August 12, 2026 • 41 mins
In Hour 2 of the show, Brady Quinn & LaVar Arrington go over the crazy starting ticket prices for LeBron James 76er debut at Madison Square Garden being around $2,000 a ticket. Plus, the guys discuss Jordan Love playing the upcoming preseason game, Jalen Hurts moving at a much faster speed, have another edition of The Good The Bad & The Ugly, and more!!
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Checking things off on a home day, an hour two LeVar,
A lot to discuss, a lot to talk about in
regards to the NFL preseason training camp.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
A lot of things going on.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
The first thing else we're gonna look at that and
saying is and not every organization does this.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Not every organization gives the player the option to do
this or not. But Jordan Love the.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Starting quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. He will play
in the first preseason game. I'm not sure if that
makes you a little bit concern scared, but whatever I
see it nowadays, it feels like that is abnormal. Like
you don't see a lot of starters taking reps in
the preseason just feels like it's too big of a risk.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Do you have a problem with it, Like, if you're.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
A defensive player and you got to play, your quarterback doesn't,
or even if you don't have to play, is there
an itch to want to get out there and play
just so you can get some of those live reps going.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Man, I'm an old school que so this one, this
topic is always somewhat interesting to me if you're not
a Veta vets. Like again, I played with Bruce Smith
my first year. I played with Dion Sanders and Darryl
green All in my first season, mark career. Guys like
that that were older guys, if they're not playing because
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you want to preserve them for the season and different
things like that.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I get it, but at some point you got to.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Understand that it is football and it is your job
and for what it's worth. From what it sounds like,
I haven't been to a training camp since I've retired,
but what it sounds like they don't even practice that hard,
so where you may say, oh, like they're getting good
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reps and you know they're banging in practice and getting
right and callousing and heartening themselves up.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
For the season. It doesn't sound like that.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It sounds like tenderized type practices that are taking place.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And I'm not the old guy to sit there and.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Talk about this is how you have to do it,
because I didn't like banging all the time. I like
get my work in and then less I would have
rathered us spent more time going over the details of
the schemes and walking through the details of what the
offenses are doing. You know, what windows this quarterback or
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what we should be preparing for for whatever that may be,
the progressions that this could be. It's a copycat league,
so if you're seeing past, you know, past concepts, chances
are you're going to see it from most all the
other teams. The same exact concept is just a matter
of who's coaching it, when they call it, and ultimately
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the players that are running those those routes. But yeah,
you know, I'm not going to say I have a
problem with it. I mean, I just think it's a
tad bit overstated to be like, oh, we don't want
them to get hurt, like oh, he shouldn't get hurt,
or da da da, we don't want to risk their
health and this and that, well you know what, the
minute they go on the field for a regular season game,
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it's the same exact scenario that's at play. And I
know they say, well, it's unnecessary risk the regular season,
it counts, but I don't want like, okay, so are
we going to play them limited during the regular season,
So try to make it to the playoffs. Make sure
that he's health and ready to go for the playoffs. Like,
why don't we do that with players on the regular season. Hey,
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you know what, we got good, little decent, little game
going on here. Let's give our quarterback a break. Let's
put another one in. We don't want to make sure.
We want to make sure he doesn't get hurt or
get too many reps on his body or anything like that,
which wouldn't be a horrible idea, but at the end
of the day, that's not reality. So to me, I
think if you're preparing for the season, and having screened
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some of my funnest games in high school, not college.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Not pros.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You don't have scrimmages in college because inner squad, but
you're doing pros this preseason. Some of my funnest games
in high school were the scrimmage games. I'm just being honest, like,
and I know that's you know, high school, but some
of my funnest games, and you get a feel for
where you're at, Like, I don't know about you, but
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I don't feel like I was at the same exact
place physically mentally.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Every season a.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Season goes by, I felt like I was for the
for the longest time, I was better physically and I
was better mentally. Then I got to a point in
my career where I was just getting better mentally and
I had to do more to figure out what I
had going on because I wasn't getting better physically.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
That's kind of how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I think it's interesting too, though, as you look at
the kids coming from college now. I mean back when
we were there, the exhibition games, you know, they were
meaningful and you'd play them at a pride, you plan
them to win. And nowadays you get a lot of
guys who, when it comes time to the season, if
they don't make the.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Playoffs, they're out.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
And it feels like we're getting closer and closer to
a lot of players having I don't know, they're either
being used to or more adjusted to saying like, hey, man,
if this game doesn't count, Like what am I doing?
Why am I putting myself at it in harm's way
or injury risk? And because that's how it's happening in
college now you see a decent amount of this. I mean,
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it's going to change now with the five for five
and so instead of a red shirt, they now just
have five years to play five. But there came a
point in time, and I'm sure you've heard stories like
this where guys will be like, no, I'm not burning
my red shirt. Like I will play up to that
point in the regular season where it's not going to
impact my ability to lose out on this potential year
(06:20):
that I can get back either here or somewhere else.
But if we make the playoff, those games don't count
against me. So I'll play then, But otherwise like, I'm
not doing it. So we're now getting to an era
where we've got players who came from high school to college,
college to the NFL and that's the only world they've
ever known was they're being compensated to go play football,
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and if it doesn't count, they're not doing it. They're
not putting themselves in harm's way. Some guys, even if
they're not going to the NFL, they'll be going to
get surgery and so forth.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So I do wonder and then Jordan loves not in
that category.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
He's obviously old enough to be remember playing through you know,
bowl games, et cetera, where things you know, seem at
least at that point in time meaningful. But it does
seem like we're going to an era of like, if
we go to eighteen games, where do you think they're
going to take a game away?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
It's gonna be the preseason, and so we'll.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Probably get more scrimmages, we'll probably get more joint practices
and less preseason games because there's just not enough teams
that really value.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Whatever work is taking place.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
And to your point, you know, it's odd, like it's
only at the NFL level where you have a preseason
where you have games that don't really matter for anything.
You don't have it in high school, you don't have
it in college, And there is something to be said
about that, like it makes it difficult to prepare if
you don't have any sort of those live games scenarios.
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You have scrimmages as we've talked about, which essentially replaces that.
But still, like there is something to be said for that.
So I just hope he stays healthy. I think he's
in for a potentially big year. I think the Green
Bay Packers are in for a big year, and you'd
hate to see anything.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Happen to him.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
If indeed, you know you're playing a meaningless preseason game
and there's those freak accidents that may take place from
time to time.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Next the thing, right, well, hold on, think about this,
think about this right. My last year of school in
ninety nine, we play Arizona for the first game of
the year, Arizona. We go out there and I leave
the game at halftime because I went into a full
body crant full body And the point of the story is, it's.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Like, if you look at it.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
And you say it doesn't mean anything, with the mindset
that the game doesn't mean anything, then you're not getting
something out of the game.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
I felt like, if you go into.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
A game, and this is what I always thought about
NFL preseason games, it's like, Okay, I know what it
feels like to play in a real game. For two series.
