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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Tuesday edition. We had a Can't Get Right Bowl
in the NFL last night. We will discuss of all
the ways for the Dallas Cowboys to lose another game
that was it and it feels like a wasted year
for Joe Burrow and the Bengals. We'll ask Pete Prisco
over here thoughts on that as well. Two plus his
thoughts on his Arizona State Sun Devils, who are in
(00:22):
the college football Playoff. We've got ourselves, some drama in Philly,
some drama in Philly, and somebody that you wouldn't expect
stirt it all back up on Monday night. We're also
going to have a discussion about Aaron Rodgers and what
he's going through. Bill Belichick serious interest in going to
North Carolina. We'll get into that. Plus, we've got another
edition of In case you missed it, We've got Lee's Leftovers.
(00:45):
It's all yours coming up next here, Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe on a Tuesday, Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 3 (01:04):
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Speaker 1 (01:07):
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I mean that sounds alright to me if you.
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Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So I was trying to figure out who was the
more can't get right team this season between the Cowboys
and the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well they pulled it off right, Yeah, and twenty seven
put a face to it.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You know what. Congratulations of the Dallas Cowboys. You one
that can't get right bowl last night? I won and
at football, job well done.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Michael wasn't happy about that either, bad way. He was
not happy about that can't get right lost by.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Job well done. Blocked the punt in a critical moment
about to win the game, only the muffet pulling a
leon let from years and years and years ago. And
then Cincinnati gets the ball back and Jamar Chase scores
and that'll do it. Folks have fun, drive home safely.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
But talk about a roller coaster rout of emotions. Shuah
lee on both sides, right, I mean your Cincinnati you're like,
oh whoa, especially they were confused, especially this year because
Cincinnati has had so many losses late.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
To where you're like, oh, that's a hard breaker. No,
that one's worse than the last. No, like Cincinnati's been
in spots this year to where you go, Man, if
this team could ever just close out a game, they
would be a problem in the postseason. And so that's
a moment in which always seemingly would have gone against
Cincinnati this year, and instead it goes against Dallas at home.
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Before this stuff usually happens to Dallas, Zach Taylor looked
like he'd seen a ghost.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, he was like, I don't think he really wanted
to he knew what it was. I don't think he
wanted to accept that. That's what it was like.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It was a ghost of the winning lottery. Ticulate, Wait
what wait, Hold on a second.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Wait you said, you said, I what wait?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You said, I wan we got we got the benefit
of the doubt there.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I said, what wait, wait, say that one more time?
He had the dumb found it look, and Micah Micah
had the say what next? You said? Who that? Yeah,
he just did. He said wait, wait, no, say it
isn't true. No, say it isn't so that that was.
That was Mike's face on.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeahline, you want to hear a little Micah post, Oh yeah,
let's do it. Speaking of speaking of sticks, here was
Michael Parson's following the game.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I wasn't even really grasping what was going on. Nick
made a great play, and uh, then you know, I
asked to rect you know what happened to me that
we touched the ball. There was definitely a huge momentum shift.
I mean, we just got a huge stop. We're going
to two minute drill. It's just real hard to you,
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you think, to believe you could pull that game out
from that situation.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
That hurts. It seemed like we're paying a dude.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
That's not fair, you know, I don't I don't know
if it's bad luck karma, you know, tell me we
hold Joe Burrow the twenty points and two minutes off.
With our offense, the way he was moving the ball today,
I think we could.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Win the game.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So that sounds like.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
That wasn't too bad. He had himself together there good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I mean he got a little emotional talking about an injury,
you know, to his teammate, uh elsewhere. But he walked
off the field.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
He turned his ankle again last night.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, he walked off the field, just incredulous with and
I was thinking about it and seeing and you guys
have talked about this, you and Brady like Michael Parson
is one of the best players at his position in
the league. He's having a down year because of the
injuries and all that, but I mean he's still a
great player that's got to be a really frustrating thing
to be a great player who can have such an
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impact on a game, but just not enough for you
to like win games, and yet you still go out
and play at a high level and only to see
random occurrences like that happen and it goes the other
way and you guys lose again at home like that
and embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
At least he's recognized as one of the greats in
the game before you got to the point of, you know,
your team being discussed in the way that they're being discussed.
I mean, that's how I would look at it. I mean,
he he has he has tremendous value, you know, so
when you look at where he's at, I don't think
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anyone would question if they're winning and losing based off
of a handful of players. Ceedee Lamb is on that list.
He was upset. Michael Parsons is on that list. He
was upset. So you actually want guys like that if
they're on your team, you want them to be upset,
you know you do. And and that's you know, to me,
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I think that when when when you see a leader
of a team not be upset and not bothered, that's
when you need to start worrying, because that's when you
know it's their self preservation that is kicking in Jonas
and the idea that you know, your big guns look
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at look at what's going on from a different lens
of you know, just just wanting to overachieve and wanting
to win. That's I think that that's when now you
got to start looking at your coaching staff. And that's
when you say, all right, does this guy still have
control of the locker room? And and that's you know,
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if I'm Mike McCarthy, the one thing that I would
be happy about if I were in this scenario is
that my stars are still getting frustrated and upset. Now,
if that frustration and that being upset turns into them saying,
you know what, like what's going on in Philadelphia, but
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towards a coach, then you got to assume that that's
not that's not going to be a good thing. But otherwise,
I mean, you gotta be happy that your your big
guns are frustrated and upset that they didn't win the game.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
It's got to be frustrating though if your Cincinnati because
you see like Burrows having the best year of his career,
and it's kind of a waste because they're not going
to go to the postseason and they've been battling and
come up short in so many games this year that
they're gonna be on the outside looking in. And yet
you look at that team and you look at that
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the threat of Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, Like Jamar
Chase is unbelievable, Like just to see and what he's
going to garner on the open market and what he's
gonna or what he's gonna get from Cincinnati, because I
don't think he'll hit the open market.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I'm about to say, you think they're gonna allow him
all to market, I would be shocked.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So they'll they'll figure out a way to get that done.
But you look at that team and you go, man,
there's a couple of those games you go back on,
Like right now they're three games out of the final
playoff spot.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
A couple of.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Those games go the other way. Games they should have
won and they.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Didn't exactly you know they didn't. And but one one
person you can't blame it on is Jamar Chase. Another
person you can't blame it on is Joe Burrow. I mean,
when you look at the way that they've played during
the course of the season, you'd have to assume that
those guys have given you performances that would would lend
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to winning the game and give it up to Hendrickson.
I mean, they could have still made a run to
go get the touchdown that they needed. You know, uh
Rush was getting rushed and he did not have the
opportunity to get his feet set to to make good
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solid decisions throwing the ball. I mean, he was under duress,
and the receivers can get upset and they could be
you know, bothered by the fact that you know, Rush
was delivering the ball the wrong way in that moment,
but you know that offensive line didn't hold up for
him and give him the fair opportunity to do it.
