October 30, 2025 • 42 mins
Jonas Knox, LaVar Arrington, and Brady Quinn react to the Blue Jays taking Game 5 of the World Series, putting them in the driver's seat against the Dodgers. The guys dive into the Lions decision to give Aiden Hutchinson a massive extension. Plus, was Carson Wentz pressured to play through his injury?!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
up on this Thursday edition. Of course, we're gonna have
the usuals. Albert Breer stops by, We've got the leftovers,
we're handing out an award, and we've got in case
you missed it, We're also going to talk about Game
five of the World Series that went a little bit
different than a lot of people thought it was going to.
But there's kind of a false narrative about this matchup
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between the Blue Jays and the Dodgers. We'll discuss also
going to discuss the turnaround in Detroit that resulted in
a payday for Aiden Hutchinson. We're gonna have a conversation
about somebody who clearly has their priorities in line when
it comes to coaching hires in the world of college football.
A surprise for Thursday Night Football, and at least we
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Speaker 3 (02:22):
That's back. Yeah, all right, yes there he is.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
All right.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Hey, are we paniccking about the Dodgers yet?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's set in panic brothers are out. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
They look like that eighteen inning game kind of stole
every ounce of energy they had left in them. Oh no,
And I think Petros pointed it out on social media.
They looked old, they look afraid, and Baltimore is just
slugging away and Baltimore U or excuse me, Toronto.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I was about to say, Wow, Toronto's just slugging away
bird and that's an oriole, that's true.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And uh. And they're headed back to Canada for Game
six and seven coming up Friday Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Dang.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh yeah. Not not what everybody thought, but not the
worst thing in the world. I want seven games. I
said it from the get go. I want to see
seven games. That company man right there, let's let's get
this rocking. Yeah, Kenda sub jays kind of blue Jays maintain.
See now, it's like you had that two game giveaway,
you know, where you're getting your your rest or you're
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getting yourself back together during that two game stretch. Can
the Blue Jays handle the next two games? Or did
they did they shoot their load to get back to Toronto?
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Did they give did they give their all to get
back to Toronto?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You know, and they got nothing left?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And maybe or maybe even the emotional you know, the
emotional aspect of going into to the Los Angeles and
winning at Dodger Stadium. You know, there could be some
hangover from that.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Maybe I'm viewing this differently, but it's not so much
to me like the whatever you just said as far
as like the the I'm not eve gonna repeat.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
What you must said. But me, I mean, what are
you talking about? If you shoot you you know, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I don't feel like they're the exertion that baseball players
put out unless.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You're pitching, Uh maybe catching, that's kind of the extent.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Like it's it's not you're not running a marathon every
time you're playing nine endings or even if you go
to eighteen. This to me is more about this this
thought that when when we first saw the World Series announced,
we thought the Dodgers were gonna win, hey in four
and five, Like that was some of the conversation, Like
people made this series made out to be a David
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versus Eliath.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Meanwhile, we kind of forget that.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Okay, they played in the regular season, the Dodgers weren't
like that much better, and in fact, the Blue Jays
obviously won a game more, which is why Toronto has
home field. Like these teams are much more evenly matched,
and might I say, like outside of the star power
that the Dodgers have, the team, the entire Toronto Blue
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Jays team has kind of showed up more so in
a better spot than the Dodgers have.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Like I kind of sit there and just watch.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
This series and say, like, this is basically a team
that was all about hype because they've got arguably the
greatest talent we've ever seen in baseball and some other,
don't get me wrong, really good players. But then that
kind of just that's kind of it. It feels like
you've got a team versus a bunch of like star power,
star player individuals, and we're kind of seeing how that's
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playing out right now.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I don't know if I don't know about what he's
talking about. All I'm saying is, since when the emotions
run high, you were just.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
So good to be back by the way at LSU Florida,
then Penn State, they're head coaching search.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
That's what I'm getting, at least from the people out there.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
What's interesting, who say good?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
What LSU Florida, fron State, the order of appeal, That's
how the.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Search from all these people are kind of talking about it.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Gus.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
The only like Virginia Tech last night was the yeah
that's a four gun conclusion.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Huh yeah, well looks.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
A lot it does outside like last night was the
first game that actually surprised me in the series because
I wasn't surprised Toronto came out and won Game one.
There was a layoff for the Dodgers, you know, the
bats got hot. I wasn't surprised that Yamamoto came back
in Game two and pitched the way he did. He's
been fantastic. Game three win eighteen innings, and I wasn't
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surprised that Toronto responded in Game four. That game last night,
they didn't the Dodgers did not look good and just
didn't make mistakes. There was one pitch that you savaged
through that key Ky Hernandez hit out. Other than that,
he dominated them. And it's not just Look the Dodger
bullpen gets a lot of credit or a lot of criticism,
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and a lot of people look at the bullpen and
go that's been an issue, and it has been an
issue clearly, But Mookie Betts has been awful. He said
it after the game last night. They've got a lot
of guys who just aren't hitting right now. And oh Tani,
you know, he didn't deliver last night in a lot
of spots and a lot of opportunities. So I just
I looked at last night's game and I go, that
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was the one that kind of surprised me because I
didn't expect for them to have the quote unquote hangover
effect another game after whatever happened a couple of nights ago,
and that's exactly what it felt like.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I might be traumatized. Maybe that's why I'm siding on
the side of the whole emotional deal. Let me ask
you guys this Toronto, if they were to win the
World Series, what type of impact does that have on
the MLB? Is it a positive impact? Is it a
negative impact? Is it indifferent? Is it?
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Like?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I think it's a thought.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Well, first off, like I would say this, like again,
the David and Goliath thought probably comes from payroll, Like
we tend to look at the teams to spend the
most money and say those are the teams that are
going to win.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
A World Series.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
So yeah, it kind of stands in the way of
that argument or that discussion point well.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And like the other part of that David and Goliath
payroll aspect is there's like, oh man, you know the
it's like the Blue Jays are just piecing this whole
thing together with some gum and some duct tape. Dude,
Vlad Grerow just got five hundred million dollars. It's not
like they're not shelling out a little bit of cash.
They've made deals at the deadline. They've got Bobashett who's
looking to get paid in the offseason, and whether or
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not they're going to want to keep him around or
not that remains to be seen. But yeah, it's not
It's not like this team is devoid of talent like
they as you pointed, out they won more games in them.
So what it does to baseball, I think Baseball's and
kind of this holding pattern because there's more than likely
and I've talked to anybody in the know, it's about
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ninety nine percent sure there's going to be a work
stoppage after next year that you know, they want the
salary cap, the players don't want that, and so there's
a lot of teams who are kind of like, eh,
not really sure how we should go about this. The
Dodgers kind of got ahead of this whole thing and
have gotten their World Series last year and have been
on this run, and I think there's teams around baseball
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that are just kind of operating with the understanding that
we're not really sure. So it's almost like, can you
get in your World Series in the structure that Major
League Baseball is in currently before everything might change here
in a couple of years, and so I just I
don't know that long term you can look at it
and say what does this do for baseball? Because I
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don't know that anybody has answers after this upcoming year
because there's going to be a stoppage. So that's another
part of the storyline that isn't.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
So saying get locked out, which which would make sense.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I feel like this deal has been much better for
the players than the owners. The problem is, you know,
how much leverage do the owners have in those negotiations
to put in a salary cap.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I mean, this is and.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I understand there's a lot who feel like the spending
is out of control. I mean, when you see some
of these baseball numbers, it just everything else pales in comparison.
