December 29, 2022 • 39 mins
Mike McDaniel deserves a lot of credit for recognizing concussion symptoms with Tua but a tougher decision needs to be made to sit him for the season. Senior NFL Reporter for The MMQB, Albert Breer explains how Derek Carr has a month head start on other QB's this offseason, he lays out the pluses and minuses for working with Russell Wilson, forecasts the future for Sean Payton and gives an update on the bidding for the Commanders. Plus a look ahead to the weekend including the College Football Playoff with Picks Against the Spread.
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The way tire buying should be so one more time,
like I'm I shouldn't hate it. Hit my quota. Come on,
hit me one more time. Yeah, back to they harmonized there.
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That was good. That was a good one. All right,
come on Brady here here now, the hooks up man
is not throwing peer pressure just because he's just trying
to be the puppet master on the show. That's it's
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not true. That's not true. I think there's a lot
of people who would really really get fired up heading
into work here and you drop a yeah to start
out the hour. Um, okay, Lee wasn't good. I mean,
it isn't a lie for for for what it's worth.
I mean, people would get a kick out of here
and Brady do it. But that's that's not gonna yeah,
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just letter believe they would. By the way, the Miami Dolphins,
the Miami Dolphins have made a decision not the most
surprising storyline here based on the recent events of twa
Taka Byloa and the concussion Protocol, etcetera, etcetera. And this
is the second known time he's at a concussion this season.
But Mike McDaniel made the announcement that there will be
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a new starting quarterback this week for the Dolphins. Here
was the Dolphins head coach. The whole idea of taking
day to day is kind of rough on coaches who
have to plan for you know, a bunch of people.
So the approach that I'm unequivocally taken today. You know,
I was on the phone, I met with him yesterday.
I met with Teddy yesterday. I was exchanging ideas and
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talking through some stuff all the way until like ten
fifteen last night. Um, there was his bedtime and so
moving forward today and you know the whole team's approaches, Uh,
Teddy Bridgewater is the starter. So there it is. Teddy
Bridgewater will start for the Dolphins with uh this bit. Uh,
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we just exchanged ideas and unequivocally we came to looking
glee and come on, it just gets me every time.
That's that's hipster laning. That's hipster lingo. Man. I could
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guarantee you if we asked him offline, bro, are you
a hipster? I could guarantee you his answer be yes,
you think someday, coach, but I'm a hipster First, I
don't think hipsters can be football coaches, football players, you
think so. I think McVeigh is a hipsters a hips
and I mean he's, you know, maybe a little fashion forward.
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I don't know if he's a hipster though. When I
think hipster, I think beanie, I think Doc Martin boots,
I think you know, flannels. Yeah, maybe he might might
throw that in there too. It makes you a hipster, no, no, no,
but it can be a part of your attire. You
can you can be a hipster with some Lulu lemons on.
You could get away with it. That's not that's not
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all the way down the lane of hipster. But you know,
it's there's a look, there's definitely, I mean hipster is
a look. I mean some would say Robert Salo's got
a hipster to him because he wears that long bean
She only coach in the league that wears a long beanie,
like one of those slouch beanies, as opposed to just
the old school hipster. Just saying, if we're talking fashion,
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this is the important stuff. We gotta break down here,
right though. I don't I don't want to discredit your
your claim. But Mike McDaniel and and and and while
we're on the conversation point right, I mean, could they
have done anything differently? I mean, honestly, what with to
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a situation are you like, if you play him? What
what are you know? What are the ramifications you know,
taking that chance? And maybe maybe you shouldn't have to
take these things into consideration. Maybe in a perfect world
you can say, all right, you know, he's clear to play,
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he's clear protocols, so if if we need them, we're
going to use them. Like we're going to clear him
to play, we're gonna play him. But I just get
the feeling that the pressure would be overwhelmingly uncomfortable, and
and the scrutiny and and the backlash of him playing
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based off of having his second concussion probably holds more
weight than playing him even if he were clear to play. Yeah,
they're in a tough spot. And and I don't know,
I mean, like the idea and also you get the
NFL p A is going to look into the handling
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of this, And it just goes back to what we've
talked about before. If to us says he's fine and
he's not showing symptoms during the game, what are they
supposed to do like. I don't like. I don't understand
why why they should be held accountable. It's like you had,
you had the outrage the first time around where they
had to fire the independent neurologists or whatever. That guy's
responsibility was, well, here we are again, and he went
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out and he finished the game, supposedly after he suffered
this concussion, but nobody knew anything. Like, they weren't talking
about it during the broadcast. They weren't. So the the
idea that the Dolphins should be be responsible and held
accountable if this stuff happens. I just I don't understand that.
I don't I don't get how that works. You know,
Mike McDaniel should get a lot more credit for being
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the one to catch it. He's the one that reportedly
told to would go see a doctor. They're in a
in a film session together on Monday, and based on
to his responses to him, he said, this is not
normal protocol. Usually, he's he's better working through this talking
about this. You need to go see someone. Something sums off.
So it's good that at least Mike McDaniel was able
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to identify it. I know a lot of people weren't,
you know, happy with with how things went down previously.
Obviously the independent neurologist sends up taking the fall for
everyone there, but he does care. He obviously trying to
look out for the best interest of two and it's
it's why they've thrown the towel on this week's game.
Now next week is really really gets interesting because there's
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a chance to is cleared. And I think the question
would be, since this is his second concussion, some would
say it's his third, right because everyone thought the week
before the the initial concussion took place, he got concussed, right,
and that's what led to the outrage in the following
week's game where he got knocked out. So some would
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say he's already had you know, three this year based
on the one that wasn't diagnosed, or you know he
ended up playing after and now he's gotten too. So
what happens if you have another next week, if he's
clear to play, Like that's that's the slippery slope that
we're on here. You're talking about a player that could
end up maybe you know, deciding that in the off
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season or depending on how things go, like this isn't
worth it. It's not worth all these head injuries for
my long term life down the road. Um, I mean
there could even be an issue in moving forward. The
team can't commit to him. And this isn't a sound crude,
but the reality is, if he gets one more, maybe
he is done, you know, for the rest of his career.
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So it's a hard spot for all parties to be in,
and it's hard for players because you know you've got
a warrior mentality out there, and as a leader, you
want to be out there. He wants to be out there.
I mean, he wants This is as good a football
as to has played in his NFL career. He's now
got the chance potentially go to the playoffs, and he's
got a coach that loves him and has helped. I mean,
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you don't think he wants to start and play for
this team and you're the thing he loves. Like people
think it's an easy decision. It's not like you try
to play through other injuries all the time, and so
mentally you're thinking, I can play through this too. Even
though it is interesting if you go back and and
I guess the supposed play that caused the concussion, there
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is a significant drop off in his play from that
point moving forward in the game. So take that for
what it's worth in regards to last week's performance. But
I just, you know, I think there's a lot on
the line for him personally, for the franchise, everything else
beyond just this season's you know, goal of getting the
playoffs and trying to make a run. And there's also,
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like people forget that the injury he suffered at Alabama,
the hip issue, there was some talk that his career
could have been done then, like there was no guarantee
he was going to be able to come back because
of the significance of the injury. So then he works
and works himself back, he becomes a starting quarterback, he's
a top five pick, and then he's got a coach
who basically airs him out in Brian Flores. Finally he
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gets somebody who rallies around him. They add pieces around him. Hell, yes,
he wants to be out there. That's that's why he
hasn't self reported during these games when when when he
probably should have spoken up and said, hey, there's something
going on here. So I just I feel like the
Dolphins are kind of in this tough spot because you know,
he wants to be out there. And he wants to play,
and he's already made that choice and come to that
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understanding as a player. But it was in the tougher
spot to or Miami. I think I think t is
because know this decision, Like if he makes the decision
to say, like, I can't come back and play this
year because of my my personal health, my long term health,
I feel like he's gonna feel like everyone's gonna hate him.
