. It states that game clock shall not display
tenths of seconds.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So this is a legitimate rule.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
What the hell, Brady?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Even though people have pushed against it, my whole thing
is like, that's like pushing against replay at this point.
For the sake of saying like, well, you know, not
every stadium has the right camera angles or whatever for replay.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
It's like, come on, dude.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
It's 2026.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Expensive.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
The clock says zero and the referees called it a game.
I don't need anything more than that.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
So let me give you the worst explanation for why
this is.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
All right. The NCAA states that this rule.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Is in place because it keeps end of game decisions
simple for quarterbacks and officials.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
All right.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
So meaning it would be hard to determine whether or
not on.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
A spiked ball or a clocked ball, if they truly
had enough time, which they've already decided. They've already figured
that out. They basically said a clocked ball, like you
saw when they spiked it and they put nine seconds
up on the board, it takes two seconds. That is
typically the length that they say they can assuredly say
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it was snapped, caught, and then spiked in two seconds,
which honestly it's probably faster than that. But if you
have decimals, that's one and a half seconds or 1.7
rounds up.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
So let's just call it a spike takes two seconds.
That's what they say. If that's the case, like, okay,
what's difficult about this then? Like if the scoreboard can
have decimals, put decimals up there, that solves a lot
of this issue.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
And it becomes just as.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Much transparent as what we saw in your little Big
Ten video you put out there.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I like that this is a possibility, though. It should be.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
College football always prides itself on being different from the NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Here you go.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Go put in fractions of it and show that and
let that be part of it.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I like the idea that if you need to, you know,
find an extra second laying around somewhere.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
If you needed it, it's there. That's where we're at
these days. If you need it, cheek.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
It's like You know, put a little bit of cash,
you know, over here in a safe. And if you
need to get to it, you can. You just, you know,
pull right out, and there we go.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And now I did, when you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Watch the game after, you know, the first Hail Mary,
and you can sort of see the Western Michigan players
celebrating everybody running onto the field, and then, you know,
the Western Michigan coach telling them, hey, get back, get back,
just in case.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
You could see the looks on the Western Michigan players'
faces change because they realized, oh, no. We're going to
do this again. They're going to do it to us.
They're going to figure out a way. I mean, for
what it's worth, you made it that far in the
game where they needed an extra credit final play to
win the game. Stop the play. Stop the play. I mean, ultimately,
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that's what football represents. Stop the play. I get that.
I just think this is a big L for college football.
If we really look at it at its truest form,
it's an L, man. It took away from a moment
that should have been a historical moment. They said that
would have been the biggest upset in the school's history.
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It might have been one of the bigger upsets, arguably,
in sports. I mean, this is a top. What number
are they ranked?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I think Michigan was 18th or something like that.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I mean, I just think that that stinks, man. I
think it stinks.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
They might not be ranked this week, by the way.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Hold on.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I'm just saying, that was an awful performance.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, rightfully so. I don't know, man. That, to me,
I didn't like the way it felt. And, you know,
you got to keep moving on, and I get that. And, again,
there are a lot of storylines out there. I know
we'll probably get to Lane Kiffin. What was that? UQ,
that was the Lane Kiffin sound. I think that's a–
(20:05):
I think the bigger story– Here on Lane Kiffin, and
I know we've got to get to break, but the
bigger story here that I think is worth discussing is
that cell phones and technology, man, like at some point
there has to come a point in time where you
have a cell phone screener, like metal detectors. Yeah, but
(20:28):
what if somebody tries this? What if they smuggle it in?
It's almost like you have to treat cell phones and
entry into– private areas of team operations like a airport
you got to step into the monitor it's got to
do a full body screen on you what is that
okay good check it in no smuggling of phones into
(20:52):
areas where you can do that to me i think
that that's the bigger conversation even than the whole uh
lane kiffin deal.
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Yeah, they're awesome. Now, was there anything... Because, obviously, week
one in college football, no preseason... You're just kind of
going out there and let's see what we got. Was
there anybody other than Michigan who you came away from
(23:44):
the game thinking, yeah, they should have been a lot
better than that? First week or not, maybe that wasn't
the greatest performance in the world. You know, for say
Oregon possibly or one of these.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Oregon would be one.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Obviously, Rutgers is the other one that stole the show
early in the week. I mean, that was an all-time defeat.
Credit to UMass, but Man, and that's where I think
when you look at the bigger conversations in college football,
the NFL doesn't deal with this quite as much, but
there's always this thought to conference supremacy and between the
Big Ten, the SEC, and who really dominates college football.
(24:19):
And that was a big talking point during the course
of media days. And regardless of what the SEC wants
to say, it's been the Big Ten the last three years. Now,
that being said, this year feels like it could be different.
Because for the first time since I want to say
like the 1960s, you've had two Big Ten teams ranked
one and two to.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Come into the year.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
And it doesn't look like Oregon is going to be
that next best team to Ohio State. You know, at
least based on what we saw their first game versus Boise.
Their offensive line struggled. If Alfred Dante Moore kind of
bailing them out, that, you know, could have been another
one of those upsets we're talking about right now. So
they're very fortunate to get away with a win versus Boise.
(25:01):
And I think there's some things to iron out on offense.
Just looking at the departure of Will Stein, their offense coordinator,
who had a great debut as the head coach at Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
But they're still trying to get.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Some things done there with Drew Meherringer is the OC now.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
And it's a bit of a struggle. But Rutgers as well,
and then Michigan. So if you're.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Looking at last weekend and looking at this weekend, what's
up for grabs is the narrative of who's the best conference.
And you've got a couple of big games this weekend
that will help, you know, decide that a bit. But
it doesn't look good for the Big Ten after week one.
The SEC was 16-0. I don't know that we have
many doubts about a lot of those top teams, whether
(25:42):
we're talking about Georgia, Texas, anyone else who's throwing that consideration.
And if people look at a team like Mississippi State
and they go, oh, like that's, you know, one of
the worst teams in the SEC, they look damn good, man.
