March 22, 2023 • 38 mins
On today’s 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Lamar Jackson is reaching out to teams, looking for a way out of Baltimore. Packers President and CEO Mark Murphy continues to show his hand despite being “sworn to secrecy.” Plus, an update on Arch Manning and food at The Masters on “ICYMI.”
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more of a sourcing and report development when it comes
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to Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rodgers are competing
to see who can be the story this NFL offseason.
And so right now Lamar Jackson does have a slight
lead and that should hold up for about twenty minutes.
But Lamar Jackson, the latest is according to Pro Football Talk,
they say that they're sourcing and multiple sources that is
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that a representative for Lamar Jackson has contacted more than
one team in an effort to spark negotiations aimed at
a possible offer sheet. And the rep, by the way,
is not a certify Yeah, yeah, so he's not NFLPA certified.
And the speculation is that Lamar Jackson does not want
a fully guaranteed contract, but does one up to two
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hundred million dollars in guarantees. And there's another source on
this topic saying that the rep, again non certified nfl
PA rep is telling other teams that Lamar jack And
is ready to move on from the Baltimore Ravens. So
there's that whatever I mean, I mean, clearly the Baltimore
Ravens have made it clear that they're ready to move
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on from him as well, correct, I mean at his price? Yeah,
because otherwise he'd be under contract and none of this
would be a talking point. But as it stands, they
signed him to the non exclusive tag and basically called
his bluff and that's it. Like it. This strikes me
as desperate by Lamar Jackson if this is true, that
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he's got somebody who's not even certified having to pitch
other teams on signing him to an offer sheet, because
I think they realize Baltimore is holding the cards here,
because even if another team did sign him to an
offer sheet, Baltimore would just match it like that. That's
how this would go. I mean, depending on the price,
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if somebody offered him, you know, something lower than the
two hundred million dollars guarantee that apparently that's the sticking point.
If this report is true for the Baltimore Ravens, I
would assume that they would like to get the deal done.
I've never questioned whether or not they want Lamar Jackson
as their quarterback. It's just about whether they want him
at that fully guaranteed price. Because for two hundred and
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thirty plus million dollars guaranteed, if that's what he's seeking
and he wants more than Deshaun Watson. I just don't
think Baltimore is going to go in that direction. Okay,
But wouldn't logic say that if he gets signed to
anything less than what has created all of this conversation
to begin with, that there's still going to be discord
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with Lamar Jackson in Baltimore like that that scenario doesn't
it's not over right, Like it's it's not over if
if the franchise a non exclusive franchise tag leads to
Baltimore just being able to match an offer, and what
if that for is above and beyond what it is
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that they wanted to pay. So to me, they've already
played their hand and said we like, we're okay with
moving on with with Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson, if these
reports are true of his non certified representative UM talking
to other teams and and that being a point of
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of maybe small or big emphasis that he's okay with
moving on from Baltimore, then now you it's it's now
being exposed that what what Baltimore values Lamar Jackson that
and what Lamar Jackson values Lamar Jackson that are two
different places. So to me, I don't see it being
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a matter of Baltimore coming back and matching what what
an offer sheet would would present. I see this as
there's two. To me, there's two potential is us here one?
The first issue in my estimation is that if there
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is an offer, I think Baltimore looks at the value
of those two first round draft picks and and and
they measure out to do these two first round draft picks, which,
by the way, that would be this year, right, we
cleared that up yesterday. Up. Yeah, you get you get
to go after someone in the first round, another first
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round on top of what you already have, and then
you get another one for next year. I think they're
going to possibly value that more than dealing with the
headache that this has become with the with the Jackson situation.
That's the first problem. The second problem may arise outside
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of Baltimore and be a bigger issue moving forward, which
is if if if all of this is true reading
reading the article that you know we had in our
information grab, if the article is true and they're trying
to slow up or kind of cap the growth of
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the quarterback market, then what are you going to do
next year? What are these teams going to do when
these other quarterbacks start coming up and they want the
same exact thing and possibly more, what are you going
to do? Not exclusive? Come on, let's do this every year.
I'm into it. Not exclusive with Joe Burrow, Well, I
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think that Cincinnati is going to First of all, I
think they're probably already having the conversations and the discussions.
I think the difference is from my understanding, Well, Joe
Burrow has an agent, so I think that helps the situation,
justin Herbert has an agent. I think that helps the situation.
I think the problem here goes back to and it's
something that you said and you brought up last week.
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There's no cartilage in the negotiations, so it's bone on
bone Ravens versus Lamar Jackson, and there's nobody in between saying, Hey,
maybe you don't need to hear how they really feel
about you. Let me explain to you why this deal
makes sense, and you would know that you've you've done negotiations.
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I don't disagree. In fact, I think that could be
part of the problem, because wouldn't you say, like when
you were negotiating any contract in the NFL, if you
if you heard what they were saying in negotiations that
probably wouldn't sit right with you right when you did
go back and sign a deal, because what you're asking
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for initially and what they're asking for usually isn't where
anybody meets. That's why it's a negotiation. They want a
certain price, you want another price, and say you meet
in the middle, whatever that middle is. But you're not
hearing the intricate details of the conversations back and forth.
And I think that's where that's why this has become personal.
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I would say this, I don't know that there's intricate
details of how they feel other than positive about Lamar Jackson.
To be honest, I don't. I don't think there's any
type of derogatory energy towards it. I think Lamar Jackson
wants his number or wants it the contract that he
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feels is fair, which is he's trying. He probably got
people that are showing comps. That's what that's what agents do.
They look at comps and they move from from what
the comps of someone else who did another contract is.
Now there might be relational aspects of it that play
out with an agent and the organization. There may be
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you know, languages and different things that they can get
creative with if they've done done deals together, done big
deals in the league before. There are advantages to having
someone as your representation that is doing now. I don't
know that he doesn't have that, And I don't know
who this is non certified. Non certified doesn't mean that
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this is a bum who's reaching out and talking to people.
Could be Barack Obama for all we know. I don't
know who he's got doing doing his his negotiations. But
the bottom line, who else would who to brock beat
out for the job to be Lamar's non certled though,
actually don't stay away from that. Yeah, Donald Trump? Um,
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but anyway, uh like so anyway, if you think about
it from the standpoint of it's purely the numbers, Jonas.
But yet in the end, it's purely the bottom line,
and their bottom lines are are not not matching. And
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now it's getting to the point where the whole colluding
conversation continues to pop up, and I don't know what
the agenda is on the collusion conversations and and how
the media is continuing to take it and run with it.