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So when you look at how when you look at
how they came through for them. Speaking of the Cincinnati
Bengals defense in the crunch time, in the clutch for them,
you know, and obviously holding Dallas to twenty points, you know,
you hold a team to twenty points, you had a
good outing and and so but again, like like Mike
(10:13):
I said, I mean they held the Bengals to twenty points,
that was a good outing and to have it, you know,
close out the way that it did against them, you
know that that one's a that's got to be a
hard one to you know.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Swallow Trey Hendrickson, who's leading the NFL in sacks. That
was a guy who you know, he was another one
of those trying to get a deal done before the season.
They don't want to do it, Yeah, they didn't. They
didn't want to pay him. They didn't get a long
term deal for t Higgins done, they didn't get a
long term deal for Jamar Chase done. So yeah, they've
got question marks as well too going into next year.
(10:50):
But I look at her and go, damn, I just
I can't help but think, if you're a Bengals fan,
how frustrating this year must have been. Because who the
hell wants to see Joe Burrow in the postseason. He's
one of two guys that's beaten Patrick Mahomes in a
playoff game. The other was Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Like you know, and you know what's interesting, uh just
hearing hearing hearing Colin Cowherd like hearing his his his
one kind of his take on you know, Josh Allen
versus you know Patrick Mahomes and if you put up
five touchdowns, you know Patrick Mahomes doesn't lose. But what's
(11:30):
going on with with you know, with with the quarterback
and in Buffalo, it's just kind of like, why would
you reign on Josh Allen for that when it's it's
all three phases of the game that play a part
in winning a game. They say, you win two phases
of a game and you're going to most likely win
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the game. Joe Burrow, much like Josh Allen, has played
MVP level football. But if your defense doesn't play MVP defense,
or your special teams as Aaron Rodgers, as the New
York Jets, if your special teams don't deliver. Ask the
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Ravens and one of their letdown games, right, If the
special teams doesn't come through for you and you lose
that phase of the game, then you will lose the game.
Or I don't give it down who your quarterback is?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Okay, So I know that they're going to say all
the right things publicly and listen, when does a team
loses a team? All of that crap that we hear
all the time, but you've been on teams where you've
done your part and somebody around you hasn't. You're not
giving them the side eye, or there's not a conversation
behind closed doors. It's not in front of the media
when it comes to hey man, like I'm out here
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doing my part, where the hell are you? Like nobody
has those discussions or nobody's giving them a dirty look,
like what's happening here? How do you not make that
play at that point, especially when I'm having the best
season of my career.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I mean, if it's if it is a if it's
if it's a kicker, you're going to feel a certain
type of way about them. And I mean it's just
kind of it is what it is. It is what
it is. You look at the kicker or you know,
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you know what's sad about you know what's sad about
a Rurie. You know he's a penn stater man, And
I can't believe that we would have a penn stater
or can't get right at one of the biggest moments
in the game. But that that's here north there. I
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just think that when you when you have somebody like
a kicker or a punter or a long snapper mess
up the game, like mess up their part of the game.
I think it kind of. I think the pain of
that disappointment it's so hard and cuts so deep, and
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and that person in particular, that you really don't even
need to do anything. You really don't need to look
at him crazy because they already know that they looked crazy.
You really don't have to scream at him because they
already know that they did something crazy. Man, what's wrong
with you? Man? And I think that at the end,
(14:22):
when it comes down to it, when it comes down
to it, I never was one to get into the kickers'
faces or anything like that do anything crazy. But in
my mind, I would be sitting there like, God, dang bro,
like all you do is kick like that punter. That
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punter allowed that ball to get blocked at the biggest
moment of the day. Now, granted they released the dude,
let the dude run free, but you got one job
to do, and that's get that ball off and don't
let it get Like the worst case scenario in that
moment for Dallas would have been to allow or for
for Cincinnati would have been for them to allow Dallas
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to come free and block a part. And that's what
they did. So to me, I you know, Jonas those moments,
there are some dudes that be like, man, I'm gonna
f you up, you little mother, this, that and the other.
There are some that can handle it, but for others,
it's just kind of like, you know that the pain
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cuts so deep because that's all they do. It's like
you're waiting your turn, and your turn comes when you
score touchdown or you get into scoring position. And it's
interesting because it's a very very lonely job. It's a
very very lonely job. That moment where that ball is
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snapped and you got to step up to it and
you got to kick it. All eyes are on you
for that. It's not you trying to complete a path.
It's not you running the ball down the field, catching
the ball for a touchdown. All eyes are on you
to see if you can use your foot to get
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this ball through these big ass uprights and give the
team points that they need. Like that's you know, that's
a lot of pressure. Yeah, well it's a lot of loss,
but that's the only pressure you have on you, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, that's true. A lot of losses for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I know that it is.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here Fox Sports Radio,
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as we take you all the way up again until
nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. But apparently we
have some reasoning as to why one team in the
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NFL they might have a bigger problem than just this
upcoming week or the eight week after that or potential
playoff run. We got issues we'll discuss right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
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Speaker 3 (17:20):
I can't wait for the twenty fifth to be Oh
do we still play Christmas music after Christmas until after
New Year?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I don't think so. Please hurry nine pm Christmas Day
is when I get to stop.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Please hurry.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
This is is that nine pm Pacific or oh my gosh,
I'm assuming that's nine pm Pacific, so it's midnight Eastern.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Way, can I borrow your coffin? Please? Well, here's okay,
sleep until the nine o'clock of Christmas.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
The problem is is that it's all the news school
Christmas stuff like this. You just got to go with
the classics. If you throw in the classics, like bing
Crosby or whatever that guy's name is, you're fine. Everything's
going to be fine.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Because you're like forced to tolerate it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, it's you right here, man.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I'm jumping. If I was on a bridge right now,
I would probably jump. Damn. Yeah, I probably jump. Like
I probably look down and I'm definitely afraid of heights,
and I would look down, and I'd be listening to
this song. And if somebody was playing this song and
I couldn't escape the song, I would most likely jump. Well, hey, listen,
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just let you know how how serious, like like how
Micah felt yesterday, if Micah had a bridge that he
could jump off of, yes, he would have jumped. Well,
he would have jumped.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I know this here on two pros and a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
You know, brouh.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
We are going to bridge our way all the way
to another edition of in case you missed it in
about twenty minutes from now okay, and we are going
to find out where are they now somebody that's been
discussed on this show several times before. We are going
to get an update on their career coming up here.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
We talked about Berto here on FSR.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
We know where he is. By the way, who If
anybody out there ever feels like their algorithm is a
little screwy, just check out Burtos. He fires off stuff
every day to me and I'm like, I don't even
know what they're saying, but damn, that's a bit much,
all right, So let's get into this. There was some
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commentary from all this from AJ Brown, who postgame on Sunday,
despite the win for Philly over Carolina in a game
they struggled in offensively, basically said, you know, the passing
game is an issue. He was very frustrated. Davante Smith
pointed out it's hard to get into a rhythm when
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you're only throwing the ball twenty times a game, so
on and so forth, and so there's been some wondering
in the past about Hey, is there any sort of
issue going on there? AJ Brown doesn't seem happy yet.