You go back to Kentucky, I understand it's Youngstown State.
Will Stein, his debut. Kenny Minchie at quarterback. They look
damn good. It doesn't look like that conference has many
(26:04):
holes in it. Early indication just off one week of football.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
What conference is Boston College in?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
They're in the ACC.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
They had a good showing at the top. Miami's serious, man.
That's a storyline. Miami. I got a problem with Malachi Tony. Why?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Here's my issue. He had an incredible day. Stanford's not
very good. I get it.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Listen, congratulations. Good job.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
And put up a historic day from a receiver standpoint.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Imagine, by the way, if Miami played Hawaii. Given Stanford
beating Hawaii and then now, you know, the way Miami
trounced Stanford.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I mean, that's, you know, I don't know why we
have to bring that stuff up. We're not here to
take it. But at least we know where your angst
is coming from.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
No, my issue with Malachi Toney is this. He was
phenomenal and he is phenomenal and he's fun to watch.
And he had a great day, historic day for Miami.
The problem is when he's throwing the Heisman pose up
as he scores twice, Dude, do you really think you're
going to get the Heisman over the quarterback who threw
(27:22):
for 400 yards and five touchdowns at the same time?
They're not going to give that award to Malachi Toney.
They're going to give it to Mensah, who threw him.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
The ball all those times.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So I get the idea. He wants to be in
the Heisman conversation, and he is, and he was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
It just feels like... the tie is going to.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Go to the guy throwing him the ball as opposed
to the receiver who's catching the ball in that situation.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
And as it stands right.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Now, that's a little like, yeah, but you, you can't
take issue with Malachi Tony to not take issue with
Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
He did the same thing.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I'm not listening. And Darren, you won't give it to
their quarterback.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
And Darian men says the favor right now to win
the Heisman. You're going to give the Heisman to the
Ohio state quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I'm giving it to Darian Mensah right now. All I'm
saying is Tony is a beast, and if he continues
to play that he's playing, he will be in the
conversation at the end of the day. When it all
comes down to it, if you get invited, I think
to me you've already won. You've already won. I know
(28:29):
runner-ups are the first loser and all that stuff. I
get it. But if you put yourself in position where
you're in the conversation to where you get to the
end of the season and you actually get that invite
to go to New York at the end of the day, man,
like he's playing the game the way he plays game.
I'm a little biased towards Malachi Tony because his dad's
(28:50):
a former teammate of mine. So that's why I was
looking at you, like, waiting to see where you was
going to go with it because it might have got personal.
I might have body slammed you or suplexed you during
the break. Violence is not the answer.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
One more stat of note here. Hawaii lost 21-6.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
To UNLV this past weekend, which I believe was part
of Jonas' locks for this weekend.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, but I'm showing everybody. When you're called the Rainbow Warriors,
a loss is a win. but i'm showing.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Everybody the ability to persevere and to overcome a loss
so by.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
The way i'm not trying to paint you as the
only loser on this show i had an awful awful
weekend for quinn's wins only one win had a push
last night um we had some others other teams who
couldn't couldn't quite cover i had to rely on my
faithful irish that was the only team that I could
really get to do anything.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Well, at least you can always count on Lorena's drop
for you. That'll always deliver. Did you guys see?
Speaker 7 (29:47):
I actually watched some football this weekend.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Did you really? I did at Disneyland.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
I went and found a bar that had the game.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
All right. What game did you watch?
Speaker 7 (29:56):
The Oregon one.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
All right.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Of course.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
So you almost watched the upset then, didn't you? Are
you more of an Oregon fan or Oregon State fan?
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Technically, I'm a Beaver believer, but that's just because they
saved my eyebrows.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Technically, it will. What? Never mind.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I don't know what your eyebrows have to do with.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
The first radio show I was on, it was right
before the Civil War game up in Roseburg, Oregon. And
the guy was a big Oregon Ducks fan.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
And I didn't do sports at all.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
And he was like, Ducks win every year. And I'm like,
I don't know about this year. It was the first
year in like eight years that the Beavers won. And
if they didn't win, I would have had to shave
my eyebrows.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Well, they didn't save your eyebrows. You put your eyebrows
on the line and they delivered.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
And they just happened to deliver the first time in forever.
So I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Huh. Huh. By the way, eyebrow. underrated facial feature. It
really is. You lose them, and it's a different human being.
It's a whole different game.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
By the way, forget about losing them. Even the people
who now, like, I don't know what the styling is.
Is it microblading? Is that what it's called?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, microblade. Yeah, it doesn't look right. They tattoo them, too.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
They tattoo, they microblade, and they make them stand up.
It draws your attention to them.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
You're like, oh, what's going on there?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
To me, hold on for a second.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
This is a legitimate tangent. It's just an eyebrow!
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Look, if you've got something going on on your hair
and you're doing your eyebrows, it's too much. I can't
pay attention to what's happening up top of your head
and your eyebrows. It's like distracting.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Dudes who arch their eyebrows. It's more prevalent than you
would think.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
It's the same thing with nose piercings. I'm like, look,
if you're piercing your nose, you're taking away from your face.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Your ear is one thing.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
It's on the side. It's kind of a side profile.
You see it maybe as a compliment or accessory. You
start piercing your nose. It's like, I can't stop. Is
that a stud?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
What is that? Is that a pimple? What is that
in there? It starts becoming distracting.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Gold pimple. It is.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
My ex, my ex's parents, my ex's parents owned a
owned a salon. And one of the one of the
features in the salon was the dad used to do
the eyebrow tattooing or whatever they want to call it
to where you put the permanent eyebrow on. And a
lady walked out of there and it looked like she had.
(32:21):
been shot and i asked i asked my girlfriend i
was like you charge for that and she's like yeah
what's that like face is swollen uh completely red micro
abrasions awful just awful.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
But yeah it's a weird blood that blood dip where
they just cut your whole face open like they're irrigating
your face like like the lawn you don't even know
how when they about the food Plant all them seeds
in the lawn. They poke all them holes in the mud. Yeah, rototiller.
