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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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usuals in case you missed it, Dean Blandino's gonna stop by.
He's gonna tell you about his comedy career. Yes, that
actually happened. Stick around and find out more about it.
We're also gonna have the leftovers. Plus, we're gonna have
a conversation about a game that maybe some of you
(00:21):
didn't even get to watch last night, and he didn't
really miss much between the Packers and the Eagles. We're
gonna talk about another coach being fired in the NFL
and what does it mean for the Giants moving forward?
Is it even worth Joe Burrow returning to the Cincinnati
Bengals and shots fired at a college football program from
one coach. Plus, we're gonna tell you about something called
(00:43):
a moose knuckle meatball, and for some reason, black Tar
Heroin came up in conversation. It's all yours coming up
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, don't come up in this show. Talking crazy with
your old thick tongue.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Ahead, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Already, No, you're already about to jump right out the gate.
You got three feet down onto the ground yet and
you're about to jump out the gate talking and.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Smack yo thic tongue. Ass five. Come on, it is
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Speaker 3 (02:04):
Hey, how you doing guys?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Game last night?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I loved it? Yeah, I absolutely thought it was amazing.
It was super awesome. Give one up for the defenses.
How about that the dfs showed up and were the
center stage. They were the most important pieces of a
Monday night throttle and throw down and showdown. It wasn't
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the quarterbacks, yay, it wasn't the receiver yay. It was
kind of the running backs and uh yeah, there you go.
So the defenses showed up for Monday night.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I'm glad you were able to watch because unfortunately with
this whole YouTube, TV, Google.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
And the Disney dispute, so no ABC, no ESPN.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I tried and like whatever capacity I could to watch,
no dice. Wasn't I even think I have ESPN And
somehow it wasn't allowing me to even watch just do that.
So it was a weird circumstance. But I'm like, following
through game cast on my phone, it was off.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I went out, I went I went to to I
spoke at our business school last night schmiel and then
I went over to Champs on Atherton to watch. My
wife was excited to get a hold of a really
really ginormous moosh knuckle nut meatball. Meatball, Meet a moosh
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knuckle nut meatball.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, I mean that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
He's a crowd huh.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean, wow, she crushed that meatball to.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Took her the whole took her the whole town.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
That meatball was so big they call it a Mooch's
knuckle nut.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
And and it took her the whole game. Yeah, and
it took her the whole game that almost the whole
thing couldn't even finish it just one meatball, imagine that.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
And it has like a christy outside.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It's not it's called what what's it called, Trish?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
A knuckleball because.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It's a little different.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Moose knuckle nuts sounds way better moose.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
So moose was nowhere to be found in the entire description.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
But and and the and the menu is based off
of baseball, so it's a it's called a knuckleball because
it's actually a little bit bigger than a baseball, I guess.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
So they said, what's up, Trish? What up? Yeah? She
waves what up? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So we had a good time watching the game, and
you know, I got a chance.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I'm in Philly.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I'm in Pennsylvania, so there were a ton of Philly fans.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
There were there were a lot of green Bay fans.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I didn't realize how many green Bay fans there are
in the world. Like I've just started to notice that
there is a tremendously large amount of green Bay fans
that are in the world. There were a lot of
green Bay fans in there last night.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
In Dallas, Pittsburgh, green Bay, tho are the three largest
fan bases? Three huh Raiders someone there.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I would have thought. I would have thought.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, the Raiders in Dallas, those would have been
the three. I would have thought, Yeah, I mean yeah,
But now I realize how big fan bases are for Philly,
for green Bay, there's probably one more than I'm forgetting
Kansas City. Kansas City's got a crazy fan base, a
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larger fan base than I was aware of. But maybe
it's because of recency effect and their success.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, maybe I.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Don't know me Chicago as well too, Bears, No, No,
not really, just you all right, So I don't know
what to make I don't know what to make of
post Pittsburgh on Sunday night in the Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
You know us.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Okay off they look terrible.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, they're I mean, they don't have all their receivers there,
they're banged up. If anything, I would be more concerned about.
