November 15, 2024 • 40 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Eagles surge to beat the Commanders, looking like a real contender in the NFC. The Tyson-Paul might be a must-watch fight despite the gimmicks. Plus, the return of Jon Gruden.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Football Friday, we are going to look back on
week eleven's kickoff and it was the Commanders and the Eagles,
and it was Philly getting it done. A questionable decision
by Washington, but the future does appear bright for the Commanders.
We'll get into that for you here. We're also going
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to have a conversation about one of the big events
this upcoming weekend. It is Mike Tyson Jake Paul. We've
got a slap, We've got cursing in front of a
fourteen year old. We've got gold ear protections or whatever
the hell's going on there with Jake Paul.
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We'll get into all that for you.
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and doing the right thing as a coach, as a dad,
as a consultant. We're going to talk about another issue
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on this show multiple times and now people are finally
paying attention. Plus, we've got our picks against the spread.
We've got Lamar Jackson's weird history, against the Pittsburgh Steelers,
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I don't know how the hell they're feeling in Philadelphia
right now, because, uh, I don't know. That game necessarily
instilled a ton of confidence in me and the philidelp
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of the Eagles, But give them credit. Uh, Barkley has
been a home run edition to.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
This he has sheesh, what a difference maker. But they
didn't need him in New York. Now they didn't they
They were not a Saquon Barkley away from winning in
New York. There are Daniel Jones away from there. They're
get away from a Daniel Jones away from winning. Damn.
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You know, it is what it is. But they're trending
in the right direction. Man. You know the Eagles are
trending in the right direction. For the Commanders, they're a
formidable team. They're they're hitting. Actually, even after looking at
them losing, I think they're trending in the right direction
as well. They just have to learn how to finish games.
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And and they might be they they might be a
receiver away from from being able to set themselves apart
to be that next next tier type of team. But
you know, I give I get Dan Quinn a lot
of a lot of credit, Cliff Kingsbury, give those guys
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credit because they do have this team going in the
right direction. Like the score I don't think is indicative
of how you know how that game was played. So
when when you look at you know, the totality of
what took place in last night's game, that was to
see who you know, in many cases, I guess, in
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many ways defining who is the dominant team in the
NFC East. And I think it still has that look
and that feel that Philly is big brother to the
Washington Commanders. And so Dan Quinn and company are going
to have to continue to address those feelings and address
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that approach or or the understanding that Philadelphia believes, no
matter what the scenario is, that they're a more superior
team than the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It felt like it was two different games last night.
There was the game and then there was the game
following Washington's decision to go for it on fourth down
and I kicked the field goal.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It was I mean that that was a very critical play.
I don't get it. Well, the thing about it, the
thing about it, Jonas is let's see it. Let's see
you execute in a way where at least we can
say it was a bad call or it was a
good call. Game is on the line, and you could
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have taken the lead, right, you can take the lead
with the field goal. It's one point lead if they
kicked the field goal correct, Yeah, and he bobbles the snap,
bobbles the snap and isn't able to run it for
the first down. It was just that's a tremendously bad
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break for the Commanders in that moment because it was
probably the most critical, most pivotal moment turned into that
type of moment for the game because it ultimately that
was that was like the okay, if they don't stop
them on offense, well, if the Commanders on defense doesn't
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stop the Philadelphia gas on you know them being on offense,
it totally changes the game. You gotta hold them to
a field goal and now you got to score a touchdown.
I think it was like seven minutes or so left
when this happened. It just I think it was a
deflating moment for the Commanders. And while the defense played
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at to me a high level. What's the kid's name, Louvu?
Is that how you pronounce it? Louvu? Number four on defense?
He's a beast. Bro the linebacker on on on their team,
He's a beast. Bobby Bobby Wagner has you know he's
he's he's a productive football player, Hall of Famer, but
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they they need they need another another pass rusher, and
they need a younger linebacker.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I mean, you still got it once you get out there.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I came, I came limping in here this morning, like
I had a freaking ingrown toe now or hey, you.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Don't even want to down?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
But again, well it's just yeah, it's nagging you.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, just nagging. So that's age trying to do these
open toe you know slides, which, by the way, I
got They got these like a Marshals for twelve dollars
like three years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I've never seen you in those. There's not a lot
going on. You look like uh, you looks like Bobby
Orchids right now. I really yeah, I need is a rope.
There's my bottle of water in the free on the
way out. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
But nonetheless, the decision for the fourth down call by
Dan Quinning Company, the head coach of the Commanders, spoke
about that following the game, justly to.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Go for it and fourth down and two at the
twenty six bold call. But I would also say we're
prepared for that moment. I don't love the execution, but
we've been an excellent fourth down team, so going into it.
We knew we'd have to take our shots against a
tough division team on the road, and we thought that
was appropriate. One certainly don't like the execution and the result,
but we were prepared for that and being bold into
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those moments, knowing we'd have some fourth downs, but that's
when we could fix.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I don't know, I just in that moment, neither offense
has really been able to get in the end zone,
like Philly's got issues with their kicker, because Jake Elliott
was just you know, I mean just wide left all
night long. I just felt like in that spot, in
that moment, kick the field goal, you go up by
a point and then just rely on your defense again,
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and it felt like all the momentum left went to
Philly's direction and they just stomped them out from there
on out. Like the game wasn't close after that.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And you know, another thing that I find interesting about
these games that we're watching. You really could call a
penalty every play, you really could. And it's crazy because
it's like these players are being held to a standard
of playing the game a certain way, but generally speaking,
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it's by I guess timing or interpretation or you know,
whatever it may be, the thought process and the reasoning
of these referees when they decide to make a call.
Because I saw some really egregious holds last night. I
just I saw some really just I guess, really really
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interesting plays that needed to have possibly a flag throne
and it wasn't thrown. But in some cases, in other
cases on that same play or maybe something then less
than that, you'll see a flag being thrown. So I
think that, you know, obviously there's there's human era or
flaw connected to how games are called. But I still
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thought it was a well played game. I mean, obviously
it was a low scoring game at first. I mean
seven to three at halftime. That's they were. You know,
they were battling. You know, it took until the fourth
quarter for them to have that explosion and for Saquon
to get going, and you know, Jalen Hurts to start
finding the receivers, finding some holes in the defense. But
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for what it's worth, I think that these are too
strong representatives of the NFC side, and really heading into
the playoffs, I think you got to you know, the
home stretch of this this season. I think that the
Washington commanders have to learn how to finish games. I
think that that's the theme after losing the way that
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they did to the Steelers and then back to back
weeks on a primetime game, losing to in a similar manner,
and the Eagles have to stay healthy and their offense
is going to go through sakuon Barkley. Sound familiar. That
was the theme in New York and now that's the
theme and in Philadelphia. Uh, you know the call.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I didn't understand the grabbing of the helmet underneath and
pulling it, and I.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Was trying to understand it. I was assuming because he
didn't grab his face mask like you by it's not
but but is it? You know? I couldn't come up.