That's what they do. Yeah, you rototill. And we go
(32:55):
into these salons getting holes in their face. It's awful.
Kim Kardashian made it famous. I don't know what it is,
but it looks really, really painful. Be bloodied up. Walk
out like somebody whooped your ass all over the place. Like, oh,
it's just my beauty day. No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Have you guys ever gotten your eyebrows waxed? There's some
guys who do that.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I don't get it. Bruh, it's the same difference. If
you do that, you know. All I'm saying, man, it's
just a hot dog. Yeah. And speaking of just a
hot dog for your tailgating pleasures, you want to get there.
You want to do it the right way. Make sure
you do it in a Nissan. Yeah. The frontier to
2026 Nissan frontier. It's built for the work week. I'm
(33:41):
ready to load you up on them tailgates on the weekends.
And well, If you aren't your eyebrows, you need not apply.
All right. Well, then again, I guess you can get
to it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
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Speaker 3 (35:03):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Guys, in case you missed it, you know that story
we've been monitoring in New England.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
With the Patriots? Which one's that?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
The Christian Gonzalez contract situation.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Oh, gosh, gosh, gosh.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, things have been sorted out and finalized as Christian Gonzalez.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Somebody got paid for their services.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
A few hours ago, Gonzalez agreed to terms on a four-year.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Would be a force in the way.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
$ 135 million extension that according to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler late
on Monday night, the deal includes $ 102 million guaranteed. Gonzalez
is now the highest paid cornerback in NFL history. So
he passes Devin Witherspoon, who I think they share the
(36:05):
same agent, if I'm not mistaken. So that good for
that agency for getting those done. But this was speculation
that maybe this would bleed into the season and Which,
by the way, kicks off tomorrow. So at least they
got this taken care of. So, again, nothing to see here.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Well, you know, I thought to myself, I guess we
have an idea of how owners view talent. You know
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
One person ready to perform gets, what, $ 140 offered to them?
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Oh, no.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Another one gets $ 100 million offered to them for their service.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Well, that depends on the timing and place and probably
services rendered.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Okay. Right?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I mean, I'm just saying, if you do a five-year contract, six-year,
seven-year contract, and you're giving the first, what, I don't know,
maybe you make the whole contract guaranteed. I'm just saying,
I might value the other services more than the guy
making interceptions or in coverage.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
But we've got a body of work from Christian Gonzalez.
We don't have that from.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
That is very true. That is very true. Now, that's fair.
That is fair, but man, the gap in... Actual compensation
for talent is, wow, $ 140 versus $ 100- plus million? I'm just saying, man.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Did you hear Michael Irvin's thoughts on the Jed York situation?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
What'd he say? Let's hear what he said.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Michael Irvin was on with Neon. He was on with Neon,
the streamer. And he tried to explain away... the situation
with Jed York.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
He got divorced five, six months ago. Yeah. And I'm like, man,
come on, man.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Is that really a crime?
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You know, that man ain't alone.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Everybody's paying for it.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Here's my take. You got a girlfriend? What? You got
a girlfriend? No, I don't have a girlfriend. You take
her out to eat? You paying for it? You pay
for it regardless. You buying a gift? Right, so what
are we doing? You taking her for food and then
taking her home?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Why we got to embarrass this man for $ 140?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
He's not... It was $ 140? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
So, yeah. And that's another thing, too. So people think,
you're a billionaire.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Why don't you go to high-end places?
Speaker 4 (38:19):
The high-end places get you in.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Trouble all the time. Tell them, Mike.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
I was going to say, is that from experience?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Hell yeah. Hell yeah. We were in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
We remember what happened at that restaurant or hotel, whatever
was going on there with him.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Who did you say the streamer was?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Neon? Neon. Yeah, Neon.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
The hell?
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
N3 on.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
All I know is Mike went in line, though. What's
the difference? I mean, for real. One's a hooker. The
other's your girlfriend. Yeah, but let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
One's selling their body for that.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Let me tell you something. I won't even name the
name of the dinner, but it was a Hall of
Fame dinner. And I was there, and let me tell
you something. There'd be dudes up in there with work, bruh.
They'd be up in there with work. You're not getting
her any other way, sir. I'm sorry. I don't mean
(39:23):
to judge you, but judging by the way she looks
and we're in Vegas, not only I'm going to say
I'm going to put in your favor is y'all match.
Y'all got matching colors on, but that's the only thing
I'm giving you. All I'm saying is, if you're selling
your body, I get it, but... If I take you
(39:43):
out to eat and we end up getting it in, like,
what's the difference? I mean. That's why I feel like
Mike is right. Like, you swooner and whiner and diner.
The one's legal, one's not. But why? Well, I mean.
Why do I have, like.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Taxes.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Taxes. If he had a bag of McDonald's with him
or some Chick-fil-A or any type of meal with him
in the seat ready to go. Maybe that's the move.
I was just here to have a picnic. Are you
taking this man to jail for solicitation of prostitution?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
If he brought a bag of food and just said, listen,
I just wanted to have lunch with somebody.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Imagine if you had a bag of food and Bibles.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
So your advice is to always pack a lunch just
in case.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
You— Good, good. And a bag of Bibles. Real hard
hat lunch pail guy. Like, if you break out some
food and some Bibles— Some whipped cream and peanut butter?
And you sit there and you say, I'm here to
have lunch and break bread with her in the name
of the Lord Jesus Christ. You're not going to jail.
You're not going to jail. Lorraine, you need help. You
(40:44):
got to.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
Those are just easy things to eat in the car.
You know, whipped cream and peanut butter.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Good to go. They're also good for.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Whipped cream has to be stored in a cool place, right?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Unless it is consumed quickly. And you also know where
they put peanut butter, right? Use those for them dog toys.
They cure hiccups, too, you know. Oh, no.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Oh, my.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Extra peanutty. Hit that dog.