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And you know how it is to when you're out
with an injury, like no one cares, no one has
to be around you, like everyone's moving on the next guy,
and it's just it's a tough spot to being personally,
especially if you know they feel like, hey, look, if
you feel like you can go, go, Like I feel
like he's in a tough spot because he might have
to weigh his potential personal well being over the well
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being of the team, since, at least based on how
things have worked out this season, when he's the starter,
they have a chance of winning. Their offense is entirely different.
You guys would know this better than I would. If
is he more likely to suffer another concussion if he
comes back next week or Okay, so then he should
probably sit out the rest of the year. Yeah, I
mean that that's that's one of the reasons why you
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look at why he's able to suffer concussion this past week.
You're more susceptible to it. Once you have one, you're
more susceptible to it, especially in that short time frame.
I think he's a sympathetic figure. So if he sits
out the rest of the season, I think it's more
he's more in jeopardy of of losing his his job
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as as a quarterback, because I don't know that for
the sake of caring about him as a person, that
you want to go that direction again during the course
of an entire season. I'll just say, do you do
you feel like he's in jeopardy regardless? Yes, And and
this makes it even It jeopardizes him way way more
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because now you're not talking about the merits of his game.
You're talking about if if I can live with myself
if this guy goes out here and gets hit and
it messes him up for the rest of his life, Well,
that's something you got to take into consideration. You ask
me that question, do you feel like the organizations in
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a tougher spot for that predicament because if they put
them out there and it happens, it's on their watch,
I think they're I think they're in a tougher predicament
because sometimes you have to protect a guy from themselves.
And and like you know, Jonas was saying like he
didn't want to report it, he was ready to play,
he wanted to play. Well, what does that look like
if he gets out there, he cleared protocol and he
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gets out there and it's worse than the one we
saw that that showed up the first time. You know,
I just think that that puts Mike McDaniel and in
a tough situation and probably the toughest for him. It's
probably the toughest for him because you're you, you have
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an opportunity to have a good year um and and
continue it on and and at the same time, you
know the severity of what could happen after having suffrage
your second concussion, and that's the second concussion that we're
speaking of Q. You know, you know for that it
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ain't too it's not two. There's there's there have been
more scenarios play out with him than just the two
that we know about. So and whether it's all the
way concussion or whatever it is, you can just tell like, like,
that's not normal to hear hear somebody say he had
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to report him or tell him to go see somebody
because of the way he's reacting in meetings. That's not good.
That's not good. That's not everyday lingo. You know, I
could see a guy limping around and be like, bro,
like go get that checked out. What is it hang
now or what like? That's different. You see guy limping around,
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that's different. But when you're talking about I can noticeably
tell that you need to go get checked out. Mentally,
that ain't good, man, That just ain't That doesn't sit well.
And that's a that is a that is a true
dilemma because where does science of you clearing protocol versus
you taking a humanistic approach to how you you because
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sometimes you gotta protect your guys. Where is the fine
line he wanted to play he cleared protocol, we're playing
a boom. Now he's laying on the ground and he
ain't getting up. Imagine that playing out. Yeah, I think
that's pretty that's a pretty compromising position of being and
I I just don't think I would be willing to
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take that risk. I look at too and be like, Bro,
you're a sympathetic figure. People love you. Let's just get
to the offseason. Let's let's get you as health as
we possibly can with how you're feeling, get a plan
moving forward, and and hope for the best. But just know,
another concussion on my watch, I can't play you, Doc.
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Yeah that's next season two. I think I just can't
play you. That means the last two times, if the
Dolphins werena make the playoffs, that that back up quarterback
starting in the walk cart round. Yeah, I remember the
last one to Matt Moore. He got annilated. Like this
organization short term with concussions, he always got decapitated. Did
he finish that game? By the way he came back
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in that was Jesus Man for people he and he
By the way he looked concussed, that was one remember
he was. I mean, there was some bad play down
the stretch here like that, dude doesn't look right. For
anybody who thinks the NFL still has a long way
to go with their concussion handling, go back to that
game and asked yourself, why was Matt Moore still in
the game, Like, why did he Why was he that
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was against Pittsburgh. Yeah, he got destroyed. I've got it
Forgid Drill bail it. Oh you know who it was.
It was bud Dupree. I think it was bud Dupree,
wasn't it? God? That's yeah, he got destroyed. I was
gonna go carn L Lake. But again just talking, you know,
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just four one two here, Vin, we're doing here. Earl Holmes.
Earl Holmes got him. Yeah, that was it. It's uh.
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twenty minutes from now. But right now we turn it
over to the man himself, Albert Brier, senior NFL reporter
at the MMQB. You can also get him on Twitter
at Albert Brier Albert Daffy Thursday to you, hope all
as well. I'm good, I'm good. How you got Joan?
You're good? Just hanging out, man. What's your Christmas? Albert? Yeah?
Come on, well I was good. It was good. It
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was good. I got the kids up. Let's get the
PlayStation five. So, uh, I got to be fifteen years
old again, which was cool. And yeah, so you really
got it for you kind of Well, I mean, I
I I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say that. I uh,
you know, I'm excited to get my kids n c
A when that comes out again, you know, and it's
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excited to get the Madden and yeah, yeah, I uh,
I think I think there was a great gift for them, Brady.
So I got I got a question for you if
you're if you start playing Madden next year, what team
is Derek are going to be on? Well, first of all,
Madden is really freaking complicated now, um, it is not
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the same as it was and Uh, guys, I think,
like the this is sort of been in the works
for a while, um, and I think what's interesting about
where this goes next is just a number of quarterbacks
that they're gonna be available, you know. And you know,
I think Jimmy Garoppolo is another one where, um, you know,
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you can try both those guys to the Jets. Both
those guys have experience in the background in the system
the Jets run. Um, you know, Jimmy obviously could wind
up going to the Raiders, and so you know, I
I think right now, um, you're starting to see where
we're gonna have a fair amount of quarterback movement in general. Again.
And so um, the upside for Derek Carr here is
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that he's going to get a jump on the market
because of the way his contract is structured. Um that
you know that that that money, that forty four million
dollars vests in the middle of February, three days after
the Super Bowl. So Derek Carr is essentially gonna get
a one month head start on everybody. So if you're
a team like the Jets, you know, and you're saying,
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we got to bring in competition for Zach Wilson or
we gotta replace Zack Wilson. Do you take the burden
to hand over to the bush? You know? Do you
take Derek carr um in February so you know who
you've got and you can go forward and build with them,
or do you wait for Jimmy Garoppolo in March? You know?