I don't know if that's I don't know if that's
canceled culture um reporting news. I don't. I don't know
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if it's real news. But I do know that if
if that's true, that is very problematic. It is very
problematic if that becomes the narrative. And and it also
is is very conversational because I'm saying it's problematic because
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colluding is shouldn't it shouldn't be a part of what's
taking place and what's going on. But the conversational piece
of it, Jonas, is that this is a privately owned company.
It is privately owned, and I know there are rules,
and I know there are are you know, rules of engagement.
I even know that there are some some type of
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possibly laws that may may protect you know, you know,
players or whatever it may be from certain things that
take place internally. I don't. I don't know all you know.
I wish we had a q hare to go into
all of those details. I told you pet suspensions not here. Yeah,
I don't tell you. Yeah, I don't know. I don't
know about all of those details. But there is some
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things that can become problematic and very conversational because if
it comes out it's like, Okay, they don't want to
pay that much money to quarterbacks? Okay, but what you're
gonna do about it? But and the problem is, though,
like with collusion, we saw this with Kaepernick. That's why
there was a settlement involved whatever that number was, which
seemed pretty inflated, And then you hear reports afterwards, well
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it wasn't all the money that everyone thought it was,
but that was because they found that there was some
evidence that owners had discussed not wanting to sign Kaepernick.
So of course there is a legality to this that
would you know, okay, and what was and what were
the long term implications of them not bringing Kaepernick back?
Because last I check, Kaepernick still Kaepernick is the biggest
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Black football figure maybe since Jim Brown, based off of
what took place. But like my point is is that
from a legal standpoint, yeah, there their owners would get pushback,
would get in trouble, there'd be an investigation all of that.
The problem is there's been guaranteed contracts that have been
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handed out. One was Deshaun Watson, the other was Kirk Cousins.
So a lot of people that are trying to point
to a race factor in all this. Last I checked,
and again I don't have the greatest TV in the world.
I'm pretty sure that argument kind of dies when you
look at Deshaun Watson last I checked, and that's a
guy with a lot of baggage also that came along
with that deal. I just think that bault that when
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Steve Bashotti was the most vocal about Deshaun Watson getting
the contract, fact he did, and because he realized, oh God,
we're next up, that's close to home, and we're not
doing it. Yes, and we're not doing it. He told
y'all back then he we're not doing it. And I
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just I think that this just goes back to when
that happened. Not only did it affect that division from
a Cleveland Brown standpoint, but I think that affected the
division from Baltimore Ravens standpoint. And it's funny when you
consider the history of the Browns and the Ravens that
they find themselves at this meeting point again and kind of,
you know, in the intersection of some drama in the
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NFL like Lamar Jackson, Hey, do you realize Kaepernick is
still working out saying that he still has hopes and
dreams of playing in the NFL again. Lee Lee de
Lap and I saw him the Burbank Airport when we
got back from Super Bowl in Phoenix, saw m Bourbank Airport. Yeah,
I got news for you. He's not playing anytime soon.
He'd look a little heavy. They Yeah, it just didn't
didn't look like, you know, like when when he was
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in his he was good jacked. He just didn't look like,
you know, he was the biggest dude in the world.
Am I spinning yards here? The opposite little It looked puny. No,
he uh, he looked like he was just casually hanging
just hanging out, had a mask on, you know, had
you know, it was just kind of in a track suit,
just talking with some people over by the magazine stand.
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You know, I've seen him in Vegas too. You know,
he's just doing his thing, leave the lap and calling.
Enjoying life. He's enjoying the leverage. Hey. But listen, the
NFL is doing just fine having not hired Colin Kaepernick
back with all of that public outcry, with all of
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the racial racial uh leverage points that could have played
in one percent show good on that might be the
first time that that that was that was a legit
button push um with with all of those things going on.
Like you said, the show can ten used to go on.
They have not skipped a beat. They that business is good.
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So if if people are talking about all this outrage
that people had when they did not bring Colin Kaepernick back,
like they could have put that man on the team,
There's no doubt about it that Colin Kaepernick could have
made a team, even if he wasn't as good as
he thinks he is or as good as people thinks
he is. He could have been put on a team.
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Whatever they did not. They did not even put him
on eighteen that Raiders work out whatever. I don't know.
Remember remember Warren Sack came out said, yeah, I didn't
go well, did y'all? I mean, y'all saw the past
he throw in a Michigan game, like like that was
the crowning moment, Like here's the crowning moment for hardball,
giving the ball to Kaepernick to throw like you throw knuckleballs,
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Like come on, the point the point I'm making is
the point I'm making is if it were to come out,
they just do not want to pay that amount of money.
What are you going to do about it? Not a
damn thing? And that's what it ultimately comes down to
do they want to do it? Does the player want
to do it? If the team doesn't want to do it,
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then in the end, really whatever the player wants to
do is really kind of what does it matter? What
does it matter if you go beyond the realm of
what the employer is willing to do in the negotiation? Now,
and I think about this in life like this is
in real life. If you go to an employer, our
contract comes up in a year, we go to our
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employer and we tell our employer that this is unacceptable.
This is the number I need. And they said, no,
this is the number that we're going to give you.
This is the number we're at. And you're sticking to
it like you know a player would, and the company's
sticking to it like a company. Would you know who's
gonna win in the end, the company? Yeah, all right,
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That's it. That's the ad. So Mark Murphy, the president
of the Green Bay Packers, just man, he is. He's
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just phenomenal. I wish Mark, like I can't get enough
of it. It's every single offseason he says something and
then somebody has to like pull him aside afterwards and say, dude, really,
It's like I would love to see him walk into
an interrogation room. They wouldn't get into the room before
he spilled the beans. And not because he's like a rat,
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just because he has no idea. He just he's so
unaware to what he's actually saying. So if you remember
he had a couple of things to say there was it.
Two fridays ago. He was speaking with a local green
Bay affiliate, Fox eleven in Green Bay, and he had
this to say regarding the Aaron Rodgers situation with the Packers.
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Is there a scenario where Aaron is still the starting
quarterback of the Packers next season? Yeah, I mean, unless
if things don't work out the way we would want him. Yeah,
But you know, I think it's trying to find what
he wants and what we want and hopefully we can
find a win win situation. If he requests the trade,
will you honor it? Yeah, oh yeah we would. Yeah. Okay, Yeah,
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It's like all right, there it is. That's the update
on Rodgers. Now, what makes us even better is that
Mark Murphy was speaking yesterday at a tech summit at
lambeau Field and he had now this to say. Again,
that was a little over a week ago. That was
the setup, But he had this to say at the
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tech summit at lambau Field last night. I would love
to tell you everything you want to know about Aaron
Rodgers and the Jets, but I'm under secrecy not to
say that. So there it is, sworn secrecy. Forget everything
you heard a week plus ago. He's sworn to secrecy.
