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August 11, 2026 41 mins

In Hour 2 of the show, Brady Quinn & LaVar Arrington go in depth on the new NFL coaching challenge ruling which allows sideline staff to use the challenge flag instead of the Head Coach. Plus, the guys discuss Derek Carr signing on at UCLA as a special assistant to Head Coach Bob Chesney, we find out what the hell we are watching, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. I love Mark. How
you've kept this thing pretty funky. Huh. Just keep with
the Players Club.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, I'm Brady Quinn, He's LeVar Aaronson.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
We're two pros. That's right. No Jonas this week at
least the rest of the week, but we're bringing you.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Tuesday p D vihlation. You know, we had to put
him on nice. Too many fines, you know what I mean.
People are getting upset about me saying ten dollars, but
Jonas is just a it's just a crew. Too many fines,
so we had to sit him down.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's like just so just so our listeners know, Jonas
is approaching about two hundred dollars in fines, which is
well above anyone else in the show besides Patty, which
Patty did take a couple on the chin of late,
but that is over three thousand Mexican pesos. As we
want to make sure we do the currency exchange right there.

(01:30):
But yes, Jonas has put himself in quite the whole.
He will he might be buying an entire dinner himself when.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
It comes to Super Bowl this year in LA, speaking
of the Super Bowl in LA, speaking of the NFL, the.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
NFL Coaches Challenge, They've added a little wrinkle into this LeVar,
and I'm kind of I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Wondering what you think the origin of this is, but
also just what you think about it.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
So, the NFL is changing up it's replay challenges in
the sense that it will allow head coaches now designate
a sidelines staffer a member to initiate a replay challenge
by throwing in the red flag.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
But the officials must know.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Which member, who it is uh and who or who's
been designated for this task before the start of the game.
So I'm thinking to myself, is this purely because we've
had so many coaches who've had an issue just grabbing
the red flag out of their sock or out of
their sweatshirt or jacket or whatever it is, or do
you think this always.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Should have been the case that it's maybe too much for.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
A head coach that's calling plays to manage that wherever
the hell that little red beanie bag you know thing is.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
That's exactly what it is, right, and let's take it
a step further. I would I would most certainly have
them on hit set where there's spotters watching, Like how
you know when we're into booth, you do the gang,
you got spotter watching for the small details of what happens.
I might have more than one, and if something goes wrong,

(03:00):
that guy needs to grab that red flag and he
needs to go the people that are making the decision
they should have like you know, like how we got
all these AI agents being made these days. Now they
need to have an AI agent, you know, maybe like
I don't know, four or five agents that are taking
the footage real time because the feed can come through

(03:22):
real time at the game. Here's you throw red flag, boom,
send it down to that.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
I took away too complicated.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
But the point I'm making is, yes, I think it's
a good move because the head coach should be focusing
in on whatever their duties, you know what they are.
Some coaches are calling plays, some coaches, I don't know
what some coaches are doing on the sideline. I'm not sure,
but I will say, can they have the best vantage

(03:54):
point of a replay situation, in the situation or in
the position that in Maybe sometimes maybe sometimes they'll see
it and and they go But for the most part,
don't they throw the red flag after people run up
to them and tell them to throw throw the red
flag or they hear it and they're like, oh, I'll
throw the flag, right, So why not just designate somebody.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Else to do that and then go from there.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I mean, obviously the head coach is going to hear
it in his headphones that they're going to challenge it anyway,
so it's not like he's going to be in the
dark about it. So I don't I don't find I
don't have any issues what it will you think.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I don't have any issues with it.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I'm wondering why it always wasn't this way, you know,
why they wanted to just purely put this on the
head coach if they feel like this is something that
they didn't want, you know, something, to do it by
accident or the head coach to I mean, because here's
what I could foresee happening, is it gets thrown out
there because maybe it's communicated from the booth.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Hey, you should you should review this.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
We should, you know, make sure we challenge this, and
and then you end up having a situation where the
head coach I told him not to throw it at
that dropped out or if you know you it makes
some sort of excuse because you come to find out
maybe you should have thrown the flag in the first place.
I just I feel like that sort of scenario could
present itself a little bit.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I'm not against it. I think I think it's to
be funny, like, what are.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
The qualifications for that guy being the guy to throw
the red fly red?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Little like this would be like a perfect Connor Stallions
type of jobs had, right, Like you're a professional at
being able to look across and see things and collect
the data on it and accurate enough where your team
could win a national title. So I think the criteria
is somebody who has a really really keen eye to