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Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's happening, boys.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
What a weekend of college football that was, huh?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Perfect weekend for Labor Day, I'll tell you that. And
that's how you conclude it. Hour and 40-minute power outage
at a stadium.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That's exactly how you put a cap on this wild
weekend from last night.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
That basically summarized the state of the Florida State program
as of right now. That's about how they feel about
Mike Norvell and that program, which a hard-fought game. But ultimately, SMU,
the better the better program right now, the better team won.
It feels weird to say that.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
But think about this.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
SMU went to the playoff two years ago, was kind
of a buddy on the heels of being able to
go last year. But Florida State's had two losing seasons
in a row. It feels like that's what we're seeing
right now in college football. You've got your contenders and
your pretenders.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Did Michigan pretend to win this weekend?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
No, I think the Big Ten pretended they won.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Oh!
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's not nice. It wasn't a good look. To me,
that's the lead. I mean, we could go with Lane Kiffin.
That could be the lead very easily. We could go
with new coaches and new faces on top of the
whole Lane Kiffin being at LSU, which, by the way, either...
(02:51):
either Clemson is that bad or LSU is that good.
And if LSU is that good, which they actually look
the part, they look that good. And then, yeah, Lane
Kiffin is seemingly the real deal. But that Michigan thing,
(03:14):
that's a– I don't know. I don't know how that
one sits with me.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It's going to be one of those– If you're a
Western Michigan fan, that's going to be one that you
point to for, hey, remember where.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You were when that happened?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Because I know where I was watching that and just thinking,
how did they come up with another second to put
on the clock? It seemed pretty obvious to everybody else.
And as soon as they did... I just had this feeling, oh,
this is going to be a touchdown. This second time around,
they're going to score here. And it was a great play,
(03:48):
but that's just a wild, wild conclusion to a game
that they had no business winning whatsoever.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
No.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Western Michigan, Lance Taylor, their head coach, the rest of
that team, they dominated them. Outside of, you'd say, maybe
the opening drive, which people tend to forget too, one
of the biggest plays in the entire game for Michigan's
offense was a botched shotgun snap where Underwood picked it up,
scrambled around, and fouled Buchanan for a big gain. That
(04:17):
was one of the bigger pass plays in the entire game.
Not something that was scripted or diagrammed, literally a botch snap,
ran back, picked it up, ended up finding.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Him for a big gain.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
But the X's and O's were won by Western Michigan,
and many of the stout columns, they were flawless in
the way they were executing what they were trying to
do to impact Michigan. And I think if you're a
Michigan fan, you're not going to apologize for a win,
but you'd have to say it's concerning to see Bryce
Underwood with the way he looked today to see a
(04:49):
Kyle Whittingham coached team that for years dominated running the
football and stopping the run. And they couldn't do either
versus Western Michigan. Granted, a really good MAAC program, but
you're Michigan. You're supposed to be above that. And that's
got to be alarming for Michigan fans. And I think
in regards to the rule, honestly, it reminded me of,
(05:11):
I was kind of sitting there thinking to myself, this
is old school college football.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
You want to know where your home field advantage is?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
There it is.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
They're going to find a way. Someone's going to find
a way to have a slow clock or to put
a second back up.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
And I realize in this case, it was more the
officials and how the system they used wasn't synced up
with the clock on maybe the scoreboard or even what
they were using for TV. But it got me thinking
like that's the sort of home field advantage you tend
to get when, you know, when you're.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Dealing with a a college football game.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
You can go back to the Jeff Smoker-Michigan State comeback
versus Michigan, and the Michigan fans will remember this. There
was a long second there, too, on a spike before
Michigan State got an additional play, and eventually Jeff Smoker
found TJ Duckett in the end zone. Michigan fans won't
forget that, and this was somewhat similar in that sense
(06:07):
of at least getting more time. Look, I don't know
if you guys want to break down the nuances of that.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I'm sure... People have heard what the Big Ten said.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
However, if you heard what Mike Pereira and the article
that came out in The Athletic talks about, it refutes that.
It basically says that Michigan got it wrong and that
the entire process was wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
So we can either go into that and we can
talk about other college games. What do you guys want
to do?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Let's get into the weeds on the rule. Here's Mike Pereira.
He was on the other JKS, the Joel Klatschow, and
had this to say.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
It's the right call with what they were looking at,
but it's the wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
They didn't follow the protocol, which, by the way, is
not in the rule book.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It is not.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
There's a lot of ways that you look at things
called philosophy. You know that in officiating. It is something
that has been said to them and will be told
to them again this week, you know, is that if
there is that discrepancy. Don't use the hidden video. Use
the television video, which really is the basic premise. So,
(07:10):
you know, I feel horrible, you know, for the outcome.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Of the game.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
I feel horrible going, listening to what's being said on
the Internet, and everybody is ripping.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
The officials. The officials. The officials had the game over.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
So they're the wrong group to say if you're going
to attach blame, they didn't do anything wrong. It's the
replay center that made this decision.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well. Then the replay center needs to be suspended or
shamed or outed. Whoever said that, we need to know
their name. We need to know your name, Mr. Replay Official.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
And that's one of the things I want to dig
into because it didn't used to be this way. You
used to have two replay officials up in the booth
at each game, and they would ultimately make the declaration
on any sort of review. The Big Ten has centralized
their approach now to replay review. So ultimately it comes
back to Big Ten headquarters. And that's where this thing
gets a little bit dicey because if you are a skeptic.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Or if you're a cynic, and I fall into that category.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Or if you just have eyeballs.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Maybe in that situation this too. But I think you
all look at it and go, oh, okay, we get it.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Like David's not supposed to beat Goliath in this case
because this is a bad look.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
For the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Michigan, who's got to play Oklahoma next week, And with
their schedule this season, most assuredly with a loss to
Western Michigan, and based on how they looked as now
almost a touchdown underdog at home to Oklahoma, which is
about what I thought the line would do, it looks
like they're almost eliminated from the playoff contention altogether. So
(08:48):
you could understand how the Big Ten would be thinking
to themselves, this is not good. This is one of
our biggest brands. It's going to kill us in regards
to ratings. It's going to kill us in regards to
one of our top 25 ranked teams having a chance
to be in the playoff. And you could get the
sense that, hey, maybe the fix is in. Maybe they're
going to try to find a way of giving Michigan
one more chance. And look, credit to Bryce Underwood. The
(09:10):
first throw, obviously, he threw out of bounds. To end
the game that way and to think about the narrative,
think about how much more pressure would be put on
him if that is how the game ended. Western Michigan wins.
