December 23, 2022 • 40 mins
Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas tells you why Zach Wilson can never comeback from that awful performance on Thursday Night against the Jags. The NFL Sunday Ticket moves from DirecTV to YouTube TV, effectively changing everyone’s lives and much more on In Case You Missed It.
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Two pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio
Jonas knocks in the Here. Coming up on this Football Friday,
we're going to discuss what the hell that was last
night in MetLife between the Jets and the Jaguars, and
awful performance for Zack Wilson and most likely the end
of his time as quarterback for the New York Jets.
Will explain. We're also going to talk about why the
Jaguars should be inserted into the postseason, much like the
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Detroit Lions. Speaking of the Lions, I don't mean to
be the bearer of bad news, but we do have
some of that for you as well too. There's a
story in the NFL that for some reason will not
go away. The NFL, as you know it has completely changed.
We've also got to look back on our over unders
we've got in case you missed it, We've got the
scraps and it's all yours. Coming up next here, plus
some holiday tips on a football Friday, It's yours, two
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So for those of you freaking out and panicking because
maybe you've got some mo c D or maybe you're
a little bit loyal and you're like, well, if the
three of these guys aren't here, it's just not gonna
feel the same, that is true. But it's gonna be okay,
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all right, It's it's a holiday weekend. Everybody just relaxed, alright.
We were slumming on in the overnight's going solo for years. Alright,
the Jonas knock Show was this is not exactly that.
But we're gonna beat Okay, we're gonna be fine, everybody,
We're gonna do this together. We all hold hands. If
you're drinking a cocktail, you probably have better issues. Go ahead,
keep drinking away, and let's have a damn good time
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for the next couple of hours. That's all we gotta do.
Oh and by the way, it's a football Friday. It's
still a damn football Friday. You bet your ass. It's
a football Friday here on fs are. And I hate
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to start off on a sad note, but that'll do it.
For Zach Wilson's era in the New York Jet uniform.
That'll go ahead and wrap that up. We are all
good here. These Zach Wilson era is officially over. What
you saw last night, And I don't need to laugh.
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It's it's not funny. Listen. The guy's career has been
derailed and the whole it's a situation. But I mean,
come on, dude, you don't come back from that. You
don't come back from what that was. In a standalone game,
he was getting his ass booed off the field and early,
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if there was a checkdown, he got booed. If he
made the smart play and threw the ball away out
of bounds, he got booed. If he if he scrambled
because he had no time, he got booed. It's over.
And you could say, well, look, I mean the conditions
and all this stuff, and Robert Sali said afterwards, well,
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you know, we put Chris Traveler in UH to try
and give a different look, and then we got some momentum.
But the plan was to go back to Zach Wills.
You can spin it however you want. We've all been here.
If you've been in a relationship, you know what I'm
talking about. You ever have those fights that you just
never get over, you know, like technically you're back together.
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Technically you guys will get it together, and you'll and
you'll you know, have you know, you'll make up and
do all that stuff, and you say, hey, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry to you know, but there's these certain fights
that you never get over and you're always reminded of
and and if anything goes down in the future, you're
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always gonna be told about. There's always gonna be a
reference to it. It's just sort of that one that
sits there and lingers that you never quite recover from.
Technically speaking, you're back together, but it's never quite the same.
Zack Wilson and the New York Jets and Robert Sala
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had a fight and it was ugly and it didn't
go well. And technically he's still part of the team.
Technically he's still their quarterback, but it will never be
the same again. Think about this. Not only was Zach
Wilson benched by the New York Jets, he was deactivated.
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Like it wasn't one of these Hey, you know what,
take a break, sit this one out for a couple
of games. We're gonna start Mike White, You're still our guy.
We just want you to be on the sideline and
we want you to get a different vantage point. We
want you to kind of take a look at everything
just so you can slow down a little bit, don't
be so stressed out, and then when the time is right,
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we're gonna go back to you. Okay, just just just
understand this is for the best, This is for your career.
We feel like this will be better for everybody involved. No,
they didn't do that. They went to nukes. Yeah, you're out,
you're deactivated. I mean, we'll let you stand on the sideline,
but you're gonna be wearing street clothes. You're gonna be
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wearing whatever we hand out in the locker room beforehand.
And you've got no shot of getting in this game.
What if there's an injury, tough balls, We'll figure it
out with an emergency quarterback if Joe Flacco doesn't get
it done. I don't know who their emergency quarterback is,
the Vinny Testaverdie. I mean, I have no idea. Who
is their emergency quarterback? Kyle Brady. I have no idea.
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But the Jets told Zack Wilson, hey man, yeah, this
the same working dude, and then they try and sell
you on but he's climbing the depth chart because all
of a sudden he's number two on the depth chart.
And then what do you know, here he is starting again.
What changed during those practices for Zach Wilson, Well, like, well,
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what actually happened? What was were the patent go lines
so fluid that they said, this guy's really learned his lesson.
Just call it what it is. You didn't like what
he said after a game he wasn't accountable for his performance.
It didn't land right with the locker room, and Robert
Sala felt like he was going to lose the locker room,
so he punished Zach Wilson. The problem is now you're
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trying to go back and you can't put the toothpaste
back in the tube. The fight was too much. You're
never getting over it, and you're never gonna recover. He
was doomed. That's why we were talking about the game
yesterday on the show. I wasn't trying to be negative.
I wasn't trying like I wasn't looking at this talking
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with Brady Lavarn saying, oh man, I I really hope
Zach Wilson fails. I really no, No, I'm just being realistic.
He was doomed no matter what going into that game.
He was screwed because if he came out and he struggled,
and then when he saw the weather condition and the
forecast and all that other, he had no chance. And
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that was determined early on. And you'll get these people
that are gonna look at the box score and they're
gonna say, well, you know, and he did throw an interception.
I mean, if we're gonna be fair about it. I
mean that was like a hail Mary throw. In the
end of the first half, they weren't really able to
figure anything out, so he just kind of chucked it
up there and got picked off, and then they kind
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of scram umbled around. He was getting booed constantly. There
were chants for other quarterbacks. I believe there was a
Chris Traveler chant. I'm almost certain there was a Joe
Flacco chant. I don't quite know if there was a
Ken O'Brien chant or a Geno Smith, I'm not quite sure. Regardless,
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it was an awful look. They had a fight. They
tried to pretend like they recovered from it. They haven't.
They're not going to. And that's a wrap on Zach
Wilson's time with the New York Jets as a viable
starting quarterback. Then it doesn't mean his career is over.
It doesn't mean he's not going to amount to anything
moving forward. But it's broken. And you can go through
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the motions and be happy around your friends and family
during the holidays and everybody's hugging and hey, let's have
an egg nog and look at these family photos in
front of some dumb oak tree and everybody's dressed up
in Christmas gear and blah blah blah. You can cute
and up all you want. Facts are facts. It's a over,
however you want to spin it. It's over. Zach Wilson's
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time as a Jets quarterback and a viable starting option
in New York. That's a rap. Jonas knocks Fox Sports
Radio Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on
FS are also. Look, the odds came out yesterday that
the Jacksonville Jaguars were the favorite to win their division.
And a lot of that ties into too, Ryan Tannehill's
injury and what's going on in Tennessee and all that stuff.
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And we'll get into the very latest on that, because
if that feels like a formality as well too, even
though Tennessee and and Mike Vrabel and then maybe not
want to admit it, that feels like it's formality. But
the odds started to shift, and I'm looking around and
we kind of threw this out earlier in the week.
Would you swap out the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the
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Detroit Lions, Like if you could, If the NFL came
to and said, hey, I know we've got other issues
to worry about. I know we got other stuff on
the table. But if you could swap out Tampa Bay
for one team in the NFC, who would you take
for me to be? The Detroit Lions? Great story, playing
good football, they play hard, it's a different look, it's
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a fresh feel. Why not the Detroit Lions swap out
Tampa Bay? Figure it out? You were able to schedule
Wednesday games during COVID, I'm sure you could figure this
out if you really wanted to swap it out. So
just you know, pure hypothetical, if you were to do
the same thing in the a f C. If we're
just being truthful here, and this is not to piss
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off Titans fans that are listening on the zone in Nashville,
not trying to break balls. It's a holiday weekend. It's
not what we're trying to do. Can we just be
fair here. We've kind of seen what the Tennessee Titans are.