I think that that's what's interesting about it, is that
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Derek Carr's gonna have a one month head start on
everybody on the quarterback market. Do you think more quarterbacks
should put that in their contract? The timing of it,
it seems like it's it's a little bit of maybe obviously,
as you said, it like an advantage to get on
the market, but it seems it's just a smart move
in general for both the player and the team to
be able to find more clarity this time of year
where you can say, hey, we don't want the guy
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to get hurt and have to own him that money,
and obviously if you're gonna move on, might as well
move on and figure out the destination for him, and
who's the right guy for us? Yeah, Brady, I think
it'd be optable for any player, honestly. I mean, and
we've seen the late chargers before too, right, Like if
you guys remember Colin Kaepernick had I think they were
April triggers in his contract, where like the Niners could
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literally like wait the quarterback market out through March, see
what they might have, and then make a later decision
on Colin Kaepernick. So these things have been sort of
elements and contracts for a while. Um And I think
for Derek Carr, a huge part of it was, well,
if you're not going to guarantee me the money, then
you at least need to let me know early on.
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So when they did it, it was sort of a compromise,
you know, where um, you know, I think the Raiders,
you know, from an office basically said well, because of
our cash flow issues, we don't want to have to
fund fifty or sixty million dollars, and you know, Carside
came back and said, well, if we're going to expose
ourselves to that sort of risk where you're not going
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to guarantee anything past year one and you're gonna give
yourself the out, well then you gotta let us know
ahead of time. So that's sort of how that one
worked out, rightly, where it was you know, compromising the
fully guaranteed money. And if you're gonna make us do that,
then you've got to give us an easier path to
the market. So I'm sure if you if you're wanting
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the clock back, um, you know, nine months, and asked
Derek carrback then, he'd take the full of guarantee money
over the early trigger. The early trigger was sort of
the comperence lies, let's let's stay with quarterbacks and and
move over to Denver. What what is what's next in Denver?
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I mean, I know Sean Payton's name is is out there,
but I mean, who who will take this? Is this
considered to be a volatile situation to step into because
of Russell Wilson. There are pluses and minds is too.
I mean, I think one thing that's a big plus
is like what the structure is going to be like
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in the resources of ownership. There has um you know,
I I for everything that's gone wrong this year, I
do think there's a feeling the Waltons are going to
be good owners and the Greg Tenner um the CEO
and you know co owner, he's gonna do a good
job in that role. And obviously you know the ability
to spend on staff and facilities and and and players
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like everything that you have everything you need there, But
there's the albatross a quarterback of his contract, and so
that's just really interesting about this one. LaVar is like,
is it Sean Tayton gonna want to go there? Like
if you're Sean Payton and you know, I probably am
only gonna do this one more time, right, do you
want to hit your wagon to Russell Wilson? And I
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think the answer is probably know, you know, And I
think what's gonna be difficult about that for the new
Broncos ownership is I think the main thing here is
finding somebody who can stand up to Russell Wilson and
not just stand up to him, but have the leverage
to play a seed peede in the ground and stay there,
you know. And so that's why, like I think, you know,
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you have to look at somebody who's either been a
head coach before, who has been a prominent player in
the league. And that's where I think like a Dan
Quinn or Jim Harbaugh would make sense there. That's where
I think, you know, even look at Amiko Ryan's or
a Gerard Mayo would make sense. Like They've already tried
the young offensive guru route and Russell quite frankly walked
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all over and walks all over that walks all over
to Sande Hackey, you know. So I think the main
thing now finding somebody who's got the ability to leverage
the strength to stand up to Russell Wilson tell him
no on a bunch of things. And the hard thing
about that is a lot of guys who do have
that sort of leverage, you do have that kind of strength,
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aren't gonna want to go there because of Russell Wilson.
So that's where I think you have to sort of
figure things out. If you're Greg Penner the Broncos. Albert
Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL
reporter at the m MQB. You can get him on
Twitter at Albert Brier. Speaking of Sean Payton. So we've
heard rumblings about, you know, the Rams, the Chargers, the Cowboys,
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is like all the and the more you start looking
at a lot of these places, like there's no guarantee
that some of these jobs are going to be open.
So where's a realistic destination for Sean Payton at this
point in time? You know, I think if like he
gave true serum a month ago and asked him where
he would have wanted to go would have been the
Chargers because of the location, because of the quarterback. Um.
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You know, obviously now they're in the playoffs, that's probably
not happening, you know. Um, I I do think, you know,
provided Matthew Stafford doesn't reverse course. And I know Matthew
Staffords told people in that building he's coming back for
three Um. I think Sean McVeigh will be back for
another year. Not certain, but I think he will be
back for another year. And that sort of leaves to me,
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like the Cardinals, the Broncos, and in both those places,
the questions as you want to hitch his while into
those quarterbacks. And I think that's where the idea of
New Orleans comes up again. And I don't think it's
gonna happen. I think Dennis Allen's probably back for a
second year. But I do think it's interesting that that
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speculation hasn't been stamped out by anybody yet, you know,
So I think that's just sort of one worth fourth
monitoring was I think now the very real and growing
possibility that he spends another year at Fox and wait
until the right one to come along. I was gonna
just kind of explore the Saints possibility, only because I
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know they have their rights, so no matter what he does,
if he comes back, they have to trade him. Have
to figure that out. But I mean, how would Dennis
Allen handle that? It sounds like, you know, Sean Payton
already has maybe Vic Fangio tabbed as his defensive coordinator.
This All Stars All Stars staff we keep hearing about,
which I'm sure makes current head coaches at those places
that our potential destinations feel great. Um. But I mean,
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I assume Dennis Allen would just be like, Okay, I'm
stepping aside and letting this new staff and Sean Payton
come back. If that was If that was the case,
it'd be weird too, because he's not. You know. The
funny thing about this is I do think I do
think Sean feels a little awkward about it, you know,
the way all of this and you know with I mean,
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he's friends with some of these guys, you know, yeah,
but does he really feel awkward? I mean, he's the
one putting this out there. I mean, like I think
he does. I like honestly, Like I just tell you,
I think there is a little bit of an awkwardness
to it for him. But again, like he's not stamping
it out right, like he's not like you know, he's
not going he's got a for him. He's not going
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on the air in box and saying, you know, like
like no, I'm not doing that. And you know, obviously
it's very close to Dennis Allen. Dennis Allen coached under
him twice, you know, in New Orleans, and he grewom
Dennis Allen for that job. So I'm I mean, yeah,
it is really weird. And I think like to some degree, Brady,
we all knew we were gonna be here anyway, right,
Like I think when when Sean walked away last year
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in January, I think we all knew, like eleven twelve
months down the line, like Sean Payton would be hovering
over every opening the way the way it is right now. Um.
But yeah, I mean, I I it's certainly awkward, and
I think it can't be comfortable if you're somebody in
that New Orleans organization who coached under him for all
those years. Now seeing all these headlines out there, I
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got one more for you, Albert. Um. Yeah, the Hulks.
The Hulks are are going after Dad Snyder and and
the Washington commanders. I mean, is this is this the
proverbial nail in the coffin so to speak with with Dan?
I mean, I still think he's going to try to
(28:15):
get out of selling his team. Um. But it seems
like every time things kind of kind of settled down
or you know, get a little quiet, something else happens
and this is a big something else. Yeah. You know
what though, are I think in these sources of situations,
you always follow the money and um, you know, I
(28:35):
always feel like I think that there is that element
of Snyder maybe being you know, Lucy pulling the foot
football a way at the very end and saying, no,
I'm keeping the team. Um. And I think like his
way of doing that was gonna be setting the price
exponentially high and then and then hoping that nobody would
match it. Um. If it's true what Forbes reported at
(28:56):
the end of last week, and I haven't independently verified
every one of the bids, but if it's true that
there are several bids that are well over seven billion dollars,
then I think it's over because I think if, like,
if the bidding gets over seven billion dollars and you
have multiple suitors over seven billion dollars, there's gonna be
(29:17):
exponential pressure to sell from other owners. You know, the
other owners gonna look at that and say, this is
an opportunity for us to reset the market for our teams.