He cannot talk about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. I
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think it's hilarious. I can't get enough of money. I mean,
let's let's not read too far into it. I mean
he's clearly having a good time with that in that moment,
like I'm sworn to secrecy that I'm not supposed to
talk about. You know, do you think somebody they pulled
him aside after what he said two fridays ago and said, hey, Mark,
maybe don't say s Yeah, you know, what are you?
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What are you thinking? Like you know you did this
last offseason, you did at the off season before this.
Feel like it's a common theme here with you. And
you know we were calling it weekend at Murphy's two
offseasons ago because he would just he would air something
out on the weekend and the reporter asking the question
is looking around, going did I really just get all that? Look?
I got all that. I'm working the weekends, I got
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all that, and now it's going to make the rounds,
and it just it's funny to see how he's now
is taking a step back and no, listen, no, I
can't talk about any of that when a week plus
ago he was airing the entire situation out. I think
he's hilarious. I just think because they've put it all
out there, it's it's all out there. So it's almost
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like if he continues to talk about it, of course
there's some way, somehow that Aaron Rodgers will have a
way to brilliantly playoff of what he says. Ye are
you saying he keeps your seats Aaron Rodgers. I mean,
I'm just saying he's proven he keeps his receipts as
he does. You know, so I don't, I don't. I
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think at this point there's no reason for mur if you,
to have anything to say anyway. He is honoring the
fact that that Aaron Rodgers wants to trade. They just
want what they want out of it. He made it
very clear, we want to win, but we also want
Aaron Rodgers to win. So if they don't feel like
what what's on the table right now for them to
let Aaron Rodgers go is a win. Then I guess,
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I guess, if you're really listening to him at face value,
Aaron Rodgers could possibly be the quarterback of Green Bay
next year because they could, Like, here's here's what i
would do if I'm New York, if I'm the New
York Jets, I'm putting a time limit on on this,
this whole thing. We want to trade for him, we
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want to get it done, but we're not giving up
a first round draft pick. You have until tomorrow to
make to make a decision. Let us know what you're
gonna do. You're not gonna hold us hostage over over
a draft pick in the first round. You're not going
to do it. So if you don't want this trade
to happen, then we're moving on. And if I was
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the Jets, that's what I would do, And I would
pray to the football gods, Lord caseg. I would pray
to those football gods and hope that Green Bay has
enough sense to go ahead and figure out what the
best course of action is moving forward in terms of
completing the trade. Is the first round draft pick in
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the trade deal more important than you unloading that big
ass contract that Aaron Rodgers has. And is it worth
risking Aaron Rodgers being on that football team, the green
Bay Packers this upcoming season? Is it worth that? That's
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the question that has to be answered here. Are they
okay with bringing Aaron Rodgers back? Because again, while you know,
we heard Albert Brere say and even with you that
cooler heads will prevail, they'll get the deal done, Dadada,
I saw on and so forth. Well what if they
don't again, and I said that when this first started,
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because if they don't want to give up their draft
capital to get a player that may play one to
two more years, what is it worth? What is it
worth to Green Bay to play this game of chicken
with a suitor? Like we're clearly saying that that teams
aren't into giving out all this money or giving out
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draft draft stock, draft draft capital. So if Aaron Rodgers
is on your your roster right now, and you have
a suitor, because I didn't see anybody else jumping out there,
there wasn't a sweepstakes for Aaron Rodgers. Let's be clear
on that. There's not like three or four teams sitting
there like, yep, we'll take them too. We want to
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get and we want in on this. We'll give you
the first round draft pick. There's no other teams out
there like, yeah, we'll give you the first round draft
pick for Aaron Rodgers and take on that contract. It's
New York Jets or bust. So in reality, I don't
think that. I don't think that Green Bay. I know
we're saying that green Bay or is it green Bay?
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I know, I know some people have said green Bay
has all the leverage in this negotiation. I would disagree.
I don't know that it's necessarily leverage. I just don't
think the Jets green Bay's got a backup plan. Like
like people listening right now, and we're on in Wisconsin
right now, and people listening on you know, ten seventy
and Madison and all over the Great Stay of Wisconsin.
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You've at least got a backup plan. You know that.
All right, Well, if this doesn't work out, the plan
is still the same. We're going with Jordan Love. He's
going to be our quarterback next year. How are you
going with Jordan Love if he's still If Aaron Rodgers
still on your roster and you're paying them all that money,
They've already made the decision. They've already made the choice,
Like they're going with Jordan Love. And just answer me
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this question, how are they going with Jordan Love if
the deal falls through to get rid of Aaron Rodgers? Simple?
If then he's going to be a really expensive backup quarterback,
that well, that would be the dumbest thing ever in
the history of But I think the dumbest thing is
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the New York Jets who are sitting there with no
backup plan, no plan be in haggling over a first
round pick. Dude, give up a first and a two
next year, and the deal's done and everybody's happy, and
you move on like this, and the reports are out
there that this is going to go, that the Jets
plan on doing this all the way up until the draft, Okay,
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and then then what's gonna happen. You're gonna roll out
next year with Robert Sala and Joe Douglas, who are
who are coaching and GMing for their jobs next year
with the same disaster you had this past season. Like,
it feels like Green Bay's in a much better spot
in my mind than the New York Jets are if
this deal falls through. I don't disagree with them being
in a better position, but the value of the situation
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I don't think. I don't think that either one of them,
and especially Green Bay, I think it's as problematic. I
think it's it's just as problematic and tearing that team
apart if you do not unload Aaron Rodgers and the
longer they let this thing, you know, kind of carry on,
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I just think it's a bad look. I think it's
a bad look for for the players in that locker
room that need to know if they're definitively moving on
or not. I just think it's a bad look. It's
a bad look. So you're saying, haggling over a first
round draft pick for the Jets, why is Green Bay
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haggling over a first round draft pick for for the trade? Okay,
if you look at the compensation that Matt stafford when
he went to the rams As and the Lions and
that whole deal was done, there was two first round picks,
and some of the pushback on that was, well, that's
because you know they were picking up contracts from each
other and all that and work. Okay, so that's fine.
So instead of asking for two first round picks, a
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first and a second. I just I don't know that.
If you're the Jets and you've been trying to figure
out the quarterback position for decades, and you're in a
conference with all the talent that's in that conference, and
you're in a division with Josh Allen and with two
on and what Miami is doing and all like, you
have a real opportunity here. And it may just be
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for two years. But if you were to get some
some sort of an agreement from Rogers, this says, hey,
not only am I going there for one year, I'm
going to go there for at least two and then
we'll figure it out. To me, that's all I would
need to hear to make the deal happen, Like I
would make the deal happen today today if you were
to say that for a first and a second. And
to your point, this is not an ideal situation as
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it stands right now, for for either for either franchise.