We get it. There's a ceiling. They're gonna get to
the playoffs. They're probably gonna lose. Derrick Henry is gonna
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throw a jump pass touchdown, and Ryan Tannehill is gonna
throw an interception and they're gonna play marginal defense and
then everybody afterwards is gonna go, gosh, what happened? We
won the A C South And then you're gonna look
back and go, well, and you're not seef C South.
I mean, that's like saying you want to slam dunk
competition between a bunch of the jockeys at the Kentucky Derby.
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I mean, what are you really doing here? A couple
of those guys sit on a curve in their feet dangle,
I mean, what are you doing here? Like it's it's
nothing really to brag about. But if we're being truthful
about it, why would you not want Jacksonville in the
playoffs as opposed to Tennessee. And you don't even need
to do a hypothetical swap. The odds have already dictated
that that's where this is headed. And it looks like
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Jacksonville is gonna go to the postseason, and it looks
like they're gonna win that division based on the Tannehill injury,
based on the schedule down the stretch, and the game
last night may have solidified it. But to me, you're
watching Jacksonville and you're going, okay, they got an emerging quarterback,
a guy who's gotten better and better and better. They
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play hard. There's talent there. Doug Peterson has turned that
organization around from the mess they were a year ago.
If we're being truthful and you want to talk about
who's the right team to get into the postseason from
that division, Houston stinks. The Indianapolis culture disaster. We've seen
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the Tennessee Titan story before. We've seen that movie. Why
not Jacksonville, why not Trevor Lawrence. I think it'd be
a much better watching, a much more interesting watch. That
team hosted a playoff game coming up in about a month.
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you know it, the NFL you've grown up on, completely
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Jonas Knocks of the Heir, LaVar and Brady. They've burned
the day off, so we're not gonna accept any slander
on this show spending time with their families, all right,
Nothing wrong with that, you bastards. See some of the
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comments flying over on social media. By the way, coming
up a little over twenty minutes from now, we are
going to uh get the very latest on a very
awkward story in the world of sports. Very awkward, very uncomfortable,
and uh right. When he thought that this story had
just disappeared and kind of ished, and we don't need
to worry about nothing here. All of a sudden, this
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pop back up into the news, so we'll have that
for you here coming up. We'll call it a little
over twenty minutes from now on. FS are also a
little controversy here has been brewing behind the scenes here
on the show. I like to do this every year,
get people lotto scratchers and you're probably thinking, well, it's
out of the goodness of your heart, it's absolutely not.
I want to see who's gonna get screwed over. So
you buy everybody on the show a lot of scratchers
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from the same role. Somebody's gonna win a few bucks
and somebody's not gonna win a damn thing. And then
they got to sit with each other for the next
two to three hours and know that a hole right
there took my money. So we've got that going on
here behind the scenes. We'll keep you up to speed
on that as to how this works out, because bertoh
Lee and Eddie have all gotten scratchers off the same role,
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and I just haven't feeling somebody's gonna get somebody's gonna
get aft over. By the way, what an a whole
move by whoever created a lot of scratchers? That, like
one of your prizes is a ticket? Gee? Thanks, another
opportunity to know I'm not gonna win money? What have
paid to the ass? What? What? What? What? A jay
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off move by? Whoever created a lot of scratchers? Hey,
you know we can't just we can't just send him
home with nothing. So what are you gonna give him? Well,
we'll give him another ticket. But what if that one
doesn't win? Well, at least we gave him a shot. Okay,
well that's cool, thanks so much. We appreciate it all right.
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if you want to get somebody's attention, We've learned this
over the last couple of years. If you want to
get somebody's attention, all you gotta do is mess with
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their social life. Like you remember when COVID restrictions lifted
a little bit. There was obviously the initial shutdown, remember
the stop the spread for two weeks, whatever craft they
were trying to throw it us. But remember when the
COVID restriction started to lift just a little bit. You
could go out. But you could go out if there
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was outdoor dining, if you had your mask on, if
you stayed a six ft apart. There was all these
sort of things you needed to do if you wanted
to go out, if you wanted to get out of
the house, if you've been locked up for too long
and you wanted to do something other than just sit
eat frozen food and watch the same stuff over and
(16:38):
over again, you could do it. You just gotta sort
of come around to things. You just gotta sort of
accept whatever the new normal is. Like, you want to
go to dinner, certain things you gotta do, all right.
You want to go out and get a cocktail. You
might have to sit in the cold. It's gonna be outside,
and there's gonna be nobody at the tape well in
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between you and the other people that want to also
go out and have a cocktail. You want to go traveling,
It's fine, it's just gonna take a little longer in
security lines because you're not allowed to be within six
ft of each other and you've got to have a
mask on at all times, and on the flight, it's
just what you had to do, like they needed to
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get your attention, so they mess with your social life.
We'll guess who else just did that recently to you,
the NFL, because the NFL just did that to the
non streamers that are left in this world. Because I
don't know if you saw the news yesterday, but the
way you watch the NFL just completely changed seven years,
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two billion dollars reportedly, and Sunday Ticket is now gone
from Direct TV. It is going to be featured on YouTube,
and there's gonna be premium channels and all the other
things that come along with it, and how they're gonna
price point this and all the other things that they
go forward with it. And we'll get to that stuff
as a season approaches next year, but it's done at
Direct TV and it's going to YouTube. Like if you
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want to get people out of their old school habits,
if you want to get people out of this, I
refuse to buy any more apps or streaming services. I
refuse to do it. I'm this is how you do it.
You tell them, well, you just can't watch your precious football,
like that's how this is going to go. You're one
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of those people who just prefers to watch games on
television and not have to navigate through the apps, let
me taste them. I'm one of those people. I'd rather
not have to hit a bunch of different buttons to
get to Amazon Prime to watch Thursday night football. But
it is what it is. You're kind of handcuffed to
what they've built. I would rather just turn on the TV,
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press a, press a channel and go watch that game
on a certain channel. But those days are over. The
streaming era is here. So if you want to get
people out of that old school mentality like some people
have who don't want to deal with apps and don't
want to do all that, I mean, there's been people
who have been cutting the cord for years now, so
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this isn't anything new. But there's still some people who
would prefer I just want to turn on my television
and watch something like I don't wanna have to do all. Right, Well,
let's call your bluff. We're gonna go ahead and we're
gonna make it to where if you want to watch
your favorite thing in the world from a sporting standpoint,
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the only way you're doing it is through this streaming service.
Because why don't we call it what it is, Sunday
Ticket as a social life. I'm not even exaggerating when
I say this. I'd be willing to bet anybody listening
to this show right now. I don't care where you are.
You could be on your way to work. You could
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be coming back from work. You could be sitting in
an uber because your car broke down. You could be
getting up early to try and get some shopping done
because you're a little banged up from the night before.
And like, I don't care what it is you do professionally.
You could be in law enforcement. You could be driving
a lift. I don't care what it is, a big rig,
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you name it. What do you prefer to do more
go out on a Friday night or stay home and
watch Sunday Ticket at home and get all the games,
or go to a bar on Sunday afternoon as opposed
to a bar on Friday evening. Like the older you get,
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those days are done. That's cool. Like listen, going out
and doing the Friday Saturday night thing. That's awesome, but
it's kind of run its course a little bit, like
you know, like like basically, if you're a sports bar
and you don't have Sunday Ticket, you're on your ass.
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Like it's expensive as hell. My brother owns a restaurant
slash bar, Like I know the pricing. It's not like
what we pay the three to four dollars. They go
into your establishment, they look around and they say, this
is how many people at capacity could be here, and
that's how we're charging you. But you have to do
it like it's it's the way this works. Sunday Ticket
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has become a social life as the NFL popularity has grown.