I mean even some of the NBA money, which is ridiculous.
And they've got a soft cap. But I do feel like,
you know, there there should be some sort of system
put in place, and if they do put in a
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hard cap, it would be really interesting to see, like
if there's not more stories I want to say necessarily Toronto,
but more organizations that could be competitive with spending less,
which is obviously not what the players want. You know,
they don't want to have a cap put on what
they're potentially able to make and allow some of these
big budgeted teams to not go out there and just
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buy them up.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
But I do think during the.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Course of the regular season, I do think if you're
talking about like playoffs and figure out who's gonna win
it all. It does play into other teams having to
be a little more nimble and having to be able to,
you know, do more with less.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
And that's what they call a moneyball.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Call whatever you want, because we've seen those success stories,
but that's ultimately what it gets to, and maybe it
leads to more parody within the league.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I would think at least.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I mean, a team hasn't won back to back World
Series in twenty five years. It's not as if the
Dodgers are just running rough shot and winning every single
World Series like that. They've run into issues like there's
if you were to ask a Dodger fan, they would say, yeah,
we'd expect they would have won more by now. So
I just I know that people like to paint them
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out to be well, it's the Yankees from back in
the day, but it's not because the Yankees actually were
winning a bunch of World Series and the Dodgers have
found themselves in difficult spots in the postseason, have come
up short several times over the past several years.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I think the hard thing is and by the way,
like it's not like the Blue Jays don't spend like
I think that's one of the misnomer about you know,
this whole situation, like, are they spending as much as
the Dodgers?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
No, like that.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
The total team payrolls like three hundred and fifty million
or something like that this year, and obviously the Mets
have paid a lot. You know, Philly's up there, the
Yankees are up there. And then you start getting down to,
you know, the depths of someone like the Blue Jays
fifty million. Oh, the Pirates on, let me scroll all
the eighty four million.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I'm more of an eighty four minutes guy, but damn
childhood Pirates, but more of an's guy.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, don't worry.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Only they're only spending one hundred and nine so but
don't worry, guys. No one's worse than the Miami Marlins,
who've spent a little over almost sixty eight million.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
That's their total team payroll.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Their team payroll was sixty eight million, a little under that.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Actually, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Good for the Marlins, good for them.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
But but what you kind of notice is, for the
most part, there's a direct correlation. I mean, outside out
of Milwaukee, Milwaukee's only one hundred and twenty one, you know,
and that's a team that obviously made it really far
Cleveland one hundred million. You know, that's a team that
also made it decently, decently far. I was just exceed
the expectations. So that's that's part of the issue. Is
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when you don't have a cap, there tends to be
more of a correlation between what you're spending what you're
getting out of it. With some exceptions, but more often
than not that's the case. So if that change happens
that you're talking about, it would it'd be interesting to
see how baseball would adjust. You know, the trade deadline
would probably look a lot different too. But it'd be fun,
I know that much. Just not as much fun for
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the players.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Because that union is I would say, if you're an
NFL player, you would look at that union and go,
why can't we get that?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
You should be consulting with them. Yeah, it doesn't make
any sense.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You guys know touch out.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Do it.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
But you know, I gave what I had.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
That's what you had.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Again, ahead, I mean the World Series I gave back,
but that's what I had. I don't know all this
other stuff, y'all right now, Like I'm sure some people
find gave us an inning that's it. I was just
looking at y'alls.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Well, I just but it is kind of interesting that
the the MLB players Union is sort of the strongest
and the one that you want to be and meanwhile
in the NFL you got a guy going to strip clubs.
Like it's just it's kind of interesting that that now
you see sort of the end result of all that.
But yeah, probably after next year, maybe some things will change.
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yesterday was a nice day. A nice day for Aiden.
Hutchinson agrees to a four year, one hundred and eighty
million dollar extension good for one hundred and forty one
million guaranteed with the Lions only. Micah Parsons has a
Charger annual salary among non quarterbacks by a million and
a half a year. Big win for us.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Talk at that bar.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Hell yeah, all right, good for you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Take that Trayvon Walker going number one over him?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Yeah, my ass and all seriousness though, did he's been
through I don't know, do you guys remember his story
and msgging a little bit when he kind of came
to prominence at Michigan his final year, Like, he's been
through a lot of injuries. You know, it's it's not
a surprise he's been able to come back from it
because he did that during his time in college.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But what six sacs so far through seven games.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
You got to feel happy for him, you know, like
he's just he never allows the adversity to impact him.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
And he's been able to be the player that the
Lions were.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Hoping he would be and that you could tell to
just he's the motor, he's got the type of leader
he is. All those things they kind of add up
and this is this is the type of guy through
an organization. You know, you want to pay because he's
going to be a good guy in the locker room,
he's going to be a good leader and even probably
through the ups and downs. So happy for him, happy
for the team too. You know, this is typically spots
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where Detroit's had you know, different draft picks and it
hasn't worked out, and this, obviously, this has worked out
the way they'd hoped.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
It's interesting that the timing of it, the placement of it,
it doesn't come with any pre drama to it getting done. No,
is he going to make it into camp? Is it
is it going to hinder what, you know, what the
relationship is? Is it like it just boom, here's a
contract And and to me, I think that's more the
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bigger story is like how do you find a way
to harmoniously be able to execute major contracts in moments
leading up to and it being executed like this? Like
it should. There should be a guide on doing contracts
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without the drama. Drama free. And I think that that's
the coolest thing about it, because you didn't villainize villainize
Aiden Hutchinson. As you mentioned, he is a pillar in
the community. He's he's established a voice there obviously playing
college ball not too far away from the you know,
the place. Now that he's doing on pro level, it
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just seems like this is the way you go about
doing it, Like it's like, Okay, it's going to be
a conversation. It's going to be he got a big contract.
But what it's not going to be is is this
negotiation of distraction is Aiden Hutchinson and his agent leaking
out information that they may want to seek a trade
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or drama. You know, zero drama, bro, And now you
as a team, you're able to benefit from him continuing
to be the star that he is without people being
upset one way or the other. Did he win on
the contract negotiation? Did the team win? Did he lose?
Did the team lose? You gotta pick sides, Like, no,
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it's just you got a contract done. He's happy, he
has gone through some injuries, he is productive, he is
a leader, he's a pillar for this team. They rewarded him,
Like I don't understand why it's so difficult, Like if
you're going to do a contract with a guy, then
due to contract. If you're not going to do the
contract with the guy, then don't do the contract with
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the guy. I just think that it gets so like
we turned these these contract situations into such messy moments
and and for me, I just feel like this was
a win.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Is that on the player, the organization, the agent, like
who do you because they're obviously like was there there's
some drama.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I'm trying to think who this offseason. I mean, Micah
Parsons was biggest one. What Trey Hendrick said was was
a part of these types of conversations the TJ. Watt
conversation heat it up at some point. What they got
deals done, they did, but there were conversations about it
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get traded away. Yeah, but the conversations were were there.