It's just hilarious that we're still sitting here and no
deal is done and nobody can seem to figure out
who's gonna win out when it comes to the compensation. Well,
that's certainly the most interesting aspect of all this. And
Mark Murphy's sworn to secrecy. He can he's sworn this,
(30:25):
sworn the secrecy you are of a situation that everybody
already knows all the details of. Like, I mean, there's
not much more I think, but I think again, it
was a play he was playing. He was playful with it.
There's clearly there's probably some sarcasm there. I mean, I
just you know, it's just get the deal done. Man,
(30:49):
like tomato Tomato, they want a one, You don't want
to give a one, but you want to get rid
of they both. They want Aaron Rodgers, you don't want
Aaron Rodgers. Just just do it. Just do it and
be done with it. If I'm green Bay, just do
it and be done with it. Jonas, and also quickly
before we get to Eddie Garcia for the latest. I
just aj Hawk, I think, asked the most important question
(31:12):
when it came to Rogers and the situation when he
was on the Pat McAfee show and aj Hawk asked
him the question. He said, had the Green Bay Packers
called you up after you came out of the darkness
and you crawled out of that Gopher Hole in Oregon
and they said, hey, we want to have you back.
Would you have gone back? And Rogers kind of paused
(31:32):
and said, that's a good question because the feeling he
got from talking to the Packers before he went underground
was that they were ready to move on. So it
does feel like the Packers have been kind of pushing
towards this the entire time, and yet here we are
there's still no deal done. Because you got the Jets
who feel like they've got some leverage. It's it's entertaining,
(31:52):
it's fascinating, but again, reports are saying this could go
all the way up until the draft, and then personally,
from an entertainment standpoint, I hope no deal gets done.
I'm ready to talk about this all summer long. I
think it's great. I'm sworn secrecy, tired of it, tired
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When it rains, it pours, go wow, mis LeVar, Thank
you sir. In case you missed this. When it rains,
it pours. Um. We had talked about this arch Manning
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likely starting behind Quinn yours now has fallen to third
string behind Malik Murphy. So yeah, a little update there.
That's disappointing. That's disappointed. I smell a transfer portal. Steve
Sarkisian was positive about it, saying he's still having better practices. Uh,
he's progression and might have had his best practice just
(34:25):
the other day. Yeah. Oh wow. You know he's not
just born to secrecy. No, not, that's that's good. He's not.
I don't want to make that joke, because there was
a joke there. I had teat up. I'm not gonna
make that joke, gonna go ahead and put that back
in the holster. But um, I just you don't want
that smoke Sarkaesian. Well, I just think that because I
(34:48):
remember you might have been out. But Brady and I
were talking about it one day and it was like,
I wonder if part of the fact that he would
even be in the conversation with being the starter over
Quinn yours and all that, I wonder if part of
it was Sarkisian didn't want to lose him to the
transfer portal, knowing that it's arch manning and anybody in
(35:08):
the country would would welcome him with open arms if
they were trying to, you know, anyone would welcome him,
would open arms. Then why isn't e in a different
position where he's at? That's the thing, like it just
it feels like if he's third string, he must really
be pretty far behind these guys. Sez, Yeah, so not good.
What else we got, lee, Guys, it's always fun to
(35:31):
talk about the Master's menu. This year, they will not
be returning with one of their most famous items, that
being the peach ice sandwich due to quality control issues.
They will be replacing it with some sort of berry
ice cream, but it's still gonna be a nice price.
I'll tell you that. Yeah, he's the ice sandwich. Yeah,
(35:51):
I think I think the article might have been done
with Yeah, it's like an ice cream sandwich. I get
that part of it, but what's the sandwich part of it?
Like a cookie or to regular cookie, peach ice cream sandwich,
that's I mean, depending on what type of cookie it is.
That sounds amazing. Um, and it's no longer going to
be there. It's only two bucks bucks two, but like
(36:11):
some of the like I still can't get over some
of the prices on the menu, like the ice cream
sandwiches two bucks, domestic beers three bucks and and hundred
percent and imported beers four dollars. Really yes, oh wow.
You imagine going to the Masters and saying can I
get a Modello and they say sure, and you get
you give them a five and they give you change back.
(36:32):
I was like, if I'm a t J. Yeah, like
wis like, well there's some differences though, yeah, not as
much outdoor plumbing. Oh wow, he said, said LeVar. That
Instagram reel you sent me, what's your name, carlos Um, Yeah,
(36:54):
this is their menu is fantastic. You know what I
also see pictured here. You remember moon Poe. Yes, okay,
there's so many people forget about moonpies when it comes
to the hierarchy of like I'm a fat boy man.
Moon pies are. Yeah, they're tremendous. There was there was
a place in Charleston, South Carolina, over on Market Street.
(37:17):
When I was there, it was a moonpie store. It
was like half moonpie store, in the other half was
some other store, and they had every single flavor moonpie
you could possibly think of there. They were phenomenal. Some
of them were awful tasting, but I always preferred the
banana moonpie over the chocolate me personally. I'm sure there's
a drop in the system for that. I'm sure we
(37:37):
got a drop in the system there. I mean, I'm
not going to touch on that. Yeah, Like, what's I am?
I am up? All moonpies? Yeah? Yeah, the last time
you had a moonpie? It's been quite a while. Yeah, underrated,
sometime very underrated. What else? I was going to do
another story, but now I'm researching this. Scutty Scheffler's Master's
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in or is actually Cheeseburger's letters, Firecrackers shrimped or tea soup.
And you cant have a choice between ribby steak or
blackened redfish followed by a chocolate chip cookie. Sounds amazing.
That's a bit much. That sounds amazing to me. How
about just like the appetizer and then you know, you
figure it out after that. I I mean you have
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the choice to figure it out after that, and it's
like you're not going to get full on like the
dynamite shrimp or whatever they are before you started. How
long is it gonna be sitting at dinner for six hours?
I mean, that's how sophisticated people eat. Okay, I'm not sophisticated.
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there's there's people speculating what's going on to get punished?
Did he get no? Listen a time away? It's all right?
Why is that number one on everybody's list? Though? Well,
how does somebody got to be in trouble? I just
we adults, we just let's just lean into it. Let's
just make up a new story as to why he's
(01:02):
not here. I'll call it right now, peed violation. Oh wow,
I'll say it right now. He's on the gas that
he got tested and he pissed hot peed violation for
Brady Quinn. That's so basically like so like he's on
total awesome miss break is what it is. That's what
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more of a sourcing and report development when it comes
(02:04):
to Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rodgers are competing
to see who can be the story this NFL offseason.