It's now officially part of your social life. It's what
you do for fun. It's your hobby. I remember talking
to a guy who was doing some repair work at
my house and he was just telling me, like, yeah,
my favorite thing to do. And this is the one
thing I have and the one agreement I've got with
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my wife is whatever I do during the week, I
work hard. You know, I'm always hustling. I'm picking up
side jobs and doing whatever. When Sunday rolls around, leave me,
They'll leave me the hell alone. That's it. It's over.
Leave me alone. Let me do my thing, and his
thing is Sunday ticket, watch all the games, grill a
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little bit, cook, have a couple of buddies over, have
a couple of beers, maybe gamble on some of the games.
Like it's a social life. Like where would you be
if you were watching football on a Sunday? In fact,
I'll say this, and I don't care who this piss
is off because they're not listening to this anyways. If
you don't watch football on Sundays, you're disgusting. You disgusted me.
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I don't know how you can live with yourself. I
couldn't imagine going an entire Sunday and being like, Nah,
who cares what's happening at the end of that game? Nah? Hey,
did you see what happened at the end of that
Raiders Patriots game? Not interested? I've got laundry to do.
What a loser like that? But there are people out
there like that. They're losers, but those people exist. What
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the NFL did yesterday and what YouTube did yesterday was saying,
all right, we understand you like your football a certain way.
We're gonna try this out. How much. Do you really
like your football? And I got news for you. Nobody's
going anywhere. Nobody's gonna gonna be defiant and say, I refute.
The only people that are gonna that are gonna take
it in the shorts is going to be Direct TV.
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You're gonna go where your social life dictates, and they're
gonna tell you during these times, just like they did
when restrictions started to lift during COVID. All right, if
you want to go out, that's cool. You gotta play
by certain rules. Can't stand next to each other, gotta
wear a mask. Maybe the men use a little shorter,
but people were willing to do it because they just
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wanted a little piece and quiet outside, away from the
kids screaming, away from all the other things at home.
And that's how they got you. And the NFL did
the same thing yesterday. So if you're one of those
old school, non tech, non core cutting defiant NFL fans,
the NFL just called your bluff. Sunday tickets going to YouTube,
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Jonas Knocks, Fox Sports Radio, two Pros and a cup
of Joe here on fs are. You can get me
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always on the I Heart Radio app. All right, so
we're gonna get an update on one situation in the
NFL at quarterback because I think there's some optimism here.
I'm not calling it false optimism, but I think I
know the plan. We'll have that for you next here.
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But for all the latest from around the world of
sports ladies and gentlemen. Edmin Garcia, it's up Betty big time?
What's up? Jonas? There? Yeah? There you go. Have you
scratched any of those uh the scratchers yet? I don't
have a coin? You already won five bucks for that?
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Means Lee You're not within a damn thing. Sorry Lee
lea screwed? Oh man, I got it on the last
one baby. Yeah. So does that mean I'm not getting anything? Sorry? Eddie?
How much? How much is it? Can you in? What's
the like? What's the big Maybe I'll get a thousand, man,
that would be awesome, and then just grab your crotch. Yeah,
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I just look at Burt. I just do one of
those crotch chops from the nineties. Yeah, and I'll say
show me some Yeah. Well, the Jaguars looking for some respect.
On Thursday Night football in the Meadowlands, two teams looking
to keep their hopes alive for a playoff spot in
the a f C. Jaguars beat the Jets nineteen to three.
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Riley Patterson boots four field goals for the Jags and
quarterback Trevor Lawrence score the only touchdown of the game
with a run from a yard out For the Jets,
their quarterback Zack Wilson nine of eighteen passing ninety two
yards and interception got bench to the third quarter for
Chris Struggler. Jacksonville at seven and eight, just a half
game back at Tennessee for the top spot in the
a f C South and automatic playoff spot. Meanwhile, the
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Jets are also seven and eight, but they're not gonna
win their division, so they need a wild card spot
and there behind Miami, New England and Jacksonville at the moment.
News from the NFL philadelph Eagles quarback Jayala Hurts expected
to miss Saturday's game against the Cowboys with a spring
throwing shoulder. Gardner Minshew ready to start in his place.
Ravens quarterback Lark Jackson's gonna miss his third straight game
with the knee injury. Tyler Huntley starts against the Falcons.
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Titans quarterback Ryan Tannehill out of the season with right
ankle injury, and Malik Willis will start against the Texans.
College football, the Armed Forces Bowl saw Air Force beat
Baylor thirty to fifteen. Falcons finished the year ten In
three baseball news, an independent arbitrator reduced the dodgers Picture
Trevor Bauers three and twenty four games suspension for violating
the league's domestic violence policy to a hundred and ninety
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four games and reinstated him affected immediately basically because the
time served. The Dodgers now have fourteen days to release
Bauer or Adam to their forty man roster. Just two
games in the NBA, Pelicans over the Spurs one seventeen
c J. McCollum forty points for New Orleans. The Jazz
beat the Wizards in the other game one two one
twelve college basket on them before Kansas beat Harvard, Arizona
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down Morgan State Well in Missouri knocked off number sixteen
Illinois seventy one. Not back to Jonas Docks and the
entire rac dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studio Thanks Eddy too,
pros and a cup of Joe here on fs are
you can hang out with us is always on the
I Heart radio apps. So coming up in about we'll
call it twelve minutes from down, another edition of incase
you missed it. We've got a story in the world
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of sports that I don't know if people forgot about it,
but it was just kind of sitting out there and
we got some clarity on that story yesterday and it
just feels a little dirty, feels a little awkward. So
we'll have that for you here again, twelve minutes from
now from the entire rac dot Com studio. So Mike
Crable was saying yesterday, the Titans head coach that he
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doesn't have an injury update on Ryan Tannehill after this week, right,
He's not going to talk about week seventeen. He's only
focused on Week sixteen. Tannehill is gonna be out with
this ankle injury and it's gonna be maliqu Wills. So
that's where we're at. And you see that and you go, Okay, well,
maybe there's some optimism, maybe there's some hope here. But
the feeling from all these other reports is that Ryan
(28:06):
Tannehill has done for the year. It's not happening. I
wonder if part of the hesitation by Mike Rabel is
that he realizes, depending on how these next couple of
games go, he might be better served with a banged
up Ryan Tannehill come week eighteen, as opposed to what
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Malik willis is. I mean, they've lost four straight games,
they've been struggling, and Tannehill hasn't been healthy and then
he reaggravated or suffered, you know, an injury to the
same ankle on Sunday against the Titans. But if you're
the Tennessee Titans and you would assume Tennessee, you like
their chances as they're playing host to the Houston Texans
(28:49):
coming up this weekend. So you look at that and
you go, okay, well, they could still hold onto their
one game lead in the division, because that's where we're
at right now. Tennessee's got a one game lead or
now to have game lead in the division based on
what Jacksonville did last night. And so you look at
that and you go, okay, they've got a half game
leading the division. They can hold onto that one game lead,
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and then you just roll the dice and you send
Maliquialis out there in week seventeen. The problem is then
you get the Cowboys in week seventeen. Now, the Cowboys
have played down to their competition at times. We saw that,
and we've seen it over the past couple of years.
But you adventure to guess that Dallas is probably gonna
be favored. So if you're looking over at Jacksonville and
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you see what Jacksonville has got coming up, and you
know they're gonna be at Houston next weekend, if we
just do the math here and if we just use logic,
and let's say Jacksonville wins next weekend and then the
Tennessee Titans take care of business this weekend but lose.
In week seventeen, they're gonna be sitting tied with identical records,
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and in week eighteen they face off. And I just
wonder if part of the reason why Mike Rabel is
playing it safe and not talking about Week seventeen injury
reports or anything like that. I wonder if he looks
at this and says, if we can get through this
weekend understanding we're up against it in week seventeen with Dallas,
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I may have to go with my guy in week eighteen,
and I would argue, if it comes down to the
division and who's going to the playoffs between Jacksonville and
Tennessee and week eighteen, that's one of the more interesting
a f C South matchups we've seen in a long time.