This is an opportunity for us to rid ourselves of
Dan Snyder. And so I think like his playing all
along here to some degree at least with to set
the price so exponentially high that you could say, no
(29:40):
one's gonna match it. And I think where the bidding
seems to be going now is sort of ruining that
plan for him. And so I would think at the
bidding is where everybody where people are saying it is,
than this thing is probably over Albert before we let
you go, we got about minute left here, and again, like,
I know what you're thinking, all right, it's just gonna
go back to the same old Ohio State six and
(30:02):
a half point underdogs, the over under at sixty two
and a half. This has nothing to do with gambling.
I was just curious, do you do you envision c J.
Stroud throwing for more than two seventy nine and a
half yards in this game against Georgia coming up? Do
you think or what? Well? I just I mean, based
on everything I've heard, I hope our guys just get
their their shoes, lay stuff right and get there, get there,
(30:23):
you get their ankles tape and and and get out
there and play right. I mean, have you heard like
a lot of people. Have you heard a lot of
people doubting the buck guys or something? What's going on here?
I've decided that I'm gonna keep a low profile for
this one didn't work out for me. Uh five six
weeks ago. Yeah, talking around around, you thought you thought
(30:47):
you had that one in the bag against Mission. How
about this? The sec one in three so far in
Bowl games. So I mean that's I guess that's why.
I guess that's encouraging. But I mean Georgia's, um, George's
got a lot of dude so ill that way. So
I uh, yeah, I think I think it's best about
keep a low profile ahead of this one and then
(31:08):
maybe you'll see a tacock in a few days. So
there it is, Albert, We appreciate it again. Get him
on Twitter at Albert Brier, Have a good rea, have
a good weekend. We'll do it again in the new year. Alright,
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They're not pleased with their organization. They're not pleased with
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you here again a little over ten minutes from now
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it's time to spread them. It's time for against the
Spread in the NFL and a new twist, a little
college football Holly the Lap because we got a college
football playoff coming up. So where do we stand on
the season? First and foremost, that is right, It is
a big week. Last week the standings had LaVar with
a three point lead on both Jonas and Brady. Here
(33:21):
we go, Well, a little bit of a switchero here, fellows, quit,
We're gonna go one by one. We had Giants at Vikings.
Brady was correct that the Giants would cover against Minnesota.
We had Seahawks at Chiefs. Brady and Jonas. You guys
were correct that Casey would uh would beat the Seahawks
by more than ten points. They went by fourteen. Eagles
(33:43):
at Cowboys, Brady and LaVar, you guys were correct that
the Cowboys would get it done. Versus Philly Lions at Panthers.
Brady and LaVar again, you guys, the pros correctly predicted
that the Panthers would uh would get this one done.
That is correct, Brady, are getting a lot here so far.
And on a second lead. Didn't I have the Panthers?
I have it here that you had Detroit? Okay, I'm
(34:07):
almost I'm almost positive I had the Panthers. Okay, I mean,
I'll be honest with you. I thought you had Detroit.
But go ahead, okay, all right, we could go back
in fact check that one can definitely do that. Lastly,
last week, we had Packers at Dolphins. Green Bay gets
it done, and Brady was the only one who had
green Bay in that game. That is correct to everybody. Brady,
(34:27):
you were five and oh last week turning the tables.
You are now tied with LaVar for the lead, and
Jonas you are just shortly you four points behind. Come,
don't take my I got I got screwed out of
that Panthers picked by the way. I love the Panthers
in that spot. No oy. Alright, Well, in retrospect, you're
(34:49):
trying to say that, No I did. I like the Panthers.
I think if there was one game Detroit was gonna
lose because it was gonna be that game. But again,
I'm not here to air out lead a laugh who
clearly made a mistake. I'm not doing that always somebody
I'm not. I'm not going to air him out like
that easily. I don't call you unless I know you're wrong.
So what do we got this weekly? Alright, Fellas, we
(35:09):
are going to start with the Panthers at Bucks game
that's not getting a lot of attention, but it's a
lot on the line. Bucks three point favorites at Home
way into three. I think it matters a lot of
vida ve I can play if you can help stuff
to run. Because Caroline has been able to run on
pretty much anyone lately. But at some point Tom Brading
them have to explode, right, they have to have that
(35:30):
big oa that have a big game. Huh, what do
you think of LaVar? I'm taking the Bucks on this one.
Uh take it, you know, I'm gonna take the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers here. I think at some point Tom Brady
in this offense has got to explode, and I think
this might be the week doubled down. All Right, you guys,
(35:54):
a f C from a f C South to a
f C East. Dolphins at Patriots, Patriots at three point
favorites at home, Brady, where you're starting land of three? Actually,
teddy Bridge has been great against the spread in his career,
but Belichick at home. Playoff implications still on the line.
I don't know. Just it's it's hard to hard to
bet against the Patriots. What do you think of LaVar?
(36:15):
Not a believer? Not a believer. I'm taking the Dolphins
on this one. I will take New England, but I'm
not crazy about it. So in case I get it wrong,
then we can go back and we'll That's why That's
why you sat there told us the last two weeks
all right, the pick six, the Chandler Jones and the
(36:38):
fumble by Stevenson knocked on the door last week. But
that's why you thought you picked uh the other team
because of what you just did. You don't worry about
what I'm riding, if it's a fence or whatever, your fence,
rider onto the NFC Viking names, not fence. Vikings at packers,
Packers three point favorites at home, Brady, where are you going?
(37:01):
Land of three? A? Green Bay is on a roll
two in a row. That point differential for Minnesota. They've
got twelve wins, they have a plus five point differential
figure figure with that one out? What do you think
of Lamark? Yeah, I'm a rockwood Minnesota on this one.
It's the year to to kind of make a statement.
What better than too that was, you know, the little
(37:24):
hot street that green Bay is on like that that.
It's this will be a good one for them to
do that. I'm so tired of the fraudulent Packers have
playoff hopes, blah blah blah blah blah. It's over skull.
Give me the Vikings skinning points. In fact, I think
I think Minnesota might actually win this game. Out right,
all right, you guys. College Football Action, College Football Playoff
(37:45):
Action TCU versus Michigan Michigan seven and a half point favorites.
Brady oh Man TCUs got that team of destiny kind
of everything feels like everything's closer, a second half comeback.
I'll take the points because of the hook here. Um,
I'd like to think they can keep this close. I
don't feel good about it. What do you think of
(38:06):
LaVar No on TCU. Sorry, the ride is over, the
thrill is gone. Yeah, there's always one team that probably
doesn't belong here. Not the tc didn't have a great year,
but I think there's a clear difference between them and
the other three teams. I'm gonna go with Michigan last one,
you guys. Ohio State versus Georgia Georgia six and a
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hit me one more time. Yeah, back to they harmonized there.
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That was good. That was a good one. All right,
come on Brady here here now, the hooks up man
is not throwing peer pressure just because he's just trying
to be the puppet master on the show. That's it's
(02:10):
not true. That's not true. I think there's a lot
of people who would really really get fired up heading
into work here and you drop a yeah to start
out the hour. Um, okay, Lee wasn't good. I mean,
it isn't a lie for for for what it's worth.