And so right now Lamar Jackson does have a slight
lead and that should hold up for about twenty minutes.
But Lamar Jackson, the latest is according to Pro Football Talk,
they say that they're sourcing and multiple sources that is
(02:27):
that a representative for Lamar Jackson has contacted more than
one team in an effort to spark negotiations aimed at
a possible offer sheet. And the rep, by the way,
is not a certify Yeah, yeah, so he's not NFLPA certified.
And the speculation is that Lamar Jackson does not want
a fully guaranteed contract, but does one up to two
(02:49):
hundred million dollars in guarantees. And there's another source on
this topic saying that the rep, again non certified nfl
PA rep is telling other teams that Lamar jack And
is ready to move on from the Baltimore Ravens. So
there's that whatever I mean, I mean, clearly the Baltimore
Ravens have made it clear that they're ready to move
(03:10):
on from him as well, correct, I mean at his price? Yeah,
because otherwise he'd be under contract and none of this
would be a talking point. But as it stands, they
signed him to the non exclusive tag and basically called
his bluff and that's it. Like it. This strikes me
as desperate by Lamar Jackson if this is true, that
(03:33):
he's got somebody who's not even certified having to pitch
other teams on signing him to an offer sheet, because
I think they realize Baltimore is holding the cards here,
because even if another team did sign him to an
offer sheet, Baltimore would just match it like that. That's
how this would go. I mean, depending on the price,
(03:54):
if somebody offered him, you know, something lower than the
two hundred million dollars guarantee that apparently that's the sticking point.
If this report is true for the Baltimore Ravens, I
would assume that they would like to get the deal done.
I've never questioned whether or not they want Lamar Jackson
as their quarterback. It's just about whether they want him
at that fully guaranteed price. Because for two hundred and
(04:16):
thirty plus million dollars guaranteed, if that's what he's seeking
and he wants more than Deshaun Watson. I just don't
think Baltimore is going to go in that direction. Okay,
But wouldn't logic say that if he gets signed to
anything less than what has created all of this conversation
to begin with, that there's still going to be discord
(04:40):
with Lamar Jackson in Baltimore like that that scenario doesn't
it's not over right, Like it's it's not over if
if the franchise a non exclusive franchise tag leads to
Baltimore just being able to match an offer, and what
if that for is above and beyond what it is
(05:03):
that they wanted to pay. So to me, they've already
played their hand and said we like, we're okay with
moving on with with Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson, if these
reports are true of his non certified representative UM talking
to other teams and and that being a point of
(05:25):
of maybe small or big emphasis that he's okay with
moving on from Baltimore, then now you it's it's now
being exposed that what what Baltimore values Lamar Jackson that
and what Lamar Jackson values Lamar Jackson that are two
different places. So to me, I don't see it being
(05:48):
a matter of Baltimore coming back and matching what what
an offer sheet would would present. I see this as
there's two. To me, there's two potential is us here one?
The first issue in my estimation is that if there
(06:08):
is an offer, I think Baltimore looks at the value
of those two first round draft picks and and and
they measure out to do these two first round draft picks, which,
by the way, that would be this year, right, we
cleared that up yesterday. Up. Yeah, you get you get
to go after someone in the first round, another first
(06:31):
round on top of what you already have, and then
you get another one for next year. I think they're
going to possibly value that more than dealing with the
headache that this has become with the with the Jackson situation.
That's the first problem. The second problem may arise outside
(06:54):
of Baltimore and be a bigger issue moving forward, which
is if if if all of this is true reading
reading the article that you know we had in our
information grab, if the article is true and they're trying
to slow up or kind of cap the growth of
(07:17):
the quarterback market, then what are you going to do
next year? What are these teams going to do when
these other quarterbacks start coming up and they want the
same exact thing and possibly more, what are you going
to do? Not exclusive? Come on, let's do this every year.
I'm into it. Not exclusive with Joe Burrow, Well, I
(07:40):
think that Cincinnati is going to First of all, I
think they're probably already having the conversations and the discussions.
I think the difference is from my understanding, Well, Joe
Burrow has an agent, so I think that helps the situation,
justin Herbert has an agent. I think that helps the situation.
I think the problem here goes back to and it's
something that you said and you brought up last week.
(08:01):
There's no cartilage in the negotiations, so it's bone on
bone Ravens versus Lamar Jackson, and there's nobody in between saying, Hey,
maybe you don't need to hear how they really feel
about you. Let me explain to you why this deal
makes sense, and you would know that you've you've done negotiations.
(08:21):
I don't disagree. In fact, I think that could be
part of the problem, because wouldn't you say, like when
you were negotiating any contract in the NFL, if you
if you heard what they were saying in negotiations that
probably wouldn't sit right with you right when you did
go back and sign a deal, because what you're asking
(08:42):
for initially and what they're asking for usually isn't where
anybody meets. That's why it's a negotiation. They want a
certain price, you want another price, and say you meet
in the middle, whatever that middle is. But you're not
hearing the intricate details of the conversations back and forth.
And I think that's where that's why this has become personal.
(09:03):
I would say this, I don't know that there's intricate
details of how they feel other than positive about Lamar Jackson.
To be honest, I don't. I don't think there's any
type of derogatory energy towards it. I think Lamar Jackson
wants his number or wants it the contract that he
(09:24):
feels is fair, which is he's trying. He probably got
people that are showing comps. That's what that's what agents do.
They look at comps and they move from from what
the comps of someone else who did another contract is.
Now there might be relational aspects of it that play
out with an agent and the organization. There may be
(09:48):
you know, languages and different things that they can get
creative with if they've done done deals together, done big
deals in the league before. There are advantages to having
someone as your representation that is doing now. I don't
know that he doesn't have that, And I don't know
who this is non certified. Non certified doesn't mean that
(10:11):
this is a bum who's reaching out and talking to people.
Could be Barack Obama for all we know. I don't
know who he's got doing doing his his negotiations. But
the bottom line, who else would who to brock beat
out for the job to be Lamar's non certled though,
actually don't stay away from that. Yeah, Donald Trump? Um,
(10:32):
but anyway, uh like so anyway, if you think about
it from the standpoint of it's purely the numbers, Jonas.
But yet in the end, it's purely the bottom line,
and their bottom lines are are not not matching. And
(10:53):
now it's getting to the point where the whole colluding
conversation continues to pop up, and I don't know what
the agenda is on the collusion conversations and and how
the media is continuing to take it and run with it.