So when I heard Rabel make the comments yesterday and
not willing to commit, and this is hours after these
reports came out that Ryan Tannehill was, you know, probably
(30:40):
most likely done for the season, it would not shock
me at all to see Ryan Tannehill in week eighteen
try and get it out, knowing if this team wins
there in and they go to the playoffs. Jonas knocks
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Fox Sports Radio, Jonas Knocks of the here. No LaVar,
no Brady, don't. They'll be back after the weekend. Relax, everybody,
just calm down, all right, it's still a football Friday, right,
Just everybody settled down, right. Let those guys. Let those
(32:08):
guys catch their breath for once. Right, they're traveling all
over the place. They're trying to make great radio, great
TV for you. LaVar's got his his weekend show. Fox
is sending Brady Quinn all over the country to do
big newon kickoff games. She's filming commercials for Wendy's Right.
(32:28):
The least you could do is not giving a hard
time about taking the Friday off before Christmas. Right, let
me handle that when they get back, all right, So,
coming up top the next hour a little over ten
minutes from now, there's a team in the NFL that,
no matter what happens this weekend, and this might be history,
(32:49):
no matter what happens this weekend, they're going to lose.
Do you want a Knox lock. That's your Knox lock.
No matter what happens this weekend, and NFL team is
going to lose. It doesn't matter if at the end
of the game they have more points than the other team.
It doesn't matter if at the end of the game
(33:10):
they have the same number of points as the other team.
It doesn't matter. They're going to lose. I guarantee it.
It is a full blown Knox lock. A guarantee. I'll
tell you who that team is. Coming up top the
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(33:53):
missed it, and for that we turn it over to
our executive producer lead Do Do Do Do, Do Do, Do
Do Do lap laugh fellas and fellas, But I mean
in case you missed it. We opened the show talking
about Zack Wilson and the Jets losing to the Jags,
and in case you miss it, A fan took to Wikipedia,
always good for good news there to update Chris Traveler's
(34:14):
Wikipedia page. Let me read this off to you. On
July two, s Travelers signed with the New York Jets.
Despite a strong preseason performance, he was waived on August
two and signed to the practice squad the next day.
On December two, thousand, twenty two, that being last night,
s Traveler entered the game for Zach Wilson, effectively ending
Wilson's career as an NFL quarterback in New York. Now,
(34:36):
obviously this was done as a joke, but as you
pointed out at the beginning of the show, Jonas, this
will soon become a reality. It's just like, can't you
let the guy just deal with this and get through
the holidays before we start changing this Wikipedia page. And
by the way, if it's so easy to change the
history on somebody like this in real time, how many
(35:00):
other things in history if they lied about and written
that wasn't totally accurate. Didn't it make you think about that?
Of course they are every year. That's the best part
about Wikipedia. Starting from about November. We need a donation
to keep our site up. It's like this, there's this
sushi restaurant near my house and it says happy hour
(35:21):
all day on the sign that it's no longer happy hour.
That's just what the prices. But it's been there for years.
It's to be. It's like one of the biggest cons
of all time because everyone goes, oh, they've got happy
hour all day. Then it's not happy hour like that,
like they're just giving you discounted sushi that didn't all
(35:42):
that great. That might just smile at you. If you
go to bite into something. But it's like Wikipedia, every
year we need a donation or else we're not gonna
be able to continue on. Dude, how like how many
years you're gonna pull their same crap and sooner or
later just like get a new line like hey, of
us a donation. That way, we'll use a different font
(36:03):
like stop stopped threatening everybody that we can't keep the
site up if we got to shut this down. But
this is like you knew it was only a matter
of time. It was awkward last night watching Zach Wilson play.
It was awkward watching him standing on the sidelines with
Chris Traveler, who looks like some guy in a in
a metal band he's got Like, by the way, how
many starting quarterbacks in the NFL have armed sleeves? Now
(36:26):
all right, it's it's s Traveler. I would say Taylor Heineke,
I think has has tats. Kaepernick had tats, right, Like,
how many other like I'm trying to think how many
other guys have have sleeves in the NFL? Whatever it is,
the game has changed. Back in the day, if you
were a waiter or a waitress, if you had a
(36:46):
tattoo on your arm, they made you cover it up. Nowadays,
if you don't have it, you're probably gonna get fired, right,
So I don't mean to be the bear of bad
news for those you look at for stocking stuff or
give anybody in the restaurant industry, um, you know to
be some like tattoo money. Go figure that out. What
else we got lee, In case you missed it, the
viral video of a Patriots fan being berated by an
(37:09):
obnoxious Raiders fan at the end of that Roberto's friend,
That lady Roberto's friend. Well, the video went viral because
the Pats fan kept his composure even though she was
in his face. It happened to be his first game ever,
his first NFL game ever. He took the social media
saying thank you to everyone for all the kind words.
That was my first ever NFL game. I didn't want
(37:31):
to ruin my experience by retaliating towards that woman, so
I kept my cool. Well. In return, Pat's owner Robert
Kraft has extended an awesome gesture inviting him to Gillette Stadium,
giving him on field access for pregame warmups and uh yeah,
inviting him to the game. Yeah, why doesn't he give
him a membership to eight the Orchards of Asia and Jupiter, Florida.
I'm gonna check that out. I just like to strain myself.
(37:54):
I'm putching this woman in the face. What a tough guy? Yeah,
like this, like I just the the whole, the whole
idea that we've got like rally around this guy who
was mistreated by this woman. The woman's a slob. You
saw her, okay, like and then and then I saw
somebody on Twitter it was like, can we get her
name to why? Like, what what are you gonna do?
(38:15):
Ladies of slab? She's sitting She's sitting up in the
nosebleeds harassing a Patriots fan. When's the last time any
of you guys have ever been to a football game
or sporting event. This happens all the time. I remember being,
oh my god, the more I think about this, the
more outrageousness is. I remember being at the Bears Saints
NFC championship game and two thousand seven January of two
(38:38):
thousand seven, and some Bears fan held up a sign
that said, today the Bears finished what Katrina started. I
swear to God on that these people are animals, Okay,
Like they're savages. If you go out into the wild
with savages, they might take a bite out of you.
(38:58):
And this woman's a slow bob and she got after
this guy and then everybody rowling around him, and they're
gonna send him to a Patriots cancer. Come on, dude,
like it's I mean, aren't there other things we could
be concerned about, you know, like if we gotta get
her name to, what are you gonna do docs her?
Get her fired? She didn't swing on the guy. Were
their racial slurs yelled? She was getting his face. It
(39:20):
happens to sporting events. Alright, what else we got in
case he missed this? College football's oldest quarterback, Austin Annie
out of North Texas, is entering the transfer portale years old. Okay,
you know what, it's never too late. Al Right, it's not.
It's never too late the transfer portal. My god. Man,
So he's twenty nine years old and he's leaving North
(39:43):
Texas and he's going to has he announced her doesn't
say yet. He did just play in the Miami Beach Bowl,
losing to Boise State. He actually was drafted by the
Yankees second round pick back in two thousand and twelve
an a good for him. By the way, at twenty
nine years old, how many guys do you think on
(40:04):
his team he's got to buy beer for? Like, you know,
he's the guy like, hey man, do you have your
I D? Now I don't got one? What about you?
I have one? But that liquor store owner is kind
of a pain in the ass. Well what are we
gonna do? Oh, we got a guy who's coming up
on thirty, Like, why don't we just use his I D? Like,
why don't we just send him in there? Like I
have that guy, go pick up the booze. So congratulations.
(40:26):
The Transfer portal is a wild place for the War
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we're going to discuss what the hell that was last
night in MetLife between the Jets and the Jaguars, and
awful performance for Zack Wilson and most likely the end
of his time as quarterback for the New York Jets.
Will explain. We're also going to talk about why the
Jaguars should be inserted into the postseason, much like the
(00:23):
Detroit Lions. Speaking of the Lions, I don't mean to
be the bearer of bad news, but we do have
some of that for you as well too. There's a
story in the NFL that for some reason will not
go away. The NFL, as you know it has completely changed.