The conversations were there. That's all I'm saying. And no,
I'm just talking about a specific skill group. That's That's
what I'm talking about, and and and and it's not limited.
It certainly isn't limited. That was just what it was
this offseason. And it's a comparable because this is a
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defensive end that got a big contract. So that's all
I'm saying. But I don't listen. The major part of
it has to be on the organization because they're the
ones that are ultimately making the decision. They're the ones
that are cutting the check. It's ultimately on them to
try to handle things in a way where they keep
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their reputation in play in good standing, and they try
to keep the player's reputation in good standing. Whether it
works out or not, it doesn't have to turn into
this like ugly nasty situation. Either you want to do
the contract and you want to keep the guy happy,
or you don't. That's I think that this is one
of those moments where I think the hats off to
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Detroit as an organization for doing it this way where
it didn't turn into anything.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Kind of an incredible turnaround for them too, because they
were at the laughing stock of the league. They were
one of those teams that you paired up with the
Jets and be like, oh, it's the same old lion,
it's the lie Downs. Don't put them on Thanksgiving any more.
Of that organization is a disaster. And if you look
at what they've done in the draft over the past
few years, outside of maybe Philly, it's hard to find
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anybody who's drafted better than Detroit has. And Aiden Hutchinson's
another guy who was a drafted player. And you could
go all the way back to TJ. Hawkinson, you could
go to Frank rag Now, you could go to DeAndre Swift,
Amen Ross Saint Brown was in the Pina Seol Draft.
He was taken in the fourth round. And if you
just go through year by year, they've drafted somebody that's
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either made a Pro Bowl or somebody that's gotten paid already.
And that was an organization that was the laughing stock
of the league, like that was your second bye week
every single year. And yet here they are, they trade
for Jared Goff and they're they're paying another one of
their own. Kind of turn into a model franchise all
of a sudden in the past few years. Brad Holmes
(24:57):
deserves a lot of credit. Probably doesn't get as much
as he as he deserves from that standpoint, but kind
of incredible when you think about where they were not
long ago and where they are now. So yeah, good
for that.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
And the crazy part is you see how it impacts
other owners, other organizations in the NFL, where now people
see what they've built and they want a piece of it.
Right Like if you look at the New York Jets,
they look at themselves probably similarly to where Detroit was
before Dan Campbell got there and Brad Holmes and everyone
else and built this.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Thing up, and they're trying to get a piece. Now
with Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
The issue is, I don't know the Woody Johnson's gonna
be patient enough to allow Aaron Glenn to mirror what
they did in Detroit. And that's the hardest part. The
hardest part is being able to lose and stay the
course like this is this applies to anything in life.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Like think about even if you're trying to lose weight.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Right, you start working out and usually most people they
see that initial pop after the first month. It's they're like, man,
I feel good, I'm losing weight all stuff. Then what
happens They hit a plateau. They get to a point
where like now losing some of those pounds now, you know,
making those additional gains or changes. They become a bit
harder and it's like whether or not they're able to
(26:16):
like stick through that period of time. I mean, and again,
this could be applied to anything like that's always the
hardest part. It's it's easy to sit there and say, hey,
we got Aaron glennon here, we're winning. This is exactly
how it works, and it's like, no, it's not.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
They lost.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
When Dan Campbell first got there, you know, the ownership
group had to kind of stick through that and see
through that to deliver that plan. And Chris Pielman, who's
been a part of that group, I'm sure played a
role and trying to make sure he tempered the expectations
and tempered everyone else and say, look, we're building this
the right way from the inside out, you know, which
is always overlooked by the way that roster was always
(26:52):
built in the trenches, O line, D line and then
out before they worried about all the other stuff. And
then they hit on a quarterback who kind of had
something to prove and had that kind of tough mindset
and Jared Goff dad is Jack and you know, they
kept moving on from there. So like I look at
this and I just say it's an example to all
(27:14):
those other organizations as to how you should do it.
The problem is is like the owner is just not
many people and again it depends on how they made
their money, but not many are used to dealing with
a lot of the backlash, a lot of the things
that come with getting to the to the point of
it where the Detroit Lions are so good luck. I mean,
(27:35):
keep poaching different coaches, but if you're that ownership group,
you better be able to stand time. You better be
able to say, Okay, let's give this some time. Let's
give the Bears some time as they try to figure out,
you know what they are into, Ben Johnson, But I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I mean again, the.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Track record history, it hasn't been great for Chicago and
New York. If they're trying to mimic what Detroit's doing,
has it typically work out the way they hope?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Detroit's first twenty six games with Dan Campbell they were four,
nineteen and one. How many other organizations would have been
like that's it, like you gotta go at that. Yeah,
we're done from that.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
He's talking about biting kneecaps and press conferences.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I just count down with this gate like he came
in out the gate like we're gonna get knocked down,
bloody my face, like what come on? Bruh, chewing his gum,
Like what are you talking about? Dad? But don't get hey,
don't cats in that locker room they believe and listen,
(28:38):
you got again. We talked about this at length all
the time. If you allow a guy who truly cares,
because I believe. To me, this is my my opinion.
I believe in today's sports scene, today's athlete, you got
to you gotta care about them, and it has to
be genuine care, Like it just has to be. If
(29:03):
you don't have a genuine fondness for the guys that
you're coaching and it's just you coaching, they don't react
the same like these these guys, this generation of guys,
they shut down if they don't feel the communication and
the care and the love coming towards them from their staff.
(29:26):
Like it's different. So if you don't allow for a
coach to genuinely live in who they are and they
have to like subscribe to what this whatever it is
is that the organization has created for you as a coach,
it's gonna be difficult for you to be able to
create an environment where who you are as a person
(29:46):
those things that Dan Campbell said, he's actually able to
walk his talk. A lot of people can't. They're they're
not able, they don't have the they don't have the autonomy,
they don't have the freedom to run it the way
that they want to run it. Would he have worked
in a previous era, Yeah, he would have, because he
(30:07):
has the type of mentality and the acumen and the
relationships people respect him. I think it would have worked
like Dan Campbell would have been Like Dan Campbell actually
has an old school mentality, but his ability to be
able to connect with his athletes is very current. It
is very current because some of these old school coaches,
(30:27):
they're disconnected to the idea of what they represent to
the player. Now they will say they don't, but the
way some of these guys are, and there's still some
of them around, there's still some guys. Like if you
hear how they talk to players, it's not that's not
going to work in twenty twenty five, like dog cussing
out a dude, like you mother effort, you stupid mother effort.
(30:49):
This isn't an age getting fun like that's not. Like, guys,
don't we live in a cringe generation, Like the cringe
general ration is real. They don't respond well to stuff
like that. So so just like players have evolved, coaches
have to evolve with how they cringe generation exactly. It's
(31:11):
so cringe it like everything everything like bothers you like,
everything is like like it's weird softly I mean listen,
I mean I mean.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
How how else would you define that?