In the first game, it's a nice little start. Okay,
second game, I know what it feels like to play
The first quarter of the game and and maybe part
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of the second quarter feels pretty good.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Great third game.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I'm playing three quarters, like well, two quarters the first
half and that first series of that second half. So
I can feel what it feels like to come out
of the locker room and play in the third quarter,
how my body feels. I almost feel like it gives
you the opportunity without the game counting, getting your body
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acclimated and ready to play for it. By the time
I got to Game one, I sat out there. Obviously,
the vets and and starters all sat out pretty much
the last the last game, which it used to be,
you know, used to be four preseason games. We would
sit out that last one, and then going into the
regular season, we were we felt like we were were
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rested and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
To the game.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And I could play four quarters and I didn't come
up with cramps.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I I knew where my.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Body was at, and my body was acclimated to playing
quarters and coming out after halftime.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
So I would I would.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Say that if you have the games and they do matter,
have a game plan as to how you're approaching using
those games, because sometimes, I mean it's not sometimes if
you approach it. With the right mindset, you certainly can
use those games to the advantages that they're there for
if you're going to play in them at you know, regardless,
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I guess.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
It's funny now that I've gotten out owing away from
football and it kind of looked back on it. I've
actually always thought the preseason in some ways is more
beneficial for the front office and coaches than it is
for the players. And the reason why I say that
is because you get a better chance to evaluate your
guys their capabilities what they're going to do in a
live game scenario, because practice is very different than a game,
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and when you're going up, as we've talked about the
score before, when you have script readers, guys who are
trying to read the script to see what the defense
is supposed to be doing, and then they will go
out there and act like they don't know, and they'll
try to you know, obviously, for quarterbacks in particular, put
the ball on a certain spot, or if they're a receiver,
they'll be like, well, it's cover three, so if I
have a rout adjustment, I know I'm supposed to do this.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Or if you're alignment, they're like, well, I know they're.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Blitzing on this play, so this is I mean, they
it gets to the point where there's a lot of
different positions try to benefit off reading what they're supposed
to see in practice, and so.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
When you get to a live game, you don't have
any of that.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And and there are some times in preseason where you
got some question marks about guys that could some guys
get answered in those moments.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And there's also some guys who start good practice players.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
You know, there's guys I can think of in the
back of my head that you know, you would see
and go, man, they can't figure out practice, but they
get to a game and it's just a whole world.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Like, yeah, well that look crazy in practice and can't
get it into game.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I remember when I was in Seattle went one preseason
we had a receiver who was incredible.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I mean, every single time he'd.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Be one and one on a go route, we were
like mandated in the quarterback room to take a shot.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Because he was that. He was that big of a
big play receiver.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And then we get through the regular season, couldn't stay healthy,
couldn't have the same impact. You know, you're getting you know,
schemed up game plan against that.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You know, in part, you can't be a one trick pony.
But at the same time, there is other elements to
you know, him that we're kind of lacking in that regard.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But I digress.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I sometimes think it's more for coaching than it is
for really the players. Because the players take on all
the risks, the coaches are the ones that are find
out the most and they're figuring out scheme wise, personnel wise,
what they could do. So I'll be like I said,
just hope that he stays healthy. Hope nothing happens, because
that could dramatically derail their season. And remember you know
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where you know, Jordan Love kind of left off at times,
Leek Willis was able to come in and help out,
and they don't have that anymore. You know, he's down
in Miami, So that becomes then a question mark. Something
that's not a question mark is Jalen Hurt's ability to
win games. But what has been a question mark for
the Philadelphia Eagles has been their offense.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And obviously it's been a bit of an up and down.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Especially through the years, with different coordinators calling plays. This year,
they get a new offensive coordinator Sean Manyon his first
time ever calling plays in the NFL. But it's not
so much man, you don't want to talk about. It's
Jalen Hurts and how he's impressed his teammates. He dropped
ten pounds and from all accounts, he is looking faster.
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He's looking as good as he's ever looked.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And if you don't trust me, just listen to Jalen Carter.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
He rolls out and I'm chasing down a couple of
times where he'd be moving right.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I don't know what it is, but when I'm watching them,
I'm running as like a movie.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I feel like I'm going slow.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
But he he be moving.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Man, he's been working parts one.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
So this is where I kind of look at it
and say, all right, last year kind of down here
for the offense, and this is one of those years
they bring in another offensive coordinator and Hurts looks like
he's in mint shape. Do you have high expectations for
these us? I know we talked about Dallas yesterday. You
think that's the team of the division. That doesn't mean
this can't be a playoff team. That doesn't mean this
isn't a team that can't go on a run with
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the personnel and how good that roster is.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I do think they can be a good team. They
have a lot of the elements that they need. I
do not think that they are This is just me.
I just don't think they're solidified at the receivers position.
I know some of the names are names, they're recognizable names.
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I just don't think that they're the guy. I don't
think any of those guys are the guy.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And so.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yes, I think they can be good, but Jalen Hurts
is going to have to be exceptional. And the offense
is once again this new offensive coordinator. Look at the
year they had when they won the Super Bowl. The
offense has to go through Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
It has to.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You gotta hope that, you know, the line of scrimmage
holds up, that they're seemingly healthy. I heard there's a
little center that's in camp that's that's doing pretty well.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
He's popping out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Uh. But you gotta hope that that massive offensive line
is able to hold up and do the things that
they've done in the past. You gotta hope that that
Saquon has a bounce back year. And if they're able
to do that on defense, they'll be fine. They'll be
just fine on defense, But can their offense produce and
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can Saquon take the pressure off of Jalen Hurts to
have to do it in the air, because really, if
we really think about it, I don't know that Jalen
Hurts has ever really done it on an entire regular season,
entire season basis of getting it done solely.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Through the air. It has to be through something else.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And so to me, I look at it as, yes,
they are a top team, and they should be the
team to to look at as the favorite just off
of track record. But I just think that that whole dynamic.
I think George Pickens being in his second season with
Dallas and those two studs out on the outside is
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as long as as Dak Prescott is what he needs
to be in this offense. I'm excited to see what
their defense is capable of doing. But again, I think
they're scary. That's just I'll say the Eagles are the
expected team, the Cowboys are the scary team, and I.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Can see that.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I mean, I still think this is one of the
best rosters in the NFL. This team he knows how
to win. This team knows how to win. It's a
scary sign if you or getting him back involved in
the run game. I know you said everything goes through Saquon,
but you know, also as a defender, if your quarterback
is capable of running the football for anywhere from four hundred,
five hundred to eight hundred yards a season, that puts
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a lot of pressure on the defense too to account
for him. And that's where you know, I don't think
his style of play is ever going to be like
a Drew Brees where he's throwing for over five thousand
yards and he did that four or five times whatever
it was in his career.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's just not his style. It was never his style.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
You know, his high water mark in college was his
final year with Oklahoma, and that was in a system
with Lincoln Riley that was much more conducive to you know,
stretching the field vertically, but also in a big twelve
that didn't have as good a defense back then.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
So when I look.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
At what he's been able to do so far in
the NFL, I think there's times that he gets a
lot of criticism and I don't know how warranted it is.
You know, I'm not in that locker room, so I
don't know if it's personality driven and how maybe he is,
or if it's more of a lack of consistency with
where his passing is. It's hard to do that when
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you've got different coordinators every single year. I mean, we've
gone through it. I mean I think for the last
five years, he's got a different guy calling plays. And
the tough part for that is it's that's not all
on him. Like oftentimes, when you're with a coordinator who's
never called plays before at the NFL level, they're trying
to figure out what their identity is as a play caller.
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You know, how are they going to respond when you
go out there and throw a pick? Are they going
to stay with the plan? Are they gonna be like, ah, man,
it's one of those days he's not playing well, I
gotta gotta run the ball now. We got to do this,
or we get a simplify like there are there are
coordinators who lose faith in a quarterback in a moment's notice.
It doesn't take much. And there's some that stay the course.
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They're like, we have a good plan. I trust that
that's an outlier, and I trust that he's going to respond.