We've also got to look back on our over unders
we've got in case you missed it, We've got the
scraps and it's all yours. Coming up next here, plus
some holiday tips on a football Friday, It's yours, two
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So for those of you freaking out and panicking because
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a little bit loyal and you're like, well, if the
three of these guys aren't here, it's just not gonna
feel the same, that is true. But it's gonna be okay,
(01:48):
all right, It's it's a holiday weekend. Everybody just relaxed, alright.
We were slumming on in the overnight's going solo for years. Alright,
the Jonas knock Show was this is not exactly that.
But we're gonna beat Okay, we're gonna be fine, everybody,
We're gonna do this together. We all hold hands. If
you're drinking a cocktail, you probably have better issues. Go ahead,
keep drinking away, and let's have a damn good time
(02:10):
for the next couple of hours. That's all we gotta do.
Oh and by the way, it's a football Friday. It's
still a damn football Friday. You bet your ass. It's
a football Friday here on fs are. And I hate
(02:31):
to start off on a sad note, but that'll do it.
For Zach Wilson's era in the New York Jet uniform.
That'll go ahead and wrap that up. We are all
good here. These Zach Wilson era is officially over. What
you saw last night, And I don't need to laugh.
(02:52):
It's it's not funny. Listen. The guy's career has been
derailed and the whole it's a situation. But I mean,
come on, dude, you don't come back from that. You
don't come back from what that was. In a standalone game,
he was getting his ass booed off the field and early,
(03:14):
if there was a checkdown, he got booed. If he
made the smart play and threw the ball away out
of bounds, he got booed. If he if he scrambled
because he had no time, he got booed. It's over.
And you could say, well, look, I mean the conditions
and all this stuff, and Robert Sali said afterwards, well,
(03:35):
you know, we put Chris Traveler in UH to try
and give a different look, and then we got some momentum.
But the plan was to go back to Zach Wills.
You can spin it however you want. We've all been here.
If you've been in a relationship, you know what I'm
talking about. You ever have those fights that you just
never get over, you know, like technically you're back together.
(03:57):
Technically you guys will get it together, and you'll and
you'll you know, have you know, you'll make up and
do all that stuff, and you say, hey, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry to you know, but there's these certain fights
that you never get over and you're always reminded of
and and if anything goes down in the future, you're
(04:17):
always gonna be told about. There's always gonna be a
reference to it. It's just sort of that one that
sits there and lingers that you never quite recover from.
Technically speaking, you're back together, but it's never quite the same.
Zack Wilson and the New York Jets and Robert Sala
(04:38):
had a fight and it was ugly and it didn't
go well. And technically he's still part of the team.
Technically he's still their quarterback, but it will never be
the same again. Think about this. Not only was Zach
Wilson benched by the New York Jets, he was deactivated.
(05:01):
Like it wasn't one of these Hey, you know what,
take a break, sit this one out for a couple
of games. We're gonna start Mike White, You're still our guy.
We just want you to be on the sideline and
we want you to get a different vantage point. We
want you to kind of take a look at everything
just so you can slow down a little bit, don't
be so stressed out, and then when the time is right,
(05:22):
we're gonna go back to you. Okay, just just just
understand this is for the best, This is for your career.
We feel like this will be better for everybody involved. No,
they didn't do that. They went to nukes. Yeah, you're out,
you're deactivated. I mean, we'll let you stand on the sideline,
but you're gonna be wearing street clothes. You're gonna be
(05:45):
wearing whatever we hand out in the locker room beforehand.
And you've got no shot of getting in this game.
What if there's an injury, tough balls, We'll figure it
out with an emergency quarterback if Joe Flacco doesn't get
it done. I don't know who their emergency quarterback is,
the Vinny Testaverdie. I mean, I have no idea. Who
is their emergency quarterback? Kyle Brady. I have no idea.
(06:09):
But the Jets told Zack Wilson, hey man, yeah, this
the same working dude, and then they try and sell
you on but he's climbing the depth chart because all
of a sudden he's number two on the depth chart.
And then what do you know, here he is starting again.
What changed during those practices for Zach Wilson, Well, like, well,
(06:32):
what actually happened? What was were the patent go lines
so fluid that they said, this guy's really learned his lesson.
Just call it what it is. You didn't like what
he said after a game he wasn't accountable for his performance.
It didn't land right with the locker room, and Robert
Sala felt like he was going to lose the locker room,
so he punished Zach Wilson. The problem is now you're
(06:55):
trying to go back and you can't put the toothpaste
back in the tube. The fight was too much. You're
never getting over it, and you're never gonna recover. He
was doomed. That's why we were talking about the game
yesterday on the show. I wasn't trying to be negative.
I wasn't trying like I wasn't looking at this talking
(07:15):
with Brady Lavarn saying, oh man, I I really hope
Zach Wilson fails. I really no, No, I'm just being realistic.
He was doomed no matter what going into that game.
He was screwed because if he came out and he struggled,
and then when he saw the weather condition and the
forecast and all that other, he had no chance. And
(07:38):
that was determined early on. And you'll get these people
that are gonna look at the box score and they're
gonna say, well, you know, and he did throw an interception.
I mean, if we're gonna be fair about it. I
mean that was like a hail Mary throw. In the
end of the first half, they weren't really able to
figure anything out, so he just kind of chucked it
up there and got picked off, and then they kind
(07:59):
of scram umbled around. He was getting booed constantly. There
were chants for other quarterbacks. I believe there was a
Chris Traveler chant. I'm almost certain there was a Joe
Flacco chant. I don't quite know if there was a
Ken O'Brien chant or a Geno Smith, I'm not quite sure. Regardless,
(08:19):
it was an awful look. They had a fight. They
tried to pretend like they recovered from it. They haven't.
They're not going to. And that's a wrap on Zach
Wilson's time with the New York Jets as a viable
starting quarterback. Then it doesn't mean his career is over.
It doesn't mean he's not going to amount to anything
moving forward. But it's broken. And you can go through
(08:43):
the motions and be happy around your friends and family
during the holidays and everybody's hugging and hey, let's have
an egg nog and look at these family photos in
front of some dumb oak tree and everybody's dressed up
in Christmas gear and blah blah blah. You can cute
and up all you want. Facts are facts. It's a over,
however you want to spin it. It's over. Zach Wilson's
(09:04):
time as a Jets quarterback and a viable starting option
in New York. That's a rap. Jonas knocks Fox Sports
Radio Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on
FS are also. Look, the odds came out yesterday that
the Jacksonville Jaguars were the favorite to win their division.
And a lot of that ties into too, Ryan Tannehill's
injury and what's going on in Tennessee and all that stuff.
(09:25):
And we'll get into the very latest on that, because
if that feels like a formality as well too, even
though Tennessee and and Mike Vrabel and then maybe not
want to admit it, that feels like it's formality. But
the odds started to shift, and I'm looking around and
we kind of threw this out earlier in the week.
Would you swap out the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the
(09:46):
Detroit Lions, Like if you could, If the NFL came
to and said, hey, I know we've got other issues
to worry about. I know we got other stuff on
the table. But if you could swap out Tampa Bay
for one team in the NFC, who would you take
for me to be? The Detroit Lions? Great story, playing
good football, they play hard, it's a different look, it's
(10:06):
a fresh feel. Why not the Detroit Lions swap out
Tampa Bay? Figure it out? You were able to schedule
Wednesday games during COVID, I'm sure you could figure this
out if you really wanted to swap it out. So
just you know, pure hypothetical, if you were to do
the same thing in the a f C. If we're
just being truthful here, and this is not to piss
(10:28):
off Titans fans that are listening on the zone in Nashville,
not trying to break balls. It's a holiday weekend. It's
not what we're trying to do. Can we just be
fair here. We've kind of seen what the Tennessee Titans are.
We get it. There's a ceiling. They're gonna get to
the playoffs. They're probably gonna lose. Derrick Henry is gonna
(10:49):
throw a jump pass touchdown, and Ryan Tannehill is gonna
throw an interception and they're gonna play marginal defense and
then everybody afterwards is gonna go, gosh, what happened? We
won the A C South And then you're gonna look
back and go, well, and you're not seef C South.