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I mean, it's soft because the I mean, my daughters
put me up on game on it right, like like
everything you do, Like if I like, I'll grab my
daughter like I'm I'm a big touchy pheelly. I'm a
big touchy phelly dad. And and my daughter's like like,
(31:47):
don't touch my shoulder, dad, Like and then y'all hear
I hear the cringe, cringe cringe, like like come on,
like I love you like to that point. Man, Oh
you'll get there, You'll get there.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
It make me so sad.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Oh you're gonna get there.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Hug every day.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
They love the hugs, they love the attention, but just
everything get prigd.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
When does it stop?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
It doesn't, that's the that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Like when when do you notice, like they take a
turn towards please that's enough. Yeah, what age?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I would probably say, I mean, like, see, the thing
is with cute what he has on his side is
the one group. They're all like close in age, so
it'll all it just will all evolve at the same time.
And they're girls, so they'll be pretty advanced. What's going
to get interesting is when the boys start to get
(32:42):
older how that dynamic works out. Because my girls dominated man,
man up until like literally what a year ago, Like
he's eighteen now right, his older sisters nineteen, it's twenty
is eighteen. But they've like they dominated him so much
that he didn't even like communicating, Like he didn't have
(33:05):
to communicate, Like they'd be like, man, man wants eggs?
What no cheese? Like like they talked for him. They
oh yeah, like everything, like he just do you uhould
just put his thumb in his mouth. I was at
one point so concerned about what he stopped sucking on
his thumb, Like, dude, just be in the corner, like
(33:25):
what's man man? Man Man needs his diaper change? Dude
didn't even ask for his diaper to get changed. His
sisters be all over top of it, like man man's
mouths like man man went potty, you gotta change them?
Like and their babies like they're barely getting to the
point of where they're speaking, but they're speaking words to
take care of Anyways, I digress. The point I'm making
is is that this cringe generation, you have to be
(33:49):
able to handle them differently because, for what it's worth,
because they are way more advanced. They are way more advanced.
These kids. It's crazy they are way more advanced and
their thinking and their development than ever, more than ever
just based off of exposure, technology, different things like that.
They're just way more advanced. So you have to evolve.
(34:14):
And Dan Campbell, for what it's worth, he has an
old He's able to marry the two. He has an
old school approach. We're tough where you know, nose bleeders,
we're ankle biters, all those different things. But he's also
able to capture the imagination and the trust of the
guys that are in that locker room and most likely
(34:35):
even in the building, even with the ownership, all of
it all. It takes all of it aligning for you
to be able to build the type of culture that
could change a culture of dysfunction that has been a
part of what you've been doing for so long.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Man Man wants e.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
No cheese. That's a true story, bro. They'd be sitting
like you know, we had a caretaker for them when
they were little, so it's like a twenty four hour
person like that was their person, and they'd be putting
in placing orders like I'm going tomorrow. Marley is the
main one. I have the avocado toats. Please no tomatoes. Okay, man, man,
(35:18):
I have eggs but no cheese.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I mean, did he ever ask for Louisiana hot sauce?
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Speaker 1 (37:08):
It, and for that we turned it over to our
executive producer, Ryan Berschinger to find out what the hell's
going on. Bursh oh, good morning, guys.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
Well as we know Carson Wentz is now out for
the season. He's having a season injury ending surgery. He
spoke to the media yesterday and pushed back on the
notion that the Vikings forced him to play through injury.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Oh what his injury.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
This isn't my first rodeo. I'm not an idiot. I
know what I was signing up for going out there.
Nobody was forcing me, pressuring me any of those things.
Anybody in this building. Everybody's handled this tremendously. Communication has
been phenomenal from coaches, trainers, all the things, and so
knew what we were doing all along.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
That doesn't sound like what you said, Bursch. It sounds
like he was like we had supportive Yeah, he's pushing
back on it. What do you mean, well, because there's
some people with He looked like he was like he
was going to cry, right like I'm going to cry
about this, Like this hurts so bad, I'm going to cry.
Like it looked like he had a robotic arm.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
And there's some people thought, you know, if he's that
banged up, why wouldn't you have just put somebody else in?
Speaker 3 (38:16):
And oh, so it was claims that he was put
in against his will, not he said it, no, okay,
got push, Okay, I heard that idea, Okay, I got
you all right? Makes for I mean, why wouldn't you
have wanted to go back in? This is like maybe
his last shot to really get a chance. That's probably
paying that all on his face. Dang, this hurts like hell,
(38:41):
and I know it hurts. And if I if I
tell these people how hurt I am and I gotta
come out, this could be it Like people don't understand
the mental yeah go ahead. Is that people don't understand
that part of it.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Man, Well, I think there's also the position he's in
that that people can understand in regards to the desperation
to what Jonas is saying, like this is your last shot.
But the tough part is is like there's not too
many players who at seventy percent or in that much
pain are gonna go out there and play their best football.
(39:15):
And unfortunately, like this this point of season, everyone's playing
banged up. It's just a varying degrees. It's very seldom
you see someone who's like, yeah, I feel great. It's
like no, no one feels great, and so everyone's.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Dealing with something.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
But there's some guys who are so much more talented
that they can be at that eighty percent and they're
still better than most. So it's just it's a really
really tough spot for him to be in. But unfortunately, man, yeah,
it's uh it probably JJ McCarthy time.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Finally, did you guys ever play at one hundred percent? I?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
No, I can't. At the beginning of the season, I
can't recall playing at one hundred percent honestly, Like, hey,
you feel good, you feel good, but you got to
you got to keep maintenance and maintenance in yourself. Like
it's just I can maybe think back to you Fleek,
(40:11):
maybe not even then, not even in high school, because
I played every position. Like you know, you're not going
to fit. You have to understand that your one hundred
is never going to be a hundred. Like that's that's
you get your mind right, that's all. Get your mind right.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
That's why it doesn't really work for this cringe era.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
It doesn't really work for cringe guys trying to save
his football life and he's got a shoulder hanging off
his body like bright, it's a lot like imagine what
it was like, you know what that was like?
Speaker 4 (40:42):
That was like when you dislocated your kneecap.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah, the differences though, stayed in it got back up,
pop back in hit the show.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
How much did you process in that moment when you
blew your knee out that way? Like did you probably
just dislocated the kneecap? He didn't blow anything out, Okay,
I was trying to make it more no, keep going
bar Yeah, I was trying to make it a bug
when you blew that thing all the way out? Like
what were the first things you thought about? Like does
(41:10):
your life flash in front of you? Like? How am
I going to get to work or walk into work?