I mean, people would get a kick out of here
and Brady do it. But that's that's not gonna yeah,
(02:33):
just letter believe they would. By the way, the Miami Dolphins,
the Miami Dolphins have made a decision not the most
surprising storyline here based on the recent events of twa
Taka Byloa and the concussion Protocol, etcetera, etcetera. And this
is the second known time he's at a concussion this season.
But Mike McDaniel made the announcement that there will be
(02:55):
a new starting quarterback this week for the Dolphins. Here
was the Dolphins head coach. The whole idea of taking
day to day is kind of rough on coaches who
have to plan for you know, a bunch of people.
So the approach that I'm unequivocally taken today. You know,
I was on the phone, I met with him yesterday.
I met with Teddy yesterday. I was exchanging ideas and
(03:16):
talking through some stuff all the way until like ten
fifteen last night. Um, there was his bedtime and so
moving forward today and you know the whole team's approaches, Uh,
Teddy Bridgewater is the starter. So there it is. Teddy
Bridgewater will start for the Dolphins with uh this bit. Uh,
(03:40):
we just exchanged ideas and unequivocally we came to looking
glee and come on, it just gets me every time.
That's that's hipster laning. That's hipster lingo. Man. I could
(04:03):
guarantee you if we asked him offline, bro, are you
a hipster? I could guarantee you his answer be yes,
you think someday, coach, but I'm a hipster First, I
don't think hipsters can be football coaches, football players, you
think so. I think McVeigh is a hipsters a hips
and I mean he's, you know, maybe a little fashion forward.
(04:27):
I don't know if he's a hipster though. When I
think hipster, I think beanie, I think Doc Martin boots,
I think you know, flannels. Yeah, maybe he might might
throw that in there too. It makes you a hipster, no, no, no,
but it can be a part of your attire. You
can you can be a hipster with some Lulu lemons on.
You could get away with it. That's not that's not
(04:49):
all the way down the lane of hipster. But you know,
it's there's a look, there's definitely, I mean hipster is
a look. I mean some would say Robert Salo's got
a hipster to him because he wears that long bean
She only coach in the league that wears a long beanie,
like one of those slouch beanies, as opposed to just
the old school hipster. Just saying, if we're talking fashion,
(05:09):
this is the important stuff. We gotta break down here,
right though. I don't I don't want to discredit your
your claim. But Mike McDaniel and and and and while
we're on the conversation point right, I mean, could they
have done anything differently? I mean, honestly, what with to
(05:30):
a situation are you like, if you play him? What
what are you know? What are the ramifications you know,
taking that chance? And maybe maybe you shouldn't have to
take these things into consideration. Maybe in a perfect world
you can say, all right, you know, he's clear to play,
(05:51):
he's clear protocols, so if if we need them, we're
going to use them. Like we're going to clear him
to play, we're gonna play him. But I just get
the feeling that the pressure would be overwhelmingly uncomfortable, and
and the scrutiny and and the backlash of him playing
(06:15):
based off of having his second concussion probably holds more
weight than playing him even if he were clear to play. Yeah,
they're in a tough spot. And and I don't know,
I mean, like the idea and also you get the
NFL p A is going to look into the handling
(06:36):
of this, And it just goes back to what we've
talked about before. If to us says he's fine and
he's not showing symptoms during the game, what are they
supposed to do like. I don't like. I don't understand
why why they should be held accountable. It's like you had,
you had the outrage the first time around where they
had to fire the independent neurologists or whatever. That guy's
responsibility was, well, here we are again, and he went
(06:59):
out and he finished the game, supposedly after he suffered
this concussion, but nobody knew anything. Like, they weren't talking
about it during the broadcast. They weren't. So the the
idea that the Dolphins should be be responsible and held
accountable if this stuff happens. I just I don't understand that.
I don't I don't get how that works. You know,
Mike McDaniel should get a lot more credit for being
(07:19):
the one to catch it. He's the one that reportedly
told to would go see a doctor. They're in a
in a film session together on Monday, and based on
to his responses to him, he said, this is not
normal protocol. Usually, he's he's better working through this talking
about this. You need to go see someone. Something sums off.
So it's good that at least Mike McDaniel was able
(07:41):
to identify it. I know a lot of people weren't,
you know, happy with with how things went down previously.
Obviously the independent neurologist sends up taking the fall for
everyone there, but he does care. He obviously trying to
look out for the best interest of two and it's
it's why they've thrown the towel on this week's game.
Now next week is really really gets interesting because there's
(08:02):
a chance to is cleared. And I think the question
would be, since this is his second concussion, some would
say it's his third, right because everyone thought the week
before the the initial concussion took place, he got concussed, right,
and that's what led to the outrage in the following
week's game where he got knocked out. So some would
(08:24):
say he's already had you know, three this year based
on the one that wasn't diagnosed, or you know he
ended up playing after and now he's gotten too. So
what happens if you have another next week, if he's
clear to play, Like that's that's the slippery slope that
we're on here. You're talking about a player that could
end up maybe you know, deciding that in the off
(08:44):
season or depending on how things go, like this isn't
worth it. It's not worth all these head injuries for
my long term life down the road. Um, I mean
there could even be an issue in moving forward. The
team can't commit to him. And this isn't a sound crude,
but the reality is, if he gets one more, maybe
he is done, you know, for the rest of his career.
(09:06):
So it's a hard spot for all parties to be in,
and it's hard for players because you know you've got
a warrior mentality out there, and as a leader, you
want to be out there. He wants to be out there.
I mean, he wants This is as good a football
as to has played in his NFL career. He's now
got the chance potentially go to the playoffs, and he's
got a coach that loves him and has helped. I mean,
(09:27):
you don't think he wants to start and play for
this team and you're the thing he loves. Like people
think it's an easy decision. It's not like you try
to play through other injuries all the time, and so
mentally you're thinking, I can play through this too. Even
though it is interesting if you go back and and
I guess the supposed play that caused the concussion, there
(09:47):
is a significant drop off in his play from that
point moving forward in the game. So take that for
what it's worth in regards to last week's performance. But
I just, you know, I think there's a lot on
the line for him personally, for the franchise, everything else
beyond just this season's you know, goal of getting the
playoffs and trying to make a run. And there's also,
(10:09):
like people forget that the injury he suffered at Alabama,
the hip issue, there was some talk that his career
could have been done then, like there was no guarantee
he was going to be able to come back because
of the significance of the injury. So then he works
and works himself back, he becomes a starting quarterback, he's
a top five pick, and then he's got a coach
who basically airs him out in Brian Flores. Finally he
(10:29):
gets somebody who rallies around him. They add pieces around him. Hell, yes,
he wants to be out there. That's that's why he
hasn't self reported during these games when when when he
probably should have spoken up and said, hey, there's something
going on here. So I just I feel like the
Dolphins are kind of in this tough spot because you know,
he wants to be out there. And he wants to play,
and he's already made that choice and come to that
(10:51):
understanding as a player. But it was in the tougher
spot to or Miami. I think I think t is
because know this decision, Like if he makes the decision
to say, like, I can't come back and play this
year because of my my personal health, my long term health,
I feel like he's gonna feel like everyone's gonna hate him.