I mean, that's like saying you want to slam dunk
competition between a bunch of the jockeys at the Kentucky Derby.
(11:09):
I mean, what are you really doing here? A couple
of those guys sit on a curve in their feet dangle,
I mean, what are you doing here? Like it's it's
nothing really to brag about. But if we're being truthful
about it, why would you not want Jacksonville in the
playoffs as opposed to Tennessee. And you don't even need
to do a hypothetical swap. The odds have already dictated
that that's where this is headed. And it looks like
(11:31):
Jacksonville is gonna go to the postseason, and it looks
like they're gonna win that division based on the Tannehill injury,
based on the schedule down the stretch, and the game
last night may have solidified it. But to me, you're
watching Jacksonville and you're going, okay, they got an emerging quarterback,
a guy who's gotten better and better and better. They
(11:51):
play hard. There's talent there. Doug Peterson has turned that
organization around from the mess they were a year ago.
If we're being truthful and you want to talk about
who's the right team to get into the postseason from
that division, Houston stinks. The Indianapolis culture disaster. We've seen
(12:12):
the Tennessee Titan story before. We've seen that movie. Why
not Jacksonville, why not Trevor Lawrence. I think it'd be
a much better watching, a much more interesting watch. That
team hosted a playoff game coming up in about a month.
Jonas knocks here Fox Sports Radio. It's two pros and
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(12:34):
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some things in the world of sports. If we don't
have a chance to get to we'll put a bowl
on the show at the end. Here coming up an
hour three of the program, So it's all yours, a
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here all the way up until nine am Eastern times
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(12:57):
you know it, the NFL you've grown up on, completely
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the day off, so we're not gonna accept any slander
on this show spending time with their families, all right,
Nothing wrong with that, you bastards. See some of the
(13:41):
comments flying over on social media. By the way, coming
up a little over twenty minutes from now, we are
going to uh get the very latest on a very
awkward story in the world of sports. Very awkward, very uncomfortable,
and uh right. When he thought that this story had
just disappeared and kind of ished, and we don't need
to worry about nothing here. All of a sudden, this
(14:03):
pop back up into the news, so we'll have that
for you here coming up. We'll call it a little
over twenty minutes from now on. FS are also a
little controversy here has been brewing behind the scenes here
on the show. I like to do this every year,
get people lotto scratchers and you're probably thinking, well, it's
out of the goodness of your heart, it's absolutely not.
I want to see who's gonna get screwed over. So
you buy everybody on the show a lot of scratchers
(14:25):
from the same role. Somebody's gonna win a few bucks
and somebody's not gonna win a damn thing. And then
they got to sit with each other for the next
two to three hours and know that a hole right
there took my money. So we've got that going on
here behind the scenes. We'll keep you up to speed
on that as to how this works out, because bertoh
Lee and Eddie have all gotten scratchers off the same role,
(14:49):
and I just haven't feeling somebody's gonna get somebody's gonna
get aft over. By the way, what an a whole
move by whoever created a lot of scratchers? That, like
one of your prizes is a ticket? Gee? Thanks, another
opportunity to know I'm not gonna win money? What have
paid to the ass? What? What? What? What? A jay
(15:09):
off move by? Whoever created a lot of scratchers? Hey,
you know we can't just we can't just send him
home with nothing. So what are you gonna give him? Well,
we'll give him another ticket. But what if that one
doesn't win? Well, at least we gave him a shot. Okay,
well that's cool, thanks so much. We appreciate it all right.
By the way, Speaking of which, fellas, it's time to
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if you want to get somebody's attention, We've learned this
over the last couple of years. If you want to
get somebody's attention, all you gotta do is mess with
(15:54):
their social life. Like you remember when COVID restrictions lifted
a little bit. There was obviously the initial shutdown, remember
the stop the spread for two weeks, whatever craft they
were trying to throw it us. But remember when the
COVID restriction started to lift just a little bit. You
could go out. But you could go out if there
(16:15):
was outdoor dining, if you had your mask on, if
you stayed a six ft apart. There was all these
sort of things you needed to do if you wanted
to go out, if you wanted to get out of
the house, if you've been locked up for too long
and you wanted to do something other than just sit
eat frozen food and watch the same stuff over and
(16:38):
over again, you could do it. You just gotta sort
of come around to things. You just gotta sort of
accept whatever the new normal is. Like, you want to
go to dinner, certain things you gotta do, all right.
You want to go out and get a cocktail. You
might have to sit in the cold. It's gonna be outside,
and there's gonna be nobody at the tape well in
(17:00):
between you and the other people that want to also
go out and have a cocktail. You want to go traveling,
It's fine, it's just gonna take a little longer in
security lines because you're not allowed to be within six
ft of each other and you've got to have a
mask on at all times, and on the flight, it's
just what you had to do, like they needed to
(17:21):
get your attention, so they mess with your social life.
We'll guess who else just did that recently to you,
the NFL, because the NFL just did that to the
non streamers that are left in this world. Because I
don't know if you saw the news yesterday, but the
way you watch the NFL just completely changed seven years,
(17:45):
two billion dollars reportedly, and Sunday Ticket is now gone
from Direct TV. It is going to be featured on YouTube,
and there's gonna be premium channels and all the other
things that come along with it, and how they're gonna
price point this and all the other things that they
go forward with it. And we'll get to that stuff
as a season approaches next year, but it's done at
Direct TV and it's going to YouTube. Like if you
(18:08):
want to get people out of their old school habits,
if you want to get people out of this, I
refuse to buy any more apps or streaming services. I
refuse to do it. I'm this is how you do it.
You tell them, well, you just can't watch your precious football,
like that's how this is going to go. You're one
(18:30):
of those people who just prefers to watch games on
television and not have to navigate through the apps, let
me taste them. I'm one of those people. I'd rather
not have to hit a bunch of different buttons to
get to Amazon Prime to watch Thursday night football. But
it is what it is. You're kind of handcuffed to
what they've built. I would rather just turn on the TV,
(18:55):
press a, press a channel and go watch that game
on a certain channel. But those days are over. The
streaming era is here. So if you want to get
people out of that old school mentality like some people
have who don't want to deal with apps and don't
want to do all that, I mean, there's been people
who have been cutting the cord for years now, so
(19:15):
this isn't anything new. But there's still some people who
would prefer I just want to turn on my television
and watch something like I don't wanna have to do all. Right, Well,
let's call your bluff. We're gonna go ahead and we're
gonna make it to where if you want to watch
your favorite thing in the world from a sporting standpoint,
(19:36):
the only way you're doing it is through this streaming service.
Because why don't we call it what it is, Sunday
Ticket as a social life. I'm not even exaggerating when
I say this. I'd be willing to bet anybody listening
to this show right now. I don't care where you are.
You could be on your way to work. You could
(19:57):
be coming back from work. You could be sitting in
an uber because your car broke down. You could be
getting up early to try and get some shopping done
because you're a little banged up from the night before.
And like, I don't care what it is you do professionally.
You could be in law enforcement. You could be driving
a lift. I don't care what it is, a big rig,
(20:19):
you name it. What do you prefer to do more
go out on a Friday night or stay home and
watch Sunday Ticket at home and get all the games,
or go to a bar on Sunday afternoon as opposed
to a bar on Friday evening. Like the older you get,
(20:40):
those days are done. That's cool. Like listen, going out
and doing the Friday Saturday night thing. That's awesome, but
it's kind of run its course a little bit, like
you know, like like basically, if you're a sports bar
and you don't have Sunday Ticket, you're on your ass.
(21:00):
Like it's expensive as hell. My brother owns a restaurant
slash bar, Like I know the pricing. It's not like
what we pay the three to four dollars. They go
into your establishment, they look around and they say, this
is how many people at capacity could be here, and
that's how we're charging you. But you have to do
it like it's it's the way this works. Sunday Ticket
(21:26):
has become a social life as the NFL popularity has grown.