(05:41):
where the red flag situations may take place, like from
pre snap to the snapping of the ball to Okay,
this is the play, it's a run play. I'm going
to be more focused in. I'm first of all, I'm
gonna be focused in on the line of scrimmage period,
all right. But secondly, if I know it's a pass,
then from the time like now, I got to figure out,

(06:02):
am I watching for holds or whatever it may be
from the defensive line or the offensive line? Am I
looking for pass interference? Both offensively and defensively. That's why
to me, I feel like you got to have a team, right.
You gotta have guys like not a fall guy, a
spotter guy. You gotta have guys that can look at

(06:23):
multiple things. I would have one group or one guy
designated to watching the receivers. I had one guy designated
to watching the box and watching what's going on inside
of there. And if something were to happen egregious like
a receiver gets thrown down to the ground, they didn't
make the call red flag it, you know what I mean,

(06:43):
Like one of those type things. But I don't know
that this is a singular person that could actually do it.
I almost feel like you have to have a team
of spotters that are connected to this one person that
has to It's almost like he doesn't even have the
autonomy to throw the red flag. You're just basically saying
he's the designated person that's going to throw the flag

(07:06):
when they say to throw the flag.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, it's like a does dated hitter, Like you know,
he he's being told when to go in and hits.
He's not like just stepping up there and walking out
there and doing it. I do wonder what the qualifications are.
I like, do you need somebody who actually can sling
it out there pretty good or throw it at the official.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
And to get his attention.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
They gotta have no fear. They gotta have zero fear,
you know what I mean. They got to be a
fearless person. They should most likely be a former quarterback
so that the form they spin it, like start spinning
that red flag out there, you know what I mean,
and get style points for it. Like we look at
like the what is it called the Banana League, like
the Banana Hannahs or what what's.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
It called Savannah bananas?

Speaker 4 (07:46):
The Savannah bananas.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
You said, banana hammers.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
The banana Hannah's.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I think you're watching some other league, but I don't
know what that is disease, I don't know, but I
think they should be dressed up in a very colorful
Neon color type outfit so that you can see them.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
They're very easily.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
It sounds like thunder down under baseball.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I think there should be like a backflip or a
cartwheel of some sort of summersault, something that gets the
attention of everybody, and then they throw that rear flag.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
And let it, let it, let.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
It real quick.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
On that note, I want Patty and Mark to come
in for a second here because I do feel like
it should be recognized we have been on radio for
over an hour. Jonas nor Loraina are here today and
there hasn't been one piece of explicit content in our
radio show. So if there's any blame to go around,
it should go on Loraina on Jonas.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Yeah, is that fair?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Pat and Mark honestly not valid? I think so there
you go.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Well up at this time to hear anything. So I'm
not sure what other content of getting This is the
time when I run this show, but.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Mark, this is the time for that type of content,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
It's for the large just venture there by accident but
you know, if it was Jonas would have jerked the
we on to a ditch, I'd still be.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Talking about God.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
I didn't say hammer. I said banana Hannah.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
I always think that the East Coast people are up,
so it's not really any kind of safetime because they're
just getting up. So if you're going to break their
ears by hearing something, that's you know, that's on everybody.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Okay, Okay, all I'll say is I said banana Hannah.
I was trying to have to rhyme banana with something else,
that's all. I almost said hammock to your point, but
I did not. I did not venture to banana hammock.
I did banana Hannah.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Okay, not either way.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
For the record, we've been able to stand the straight
and narrow and part because neither Loreno or Jonas is here.
I want you to click this off, Patty, and you
can sentence it both of them if you'd like. But
that is where the explicit rating comes from. If you
listen to our I'm taking no part in this whatsoever.
And for the record, for the record, the influence is real.