So when you don't have that, or you have a
guy who doesn't have that experience to actually call plays
that way, it makes it difficult. So I would say this,
I think it's a dangerous sign if you've got a
guy who is able to hurt you with his legs,
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but also is with a coordinator that from all reports,
everyone seems to be extremely pressed by Sean Manyon. And
I guess if we're looking at history and it tends
to repeat itself, if last year is a down year,
then this year is an up year, because that's the
pattern that the Philadelphia Eagles have basically followed throughout the
course of Jalen Hurts time with the Eagles. Last thing
up and this was more just an interesting note that
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you don't typically hear in training camp. Going through some
of the news and notes around the NFL. Rachie Rice,
the receiver for the Kansas City Chiefs, talked about, you know,
what he's experienced this summer and maybe some learning lessons
while he had let's just say some time off.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
I'm one hundred percent locked in on what's going on
now with the team ready to go out there and dominate,
and that I got a good group of brothers, like
brotherhood behind me. I learned and experience are reality checking.
Don't focus on the past, focus on what's going on now,
all right, So.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I guess he needs to do that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Focus on Yeah, I would hope that being in jail
would be a learning experience for anyone.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That would be my hope.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, And remember what that felt like. You know how
they stay when you want something big or you lost
something big. Remember what it felt like it feels like.
Remember that feeling because you it's either a feeling that
you never want to feel again from these the loss,
the losing of it, or the total you know, just
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jubulation and excitement you feel in the moment of triumph.
You remember those moments. And if I'm if I'm rice,
I don't want to uh, I don't want to forget
what it felt like when I did the things that
led to me being in a situation that he was in.
And in fact, if he was in a Nissan Frontier,
which I respect pickups big time that are built to be,
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Speaker 3 (21:33):
I just wonder how many more opportunities he will get.
It seems like he's gotten plenty of opportunities with the
Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
They seem to be.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Very high on him, very bullish on what he's capable
of as a player, and I think you've seen flashes
of it throughout the course of his career. But this
is also a Kansasity chief seems that was underwhelming last
year and really the past couple of years their offense.
I'm not trying to point the finger at him, but
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when you're drafted to come in and be one of
those guys or the star receivers, and they've had some
other guys they've been able to bring on this team.
They've they've drafted, well, developed well. He seems to be
one of the exceptions. And I'm not sure it's stubbornness
of the coaching staff or the front office, but whether
it's you know, you know what we'll call injury or
off the field issues, he just seems like a guy
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that they want to stick with. And I don't know
how many more chances he will get. Like it feels
like if it's me and I was evaluating this roster,
this would be one of the last years where I
would be giving him saying, let's see what you're capable of.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Let's see where this year goes.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
But after that, we have to really start thinking long
and hard about finding someone that we feel more confident
in being able to be here on a consistent basis
and producing.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Because he hasn't been that.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
So I know he'd maybe some you know, someone out
there's favorite player, but you know, for me, I think
he's got to prove.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
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if you saw, but for the Nix debut versus the
seventy six ers in Madison Square Garden, tickets have gone
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on sale. Do you want to take a shot at
what you think the minimum prices to.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Get in right now?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Minimum five hundred up more higher, dang, minimum eight hundred.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Dollars keep going up, my friend.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Dang, I'm going to say one dollar.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That would be down. So it's two thousand.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Dollars is what it's going to cost price on James
and what some.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Believe to be that maybe in the final season, maybe
maybe not.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Either way, that's the get in ticket costs right now
at Madison Square Gardens. So I don't know about you,
it's a great matchup right New York Philly Brunson Lebron.
Granted there's a lot of other great players that are
on the sixers as well. But I look at it
to say to myself like, really, I mean, look, here's
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my secret to all those who want to get into
that game. Okay, if you want to overspend on that ticket,
go ahead, lock in your purchase. Do it now, give
yourself the peace of mind that you will be able
to go witness what could be the end of Lebron's career. Again,
we'll see what happens after the season.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But go do it.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Go spend the money if you've got the money, or
even if you don't, you want to, and it's your life, man, yolo.
But the reality is, if you've ever followed all the
stuff that's gone on around stub Hub and their CEO,
Eric Baker, who's he's facing a class action lawsuit and
a lot of public scrutiny after there's been investigations linked
to him with this large scale take a reselling financing operation.
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So he's got stub Hub that he's the head of.
Then he has Andro Capital, which allegedly was trading heavily
on this platform. You know, he was trading heavily on
this platform, reselling and financing for tickets. So it's a
little bit incessual, which you know shouldn't be something that
can happen. Even though we were led to believe it
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was a neutral marketplace, it's not. So if you want
to go pay a premium, go ahead. Otherwise, just wait
till last second, you know, like you'll find a ticket
the last second. Those prices will drop, they'll come down.
It's like spoiled milk. They got to get rid of it.
So if you have the flexibility and you think you're
gonna be in New York at that time, I'm just saying,
wait till the last second, maybe even after tip Like,
(27:37):
does it really matter. Does anyone on Instagram actually see
if they're there for tip off or not? You know,
you mightily a ticket there for the second core. Hey,
all I'm saying is don't waste all your money, all right,
First off, we don't even if Lebron's gonna be done
this season. Second is it's all scam. The whole thing's
a scam, So don't waste your money on that. That's
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my advice. Hm hmmm, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I think having the opportunity to go see Lebron play,
and this being his foreseeable last last season, I think
that there's some I said it to you when we
were talking about where would he end up as as
a pro, that he's going to impact the economics of
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the game wherever it is that he goes, and that's
going to be ticket sales, that's going to be Jersey sales,
whatever it may be. He's going to get. He's it's
it's going to happen. It's going to happen because it's
Lebron James and and so.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You know, I.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Would say, if you're going to spend the money because
you feel like this is this is that once in
a lifetime opportunity to go see him play before he's done,
then maybe the ticket is worth that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Maybe it is. It ain't worth the to me though,
because there's another thing. You're not factoring him. We all
assume he would be healthy for this.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Obviously, he's up there in age, there's always the chance
he could tweak something or be it injured. And that's
not to include the fact of load management, which he
only played sixty games last year, So you know he's
gonna miss a court of the games one in four games.
You know, is this one of those games he has
scheduled as load management. Is this one of those games
that he just happens to miss because of some calf tightness, soreness, whatever.
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So that's another reason why I feel like it's too
much of a risk for me to want to even
look at and pay those prices. I think this makes
for a great story as the game gets closer. I
wouldn't be shocked if the take A price doesn't fall dramatically.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Another thing I was gonna.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Say is when I saw this, I thought to myself,
all Right, I grew up not liking Michael Jordan because
I was a Cleveland Cavalier fan, but I still could
appreciate his greatness and how good he was. So when
I would have the chance to go watch him when
he crushed my dreams as a young kid in Ohio,
(30:02):
I still could appreciate that. Now, if you would have
asked me to go watch him when he was with
the Washington Wizards, I probably would have said, yeah, I'm good,
Like I don't need to see that version of him.
Is this version of him worth it in your mind?
Because not only is there the percentage chance that he
doesn't play at all, but also you're not getting the
same player that you once did. Like I remember being
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there for the Cavaliers Spurs final where yes they got swept.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
But he was incredible.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
The way he led that team to the finals that year,
in my opinion, was his greatest accomplishment ever because you
go back and look at that team, that team was
the furthest thing ever from being a team that probably
should have been playing in an NBA finals, And then
every subsequent team that he made it to the finals
with was way ahead, way more talented, and you could
(30:55):
even say deeper in some ways than that team. So
I look at this version of him after seeing Lebron
when he first got in the league and really through
those prime years, and say, even when I saw me
in Miami.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Like, this is not that version of him.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I just I don't know that I'm walking away thinking like, yeah,
I want to see the end.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Most people they'd rather not see the end.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
That's why you got some close caskets. That's why some
people like being cremated. Like, I'm not trying to make
that comparison necessarily. I'm just saying, like, it's not as
fun at the end when you're watching an aging player.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's just not It's not what it used to be.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I'll say this, It's funny that you use Jordan as
an example, because I I got court sad seats for
the entire season to watch Michael Jordan play as a
Washington Wizard. And I gotta be honest with you, at
(31:50):
I I enjoyed it. I thought it was super entertaining
to watch Michael Jordan play as as a Washington Wizard.