I couldn't come up with why they picked it up
because it's almost like if you grabbed him by the
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back of his patch. You know that that's a horse
collar tackle. If you grab him by his helmet, and
you can clearly see his fingers go inside the helmet
and in the young man's head jerks when he grabs
a helmet. I thought that was a flag, but again
by I don't know the interpretation of it by rule,
so I know he did not have him by his
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face mask, and when he went and hit him up
like the slap across his head to try to grab him,
he did not. He did not yank him. It was
more of his momentum carrying him. His hands went up
in there, and as his hands are coming out, it
turned and his hand came out. So maybe they thought
by interpretation him releasing his head and not just really
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just egregiously grabbing him by the helmet and yanking his
neck and pulling his neck around, that it didn't warrant
the call. But again, that's a part of the list
of calls. It's like that was a critical that was
a critical play. Yeah, it's fifteen yards and it turns
into what a second down? It was a first down play.
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I believe it turned into a second down and seven,
and I still think they ended up getting the first
down or whatever it may be. But you know, I
just think there's a lot of there's a lot of
gray area with the way these games are being called,
you know, because obviously there are a lot of calls
that you see being made that can make you scratch
your hit, but I think there's even more calls that
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aren't made that make me scratch my head.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You know what I do like about Philly though, Like, man,
it doesn't matter what that team's done in the past,
Jake Elliott, whoever. It is, like you're on borrow time,
you have a bad first quarter, they're gonna let you
know about it, like they if Jake, if they would
have lost that game, there would have been a lot
of people very upset with Jake Elliott, very upset and
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rightfully so. And I'm not, you know, trying to point
to anybody on this show who might have had a
vested interest in what happened in that game from a
point total standpoint, but nonetheless that was also an issue
for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, I just but I don't know what it is
with Philly.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I come away from that and it feels like they're
playing in slow motion, like offensively. I watch them and
I go, what is this? Like, I just I don't know,
And I think, you know, Tony Gonzalez was saying, I
think this is the best team in the NFC following
the game. You know, I think this is the team
to beat in the NFC.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
They might be. I think if they.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Meet Detroit in the postseason, the Lions would annihilate Philly.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I think they match up very well. Actually I don't
add I don't even think it's close. I think they
match up well because the one thing that Philly has
on their side is that they can They're physical, and
they're and they're they're physical upfront on both sides of
the ball, so they can match the physicality of a Detroit. Now,
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the question is is who who is going to play
at the highest level at the quarterback's position. I think
that that's what's going to define it in in the playoffs.
That's obviously what it's going to be defined by the
coaching and by the quarterback play and who wins up
in the trenches. I think Philadelphia has the ability to
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be able to match the physicality of Detroit. And while
I do think Detroit is the best team in the
NFC Division, there's still a matchup. There are a matchup parody,
I'll say balance against those two teams. They have a
good running game. They have the ability to be explosive
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in the running game, and they can establish to run
both in the past and on the ground. With Sakwon Barkley,
they have enough firepower and balance with big play receivers,
which you did not see you saw it glaring for
Washington yesterday that if they don't get another receiver, which
was interesting that they didn't go for one in the
in trade before the trade deadline. To complement McLaurin. McLaurin,
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I think that that you know, that shows that showed
up in the Pittsburgh game and showed up in this game.
But I don't think they get blown out by Detroit
if they play in the playoffs. I think that that's
a very good I believe that is the matchup in
fact in the NFC side of the bracket.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
By the way, I would like to say this to
your point on Washington being able to close out games.
Let's be honest here. This is a six and five
football team, because if you want to credit them for
the win against Chicago, that was more of a gaff
on the Bears part.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
They didn't finish out the game.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And they didn't finish the game because they had that
game under control and in the fourth quarter they melted down,
only to be out melted down by a meltdown in Chicago.
That's whatever the hell happened there on the hail Mary's
So yeah, that that is something to note when it
comes to the Commanders. Yeah, they're seven and four. It's
feel good time in DC, but it's like, man, like
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three of the last four games not great.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But I think again, that's that's more of a you're
taking this team in the right direction. And while you'll
say you know that the results are are certainly there
to see that what dan Quinn brought to the table
is of tremendous value, there's still the idea that this
team has to grow and they have to develop and
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evolve into what it is that culturally he's trying to
build there.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
There this year was Houston Texans to where nobody last
year saw Houston. Is like, wow, that's a team that
could legitimately win a Super Bowl. They're a playoff team,
they're heading in the right direction, they found their quarterback,
they've got a new culture. But it's just like there's
still more time.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
We say they're even in a better situation than the
Houston Texans, And that's because of the resume of the
head coach. And you know, while he came up short
in Atlanta and had another opportunity but ended up back
as a defensive coordinator, I think his resume as a
coach is understanding of a as a coach, as a
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head coach in this league. That experience I think sets
him apart. No shade towards obviously Demico coach coach Ryan's
in Houston, but I do believe that that is the difference,
is the experience. You know. I don't know if that
was what they call it an aberration. I don't know
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if that was just a moment in time that Houston
was the team that they were last year. Obviously looking
at what they're Jaydon or not Jaydon Daniels, but what yeah, CJ.
Stroud represented to the Houston Texans last year and how
well he played. He's not quite having that type of
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year this year where he's set in the world on fire.
So the idea of it is, is this a building
year for the Commanders or was this a year where
you say, Okay, the league needed to catch up and
understand what Cliff Kingsbury is trying to do on offense.
They're pretty good on defense because of the mind that
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Dan Quinn brings to the table. So they had a
really good one year run at it. But now they've
cooled off because there's a book on how they want
to use Jayton Daniels use this offense and how they're
calling the defenses. That remains to be seen. But I
will say being there in person, the feel and the
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energy of what's taking place with the commanders is different.