(10:09):
You should hear it. I'm off here to put a
cap on the conversation regards to this NFL coach challenge.
I do feel like this does open it up for
a little bit of controversy.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I mean, if something happens to that guy, that designated guy,
there's any miscommunication that, you know, the flag falls out,
the officials like, ah, did you throw it?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
He's like yeah, no maybe.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Like I just I feel like, if it's not the
head coach, you know, is this person going to be
subject to interviews after the game, you know, if something
controversial does have I don't know, but I'm not sure
why they felt this was needed outside of coaches being like, dude,
I don't want to have to find this thing wherever
I put it, you know, whether it's on my hip
or in a pocket or you know, around my ankle,

(10:53):
like some of the coaches would use.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
No, I just give it to someone else. Let someone else.
Do someone have to deal with this?

Speaker 3 (10:58):
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(11:22):
next thing I would mention that came up in the
news was Seattle has now opened the door for a
potentially putting in grass. There a luminfield. For those of
you that are Settle Seahawks fans, it's turf. It's actually
a good turf field. It's an incredible stadium. However, following
the World Cup, there was a lot of push from
NFL players who looked at their NFL owners and said,

(11:44):
wait a second, you're willing to sell out these stadiums
and go ahead and throw in grass because that's what
FIFA wants, but you won't do it for us. So
it looks like maybe the new Seattle Seahawks owner, vanad Kosla,
he's left the door open and for permanently converting Liomenfield
from artificial turf to natural grass, which would be awesome

(12:05):
for the dudes in Seattle.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
And I'm just I'm kind of curious do you care
about this, like at this point do you listen to
the players complain about it and just say this is
something you should have negotiated the CBA or do you
or is this is this a real thing where you're
like happy to see progress?

Speaker 4 (12:22):
I think it's progress.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
I think it's I mean the fact that an owner
would come out and just say it out out loud.
I think it's progress because you you you got to
acknowledge it before you can come up with, you know,
a plan or a solution, and it just takes one.
Now it's it's interesting because it's the new owner, right,
so you're coming into a league where.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
It's a very very established and very.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Uh, family driven, if at least historically speaking, it's getting
a little bit away from that now, but it's been
a very very uh and I don't want to say
in session was what am I going for? When the
whole family is is part part of something? What's the
word for that?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I mean, I mean there's nepotism.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
But nepotism there we go. It's a whole lot of
nepotism that's connected to thank you.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
My mind is a little little gone today.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
And so to me, for it to be a new
owner to do it, I think it's interesting because then
it makes you ask the question like huh, Like if
a new owner could come in and see it to
say we should think about doing it, and I'm open
to doing it. Why aren't these other owners saying the
same exact thing, And why aren't they Why haven't they

(13:37):
already led the way? I mean, I can remember when
we were doing the reeds for grass, and that's been
what two years or so ago. I mean, at some
point an owner needed to step up and be like,
the welfare and the safety of the players is super
crazy important. If we don't have the players, we don't
have what we have, we don't have the game the way.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
That it is. Of course we'll want to put grass in.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Somebody should have been a trailblazer or stand up and
say this is the right thing to do. I don't
think that you should let this one fall on deaf airs.
I think it's certainly one of those those one things
in terms of the work environment, you would want you
would want to make sure that you're giving them the
best surface and the best opportunities to have success.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
So I don't think.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I do think that it has the potential of people,
especially you know, internally, getting tone deaf to it. But
I mean, when something like this happens and then it
hits the you know, it hits the media circuit. It
brings it back to everybody's frontal lobe, and it becomes
something that's front of mind, and it's like, oh, yeah,
the World Cup was a big deal and they did