Underwood doesn't even give him a chance, throws it out
of the back of the end zone. Instead, redeems himself,
(09:30):
comes back, makes the throw that probably only Bryce Underwood
can make given the pressure that was on him. And
then you're getting a throw off with two dudes who
lay him out after that. But it throws a perfect
ball so Buchanan could get it. And we had talked
about the execution of Western Michigan, which they didn't execute
well in the second Hail Mary. No one was there
(09:50):
to box J.J. Buchanan out. There always should be a
guy in front of him. There should be two guys
on the sides for the other guys waiting for the tip.
There should be a guy assigned for the back guy
who waiting for the tip. They didn't do that. So
all credit goes to Michigan on that final play of
executing and getting it done.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
But you could see how people would.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Be skeptic based on how that process has changed, where
now it is centralized.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Now it is controlled by the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
And furthermore, when you listen to Pereira talk about the procedure,
he talks about that procedure because that's what everyone sees.
So if there's a discrepancy, you go with what everyone sees.
And everyone saw that that clock had run out. And
they agree that Western Michigan should have won that game.
That's not the reality of it, but that's how it
should have went down. But that's part of college football,
(10:36):
isn't it? Like I was a part of a game
where there was, you know, a clock ran out. They
put time back on back in 2005 versus SC. I've been,
I know how it feels. It stinks, but it's the
reality of, of what makes college football great. And really
any sport is there is always controversy around the officiating
of anything.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I'll be honest with you, I kind of like it.
I like that there's a little shadiness to it. I
like that it's a little grimy, that everyone's sort of
looking at each other going, okay, sure, yeah, sure, there
was a second left on the clock. I even saw
some people try and make sense of it by saying, well,
you know, in reality, it was probably more like nine-tenths
(11:17):
of a second.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Were on the clock.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Okay, like, you do whatever you got to do to
round up and make the numbers work. I.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
There's something about it. It's flawed.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't think it's something that you would find at
the NFL level because the NFL feels buttoned up and
professional and all the other things that come along with
it because it is. But in college football, it just
it feels like there's times where they will look the
other way on some stuff. Maybe we'll we'll color outside
the lines of need be. Look the other way on
(11:49):
this one. They looked right at it.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah. They look right at it. I kind of like it, man.
I can't say I like it.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
To that point, though, to that point, can I ask
you guys this? Why doesn't the game clock in college
football have decimals? If that's how we're going to do this,
down to the 10th and down, to your point, because
I did hear that too, is, oh, maybe there was
half a second left. Because people broke out the on-camera clocks,
et cetera, et cetera. Maybe that's part of the Hawkeye system.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Why don't they?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I saw, I was reading about that yesterday, and they
said that the older stadiums in college football aren't equipped
with the clocks that they have to be able to use.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's a week. I know. I know. I'm with you,
but that's, that's sort of a, the clock was on zero.
It was zero. The, the ball had not touched anyone's
hands yet. It was on zero. And, and for what
it's worth, if there were tenths of a second that were,
were waning, like, I don't know. When you put it
(12:52):
in pause and you slow it up, I get it.
It could seem, appear longer than what it is, but
it just doesn't seem like there's no valid way. There's
no valid way to sit there and say it wasn't
at zero. I don't care if you want to use
the clocks weren't synced up. The camera angles, I know
(13:13):
the camera angles, they said there's one camera angle that
You know, the Big Ten used to justify it. You
can't see it. It's not a clear view of the ball.
I just, you know, to me, I don't like it
because that's a loss. You want to know what's great
about college football? When a Michigan loses their early game.
To App State. When a Notre Dame loses. to a
(13:36):
team they weren't supposed to beat. When a Penn State
loses or an Ohio State, that's what's great about college
football as well is when you do see that Goliath
get slayed in an early, I say early game because,
I mean, obviously if they're as good as they're supposed
to be, they get the loss out of the way.
You keep playing. You took a loss to Western Michigan.
(14:00):
You took a loss. Take your L, lick your wounds,
and come back and represent your team and your conference
better in the weeks to come but they were given
a game and i you know i feel like that
buried a lot of leads here like james franklin had
a hell of a weekend their defense looked amazing the
(14:21):
brent prize that's a great story brent pride comes back
swallows his pride becomes the d coordinator you know brent Hell,
Matt Campbell had a great week, you know, weekend and opener.
Notre Dame had a great showing, a phenomenal showing compared
to what they've done in years past. There were a
lot of great storylines connected to college football this weekend.
(14:45):
And I feel like the worst part of it is
something that stinks. And something that sucks and should have
been the bigger story on the opposite side of it
ends up being the bigger story of it all anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
It's like they were looking for spare change out of
the cushions. They're like, where's that extra nine tenths of
a second?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Oh, there it is. I found it.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Okay, but can we give the Big Ten credit for
at least putting out a statement slash the transparency that
they provided?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Right away, within two hours, right?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Well, it was about three. But here's what I'd say
is it was great in that sense.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
The problem is you have this arbitrary clock that everyone's like,
wait a second, where's that clock come from? Like, there's
another clock? You know, people knew there wasn't any sort
of other system. And that's where when you listen to
the longer form discussion between Joel Clyde and Mike Pereira,
You hear Mike Pereira talk about the fact that this
system isn't well known to anyone. So that's the whole point.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Including the refs in the game who called it a game.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
But more than anything else is like the officials ultimately
are the ones who are responsible and keeping track and
time of all of it. And that's why there is
a discrepancy. They go with what everyone else sees. And
that's what the officials are included in. Now, this does.