They re upped his deal in the off season, Craig
Carton of FS one, and he pointed out in a
report that was shot down by Adam Schefter, Craig Carton
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pointed out that, hey, listen, I'm hearing their stuff inside
the locker room. That would splinter and damage any man's relationship,
which was kind of cryptic, and you know, Schefter and
Company kind of, you know, dismissed that, and Corner sort
of gave it the side. And then all of a sudden,
Brandon Graham, who is out for the year with the injury,
respected veteran there been there for over a decade in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Was I thought it was artificial intelligence? Man, I really did.
I could believe that he said this.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, so Brandon Graham was talking on WIP and Philly
Keep might be still an active member of the roster.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Keep in mind, I frustrated Q beyond belief yesterday when
I told him that there was no Maybe it wasn't
what we thought it was in terms of beef towards
you know, Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown and that being
a thing for real. Q, You're not on the show today,
but I apologize you were more than correct on this one.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Gram felt like, hey, screw it, why don't we just
have an honest conversation here, and had this to say.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I don't know the whole story, but I know that
one is trying. And I mean, I Levin could be
a little better with how he respond to things, and
they was friends before this. It's like, man, but things
have changed. And I understand that because life happens. But
we got to it's the business side that we have
to make sure that we don't let the personal get
(21:28):
in the way of the business. And that's what we
got to do better as right now, because we know
it's an issue. Everybody's seen with some things. But we
need to be able to talk talk things out as men.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
But we need to let personal stuff go and and
let's get right for this game, because man, it's like
a lot of stuff. Most of the time, it's just
a conversation that just need to be had. But the
person with the problem gotta want to talk to the
person other than others.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Oh that's all.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I'm saying, all right, So now just in fairness, Okay,
in fairness, is.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
This man teaching kindergarten class? Man, them dudes must be
up there acting real childish, man, it must it must
be real childish, because that's gotta be the tone you
take when you talking to kids. Man. So I thought
it was artificial intelligence. Oh God, I promise I did.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I was shocked that because like you'll hear k and
we can get into the whole.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You know, this stirred up that Donovan McNabb, Torello and stuff.
You know that's only twenty years old. But who cares.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
But well, like they took the opportunity to get themselves. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
But like I look at it and I go, if
this was somebody who was playing there eight ten years
ago or somebody who was you know, I can understand
being like, okay, I mean, they're not in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
What do they know.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's Brandon Graham. He's like one of the most respective
members in the history of the organization. He won a
Super Bowl there for Christ, Like this is he's there.
He's a present, current member of the roster. But in fairness,
he did speak with Tim McManus a ESPN dot Com
after these comments came out yesterday that I think everybody
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was shocked by and said quote, I made a mistake,
and I assumed that it was something that it wasn't.
I just want to win so bad that I don't
just want to use the media when we need to
talk about something and we can fix the problems ourselves.
I didn't add it in a good light, So that's
my bad. I just assumed, and it made me out
to look even worse because I had it all wrong,
and now people are going to run with that part.
(23:36):
I really just want to win, man, and I want
brothers to be able to just hash it out. So
you didn't really like say, hey, listen, I got it
completely wrong.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
No, that's from Brandon Grant. Yes, can I just say this?
Can I just say this? When I was again, when
I was listening to it, I was like, this isn't real.
This isn't real. And you know, in the day and
age that we live in, there's so much stuff that
could be AI generated that when I was listening to it,
I was tripping out. Bro. I was like, wait, hold on, like,
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this is not this is not branding, this is not him,
This isn't him, It's not now it turns out that
it was like, first off, I could have told I
could have told the young og because I'm an old
og now I could have told the young og. Hey
man like, lead that one alone, you know, leave even
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acknowledging that a beef exists or there's a problem that
exists and all that stuff. Lead that alone, because there's
no possible way you can you can retread it and
make it sound any better. There's no possible way in
beefs that if you get involved in it and you
say something about it, that it can be you know,
(24:59):
deciphered or or or you know, kind of absorbed as
this is a good thing, like something good could come
out of this, Like it doesn't happen that way. And
and so when I was listening to it, it just sounded
like somebody who it must have got really like bro,
it must have got really, really really heated. It must
(25:20):
have got so heated that you felt like he felt
like in the moment he couldn't even like where they're
at right now, there's so much known information internally, even
by by beat writers, that he couldn't. He had to
he had to say something, and.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
He almost assumed because you heard him in the in
the initial clips say, I mean, you know it's already
out there everybody. Well, no, we didn't know that, Like,
we didn't know that a player was going to come
out to confirm it.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
That's what I'm saying. I think I think it must
be confirmed in local local beat writer form.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I mean, it's got to be or beat reporter form.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It must. And you know Philly is known for They're
known for it. You know there's gonna be some B
four it's gonna play out the way that this is
playing out a little bit. I mean, it's gone way
further than this, and in terms of coverage of drama
that plays out with players in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
And the other layer to it is it's not like
he's saying, yeah, both these guys just need to get
it together, Like he specifically said, one better. Jalen Hurts
is trying and AJ Brown needs to do better. Boy,
that's a good approach.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
To take with the wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
He's already been pissed off about his role and how
much you know input he has in the offense that
they won the.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Game, of course, and they have a player that is
in the conversation for MVP. Yeah, like something. Listen. Like
I said yesterday on the show, I understand receivers. There's
never been a receiver that's ever caught enough balls. They
never got enough targets. There's never enough for a receiver.
(26:59):
But when you turn it into drama, this team is
on like what a twelve game winning streak something like
that right now.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
You're you're arguably the best team in the NFC outside
of maybe Detroit, maybe Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You've got a shot at the one seed.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Come on, man, I don't I don't understand. I don't
understand what why this should become like a thing where
you have a formula that's working, like it's working. Whatever
it is y'all are doing, it's working. Why would you
It's it's almost like to me when I when I
(27:40):
listen to what's going on, it's almost like AJ Brown
thinks he's Ralph Treasment of new Addition, you know, or
he's Otis from from the Temptations, Right, it's got to
be the Temptations and or are not Otis But David Ruffin, Right,
it's like it's it's the Temptations and David Ruffin, I think, right,
(28:01):
it's like it's new addition, and Ralph Tresvan right, but
in this moment, this is a Ralph Tresvent moment because
Aj Brown is acting like a man with sensitivity. He's
too sensitive right now. As my man Fred Smooth would say,
sensitive thugs need hugs. Somebody needs to give AJ Brown
(28:22):
a hug and tell him everything's gonna be okay, My
g We're winning. Saquon is getting all the girls. I
don't know if he's married or not. I know Saquon is.
I think he's married. I don't know. It doesn't matter.
Everybody wants a piece of Saquon right now. Maybe they're
not flocking to you bird Gang intended, maybe they're not
(28:45):
coming your way as as much as you like. But
the bottom line is rising tides raise all ships. And
right now you're trying to sink it because they say
loose lips sink And I'm just saying, whatever it is
you got going on, Aj, I respect your game. I
(29:06):
don't know him, I don't know who you are, but
I'm just saying, like, get it, get it where you
get it, get it where you get it. Encourage them
because doing it this way, I never saw a receiver
quarterback situation play out where it made it better because
(29:26):
the receiver had direct beef or outside in the media
beef with that that quarterback. I've never seen it play out.