(14:45):
and make all not one game was played on field turf.
And you got to ask yourself the question, if if
you could do that for this tournament that came into town,
why can't you do that for the guys that are
filling the state them up? You know, eight nine times
out of the year. Just seems a little strange.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
So here's what I never understand about these conversations is
aren't the owners in like hand in hand with players
on this? And I say that in the sense of,
wouldn't you want them to play on a service that
eliminates their injury risk? I mean you're giving them millions
of dollars in guarantees. I mean you're paying I mean,
so if a guy ends up injured, you know, yes,

(15:26):
there could be a salary split with this and his contract.
You might even say, well, hey, I have an insurance
policy to protect against that. I would imagine there's some
degree and insurance. These insurance policies are different. If you're
playing on grass versus on turf, maybe not, you know,
maybe it's just one.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Overarching But if I would get one, we would get
you would get I know, you knowing you, I mean,
I know I would I would get extra insurance based
off of especially with all the information that's connected to it.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
An insurance broker would take that personal a person.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, And look, teams will do it too, because they're
shilling out a lot of guaranteed dollars into these contracts
that they want to be protected from the downside of
that as well. My point is, if you're playing on
artificial turf versus grass, I would assume there's going to
be probably a greater likelihood of eventually an injury happening
on turf before grass. So that's more of what I'm

(16:18):
saying is it may even be more expensive for you.
So even though it's more expensive to maintain grass, if
it's in the best interest of your players keep them healthy,
giving you a chance to win, you're giving a chance
for them to stay healthy. Meanwhile, you're investing all this
money into them. Wouldn't you think that would be smart
to go ahead and say, why don't we do what's
in the best interest of our players, our employees. I mean,

(16:40):
if you are at the top of any company, isn't
that what you're always trying to do.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
I mean, I know you want.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
To cut costs and be more efficient and optimized, but
you know that's not the way most corporations would try
to handle their business if they felt like they were
doing something that would subject their employees to not be
able to produce at the highest level or put them
in harm's way.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Like It's always an interesting.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Discussion because when you take it out of these the
context of sport and you say, well, would any any
owner of any business say no, no, no, I want
my employees to work in a more dangerous environment, or
I want them to have a greater likelihod of getting injured,
just so I can save a little bit here, and
then on top of that, you know, maybe I can
do some more events things like that around it.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's like maybe, I mean.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Maybe, maybe there are some guys out there who don't
care about their employees, aren't as ethical, and there's a
world for them to live in that. But I'd sit
there and say, I think most owners would like to
see their company thrive, their employees thrive, they love to
work there, and this kind of falls in that category
of yeah, go to grass then, like you just showcased
the ability for all these NFL stadiums to do it,

(17:50):
so why not appease the players. But again, this probably
goes back to the negotiations of a lot of the
owners in saying, hey, you collect the bargain it so
that way, when we want to go to eighteen games,
this can be one of the ways we get there.
We give you, guys all grass fields, you get eighteen games,
and that way we can make even more money in
the bottom line. It all comes back to the CBA

(18:11):
in the end.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Then the Cardinals get it, right, I mean, don't they
wheel it in or don't they like yeah, like pull
it outside, get it some nice sun and some draft
apps from that Arizona air and then then't roll it
right on back into the stadium and play Like why
when every stadium think of doing it that way?

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Right? Like why not? I don't don't. I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I think it's more difficult than people think.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
And just even on that note, it's not like having
a grass field doesn't come with some you know issues
like people have talked about how the turf can be
slicked sometimes depending on the venue, like the humidity of
that that specific stadium inside, Like there are guys who
have to put on different cleats and whatnot. So yeah, again,
I'm just more for all grass. I know you're for grass.