It's now officially part of your social life. It's what
you do for fun. It's your hobby. I remember talking
to a guy who was doing some repair work at
my house and he was just telling me, like, yeah,
my favorite thing to do. And this is the one
thing I have and the one agreement I've got with
(21:48):
my wife is whatever I do during the week, I
work hard. You know, I'm always hustling. I'm picking up
side jobs and doing whatever. When Sunday rolls around, leave me,
They'll leave me the hell alone. That's it. It's over.
Leave me alone. Let me do my thing, and his
thing is Sunday ticket, watch all the games, grill a
(22:08):
little bit, cook, have a couple of buddies over, have
a couple of beers, maybe gamble on some of the games.
Like it's a social life. Like where would you be
if you were watching football on a Sunday? In fact,
I'll say this, and I don't care who this piss
is off because they're not listening to this anyways. If
you don't watch football on Sundays, you're disgusting. You disgusted me.
(22:35):
I don't know how you can live with yourself. I
couldn't imagine going an entire Sunday and being like, Nah,
who cares what's happening at the end of that game? Nah? Hey,
did you see what happened at the end of that
Raiders Patriots game? Not interested? I've got laundry to do.
What a loser like that? But there are people out
there like that. They're losers, but those people exist. What
(23:01):
the NFL did yesterday and what YouTube did yesterday was saying,
all right, we understand you like your football a certain way.
We're gonna try this out. How much. Do you really
like your football? And I got news for you. Nobody's
going anywhere. Nobody's gonna gonna be defiant and say, I refute.
The only people that are gonna that are gonna take
it in the shorts is going to be Direct TV.
(23:24):
You're gonna go where your social life dictates, and they're
gonna tell you during these times, just like they did
when restrictions started to lift during COVID. All right, if
you want to go out, that's cool. You gotta play
by certain rules. Can't stand next to each other, gotta
wear a mask. Maybe the men use a little shorter,
but people were willing to do it because they just
(23:45):
wanted a little piece and quiet outside, away from the
kids screaming, away from all the other things at home.
And that's how they got you. And the NFL did
the same thing yesterday. So if you're one of those
old school, non tech, non core cutting defiant NFL fans,
the NFL just called your bluff. Sunday tickets going to YouTube,
(24:06):
Jonas Knocks, Fox Sports Radio, two Pros and a cup
of Joe here on fs are. You can get me
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always on the I Heart Radio app. All right, so
we're gonna get an update on one situation in the
NFL at quarterback because I think there's some optimism here.
I'm not calling it false optimism, but I think I
know the plan. We'll have that for you next here.
(24:26):
But for all the latest from around the world of
sports ladies and gentlemen. Edmin Garcia, it's up Betty big time?
What's up? Jonas? There? Yeah? There you go. Have you
scratched any of those uh the scratchers yet? I don't
have a coin? You already won five bucks for that?
(24:49):
Means Lee You're not within a damn thing. Sorry Lee
lea screwed? Oh man, I got it on the last
one baby. Yeah. So does that mean I'm not getting anything? Sorry? Eddie?
How much? How much is it? Can you in? What's
the like? What's the big Maybe I'll get a thousand, man,
that would be awesome, and then just grab your crotch. Yeah,
(25:14):
I just look at Burt. I just do one of
those crotch chops from the nineties. Yeah, and I'll say
show me some Yeah. Well, the Jaguars looking for some respect.
On Thursday Night football in the Meadowlands, two teams looking
to keep their hopes alive for a playoff spot in
the a f C. Jaguars beat the Jets nineteen to three.
(25:35):
Riley Patterson boots four field goals for the Jags and
quarterback Trevor Lawrence score the only touchdown of the game
with a run from a yard out For the Jets,
their quarterback Zack Wilson nine of eighteen passing ninety two
yards and interception got bench to the third quarter for
Chris Struggler. Jacksonville at seven and eight, just a half
game back at Tennessee for the top spot in the
a f C South and automatic playoff spot. Meanwhile, the
(25:56):
Jets are also seven and eight, but they're not gonna
win their division, so they need a wild card spot
and there behind Miami, New England and Jacksonville at the moment.
News from the NFL philadelph Eagles quarback Jayala Hurts expected
to miss Saturday's game against the Cowboys with a spring
throwing shoulder. Gardner Minshew ready to start in his place.
Ravens quarterback Lark Jackson's gonna miss his third straight game
with the knee injury. Tyler Huntley starts against the Falcons.
(26:18):
Titans quarterback Ryan Tannehill out of the season with right
ankle injury, and Malik Willis will start against the Texans.
College football, the Armed Forces Bowl saw Air Force beat
Baylor thirty to fifteen. Falcons finished the year ten In
three baseball news, an independent arbitrator reduced the dodgers Picture
Trevor Bauers three and twenty four games suspension for violating
the league's domestic violence policy to a hundred and ninety
(26:39):
four games and reinstated him affected immediately basically because the
time served. The Dodgers now have fourteen days to release
Bauer or Adam to their forty man roster. Just two
games in the NBA, Pelicans over the Spurs one seventeen
c J. McCollum forty points for New Orleans. The Jazz
beat the Wizards in the other game one two one
twelve college basket on them before Kansas beat Harvard, Arizona
(27:03):
down Morgan State Well in Missouri knocked off number sixteen
Illinois seventy one. Not back to Jonas Docks and the
entire rac dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studio Thanks Eddy too,
pros and a cup of Joe here on fs are
you can hang out with us is always on the
I Heart radio apps. So coming up in about we'll
call it twelve minutes from down, another edition of incase
you missed it. We've got a story in the world
(27:23):
of sports that I don't know if people forgot about it,
but it was just kind of sitting out there and
we got some clarity on that story yesterday and it
just feels a little dirty, feels a little awkward. So
we'll have that for you here again, twelve minutes from
now from the entire rac dot Com studio. So Mike
Crable was saying yesterday, the Titans head coach that he
(27:45):
doesn't have an injury update on Ryan Tannehill after this week, right,
He's not going to talk about week seventeen. He's only
focused on Week sixteen. Tannehill is gonna be out with
this ankle injury and it's gonna be maliqu Wills. So
that's where we're at. And you see that and you go, Okay, well,
maybe there's some optimism, maybe there's some hope here. But
the feeling from all these other reports is that Ryan
(28:06):
Tannehill has done for the year. It's not happening. I
wonder if part of the hesitation by Mike Rabel is
that he realizes, depending on how these next couple of
games go, he might be better served with a banged
up Ryan Tannehill come week eighteen, as opposed to what
(28:26):
Malik willis is. I mean, they've lost four straight games,
they've been struggling, and Tannehill hasn't been healthy and then
he reaggravated or suffered, you know, an injury to the
same ankle on Sunday against the Titans. But if you're
the Tennessee Titans and you would assume Tennessee, you like
their chances as they're playing host to the Houston Texans
(28:49):
coming up this weekend. So you look at that and
you go, okay, well, they could still hold onto their
one game lead in the division, because that's where we're
at right now. Tennessee's got a one game lead or
now to have game lead in the division based on
what Jacksonville did last night. And so you look at
that and you go, okay, they've got a half game
leading the division. They can hold onto that one game lead,
(29:11):
and then you just roll the dice and you send
Maliquialis out there in week seventeen. The problem is then
you get the Cowboys in week seventeen. Now, the Cowboys
have played down to their competition at times. We saw that,
and we've seen it over the past couple of years.
But you adventure to guess that Dallas is probably gonna
be favored. So if you're looking over at Jacksonville and
(29:33):
you see what Jacksonville has got coming up, and you
know they're gonna be at Houston next weekend, if we
just do the math here and if we just use logic,
and let's say Jacksonville wins next weekend and then the
Tennessee Titans take care of business this weekend but lose.
In week seventeen, they're gonna be sitting tied with identical records,
(29:56):
and in week eighteen they face off. And I just
wonder if part of the reason why Mike Rabel is
playing it safe and not talking about Week seventeen injury
reports or anything like that. I wonder if he looks
at this and says, if we can get through this
weekend understanding we're up against it in week seventeen with Dallas,
(30:17):
I may have to go with my guy in week eighteen,
and I would argue, if it comes down to the
division and who's going to the playoffs between Jacksonville and
Tennessee and week eighteen, that's one of the more interesting
a f C South matchups we've seen in a long time.