And for no other reason, I knew I wasn't getting
I wasn't getting Chicago Mike. I knew I wasn't getting
Chicago Mike. But I got our DC Mike, and I
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was able to take in and and enjoy watching, uh,
watching him play.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
And I don't know, man, I just.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I get what you're saying, and and I think there's
there's some merits to or some validity to the idea
of you know, sometimes when the milk goes bad, the
milk is gone bad.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
And when the when the well is run dry, it's
run dry. I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
But there's just certain guys that are generational guys, and
Lebron James is one of them, and you know people
are going to spend that type of cash to go
check him out.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I get it, but don't tell me the folks who
are like, you know, Willie Nelson or whoever else you know,
Ringo Star, other guys out there who are.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Still still playing.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
So I'm Mick Jagger, Bob Dylan Palmer, some of these
guys that are still out there on tour.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You see the videos of it and.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
You're going, oh man oo they yeah, oo ooh, that's
not what it.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
That's not as fun as they used to be.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
And again, like Lebron's still playing at a high level
when he's out there, it's just there's a good chance,
you know, twenty five percent chance he's not gonna be
out there, and maybe even higher than that going into
this show, Like, I don't know what that.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Number is going to be.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I'm just basing this off of, you know, really what
last season looked like and if we're being real with ourselves.
He's only played like over seventy games once since God
twenty seventeen. If I'm not mistaken, I remember seeing that
stat somewhere. I mean, I think one of the years
he got he hit seventy with the Lakers. Maybe it
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was a couple of years ago now, but it's not
like he's playing eighty two. Like, let's be real about that.
He's had seasons where he's only played forty five. He's
had seasons where he's played fifty five. Like there's been
some years where it's been cut down something that was COVID,
but there's been some seasons that he hasn't played quite
as much. And that's one of the risks that you
have too when you're trying to go see him. He's
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not playing all eighty two. So if you think you're
buying those season tickets, all right, I've got the what
forty one home games, and I'm excited to see him.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
He ain't playing that many times.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Man, you've got at least ten of those home games,
he's probably not going to be playing or starting. You're
just talking to him on the bench, taking pictures of
him on the bench, and street close just saying man's
I get what you're saying, But at the same time,
that's way too much money to spend on a Madison
Square Garden game. As cool as that venue is, there's
just no guarantee that he's actually going to be there.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
And you're not wrong.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I just don't. I'm not going to judge Lebron. I'm
not going to judge to people who want to see
Lebron James play.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
I'm just not I'm not judging him.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I'm just saying, don't waste your money. You know, Like
I said, if you really want to go, just wait,
just wait. You got to get the ticket and stuff
and all that, but just wait. I promise you there
will be some people there who are trying to scam
you that once that game tips off, man telling you
it's gonna be a little different, and then that price
drops dramatically. All right, So don't let Eric Baker and
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some of these other scam artists get you out there,
all right, come up next to you on two Pros
and a Cup of Joe. We've got the good, the bad,
and the ugly.
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Speaker 6 (36:02):
All right, that's how are some good things that happen,
and there's some bad and then there's some downright ugly things.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
It's time for good, bad and ugly.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Wall my sheriff sweek up. You've got to take part
though today with mister Knox being out. So how do
you want to divide this thing up? If you're going
to be part of this, should we have Loraina do
the duties?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Well, Constable?
Speaker 8 (36:28):
Well, boys, we got the good, the bad, and the ugly,
and today it would normally be mister Jonas Knox doing
the good.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Would be but he's out.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
So Patty, mister sweets how to shoot from the hip,
give us the good.
Speaker 9 (36:44):
Shooting it our draw partners. I'm the good of the
week this week. And my good of the week, guys,
is hard Knocks. I got to watch the Seahawks doing
hard knocks. In fact, this is the first time I've
actually ever watched hard knocks, like, you know, actually seriously
in my life. And of course it's for my team,
but this is my good of the week. I thought
it was really fun. It was engaging. You got to
(37:05):
see an in depth analysis, just kind of like how
my team, you know, looks at camp and just see
you know, Mike McDonald some of the other players and
just the character of him. And honestly, it felt really
cool and I had a lot of fun watching that.
So that's absolutely gonna get a Good of the Week
on that.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
How wonderful.
Speaker 8 (37:23):
God's a great good, Patty all right, can't have the
good without the bad.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Var you got the bad this week.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Uh, this w NBA stuff is a mess man, and
it's bad to me. I mean, you got DJ and
a Carrington coming now saying white privilege posts weren't about
Sophie cutting Hound, but Nonetheless, it still was a post. Uh,
you got dudes talking about they you.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Know, that seems hard to refute based on the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
It's like.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
It just you know, it's just a lot of.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Just a lot of discord dysfunction to me with this
whole WNBA thing and and and it's it's almost it's
quickly becoming a mockery versus it being looked at as
as something that's real. And I think that kind of
stinks because in the nature of competing and doing things
(38:20):
and being a girl dad obviously that that matters being
around young girls that play sports. I just don't like
the goalpost continuing to be moved based around these, you know,
these scenarios that have nothing to do with the game
playing out off the court.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
It's my bad for the week, and from bad to worst, Brady,
you got the ugly well.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
A story that's still developing, but it is getting ugly,
and it's reaching all parts of the NFL with coaches,
executives and players who actually invested with this individual. But
the case of Mohammed Coulibalia, I believe is how it pronounced.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
It's bad.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, Well, we've got enough time to get over some.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Of the details, but I'm saying Bali sagned money from
a New York man who he had already owed a
million dollars, and he promised to Lamborghini to Gold Rolexes
and assigned Linnel Messi Cleat as collateral for a week
long loan loan, and he told the man the extra
money would make it possible to repay the original one
million dollar loan. Later that day, Drive arrived at the
(39:27):
band's house with two fake watches and an authenticated sign Cleat,
an insurance card and bill for the sale of car.
Then the man backed out of the loan. So at
the end of the day, the bottom line is cool,
Bali ended up dead in a pool, if I'm not mistaken.
So it's it's still a developing story. But there's a
(39:48):
lot of you know, the layers, secutives, coaches who he's
been tied to, he did some investments for, and I'm
not sure when the digging will stop. I know, your
guy Steve Kaim has been a been, you know, be
vocal about this and commented on it.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
So a lot of people brought into this. This is
going to be a deep pole.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
That's I mean, the guy is going into a deep
hoole Lorena that that's figurative in some ways, but it's
actually actually literal in another.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
What what what?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
What Q didn't maybe specify is isn't he unlive now?
The guy that that was doing all of the scamming,
he's on the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yes, I said he foun him.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Oh you did say he found talking to him?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
You did?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
You did say?