(18:58):
I've seen you sell it variety of ways.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah, I'll roll it up. You ain't lying, I'll roll
it up.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Now.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'll grab some of them them blades up and grind
them up and roll them up, light them up.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
That's what I'm saying. I mean, in a variety of ways.
You're all for grass.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I mean, hey, hey man, nature natural, be natural man.
That thing was put here, that grass was put here
for you and for me. Was there field turf back
in the day, imagine that like field turf. Come on, man,
there wasn't no field turf back in the day. There
was grass. So so stick the grass. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2 (21:14):
I just feel like this is your playlist day, LeVar.
Is this not you?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I'm not a sexies back guy. Yeah, I wouldn't say that.
This is on my I can't we called. The last
time I've heard this before now. Honestly, I feel.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Like the last time I heard this before right now
was when Mark did another show with us. I feel like, Mark,
You've got like a set playlist.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
You like.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Whatever I can do to instigate you to to talk,
that's all I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Oh okay, okay, all right, Well I mean bring it
sexy back. I mean you're trying to put the e
back on our show.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Mark.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
We might have to throw you into the little rain
in Jonas Knox category on.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Whatever I could do to instigate, That's what I'm here for.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Am. Yeah, Hey, this would be the song for the
Banana Hammers. Maybe this would be there.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Versus the Spanky peppermint Patties. That's that's That's Levar's baseball team.
For those who have not seen Banana Ball, Levars has
quoted us creating.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
The team the Banana Hammers.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
So the Banana Hammers, I mean we, I mean we
got there together because I did say Hammers. But I'll
stand on it like we Yeah, let's go Banana Hammers.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I bet you will. Those Cavs, Let's do it everything.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Ye, I'll be the logo. One.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
One interesting piece of news is Derek Carr, uh the
former Pro Bowl quarterback in the NFL who is now retired.
He's joining UCLA as a special assistant to Bob Chasley,
the new head coach. That just came from James Madison. Now,
if you're asking yourself, all right, wait a second, didn't
Derek Carr get to Fresno State, That would be correct, Yes, him,

(22:56):
Derek and David both went to Fresno. They've done a
lot for the Resno community. So this falls into the
category where if Eddie was with us, I'd be asking
our old guy, Eddie Garcia, like, what the heck is
going on? Well, here's the deal. This goes back to
the UCLA general manager, Derek Ray, who was an assistant
at Fresno back when Derek Carr played there. He's now

(23:18):
the general manager for Bob chas Day UCLA so not
only will Derek Carr be a special assistant to the
head coach, he'll be helping out with the UCLA quarterbacks
as well. So it's kind of a twofold reasoning for
why he's going to be there. And my assumption is
he probably lives close to UCLA's campus, so it might
make a.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Little bit more sense.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Even though the second round pick in the twenty fourteen
draft has no ties to UCLA, it's still awestoma see
that he's able to get back in the game of
football and pass on the knowledge he's got. And that's
where it leads me to you, LeVar. Is there a
chance that we see this from you at some point
in time in the future. I mean, a special assistance
seems like it's an all encompassing term that you can

(23:57):
find a role for you at Penn State or somewhere.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
If I were to coach again, oh Man, Every once
in a while I think about it, I will say that,
and I think I was a I think I was
an effective coach. I think I've I've been a pretty
effective teacher through the years. I mean I've coached at

(24:22):
a couple interesting places. I mean, I coached with Antonio
Pierce at at Long Beach Polly, and that's where I
got my start in terms of like a high school,
like a real, real gig type deal that went really well.
And then I took a head coaching job and did
I did really well. I mean, we had a winning
season and it wasn't we were very shorthanded, and we

(24:43):
were winning in at a division level and in a
league where maybe we probably shouldn't have won a game.
Not trying to give myself the credit, I give it
to all of the kids because of what they bought
into and what they believed in, and our discipline and
our approach game planning, it paid off for us to
be able to win. I have honestly thought about it