So there is a rule. It's rule three dash two
dash four. It states that game clock shall not display
tenths of seconds.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So this is a legitimate rule.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
What the hell, Brady?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Even though people have pushed against it, my whole thing
is like, that's like pushing against replay at this point.
For the sake of saying like, well, you know, not
every stadium has the right camera angles or whatever for replay.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
It's like, come on, dude.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
It's 2026.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Expensive.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
The clock says zero and the referees called it a game.
I don't need anything more than that.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
So let me give you the worst explanation for why
this is.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
All right. The NCAA states that this rule.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Is in place because it keeps end of game decisions
simple for quarterbacks and officials.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
All right.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
So meaning it would be hard to determine whether or
not on.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
A spiked ball or a clocked ball, if they truly
had enough time, which they've already decided. They've already figured
that out. They basically said a clocked ball, like you
saw when they spiked it and they put nine seconds
up on the board, it takes two seconds. That is
typically the length that they say they can assuredly say
(17:09):
it was snapped, caught, and then spiked in two seconds,
which honestly it's probably faster than that. But if you
have decimals, that's one and a half seconds or 1.7
rounds up.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
So let's just call it a spike takes two seconds.
That's what they say. If that's the case, like, okay,
what's difficult about this then? Like if the scoreboard can
have decimals, put decimals up there, that solves a lot
of this issue.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
And it becomes just as.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Much transparent as what we saw in your little Big
Ten video you put out there.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I like that this is a possibility, though. It should be.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
College football always prides itself on being different from the NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Here you go.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Go put in fractions of it and show that and
let that be part of it.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I like the idea that if you need to, you know,
find an extra second laying around somewhere.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
If you needed it, it's there. That's where we're at
these days. If you need it, cheek.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
It's like You know, put a little bit of cash,
you know, over here in a safe. And if you
need to get to it, you can. You just, you know,
pull right out, and there we go.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And now I did, when you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Watch the game after, you know, the first Hail Mary,
and you can sort of see the Western Michigan players
celebrating everybody running onto the field, and then, you know,
the Western Michigan coach telling them, hey, get back, get back,
just in case.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
You could see the looks on the Western Michigan players'
faces change because they realized, oh, no. We're going to
do this again. They're going to do it to us.
They're going to figure out a way. I mean, for
what it's worth, you made it that far in the
game where they needed an extra credit final play to
win the game. Stop the play. Stop the play. I mean, ultimately,
(18:59):
that's what football represents. Stop the play. I get that.
I just think this is a big L for college football.
If we really look at it at its truest form,
it's an L, man. It took away from a moment
that should have been a historical moment. They said that
would have been the biggest upset in the school's history.
(19:22):
It might have been one of the bigger upsets, arguably,
in sports. I mean, this is a top. What number
are they ranked?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I think Michigan was 18th or something like that.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I mean, I just think that that stinks, man. I
think it stinks.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
They might not be ranked this week, by the way.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Hold on.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I'm just saying, that was an awful performance.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, rightfully so. I don't know, man. That, to me,
I didn't like the way it felt. And, you know,
you got to keep moving on, and I get that. And, again,
there are a lot of storylines out there. I know
we'll probably get to Lane Kiffin. What was that? UQ,
that was the Lane Kiffin sound. I think that's a–
(20:05):
I think the bigger story– Here on Lane Kiffin, and
I know we've got to get to break, but the
bigger story here that I think is worth discussing is
that cell phones and technology, man, like at some point
there has to come a point in time where you
have a cell phone screener, like metal detectors. Yeah, but
(20:28):
what if somebody tries this? What if they smuggle it in?
It's almost like you have to treat cell phones and
entry into– private areas of team operations like a airport
you got to step into the monitor it's got to
do a full body screen on you what is that
okay good check it in no smuggling of phones into
(20:52):
areas where you can do that to me i think
that that's the bigger conversation even than the whole uh
lane kiffin deal.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
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Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, they're awesome. Now, was there anything... Because, obviously, week
one in college football, no preseason... You're just kind of
going out there and let's see what we got. Was
there anybody other than Michigan who you came away from
(23:44):
the game thinking, yeah, they should have been a lot
better than that? First week or not, maybe that wasn't
the greatest performance in the world. You know, for say
Oregon possibly or one of these.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Oregon would be one.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Obviously, Rutgers is the other one that stole the show
early in the week. I mean, that was an all-time defeat.
Credit to UMass, but Man, and that's where I think
when you look at the bigger conversations in college football,
the NFL doesn't deal with this quite as much, but
there's always this thought to conference supremacy and between the
Big Ten, the SEC, and who really dominates college football.
(24:19):
And that was a big talking point during the course
of media days. And regardless of what the SEC wants
to say, it's been the Big Ten the last three years. Now,
that being said, this year feels like it could be different.
Because for the first time since I want to say
like the 1960s, you've had two Big Ten teams ranked
one and two to.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Come into the year.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
And it doesn't look like Oregon is going to be
that next best team to Ohio State. You know, at
least based on what we saw their first game versus Boise.
Their offensive line struggled. If Alfred Dante Moore kind of
bailing them out, that, you know, could have been another
one of those upsets we're talking about right now. So
they're very fortunate to get away with a win versus Boise.
(25:01):
And I think there's some things to iron out on offense.
Just looking at the departure of Will Stein, their offense coordinator,
who had a great debut as the head coach at Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
But they're still trying to get.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Some things done there with Drew Meherringer is the OC now.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
And it's a bit of a struggle. But Rutgers as well,
and then Michigan. So if you're.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Looking at last weekend and looking at this weekend, what's
up for grabs is the narrative of who's the best conference.
And you've got a couple of big games this weekend
that will help, you know, decide that a bit. But
it doesn't look good for the Big Ten after week one.
The SEC was 16-0. I don't know that we have
many doubts about a lot of those top teams, whether
(25:42):
we're talking about Georgia, Texas, anyone else who's throwing that consideration.