So it doesn't seem like there's the pressure of you
got to walk into the locker room, walk past little
Danny when you're going into the locker room after a
half of football or a game played and you lost,
and now he doesn't want to shake your hand. He's
glaring at everybody walking by, and this and that, meddling
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in anything and everything. Like we're hearing about what's going
on in Dallas, this is actually an ownership group that
is praising and giving a ton of credit to this
coaching staff and what they're doing to build this team
and allowing for dan Quinn to really really bring that
positive energy into the building. I didn't even know, you know,
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they moved operations out of where the team practices. I
think to me, that is a major piece of all
of this. I know we were talking about in weeks
past the players complaining about the tours taking place through
the facility while they're there working. And while I'll say,
you shouldn't be paying attention or be distracted by outside
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you know, forces and things that are you know, taking place.
There is something to be said about being in an
environment that you can call yours, getting your work in,
not having distractions, not walking around like I can recall
walking around in the building, and all our operations pretty
much were in the same building, and I gotta be
honest with you, it was very distracting at times. I mean,
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you see some of the people walking in there that's
going into the media side or the sales side, and
you find yourself walking into the media side and the
sales side to walk through in between the cubicles that
just say hello to a couple people, Well, maybe say
hello to everybody along the way, so nobody knows who
you're really walking past cubicles to see. There's a lot
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of things that can be distracting. I'm sure there are
people in those tours that are attack bit distracting when
they're walking by as well. So it's the old it's
the old office trick.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You know, if you're here working at a place with
a bunch of cubicles, you know which path to take
to get to the restroom and which path not to
take if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, if you're an employee in those areas the tour
and you're getting dressed to go to work and do
your job in a facility where there's a couple different
ways to get a job promotion, if you know what
I mean, she gotta make sure that you're taking You
can't make sure you're taking full advantage. And that's no
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shade to anyone of you know, that's a very attractive
person that's able to do their job. I'm just saying, Yeah,
I will say this, if there was one thing that
Dan Snyder got right when he was the owner of
the Washington then Ridskins was the people that they were
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hiring to do them jobs that was in there in
that building. They were not going to lose in a
beauty contest. I will say that his eyes worked, That's true.
I mean he I mean, I think it ultimately got
them them all, a lot of them in trouble when
it all shook out. But then it started, you certainly
could say I understood why, you know, those things started
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to take place. People get distracted when you're you know,
you talk about camp I. You didn't even need CAMPI.
You didn't even need to live in the world of
camp I walking around that building.
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Mike Tyson, Jake Paul. All right, so that is happening,
and it's happening tonight on Netflix. And so when you
see just sort of you know what, everybody's looking at this,
they're like, ah, is this is going to be a
gimmick fight? Is going to be some sort of a
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circus event. Blah blah blah blah blah. Well they had
their face off yesterday. Most of those are a lot
of you know, yelling and back and forth, maybe a push,
unless you step on Mike Tyson's foot when you get
too close to him, and then he hauls off and
he smacks you, like Mike Tyson did yesterday at the
press conference against Jake Paul. And I don't know about you,
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but I think all that did was help the cause
for people wanting to be interested in this. There's already
a ton of people that have run to the betting
window to try and bet on Mike Tyson because he
hasn't foughten so long. So what has turned out to be,
or what initially was thought to be, Jake Paul fighting
a guy who's close to sixty has now turned into
oh no, that's Mike Tyson, like he will throw if
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you get close to him or you disrespect him, and
he did yesterday, and I feel like that would fire
everybody up for the cement a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You gotta forgive me if I'm claiming kind of semantics
on all of this. You have to forgive me if
I say that this is all a mapped out, planned
approach to what's taking place. I really believe that this
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is a golden opportunity for one reason and one reason only.
I think a moment like that maybe establishes the opportunity
for there to be the conversation going into the fight
that these guys could actually really throw real punches and
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really fight in this exhibition match, or I don't even
know if it really counts, I'm not sure, but doesn't matter.
I would say this.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
My in.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Conclusion to this would ultimately be if somebody if these
if these blows that they throw in this fight tonight
are real, If this looks like Mike Tyson trump, I
don't care if Mike because he is older, I don't
care if he is the impact of his punches don't
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don't affect Paul the way that they did when he
was younger. But if he fights him, like for real,
fights him and you can tell he's really trying to
get after it, and Jake Paul does the same thing,
it sets the stage for if Jake Paul calls into
to action another fight, Like who's to say he doesn't
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call out Evander Holyfield next, or or Antonio Tarvor or
whatever it may be. Who's to say that that doesn't
take place? And if he's if he fights this fight,
if this is a real fight that people come away with,
like damn, they was thumping out there, that's what he
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ultimately they set the stage for. Or but don't think
I don't think for two seconds, Jake Paul didn't tell
Mike like Mike just slapped the s out of me.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Well, I don't see. I don't think that's the key
because I don't think Mike was planning on it. Jake
accidentally stepped on his foot, like when he got close
to him.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Broke on his toe. Let me tell you something, let
me tell you something. I almost feel confident in saying
that's it's a one hundred percent lock. That that was
that was thought out and talked about, like do something
do something that ignites the interest. This is the last
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opportunity to sell this fight, and and it's not going
to be Jake Paul doing that to Mike. So what's
the best next, next best thing? Do something that irritates
Mike where it does what you just said. Oh, he
irritated Iron Mike. Oh, just when I thought was too
old and we weren't going to get Mike Tyson. This
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was going to be like a haha he he exhibition
between one of the greatest heavyweights and boxers of all
time and Jake Paul, who's become a phenomenon from being
a social media influencer to actually a boxer that's really
respected for being a boxer. Man, forget all that Like
that was to me, that was planned out. You can't
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convince me otherwise that was planned out. But now they
set the stage for it to be looked at as
what happens. I think the results of how this fight
go will ultimately dictate if you ever take a Jake
Paul fight seriously or not.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Well. I mean, he said that he wants to call
out Canelo after this fight, says Jake Paul, Our good
luck with that.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
That's that's a yeah, but bro Idea, but is it horrible?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
But is it?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Why? Well horrible? He's got no shot, like, there's no chance. Yeah,
but if he if he goes into this fight and
you really see him throw down against Mike Tyson and
he wins the fight, then it ultimately creates what he's doing,
is he's he's successfully if he executes tonight, you'll say
(29:15):
while you'll say Mike is old and there's no reason
for anyone to ever think that Mike at his age
should be able to beat a young, strong Jake Paul,
it still sets the stage for if he called out
a Canelo and Canelo accepted the fight. Let me ask
you this one, Well, there is what's my man's name, Uh,
(29:41):
I'm blinking on his name, David Dad ben Avetez, Ben
ben avite Benavidez. That that, to me is a mega fight.