I mean, I would be concerned about both their offenses
after last night, but I would be more concerned about
Philly's offense because they had all the deir players.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I'm still I'm still trying to figure out what Nick
Sirianni was doing late night.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Where's a J Brown man? Like? Where is he? Like?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I saw him on the field, I saw his jersey,
I saw him running. I even saw make a catch.
I believe a catch. I don't know what was it
an a catch? I saw him?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
But what what two catches? What? What are like?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I don't we hear aj Brown come out in frustration
in the media.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I feel like it's warranted.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You can't be as talented as he is, being one
of the biggest games thus far of the year, and
you you get two receptions for thirteen yards. I don't
I don't you know, I don't understand that their offenses,
their offense was more concerning to me than Green Bays.
I look at Green Bay. You got injuries like maybe
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you'll you'll improve. Josh Jacobs is a beast like he
does his part. He works his ass off to try
to make things happen. I think if Christian Watson has
the rest of his crew out there with him, he's
going to be more effective and what he's able to do.
Jordan Love will be more effective in what he's able
(08:04):
to do because it gives them more more firepower.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I wasn't I didn't walk away overly overly.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Like critical and concern with Green Bay because I want
to see what they look like when everybody's back. But
if I'm Philly, I'm concerned because you played great defense
and your defense did what it needed to do. But
is that sustainable? That would be my question, can you sustain?
And maybe they can because that is a very very
talented defense, but that would have been I came away
(08:36):
with questions about the Eagles offense more so than anything else.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So late in the game, there's thirty three seconds left,
Philly's got the ball at the Green Bay thirty five. Yeah,
it's a fourth and six and they're up ten to seven.
Well they're up ten, they're up ten to seven, and
instead of punting it and trying to pin green Bay
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deep instead of trying to you know, kick the field goal.
Go up six, with green Bay having no timeouts left,
they go forward on fourth and six and throw deep.
Of course it's incomplete because it was to Aj Brown,
and you gave green Bay the ball back at the
thirty five with thirty seconds left and an opportunity if
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you can kick a field goal to tie the game.
It worked out for him. But afterwards Nick Sirianni, the
head coach of the Eagles, spoke and tried to explain
the decision making following the game.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
I think we were it was into the wind on
that one. I knew the kick would had to be
a little bit lower trajectory of a kick that on
that particular one. I got a lot of faith in
our offense. It didn't work out on this one, you know,
you know, we we just didn't. We just didn't get it.
But the decision I stand put on that decision, you know,
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especially being up three, because you go up six, they're
still going to need a touchdown in hell Mary everything
like that. So we would ended the game if we
would have got that, and then got a lot of
faith in our guys to be able to do that.
But the reason I didn't kick the field goal again
being up three, and also just this trajectory into the
wind there on that particular one.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So then why did you throw deep? Like if the
wind was such a problem, Like, why throw it deep
the well?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Because an incomplete pass is much different than a missed
field goal, not that much different. You take a chance
on the pass, You take a chance on the pass,
It's much different.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Then, Yeah, I guess maybe I.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Don't know, just punt it deep and pin them deep.
They couldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Maybe they didn't want to go deep. Maybe that was
just what jayalen Hurst decided to do. You know, maybe
that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Troy Aikman was baffled by it on the.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Make any sense to me either, you got I'm just
trying to help. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
It sounded like Nick tried really really hard to say
a whole bunch of happen. We're saying a whole bunch
of something. But you know, I don't know, I don't know.