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Oh he was seeking he was seeking a seventy five
thousand over that particularly talk.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, oh not bad.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Okay, So that guys talk about this is this is
one of these crazy stories when you look at too
Big Tom who is being potentially alleged to be tied
to a corrupt cop to pen accent or innocent victim
from an Emmanuelacco story in his podcast, and Marcellus Wiley
has told this is coming up more and more as
(41:04):
players start to kind of out. I guess some of
the inner workings of the NFL behind some of these
crazy accidents that happened.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Wow, Marcellus was the ugly bad one too
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Checking things off on a home day, an hour two LeVar,
A lot to discuss, a lot to talk about in
regards to the NFL preseason training camp.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
A lot of things going on.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
The first thing else we're gonna look at that and
saying is and not every organization does this.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Not every organization gives the player the option to do
this or not. But Jordan Love the.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Starting quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. He will play
in the first preseason game. I'm not sure if that
makes you a little bit concern scared, but whatever I
see it nowadays, it feels like that is abnormal. Like
you don't see a lot of starters taking reps in
the preseason just feels like it's too big of a risk.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Do you have a problem with it, Like, if you're.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
A defensive player and you got to play, your quarterback doesn't,
or even if you don't have to play, is there
an itch to want to get out there and play
just so you can get some of those live reps going.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Man, I'm an old school que so this one, this
topic is always somewhat interesting to me if you're not
a Veta vets. Like again, I played with Bruce Smith
my first year. I played with Dion Sanders and Darryl
green All in my first season, mark career. Guys like
that that were older guys, if they're not playing because
(01:50):
you want to preserve them for the season and different
things like that.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I get it, but at some point you got to.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Understand that it is football and it is your job
and for what it's worth. From what it sounds like,
I haven't been to a training camp since I've retired,
but what it sounds like they don't even practice that hard,
so where you may say, oh, like they're getting good
(02:18):
reps and you know they're banging in practice and getting
right and callousing and heartening themselves up.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
For the season. It doesn't sound like that.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It sounds like tenderized type practices that are taking place.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And I'm not the old guy to sit there and.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Talk about this is how you have to do it,
because I didn't like banging all the time. I like
get my work in and then less I would have
rathered us spent more time going over the details of
the schemes and walking through the details of what the
offenses are doing. You know, what windows this quarterback or
(02:58):
what we should be preparing for for whatever that may be,
the progressions that this could be. It's a copycat league,
so if you're seeing past, you know, past concepts, chances
are you're going to see it from most all the
other teams. The same exact concept is just a matter
of who's coaching it, when they call it, and ultimately
(03:21):
the players that are running those those routes. But yeah,
you know, I'm not going to say I have a
problem with it. I mean, I just think it's a
tad bit overstated to be like, oh, we don't want
them to get hurt, like oh, he shouldn't get hurt,
or da da da, we don't want to risk their
health and this and that, well you know what, the
minute they go on the field for a regular season game,
(03:43):
it's the same exact scenario that's at play. And I
know they say, well, it's unnecessary risk the regular season,
it counts, but I don't want like, okay, so are
we going to play them limited during the regular season,
So try to make it to the playoffs. Make sure
that he's health and ready to go for the playoffs. Like,
why don't we do that with players on the regular season. Hey,
(04:04):
you know what, we got good, little decent, little game
going on here. Let's give our quarterback a break. Let's
put another one in. We don't want to make sure.
We want to make sure he doesn't get hurt or
get too many reps on his body or anything like that,
which wouldn't be a horrible idea, but at the end
of the day, that's not reality. So to me, I
think if you're preparing for the season, and having screened
(04:25):
some of my funnest games in high school, not college.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Not pros.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You don't have scrimmages in college because inner squad, but
you're doing pros this preseason. Some of my funnest games
in high school were the scrimmage games. I'm just being honest, like,
and I know that's you know, high school, but some
of my funnest games, and you get a feel for
where you're at, Like, I don't know about you, but
(04:50):
I don't feel like I was at the same exact
place physically mentally.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Every season a.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Season goes by, I felt like I was for the
for the longest time, I was better physically and I
was better mentally. Then I got to a point in
my career where I was just getting better mentally and
I had to do more to figure out what I
had going on because I wasn't getting better physically.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
That's kind of how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I think it's interesting too, though, as you look at
the kids coming from college now. I mean back when
we were there, the exhibition games, you know, they were
meaningful and you'd play them at a pride, you plan
them to win. And nowadays you get a lot of
guys who, when it comes time to the season, if
they don't make the.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Playoffs, they're out.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
And it feels like we're getting closer and closer to
a lot of players having I don't know, they're either
being used to or more adjusted to saying like, hey, man,
if this game doesn't count, Like what am I doing?
Why am I putting myself at it in harm's way
or injury risk? And because that's how it's happening in
college now you see a decent amount of this. I mean,
(06:00):
it's going to change now with the five for five
and so instead of a red shirt, they now just
have five years to play five. But there came a
point in time, and I'm sure you've heard stories like
this where guys will be like, no, I'm not burning
my red shirt. Like I will play up to that
point in the regular season where it's not going to
impact my ability to lose out on this potential year
(06:20):
that I can get back either here or somewhere else.
But if we make the playoff, those games don't count
against me. So I'll play then, But otherwise like, I'm
not doing it. So we're now getting to an era
where we've got players who came from high school to college,
college to the NFL and that's the only world they've
ever known was they're being compensated to go play football,
(06:42):
and if it doesn't count, they're not doing it. They're
not putting themselves in harm's way. Some guys, even if
they're not going to the NFL, they'll be going to
get surgery and so forth.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So I do wonder and then Jordan loves not in
that category.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
He's obviously old enough to be remember playing through you know,
bowl games, et cetera, where things you know, seem at
least at that point in time meaningful. But it does
seem like we're going to an era of like, if
we go to eighteen games, where do you think they're
going to take a game away?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
It's gonna be the preseason, and so we'll.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Probably get more scrimmages, we'll probably get more joint practices
and less preseason games because there's just not enough teams
that really value.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Whatever work is taking place.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
And to your point, you know, it's odd, like it's
only at the NFL level where you have a preseason
where you have games that don't really matter for anything.
You don't have it in high school, you don't have
it in college, And there is something to be said
about that, like it makes it difficult to prepare if
you don't have any sort of those live games scenarios.
(07:41):
You have scrimmages as we've talked about, which essentially replaces that.
But still, like there is something to be said for that.
So I just hope he stays healthy. I think he's
in for a potentially big year. I think the Green
Bay Packers are in for a big year, and you'd
hate to see anything.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Happen to him.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
If indeed, you know you're playing a meaningless preseason game
and there's those freak accidents that may take place from
time to time.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Next the thing, right, well, hold on, think about this,
think about this right. My last year of school in
ninety nine, we play Arizona for the first game of
the year, Arizona. We go out there and I leave
the game at halftime because I went into a full
body crant full body And the point of the story is, it's.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Like, if you look at it.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
And you say it doesn't mean anything, with the mindset
that the game doesn't mean anything, then you're not getting
something out of the game.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
I felt like, if you go into.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
A game, and this is what I always thought about
NFL preseason games, it's like, Okay, I know what it
feels like to play in a real game. For two series.