I don't know if that's I don't know if that's
canceled culture um reporting news. I don't. I don't know
(11:18):
if it's real news. But I do know that if
if that's true, that is very problematic. It is very
problematic if that becomes the narrative. And and it also
is is very conversational because I'm saying it's problematic because
(11:38):
colluding is shouldn't it shouldn't be a part of what's
taking place and what's going on. But the conversational piece
of it, Jonas, is that this is a privately owned company.
It is privately owned, and I know there are rules,
and I know there are are you know, rules of engagement.
I even know that there are some some type of
(12:01):
possibly laws that may may protect you know, you know,
players or whatever it may be from certain things that
take place internally. I don't. I don't know all you know.
I wish we had a q hare to go into
all of those details. I told you pet suspensions not here. Yeah,
I don't tell you. Yeah, I don't know. I don't
know about all of those details. But there is some
(12:24):
things that can become problematic and very conversational because if
it comes out it's like, Okay, they don't want to
pay that much money to quarterbacks? Okay, but what you're
gonna do about it? But and the problem is, though,
like with collusion, we saw this with Kaepernick. That's why
there was a settlement involved whatever that number was, which
seemed pretty inflated, And then you hear reports afterwards, well
(12:46):
it wasn't all the money that everyone thought it was,
but that was because they found that there was some
evidence that owners had discussed not wanting to sign Kaepernick.
So of course there is a legality to this that
would you know, okay, and what was and what were
the long term implications of them not bringing Kaepernick back?
Because last I check, Kaepernick still Kaepernick is the biggest
(13:10):
Black football figure maybe since Jim Brown, based off of
what took place. But like my point is is that
from a legal standpoint, yeah, there their owners would get pushback,
would get in trouble, there'd be an investigation all of that.
The problem is there's been guaranteed contracts that have been
(13:32):
handed out. One was Deshaun Watson, the other was Kirk Cousins.
So a lot of people that are trying to point
to a race factor in all this. Last I checked,
and again I don't have the greatest TV in the world.
I'm pretty sure that argument kind of dies when you
look at Deshaun Watson last I checked, and that's a
guy with a lot of baggage also that came along
with that deal. I just think that bault that when
(13:54):
Steve Bashotti was the most vocal about Deshaun Watson getting
the contract, fact he did, and because he realized, oh God,
we're next up, that's close to home, and we're not
doing it. Yes, and we're not doing it. He told
y'all back then he we're not doing it. And I
(14:14):
just I think that this just goes back to when
that happened. Not only did it affect that division from
a Cleveland Brown standpoint, but I think that affected the
division from Baltimore Ravens standpoint. And it's funny when you
consider the history of the Browns and the Ravens that
they find themselves at this meeting point again and kind of,
you know, in the intersection of some drama in the
(14:36):
NFL like Lamar Jackson, Hey, do you realize Kaepernick is
still working out saying that he still has hopes and
dreams of playing in the NFL again. Lee Lee de
Lap and I saw him the Burbank Airport when we
got back from Super Bowl in Phoenix, saw m Bourbank Airport. Yeah,
I got news for you. He's not playing anytime soon.
He'd look a little heavy. They Yeah, it just didn't
didn't look like, you know, like when when he was
(14:58):
in his he was good jacked. He just didn't look like,
you know, he was the biggest dude in the world.
Am I spinning yards here? The opposite little It looked puny. No,
he uh, he looked like he was just casually hanging
just hanging out, had a mask on, you know, had
you know, it was just kind of in a track suit,
just talking with some people over by the magazine stand.
(15:20):
You know, I've seen him in Vegas too. You know,
he's just doing his thing, leave the lap and calling.
Enjoying life. He's enjoying the leverage. Hey. But listen, the
NFL is doing just fine having not hired Colin Kaepernick
back with all of that public outcry, with all of
(15:41):
the racial racial uh leverage points that could have played
in one percent show good on that might be the
first time that that that was that was a legit
button push um with with all of those things going on.
Like you said, the show can ten used to go on.
They have not skipped a beat. They that business is good.
(16:06):
So if if people are talking about all this outrage
that people had when they did not bring Colin Kaepernick back,
like they could have put that man on the team,
There's no doubt about it that Colin Kaepernick could have
made a team, even if he wasn't as good as
he thinks he is or as good as people thinks
he is. He could have been put on a team.
(16:29):
Whatever they did not. They did not even put him
on eighteen that Raiders work out whatever. I don't know.
Remember remember Warren Sack came out said, yeah, I didn't
go well, did y'all? I mean, y'all saw the past
he throw in a Michigan game, like like that was
the crowning moment, Like here's the crowning moment for hardball,
giving the ball to Kaepernick to throw like you throw knuckleballs,
(16:53):
Like come on, the point the point I'm making is
the point I'm making is if it were to come out,
they just do not want to pay that amount of money.
What are you going to do about it? Not a
damn thing? And that's what it ultimately comes down to
do they want to do it? Does the player want
to do it? If the team doesn't want to do it,
(17:14):
then in the end, really whatever the player wants to
do is really kind of what does it matter? What
does it matter if you go beyond the realm of
what the employer is willing to do in the negotiation? Now,
and I think about this in life like this is
in real life. If you go to an employer, our
contract comes up in a year, we go to our
(17:36):
employer and we tell our employer that this is unacceptable.
This is the number I need. And they said, no,
this is the number that we're going to give you.
This is the number we're at. And you're sticking to
it like you know a player would, and the company's
sticking to it like a company. Would you know who's
gonna win in the end, the company? Yeah, all right,
there you go. You take us to break it is
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of the Green Bay Packers, just man, he is. He's
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just phenomenal. I wish Mark, like I can't get enough
of it. It's every single offseason he says something and
then somebody has to like pull him aside afterwards and say, dude, really,
It's like I would love to see him walk into
an interrogation room. They wouldn't get into the room before
he spilled the beans. And not because he's like a rat,
(20:08):
just because he has no idea. He just he's so
unaware to what he's actually saying. So if you remember
he had a couple of things to say there was it.
Two fridays ago. He was speaking with a local green
Bay affiliate, Fox eleven in Green Bay, and he had
this to say regarding the Aaron Rodgers situation with the Packers.
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Is there a scenario where Aaron is still the starting
quarterback of the Packers next season? Yeah, I mean, unless
if things don't work out the way we would want him. Yeah,
But you know, I think it's trying to find what
he wants and what we want and hopefully we can
find a win win situation. If he requests the trade,
will you honor it? Yeah, oh yeah we would. Yeah. Okay, Yeah,
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It's like all right, there it is. That's the update
on Rodgers. Now, what makes us even better is that
Mark Murphy was speaking yesterday at a tech summit at
lambeau Field and he had now this to say. Again,
that was a little over a week ago. That was
the setup, But he had this to say at the
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tech summit at lambau Field last night. I would love
to tell you everything you want to know about Aaron
Rodgers and the Jets, but I'm under secrecy not to
say that. So there it is, sworn secrecy. Forget everything
you heard a week plus ago. He's sworn to secrecy.