I just tried. I tried.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Look, I mean, I just yeah, I'm watching going what's
happening here?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I don't get it?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Why not just you know putting. You know, McManus of
course shanked the the kick and so it didn't ultimately
end up mattering. But yeah, that was That was a
defensive performance, that's for sure last night. So it was
nice to see, you know, a little change of.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Bush push has got to go. It's the first time
that I'm saying it.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
And I mean people were out.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It's just way, it's just so egregious now. And I
know they slow it down to the point of where
you can see how early they are when they're going.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
But it's it's like it was easy to see. Oh
it was bad. It was bad. It's bad.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
You didn't have to slow it down either, Like it
was all over social media. Everyone's looking at how slow
you know, I shouldn't even slow, but like how much
of a jump they're getting off the football.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
It goes back to the initial point of if the
whole reason why you're allowed to push or aid the
defender is because you couldn't officiate the play. This is
getting to the point where you can't officiate the play,
Like you're already allowing false starts to happen. You're making
it legal and giving them a huge jump. I just
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think if that's the case, then you can't officiate the play.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And then here we go back to player safety. Them
dudes are not only jumping early, but they're low and
they're leading with their forearms like they are literally leading
with the forearm like cocked, ready to go to beat
that shit in to death or whatever it is is
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that they're going to hit with with that forearm. And
it's not like to me, it's a very it's it's
a very dangerous play man. The way they come off
of that ball and they're coming off early, that's it's.
You know, you can't claim you can't pick and choose
when you want to claim player safety, can't do it.
(13:22):
And that's what they're seemingly do doing with you know,
especially as it applies to the tush push.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
It's like it's last night was bad, Like that was bad.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, it's not even like it's not like as far
as esthetically pleasing, it's not that, it's not. I just
they want I know, they want more offense, but I mean,
you can't figure out a way to come up with
something new. And if we asked Plaandino about it, he's
going to get frustrated. He's going to get a red
ass about it today. I hope he does, because yeah,
(13:54):
it feels like it's on its course.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yah, I mean yeah from our yeah to climb back in.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Uh, I get to right because the money line.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yeah, your money line, man, you're able to avoid the
for weekend, going two and five, Jonas unfortunately as.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
The season is go back to yeah, well not to
go bad. He went back to one, so he goes
three and four.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I mean, the real tragedy is.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Right where you belong under.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
The real tragedy is the one and two performance on
Knox Locks, which was on a heater. Uh knocks Locks.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Not really.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
You tend to make up stuff on this show about
your show because you know no one knows.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
No one's following that.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I do tell people, if they do care to stay
on and listen to Jonas, to rethink it.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Smart.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
That's smart, not signed off.
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That's really that's really good advice.
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Joe from.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
The Yeah yeah uh.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
For the season now, Jonas is twenty seven and twenty eight.
That's a sub five hundred record. Now sorry, after his
three and four performance, Lvar, you're at thirty six thirty one,
unfortunately moving toward closer.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Towards Yeah, I won't move closer towards it that I
won't never get to that that point. But got's hear about.
Let's hear about Braiden Quinn. Let's hear it.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
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down for two pros and a cup of joe another
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When's when it's just the the self ball washing. That's
that's gotta stop.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
So that's sound self ball.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
I mean, twenty three games over five hundred. You would
love for that to be the case.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I'm not doing this money line garbage. I'm not. And
you guys are trying to get extra credit points for
money joints.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Money You got two points and you lost two points
between the Houston and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
See, I don't think you guys are docking yourself points
for moneyline misses.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
We are the promise dollars.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
That's passive aggressive because you took the money line that was.
Now you're trying now you're trying to turn some type
of conspiracy theory into us using the money.
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Speaker 1 (19:54):
Eagle spell backwards, Solu. Well, the Giants are looking for
a Uh, I'm gonna be looking for a new head coach.
Brian day Ball gone. Brian day Ball is out.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
He is no longer the head coach of the New
York Giants. Following the gag job on Sunday against the Bears,
Jackson Dart going out with the concussion. Uh, Russell Wilson
h stepping in and not able to get anything going.