Well ever, I was thinking this too. And you've done
these players shows where it's you know, the LeVar Arrington Show,
or it's the so and so Show, and you'll go
to a live remote shot at me.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well no, I'm saying no, no. But my point is
is that when you hear, for the most part, when
you hear a player during the season on an active
roster have his own show on a radio station or
do his thing, it's because it's a paid hit, like
Tom Brady made a bunch of money going on in
New England. I think it was wee I for years.
(30:08):
I just I also wondered this. They were at a
public setting, maybe at a couple of cocktails. Okay, Like
I'm just I'm just saying they're at a public setting.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
He's at a couple.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
He's out for the year. You know, Monday night football's
coming up. It's a bad game. Everybody needs to get
on the liverloop a little bit just to be able
to tolerate some mediocre football teams and maybe Brandon Graham
was slamming, you know, a couple of Philly cheese steaks
and he washed it down with like an IPA or two.
That's that. That was my other thought on this, because
I cannot believe that he thought this was the ro you.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Thought he was on site, I don't know. I mean,
if he was on site, maybe a couple of fans,
because you know Eagles fans that the most beloved players,
and a guy like Graham their beloved because they interact
and they connect integrate with the fan base really really well.
And I know that fan base very well because it's
a Penn State fan base as well. Also they're passionate people,
(31:08):
and you can find yourself, you can find yourself in
the moment like yeah, you're right, yup, you know what,
You're right, Hey, you're right, Yeah, you know what. And
then they put the phone, put the camera or the
microphone in front of him, and he was still in
your right he was still in that your right mode.
I'm just telling you. It sounded like he was already
(31:31):
like he was giving an account of something bad that
happened just then, just now. And I know that's not
what it was, but the way he was talking. It
was like, guys, like, guys, you know we're gonna get
We're gonna get in trouble. You do know that this
is something that's gonna get us all in trouble. We're
(31:54):
all gonna get in trouble. Can you can you please? Guys?
Can y'all please stop? You remember that? Look, you got brothers, right,
if you're if you're an only child, or if you
ain't never had a close like a close group of friends,
you might not be able to relate to this. But
I'm telling you that's what Brandon Graham sound like, Like, Bro,
(32:17):
can you please handle this better? Because if you're gonna
make it bad for all of us?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah, because if one brother's being an a hole and
the parents are frustrated everybody's getting it, They're not gonna
they're gonna just punish one of them. They're gonna say, oh, well,
you could have done something to stop it too. It's like, Mom,
I'm eight.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
That's what it sounded. That's what play again, play play
branded again. It's sound like we all gonna get in
trouble if you don't do better.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Man, brand.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
I don't know the whole story, but I know that
one is trying, and I mean, I live in could be.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
A little better. Mama told him not to.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
And they was friends before this, but things have changed.
And I understand that because life happens. But we gotta
it's the business side that we have to make sure
that we don't let.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
The personal trouble Senaclous still coming right.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
You gotta do better right now because we know it's
an issue everybody seeing some things.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
But we need to listen, be able to talk talk.
They need to be able to talk these things out.
Y'all don't need to get We need to let personal
stuff go.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
And we're gonna let's get right for this game, because man,
it's like a lot of stuff. Most of the time,
it's just a conversation that just need to be had.
But the person with the problem gotta want to talk
to the person other than others.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Oh that's all I'm saying. Hey man, he is the
brother negotiating like right now. And this might this might
hit wrong for some of y'all cut y'all soft, but
for us that grew up hard, this one's gonna hit
direct down the lane. Brandon Graham sounds like the brother
who's trying to help get them out of getting a whooping.
That's that's a whooping speech right now.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
And and and he's and he's willing to settle on
just a belt without the buckle other than the paddle
ah ah, like like I tried everything, what's the best
I can do?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
And I'm gonna get him a whoop it too. But
at least you're going whoop me too, y'all.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
But at least you're not getting the buckle end of it,
are you not?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Why are you not handling this better? Don't you see
what's gonna happen. Mommy's standing right there. You don't see
that belt.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
It's like it's like the movie Swingers where they had
that altercation of the guy pulled out a gun and
he's like, hey, haven't you seen boys in the hood?
No one of us is gonna get shot.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Brandon don't want no parts of it. If there's a
conclusion that there's a conclusion to be taken away from this,
Brandon Graham does not want to smoke from what it
is that's coming from what's taking place with Jay. Hears
of a j Brown peace.
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Lap.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning, lo Bar,
good morning Loreen.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
A good job without the classic Christmas music that time.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I like that.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
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Hey guys.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
A case of uh, where are they now? Hey Brady?
In a case of uh, where are they now? In
case you missed this? Robert Griffin, the third r G
three announce on social media.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
He's retiring, damn, more like.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Coming out of retirement.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
He's uh.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
He's been tabbed to be on the coverage for the
Netflix Christmas Day doubleheader, joining Mantiiteo, Mina Chimes, Drew Brees.
He's actually going to be leading the broadcast, uh, both
the pre post and and uh as well as the
on air downtime between the games.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Is he going to be able to behave himself? Because
I know he liked to uh make some not so
suitable comments and post pictures of him eating items in
a very provocative way like it's Christmas. RG three, just
so you know, like there might be some kids watching
watching these games as well too, So just curious that
that's gonna happen. You know, I'm not sure. I'm not
(37:27):
sure what we're looking at with with RG three there.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
Speaking of watching games on these streaming devices, did anybody
did you guys check out the Simpsons broadcast last night?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I did hear you say what?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
The Simpsons broadcast? I all know, yeah, I don't. It
was pretty bad. I tuned in for a second, but
it's pretty unwatchable.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I saw the preview of it, and I was not
interested at all.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I really liked what they did last year with the
toy story.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
That was good.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I mean, look, the Simpsons riot at Universal, that whole
like Simpson's Land where they've got all the amusement park
games already? Are you told you guys? My son went
over there last Friday and just gave him that wark.
I mean walked out of there with every stuffed animal
you could imagine, because he just dominates. But there was
no point during last night that I thought, you know, son,
(38:19):
let's see what Barton Homer think or what they're doing
when it comes to this broadcast of this game. The
game was already bad enough. I didn't need to make
it worse.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
Oh you got to see Lisa Simpson and Ralph Wighams
score some touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Homer throw TD. I mean, don't we have enough alternate broadcast?
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Nice?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Apparently not if people really want to learn and get educated,
just do what I have to do. You know, five
days out of the week watch everything in Spanish?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Easy? Oh wow?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
What else we got?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Lee?
Speaker 6 (38:49):
Well, guys, big decision made during the bye week for
the Ravens. Dereck Henry decided to cut off his dreads.
Now has corn rows before they go and face the
Giants this week.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
What are the not dreads? But what well?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
You cut off the dreads now he has corn rows?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Is that? Is that? What's in the report?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
How does that spell h corn rose r O w s.
How do you think it was spelled LaVar?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I was just wondering how out was spelled in the
report that he was reading or did he make it up?
You know, you know, Lee probably is aware of the
fact that corn rolls are a thing.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
I know it's spelled uh, it is spelled rose in
the in the report.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I was wondering.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
I was like, corn rolls, right, okay.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
All right? My bad from meeting from meeting all them
corn rolls. I guess it is spelt that way.