He cannot talk about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. I
(21:33):
think it's hilarious. I can't get enough of money. I mean,
let's let's not read too far into it. I mean
he's clearly having a good time with that in that moment,
like I'm sworn to secrecy that I'm not supposed to
talk about. You know, do you think somebody they pulled
him aside after what he said two fridays ago and said, hey, Mark,
maybe don't say s Yeah, you know, what are you?
(21:55):
What are you thinking? Like you know you did this
last offseason, you did at the off season before this.
Feel like it's a common theme here with you. And
you know we were calling it weekend at Murphy's two
offseasons ago because he would just he would air something
out on the weekend and the reporter asking the question
is looking around, going did I really just get all that? Look?
I got all that. I'm working the weekends, I got
(22:16):
all that, and now it's going to make the rounds,
and it just it's funny to see how he's now
is taking a step back and no, listen, no, I
can't talk about any of that when a week plus
ago he was airing the entire situation out. I think
he's hilarious. I just think because they've put it all
out there, it's it's all out there. So it's almost
(22:37):
like if he continues to talk about it, of course
there's some way, somehow that Aaron Rodgers will have a
way to brilliantly playoff of what he says. Ye are
you saying he keeps your seats Aaron Rodgers. I mean,
I'm just saying he's proven he keeps his receipts as
he does. You know, so I don't, I don't. I
(22:57):
think at this point there's no reason for mur if you,
to have anything to say anyway. He is honoring the
fact that that Aaron Rodgers wants to trade. They just
want what they want out of it. He made it
very clear, we want to win, but we also want
Aaron Rodgers to win. So if they don't feel like
what what's on the table right now for them to
let Aaron Rodgers go is a win. Then I guess,
(23:21):
I guess, if you're really listening to him at face value,
Aaron Rodgers could possibly be the quarterback of Green Bay
next year because they could, Like, here's here's what i
would do if I'm New York, if I'm the New
York Jets, I'm putting a time limit on on this,
this whole thing. We want to trade for him, we
(23:43):
want to get it done, but we're not giving up
a first round draft pick. You have until tomorrow to
make to make a decision. Let us know what you're
gonna do. You're not gonna hold us hostage over over
a draft pick in the first round. You're not going
to do it. So if you don't want this trade
to happen, then we're moving on. And if I was
(24:06):
the Jets, that's what I would do, And I would
pray to the football gods, Lord caseg. I would pray
to those football gods and hope that Green Bay has
enough sense to go ahead and figure out what the
best course of action is moving forward in terms of
completing the trade. Is the first round draft pick in
(24:29):
the trade deal more important than you unloading that big
ass contract that Aaron Rodgers has. And is it worth
risking Aaron Rodgers being on that football team, the green
Bay Packers this upcoming season? Is it worth that? That's
(24:49):
the question that has to be answered here. Are they
okay with bringing Aaron Rodgers back? Because again, while you know,
we heard Albert Brere say and even with you that
cooler heads will prevail, they'll get the deal done, Dadada,
I saw on and so forth. Well what if they
don't again, and I said that when this first started,
(25:14):
because if they don't want to give up their draft
capital to get a player that may play one to
two more years, what is it worth? What is it
worth to Green Bay to play this game of chicken
with a suitor? Like we're clearly saying that that teams
aren't into giving out all this money or giving out
(25:38):
draft draft stock, draft draft capital. So if Aaron Rodgers
is on your your roster right now, and you have
a suitor, because I didn't see anybody else jumping out there,
there wasn't a sweepstakes for Aaron Rodgers. Let's be clear
on that. There's not like three or four teams sitting
there like, yep, we'll take them too. We want to
(25:59):
get and we want in on this. We'll give you
the first round draft pick. There's no other teams out
there like, yeah, we'll give you the first round draft
pick for Aaron Rodgers and take on that contract. It's
New York Jets or bust. So in reality, I don't
think that. I don't think that Green Bay. I know
we're saying that green Bay or is it green Bay?
(26:22):
I know, I know some people have said green Bay
has all the leverage in this negotiation. I would disagree.
I don't know that it's necessarily leverage. I just don't
think the Jets green Bay's got a backup plan. Like
like people listening right now, and we're on in Wisconsin
right now, and people listening on you know, ten seventy
and Madison and all over the Great Stay of Wisconsin.
(26:43):
You've at least got a backup plan. You know that.
All right, Well, if this doesn't work out, the plan
is still the same. We're going with Jordan Love. He's
going to be our quarterback next year. How are you
going with Jordan Love if he's still If Aaron Rodgers
still on your roster and you're paying them all that money,
They've already made the decision. They've already made the choice,
Like they're going with Jordan Love. And just answer me
(27:05):
this question, how are they going with Jordan Love if
the deal falls through to get rid of Aaron Rodgers? Simple?
If then he's going to be a really expensive backup quarterback,
that well, that would be the dumbest thing ever in
the history of But I think the dumbest thing is
(27:26):
the New York Jets who are sitting there with no
backup plan, no plan be in haggling over a first
round pick. Dude, give up a first and a two
next year, and the deal's done and everybody's happy, and
you move on like this, and the reports are out
there that this is going to go, that the Jets
plan on doing this all the way up until the draft, Okay,
(27:46):
and then then what's gonna happen. You're gonna roll out
next year with Robert Sala and Joe Douglas, who are
who are coaching and GMing for their jobs next year
with the same disaster you had this past season. Like,
it feels like Green Bay's in a much better spot
in my mind than the New York Jets are if
this deal falls through. I don't disagree with them being
in a better position, but the value of the situation
(28:12):
I don't think. I don't think that either one of them,
and especially Green Bay, I think it's as problematic. I
think it's it's just as problematic and tearing that team
apart if you do not unload Aaron Rodgers and the
longer they let this thing, you know, kind of carry on,
(28:36):
I just think it's a bad look. I think it's
a bad look for for the players in that locker
room that need to know if they're definitively moving on
or not. I just think it's a bad look. It's
a bad look. So you're saying, haggling over a first
round draft pick for the Jets, why is Green Bay
(28:57):
haggling over a first round draft pick for for the trade? Okay,
if you look at the compensation that Matt stafford when
he went to the rams As and the Lions and
that whole deal was done, there was two first round picks,
and some of the pushback on that was, well, that's
because you know they were picking up contracts from each
other and all that and work. Okay, so that's fine.
So instead of asking for two first round picks, a
(29:18):
first and a second. I just I don't know that.