(11:11):
And you know how it is to when you're out
with an injury, like no one cares, no one has
to be around you, like everyone's moving on the next guy,
and it's just it's a tough spot to being personally,
especially if you know they feel like, hey, look, if
you feel like you can go, go, Like I feel
like he's in a tough spot because he might have
to weigh his potential personal well being over the well
(11:33):
being of the team, since, at least based on how
things have worked out this season, when he's the starter,
they have a chance of winning. Their offense is entirely different.
You guys would know this better than I would. If
is he more likely to suffer another concussion if he
comes back next week or Okay, so then he should
probably sit out the rest of the year. Yeah, I
mean that that's that's one of the reasons why you
(11:54):
look at why he's able to suffer concussion this past week.
You're more susceptible to it. Once you have one, you're
more susceptible to it, especially in that short time frame.
I think he's a sympathetic figure. So if he sits
out the rest of the season, I think it's more
he's more in jeopardy of of losing his his job
(12:15):
as as a quarterback, because I don't know that for
the sake of caring about him as a person, that
you want to go that direction again during the course
of an entire season. I'll just say, do you do
you feel like he's in jeopardy regardless? Yes, And and
this makes it even It jeopardizes him way way more
(12:40):
because now you're not talking about the merits of his game.
You're talking about if if I can live with myself
if this guy goes out here and gets hit and
it messes him up for the rest of his life, Well,
that's something you got to take into consideration. You ask
me that question, do you feel like the organizations in
(13:00):
a tougher spot for that predicament because if they put
them out there and it happens, it's on their watch,
I think they're I think they're in a tougher predicament
because sometimes you have to protect a guy from themselves.
And and like you know, Jonas was saying like he
didn't want to report it, he was ready to play,
he wanted to play. Well, what does that look like
if he gets out there, he cleared protocol and he
(13:22):
gets out there and it's worse than the one we
saw that that showed up the first time. You know,
I just think that that puts Mike McDaniel and in
a tough situation and probably the toughest for him. It's
probably the toughest for him because you're you, you have
(13:42):
an opportunity to have a good year um and and
continue it on and and at the same time, you
know the severity of what could happen after having suffrage
your second concussion, and that's the second concussion that we're
speaking of Q. You know, you know for that it
(14:04):
ain't too it's not two. There's there's there have been
more scenarios play out with him than just the two
that we know about. So and whether it's all the
way concussion or whatever it is, you can just tell like, like,
that's not normal to hear hear somebody say he had
(14:26):
to report him or tell him to go see somebody
because of the way he's reacting in meetings. That's not good.
That's not good. That's not everyday lingo. You know, I
could see a guy limping around and be like, bro,
like go get that checked out. What is it hang
now or what like? That's different. You see guy limping around,
(14:46):
that's different. But when you're talking about I can noticeably
tell that you need to go get checked out. Mentally,
that ain't good, man, That just ain't That doesn't sit well.
And that's a that is a that is a true
dilemma because where does science of you clearing protocol versus
you taking a humanistic approach to how you you because
(15:10):
sometimes you gotta protect your guys. Where is the fine
line he wanted to play he cleared protocol, we're playing
a boom. Now he's laying on the ground and he
ain't getting up. Imagine that playing out. Yeah, I think
that's pretty that's a pretty compromising position of being and
I I just don't think I would be willing to
(15:31):
take that risk. I look at too and be like, Bro,
you're a sympathetic figure. People love you. Let's just get
to the offseason. Let's let's get you as health as
we possibly can with how you're feeling, get a plan
moving forward, and and hope for the best. But just know,
another concussion on my watch, I can't play you, Doc.
(15:52):
Yeah that's next season two. I think I just can't
play you. That means the last two times, if the
Dolphins werena make the playoffs, that that back up quarterback
starting in the walk cart round. Yeah, I remember the
last one to Matt Moore. He got annilated. Like this
organization short term with concussions, he always got decapitated. Did
he finish that game? By the way he came back
(16:13):
in that was Jesus Man for people he and he
By the way he looked concussed, that was one remember
he was. I mean, there was some bad play down
the stretch here like that, dude doesn't look right. For
anybody who thinks the NFL still has a long way
to go with their concussion handling, go back to that
game and asked yourself, why was Matt Moore still in
the game, Like, why did he Why was he that
(16:35):
was against Pittsburgh. Yeah, he got destroyed. I've got it
Forgid Drill bail it. Oh you know who it was.
It was bud Dupree. I think it was bud Dupree,
wasn't it? God? That's yeah, he got destroyed. I was
gonna go carn L Lake. But again just talking, you know,
(16:55):
just four one two here, Vin, we're doing here. Earl Holmes.
Earl Holmes got him. Yeah, that was it. It's uh.
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at Albert Brier Albert Daffy Thursday to you, hope all
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You're good? Just hanging out, man. What's your Christmas? Albert? Yeah?
Come on, well I was good. It was good. It
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was good. I got the kids up. Let's get the
PlayStation five. So, uh, I got to be fifteen years
old again, which was cool. And yeah, so you really
got it for you kind of Well, I mean, I
I I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say that. I uh,
you know, I'm excited to get my kids n c
A when that comes out again, you know, and it's
(18:16):
excited to get the Madden and yeah, yeah, I uh,
I think I think there was a great gift for them, Brady.
So I got I got a question for you if
you're if you start playing Madden next year, what team
is Derek are going to be on? Well, first of all,
Madden is really freaking complicated now, um, it is not
(18:37):
the same as it was and Uh, guys, I think,
like the this is sort of been in the works
for a while, um, and I think what's interesting about
where this goes next is just a number of quarterbacks
that they're gonna be available, you know. And you know,
I think Jimmy Garoppolo is another one where, um, you know,
(18:57):
you can try both those guys to the Jets. Both
those guys have experience in the background in the system
the Jets run. Um, you know, Jimmy obviously could wind
up going to the Raiders, and so you know, I
I think right now, um, you're starting to see where
we're gonna have a fair amount of quarterback movement in general. Again.
And so um, the upside for Derek Carr here is
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that he's going to get a jump on the market
because of the way his contract is structured. Um that
you know that that that money, that forty four million
dollars vests in the middle of February, three days after
the Super Bowl. So Derek Carr is essentially gonna get
a one month head start on everybody. So if you're
a team like the Jets, you know, and you're saying,
(19:42):
we got to bring in competition for Zach Wilson or
we gotta replace Zack Wilson. Do you take the burden
to hand over to the bush? You know? Do you
take Derek carr um in February so you know who
you've got and you can go forward and build with them,
or do you wait for Jimmy Garoppolo in March? You know?
I think that that's what's interesting about it, is that
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Derek Carr's gonna have a one month head start on
everybody on the quarterback market. Do you think more quarterbacks
should put that in their contract? The timing of it,
it seems like it's it's a little bit of maybe obviously,
as you said, it like an advantage to get on
the market, but it seems it's just a smart move
in general for both the player and the team to
be able to find more clarity this time of year
where you can say, hey, we don't want the guy
(20:24):
to get hurt and have to own him that money,
and obviously if you're gonna move on, might as well
move on and figure out the destination for him, and
who's the right guy for us? Yeah, Brady, I think
it'd be optable for any player, honestly. I mean, and
we've seen the late chargers before too, right, Like if
you guys remember Colin Kaepernick had I think they were
April triggers in his contract, where like the Niners could
(20:47):
literally like wait the quarterback market out through March, see
what they might have, and then make a later decision
on Colin Kaepernick. So these things have been sort of
elements and contracts for a while. Um And I think
for Derek Carr, a huge part of it was, well,
if you're not going to guarantee me the money, then
you at least need to let me know early on.