(25:04):
and never thought about it being Penn State though.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
And I just would never.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Want to be in a situation where the people I
love so much turn on me, or the people I
love so much, I don't think they would. I think
ultimately winning, you know, winning matters more than anything else,
and so me being LeVar can only.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Go so far.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
If I've lost Ohio State, or if I've lost to Michigan,
or if I've lost the Oregon or whatever it may be.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I mean, I'll say this if I was.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
One, and this really sucks for coach Franklin, But if
I were having the type of seasons that Coach Franklin
was having, I don't I don't think I would have.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Gotten the rap that that he would have gotten.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
But but I also would have made sure that the
history and the traditions and everything that's connected to Penn State.
I mean, I understand the community, so I think I
would be able to navigate the conversations. I know the
local media beat reporters very well. We would be able
to have conversations to me. I think because we're such

(26:21):
a blue collar type of community, we look for real
answers and we look for real moments, and I think
I would be able to bring that que Honestly, if
I ever coached, I think my press conferences would be
amazing because I would be prepped on what I need
to say, what I need to go to, and what
I need to go away from. But I would do

(26:42):
it in a way where it's authentic and it's organic
and it serves our community. That's the thing about it
for me. I think Guys Who and Car is a
great example of it. If you've ever gotten to know
the car family. They're very good people, man, And I
just think, like this industry for what it's worth. I
can understand why old school coaches like Iron fisted the

(27:07):
way they handle things, but ultimately still the best ones
were the ones who were able to connect with the
communities and connect with their players on a more personal level.
And I think that'd be the type of person that
would be. I think about it here and there, but
I think the time commitment would be too much on me.

(27:29):
Like there'd be days, Yeah, I think there would be
days where I'd be like, yeah, I just don't why
am I doing this? Like every once in a while
when I'm doing radio, I'd be like I don't need
Like what do I need to get up? It's like
I'm challenging myself to be more, but every once in
a while it's like I don't want to do it,

(27:49):
you know what I mean? Like, every once in a
while you get those feelings you don't want to do it.
And I'm accountable here. I still show up. If I
were a coach, I gotta be accountable there. But but
showing up to do three hours of radio versus what
your responsibility is? I mean I took it did seriously
as a as a high school coach. The time commitment

(28:12):
that I had when I was high school coaching was crazy.
I just know it would be crazy if I had
any type of like if I was a position coach,
if I was a coordinator, even if I was a
quality control coach. Because I feel like car doing what
he's doing, he's positioning himself to be able to have
the conversation, can I can I transition into being a
head coach? Can I go get on that pathway by

(28:36):
doing it this way? Usually that's how guys get to
coaching is by taking I mean that's a more advanced
or more elevated, you know, sounding title to be the assistant?

Speaker 2 (28:46):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (28:47):
What is he called the assistant?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
What he's a special assistant?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, I mean it seems like a more elevated way
of saying a quality control coach.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
But either way, that's how you get in.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
You get your foot in the door and the next
thing you know, he's an offense coordinator.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
The next thing you know, he's a hey coach.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
So if you decide to coach and you want me
to come on staff.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
I'll do it.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Otherwise, if it's somebody that I love and care about that.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
That would do it. I would do it.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
I don't think I would go in and be the catalyst,
like I would not go apply for a type of job,
or somebody that I love and care about and not
trust will have to.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
Be you know the reason why I do it.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Well, I would say this.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I think that title special assistant allows him proud to
have more of the schedule he can work in with
his family life and all that that It's most likely
why is you in UCLA? His relationship to with Ray
who we talked about, because I look at Presno State
and I say, dude, I mean, Matt End's great coach.
Obviously had a very successful career, winning two FCS national

(29:50):
championships at North Dakota State before he went to Fresno State.
He's only been there a year, but the what nine
to four last year. He's got a really good staff
around him too, you know, Brian Fair. It's for example,
who's the offensive line coach there, Josh Davis doc. You
know they've got We've got a number of really good coaches,
and he's a very good coach. So I would think,

(30:10):
I don't know, maybe he looks at Fresno State says
they're good or you know, that's not where I'm living
now to be too tough with my family to be
able to do both those things.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
It just seems odd at a.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Time where you know, if you wanted to come back
to your first spot, maybe that place makes sense. But
maybe to your point, it's too close to home, you know,
And in the UCLA provides him a distance away from
his alma mater where he gets to just keep it
that you know who he was as a player and
how he's been able to help out that community and UCLA,
you know, it is really a team that and a
program that you know has had its its success in