So when I heard Rabel make the comments yesterday and
not willing to commit, and this is hours after these
reports came out that Ryan Tannehill was, you know, probably
(30:40):
most likely done for the season, it would not shock
me at all to see Ryan Tannehill in week eighteen
try and get it out, knowing if this team wins
there in and they go to the playoffs. Jonas knocks
Fox Sports Radio. It's two Pros and a cup of
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it's coming up next. Uh. This is a very awkward
(31:01):
story in the world of sports, Very awkward, very uncomfortable.
You thought it had disappeared, you thought it had gone away,
and then it popped back up out of nowhere yesterday.
We'll tell you what that is. Right here on fs ARE,
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(31:25):
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Fox Sports Radio, Jonas Knocks of the here. No LaVar,
no Brady, don't. They'll be back after the weekend. Relax, everybody,
just calm down, all right, it's still a football Friday, right,
Just everybody settled down, right. Let those guys. Let those
(32:08):
guys catch their breath for once. Right, they're traveling all
over the place. They're trying to make great radio, great
TV for you. LaVar's got his his weekend show. Fox
is sending Brady Quinn all over the country to do
big newon kickoff games. She's filming commercials for Wendy's Right.
(32:28):
The least you could do is not giving a hard
time about taking the Friday off before Christmas. Right, let
me handle that when they get back, all right, So,
coming up top the next hour a little over ten
minutes from now, there's a team in the NFL that,
no matter what happens this weekend, and this might be history,
(32:49):
no matter what happens this weekend, they're going to lose.
Do you want a Knox lock. That's your Knox lock.
No matter what happens this weekend, and NFL team is
going to lose. It doesn't matter if at the end
of the game they have more points than the other team.
It doesn't matter if at the end of the game
(33:10):
they have the same number of points as the other team.
It doesn't matter. They're going to lose. I guarantee it.
It is a full blown Knox lock. A guarantee. I'll
tell you who that team is. Coming up top the
next hour a little over ten minutes from now, from
the ti iraq dot Com studios. By the way, fellas,
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(33:53):
missed it, and for that we turn it over to
our executive producer lead Do Do Do Do, Do Do, Do
Do Do lap laugh fellas and fellas, But I mean
in case you missed it. We opened the show talking
about Zack Wilson and the Jets losing to the Jags,
and in case you miss it, A fan took to Wikipedia,
always good for good news there to update Chris Traveler's
(34:14):
Wikipedia page. Let me read this off to you. On
July two, s Travelers signed with the New York Jets.
Despite a strong preseason performance, he was waived on August
two and signed to the practice squad the next day.
On December two, thousand, twenty two, that being last night,
s Traveler entered the game for Zach Wilson, effectively ending
Wilson's career as an NFL quarterback in New York. Now,
(34:36):
obviously this was done as a joke, but as you
pointed out at the beginning of the show, Jonas, this
will soon become a reality. It's just like, can't you
let the guy just deal with this and get through
the holidays before we start changing this Wikipedia page. And
by the way, if it's so easy to change the
history on somebody like this in real time, how many
(35:00):
other things in history if they lied about and written
that wasn't totally accurate. Didn't it make you think about that?
Of course they are every year. That's the best part
about Wikipedia. Starting from about November. We need a donation
to keep our site up. It's like this, there's this
sushi restaurant near my house and it says happy hour
(35:21):
all day on the sign that it's no longer happy hour.
That's just what the prices. But it's been there for years.
It's to be. It's like one of the biggest cons
of all time because everyone goes, oh, they've got happy
hour all day. Then it's not happy hour like that,
like they're just giving you discounted sushi that didn't all
(35:42):
that great. That might just smile at you. If you
go to bite into something. But it's like Wikipedia, every
year we need a donation or else we're not gonna
be able to continue on. Dude, how like how many
years you're gonna pull their same crap and sooner or
later just like get a new line like hey, of
us a donation. That way, we'll use a different font
(36:03):
like stop stopped threatening everybody that we can't keep the
site up if we got to shut this down. But
this is like you knew it was only a matter
of time. It was awkward last night watching Zach Wilson play.
It was awkward watching him standing on the sidelines with
Chris Traveler, who looks like some guy in a in
a metal band he's got Like, by the way, how
many starting quarterbacks in the NFL have armed sleeves? Now
(36:26):
all right, it's it's s Traveler. I would say Taylor Heineke,
I think has has tats. Kaepernick had tats, right, Like,
how many other like I'm trying to think how many
other guys have have sleeves in the NFL? Whatever it is,
the game has changed. Back in the day, if you
were a waiter or a waitress, if you had a
(36:46):
tattoo on your arm, they made you cover it up. Nowadays,
if you don't have it, you're probably gonna get fired, right,
So I don't mean to be the bear of bad
news for those you look at for stocking stuff or
give anybody in the restaurant industry, um, you know to
be some like tattoo money. Go figure that out. What
else we got lee, In case you missed it, the
viral video of a Patriots fan being berated by an
(37:09):
obnoxious Raiders fan at the end of that Roberto's friend,
That lady Roberto's friend. Well, the video went viral because
the Pats fan kept his composure even though she was
in his face. It happened to be his first game ever,
his first NFL game ever. He took the social media
saying thank you to everyone for all the kind words.
That was my first ever NFL game. I didn't want
(37:31):
to ruin my experience by retaliating towards that woman, so
I kept my cool. Well. In return, Pat's owner Robert
Kraft has extended an awesome gesture inviting him to Gillette Stadium,
giving him on field access for pregame warmups and uh yeah,
inviting him to the game. Yeah, why doesn't he give
him a membership to eight the Orchards of Asia and Jupiter, Florida.
I'm gonna check that out. I just like to strain myself.
(37:54):
I'm putching this woman in the face. What a tough guy? Yeah,
like this, like I just the the whole, the whole
idea that we've got like rally around this guy who
was mistreated by this woman. The woman's a slob. You
saw her, okay, like and then and then I saw
somebody on Twitter it was like, can we get her
name to why? Like, what what are you gonna do?
(38:15):
Ladies of slab? She's sitting She's sitting up in the
nosebleeds harassing a Patriots fan. When's the last time any
of you guys have ever been to a football game
or sporting event. This happens all the time. I remember being,
oh my god, the more I think about this, the
more outrageousness is. I remember being at the Bears Saints
NFC championship game and two thousand seven January of two
(38:38):
thousand seven, and some Bears fan held up a sign
that said, today the Bears finished what Katrina started. I
swear to God on that these people are animals, Okay,
Like they're savages. If you go out into the wild
with savages, they might take a bite out of you.
(38:58):
And this woman's a slow bob and she got after
this guy and then everybody rowling around him, and they're
gonna send him to a Patriots cancer. Come on, dude,
like it's I mean, aren't there other things we could
be concerned about, you know, like if we gotta get
her name to, what are you gonna do docs her?
Get her fired? She didn't swing on the guy. Were
their racial slurs yelled? She was getting his face. It
(39:20):
happens to sporting events. Alright, what else we got in
case he missed this? College football's oldest quarterback, Austin Annie
out of North Texas, is entering the transfer portale years old. Okay,
you know what, it's never too late. Al Right, it's not.
It's never too late the transfer portal. My god. Man,
So he's twenty nine years old and he's leaving North
(39:43):
Texas and he's going to has he announced her doesn't
say yet. He did just play in the Miami Beach Bowl,
losing to Boise State. He actually was drafted by the
Yankees second round pick back in two thousand and twelve
an a good for him. By the way, at twenty
nine years old, how many guys do you think on
(40:04):
his team he's got to buy beer for? Like, you know,
he's the guy like, hey man, do you have your
I D? Now I don't got one? What about you?
I have one? But that liquor store owner is kind
of a pain in the ass. Well what are we
gonna do? Oh, we got a guy who's coming up
on thirty, Like, why don't we just use his I D? Like,
why don't we just send him in there? Like I
have that guy, go pick up the booze. So congratulations.
(40:26):
The Transfer portal is a wild place for the War
of the college football. Our two's next here ont f
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