And thus Brian day Ball is gone. The Giants make
the decision to fire him. Given a long enough leash, uh,
(20:36):
you know, three three plus years, but it just wasn't
getting any better, and I kind of just didn't looking
at the way it was already being framed. Hey, this
is the fourth time Jackson Dart's been, you know, evaluated
for concussion, the Blue medical tent incident. It just now
(20:57):
I wonder, Yeah, it's kind of wild, you know, is
he good for the safety of the player. Does he
have the player's best And it just felt like that's
the way that this was going to be framed. So
he's gone. But Joe.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Like the truth.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay, he's been evaluated four times for a concussion. Okay, yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But c was saying, is is it it's just the truth,
It doesn't have to be anyway?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Okay, but is it Brian da Ball's fault? The Jackson
Dart doesn't slide and and he plays the way that
he's playing. Is that really Brian dave Ball's fault? Because
they were even talking about during the game.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
If you're if you're having him run oftentimes, yeah, then
you're subjecting him to more of that. And if you
are coaching a player and the player keeps doing something
you've told him not to do, clearly the coach isn't
getting to the player. I mean, if Scott Shapiro kept
telling you to not do something and you kept doing it,
eventually it's his job either take you out.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Or go show. You're not going to be doing the show.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I mean, not that complicated.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
He got evaluated for a concussion four times? Did he
get four concussions?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Well, some people, depending on who you ask, would probably
say potentially, and I don't know that that's the angle
you want to take, Like that's a he'll to die
on most likely or not he'll to die on.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I would say this, like, do we.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Feel like the growth of Jackson Dart is best suited
to be in Brian Dables hands. I think that's what
this is now. The injury portion is part of it.
Obviously they're subjecting him to more injuries by the way
they run him, the way they're calling plays. Even if
Jackson Darts not protect himself getting down, he'll eventually learn that.
But you know, they also can help by not putting
(22:40):
him in that situation. But you look at like Russell
Wilson where he was a year ago where he is now,
dramatic difference, and a lot of people just say, well,
Russ is washed, He's not any good. Okay, Well look
at Daniel Jones with the Anneapolis Colts, a career year,
career year MVP candidate. Everyone said he was washed. Fans
that he was washed. So unfortunately, there's been a lot
(23:03):
of you know, damning progress or you know, in one
case Daniel Jones and how he's playing. In another case,
in seeing Jackson Dart kind of stay the same, like
not really evolving or developing as a young quarterback, kind
of just being the same. Fun to watch. You could
tell he's got talent, but subjecting himself being Harm's way
(23:25):
and Russell Wilson kind of in this like drop off position.
And the truth of the matter is he's won what
eleven of the last forty four games, and the Giants
ownership has been patient, like after that first year they
go to the playoff like okay, like they got some momentum,
but it's been an absolute collapse. There was reports he
was gonna get fired after their collapse in Denver. It
(23:48):
just it only felt like a matter of time with
the way he conducted himself, the emotions you see on
the sidelines. You mentioned the blue tent situation. I mean,
all that stuff. It's just a bad look. So this
wasn't surprising to me. I think what was surprising was,
you know, general manager Joe Shane will still stay. Not
only stay, he'll be a part of the decision making
(24:08):
process in the next head coach.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Super Bowl Champ defensive captain Antonio Pierce baby I put
his hat in the ring for a head coach he
got a raw deal in Las Vegas. Let's go with
Antonio Pierce. Everyone, Antonio Piers, Yes, Antonio Piers for next.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I'm starting the campaign. Uh. You know, it's a sad
moment in time.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
For an organization that has been a historical organization connected
to the National Football League. The class that the mayor
and Tisch family and grace that they have had as
ownership and as people through the years is very very
(25:00):
very well well documented that just it's just a well ran,
classy organization.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
It doesn't appear to be that right now.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Everybody says that the team sucks, and they've sucked for
a decade.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
It doesn't appear to be that right now.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And and that is something that they have to address
and address in a way where you can start to
get back to the stability of what they represented as
as an organization. And I don't know how they get there.