(30:42):
the past. But they're trying to figure out how to
get back competitive in a new conference in the Big Ten,
and they've struggled to do so.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
They struggled with a number of things.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
But I think Bob Chesney, with the way he is
as a coach, his track record of success, you add
on a guy like Derek Carr, I think it will
go a long way and help into it and improve
at least their chances of being more competitive within the
Big Ten sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 3 (31:25):
Post it right after we end the show or get
off the air. I guess the next thing I'll just
say on this subject is I feel like you're getting
more and more players who they cycle out from playing
in the NFL and they want to get directly back
involved again. And I think that's a good thing, especially
even at the college level where there's a little bit

(31:45):
of unstability.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Do you see it that way more, where.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Like guys kind of get done and they're like, yeah,
I don't I physically can't do it anymore. But I'm
still feeling like this is the closest thing to being
a part of it.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I mean, there are a lot of guys that they
they don't or or or is it the other thing?

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Is it your other theory that you said before?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
What was it that I don't want to be at home,
is it? I don't want to be at home because
if that's one, that's probably number one outside of.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
These cats do not. Now I'm not speaking on me.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
If y'all know me, I'm always home and I love
being up under my family, like that's that's my thing.
Like I'm with my family all the time. But for
some of these cats out here, they'll rather sleep under there.
They'll they'll say they're trying to be the best coach
that they can be and lead this team and this,
that and the other, and I can't go home because

(32:41):
I got to continue to game plan and this. You
don't like your wife, You don't you don't like your
life outside of here, You don't like leaving the office.
You you pull up to your house and you gotta
look at your rear view mirror. You gotta look at
your hands on the staf will before you even turn

(33:02):
the car off and convince yourself that I can make
it through the night to get to back to the
facility tomorrow morning.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
I'll never buy.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'll never fully buy the coach that says he's so
dedicated to his job that he's got to sleep in
his office. I gotta this is an overnighter to do. Like, nah,
you can put in enough time to be effective and
efficient and still be what you need to be at

(33:34):
home as it applies to your job. But let me
tell you something. You won't have to stay there overnight
like that. You just don't want to go home and listen,
do I get done? Does home life get on your nerves?
Hell yeah, that's part of it, That's what you signed
up for. It does get on your nerves. But there's

(33:56):
a difference between getting on your nerves and you're like, yep,
I get my ego stroked all the way at work
I come in. It's like hey, coach, Hey, coach, Hey coach,
Hey coach? Coach does coach that?

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Coach? Does coach?

Speaker 1 (34:08):
That? Like from from head coach to assistance Right, there's
a certain clout that comes with it, a certain reverence
and respect that comes with it when you're on a
coaching staff, and that type of feeling that you get
when you're around the football building and you get that
opportunity to feel what it feels like to be in
the locker room and a part of all of the

(34:29):
trash talking and all of the camaraderie.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
There's the portion of guys I just don't want to
be around their wife, They don't want to deal with
their kids. They want to deal with them how they
want to deal with them, and that's why they coach.
Then there's the other ones that you're talking about, where
they feel like I can't do it anymore. And some
of them even feel like their skills don't translate outside
of the game, and they just feel comfortable and they

(34:57):
feel safe being in a football environ men, and they
coach and and so, and they coach forever like they
don't they don't leave Q. They coach forever and and
those those guys are out there, and I think they
are great for the game because they have a wealth
of knowledge. I mean, some of us we were punched
drunk from playing the game, where decrepit from playing the game.