And if people look at a team like Mississippi State
and they go, oh, like that's, you know, one of
the worst teams in the SEC, they look damn good, man.
You go back to Kentucky, I understand it's Youngstown State.
Will Stein, his debut. Kenny Minchie at quarterback. They look
damn good. It doesn't look like that conference has many
(26:04):
holes in it. Early indication just off one week of football.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
What conference is Boston College in?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
They're in the ACC.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
They had a good showing at the top. Miami's serious, man.
That's a storyline. Miami. I got a problem with Malachi Tony. Why?
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Here's my issue. He had an incredible day. Stanford's not
very good. I get it.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Listen, congratulations. Good job.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
And put up a historic day from a receiver standpoint.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Imagine, by the way, if Miami played Hawaii. Given Stanford
beating Hawaii and then now, you know, the way Miami
trounced Stanford.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I mean, that's, you know, I don't know why we
have to bring that stuff up. We're not here to
take it. But at least we know where your angst
is coming from.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
No, my issue with Malachi Toney is this. He was
phenomenal and he is phenomenal and he's fun to watch.
And he had a great day, historic day for Miami.
The problem is when he's throwing the Heisman pose up
as he scores twice, Dude, do you really think you're
going to get the Heisman over the quarterback who threw
(27:22):
for 400 yards and five touchdowns at the same time?
They're not going to give that award to Malachi Toney.
They're going to give it to Mensah, who threw him.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
The ball all those times.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So I get the idea. He wants to be in
the Heisman conversation, and he is, and he was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
It just feels like... the tie is going to.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Go to the guy throwing him the ball as opposed
to the receiver who's catching the ball in that situation.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
And as it stands right.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Now, that's a little like, yeah, but you, you can't
take issue with Malachi Tony to not take issue with
Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
He did the same thing.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I'm not listening. And Darren, you won't give it to
their quarterback.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
And Darian men says the favor right now to win
the Heisman. You're going to give the Heisman to the
Ohio state quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I'm giving it to Darian Mensah right now. All I'm
saying is Tony is a beast, and if he continues
to play that he's playing, he will be in the
conversation at the end of the day. When it all
comes down to it, if you get invited, I think
to me you've already won. You've already won. I know
(28:29):
runner-ups are the first loser and all that stuff. I
get it. But if you put yourself in position where
you're in the conversation to where you get to the
end of the season and you actually get that invite
to go to New York at the end of the day, man,
like he's playing the game the way he plays game.
I'm a little biased towards Malachi Tony because his dad's
(28:50):
a former teammate of mine. So that's why I was
looking at you, like, waiting to see where you was
going to go with it because it might have got personal.
I might have body slammed you or suplexed you during
the break. Violence is not the answer.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
One more stat of note here. Hawaii lost 21-6.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
To UNLV this past weekend, which I believe was part
of Jonas' locks for this weekend.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, but I'm showing everybody. When you're called the Rainbow Warriors,
a loss is a win. but i'm showing.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Everybody the ability to persevere and to overcome a loss
so by.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
The way i'm not trying to paint you as the
only loser on this show i had an awful awful
weekend for quinn's wins only one win had a push
last night um we had some others other teams who
couldn't couldn't quite cover i had to rely on my
faithful irish that was the only team that I could
really get to do anything.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Well, at least you can always count on Lorena's drop
for you. That'll always deliver. Did you guys see?
Speaker 7 (29:47):
I actually watched some football this weekend.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Did you really? I did at Disneyland.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
I went and found a bar that had the game.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
All right. What game did you watch?
Speaker 7 (29:56):
The Oregon one.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
All right.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Of course.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
So you almost watched the upset then, didn't you? Are
you more of an Oregon fan or Oregon State fan?
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Technically, I'm a Beaver believer, but that's just because they
saved my eyebrows.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Technically, it will. What? Never mind.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I don't know what your eyebrows have to do with.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
The first radio show I was on, it was right
before the Civil War game up in Roseburg, Oregon. And
the guy was a big Oregon Ducks fan.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
And I didn't do sports at all.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
And he was like, Ducks win every year. And I'm like,
I don't know about this year. It was the first
year in like eight years that the Beavers won. And
if they didn't win, I would have had to shave
my eyebrows.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Well, they didn't save your eyebrows. You put your eyebrows
on the line and they delivered.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
And they just happened to deliver the first time in forever.
So I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Huh. Huh. By the way, eyebrow. underrated facial feature. It
really is. You lose them, and it's a different human being.
It's a whole different game.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
By the way, forget about losing them. Even the people
who now, like, I don't know what the styling is.
Is it microblading? Is that what it's called?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, microblade. Yeah, it doesn't look right. They tattoo them, too.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
They tattoo, they microblade, and they make them stand up.
It draws your attention to them.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
You're like, oh, what's going on there?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
To me, hold on for a second.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
This is a legitimate tangent. It's just an eyebrow!
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Look, if you've got something going on on your hair
and you're doing your eyebrows, it's too much. I can't
pay attention to what's happening up top of your head
and your eyebrows. It's like distracting.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Dudes who arch their eyebrows. It's more prevalent than you
would think.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
It's the same thing with nose piercings. I'm like, look,
if you're piercing your nose, you're taking away from your face.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Your ear is one thing.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
It's on the side. It's kind of a side profile.
You see it maybe as a compliment or accessory. You
start piercing your nose. It's like, I can't stop. Is
that a stud?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
What is that? Is that a pimple? What is that
in there? It starts becoming distracting.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Gold pimple. It is.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
My ex, my ex's parents, my ex's parents owned a
owned a salon. And one of the one of the
features in the salon was the dad used to do
the eyebrow tattooing or whatever they want to call it
to where you put the permanent eyebrow on. And a
lady walked out of there and it looked like she had.
(32:21):
been shot and i asked i asked my girlfriend i
was like you charge for that and she's like yeah
what's that like face is swollen uh completely red micro
abrasions awful just awful.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
But yeah it's a weird blood that blood dip where
they just cut your whole face open like they're irrigating
your face like like the lawn you don't even know
how when they about the food Plant all them seeds
in the lawn. They poke all them holes in the mud. Yeah, rototiller.