How am I going to keep doing what it is
that I'm doing? Like do I put, you know, one
leg into the rat suit one way? Like do you
start with the opposite leg? Do you start with the
hurt leg? Like what what you do? Like? Then you
came up with the conclusion, well, I mean that was
(41:33):
way past the chucky geese days? Oh was it? Because
if you went to a veterinary spot to get fixed, yeah,
you were still a rat well.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
And they put the like I think the wrong uh
straight like all that stuff. Yeah, I didn't didn't work well,
but yeah, listen you know they popped it back in
and hit the shot, so I can't relate to Carson
Wentz's place.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
I just took the pain. You went and saw a
vet animal. Doctor got right, kept going. That's Jonas knocks
the vampire
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Speaker 3 (02:22):
That's back. Yeah, all right, yes there he is.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
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Speaker 4 (02:30):
Hey, are we paniccking about the Dodgers yet?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's set in panic brothers are out. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
They look like that eighteen inning game kind of stole
every ounce of energy they had left in them. Oh no,
And I think Petros pointed it out on social media.
They looked old, they look afraid, and Baltimore is just
slugging away and Baltimore U or excuse me, Toronto.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I was about to say, Wow, Toronto's just slugging away
bird and that's an oriole, that's true.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And uh. And they're headed back to Canada for Game
six and seven coming up Friday Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Dang.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh yeah. Not not what everybody thought, but not the
worst thing in the world. I want seven games. I
said it from the get go. I want to see
seven games. That company man right there, let's let's get
this rocking. Yeah, Kenda sub jays kind of blue Jays maintain.
See now, it's like you had that two game giveaway,
you know, where you're getting your your rest or you're
(03:34):
getting yourself back together during that two game stretch. Can
the Blue Jays handle the next two games? Or did
they did they shoot their load to get back to Toronto?
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Did they give did they give their all to get
back to Toronto?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You know, and they got nothing left?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And maybe or maybe even the emotional you know, the
emotional aspect of going into to the Los Angeles and
winning at Dodger Stadium. You know, there could be some
hangover from that.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Maybe I'm viewing this differently, but it's not so much
to me like the whatever you just said as far
as like the the I'm not eve gonna repeat.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
What you must said. But me, I mean, what are
you talking about? If you shoot you you know, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I don't feel like they're the exertion that baseball players
put out unless.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You're pitching, Uh maybe catching, that's kind of the extent.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Like it's it's not you're not running a marathon every
time you're playing nine endings or even if you go
to eighteen. This to me is more about this this
thought that when when we first saw the World Series announced,
we thought the Dodgers were gonna win, hey in four
and five, Like that was some of the conversation, Like
people made this series made out to be a David
(05:01):
versus Eliath.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Meanwhile, we kind of forget that.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Okay, they played in the regular season, the Dodgers weren't
like that much better, and in fact, the Blue Jays
obviously won a game more, which is why Toronto has
home field. Like these teams are much more evenly matched,
and might I say, like outside of the star power
that the Dodgers have, the team, the entire Toronto Blue
(05:27):
Jays team has kind of showed up more so in
a better spot than the Dodgers have.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Like I kind of sit there and just watch.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
This series and say, like, this is basically a team
that was all about hype because they've got arguably the
greatest talent we've ever seen in baseball and some other,
don't get me wrong, really good players. But then that
kind of just that's kind of it. It feels like
you've got a team versus a bunch of like star power,
star player individuals, and we're kind of seeing how that's
(05:54):
playing out right now.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I don't know if I don't know about what he's
talking about. All I'm saying is, since when the emotions
run high, you were just.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
So good to be back by the way at LSU Florida,
then Penn State, they're head coaching search.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
That's what I'm getting, at least from the people out there.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
What's interesting, who say good?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
What LSU Florida, fron State, the order of appeal, That's
how the.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Search from all these people are kind of talking about it.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Gus.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
The only like Virginia Tech last night was the yeah
that's a four gun conclusion.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Huh yeah, well looks.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
A lot it does outside like last night was the
first game that actually surprised me in the series because
I wasn't surprised Toronto came out and won Game one.
There was a layoff for the Dodgers, you know, the
bats got hot. I wasn't surprised that Yamamoto came back
in Game two and pitched the way he did. He's
been fantastic. Game three win eighteen innings, and I wasn't
(06:52):
surprised that Toronto responded in Game four. That game last night,
they didn't the Dodgers did not look good and just
didn't make mistakes. There was one pitch that you savaged
through that key Ky Hernandez hit out. Other than that,
he dominated them. And it's not just Look the Dodger
bullpen gets a lot of credit or a lot of criticism,
(07:13):
and a lot of people look at the bullpen and
go that's been an issue, and it has been an
issue clearly, But Mookie Betts has been awful. He said
it after the game last night. They've got a lot
of guys who just aren't hitting right now. And oh Tani,
you know, he didn't deliver last night in a lot
of spots and a lot of opportunities. So I just
I looked at last night's game and I go, that
(07:34):
was the one that kind of surprised me because I
didn't expect for them to have the quote unquote hangover
effect another game after whatever happened a couple of nights ago,
and that's exactly what it felt like.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I might be traumatized. Maybe that's why I'm siding on
the side of the whole emotional deal. Let me ask
you guys this Toronto, if they were to win the
World Series, what type of impact does that have on
the MLB? Is it a positive impact? Is it a
negative impact? Is it indifferent? Is it?
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Like?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I think it's a thought.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Well, first off, like I would say this, like again,
the David and Goliath thought probably comes from payroll, Like
we tend to look at the teams to spend the
most money and say those are the teams that are
going to win.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
A World Series.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
So yeah, it kind of stands in the way of
that argument or that discussion point well.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And like the other part of that David and Goliath
payroll aspect is there's like, oh man, you know the
it's like the Blue Jays are just piecing this whole
thing together with some gum and some duct tape. Dude,
Vlad Grerow just got five hundred million dollars. It's not
like they're not shelling out a little bit of cash.
They've made deals at the deadline. They've got Bobashett who's
looking to get paid in the offseason, and whether or
(08:47):
not they're going to want to keep him around or
not that remains to be seen. But yeah, it's not
It's not like this team is devoid of talent like
they as you pointed, out they won more games in them.
So what it does to baseball, I think Baseball's and
kind of this holding pattern because there's more than likely
and I've talked to anybody in the know, it's about
(09:07):
ninety nine percent sure there's going to be a work
stoppage after next year that you know, they want the
salary cap, the players don't want that, and so there's
a lot of teams who are kind of like, eh,
not really sure how we should go about this. The
Dodgers kind of got ahead of this whole thing and
have gotten their World Series last year and have been
on this run, and I think there's teams around baseball
(09:30):
that are just kind of operating with the understanding that
we're not really sure. So it's almost like, can you
get in your World Series in the structure that Major
League Baseball is in currently before everything might change here
in a couple of years, and so I just I
don't know that long term you can look at it
and say what does this do for baseball? Because I
(09:50):
don't know that anybody has answers after this upcoming year
because there's going to be a stoppage. So that's another
part of the storyline that isn't.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
So saying get locked out, which which would make sense.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I feel like this deal has been much better for
the players than the owners. The problem is, you know,
how much leverage do the owners have in those negotiations
to put in a salary cap.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I mean, this is and.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I understand there's a lot who feel like the spending
is out of control. I mean, when you see some
of these baseball numbers, it just everything else pales in comparison.
I mean even some of the NBA money, which is ridiculous.