(21:09):
So when they did it, it was sort of a compromise,
you know, where um, you know, I think the Raiders,
you know, from an office basically said well, because of
our cash flow issues, we don't want to have to
fund fifty or sixty million dollars, and you know, Carside
came back and said, well, if we're going to expose
ourselves to that sort of risk where you're not going
(21:29):
to guarantee anything past year one and you're gonna give
yourself the out, well then you gotta let us know
ahead of time. So that's sort of how that one
worked out, rightly, where it was you know, compromising the
fully guaranteed money. And if you're gonna make us do that,
then you've got to give us an easier path to
the market. So I'm sure if you if you're wanting
(21:50):
the clock back, um, you know, nine months, and asked
Derek carrback then, he'd take the full of guarantee money
over the early trigger. The early trigger was sort of
the comperence lies, let's let's stay with quarterbacks and and
move over to Denver. What what is what's next in Denver?
(22:11):
I mean, I know Sean Payton's name is is out there,
but I mean, who who will take this? Is this
considered to be a volatile situation to step into because
of Russell Wilson. There are pluses and minds is too.
I mean, I think one thing that's a big plus
is like what the structure is going to be like
(22:31):
in the resources of ownership. There has um you know,
I I for everything that's gone wrong this year, I
do think there's a feeling the Waltons are going to
be good owners and the Greg Tenner um the CEO
and you know co owner, he's gonna do a good
job in that role. And obviously you know the ability
to spend on staff and facilities and and and players
(22:55):
like everything that you have everything you need there, But
there's the albatross a quarterback of his contract, and so
that's just really interesting about this one. LaVar is like,
is it Sean Tayton gonna want to go there? Like
if you're Sean Payton and you know, I probably am
only gonna do this one more time, right, do you
want to hit your wagon to Russell Wilson? And I
(23:18):
think the answer is probably know, you know, And I
think what's gonna be difficult about that for the new
Broncos ownership is I think the main thing here is
finding somebody who can stand up to Russell Wilson and
not just stand up to him, but have the leverage
to play a seed peede in the ground and stay there,
you know. And so that's why, like I think, you know,
(23:38):
you have to look at somebody who's either been a
head coach before, who has been a prominent player in
the league. And that's where I think like a Dan
Quinn or Jim Harbaugh would make sense there. That's where
I think, you know, even look at Amiko Ryan's or
a Gerard Mayo would make sense. Like They've already tried
the young offensive guru route and Russell quite frankly walked
(23:58):
all over and walks all over that walks all over
to Sande Hackey, you know. So I think the main
thing now finding somebody who's got the ability to leverage
the strength to stand up to Russell Wilson tell him
no on a bunch of things. And the hard thing
about that is a lot of guys who do have
that sort of leverage, you do have that kind of strength,
(24:20):
aren't gonna want to go there because of Russell Wilson.
So that's where I think you have to sort of
figure things out. If you're Greg Penner the Broncos. Albert
Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL
reporter at the m MQB. You can get him on
Twitter at Albert Brier. Speaking of Sean Payton. So we've
heard rumblings about, you know, the Rams, the Chargers, the Cowboys,
(24:40):
is like all the and the more you start looking
at a lot of these places, like there's no guarantee
that some of these jobs are going to be open.
So where's a realistic destination for Sean Payton at this
point in time? You know, I think if like he
gave true serum a month ago and asked him where
he would have wanted to go would have been the
Chargers because of the location, because of the quarterback. Um.
(25:01):
You know, obviously now they're in the playoffs, that's probably
not happening, you know. Um, I I do think, you know,
provided Matthew Stafford doesn't reverse course. And I know Matthew
Staffords told people in that building he's coming back for
three Um. I think Sean McVeigh will be back for
another year. Not certain, but I think he will be
back for another year. And that sort of leaves to me,
(25:24):
like the Cardinals, the Broncos, and in both those places,
the questions as you want to hitch his while into
those quarterbacks. And I think that's where the idea of
New Orleans comes up again. And I don't think it's
gonna happen. I think Dennis Allen's probably back for a
second year. But I do think it's interesting that that
(25:44):
speculation hasn't been stamped out by anybody yet, you know,
So I think that's just sort of one worth fourth
monitoring was I think now the very real and growing
possibility that he spends another year at Fox and wait
until the right one to come along. I was gonna
just kind of explore the Saints possibility, only because I
(26:05):
know they have their rights, so no matter what he does,
if he comes back, they have to trade him. Have
to figure that out. But I mean, how would Dennis
Allen handle that? It sounds like, you know, Sean Payton
already has maybe Vic Fangio tabbed as his defensive coordinator.
This All Stars All Stars staff we keep hearing about,
which I'm sure makes current head coaches at those places
that our potential destinations feel great. Um. But I mean,
(26:27):
I assume Dennis Allen would just be like, Okay, I'm
stepping aside and letting this new staff and Sean Payton
come back. If that was If that was the case,
it'd be weird too, because he's not. You know. The
funny thing about this is I do think I do
think Sean feels a little awkward about it, you know,
the way all of this and you know with I mean,
(26:48):
he's friends with some of these guys, you know, yeah,
but does he really feel awkward? I mean, he's the
one putting this out there. I mean, like I think
he does. I like honestly, Like I just tell you,
I think there is a little bit of an awkwardness
to it for him. But again, like he's not stamping
it out right, like he's not like you know, he's
not going he's got a for him. He's not going
(27:08):
on the air in box and saying, you know, like
like no, I'm not doing that. And you know, obviously
it's very close to Dennis Allen. Dennis Allen coached under
him twice, you know, in New Orleans, and he grewom
Dennis Allen for that job. So I'm I mean, yeah,
it is really weird. And I think like to some degree, Brady,
we all knew we were gonna be here anyway, right,
Like I think when when Sean walked away last year
(27:32):
in January, I think we all knew, like eleven twelve
months down the line, like Sean Payton would be hovering
over every opening the way the way it is right now. Um.
But yeah, I mean, I I it's certainly awkward, and
I think it can't be comfortable if you're somebody in
that New Orleans organization who coached under him for all
those years. Now seeing all these headlines out there, I
(27:54):
got one more for you, Albert. Um. Yeah, the Hulks.
The Hulks are are going after Dad Snyder and and
the Washington commanders. I mean, is this is this the
proverbial nail in the coffin so to speak with with Dan?
I mean, I still think he's going to try to
(28:15):
get out of selling his team. Um. But it seems
like every time things kind of kind of settled down
or you know, get a little quiet, something else happens
and this is a big something else. Yeah. You know
what though, are I think in these sources of situations,
you always follow the money and um, you know, I
(28:35):
always feel like I think that there is that element
of Snyder maybe being you know, Lucy pulling the foot
football a way at the very end and saying, no,
I'm keeping the team. Um. And I think like his
way of doing that was gonna be setting the price
exponentially high and then and then hoping that nobody would
match it. Um. If it's true what Forbes reported at
(28:56):
the end of last week, and I haven't independently verified
every one of the bids, but if it's true that
there are several bids that are well over seven billion dollars,
then I think it's over because I think if, like,
if the bidding gets over seven billion dollars and you
have multiple suitors over seven billion dollars, there's gonna be
(29:17):
exponential pressure to sell from other owners. You know, the
other owners gonna look at that and say, this is
an opportunity for us to reset the market for our teams.