If you're the Jets and you've been trying to figure
out the quarterback position for decades, and you're in a
conference with all the talent that's in that conference, and
you're in a division with Josh Allen and with two
on and what Miami is doing and all like, you
have a real opportunity here. And it may just be
(29:40):
for two years. But if you were to get some
some sort of an agreement from Rogers, this says, hey,
not only am I going there for one year, I'm
going to go there for at least two and then
we'll figure it out. To me, that's all I would
need to hear to make the deal happen, Like I
would make the deal happen today today if you were
to say that for a first and a second. And
to your point, this is not an ideal situation as
(30:02):
it stands right now, for for either for either franchise.
It's just hilarious that we're still sitting here and no
deal is done and nobody can seem to figure out
who's gonna win out when it comes to the compensation. Well,
that's certainly the most interesting aspect of all this. And
Mark Murphy's sworn to secrecy. He can he's sworn this,
(30:25):
sworn the secrecy you are of a situation that everybody
already knows all the details of. Like, I mean, there's
not much more I think, but I think again, it
was a play he was playing. He was playful with it.
There's clearly there's probably some sarcasm there. I mean, I
just you know, it's just get the deal done. Man,
(30:49):
like tomato Tomato, they want a one, You don't want
to give a one, but you want to get rid
of they both. They want Aaron Rodgers, you don't want
Aaron Rodgers. Just just do it. Just do it and
be done with it. If I'm green Bay, just do
it and be done with it. Jonas, and also quickly
before we get to Eddie Garcia for the latest. I
just aj Hawk, I think, asked the most important question
(31:12):
when it came to Rogers and the situation when he
was on the Pat McAfee show and aj Hawk asked
him the question. He said, had the Green Bay Packers
called you up after you came out of the darkness
and you crawled out of that Gopher Hole in Oregon
and they said, hey, we want to have you back.
Would you have gone back? And Rogers kind of paused
(31:32):
and said, that's a good question because the feeling he
got from talking to the Packers before he went underground
was that they were ready to move on. So it
does feel like the Packers have been kind of pushing
towards this the entire time, and yet here we are
there's still no deal done. Because you got the Jets
who feel like they've got some leverage. It's it's entertaining,
(31:52):
it's fascinating, but again, reports are saying this could go
all the way up until the draft, and then personally,
from an entertainment standpoint, I hope no deal gets done.
I'm ready to talk about this all summer long. I
think it's great. I'm sworn secrecy, tired of it, tired
of it. It's Two Pros and a cup of Joe
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When it rains, it pours, go wow, mis LeVar, Thank
you sir. In case you missed this. When it rains,
it pours. Um. We had talked about this arch Manning
(34:05):
likely starting behind Quinn yours now has fallen to third
string behind Malik Murphy. So yeah, a little update there.
That's disappointing. That's disappointed. I smell a transfer portal. Steve
Sarkisian was positive about it, saying he's still having better practices. Uh,
he's progression and might have had his best practice just
(34:25):
the other day. Yeah. Oh wow. You know he's not
just born to secrecy. No, not, that's that's good. He's not.
I don't want to make that joke, because there was
a joke there. I had teat up. I'm not gonna
make that joke, gonna go ahead and put that back
in the holster. But um, I just you don't want
that smoke Sarkaesian. Well, I just think that because I
(34:48):
remember you might have been out. But Brady and I
were talking about it one day and it was like,
I wonder if part of the fact that he would
even be in the conversation with being the starter over
Quinn yours and all that, I wonder if part of
it was Sarkisian didn't want to lose him to the
transfer portal, knowing that it's arch manning and anybody in
(35:08):
the country would would welcome him with open arms if
they were trying to, you know, anyone would welcome him,
would open arms. Then why isn't e in a different
position where he's at? That's the thing, like it just
it feels like if he's third string, he must really
be pretty far behind these guys. Sez, Yeah, so not good.
What else we got, lee, Guys, it's always fun to
(35:31):
talk about the Master's menu. This year, they will not
be returning with one of their most famous items, that
being the peach ice sandwich due to quality control issues.
They will be replacing it with some sort of berry
ice cream, but it's still gonna be a nice price.
I'll tell you that. Yeah, he's the ice sandwich. Yeah,
(35:51):
I think I think the article might have been done
with Yeah, it's like an ice cream sandwich. I get
that part of it, but what's the sandwich part of it?
Like a cookie or to regular cookie, peach ice cream sandwich,
that's I mean, depending on what type of cookie it is.
That sounds amazing. Um, and it's no longer going to
be there. It's only two bucks bucks two, but like
(36:11):
some of the like I still can't get over some
of the prices on the menu, like the ice cream
sandwiches two bucks, domestic beers three bucks and and hundred
percent and imported beers four dollars. Really yes, oh wow.
You imagine going to the Masters and saying can I
get a Modello and they say sure, and you get
you give them a five and they give you change back.
(36:32):
I was like, if I'm a t J. Yeah, like
wis like, well there's some differences though, yeah, not as
much outdoor plumbing. Oh wow, he said, said LeVar. That
Instagram reel you sent me, what's your name, carlos Um, Yeah,
(36:54):
this is their menu is fantastic. You know what I
also see pictured here. You remember moon Poe. Yes, okay,
there's so many people forget about moonpies when it comes
to the hierarchy of like I'm a fat boy man.
Moon pies are. Yeah, they're tremendous. There was there was
a place in Charleston, South Carolina, over on Market Street.
(37:17):
When I was there, it was a moonpie store. It
was like half moonpie store, in the other half was
some other store, and they had every single flavor moonpie
you could possibly think of there. They were phenomenal. Some
of them were awful tasting, but I always preferred the
banana moonpie over the chocolate me personally. I'm sure there's
a drop in the system for that. I'm sure we
(37:37):
got a drop in the system there. I mean, I'm
not going to touch on that. Yeah, Like, what's I am?
I am up? All moonpies? Yeah? Yeah, the last time
you had a moonpie? It's been quite a while. Yeah, underrated,
sometime very underrated. What else? I was going to do
another story, but now I'm researching this. Scutty Scheffler's Master's
(38:00):
in or is actually Cheeseburger's letters, Firecrackers shrimped or tea soup.
And you cant have a choice between ribby steak or
blackened redfish followed by a chocolate chip cookie. Sounds amazing.
That's a bit much. That sounds amazing to me. How
about just like the appetizer and then you know, you
figure it out after that. I I mean you have
(38:20):
the choice to figure it out after that, and it's
like you're not going to get full on like the
dynamite shrimp or whatever they are before you started. How
long is it gonna be sitting at dinner for six hours?
I mean, that's how sophisticated people eat. Okay, I'm not sophisticated.
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