I'm sure they've been trying. I mean, I don't think
(25:39):
that they would ever in their wildest dreams thought that
the decisions that they were making, even though one played
out on camera where you heard, uh was it Steve Tish,
I believe or it was one or it was one
and maybe It was one of the mirrors. It was
one of the mirrors that that said, you know, I
can't I can't see us letting Saquon to another team.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
He's one of our most popular guys.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Doadae, I won't sleep at night if he goes to
Philly and lo and behold he goes to Philly.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
It was against his better judgment.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I almost believe that, you know, the ones who who
understand it as well as they do within the building
have to they have to make sure that the organization
is representing what it is that is right in common sense,
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common sense acceptable, like don't do something as stupid as
get rid of Sakuon Barkley. And if you can figure out,
you know how to use your players effectively, I mean,
where are you? How far off? What is it that
is wrong with the New York Giants that you can't
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get the production out of Saquon that you need to get,
which you did get pretty good production out of him,
but can't get more production out of Daniel Jones like
the coach are getting right now? What's so different in
New York that you can't get those results there and
he's getting them in in Indianapolis? I just think that
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there has to be really a come to Jesus moment
where they trust their guts on the things that they're doing,
and you bring in people that are going to see
it from the perspective of what they have always seen
historically of what the New York Giants represent. I don't
know that that's what it's been with the coaches that
(27:37):
they've brought in. I don't know, but I know. I mean,
I'm not saying this guys is my best friend. I'm
just saying one of my best friends. I'm just saying,
bring in a guy who understands it to the level
of where they went all the way to the Super
Bowl and be one of the greatest teams, if not
the greatest team to not win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
This is a great point. You know what, I'm throwing
the meat wagon's hat for this job.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Me wagging ye play linebacker. Yeah, there was a thing
or two about some toughness. Yeah yeah, me waggon in
there for the next Matt Giants. You throw your a
friend and I'll throw them one of my friends.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
And baby like linebackers coach though, you know, yeah, linebackers
coach me wagon.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
For LB's coach. Baby, He'll just repeat, He'll.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Repeat what Bob Yaka told him back when he was
at Eastern Michigan. You know, I want you to run
down there on kickoff like you're a black tar heroin.
That's what his coach told him.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
He's like, I want you to run down there on kickoff.
You're a black tar heroin.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
If you told, if you were to tell your coach,
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
He's what he said. He looked at me like, I
don't I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
What are having a black tar heroin? Used to be
a thing. I believe it's uh, you can get it
at the seven eleven out here if you look hard enough.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
That sounds like a person who was partaking in black
tar heroin.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
That's that's what sounds like.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Run down there.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
You don't just randomly say something like that, like he
he must have been running downfields on black heroin.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Like where does that come from? Like so the.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Obviously the two moves that people look at and go,
Daniel Jones is playing at a high level. What happened there?
Saquon Barkley, You know, damn near won the MVP last year.
Ran for two thousand yards. What happened there? I mean,
those are Joe Shane decisions, right, because I remember when
Daniel Jones got the extension from the Giants. Joe Shane
(29:38):
even said publicly, well, if I would have known, he
would have had that year. You know, if I could
have read into the future, I would have picked up
his fifth year option or something along those lines. And
it feels like he's keeping his job. But Brian Daball
is gone. Is this just to give him another opportunity
to see if you can hire a different coach and
have this going in a better direction, Because those the
(30:00):
two moves people look at and it feels like Joe
Shane's fingerprints are all over both of those, like he
was the guy who made the call on those.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I think it's a.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Great Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
I mean, look, was Joe Shane involved in this that
he save himself, of course, But at the same time,
I look at this and just say, I think they
had a good working relationship. I think what occurred, and
from what my intel has told me is, you know,
people in this this report that came out, people started.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Listening to the headset and that was maybe one of
the more damning.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Things that occurred during the time of Brian Davile's tenure
is they you know, heard how he was coaching, how
he was talking, the emotions tied to it, all, the
whole situation. They just they kind of felt like, Okay,
this isn't getting better. Yeah, Like it's just it's not
getting better. You know, this isn't.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Moving towards a point.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Can you give us some insight on like, like, cause
I hear what you're saying, But it could be a
couple different things, right. It could be detached, you know,
kind of dismissive. It could be aggressive, like you.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Mother aff.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
You see his emotions on the sidelines, Like, that's not
any different than how he is.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I just want to go to our listeners that you
know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Yeah, he's Look, he's a good, fiery coach. He wears
his emotions on his sleeve. And that as a head
coach is good at times and other times it's not.