That's what they do. Yeah, you rototill. And we go
(32:55):
into these salons getting holes in their face. It's awful.
Kim Kardashian made it famous. I don't know what it is,
but it looks really, really painful. Be bloodied up. Walk
out like somebody whooped your ass all over the place. Like, oh,
it's just my beauty day. No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Have you guys ever gotten your eyebrows waxed? There's some
guys who do that.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I don't get it. Bruh, it's the same difference. If
you do that, you know. All I'm saying, man, it's
just a hot dog. Yeah. And speaking of just a
hot dog for your tailgating pleasures, you want to get there.
You want to do it the right way. Make sure
you do it in a Nissan. Yeah. The frontier to
2026 Nissan frontier. It's built for the work week. I'm
(33:41):
ready to load you up on them tailgates on the weekends.
And well, If you aren't your eyebrows, you need not apply.
All right. Well, then again, I guess you can get
to it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
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Speaker 3 (35:03):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Guys, in case you missed it, you know that story
we've been monitoring in New England.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
With the Patriots? Which one's that?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
The Christian Gonzalez contract situation.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Oh, gosh, gosh, gosh.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, things have been sorted out and finalized as Christian Gonzalez.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Somebody got paid for their services.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
A few hours ago, Gonzalez agreed to terms on a four-year.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Would be a force in the way.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
$ 135 million extension that according to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler late
on Monday night, the deal includes $ 102 million guaranteed. Gonzalez
is now the highest paid cornerback in NFL history. So
he passes Devin Witherspoon, who I think they share the
(36:05):
same agent, if I'm not mistaken. So that good for
that agency for getting those done. But this was speculation
that maybe this would bleed into the season and Which,
by the way, kicks off tomorrow. So at least they
got this taken care of. So, again, nothing to see here.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Well, you know, I thought to myself, I guess we
have an idea of how owners view talent. You know
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
One person ready to perform gets, what, $ 140 offered to them?
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Oh, no.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Another one gets $ 100 million offered to them for their service.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Well, that depends on the timing and place and probably
services rendered.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Okay. Right?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I mean, I'm just saying, if you do a five-year contract, six-year,
seven-year contract, and you're giving the first, what, I don't know,
maybe you make the whole contract guaranteed. I'm just saying,
I might value the other services more than the guy
making interceptions or in coverage.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
But we've got a body of work from Christian Gonzalez.
We don't have that from.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
That is very true. That is very true. Now, that's fair.
That is fair, but man, the gap in... Actual compensation
for talent is, wow, $ 140 versus $ 100- plus million? I'm just saying, man.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Did you hear Michael Irvin's thoughts on the Jed York situation?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
What'd he say? Let's hear what he said.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Michael Irvin was on with Neon. He was on with Neon,
the streamer. And he tried to explain away... the situation
with Jed York.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
He got divorced five, six months ago. Yeah. And I'm like, man,
come on, man.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Is that really a crime?
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You know, that man ain't alone.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Everybody's paying for it.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Here's my take. You got a girlfriend? What? You got
a girlfriend? No, I don't have a girlfriend. You take
her out to eat? You paying for it? You pay
for it regardless. You buying a gift? Right, so what
are we doing? You taking her for food and then
taking her home?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Why we got to embarrass this man for $ 140?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
He's not... It was $ 140? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
So, yeah. And that's another thing, too. So people think,
you're a billionaire.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Why don't you go to high-end places?
Speaker 4 (38:19):
The high-end places get you in.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Trouble all the time. Tell them, Mike.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
I was going to say, is that from experience?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Hell yeah. Hell yeah. We were in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
We remember what happened at that restaurant or hotel, whatever
was going on there with him.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Who did you say the streamer was?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Neon? Neon. Yeah, Neon.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
The hell?
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
N3 on.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
All I know is Mike went in line, though. What's
the difference? I mean, for real. One's a hooker. The
other's your girlfriend. Yeah, but let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
One's selling their body for that.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Let me tell you something. I won't even name the
name of the dinner, but it was a Hall of
Fame dinner. And I was there, and let me tell
you something. There'd be dudes up in there with work, bruh.
They'd be up in there with work. You're not getting
her any other way, sir. I'm sorry. I don't mean
(39:23):
to judge you, but judging by the way she looks
and we're in Vegas, not only I'm going to say
I'm going to put in your favor is y'all match.
Y'all got matching colors on, but that's the only thing
I'm giving you. All I'm saying is, if you're selling
your body, I get it, but... If I take you
(39:43):
out to eat and we end up getting it in, like,
what's the difference? I mean. That's why I feel like
Mike is right. Like, you swooner and whiner and diner.
The one's legal, one's not. But why? Well, I mean.
Why do I have, like.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Taxes.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Taxes. If he had a bag of McDonald's with him
or some Chick-fil-A or any type of meal with him
in the seat ready to go. Maybe that's the move.
I was just here to have a picnic. Are you
taking this man to jail for solicitation of prostitution?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
If he brought a bag of food and just said, listen,
I just wanted to have lunch with somebody.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Imagine if you had a bag of food and Bibles.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
So your advice is to always pack a lunch just
in case.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
You— Good, good. And a bag of Bibles. Real hard
hat lunch pail guy. Like, if you break out some
food and some Bibles— Some whipped cream and peanut butter?
And you sit there and you say, I'm here to
have lunch and break bread with her in the name
of the Lord Jesus Christ. You're not going to jail.
You're not going to jail. Lorraine, you need help. You
(40:44):
got to.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
Those are just easy things to eat in the car.
You know, whipped cream and peanut butter.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Good to go. They're also good for.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Whipped cream has to be stored in a cool place, right?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Unless it is consumed quickly. And you also know where
they put peanut butter, right? Use those for them dog toys.
They cure hiccups, too, you know. Oh, no.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Oh, my.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Extra peanutty. Hit that dog.
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