If that, if that fight happens between Canelo and Benavitez,
I think I'm saying it right. Is that correct? That's
a mega fight. But outside of that, if Jake Paul
(30:03):
fights his ass off tonight and wins that fight against
Mike Tyson, You're going to put an asterisk because of
the age. But you're gonna say that we should respect
Jake Paul. And now he's taken a page out of
the wrestling book and how to approach promoting a fight
and has married it to the reality and the realness
(30:27):
of how you promote a boxing match, so and married
them together.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, and look, and there's no hate on Jake Paul,
Like I actually respect what he's done, what Logan Paul
has done. For anybody that's never seen Logan Paul wrestle
in WWE, he's unbelievable. Like they've said, Dude, this guy's
got like five six matches and he's his growth in
that situation and they've never seen anybody like it. But
(30:52):
when it comes to Jake Paul, Dude, he's legitimately taking
this seriously. It's not like he's just going out there
and he's half asking it and doing all that. Like,
he's legitimately taking it seriously and training and fighting hard
and putting in his time. The problem is he was
sort of fast tracked. Like when you go to some
of these boxing events for people that don't know, when
you go to these boxing events, before the main event starts,
(31:16):
you have your undercards, and on the undercards are like
these four round fights, and these four round fights are
basically guys that are starting out their career and they're
built up. And that's how boxing's done it for years.
I can remember going to fights and getting there really early,
and you would see these four rounders, and some of
these guys would turn into bigger deals. But that was
sort of the beginning steps. He kind of skipped past
(31:38):
all that and just said, no, I'm gonna make money.
I'll fight MMA fighters who maybe aren't the best's stand
up and that'll be the path that I take to
get into this. But while doing that, he's legitimately trained
and legitimately gotten better, and he's got good skill set,
like he does have a good skill set, like this fight. Look,
the gloves are bigger, the shorter, there's less rounds, Like
(32:03):
there is a catering to the We understand that this
is not you know, a guy who's in his prime
fighting Jake Paul. This is a guy who's close to sixty.
I just come away from yesterday going All they did
was generate more interest, and it was probably there was
probably some intent. Yeah, there was probably some intent there
(32:24):
of course, like let's do a little something. He was
wearing Apparently he had like, you know, gold ear protectors
that he was wearing at the press conference. Like he's
really selling this whole thing. But the other thing they
did that was smart during football season. It's a Friday night,
like throw that bad Boy on a Friday night on Netflix,
(32:44):
and I think they're going to do big numbers. I
think Netflix is going to be thrilled. I just hope
Tyson doesn't get hurt. That's my whole thought.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I mean, I think that's well put because in the end,
what is going to trump the you are a true
avid sports fan, what event tonight is going to trump
watching that? Just I'll order it up on my Netflix.
Don't you have to order that specifically? Or is it
(33:14):
a part of your I think it's just a part
of Netflix. If it's a part of your subscription, why
would you not watch it? Yeah, why would you not
watch that? I mean, honestly, I know I'm gonna watch it.
Why would you not watch it? Like even if like
think about this and you brought up Logan Paul, you
(33:34):
know the reason why Logan Paul is able to skip
that proverbial line is because he's already done the hardest
work of it. All those guys that end up being
in those main events and main matches, it's not because
of their wrestling skills, Jonas, it's because they've been able
to build up their following leading up to getting to
(33:56):
those major matches and major events, but because those are
the brand names that sell the tickets, that sell the
pay per views. You're never going to see a no
name wrestler in WrestleMania be the main guy because they're
not an act that can attract. So what these Paul
brothers have done is they took an unconventional, non non
(34:22):
traditional approach to building up how they're viewed. It's the
same thing Pat McAfee did in media. We're sitting there
and we watched a phenomenon created by McAfee because he
built his audience on his own with his influence within
the social media rams, the non traditional ways of doing media,
(34:46):
and you get the what they what you said to
the people who aren't really paying attention to it. You
skip the line and you go and you become one
of the most powerful people in all the sports because
you've already built your brand to be the main attraction.
And that's what the Paul brothers have been able to do.
(35:08):
It's been brilliant because it first started off and was
sold as a gimmick. These guys aren't really fighters. They
can't really fight the win, Okay, they get out there,
they wouldn't fights. Then it's like, oh, it's a gimmick
because they're paying fighters to take the fall, and this,
that and the other, and this doesn't seem like he's
(35:29):
fighting good enough fighters. But you're not saying he can't fight.
You're never saying I've never heard anybody say, huh, Jake
Paul or Logan Paul, they can't fight. You just hear
them ask questioning like is this real or legit athletes? Okay? Okay.
So now you've started to turn that following that you
(35:50):
built with your social media, with your social media influencer presence.
You've married it into a different category, which is the
combat fighting category, which is the WWF, the wrestling you
know category that's different than just WWF. It's all of that,
and you've taken it into the realm of Netflix, the
(36:13):
streaming community, and made it convenient to watch it. It's brilliant.
What the Paul brothers have built is brilliant. What they've done.
It's not an overnight success situation. It's not something to
be taken lightly. They have masterfully put together a plan
and strategy that they've executed at a high level, and
(36:33):
it culminates to having a moment such as this for tonight,
and I can guarantee you it's going to be a
tremendous success. You will not hear and I'll get to
talk about it first. You will not get to hear
that it was a flop on up on game tomorrow morning,
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Other than that, we don't know exactly what his role
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This a bridge for his return to the NFL or
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I don't know how long this is going to be.
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he like, you can't say that about John Gruden. He
was great on Monday Night Football. He was great with
the the Gruden quarterback room or whatever he had back
in the day. Like this feels like either way, he's
going to be in good shape. Following the messa took
place a couple of years.
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Ago, this feels like a continuation of the election and
who won the election and now you know, John Gruten
gets that opportunity to get back out there in the
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the fake meme that Diddy was going to be party.
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Yeah yeah, yeah he was. I sent it to you.
He's going to be designated designated party. Uh yeah yeah.
The commissioner, dang
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I don't know how the hell they're feeling in Philadelphia
right now, because, uh, I don't know. That game necessarily
instilled a ton of confidence in me and the philidelp
(02:00):
of the Eagles, But give them credit. Uh, Barkley has
been a home run edition to.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
This he has sheesh, what a difference maker. But they
didn't need him in New York. Now they didn't they
They were not a Saquon Barkley away from winning in
New York. There are Daniel Jones away from there. They're
get away from a Daniel Jones away from winning. Damn.