As a leader, it's good at times, other times it's not.
And if you've got that the type of ownership that
looks at that and says that's.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Not really what we want. You know, we don't want.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
This guy who we feel like is you know, all
over the place at times with his emotions on the sidelines,
or it looks like he's given up completely. I mean,
even his emotions about you know, Russell Wilson and Jackson
Dart and just how the whole injury ten incident went down.
You know, that's just one player, one position. Could you
imagine how he applies that to the others. It's the
(31:57):
same thing. So I'm sure they're you know, maybe a
general feel because it's not like the more as Natitias
aren't close to the players and around that organization. They
probably have a good feel for the players on that team,
and some of them might feel like, hey man, we're
over this, like this this is we can't ride this
roller coaster every week, and this isn't getting any better.
(32:18):
Like I said, the reality is of their last what
forty games whatever it's been, or forty they've won eleven games,
like that just isn't good enough. Like they have been
patient over the last two seasons and then into this one. Yeah,
I mean, I just I look at it and say, like
it was this organization since the first year he got there,
going in the right direction. It wasn't and if you
(32:40):
want to put that on Joe Shane as well, that
there's maybe some truth of that, but the truth of
the matter is as well, like he found Skataboo where
he did, he drafted Jackson Dart where he did, as
much as you want to point to, like, hey, they
didn't get the Saquon Barkley thing, you know figured out, Okay,
that was a miss and that might be on Joe
Shane or lack of it, and tell whatever you want
(33:00):
to put on because it was very public, but they
also have some pieces that they have added. I mean,
their defense is pretty damn good. And let's not forget
too you know, there was you know, some butting heads
between him and with Martindale on the defensive side of
the ball too, Like that was a whole situation. So
it's not like this is the first, like you know,
(33:21):
this seasons the first emotions and things we've seen. There's
been some other things that have been going on over
the past couple of years, a few years now.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
So you imagine if you woke up and you had
snow on the ground and Bambi and Bamby's parents were
walking around and doing what they needed to do and
you were finding yourself jobless. Do you stay and enjoy
watching the deer, you know, have fun in the snow,
(33:51):
the new snows of the season. And now it's ushering
in the time of the holiday season, and you know,
you start playing the Christmas music? Can you play Mariah
Carey and the Christmas music right now? And this is
the situation that you find yourself at. What is next
for Brian day Balls. I mean, just like he'll stay,
(34:12):
He'll land somewhere.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Right, like, go be an offensive coordinator somewhere. But at
least you get to spend the holidays with your family.
Now now you're not have to, you know, walk around
coaching an awful team for a bad franchise.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
And you get paid your check.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
So I guess you go, you know, Christmas shopping and
stuff like that, and you know, you get to sit
there and watch Bambi run and play in the snow,
and the parents are sitting there like, just be safe,
be careful. Somebody might be trying to shoot at you.
But you know, let's go get some berries. Let's go,
let's go pick some things out, go get some Christmas
(34:45):
holiday season.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
She knows moose knuckle meatballs.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
They got knuckle.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Moose knuckle meatballs would be amazing for you, you know
what I mean. Like, now I'm gonna be at home, Like,
let's turn these Christmas carols on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Let's make sure that.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
We make some ore dirves for our friends and hang
out and smile and left and see things the way
that you would see them with no pressure on you.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (35:13):
And yes, by the way, if you are happening to
have a little bit more time on your hands, you
might want to put your chef hat on your apron
and all that good stuff. Jump in the kitchen, make
something and use original Louisiana hot sauce. It's the perfect
balance of peppers, vinegar and salt. You can use it
on that food that you make in that kitchen while
(35:34):
you got all that free time because your tail got fired.