(35:19):
I'm I'm on that list, But we'll be out there
on that field and oh, my back is horrible. You know,
my back is horrible. Yeah, but we got to do
something more for that. You got to movie around more.
You know, I don't know if you move around enough
throughout the day. If I if I were a coach,
And that's another thing, right, I get. I get to
eat for free all day. I get access to medical

(35:43):
treatment all day, like I could.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
I got access to all these facilities.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
You're telling me, you'd be one of those coaches that'd
be up on the training table.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
On the table.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Every time I go every listen, every time I do
the show from Penn State.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
You know what I do? Right after the show, I
go down to the to the.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Pro locker room.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
There's a locker room off of our regular locker room
where the ex players go and they can change and.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Go get a workout in. I go to the.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Gym when I'm in. Every time I go downstairs, I
get my I get in the hot tub, I get
in the cold tub, I use the steam room, and
I lift You got.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
That a little spade for yourself there, I'll.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Hey, bruh, And I do go in like what what
was my knee was bothering me?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
My back?

Speaker 4 (36:31):
My back was bothering me. It always bothers me.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
And I went into the training room and was on
the training table getting treatment, Like yeah, yeah, absolutely, I
want to If I was coaching, I would be one
of them dudes. Yes, I'm getting my knees iced, I'm
getting stretched I'm getting I'm doing prehab as a coach one.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Well you heard it her, folks.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
First, folks, it's gonna be LeVar Arrington as a special
assistant somewhere soon. But coming up next tier on Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe, we have to get
to what the hell are we watching on the other
side of this break.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
You let him pressure You let him pressure you? Mark? Yeah, yeah,
you did.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
No.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Mark likes of this genre this era though of music,
So I guess, so that's the eighties.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Like this is like, uh, this is Mark. You remember
you remember the American Flyers. This sounds like a movie
like when they were training for like bicycle race. You
remember the bicycle race where the dude got sick and
ended up dying and stuff.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Like they were brothers and they rowed together and stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
I don't but I also I don't watch a ton
of stuff. So oh, and this is a great segment
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Speaker 2 (38:23):
So much to watch so little talk and.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I ate his lever with some father beings.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
But still everyone wants to know, shame, what the hell
are we watching?

Speaker 4 (38:33):
I'll tell you the truth.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
I don't give it all right, LeVar. This is usually
your wheelhouse.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
You tend to watch a variety of shows, and we
got to know what the hell are you watching?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (38:45):
All right?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
So I was watching obviously House at Dragons. I was
watching that that one just concluded. Kind of it sucks
because it's only eight episodes, so you get eight weeks
of it and then it's gone for two years, right
like gone forever? Which is that that really stinks? But

(39:07):
I watched that nonetheless and I know it like I
know what happens at the end, so kind of seeing
the the way things ended in this season without me
trying to go into too much detail for those who
watch it don't want me to spoil alert. You could
see how it gets to where it gets to and

(39:27):
how it's like kind of you know, evolving to the
ultimate end of this being the final season of House
of Dragons coming up, and you can see clearly how
it's trending. That's one. I also watched Kevin Hart's seventy
two Hours. That was a cool one.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
You know, just followed Kevin Hart for seventy two hours.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
So he's an old head ad exact right, and something
happened where they were like, oh you did this, and
it just comes across is like.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
You're old, like you're you're out.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Of touch and.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
So you're you're probably going to get passed up on
this promotion. And he goes he goes to Miami, I believe,
and starts to create these ads, these different ads, and
it's a pretty funny movie. It's fun because you know,
he you just got to watch it. It's it's a
cool little watch. But he eventually makes friends with these

(40:27):
young dudes and they have a deal and then the
guy gets married because they're on there, he's on his
bachelor party weekend. It's it's a it's a cool one.
It's a cool one to watch seventy two hours with
Kevin Hart. But that's why I've been watching. I feel like,
I feel like you usually have like one or two more,
but that's it.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Yeah, I do, I do, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I do have a few more, but they were documentaries
and they're just not worth They're kind of gory.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not really into all. That's kind of stuck.
I got one. You know who's into uh, you know
who's into some of that stuff though.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
It's Pete Prisco, the senior NFL callum list for CBS Sports,
CBS Sports HQ. He's coming up on the other side
of this break. You won't want to you won't want
to miss Pete Prisco and then get off my porch
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