(02:27):
You know, it is what it is. But they're trending
in the right direction. Man. You know the Eagles are
trending in the right direction. For the Commanders, they're a
formidable team. They're they're hitting. Actually, even after looking at
them losing, I think they're trending in the right direction
as well. They just have to learn how to finish games.
(02:49):
And and they might be they they might be a
receiver away from from being able to set themselves apart
to be that next next tier type of team. But
you know, I give I get Dan Quinn a lot
of a lot of credit, Cliff Kingsbury, give those guys
(03:11):
credit because they do have this team going in the
right direction. Like the score I don't think is indicative
of how you know how that game was played. So
when when you look at you know, the totality of
what took place in last night's game, that was to
see who you know, in many cases, I guess, in
(03:34):
many ways defining who is the dominant team in the
NFC East. And I think it still has that look
and that feel that Philly is big brother to the
Washington Commanders. And so Dan Quinn and company are going
to have to continue to address those feelings and address
(03:57):
that approach or or the understanding that Philadelphia believes, no
matter what the scenario is, that they're a more superior
team than the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It felt like it was two different games last night.
There was the game and then there was the game
following Washington's decision to go for it on fourth down
and I kicked the field goal.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It was I mean that that was a very critical play.
I don't get it. Well, the thing about it, the
thing about it, Jonas is let's see it. Let's see
you execute in a way where at least we can
say it was a bad call or it was a
good call. Game is on the line, and you could
(04:46):
have taken the lead, right, you can take the lead
with the field goal. It's one point lead if they
kicked the field goal correct, Yeah, and he bobbles the snap,
bobbles the snap and isn't able to run it for
the first down. It was just that's a tremendously bad
(05:07):
break for the Commanders in that moment because it was
probably the most critical, most pivotal moment turned into that
type of moment for the game because it ultimately that
was that was like the okay, if they don't stop
them on offense, well, if the Commanders on defense doesn't
(05:29):
stop the Philadelphia gas on you know them being on offense,
it totally changes the game. You gotta hold them to
a field goal and now you got to score a touchdown.
I think it was like seven minutes or so left
when this happened. It just I think it was a
deflating moment for the Commanders. And while the defense played
(05:51):
at to me a high level. What's the kid's name, Louvu?
Is that how you pronounce it? Louvu? Number four on defense?
He's a beast. Bro the linebacker on on on their team,
He's a beast. Bobby Bobby Wagner has you know he's
he's he's a productive football player, Hall of Famer, but
(06:14):
they they need they need another another pass rusher, and
they need a younger linebacker.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I mean, you still got it once you get out there.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I came, I came limping in here this morning, like
I had a freaking ingrown toe now or hey, you.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Don't even want to down?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
But again, well it's just yeah, it's nagging you.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, just nagging. So that's age trying to do these
open toe you know slides, which, by the way, I
got They got these like a Marshals for twelve dollars
like three years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I've never seen you in those. There's not a lot
going on. You look like uh, you looks like Bobby
Orchids right now. I really yeah, I need is a rope.
There's my bottle of water in the free on the
way out. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
But nonetheless, the decision for the fourth down call by
Dan Quinning Company, the head coach of the Commanders, spoke
about that following the game, justly to.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Go for it and fourth down and two at the
twenty six bold call. But I would also say we're
prepared for that moment. I don't love the execution, but
we've been an excellent fourth down team, so going into it.
We knew we'd have to take our shots against a
tough division team on the road, and we thought that
was appropriate. One certainly don't like the execution and the result,
but we were prepared for that and being bold into
(07:32):
those moments, knowing we'd have some fourth downs, but that's
when we could fix.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I don't know, I just in that moment, neither offense
has really been able to get in the end zone,
like Philly's got issues with their kicker, because Jake Elliott
was just you know, I mean just wide left all
night long. I just felt like in that spot, in
that moment, kick the field goal, you go up by
a point and then just rely on your defense again,
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and it felt like all the momentum left went to
Philly's direction and they just stomped them out from there
on out. Like the game wasn't close after that.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And you know, another thing that I find interesting about
these games that we're watching. You really could call a
penalty every play, you really could. And it's crazy because
it's like these players are being held to a standard
of playing the game a certain way, but generally speaking,
(08:27):
it's by I guess timing or interpretation or you know,
whatever it may be, the thought process and the reasoning
of these referees when they decide to make a call.
Because I saw some really egregious holds last night. I
just I saw some really just I guess, really really
(08:48):
interesting plays that needed to have possibly a flag throne
and it wasn't thrown. But in some cases, in other
cases on that same play or maybe something then less
than that, you'll see a flag being thrown. So I
think that, you know, obviously there's there's human era or
flaw connected to how games are called. But I still
(09:10):
thought it was a well played game. I mean, obviously
it was a low scoring game at first. I mean
seven to three at halftime. That's they were. You know,
they were battling. You know, it took until the fourth
quarter for them to have that explosion and for Saquon
to get going, and you know, Jalen Hurts to start
finding the receivers, finding some holes in the defense. But
(09:33):
for what it's worth, I think that these are too
strong representatives of the NFC side, and really heading into
the playoffs, I think you got to you know, the
home stretch of this this season. I think that the
Washington commanders have to learn how to finish games. I
think that that's the theme after losing the way that
(09:54):
they did to the Steelers and then back to back
weeks on a primetime game, losing to in a similar manner,
and the Eagles have to stay healthy and their offense
is going to go through sakuon Barkley. Sound familiar. That
was the theme in New York and now that's the
theme and in Philadelphia. Uh, you know the call.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I didn't understand the grabbing of the helmet underneath and
pulling it, and I.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Was trying to understand it. I was assuming because he
didn't grab his face mask like you by it's not
but but is it? You know? I couldn't come up.
I couldn't come up with why they picked it up
because it's almost like if you grabbed him by the
(10:44):
back of his patch. You know that that's a horse
collar tackle. If you grab him by his helmet, and
you can clearly see his fingers go inside the helmet
and in the young man's head jerks when he grabs
a helmet. I thought that was a flag, but again
by I don't know the interpretation of it by rule,
so I know he did not have him by his
(11:06):
face mask, and when he went and hit him up
like the slap across his head to try to grab him,
he did not. He did not yank him. It was
more of his momentum carrying him. His hands went up
in there, and as his hands are coming out, it
turned and his hand came out. So maybe they thought
by interpretation him releasing his head and not just really
(11:30):
just egregiously grabbing him by the helmet and yanking his
neck and pulling his neck around, that it didn't warrant
the call. But again, that's a part of the list
of calls. It's like that was a critical that was
a critical play. Yeah, it's fifteen yards and it turns
into what a second down? It was a first down play.