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that was it and it feels like a wasted year
for Joe Burrow and the Bengals. We'll ask Pete Prisco
over here thoughts on that as well. Two plus his
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Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So I was trying to figure out who was the
more can't get right team this season between the Cowboys
and the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well they pulled it off right, Yeah, and twenty seven
put a face to it.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You know what. Congratulations of the Dallas Cowboys. You one
that can't get right bowl last night? I won and
at football, job well done.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Michael wasn't happy about that either, bad way. He was
not happy about that can't get right lost by.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Job well done. Blocked the punt in a critical moment
about to win the game, only the muffet pulling a
leon let from years and years and years ago. And
then Cincinnati gets the ball back and Jamar Chase scores
and that'll do it. Folks have fun, drive home safely.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
But talk about a roller coaster rout of emotions. Shuah
lee on both sides, right, I mean your Cincinnati you're like,
oh whoa, especially they were confused, especially this year because
Cincinnati has had so many losses late.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
To where you're like, oh, that's a hard breaker. No,
that one's worse than the last. No, like Cincinnati's been
in spots this year to where you go, Man, if
this team could ever just close out a game, they
would be a problem in the postseason. And so that's
a moment in which always seemingly would have gone against
Cincinnati this year, and instead it goes against Dallas at home.
(03:20):
Before this stuff usually happens to Dallas, Zach Taylor looked
like he'd seen a ghost.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, he was like, I don't think he really wanted
to he knew what it was. I don't think he
wanted to accept that. That's what it was like.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It was a ghost of the winning lottery. Ticulate, Wait
what wait, Hold on a second.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Wait you said, you said, I what wait?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You said, I wan we got we got the benefit
of the doubt there.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I said, what wait, wait, say that one more time?
He had the dumb found it look, and Micah Micah
had the say what next? You said? Who that? Yeah,
he just did. He said wait, wait, no, say it
isn't true. No, say it isn't so that that was.
That was Mike's face on.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeahline, you want to hear a little Micah post, Oh yeah,
let's do it. Speaking of speaking of sticks, here was
Michael Parson's following the game.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I wasn't even really grasping what was going on. Nick
made a great play, and uh, then you know, I
asked to rect you know what happened to me that
we touched the ball. There was definitely a huge momentum shift.
I mean, we just got a huge stop. We're going
to two minute drill. It's just real hard to you,
(04:30):
you think, to believe you could pull that game out
from that situation.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
That hurts. It seemed like we're paying a dude.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
That's not fair, you know, I don't I don't know
if it's bad luck karma, you know, tell me we
hold Joe Burrow the twenty points and two minutes off.
With our offense, the way he was moving the ball today,
I think we could.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Win the game.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So that sounds like.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
That wasn't too bad. He had himself together there good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I mean he got a little emotional talking about an injury,
you know, to his teammate, uh elsewhere. But he walked
off the field.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
He turned his ankle again last night.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, he walked off the field, just incredulous with and
I was thinking about it and seeing and you guys
have talked about this, you and Brady like Michael Parson
is one of the best players at his position in
the league. He's having a down year because of the
injuries and all that, but I mean he's still a
great player that's got to be a really frustrating thing
to be a great player who can have such an
(05:34):
impact on a game, but just not enough for you
to like win games, and yet you still go out
and play at a high level and only to see
random occurrences like that happen and it goes the other
way and you guys lose again at home like that
and embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
At least he's recognized as one of the greats in
the game before you got to the point of, you know,
your team being discussed in the way that they're being discussed.
I mean, that's how I would look at it. I mean,
he he has he has tremendous value, you know, so
when you look at where he's at, I don't think
(06:11):
anyone would question if they're winning and losing based off
of a handful of players. Ceedee Lamb is on that list.
He was upset. Michael Parsons is on that list. He
was upset. So you actually want guys like that if
they're on your team, you want them to be upset,
you know you do. And and that's you know, to me,
(06:34):
I think that when when when you see a leader
of a team not be upset and not bothered, that's
when you need to start worrying, because that's when you
know it's their self preservation that is kicking in Jonas
and the idea that you know, your big guns look
(06:55):
at look at what's going on from a different lens
of you know, just just wanting to overachieve and wanting
to win. That's I think that that's when now you
got to start looking at your coaching staff. And that's
when you say, all right, does this guy still have
control of the locker room? And and that's you know,
(07:18):
if I'm Mike McCarthy, the one thing that I would
be happy about if I were in this scenario is
that my stars are still getting frustrated and upset. Now,
if that frustration and that being upset turns into them saying,
you know what, like what's going on in Philadelphia, but
(07:38):
towards a coach, then you got to assume that that's
not that's not going to be a good thing. But otherwise,
I mean, you gotta be happy that your your big
guns are frustrated and upset that they didn't win the game.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
It's got to be frustrating though if your Cincinnati because
you see like Burrows having the best year of his career,
and it's kind of a waste because they're not going
to go to the postseason and they've been battling and
come up short in so many games this year that
they're gonna be on the outside looking in. And yet
you look at that team and you look at that
(08:13):
the threat of Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, Like Jamar
Chase is unbelievable, Like just to see and what he's
going to garner on the open market and what he's
gonna or what he's gonna get from Cincinnati, because I
don't think he'll hit the open market.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I'm about to say, you think they're gonna allow him
all to market, I would be shocked.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So they'll they'll figure out a way to get that done.
But you look at that team and you go, man,
there's a couple of those games you go back on,
Like right now they're three games out of the final
playoff spot.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
A couple of.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Those games go the other way. Games they should have
won and they.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Didn't exactly you know they didn't. And but one one
person you can't blame it on is Jamar Chase. Another
person you can't blame it on is Joe Burrow. I mean,
when you look at the way that they've played during
the course of the season, you'd have to assume that
those guys have given you performances that would would lend
(09:07):
to winning the game and give it up to Hendrickson.
I mean, they could have still made a run to
go get the touchdown that they needed. You know, uh
Rush was getting rushed and he did not have the
opportunity to get his feet set to to make good
(09:28):
solid decisions throwing the ball. I mean, he was under duress,
and the receivers can get upset and they could be
you know, bothered by the fact that you know, Rush
was delivering the ball the wrong way in that moment,
but you know that offensive line didn't hold up for
him and give him the fair opportunity to do it.
(09:49):
So when you look at how when you look at
how they came through for them. Speaking of the Cincinnati
Bengals defense in the crunch time, in the clutch for them,
you know, and obviously holding Dallas to twenty points, you know,
you hold a team to twenty points, you had a
good outing and and so but again, like like Mike
(10:13):
I said, I mean they held the Bengals to twenty points,
that was a good outing and to have it, you know,
close out the way that it did against them, you
know that that one's a that's got to be a
hard one to you know.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Swallow Trey Hendrickson, who's leading the NFL in sacks. That
was a guy who you know, he was another one
of those trying to get a deal done before the season.
They don't want to do it, Yeah, they didn't. They
didn't want to pay him. They didn't get a long
term deal for t Higgins done, they didn't get a
long term deal for Jamar Chase done. So yeah, they've
got question marks as well too going into next year.