This is an opportunity for us to rid ourselves of
Dan Snyder. And so I think like his playing all
along here to some degree at least with to set
the price so exponentially high that you could say, no
(29:40):
one's gonna match it. And I think where the bidding
seems to be going now is sort of ruining that
plan for him. And so I would think at the
bidding is where everybody where people are saying it is,
than this thing is probably over Albert before we let
you go, we got about minute left here, and again, like,
I know what you're thinking, all right, it's just gonna
go back to the same old Ohio State six and
(30:02):
a half point underdogs, the over under at sixty two
and a half. This has nothing to do with gambling.
I was just curious, do you do you envision c J.
Stroud throwing for more than two seventy nine and a
half yards in this game against Georgia coming up? Do
you think or what? Well? I just I mean, based
on everything I've heard, I hope our guys just get
their their shoes, lay stuff right and get there, get there,
(30:23):
you get their ankles tape and and and get out
there and play right. I mean, have you heard like
a lot of people. Have you heard a lot of
people doubting the buck guys or something? What's going on here?
I've decided that I'm gonna keep a low profile for
this one didn't work out for me. Uh five six
weeks ago. Yeah, talking around around, you thought you thought
(30:47):
you had that one in the bag against Mission. How
about this? The sec one in three so far in
Bowl games. So I mean that's I guess that's why.
I guess that's encouraging. But I mean Georgia's, um, George's
got a lot of dude so ill that way. So
I uh, yeah, I think I think it's best about
keep a low profile ahead of this one and then
(31:08):
maybe you'll see a tacock in a few days. So
there it is, Albert, We appreciate it again. Get him
on Twitter at Albert Brier, Have a good rea, have
a good weekend. We'll do it again in the new year. Alright,
thanks guys, Happy New Year. Albert Brier here on Fox
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So coming up top the next hour a little over
ten minutes from now. Somebody in the NFL is not pleased.
They're not pleased with their organization. They're not pleased with
some of the comments that have been made, and they
have let it be known. We'll get into that for
you here again a little over ten minutes from now
from the ti iraq dot com studios. But right now
(32:57):
it's time to spread them. It's time for against the
Spread in the NFL and a new twist, a little
college football Holly the Lap because we got a college
football playoff coming up. So where do we stand on
the season? First and foremost, that is right, It is
a big week. Last week the standings had LaVar with
a three point lead on both Jonas and Brady. Here
(33:21):
we go, Well, a little bit of a switchero here, fellows, quit,
We're gonna go one by one. We had Giants at Vikings.
Brady was correct that the Giants would cover against Minnesota.
We had Seahawks at Chiefs. Brady and Jonas. You guys
were correct that Casey would uh would beat the Seahawks
by more than ten points. They went by fourteen. Eagles
(33:43):
at Cowboys, Brady and LaVar, you guys were correct that
the Cowboys would get it done. Versus Philly Lions at Panthers.
Brady and LaVar again, you guys, the pros correctly predicted
that the Panthers would uh would get this one done.
That is correct, Brady, are getting a lot here so far.
And on a second lead. Didn't I have the Panthers?
I have it here that you had Detroit? Okay, I'm
(34:07):
almost I'm almost positive I had the Panthers. Okay, I mean,
I'll be honest with you. I thought you had Detroit.
But go ahead, okay, all right, we could go back
in fact check that one can definitely do that. Lastly,
last week, we had Packers at Dolphins. Green Bay gets
it done, and Brady was the only one who had
green Bay in that game. That is correct to everybody. Brady,
(34:27):
you were five and oh last week turning the tables.
You are now tied with LaVar for the lead, and
Jonas you are just shortly you four points behind. Come,
don't take my I got I got screwed out of
that Panthers picked by the way. I love the Panthers
in that spot. No oy. Alright, Well, in retrospect, you're
(34:49):
trying to say that, No I did. I like the Panthers.
I think if there was one game Detroit was gonna
lose because it was gonna be that game. But again,
I'm not here to air out lead a laugh who
clearly made a mistake. I'm not doing that always somebody
I'm not. I'm not going to air him out like
that easily. I don't call you unless I know you're wrong.
So what do we got this weekly? Alright, Fellas, we
(35:09):
are going to start with the Panthers at Bucks game
that's not getting a lot of attention, but it's a
lot on the line. Bucks three point favorites at Home
way into three. I think it matters a lot of
vida ve I can play if you can help stuff
to run. Because Caroline has been able to run on
pretty much anyone lately. But at some point Tom Brading
them have to explode, right, they have to have that
(35:30):
big oa that have a big game. Huh, what do
you think of LaVar? I'm taking the Bucks on this one.
Uh take it, you know, I'm gonna take the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers here. I think at some point Tom Brady
in this offense has got to explode, and I think
this might be the week doubled down. All Right, you guys,
(35:54):
a f C from a f C South to a
f C East. Dolphins at Patriots, Patriots at three point
favorites at home, Brady, where you're starting land of three? Actually,
teddy Bridge has been great against the spread in his career,
but Belichick at home. Playoff implications still on the line.
I don't know. Just it's it's hard to hard to
bet against the Patriots. What do you think of LaVar?
(36:15):
Not a believer? Not a believer. I'm taking the Dolphins
on this one. I will take New England, but I'm
not crazy about it. So in case I get it wrong,
then we can go back and we'll That's why That's
why you sat there told us the last two weeks
all right, the pick six, the Chandler Jones and the
(36:38):
fumble by Stevenson knocked on the door last week. But
that's why you thought you picked uh the other team
because of what you just did. You don't worry about
what I'm riding, if it's a fence or whatever, your fence,
rider onto the NFC Viking names, not fence. Vikings at packers,
Packers three point favorites at home, Brady, where are you going?
(37:01):
Land of three? A? Green Bay is on a roll
two in a row. That point differential for Minnesota. They've
got twelve wins, they have a plus five point differential
figure figure with that one out? What do you think
of Lamark? Yeah, I'm a rockwood Minnesota on this one.
It's the year to to kind of make a statement.
What better than too that was, you know, the little
(37:24):
hot street that green Bay is on like that that.
It's this will be a good one for them to
do that. I'm so tired of the fraudulent Packers have
playoff hopes, blah blah blah blah blah. It's over skull.
Give me the Vikings skinning points. In fact, I think
I think Minnesota might actually win this game. Out right,
all right, you guys. College Football Action, College Football Playoff
(37:45):
Action TCU versus Michigan Michigan seven and a half point favorites.
Brady oh Man TCUs got that team of destiny kind
of everything feels like everything's closer, a second half comeback.
I'll take the points because of the hook here. Um,
I'd like to think they can keep this close. I
don't feel good about it. What do you think of
(38:06):
LaVar No on TCU. Sorry, the ride is over, the
thrill is gone. Yeah, there's always one team that probably
doesn't belong here. Not the tc didn't have a great year,
but I think there's a clear difference between them and
the other three teams. I'm gonna go with Michigan last one,
you guys. Ohio State versus Georgia Georgia six and a
half point favorites. I'll take the podcast. I want to
(38:29):
sprinkle this little something of the money line too. Yeah,
I got Ohio State. I want to see the game
part two. That's what I want. Let's go. That'd be
a lot of fun. Michigan, Ohio State all big ten
Pruss Albert brew would be happy. Yeah, we need him
in a good mood. We do. Yeah, it's always better
for everyone, the old and the Wolverines. Fox Sports Radio
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