(11:50):
I believe it turned into a second down and seven,
and I still think they ended up getting the first
down or whatever it may be. But you know, I
just think there's a lot of there's a lot of
gray area with the way these games are being called,
you know, because obviously there are a lot of calls
that you see being made that can make you scratch
your hit, but I think there's even more calls that
(12:12):
aren't made that make me scratch my head.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You know what I do like about Philly though, Like, man,
it doesn't matter what that team's done in the past,
Jake Elliott, whoever. It is, like you're on borrow time,
you have a bad first quarter, they're gonna let you
know about it, like they if Jake, if they would
have lost that game, there would have been a lot
of people very upset with Jake Elliott, very upset and
(12:39):
rightfully so. And I'm not, you know, trying to point
to anybody on this show who might have had a
vested interest in what happened in that game from a
point total standpoint, but nonetheless that was also an issue
for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, I just but I don't know what it is
with Philly.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I come away from that and it feels like they're
playing in slow motion, like offensively. I watch them and
I go, what is this? Like, I just I don't know,
And I think, you know, Tony Gonzalez was saying, I
think this is the best team in the NFC following
the game. You know, I think this is the team
to beat in the NFC.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
They might be. I think if they.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Meet Detroit in the postseason, the Lions would annihilate Philly.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I think they match up very well. Actually I don't
add I don't even think it's close. I think they
match up well because the one thing that Philly has
on their side is that they can They're physical, and
they're and they're they're physical upfront on both sides of
the ball, so they can match the physicality of a Detroit. Now,
(13:41):
the question is is who who is going to play
at the highest level at the quarterback's position. I think
that that's what's going to define it in in the playoffs.
That's obviously what it's going to be defined by the
coaching and by the quarterback play and who wins up
in the trenches. I think Philadelphia has the ability to
(14:03):
be able to match the physicality of Detroit. And while
I do think Detroit is the best team in the
NFC Division, there's still a matchup. There are a matchup parody,
I'll say balance against those two teams. They have a
good running game. They have the ability to be explosive
(14:24):
in the running game, and they can establish to run
both in the past and on the ground. With Sakwon Barkley,
they have enough firepower and balance with big play receivers,
which you did not see you saw it glaring for
Washington yesterday that if they don't get another receiver, which
was interesting that they didn't go for one in the
in trade before the trade deadline. To complement McLaurin. McLaurin,
(14:51):
I think that that you know, that shows that showed
up in the Pittsburgh game and showed up in this game.
But I don't think they get blown out by Detroit
if they play in the playoffs. I think that that's
a very good I believe that is the matchup in
fact in the NFC side of the bracket.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
By the way, I would like to say this to
your point on Washington being able to close out games.
Let's be honest here. This is a six and five
football team, because if you want to credit them for
the win against Chicago, that was more of a gaff
on the Bears part.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
They didn't finish out the game.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And they didn't finish the game because they had that
game under control and in the fourth quarter they melted down,
only to be out melted down by a meltdown in Chicago.
That's whatever the hell happened there on the hail Mary's
So yeah, that that is something to note when it
comes to the Commanders. Yeah, they're seven and four. It's
feel good time in DC, but it's like, man, like
(15:46):
three of the last four games not great.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But I think again, that's that's more of a you're
taking this team in the right direction. And while you'll
say you know that the results are are certainly there
to see that what dan Quinn brought to the table
is of tremendous value, there's still the idea that this
team has to grow and they have to develop and
(16:11):
evolve into what it is that culturally he's trying to
build there.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
There this year was Houston Texans to where nobody last
year saw Houston. Is like, wow, that's a team that
could legitimately win a Super Bowl. They're a playoff team,
they're heading in the right direction, they found their quarterback,
they've got a new culture. But it's just like there's
still more time.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
We say they're even in a better situation than the
Houston Texans, And that's because of the resume of the
head coach. And you know, while he came up short
in Atlanta and had another opportunity but ended up back
as a defensive coordinator, I think his resume as a
coach is understanding of a as a coach, as a
(16:51):
head coach in this league. That experience I think sets
him apart. No shade towards obviously Demico coach coach Ryan's
in Houston, but I do believe that that is the difference,
is the experience. You know. I don't know if that
was what they call it an aberration. I don't know
(17:12):
if that was just a moment in time that Houston
was the team that they were last year. Obviously looking
at what they're Jaydon or not Jaydon Daniels, but what yeah, CJ.
Stroud represented to the Houston Texans last year and how
well he played. He's not quite having that type of
(17:32):
year this year where he's set in the world on fire.
So the idea of it is, is this a building
year for the Commanders or was this a year where
you say, Okay, the league needed to catch up and
understand what Cliff Kingsbury is trying to do on offense.
They're pretty good on defense because of the mind that
(17:52):
Dan Quinn brings to the table. So they had a
really good one year run at it. But now they've
cooled off because there's a book on how they want
to use Jayton Daniels use this offense and how they're
calling the defenses. That remains to be seen. But I
will say being there in person, the feel and the
(18:14):
energy of what's taking place with the commanders is different.
So it doesn't seem like there's the pressure of you
got to walk into the locker room, walk past little
Danny when you're going into the locker room after a
half of football or a game played and you lost,
and now he doesn't want to shake your hand. He's
glaring at everybody walking by, and this and that, meddling
(18:37):
in anything and everything. Like we're hearing about what's going
on in Dallas, this is actually an ownership group that
is praising and giving a ton of credit to this
coaching staff and what they're doing to build this team
and allowing for dan Quinn to really really bring that
positive energy into the building. I didn't even know, you know,
(19:00):
they moved operations out of where the team practices. I
think to me, that is a major piece of all
of this. I know we were talking about in weeks
past the players complaining about the tours taking place through
the facility while they're there working. And while I'll say,
you shouldn't be paying attention or be distracted by outside
(19:24):
you know, forces and things that are you know, taking place.