(10:50):
But I look at her and go, damn, I just
I can't help but think, if you're a Bengals fan,
how frustrating this year must have been. Because who the
hell wants to see Joe Burrow in the postseason. He's
one of two guys that's beaten Patrick Mahomes in a
playoff game. The other was Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Like you know, and you know what's interesting, uh just
hearing hearing hearing Colin Cowherd like hearing his his his
one kind of his take on you know, Josh Allen
versus you know Patrick Mahomes and if you put up
five touchdowns, you know Patrick Mahomes doesn't lose. But what's
(11:30):
going on with with you know, with with the quarterback
and in Buffalo, it's just kind of like, why would
you reign on Josh Allen for that when it's it's
all three phases of the game that play a part
in winning a game. They say, you win two phases
of a game and you're going to most likely win
(11:51):
the game. Joe Burrow, much like Josh Allen, has played
MVP level football. But if your defense doesn't play MVP defense,
or your special teams as Aaron Rodgers, as the New
York Jets, if your special teams don't deliver. Ask the
(12:12):
Ravens and one of their letdown games, right, If the
special teams doesn't come through for you and you lose
that phase of the game, then you will lose the game.
Or I don't give it down who your quarterback is?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Okay, So I know that they're going to say all
the right things publicly and listen, when does a team
loses a team? All of that crap that we hear
all the time, but you've been on teams where you've
done your part and somebody around you hasn't. You're not
giving them the side eye, or there's not a conversation
behind closed doors. It's not in front of the media
when it comes to hey man, like I'm out here
(12:45):
doing my part, where the hell are you? Like nobody
has those discussions or nobody's giving them a dirty look,
like what's happening here? How do you not make that
play at that point, especially when I'm having the best
season of my career.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I mean, if it's if it is a if it's
if it's a kicker, you're going to feel a certain
type of way about them. And I mean it's just
kind of it is what it is. It is what
it is. You look at the kicker or you know,
(13:18):
you know what's sad about you know what's sad about
a Rurie. You know he's a penn stater man, And
I can't believe that we would have a penn stater
or can't get right at one of the biggest moments
in the game. But that that's here north there. I
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just think that when you when you have somebody like
a kicker or a punter or a long snapper mess
up the game, like mess up their part of the game.
I think it kind of. I think the pain of
that disappointment it's so hard and cuts so deep, and
(14:00):
and that person in particular, that you really don't even
need to do anything. You really don't need to look
at him crazy because they already know that they looked crazy.
You really don't have to scream at him because they
already know that they did something crazy. Man, what's wrong
with you? Man? And I think that at the end,
(14:22):
when it comes down to it, when it comes down
to it, I never was one to get into the kickers'
faces or anything like that do anything crazy. But in
my mind, I would be sitting there like, God, dang bro,
like all you do is kick like that punter. That
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punter allowed that ball to get blocked at the biggest
moment of the day. Now, granted they released the dude,
let the dude run free, but you got one job
to do, and that's get that ball off and don't
let it get Like the worst case scenario in that
moment for Dallas would have been to allow or for
for Cincinnati would have been for them to allow Dallas
(15:08):
to come free and block a part. And that's what
they did. So to me, I you know, Jonas those moments,
there are some dudes that be like, man, I'm gonna
f you up, you little mother, this, that and the other.
There are some that can handle it, but for others,
it's just kind of like, you know that the pain
(15:30):
cuts so deep because that's all they do. It's like
you're waiting your turn, and your turn comes when you
score touchdown or you get into scoring position. And it's
interesting because it's a very very lonely job. It's a
very very lonely job. That moment where that ball is
(15:52):
snapped and you got to step up to it and
you got to kick it. All eyes are on you
for that. It's not you trying to complete a path.
It's not you running the ball down the field, catching
the ball for a touchdown. All eyes are on you
to see if you can use your foot to get
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this ball through these big ass uprights and give the
team points that they need. Like that's you know, that's
a lot of pressure. Yeah, well it's a lot of loss,
but that's the only pressure you have on you, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, that's true. A lot of losses for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I know that it is.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you. So we are gonna
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as we take you all the way up again until
nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. But apparently we
have some reasoning as to why one team in the
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NFL they might have a bigger problem than just this
upcoming week or the eight week after that or potential
playoff run. We got issues we'll discuss right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I can't wait for the twenty fifth to be Oh
do we still play Christmas music after Christmas until after
New Year?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I don't think so. Please hurry nine pm Christmas Day
is when I get to stop.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Please hurry.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
This is is that nine pm Pacific or oh my gosh,
I'm assuming that's nine pm Pacific, so it's midnight Eastern.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Way, can I borrow your coffin? Please? Well, here's okay,
sleep until the nine o'clock of Christmas.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
The problem is is that it's all the news school
Christmas stuff like this. You just got to go with
the classics. If you throw in the classics, like bing
Crosby or whatever that guy's name is, you're fine. Everything's
going to be fine.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Because you're like forced to tolerate it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, it's you right here, man.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I'm jumping. If I was on a bridge right now,
I would probably jump. Damn. Yeah, I probably jump. Like
I probably look down and I'm definitely afraid of heights,
and I would look down, and I'd be listening to
this song. And if somebody was playing this song and
I couldn't escape the song, I would most likely jump. Well, hey, listen,
(18:28):
just let you know how how serious, like like how
Micah felt yesterday, if Micah had a bridge that he
could jump off of, yes, he would have jumped. Well,
he would have jumped.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I know this here on two pros and a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
You know, brouh.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
We are going to bridge our way all the way
to another edition of in case you missed it in
about twenty minutes from now okay, and we are going
to find out where are they now somebody that's been
discussed on this show several times before. We are going
to get an update on their career coming up here.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
We talked about Berto here on FSR.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
We know where he is. By the way, who If
anybody out there ever feels like their algorithm is a
little screwy, just check out Burtos. He fires off stuff
every day to me and I'm like, I don't even
know what they're saying, but damn, that's a bit much,
all right, So let's get into this. There was some
(19:23):
commentary from all this from AJ Brown, who postgame on Sunday,
despite the win for Philly over Carolina in a game
they struggled in offensively, basically said, you know, the passing
game is an issue. He was very frustrated. Davante Smith
pointed out it's hard to get into a rhythm when
(19:43):
you're only throwing the ball twenty times a game, so
on and so forth, and so there's been some wondering
in the past about Hey, is there any sort of
issue going on there? AJ Brown doesn't seem happy yet.
They re upped his deal in the off season, Craig
Carton of FS one, and he pointed out in a
report that was shot down by Adam Schefter, Craig Carton
(20:04):
pointed out that, hey, listen, I'm hearing their stuff inside
the locker room. That would splinter and damage any man's relationship,
which was kind of cryptic, and you know, Schefter and
Company kind of, you know, dismissed that, and Corner sort
of gave it the side. And then all of a sudden,
Brandon Graham, who is out for the year with the injury,
respected veteran there been there for over a decade in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Was I thought it was artificial intelligence? Man, I really did.