And they've got a soft cap. But I do feel like,
you know, there there should be some sort of system
put in place, and if they do put in a
(10:33):
hard cap, it would be really interesting to see, like
if there's not more stories I want to say necessarily Toronto,
but more organizations that could be competitive with spending less,
which is obviously not what the players want. You know,
they don't want to have a cap put on what
they're potentially able to make and allow some of these
big budgeted teams to not go out there and just
(10:53):
buy them up.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
But I do think during the.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Course of the regular season, I do think if you're
talking about like playoffs and figure out who's gonna win
it all. It does play into other teams having to
be a little more nimble and having to be able to,
you know, do more with less.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
And that's what they call a moneyball.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Call whatever you want, because we've seen those success stories,
but that's ultimately what it gets to, and maybe it
leads to more parody within the league.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I would think at least.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I mean, a team hasn't won back to back World
Series in twenty five years. It's not as if the
Dodgers are just running rough shot and winning every single
World Series like that. They've run into issues like there's
if you were to ask a Dodger fan, they would say, yeah,
we'd expect they would have won more by now. So
I just I know that people like to paint them
(11:40):
out to be well, it's the Yankees from back in
the day, but it's not because the Yankees actually were
winning a bunch of World Series and the Dodgers have
found themselves in difficult spots in the postseason, have come
up short several times over the past several years.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I think the hard thing is and by the way,
like it's not like the Blue Jays don't spend like
I think that's one of the misnomer about you know,
this whole situation, like, are they spending as much as
the Dodgers?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
No, like that.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
The total team payrolls like three hundred and fifty million
or something like that this year, and obviously the Mets
have paid a lot. You know, Philly's up there, the
Yankees are up there. And then you start getting down to,
you know, the depths of someone like the Blue Jays
fifty million. Oh, the Pirates on, let me scroll all
the eighty four million.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I'm more of an eighty four minutes guy, but damn
childhood Pirates, but more of an's guy.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, don't worry.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Only they're only spending one hundred and nine so but
don't worry, guys. No one's worse than the Miami Marlins,
who've spent a little over almost sixty eight million.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
That's their total team payroll.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Their team payroll was sixty eight million, a little under that.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Actually, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Good for the Marlins, good for them.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
But but what you kind of notice is, for the
most part, there's a direct correlation. I mean, outside out
of Milwaukee, Milwaukee's only one hundred and twenty one, you know,
and that's a team that obviously made it really far
Cleveland one hundred million. You know, that's a team that
also made it decently, decently far. I was just exceed
the expectations. So that's that's part of the issue. Is
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when you don't have a cap, there tends to be
more of a correlation between what you're spending what you're
getting out of it. With some exceptions, but more often
than not that's the case. So if that change happens
that you're talking about, it would it'd be interesting to
see how baseball would adjust. You know, the trade deadline
would probably look a lot different too. But it'd be fun,
I know that much. Just not as much fun for
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the players.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Because that union is I would say, if you're an
NFL player, you would look at that union and go,
why can't we get that?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
You should be consulting with them. Yeah, it doesn't make
any sense.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You guys know touch out.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Do it.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
But you know, I gave what I had.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
That's what you had.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Again, ahead, I mean the World Series I gave back,
but that's what I had. I don't know all this
other stuff, y'all right now, Like I'm sure some people
find gave us an inning that's it. I was just
looking at y'alls.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Well, I just but it is kind of interesting that
the the MLB players Union is sort of the strongest
and the one that you want to be and meanwhile
in the NFL you got a guy going to strip clubs.
Like it's just it's kind of interesting that that now
you see sort of the end result of all that.
But yeah, probably after next year, maybe some things will change.
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yesterday was a nice day. A nice day for Aiden.
Hutchinson agrees to a four year, one hundred and eighty
million dollar extension good for one hundred and forty one
million guaranteed with the Lions only. Micah Parsons has a
Charger annual salary among non quarterbacks by a million and
a half a year. Big win for us.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Talk at that bar.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Hell yeah, all right, good for you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Take that Trayvon Walker going number one over him?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Yeah, my ass and all seriousness though, did he's been
through I don't know, do you guys remember his story
and msgging a little bit when he kind of came
to prominence at Michigan his final year, Like, he's been
through a lot of injuries. You know, it's it's not
a surprise he's been able to come back from it
because he did that during his time in college.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But what six sacs so far through seven games.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
You got to feel happy for him, you know, like
he's just he never allows the adversity to impact him.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
And he's been able to be the player that the
Lions were.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Hoping he would be and that you could tell to
just he's the motor, he's got the type of leader
he is. All those things they kind of add up
and this is this is the type of guy through
an organization. You know, you want to pay because he's
going to be a good guy in the locker room,
he's going to be a good leader and even probably
through the ups and downs. So happy for him, happy
for the team too. You know, this is typically spots
(19:46):
where Detroit's had you know, different draft picks and it
hasn't worked out, and this, obviously, this has worked out
the way they'd hoped.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
It's interesting that the timing of it, the placement of it,
it doesn't come with any pre drama to it getting done. No,
is he going to make it into camp? Is it
is it going to hinder what, you know, what the
relationship is? Is it like it just boom, here's a
contract And and to me, I think that's more the
(20:15):
bigger story is like how do you find a way
to harmoniously be able to execute major contracts in moments
leading up to and it being executed like this? Like
it should. There should be a guide on doing contracts
(20:38):
without the drama. Drama free. And I think that that's
the coolest thing about it, because you didn't villainize villainize
Aiden Hutchinson. As you mentioned, he is a pillar in
the community. He's he's established a voice there obviously playing
college ball not too far away from the you know,
the place. Now that he's doing on pro level, it
(21:02):
just seems like this is the way you go about
doing it, Like it's like, Okay, it's going to be
a conversation. It's going to be he got a big contract.
But what it's not going to be is is this
negotiation of distraction is Aiden Hutchinson and his agent leaking
out information that they may want to seek a trade
(21:23):
or drama. You know, zero drama, bro, And now you
as a team, you're able to benefit from him continuing
to be the star that he is without people being
upset one way or the other. Did he win on
the contract negotiation? Did the team win? Did he lose?
Did the team lose? You gotta pick sides, Like, no,
(21:44):
it's just you got a contract done. He's happy, he
has gone through some injuries, he is productive, he is
a leader, he's a pillar for this team. They rewarded him,
Like I don't understand why it's so difficult, Like if
you're going to do a contract with a guy, then
due to contract. If you're not going to do the
contract with the guy, then don't do the contract with
(22:06):
the guy. I just think that it gets so like
we turned these these contract situations into such messy moments
and and for me, I just feel like this was
a win.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Is that on the player, the organization, the agent, like
who do you because they're obviously like was there there's
some drama.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I'm trying to think who this offseason. I mean, Micah
Parsons was biggest one. What Trey Hendrick said was was
a part of these types of conversations the TJ. Watt
conversation heat it up at some point. What they got
deals done, they did, but there were conversations about it
(22:43):
get traded away. Yeah, but the conversations were were there.
The conversations were there. That's all I'm saying. And no,
I'm just talking about a specific skill group. That's That's
what I'm talking about, and and and and it's not limited.