In the first game, it's a nice little start. Okay,
second game, I know what it feels like to play
The first quarter of the game and and maybe part
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of the second quarter feels pretty good.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Great third game.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I'm playing three quarters, like well, two quarters the first
half and that first series of that second half. So
I can feel what it feels like to come out
of the locker room and play in the third quarter,
how my body feels. I almost feel like it gives
you the opportunity without the game counting, getting your body
(09:31):
acclimated and ready to play for it. By the time
I got to Game one, I sat out there. Obviously,
the vets and and starters all sat out pretty much
the last the last game, which it used to be,
you know, used to be four preseason games. We would
sit out that last one, and then going into the
regular season, we were we felt like we were were
(09:52):
rested and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
To the game.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And I could play four quarters and I didn't come
up with cramps.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I I knew where my.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Body was at, and my body was acclimated to playing
quarters and coming out after halftime.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
So I would I would.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Say that if you have the games and they do matter,
have a game plan as to how you're approaching using
those games, because sometimes, I mean it's not sometimes if
you approach it. With the right mindset, you certainly can
use those games to the advantages that they're there for
if you're going to play in them at you know, regardless,
(10:31):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
It's funny now that I've gotten out owing away from
football and it kind of looked back on it. I've
actually always thought the preseason in some ways is more
beneficial for the front office and coaches than it is
for the players. And the reason why I say that
is because you get a better chance to evaluate your
guys their capabilities what they're going to do in a
live game scenario, because practice is very different than a game,
(10:55):
and when you're going up, as we've talked about the
score before, when you have script readers, guys who are
trying to read the script to see what the defense
is supposed to be doing, and then they will go
out there and act like they don't know, and they'll
try to you know, obviously, for quarterbacks in particular, put
the ball on a certain spot, or if they're a receiver,
they'll be like, well, it's cover three, so if I
have a rout adjustment, I know I'm supposed to do this.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Or if you're alignment, they're like, well, I know they're.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Blitzing on this play, so this is I mean, they
it gets to the point where there's a lot of
different positions try to benefit off reading what they're supposed
to see in practice, and so.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
When you get to a live game, you don't have
any of that.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And and there are some times in preseason where you
got some question marks about guys that could some guys
get answered in those moments.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And there's also some guys who start good practice players.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
You know, there's guys I can think of in the
back of my head that you know, you would see
and go, man, they can't figure out practice, but they
get to a game and it's just a whole world.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Like, yeah, well that look crazy in practice and can't
get it into game.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I remember when I was in Seattle went one preseason
we had a receiver who was incredible.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I mean, every single time he'd.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Be one and one on a go route, we were
like mandated in the quarterback room to take a shot.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Because he was that. He was that big of a
big play receiver.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And then we get through the regular season, couldn't stay healthy,
couldn't have the same impact. You know, you're getting you know,
schemed up game plan against that.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You know, in part, you can't be a one trick pony.
But at the same time, there is other elements to
you know, him that we're kind of lacking in that regard.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But I digress.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I sometimes think it's more for coaching than it is
for really the players. Because the players take on all
the risks, the coaches are the ones that are find
out the most and they're figuring out scheme wise, personnel wise,
what they could do. So I'll be like I said,
just hope that he stays healthy. Hope nothing happens, because
that could dramatically derail their season. And remember you know
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where you know, Jordan Love kind of left off at times,
Leek Willis was able to come in and help out,
and they don't have that anymore. You know, he's down
in Miami, So that becomes then a question mark. Something
that's not a question mark is Jalen Hurt's ability to
win games. But what has been a question mark for
the Philadelphia Eagles has been their offense.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And obviously it's been a bit of an up and down.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Especially through the years, with different coordinators calling plays. This year,
they get a new offensive coordinator Sean Manyon his first
time ever calling plays in the NFL. But it's not
so much man, you don't want to talk about. It's
Jalen Hurts and how he's impressed his teammates. He dropped
ten pounds and from all accounts, he is looking faster.
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He's looking as good as he's ever looked.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And if you don't trust me, just listen to Jalen Carter.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
He rolls out and I'm chasing down a couple of
times where he'd be moving right.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I don't know what it is, but when I'm watching them,
I'm running as like a movie.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I feel like I'm going slow.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
But he he be moving.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Man, he's been working parts one.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
So this is where I kind of look at it
and say, all right, last year kind of down here
for the offense, and this is one of those years
they bring in another offensive coordinator and Hurts looks like
he's in mint shape. Do you have high expectations for
these us? I know we talked about Dallas yesterday. You
think that's the team of the division. That doesn't mean
this can't be a playoff team. That doesn't mean this
isn't a team that can't go on a run with
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the personnel and how good that roster is.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I do think they can be a good team. They
have a lot of the elements that they need. I
do not think that they are This is just me.
I just don't think they're solidified at the receivers position.
I know some of the names are names, they're recognizable names.
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I just don't think that they're the guy. I don't
think any of those guys are the guy.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And so.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yes, I think they can be good, but Jalen Hurts
is going to have to be exceptional. And the offense
is once again this new offensive coordinator. Look at the
year they had when they won the Super Bowl. The
offense has to go through Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
It has to.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You gotta hope that, you know, the line of scrimmage
holds up, that they're seemingly healthy. I heard there's a
little center that's in camp that's that's doing pretty well.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
He's popping out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Uh. But you gotta hope that that massive offensive line
is able to hold up and do the things that
they've done in the past. You gotta hope that that
Saquon has a bounce back year. And if they're able
to do that on defense, they'll be fine. They'll be
just fine on defense, But can their offense produce and
(15:39):
can Saquon take the pressure off of Jalen Hurts to
have to do it in the air, because really, if
we really think about it, I don't know that Jalen
Hurts has ever really done it on an entire regular season,
entire season basis of getting it done solely.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Through the air. It has to be through something else.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And so to me, I look at it as, yes,
they are a top team, and they should be the
team to to look at as the favorite just off
of track record. But I just think that that whole dynamic.
I think George Pickens being in his second season with
Dallas and those two studs out on the outside is
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as long as as Dak Prescott is what he needs
to be in this offense. I'm excited to see what
their defense is capable of doing. But again, I think
they're scary. That's just I'll say the Eagles are the
expected team, the Cowboys are the scary team, and I.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Can see that.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I mean, I still think this is one of the
best rosters in the NFL. This team he knows how
to win. This team knows how to win. It's a
scary sign if you or getting him back involved in
the run game. I know you said everything goes through Saquon,
but you know, also as a defender, if your quarterback
is capable of running the football for anywhere from four hundred,
five hundred to eight hundred yards a season, that puts
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a lot of pressure on the defense too to account
for him. And that's where you know, I don't think
his style of play is ever going to be like
a Drew Brees where he's throwing for over five thousand
yards and he did that four or five times whatever
it was in his career.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's just not his style. It was never his style.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
You know, his high water mark in college was his
final year with Oklahoma, and that was in a system
with Lincoln Riley that was much more conducive to you know,
stretching the field vertically, but also in a big twelve
that didn't have as good a defense back then.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
So when I look.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
At what he's been able to do so far in
the NFL, I think there's times that he gets a
lot of criticism and I don't know how warranted it is.
You know, I'm not in that locker room, so I
don't know if it's personality driven and how maybe he is,
or if it's more of a lack of consistency with
where his passing is. It's hard to do that when
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you've got different coordinators every single year. I mean, we've
gone through it. I mean I think for the last
five years, he's got a different guy calling plays. And
the tough part for that is it's that's not all
on him. Like oftentimes, when you're with a coordinator who's
never called plays before at the NFL level, they're trying
to figure out what their identity is as a play caller.
(18:24):
You know, how are they going to respond when you
go out there and throw a pick? Are they going
to stay with the plan? Are they gonna be like, ah, man,
it's one of those days he's not playing well, I
gotta gotta run the ball now. We got to do this,
or we get a simplify like there are there are
coordinators who lose faith in a quarterback in a moment's notice.
It doesn't take much. And there's some that stay the course.
(18:44):
They're like, we have a good plan. I trust that
that's an outlier, and I trust that he's going to respond.
So when you don't have that, or you have a
guy who doesn't have that experience to actually call plays
that way, it makes it difficult. So I would say this,
I think it's a dangerous sign if you've got a
guy who is able to hurt you with his legs,
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but also is with a coordinator that from all reports,
everyone seems to be extremely pressed by Sean Manyon. And
I guess if we're looking at history and it tends
to repeat itself, if last year is a down year,
then this year is an up year, because that's the
pattern that the Philadelphia Eagles have basically followed throughout the
course of Jalen Hurts time with the Eagles. Last thing
up and this was more just an interesting note that
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you don't typically hear in training camp. Going through some
of the news and notes around the NFL. Rachie Rice,
the receiver for the Kansas City Chiefs, talked about, you know,
what he's experienced this summer and maybe some learning lessons
while he had let's just say some time off.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
I'm one hundred percent locked in on what's going on
now with the team ready to go out there and dominate,
and that I got a good group of brothers, like
brotherhood behind me. I learned and experience are reality checking.