I could believe that he said this.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, so Brandon Graham was talking on WIP and Philly
Keep might be still an active member of the roster.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Keep in mind, I frustrated Q beyond belief yesterday when
I told him that there was no Maybe it wasn't
what we thought it was in terms of beef towards
you know, Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown and that being
a thing for real. Q, You're not on the show today,
but I apologize you were more than correct on this one.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Gram felt like, hey, screw it, why don't we just
have an honest conversation here, and had this to say.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I don't know the whole story, but I know that
one is trying. And I mean, I Levin could be
a little better with how he respond to things, and
they was friends before this. It's like, man, but things
have changed. And I understand that because life happens. But
we got to it's the business side that we have
to make sure that we don't let the personal get
(21:28):
in the way of the business. And that's what we
got to do better as right now, because we know
it's an issue. Everybody's seen with some things. But we
need to be able to talk talk things out as men.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
But we need to let personal stuff go and and
let's get right for this game, because man, it's like
a lot of stuff. Most of the time, it's just
a conversation that just need to be had. But the
person with the problem gotta want to talk to the
person other than others.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Oh that's all.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I'm saying, all right, So now just in fairness, Okay,
in fairness, is.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
This man teaching kindergarten class? Man, them dudes must be
up there acting real childish, man, it must it must
be real childish, because that's gotta be the tone you
take when you talking to kids. Man. So I thought
it was artificial intelligence. Oh God, I promise I did.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I was shocked that because like you'll hear k and
we can get into the whole.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You know, this stirred up that Donovan McNabb, Torello and stuff.
You know that's only twenty years old. But who cares.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
But well, like they took the opportunity to get themselves. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
But like I look at it and I go, if
this was somebody who was playing there eight ten years
ago or somebody who was you know, I can understand
being like, okay, I mean, they're not in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
What do they know.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's Brandon Graham. He's like one of the most respective
members in the history of the organization. He won a
Super Bowl there for Christ, Like this is he's there.
He's a present, current member of the roster. But in fairness,
he did speak with Tim McManus a ESPN dot Com
after these comments came out yesterday that I think everybody
(23:14):
was shocked by and said quote, I made a mistake,
and I assumed that it was something that it wasn't.
I just want to win so bad that I don't
just want to use the media when we need to
talk about something and we can fix the problems ourselves.
I didn't add it in a good light, So that's
my bad. I just assumed, and it made me out
to look even worse because I had it all wrong,
and now people are going to run with that part.
(23:36):
I really just want to win, man, and I want
brothers to be able to just hash it out. So
you didn't really like say, hey, listen, I got it
completely wrong.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
No, that's from Brandon Grant. Yes, can I just say this?
Can I just say this? When I was again, when
I was listening to it, I was like, this isn't real.
This isn't real. And you know, in the day and
age that we live in, there's so much stuff that
could be AI generated that when I was listening to it,
I was tripping out. Bro. I was like, wait, hold on, like,
(24:10):
this is not this is not branding, this is not him,
This isn't him, It's not now it turns out that
it was like, first off, I could have told I
could have told the young og because I'm an old
og now I could have told the young og. Hey
man like, lead that one alone, you know, leave even
(24:36):
acknowledging that a beef exists or there's a problem that
exists and all that stuff. Lead that alone, because there's
no possible way you can you can retread it and
make it sound any better. There's no possible way in
beefs that if you get involved in it and you
say something about it, that it can be you know,
(24:59):
deciphered or or or you know, kind of absorbed as
this is a good thing, like something good could come
out of this, Like it doesn't happen that way. And
and so when I was listening to it, it just sounded
like somebody who it must have got really like bro,
it must have got really, really really heated. It must
(25:20):
have got so heated that you felt like he felt
like in the moment he couldn't even like where they're
at right now, there's so much known information internally, even
by by beat writers, that he couldn't. He had to
he had to say something, and.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
He almost assumed because you heard him in the in
the initial clips say, I mean, you know it's already
out there everybody. Well, no, we didn't know that, Like,
we didn't know that a player was going to come
out to confirm it.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
That's what I'm saying. I think I think it must
be confirmed in local local beat writer form.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I mean, it's got to be or beat reporter form.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It must. And you know Philly is known for They're
known for it. You know there's gonna be some B
four it's gonna play out the way that this is
playing out a little bit. I mean, it's gone way
further than this, and in terms of coverage of drama
that plays out with players in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
And the other layer to it is it's not like
he's saying, yeah, both these guys just need to get
it together, Like he specifically said, one better. Jalen Hurts
is trying and AJ Brown needs to do better. Boy,
that's a good approach.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
To take with the wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
He's already been pissed off about his role and how
much you know input he has in the offense that
they won the.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Game, of course, and they have a player that is
in the conversation for MVP. Yeah, like something. Listen. Like
I said yesterday on the show, I understand receivers. There's
never been a receiver that's ever caught enough balls. They
never got enough targets. There's never enough for a receiver.
(26:59):
But when you turn it into drama, this team is
on like what a twelve game winning streak something like
that right now.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
You're you're arguably the best team in the NFC outside
of maybe Detroit, maybe Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You've got a shot at the one seed.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Come on, man, I don't I don't understand. I don't
understand what why this should become like a thing where
you have a formula that's working, like it's working. Whatever
it is y'all are doing, it's working. Why would you
It's it's almost like to me when I when I
(27:40):
listen to what's going on, it's almost like AJ Brown
thinks he's Ralph Treasment of new Addition, you know, or
he's Otis from from the Temptations, Right, it's got to
be the Temptations and or are not Otis But David Ruffin, Right,
it's like it's it's the Temptations and David Ruffin, I think, right,
(28:01):
it's like it's new addition, and Ralph Tresvan right, but
in this moment, this is a Ralph Tresvent moment because
Aj Brown is acting like a man with sensitivity. He's
too sensitive right now. As my man Fred Smooth would say,
sensitive thugs need hugs. Somebody needs to give AJ Brown
(28:22):
a hug and tell him everything's gonna be okay, My
g We're winning. Saquon is getting all the girls. I
don't know if he's married or not. I know Saquon is.
I think he's married. I don't know. It doesn't matter.
Everybody wants a piece of Saquon right now. Maybe they're
not flocking to you bird Gang intended, maybe they're not
(28:45):
coming your way as as much as you like. But
the bottom line is rising tides raise all ships. And
right now you're trying to sink it because they say
loose lips sink And I'm just saying, whatever it is
you got going on, Aj, I respect your game. I
(29:06):
don't know him, I don't know who you are, but
I'm just saying, like, get it, get it where you
get it, get it where you get it. Encourage them
because doing it this way, I never saw a receiver
quarterback situation play out where it made it better because
(29:26):
the receiver had direct beef or outside in the media
beef with that that quarterback. I've never seen it play out.
Well ever, I was thinking this too. And you've done
these players shows where it's you know, the LeVar Arrington Show,
or it's the so and so Show, and you'll go
to a live remote shot at me.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well no, I'm saying no, no. But my point is
is that when you hear, for the most part, when
you hear a player during the season on an active
roster have his own show on a radio station or
do his thing, it's because it's a paid hit, like
Tom Brady made a bunch of money going on in
New England. I think it was wee I for years.