It certainly isn't limited. That was just what it was
this offseason. And it's a comparable because this is a
(23:03):
defensive end that got a big contract. So that's all
I'm saying. But I don't listen. The major part of
it has to be on the organization because they're the
ones that are ultimately making the decision. They're the ones
that are cutting the check. It's ultimately on them to
try to handle things in a way where they keep
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their reputation in play in good standing, and they try
to keep the player's reputation in good standing. Whether it
works out or not, it doesn't have to turn into
this like ugly nasty situation. Either you want to do
the contract and you want to keep the guy happy,
or you don't. That's I think that this is one
of those moments where I think the hats off to
(23:46):
Detroit as an organization for doing it this way where
it didn't turn into anything.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Kind of an incredible turnaround for them too, because they
were at the laughing stock of the league. They were
one of those teams that you paired up with the
Jets and be like, oh, it's the same old lion,
it's the lie Downs. Don't put them on Thanksgiving any more.
Of that organization is a disaster. And if you look
at what they've done in the draft over the past
few years, outside of maybe Philly, it's hard to find
(24:12):
anybody who's drafted better than Detroit has. And Aiden Hutchinson's
another guy who was a drafted player. And you could
go all the way back to TJ. Hawkinson, you could
go to Frank rag Now, you could go to DeAndre Swift,
Amen Ross Saint Brown was in the Pina Seol Draft.
He was taken in the fourth round. And if you
just go through year by year, they've drafted somebody that's
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either made a Pro Bowl or somebody that's gotten paid already.
And that was an organization that was the laughing stock
of the league, like that was your second bye week
every single year. And yet here they are, they trade
for Jared Goff and they're they're paying another one of
their own. Kind of turn into a model franchise all
of a sudden in the past few years. Brad Holmes
(24:57):
deserves a lot of credit. Probably doesn't get as much
as he as he deserves from that standpoint, but kind
of incredible when you think about where they were not
long ago and where they are now. So yeah, good
for that.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
And the crazy part is you see how it impacts
other owners, other organizations in the NFL, where now people
see what they've built and they want a piece of it.
Right Like if you look at the New York Jets,
they look at themselves probably similarly to where Detroit was
before Dan Campbell got there and Brad Holmes and everyone
else and built this.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Thing up, and they're trying to get a piece. Now
with Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
The issue is, I don't know the Woody Johnson's gonna
be patient enough to allow Aaron Glenn to mirror what
they did in Detroit. And that's the hardest part. The
hardest part is being able to lose and stay the
course like this is this applies to anything in life.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Like think about even if you're trying to lose weight.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Right, you start working out and usually most people they
see that initial pop after the first month. It's they're like, man,
I feel good, I'm losing weight all stuff. Then what
happens They hit a plateau. They get to a point
where like now losing some of those pounds now, you know,
making those additional gains or changes. They become a bit
harder and it's like whether or not they're able to
(26:16):
like stick through that period of time. I mean, and again,
this could be applied to anything like that's always the
hardest part. It's it's easy to sit there and say, hey,
we got Aaron glennon here, we're winning. This is exactly
how it works, and it's like, no, it's not.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
They lost.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
When Dan Campbell first got there, you know, the ownership
group had to kind of stick through that and see
through that to deliver that plan. And Chris Pielman, who's
been a part of that group, I'm sure played a
role and trying to make sure he tempered the expectations
and tempered everyone else and say, look, we're building this
the right way from the inside out, you know, which
is always overlooked by the way that roster was always
(26:52):
built in the trenches, O line, D line and then
out before they worried about all the other stuff. And
then they hit on a quarterback who kind of had
something to prove and had that kind of tough mindset
and Jared Goff dad is Jack and you know, they
kept moving on from there. So like I look at
this and I just say it's an example to all
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those other organizations as to how you should do it.
The problem is is like the owner is just not
many people and again it depends on how they made
their money, but not many are used to dealing with
a lot of the backlash, a lot of the things
that come with getting to the to the point of
it where the Detroit Lions are so good luck. I mean,
(27:35):
keep poaching different coaches, but if you're that ownership group,
you better be able to stand time. You better be
able to say, Okay, let's give this some time. Let's
give the Bears some time as they try to figure out,
you know what they are into, Ben Johnson, But I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I mean again, the.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Track record history, it hasn't been great for Chicago and
New York. If they're trying to mimic what Detroit's doing,
has it typically work out the way they hope?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Detroit's first twenty six games with Dan Campbell they were four,
nineteen and one. How many other organizations would have been
like that's it, like you gotta go at that. Yeah,
we're done from that.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
He's talking about biting kneecaps and press conferences.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I just count down with this gate like he came
in out the gate like we're gonna get knocked down,
bloody my face, like what come on? Bruh, chewing his gum,
Like what are you talking about? Dad? But don't get hey,
don't cats in that locker room they believe and listen,
(28:38):
you got again. We talked about this at length all
the time. If you allow a guy who truly cares,
because I believe. To me, this is my my opinion.
I believe in today's sports scene, today's athlete, you got
to you gotta care about them, and it has to
be genuine care, Like it just has to be. If
(29:03):
you don't have a genuine fondness for the guys that
you're coaching and it's just you coaching, they don't react
the same like these these guys, this generation of guys,
they shut down if they don't feel the communication and
the care and the love coming towards them from their staff.
(29:26):
Like it's different. So if you don't allow for a
coach to genuinely live in who they are and they
have to like subscribe to what this whatever it is
is that the organization has created for you as a coach,
it's gonna be difficult for you to be able to
create an environment where who you are as a person
(29:46):
those things that Dan Campbell said, he's actually able to
walk his talk. A lot of people can't. They're they're
not able, they don't have the they don't have the autonomy,
they don't have the freedom to run it the way
that they want to run it. Would he have worked
in a previous era, Yeah, he would have, because he
(30:07):
has the type of mentality and the acumen and the
relationships people respect him. I think it would have worked
like Dan Campbell would have been Like Dan Campbell actually
has an old school mentality, but his ability to be
able to connect with his athletes is very current. It
is very current because some of these old school coaches,
(30:27):
they're disconnected to the idea of what they represent to
the player. Now they will say they don't, but the
way some of these guys are, and there's still some
of them around, there's still some guys. Like if you
hear how they talk to players, it's not that's not
going to work in twenty twenty five, like dog cussing
out a dude, like you mother effort, you stupid mother effort.
(30:49):
This isn't an age getting fun like that's not. Like, guys,
don't we live in a cringe generation, Like the cringe
general ration is real. They don't respond well to stuff
like that. So so just like players have evolved, coaches
have to evolve with how they cringe generation exactly. It's
(31:11):
so cringe it like everything everything like bothers you like,
everything is like like it's weird softly I mean listen,
I mean I mean.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
How how else would you define that?