Don't focus on the past, focus on what's going on now,
all right, So.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I guess he needs to do that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Focus on Yeah, I would hope that being in jail
would be a learning experience for anyone.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That would be my hope.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, And remember what that felt like. You know how
they stay when you want something big or you lost
something big. Remember what it felt like it feels like.
Remember that feeling because you it's either a feeling that
you never want to feel again from these the loss,
the losing of it, or the total you know, just
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jubulation and excitement you feel in the moment of triumph.
You remember those moments. And if I'm if I'm rice,
I don't want to uh, I don't want to forget
what it felt like when I did the things that
led to me being in a situation that he was in.
And in fact, if he was in a Nissan Frontier,
which I respect pickups big time that are built to be,
(21:00):
you know, do the job with no fuss, he wouldn't
have had no situation where he had to get out
of the vehicle on the freeway and flee the scene
of the situation, because well, he'd have been driving a suv,
a pickup that does what it needs to do, and
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Speaker 3 (21:33):
I just wonder how many more opportunities he will get.
It seems like he's gotten plenty of opportunities with the
Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
They seem to be.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Very high on him, very bullish on what he's capable
of as a player, and I think you've seen flashes
of it throughout the course of his career. But this
is also a Kansasity chief seems that was underwhelming last
year and really the past couple of years their offense.
I'm not trying to point the finger at him, but
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when you're drafted to come in and be one of
those guys or the star receivers, and they've had some
other guys they've been able to bring on this team.
They've they've drafted, well, developed well. He seems to be
one of the exceptions. And I'm not sure it's stubbornness
of the coaching staff or the front office, but whether
it's you know, you know what we'll call injury or
off the field issues, he just seems like a guy
(22:23):
that they want to stick with. And I don't know
how many more chances he will get. Like it feels
like if it's me and I was evaluating this roster,
this would be one of the last years where I
would be giving him saying, let's see what you're capable of.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Let's see where this year goes.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
But after that, we have to really start thinking long
and hard about finding someone that we feel more confident
in being able to be here on a consistent basis
and producing.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Because he hasn't been that.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
So I know he'd maybe some you know, someone out
there's favorite player, but you know, for me, I think
he's got to prove.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
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Speaker 2 (25:10):
Get in right now?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Minimum five hundred up more higher, dang, minimum eight hundred.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Dollars keep going up, my friend.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Dang, I'm going to say one dollar.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That would be down. So it's two thousand.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Dollars is what it's going to cost price on James
and what some.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Believe to be that maybe in the final season, maybe
maybe not.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Either way, that's the get in ticket costs right now
at Madison Square Gardens. So I don't know about you,
it's a great matchup right New York Philly Brunson Lebron.
Granted there's a lot of other great players that are
on the sixers as well. But I look at it
to say to myself like, really, I mean, look, here's
(26:12):
my secret to all those who want to get into
that game. Okay, if you want to overspend on that ticket,
go ahead, lock in your purchase. Do it now, give
yourself the peace of mind that you will be able
to go witness what could be the end of Lebron's career. Again,
we'll see what happens after the season.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But go do it.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Go spend the money if you've got the money, or
even if you don't, you want to, and it's your life, man, yolo.
But the reality is, if you've ever followed all the
stuff that's gone on around stub Hub and their CEO,
Eric Baker, who's he's facing a class action lawsuit and
a lot of public scrutiny after there's been investigations linked
to him with this large scale take a reselling financing operation.
(26:53):
So he's got stub Hub that he's the head of.
Then he has Andro Capital, which allegedly was trading heavily
on this platform. You know, he was trading heavily on
this platform, reselling and financing for tickets. So it's a
little bit incessual, which you know shouldn't be something that
can happen. Even though we were led to believe it
(27:15):
was a neutral marketplace, it's not. So if you want
to go pay a premium, go ahead. Otherwise, just wait
till last second, you know, like you'll find a ticket
the last second. Those prices will drop, they'll come down.
It's like spoiled milk. They got to get rid of it.
So if you have the flexibility and you think you're
gonna be in New York at that time, I'm just saying,
wait till the last second, maybe even after tip Like,
(27:37):
does it really matter. Does anyone on Instagram actually see
if they're there for tip off or not? You know,
you mightily a ticket there for the second core. Hey,
all I'm saying is don't waste all your money, all right,
First off, we don't even if Lebron's gonna be done
this season. Second is it's all scam. The whole thing's
a scam, So don't waste your money on that. That's
(27:59):
my advice. Hm hmmm, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I think having the opportunity to go see Lebron play,
and this being his foreseeable last last season, I think
that there's some I said it to you when we
were talking about where would he end up as as
a pro, that he's going to impact the economics of
(28:24):
the game wherever it is that he goes, and that's
going to be ticket sales, that's going to be Jersey sales,
whatever it may be. He's going to get. He's it's
it's going to happen. It's going to happen because it's
Lebron James and and so.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You know, I.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Would say, if you're going to spend the money because
you feel like this is this is that once in
a lifetime opportunity to go see him play before he's done,
then maybe the ticket is worth that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Maybe it is. It ain't worth the to me though,
because there's another thing. You're not factoring him. We all
assume he would be healthy for this.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Obviously, he's up there in age, there's always the chance
he could tweak something or be it injured. And that's
not to include the fact of load management, which he
only played sixty games last year, So you know he's
gonna miss a court of the games one in four games.
You know, is this one of those games he has
scheduled as load management. Is this one of those games
that he just happens to miss because of some calf tightness, soreness, whatever.
(29:30):
So that's another reason why I feel like it's too
much of a risk for me to want to even
look at and pay those prices. I think this makes
for a great story as the game gets closer. I
wouldn't be shocked if the take A price doesn't fall dramatically.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Another thing I was gonna.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Say is when I saw this, I thought to myself,
all Right, I grew up not liking Michael Jordan because
I was a Cleveland Cavalier fan, but I still could
appreciate his greatness and how good he was. So when
I would have the chance to go watch him when
he crushed my dreams as a young kid in Ohio,
(30:02):
I still could appreciate that. Now, if you would have
asked me to go watch him when he was with
the Washington Wizards, I probably would have said, yeah, I'm good,
Like I don't need to see that version of him.
Is this version of him worth it in your mind?
Because not only is there the percentage chance that he
doesn't play at all, but also you're not getting the
same player that you once did. Like I remember being
(30:25):
there for the Cavaliers Spurs final where yes they got swept.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
But he was incredible.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
The way he led that team to the finals that year,
in my opinion, was his greatest accomplishment ever because you
go back and look at that team, that team was
the furthest thing ever from being a team that probably
should have been playing in an NBA finals, And then
every subsequent team that he made it to the finals
with was way ahead, way more talented, and you could
(30:55):
even say deeper in some ways than that team. So
I look at this version of him after seeing Lebron
when he first got in the league and really through
those prime years, and say, even when I saw me
in Miami.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Like, this is not that version of him.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I just I don't know that I'm walking away thinking like, yeah,
I want to see the end.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Most people they'd rather not see the end.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
That's why you got some close caskets. That's why some
people like being cremated. Like, I'm not trying to make
that comparison necessarily. I'm just saying, like, it's not as
fun at the end when you're watching an aging player.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's just not It's not what it used to be.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I'll say this, It's funny that you use Jordan as
an example, because I I got court sad seats for
the entire season to watch Michael Jordan play as a
Washington Wizard. And I gotta be honest with you, at
(31:50):
I I enjoyed it. I thought it was super entertaining
to watch Michael Jordan play as as a Washington Wizard.