There is something to be said about being in an
environment that you can call yours, getting your work in,
not having distractions, not walking around like I can recall
walking around in the building, and all our operations pretty
much were in the same building, and I gotta be
honest with you, it was very distracting at times. I mean,
(19:46):
you see some of the people walking in there that's
going into the media side or the sales side, and
you find yourself walking into the media side and the
sales side to walk through in between the cubicles that
just say hello to a couple people, Well, maybe say
hello to everybody along the way, so nobody knows who
you're really walking past cubicles to see. There's a lot
(20:09):
of things that can be distracting. I'm sure there are
people in those tours that are attack bit distracting when
they're walking by as well. So it's the old it's
the old office trick.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You know, if you're here working at a place with
a bunch of cubicles, you know which path to take
to get to the restroom and which path not to
take if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, if you're an employee in those areas the tour
and you're getting dressed to go to work and do
your job in a facility where there's a couple different
ways to get a job promotion, if you know what
I mean, she gotta make sure that you're taking You
can't make sure you're taking full advantage. And that's no
(20:49):
shade to anyone of you know, that's a very attractive
person that's able to do their job. I'm just saying, Yeah,
I will say this, if there was one thing that
Dan Snyder got right when he was the owner of
the Washington then Ridskins was the people that they were
(21:11):
hiring to do them jobs that was in there in
that building. They were not going to lose in a
beauty contest. I will say that his eyes worked, That's true.
I mean he I mean, I think it ultimately got
them them all, a lot of them in trouble when
it all shook out. But then it started, you certainly
could say I understood why, you know, those things started
(21:35):
to take place. People get distracted when you're you know,
you talk about camp I. You didn't even need CAMPI.
You didn't even need to live in the world of
camp I walking around that building.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
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Mike Tyson, Jake Paul. All right, so that is happening,
and it's happening tonight on Netflix. And so when you
see just sort of you know what, everybody's looking at this,
they're like, ah, is this is going to be a
gimmick fight? Is going to be some sort of a
(24:02):
circus event. Blah blah blah blah blah. Well they had
their face off yesterday. Most of those are a lot
of you know, yelling and back and forth, maybe a push,
unless you step on Mike Tyson's foot when you get
too close to him, and then he hauls off and
he smacks you, like Mike Tyson did yesterday at the
press conference against Jake Paul. And I don't know about you,
(24:23):
but I think all that did was help the cause
for people wanting to be interested in this. There's already
a ton of people that have run to the betting
window to try and bet on Mike Tyson because he
hasn't foughten so long. So what has turned out to be,
or what initially was thought to be, Jake Paul fighting
a guy who's close to sixty has now turned into
oh no, that's Mike Tyson, like he will throw if
(24:45):
you get close to him or you disrespect him, and
he did yesterday, and I feel like that would fire
everybody up for the cement a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You gotta forgive me if I'm claiming kind of semantics
on all of this. You have to forgive me if
I say that this is all a mapped out, planned
approach to what's taking place. I really believe that this
(25:16):
is a golden opportunity for one reason and one reason only.
I think a moment like that maybe establishes the opportunity
for there to be the conversation going into the fight
that these guys could actually really throw real punches and
(25:36):
really fight in this exhibition match, or I don't even
know if it really counts, I'm not sure, but doesn't matter.
I would say this.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
My in.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Conclusion to this would ultimately be if somebody if these
if these blows that they throw in this fight tonight
are real, If this looks like Mike Tyson trump, I
don't care if Mike because he is older, I don't
care if he is the impact of his punches don't
(26:12):
don't affect Paul the way that they did when he
was younger. But if he fights him, like for real,
fights him and you can tell he's really trying to
get after it, and Jake Paul does the same thing,
it sets the stage for if Jake Paul calls into
to action another fight, Like who's to say he doesn't
(26:35):
call out Evander Holyfield next, or or Antonio Tarvor or
whatever it may be. Who's to say that that doesn't
take place? And if he's if he fights this fight,
if this is a real fight that people come away with,
like damn, they was thumping out there, that's what he
(26:58):
ultimately they set the stage for. Or but don't think
I don't think for two seconds, Jake Paul didn't tell
Mike like Mike just slapped the s out of me.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Well, I don't see. I don't think that's the key
because I don't think Mike was planning on it. Jake
accidentally stepped on his foot, like when he got close
to him.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Broke on his toe. Let me tell you something, let
me tell you something. I almost feel confident in saying
that's it's a one hundred percent lock. That that was
that was thought out and talked about, like do something
do something that ignites the interest. This is the last
(27:41):
opportunity to sell this fight, and and it's not going
to be Jake Paul doing that to Mike. So what's
the best next, next best thing? Do something that irritates
Mike where it does what you just said. Oh, he
irritated Iron Mike. Oh, just when I thought was too
old and we weren't going to get Mike Tyson. This
(28:03):
was going to be like a haha he he exhibition
between one of the greatest heavyweights and boxers of all
time and Jake Paul, who's become a phenomenon from being
a social media influencer to actually a boxer that's really
respected for being a boxer. Man, forget all that Like
that was to me, that was planned out. You can't
(28:26):
convince me otherwise that was planned out. But now they
set the stage for it to be looked at as
what happens. I think the results of how this fight
go will ultimately dictate if you ever take a Jake
Paul fight seriously or not.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Well. I mean, he said that he wants to call
out Canelo after this fight, says Jake Paul, Our good
luck with that.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
That's that's a yeah, but bro Idea, but is it horrible?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
But is it?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Why? Well horrible? He's got no shot, like, there's no chance. Yeah,
but if he if he goes into this fight and
you really see him throw down against Mike Tyson and
he wins the fight, then it ultimately creates what he's doing,
is he's he's successfully if he executes tonight, you'll say
(29:15):
while you'll say Mike is old and there's no reason
for anyone to ever think that Mike at his age
should be able to beat a young, strong Jake Paul,
it still sets the stage for if he called out
a Canelo and Canelo accepted the fight. Let me ask
you this one, Well, there is what's my man's name, Uh,
(29:41):
I'm blinking on his name, David Dad ben Avetez, Ben
ben avite Benavidez. That that, to me is a mega fight.