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I mean, it's soft because the I mean, my daughters
put me up on game on it right, like like
everything you do, Like if I like, I'll grab my
daughter like I'm I'm a big touchy pheelly. I'm a
big touchy phelly dad. And and my daughter's like like,
(31:47):
don't touch my shoulder, dad, Like and then y'all hear
I hear the cringe, cringe cringe, like like come on,
like I love you like to that point. Man, Oh
you'll get there, You'll get there.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
It make me so sad.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Oh you're gonna get there.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Hug every day.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
They love the hugs, they love the attention, but just
everything get prigd.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
When does it stop?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
It doesn't, that's the that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Like when when do you notice, like they take a
turn towards please that's enough. Yeah, what age?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I would probably say, I mean, like, see, the thing
is with cute what he has on his side is
the one group. They're all like close in age, so
it'll all it just will all evolve at the same time.
And they're girls, so they'll be pretty advanced. What's going
to get interesting is when the boys start to get
(32:42):
older how that dynamic works out. Because my girls dominated man,
man up until like literally what a year ago, Like
he's eighteen now right, his older sisters nineteen, it's twenty
is eighteen. But they've like they dominated him so much
that he didn't even like communicating, Like he didn't have
(33:05):
to communicate, Like they'd be like, man, man wants eggs?
What no cheese? Like like they talked for him. They
oh yeah, like everything, like he just do you uhould
just put his thumb in his mouth. I was at
one point so concerned about what he stopped sucking on
his thumb, Like, dude, just be in the corner, like
(33:25):
what's man man? Man Man needs his diaper change? Dude
didn't even ask for his diaper to get changed. His
sisters be all over top of it, like man man's
mouths like man man went potty, you gotta change them?
Like and their babies like they're barely getting to the
point of where they're speaking, but they're speaking words to
take care of Anyways, I digress. The point I'm making
is is that this cringe generation, you have to be
(33:49):
able to handle them differently because, for what it's worth,
because they are way more advanced. They are way more advanced.
These kids. It's crazy they are way more advanced and
their thinking and their development than ever, more than ever
just based off of exposure, technology, different things like that.
They're just way more advanced. So you have to evolve.
(34:14):
And Dan Campbell, for what it's worth, he has an
old He's able to marry the two. He has an
old school approach. We're tough where you know, nose bleeders,
we're ankle biters, all those different things. But he's also
able to capture the imagination and the trust of the
guys that are in that locker room and most likely
(34:35):
even in the building, even with the ownership, all of
it all. It takes all of it aligning for you
to be able to build the type of culture that
could change a culture of dysfunction that has been a
part of what you've been doing for so long.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Man Man wants e.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
No cheese. That's a true story, bro. They'd be sitting
like you know, we had a caretaker for them when
they were little, so it's like a twenty four hour
person like that was their person, and they'd be putting
in placing orders like I'm going tomorrow. Marley is the
main one. I have the avocado toats. Please no tomatoes. Okay, man, man,
(35:18):
I have eggs but no cheese.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I mean, did he ever ask for Louisiana hot sauce?
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we go. Yeah, we are telling you about somebody who
apparently wants to get involved to a certain extent with
some very catchy comments in the world of football. We'll
(36:38):
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Speaker 1 (37:08):
It, and for that we turned it over to our
executive producer, Ryan Berschinger to find out what the hell's
going on. Bursh oh, good morning, guys.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
Well as we know Carson Wentz is now out for
the season. He's having a season injury ending surgery. He
spoke to the media yesterday and pushed back on the
notion that the Vikings forced him to play through injury.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Oh what his injury.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
This isn't my first rodeo. I'm not an idiot. I
know what I was signing up for going out there.
Nobody was forcing me, pressuring me any of those things.
Anybody in this building. Everybody's handled this tremendously. Communication has
been phenomenal from coaches, trainers, all the things, and so
knew what we were doing all along.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
That doesn't sound like what you said, Bursch. It sounds
like he was like we had supportive Yeah, he's pushing
back on it. What do you mean, well, because there's
some people with He looked like he was like he
was going to cry, right like I'm going to cry
about this, Like this hurts so bad, I'm going to cry.
Like it looked like he had a robotic arm.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
And there's some people thought, you know, if he's that
banged up, why wouldn't you have just put somebody else in?
Speaker 3 (38:16):
And oh, so it was claims that he was put
in against his will, not he said it, no, okay,
got push, Okay, I heard that idea, Okay, I got
you all right? Makes for I mean, why wouldn't you
have wanted to go back in? This is like maybe
his last shot to really get a chance. That's probably
paying that all on his face. Dang, this hurts like hell,
(38:41):
and I know it hurts. And if I if I
tell these people how hurt I am and I gotta
come out, this could be it Like people don't understand
the mental yeah go ahead. Is that people don't understand
that part of it.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Man, Well, I think there's also the position he's in
that that people can understand in regards to the desperation
to what Jonas is saying, like this is your last shot.
But the tough part is is like there's not too
many players who at seventy percent or in that much
pain are gonna go out there and play their best football.
(39:15):
And unfortunately, like this this point of season, everyone's playing
banged up. It's just a varying degrees. It's very seldom
you see someone who's like, yeah, I feel great. It's
like no, no one feels great, and so everyone's.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Dealing with something.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
But there's some guys who are so much more talented
that they can be at that eighty percent and they're
still better than most. So it's just it's a really
really tough spot for him to be in. But unfortunately, man, yeah,
it's uh it probably JJ McCarthy time.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Finally, did you guys ever play at one hundred percent? I?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
No, I can't. At the beginning of the season, I
can't recall playing at one hundred percent honestly, Like, hey,
you feel good, you feel good, but you got to
you got to keep maintenance and maintenance in yourself. Like
it's just I can maybe think back to you Fleek,
(40:11):
maybe not even then, not even in high school, because
I played every position. Like you know, you're not going
to fit. You have to understand that your one hundred
is never going to be a hundred. Like that's that's
you get your mind right, that's all. Get your mind right.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
That's why it doesn't really work for this cringe era.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
It doesn't really work for cringe guys trying to save
his football life and he's got a shoulder hanging off
his body like bright, it's a lot like imagine what
it was like, you know what that was like?
Speaker 4 (40:42):
That was like when you dislocated your kneecap.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah, the differences though, stayed in it got back up,
pop back in hit the show.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
How much did you process in that moment when you
blew your knee out that way? Like did you probably
just dislocated the kneecap? He didn't blow anything out, Okay,
I was trying to make it more no, keep going
bar Yeah, I was trying to make it a bug
when you blew that thing all the way out? Like
what were the first things you thought about? Like does
(41:10):
your life flash in front of you? Like? How am
I going to get to work or walk into work?
How am I going to keep doing what it is
that I'm doing? Like do I put, you know, one
leg into the rat suit one way? Like do you
start with the opposite leg? Do you start with the
hurt leg? Like what what you do? Like? Then you
came up with the conclusion, well, I mean that was
(41:33):
way past the chucky geese days? Oh was it? Because
if you went to a veterinary spot to get fixed, yeah,
you were still a rat well.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
And they put the like I think the wrong uh
straight like all that stuff. Yeah, I didn't didn't work well,
but yeah, listen you know they popped it back in
and hit the shot, so I can't relate to Carson
Wentz's place.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
I just took the pain. You went and saw a
vet animal. Doctor got right, kept going. That's Jonas knocks
the vampire
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