And for no other reason, I knew I wasn't getting
I wasn't getting Chicago Mike. I knew I wasn't getting
Chicago Mike. But I got our DC Mike, and I
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was able to take in and and enjoy watching, uh,
watching him play.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
You know.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
And I don't know, man, I just.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I get what you're saying, and and I think there's
there's some merits to or some validity to the idea
of you know, sometimes when the milk goes bad, the
milk is gone bad.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
And when the when the well is run dry, it's
run dry. I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
But there's just certain guys that are generational guys, and
Lebron James is one of them, and you know people
are going to spend that type of cash to go
check him out.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I get it, but don't tell me the folks who
are like, you know, Willie Nelson or whoever else you know,
Ringo Star, other guys out there who are.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Still still playing.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
So I'm Mick Jagger, Bob Dylan Palmer, some of these
guys that are still out there on tour.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You see the videos of it and.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
You're going, oh man oo they yeah, oo ooh, that's
not what it.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
That's not as fun as they used to be.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
And again, like Lebron's still playing at a high level
when he's out there, it's just there's a good chance,
you know, twenty five percent chance he's not gonna be
out there, and maybe even higher than that going into
this show, Like, I don't know what that.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Number is going to be.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I'm just basing this off of, you know, really what
last season looked like and if we're being real with ourselves.
He's only played like over seventy games once since God
twenty seventeen. If I'm not mistaken, I remember seeing that
stat somewhere. I mean, I think one of the years
he got he hit seventy with the Lakers. Maybe it
(33:47):
was a couple of years ago now, but it's not
like he's playing eighty two. Like, let's be real about that.
He's had seasons where he's only played forty five. He's
had seasons where he's played fifty five. Like there's been
some years where it's been cut down something that was COVID,
but there's been some seasons that he hasn't played quite
as much. And that's one of the risks that you
have too when you're trying to go see him. He's
(34:09):
not playing all eighty two. So if you think you're
buying those season tickets, all right, I've got the what
forty one home games, and I'm excited to see him.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
He ain't playing that many times.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Man, you've got at least ten of those home games,
he's probably not going to be playing or starting. You're
just talking to him on the bench, taking pictures of
him on the bench, and street close just saying man's
I get what you're saying, But at the same time,
that's way too much money to spend on a Madison
Square Garden game. As cool as that venue is, there's
just no guarantee that he's actually going to be there.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
And you're not wrong.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I just don't. I'm not going to judge Lebron. I'm
not going to judge to people who want to see
Lebron James play.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
I'm just not I'm not judging him.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I'm just saying, don't waste your money. You know, Like
I said, if you really want to go, just wait,
just wait. You got to get the ticket and stuff
and all that, but just wait. I promise you there
will be some people there who are trying to scam
you that once that game tips off, man telling you
it's gonna be a little different, and then that price
drops dramatically. All right, So don't let Eric Baker and
(35:16):
some of these other scam artists get you out there,
all right, come up next to you on two Pros
and a Cup of Joe. We've got the good, the bad,
and the ugly.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
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Speaker 6 (36:02):
All right, that's how are some good things that happen,
and there's some bad and then there's some downright ugly things.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
It's time for good, bad and ugly.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Wall my sheriff sweek up. You've got to take part
though today with mister Knox being out. So how do
you want to divide this thing up? If you're going
to be part of this, should we have Loraina do
the duties?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Well, Constable?
Speaker 8 (36:28):
Well, boys, we got the good, the bad, and the ugly,
and today it would normally be mister Jonas Knox doing
the good.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Would be but he's out.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
So Patty, mister sweets how to shoot from the hip,
give us the good.
Speaker 9 (36:44):
Shooting it our draw partners. I'm the good of the
week this week. And my good of the week, guys,
is hard Knocks. I got to watch the Seahawks doing
hard knocks. In fact, this is the first time I've
actually ever watched hard knocks, like, you know, actually seriously
in my life. And of course it's for my team,
but this is my good of the week. I thought
it was really fun. It was engaging. You got to
(37:05):
see an in depth analysis, just kind of like how
my team, you know, looks at camp and just see
you know, Mike McDonald some of the other players and
just the character of him. And honestly, it felt really
cool and I had a lot of fun watching that.
So that's absolutely gonna get a Good of the Week
on that.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
How wonderful.
Speaker 8 (37:23):
God's a great good, Patty all right, can't have the
good without the bad.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Var you got the bad this week.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Uh, this w NBA stuff is a mess man, and
it's bad to me. I mean, you got DJ and
a Carrington coming now saying white privilege posts weren't about
Sophie cutting Hound, but Nonetheless, it still was a post. Uh,
you got dudes talking about they you.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Know, that seems hard to refute based on the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
It's like.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
It just you know, it's just a lot of.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Just a lot of discord dysfunction to me with this
whole WNBA thing and and and it's it's almost it's
quickly becoming a mockery versus it being looked at as
as something that's real. And I think that kind of
stinks because in the nature of competing and doing things
(38:20):
and being a girl dad obviously that that matters being
around young girls that play sports. I just don't like
the goalpost continuing to be moved based around these, you know,
these scenarios that have nothing to do with the game
playing out off the court.
Speaker 8 (38:40):
It's my bad for the week, and from bad to worst, Brady,
you got the ugly well.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
A story that's still developing, but it is getting ugly,
and it's reaching all parts of the NFL with coaches,
executives and players who actually invested with this individual. But
the case of Mohammed Coulibalia, I believe is how it pronounced.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
It's bad.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, Well, we've got enough time to get over some.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Of the details, but I'm saying Bali sagned money from
a New York man who he had already owed a
million dollars, and he promised to Lamborghini to Gold Rolexes
and assigned Linnel Messi Cleat as collateral for a week
long loan loan, and he told the man the extra
money would make it possible to repay the original one
million dollar loan. Later that day, Drive arrived at the
(39:27):
band's house with two fake watches and an authenticated sign Cleat,
an insurance card and bill for the sale of car.
Then the man backed out of the loan. So at
the end of the day, the bottom line is cool,
Bali ended up dead in a pool, if I'm not mistaken.
So it's it's still a developing story. But there's a
(39:48):
lot of you know, the layers, secutives, coaches who he's
been tied to, he did some investments for, and I'm
not sure when the digging will stop. I know, your
guy Steve Kaim has been a been, you know, be
vocal about this and commented on it.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
So a lot of people brought into this. This is
going to be a deep pole.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
That's I mean, the guy is going into a deep
hoole Lorena that that's figurative in some ways, but it's
actually actually literal in another.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
What what what?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
What Q didn't maybe specify is isn't he unlive now?
The guy that that was doing all of the scamming,
he's on the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yes, I said he foun him.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Oh you did say he found talking to him?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
You did?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
You did say?
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Oh he was seeking he was seeking a seventy five
thousand over that particularly talk.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, oh not bad.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Okay, So that guys talk about this is this is
one of these crazy stories when you look at too
Big Tom who is being potentially alleged to be tied
to a corrupt cop to pen accent or innocent victim
from an Emmanuelacco story in his podcast, and Marcellus Wiley
has told this is coming up more and more as
(41:04):
players start to kind of out. I guess some of
the inner workings of the NFL behind some of these
crazy accidents that happened.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Wow, Marcellus was the ugly bad one too
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