If that, if that fight happens between Canelo and Benavitez,
I think I'm saying it right. Is that correct? That's
a mega fight. But outside of that, if Jake Paul
(30:03):
fights his ass off tonight and wins that fight against
Mike Tyson, You're going to put an asterisk because of
the age. But you're gonna say that we should respect
Jake Paul. And now he's taken a page out of
the wrestling book and how to approach promoting a fight
and has married it to the reality and the realness
(30:27):
of how you promote a boxing match, so and married
them together.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, and look, and there's no hate on Jake Paul,
Like I actually respect what he's done, what Logan Paul
has done. For anybody that's never seen Logan Paul wrestle
in WWE, he's unbelievable. Like they've said, Dude, this guy's
got like five six matches and he's his growth in
that situation and they've never seen anybody like it. But
(30:52):
when it comes to Jake Paul, Dude, he's legitimately taking
this seriously. It's not like he's just going out there
and he's half asking it and doing all that. Like,
he's legitimately taking it seriously and training and fighting hard
and putting in his time. The problem is he was
sort of fast tracked. Like when you go to some
of these boxing events for people that don't know, when
you go to these boxing events, before the main event starts,
(31:16):
you have your undercards, and on the undercards are like
these four round fights, and these four round fights are
basically guys that are starting out their career and they're
built up. And that's how boxing's done it for years.
I can remember going to fights and getting there really early,
and you would see these four rounders, and some of
these guys would turn into bigger deals. But that was
sort of the beginning steps. He kind of skipped past
(31:38):
all that and just said, no, I'm gonna make money.
I'll fight MMA fighters who maybe aren't the best's stand
up and that'll be the path that I take to
get into this. But while doing that, he's legitimately trained
and legitimately gotten better, and he's got good skill set,
like he does have a good skill set, like this fight. Look,
the gloves are bigger, the shorter, there's less rounds, Like
(32:03):
there is a catering to the We understand that this
is not you know, a guy who's in his prime
fighting Jake Paul. This is a guy who's close to sixty.
I just come away from yesterday going All they did
was generate more interest, and it was probably there was
probably some intent. Yeah, there was probably some intent there
(32:24):
of course, like let's do a little something. He was
wearing Apparently he had like, you know, gold ear protectors
that he was wearing at the press conference. Like he's
really selling this whole thing. But the other thing they
did that was smart during football season. It's a Friday night,
like throw that bad Boy on a Friday night on Netflix,
(32:44):
and I think they're going to do big numbers. I
think Netflix is going to be thrilled. I just hope
Tyson doesn't get hurt. That's my whole thought.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I mean, I think that's well put because in the end,
what is going to trump the you are a true
avid sports fan, what event tonight is going to trump
watching that? Just I'll order it up on my Netflix.
Don't you have to order that specifically? Or is it
(33:14):
a part of your I think it's just a part
of Netflix. If it's a part of your subscription, why
would you not watch it? Yeah, why would you not
watch that? I mean, honestly, I know I'm gonna watch it.
Why would you not watch it? Like even if like
think about this and you brought up Logan Paul, you
(33:34):
know the reason why Logan Paul is able to skip
that proverbial line is because he's already done the hardest
work of it. All those guys that end up being
in those main events and main matches, it's not because
of their wrestling skills, Jonas, it's because they've been able
to build up their following leading up to getting to
(33:56):
those major matches and major events, but because those are
the brand names that sell the tickets, that sell the
pay per views. You're never going to see a no
name wrestler in WrestleMania be the main guy because they're
not an act that can attract. So what these Paul
brothers have done is they took an unconventional, non non
(34:22):
traditional approach to building up how they're viewed. It's the
same thing Pat McAfee did in media. We're sitting there
and we watched a phenomenon created by McAfee because he
built his audience on his own with his influence within
the social media rams, the non traditional ways of doing media,
(34:46):
and you get the what they what you said to
the people who aren't really paying attention to it. You
skip the line and you go and you become one
of the most powerful people in all the sports because
you've already built your brand to be the main attraction.
And that's what the Paul brothers have been able to do.
(35:08):
It's been brilliant because it first started off and was
sold as a gimmick. These guys aren't really fighters. They
can't really fight the win, Okay, they get out there,
they wouldn't fights. Then it's like, oh, it's a gimmick
because they're paying fighters to take the fall, and this,
that and the other, and this doesn't seem like he's
(35:29):
fighting good enough fighters. But you're not saying he can't fight.
You're never saying I've never heard anybody say, huh, Jake
Paul or Logan Paul, they can't fight. You just hear
them ask questioning like is this real or legit athletes? Okay? Okay.
So now you've started to turn that following that you
(35:50):
built with your social media, with your social media influencer presence.
You've married it into a different category, which is the
combat fighting category, which is the WWF, the wrestling you
know category that's different than just WWF. It's all of that,
and you've taken it into the realm of Netflix, the
(36:13):
streaming community, and made it convenient to watch it. It's brilliant.
What the Paul brothers have built is brilliant. What they've done.
It's not an overnight success situation. It's not something to
be taken lightly. They have masterfully put together a plan
and strategy that they've executed at a high level, and
(36:33):
it culminates to having a moment such as this for tonight,
and I can guarantee you it's going to be a
tremendous success. You will not hear and I'll get to
talk about it first. You will not get to hear
that it was a flop on up on game tomorrow morning,
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Coast time Pacific, or twelve noon to two pm if
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We haven't seen this done in the NFL in quite
some time, but apparently it may be happening in this year,
well within the next we'll call it six months. All right,
this could be going down in the next six months.
(37:47):
We'll get into that discussion for you here could be
a game changer for one franchise here in just a
little over ten minutes from now.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
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Speaker 5 (38:12):
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Hey guys, in case you missed this, Hey Brady, good
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Speaker 2 (38:29):
Brady.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Oh no, hey guys, oh no, In case you missed
this three years after that email scandal with the NFL,
sixty one year old John.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Gruden has now he's back. He's back, but not the
way he might be thinking.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
He has joined Barstool Sports and a promotion they have
shown he's breaking down a play called Spider White two Banana.
Other than that, we don't know exactly what his role
will be with the company, but he is back in
the limelight.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I mean, listen, you know, is.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
This a bridge for his return to the NFL or
is this just him being like, look, I'm still going
through litigation with this crap.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I don't know how long this is going to be.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Why don't just he was great in the media, like
he like, you can't say that about John Gruden. He
was great on Monday Night Football. He was great with
the the Gruden quarterback room or whatever he had back
in the day. Like this feels like either way, he's
going to be in good shape. Following the messa took
place a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Ago, this feels like a continuation of the election and
who won the election and now you know, John Gruten
gets that opportunity to get back out there in the
forefront of boy the media. Boy that's what the skeptics
in this cool feu well say. I just thought i'd
(39:50):
say what. Probably some people are actually taking Barslool's taking
advantage of sowing. John Ruton, Oh boy, you.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
See you see you see the meme that went out,
the fake meme that Diddy was going to be party.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah he was. I sent it to you.
He's going to be designated designated party. Uh yeah yeah.
The commissioner, dang
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