But if you still got a job, that's okay too,
because you might be making your breakfast and you're gonna
want to put some of that hot sauce on that.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
It's great for tailgate food.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
It's bold, it's hand crafted, it's original Louisiana hot sauce.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
That's Louisiana hot.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
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Yours time to find out. Sometimes you can't get to
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Speaker 3 (36:44):
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Speaker 1 (36:46):
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer,
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Speaker 3 (36:52):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
What's up? Hi? What that music too?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
What did I do kidding, just kidding, I'm back. No,
I'm innocent.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I swear I'm over here. I'm chilling.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
That's fine, eBoy, come out. We caught they got us.
Speaker 8 (37:19):
Actually, I was just here and Jonas walked by and
just walked how I said my name? So of course,
like I'm not self conscious at all. Everything's fine over here,
you say, because I had to do updates on Sunday
night because Steve de Saga was at the Chargers game,
so I did. Oh, I'm so sorry. Anyway, So then
I guess the way I said my name was interesting
(37:39):
to Jonas. So then when you got I'm not sure, Jonas,
how did I say it?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I'm Brianna mia.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Oh god, well wait, hold on, you say it again?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
That was Jonas?
Speaker 4 (37:50):
What you said?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I say?
Speaker 8 (37:52):
I just said I'm Brianna Miau.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
What's wrong with that? Jonas?
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I didn't say anything was wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
This is the problems.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
So you behind the scenes over there, like being passive
aggressive debris dang.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
Yeah, where supposed to protect me from this?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
That's cold blooded tang. He's just walking around just bullying cats.
Speaker 8 (38:14):
It's because I'm from Orange County. I feel like I
feel like he had like a tone. You know, I
feel like he was kind of calling me out. That's
how I felt. It's kind of like the Thousand Oaks,
kind of like, you know, I'm better than you kind
of vibe.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
What do you call it? Cute? The hate eight? What
is it?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
The hato five five?
Speaker 5 (38:31):
I'm not call that for the record, Oh that is
all Jonas.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
Jonas Okay, sorry guys, Okay, So I didn't know Worries.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I mean we missed that though, that that wasn't in
case you missed it. Jonas is a mean dude, told
everybody he is he is, he.
Speaker 8 (38:46):
Really is, yes, And you know who is not mean?
Is the chemistry teacher?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Right?
Speaker 8 (38:51):
Is that what you call him for? Mike McDaniel, Dolphins
head coach. He kind of remained coy is a chemistry.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I mean I might run with that.
Speaker 8 (39:00):
Go ahead, Okay, So he remained kind of coy and
like just a little bit shy when he asked when
he was asked about whether or not he drove by
the Elbow Room, that bar where all the Bills fans
go after the Dolphins dominated, he said, this.
Speaker 9 (39:14):
That's why I like the good old days, you know,
the throwbacks of your where you could trust, you know,
the the internet and the images, because you know it
is pretty detail that you know, I do live.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
In that area.
Speaker 9 (39:27):
But I mean AI, right, I live in that area.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
AI is real. That's what I got for you. He got.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say a couple of words here.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Why is that a firewall fence?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Stay off the droves, man, I'm just stay substanced.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
He knows what, he knows what he knows, what the
deal is like whatever, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Having fun.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Look, the reality is, that's a famous spot for Lauderdale.
A lot of locals will love the fact that he
did that, and Dolphins fans will love the fact that
he did that because, for the most part, when the
Bills come down to play, when the Patriots come down
to play, when the Giants come down to play, the
Jets for that.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Matter, they take over.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
So for a lot of that local fan base there
in South Florida, they will love the fact that their
coach went by after a win, which, by the way,
they kind of drummed him after a solid win.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
He's on his way home, He's like, you know what,
let me just let me just pull around here.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
And make sure I chirp out at him a little bit,
let him know what happened today. Q.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You said that ain't the way to his creb. He
went out of his way to do it. That was
really him in the car.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
A little bit.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
He went, well, yeah, it wasn't what AI. That was
him over there. Just kind of making sure, staring him down,
let him know. You know, by the way, the Elbow Room,
like I've seen maybe we went there one time during
like a hurricane and we saw people like windsurfing right
outside while having a beer.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Like that place is awesome. It's wild.