(30:08):
I just I also wondered this. They were at a
public setting, maybe at a couple of cocktails. Okay, Like
I'm just I'm just saying they're at a public setting.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
He's at a couple.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
He's out for the year. You know, Monday night football's
coming up. It's a bad game. Everybody needs to get
on the liverloop a little bit just to be able
to tolerate some mediocre football teams and maybe Brandon Graham
was slamming, you know, a couple of Philly cheese steaks
and he washed it down with like an IPA or two.
That's that. That was my other thought on this, because
I cannot believe that he thought this was the ro you.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Thought he was on site, I don't know. I mean,
if he was on site, maybe a couple of fans,
because you know Eagles fans that the most beloved players,
and a guy like Graham their beloved because they interact
and they connect integrate with the fan base really really well.
And I know that fan base very well because it's
a Penn State fan base as well. Also they're passionate people,
(31:08):
and you can find yourself, you can find yourself in
the moment like yeah, you're right, yup, you know what,
You're right, Hey, you're right, Yeah, you know what. And
then they put the phone, put the camera or the
microphone in front of him, and he was still in
your right he was still in that your right mode.
I'm just telling you. It sounded like he was already
(31:31):
like he was giving an account of something bad that
happened just then, just now. And I know that's not
what it was, but the way he was talking. It
was like, guys, like, guys, you know we're gonna get
We're gonna get in trouble. You do know that this
is something that's gonna get us all in trouble. We're
(31:54):
all gonna get in trouble. Can you can you please? Guys?
Can y'all please stop? You remember that? Look, you got brothers, right,
if you're if you're an only child, or if you
ain't never had a close like a close group of friends,
you might not be able to relate to this. But
I'm telling you that's what Brandon Graham sound like, Like, Bro,
(32:17):
can you please handle this better? Because if you're gonna
make it bad for all of us?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah, because if one brother's being an a hole and
the parents are frustrated everybody's getting it, They're not gonna
they're gonna just punish one of them. They're gonna say, oh, well,
you could have done something to stop it too. It's like, Mom,
I'm eight.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
That's what it sounded. That's what play again, play play
branded again. It's sound like we all gonna get in
trouble if you don't do better.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Man, brand.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
I don't know the whole story, but I know that
one is trying, and I mean, I live in could be.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
A little better. Mama told him not to.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
And they was friends before this, but things have changed.
And I understand that because life happens. But we gotta
it's the business side that we have to make sure
that we don't let.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
The personal trouble Senaclous still coming right.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
You gotta do better right now because we know it's
an issue everybody seeing some things.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
But we need to listen, be able to talk talk.
They need to be able to talk these things out.
Y'all don't need to get We need to let personal
stuff go.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
And we're gonna let's get right for this game, because man,
it's like a lot of stuff. Most of the time,
it's just a conversation that just need to be had.
But the person with the problem gotta want to talk
to the person other than others.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Oh that's all I'm saying. Hey man, he is the
brother negotiating like right now. And this might this might
hit wrong for some of y'all cut y'all soft, but
for us that grew up hard, this one's gonna hit
direct down the lane. Brandon Graham sounds like the brother
who's trying to help get them out of getting a whooping.
That's that's a whooping speech right now.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
And and and he's and he's willing to settle on
just a belt without the buckle other than the paddle
ah ah, like like I tried everything, what's the best
I can do?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
And I'm gonna get him a whoop it too. But
at least you're going whoop me too, y'all.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
But at least you're not getting the buckle end of it,
are you not?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Why are you not handling this better? Don't you see
what's gonna happen. Mommy's standing right there. You don't see
that belt.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
It's like it's like the movie Swingers where they had
that altercation of the guy pulled out a gun and
he's like, hey, haven't you seen boys in the hood?
No one of us is gonna get shot.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Brandon don't want no parts of it. If there's a
conclusion that there's a conclusion to be taken away from this,
Brandon Graham does not want to smoke from what it
is that's coming from what's taking place with Jay. Hears
of a j Brown peace.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
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Speaker 2 (35:11):
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Speaker 2 (35:55):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. The guys are here to bring you.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
In case you missed.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
It, And for that we turn it over to our
executive producer, Lee.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Lap.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning, lo Bar,
good morning Loreen.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
A good job without the classic Christmas music that time.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I like that.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
Hey Lee, Hey, Hey Loreen, Hey Brady, Hey Lee, Hey,
Hey guys.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
A case of uh, where are they now? Hey Brady?
In a case of uh, where are they now? In
case you missed this? Robert Griffin, the third r G
three announce on social media.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
He's retiring, damn, more like.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Coming out of retirement.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
He's uh.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
He's been tabbed to be on the coverage for the
Netflix Christmas Day doubleheader, joining Mantiiteo, Mina Chimes, Drew Brees.
He's actually going to be leading the broadcast, uh, both
the pre post and and uh as well as the
on air downtime between the games.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Is he going to be able to behave himself? Because
I know he liked to uh make some not so
suitable comments and post pictures of him eating items in
a very provocative way like it's Christmas. RG three, just
so you know, like there might be some kids watching
watching these games as well too, So just curious that
that's gonna happen. You know, I'm not sure. I'm not
(37:27):
sure what we're looking at with with RG three there.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
Speaking of watching games on these streaming devices, did anybody
did you guys check out the Simpsons broadcast last night?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I did hear you say what?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
The Simpsons broadcast? I all know, yeah, I don't. It
was pretty bad. I tuned in for a second, but
it's pretty unwatchable.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I saw the preview of it, and I was not
interested at all.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I really liked what they did last year with the
toy story.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
That was good.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I mean, look, the Simpsons riot at Universal, that whole
like Simpson's Land where they've got all the amusement park
games already? Are you told you guys? My son went
over there last Friday and just gave him that wark.
I mean walked out of there with every stuffed animal
you could imagine, because he just dominates. But there was
no point during last night that I thought, you know, son,
(38:19):
let's see what Barton Homer think or what they're doing
when it comes to this broadcast of this game. The
game was already bad enough. I didn't need to make
it worse.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
Oh you got to see Lisa Simpson and Ralph Wighams
score some touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Homer throw TD. I mean, don't we have enough alternate broadcast?
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Nice?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Apparently not if people really want to learn and get educated,
just do what I have to do. You know, five
days out of the week watch everything in Spanish?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Easy? Oh wow?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
What else we got?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Lee?
Speaker 6 (38:49):
Well, guys, big decision made during the bye week for
the Ravens. Dereck Henry decided to cut off his dreads.
Now has corn rows before they go and face the
Giants this week.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
What are the not dreads? But what well?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
You cut off the dreads now he has corn rows?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Is that? Is that? What's in the report?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
How does that spell h corn rose r O w s.
How do you think it was spelled LaVar?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I was just wondering how out was spelled in the
report that he was reading or did he make it up?
You know, you know, Lee probably is aware of the
fact that corn rolls are a thing.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
I know it's spelled uh, it is spelled rose in
the in the report.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I was wondering.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
I was like, corn rolls, right, okay.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
All right? My bad from meeting from meeting all them
corn rolls. I guess it is spelt that way.
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