February 28, 2023 • 39 mins
The Commanders release Carson Wentz, so what’s next for the veteran QB and Washington? The NFL is looking into penalizing “slams” and “slings on the quarterback. Plus, the weekly edition of “Would You Rather…?”
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and yes we notice commanders, but strict rules here on
this show have to say commandos here have to unless
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you played for the Redskins. Oh my god, it just
every time for me. That's who I played. Look if
you played from multiple our skins though, didn't you? Yeah?
I did. When I was younger, I played for the Braves,
were the first team, then the Redskins were the second team,
and then the Chiefs words third team. So yeah, so
there you go, noticing a trend there, you notice the
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trend out. And then I played for the Indians in
high school, which was our feeder, the program fed. I mean,
didn't no one in your area of Pennsylvania think that,
like you could name your mascot anything other than that.
I think we were married to, you know, the tribal
tribal connection for some strange reasons throwing that out there. Yeah,
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I mean, I don't know, Q. I just you know,
that's what I grew up in. Is there like an
animal that's seen a lot in Pittsburgh, or like a
Nitney lion or something. Yeah, like, what's the anim in Pittsburgh?
Actually beaver, panther, beaver works, rabbit beaver. Yeah, we had
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some big, strong rats. We had river rats, strong rats. Yeah,
hell yeah, so we should have been like the rivers
plan this week. We got the strong rats, We got
the strong rats. Yeah. The river rat. Yeah, deal with
a river rat. Do you ever see a river rat
fet They'll take it to you. Yeah. I've seen a
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river rat give a pitbull all it could handle in
an alleyway one time when I was growing. Some people
have described join us as a river rat. Yeah. Hey,
you want to see a river rat? I go to
have a soon. A couple of months they're there, are they?
Oh yeah, rats out here look like pets. Rats in
Pittsburgh look like like a wild at. Like you need
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a rifle or like a gun or knife. You don't
want even want to night. You don't even want to
get close to him. By the way, have you seen
the numbers on rats how fast they multiply? I mean
they can get it going like it's it's thirty a week,
isn't there Like rabbits too, they could do it too. Yeah. Yeah,
but I don't have a problem with rabbits. I got
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a problem with rats. Yeah, I mean it's the tail
and I live in the Canajoe Valley. All right, it's
so crazy because right there about that, uh, if you
if you took the Brady Quinnez, if you took the
fur off of a off of a squirrel's tail, y'all
gonna do that again, same bit, Brady Quinnez. Well, he
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knows Spanish. That's good. They went to Notre Day. Man,
what do you think that went to right next to Tijuana? Everything?
That's impressive? Not that was next to Tea one man.
So you're thinking geographically speaking, is the only reason why
he would know it. I'm saying no, I'm saying educational level.
You know, they do business all over the world. Where's
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got better Mexican food? San Diego or South Bend? South Bend? Oh,
come on man, that counts all right, Carson Wentz Man,
all right, Carson, alright, let's go all right. So Carson Wentz,
the era of the Wentz and Washington Commando's run is over.
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He has been released by the football team. And it
just feels like we kind of saw this happening. It
was headed in this direction, but It's pretty wild to
think that this guy was the MVP of the league.
And then since that time, after eleven games or whatever
it was, heading into week fourteen, whatever it was, it
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was a December game against the Rams. That time, he's
gotten injured. The Eagles won a Super Bowl, They've gone
to another one, both with guys that spend time backing
up him in Philadelphia. He goes to Indianapolis that was
a disaster. He was the fall guy, according to jimmers say,
and then ultimately it was Frank Reich. And then he
goes to Washington, suffers an injury. Tyler Heineke comes in.
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Next thing you know, Carson Wentz is battling trying to
get playing time, ended off the season poorly again, and
now he's out of work. It is a crazy turn
of events to consider where he was and all the
promise that he showed, and meanwhile, the guy that was
taken ahead of him, who everybody said Carson Wentz is
going to pan out better Jared Goff's career would I
would argue he's playing at an all time level, and
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Carson Wentz is now looking for work. What the hell happened?
Thank you? Oh, I'm supposed to. Yeah, what happened? I
think it's a number of things. I mean, one, I
don't think that Carson Wentz lacks talent. I mean that's
the first thing. He got drafted where he got drafted
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for a reason, and because I think people saw talent
in him, and at times he displayed that in his career,
especially early on when he had the momentum. He had
confidence and he had an organization that believed in him,
and the worst thing that could happen to him and
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really within that organization is is he lost confidence in himself.
Whether that comes via an injury or not, or maybe
it was just more mental and someone else came in
and basically took over the team he was running, took
him to a super Bowl and won it, And so
everything he had done up to that point, where he
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probably felt like he was the biggest reason as the
quarterback of a team that they were having success, was
all diminished. Because you had a guy come in behind
you who's not viewed as talented and now viewed as
good as you come in and be able to take
this team to the pinnacle. That I think really set
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him back mentally, probably as far as you know, what
he's capable of as a player, what he's capable of
as a quarterback, questioning I think a lot of people
in the locker room even question just you know, his
ability to be that guy, or could anyone lead that team?
Could Nick Foles come in and lead that team? And
so I think those early struggles really plagued him, honestly
throughout the rest of his career. And it's hard if
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you think about it from human nature, Who the hell
is going to get over that? If he stays healthy
through that season, he's not only the MVP. They probably
still go on to win the Super Bowl. You'd think
at least that's the trajectory that they were on. And
you think if Nick Foles could, Carson Wentz could at
least that season, the way he's playing his entire career
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looks different. And so then after that point there's obviously
some I don't know if it's frustration or disgruntlement between
Wentzon the organization and went and Falls and all that.
So they move on from Falls, but they Joe draft
a guy who to come in and basically potentially replace
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Wentz in Jalen Hurts, and so then that deteriorates So
then Wentz looks for a new opportunity and he goes
to a team in the Colts, where I mean, say
what you want, he obviously performed better than Matt Ryan did. Now,
he didn't down the stretch when they needed him to
the most. But it's also a tough call for any
quarterback who's going into a system in their first year,
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trying to get down the chemistry and a new environment,
all these things around you, the opponents you're playing. Now
you go from an NFC team to an AFC team,
you know, all that stuff is a learning experience in
your first year. He didn't play awful. He didn't. He
wasn't the best quarterback in the league, but he played
some decent football. At the bottom line is or they
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want to blame him, whether it's the vaccine and all
that had something to do with them. And then he
goes to Washington. Now Washington's trying to make him the savior,
new team, new offense, another year. I mean, it's just
that's where things start to spiral out and you end
up not having any success when you don't have any stability.
I mean, if you asked a defensive player who jumped
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from three teams in three years, how would you say
he's going to play? Probably not well. I mean, I
think you could probably use that analogy for any organization
or any corporation you work for. You jump to three
different places in three years, you're probably gonna have a
hard time really settling in and performing at your best
until you get some more time they're around the people
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you're working with. Yeah, I mean, I think that's that
about do does it? I mean, that's it's pretty pretty
cut and dry, and I just I guess what I
would add is, once you start having that disagreement and
being disgruntled with the organization where it started in Philly,
then that that bleeds into the locker room. And then
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now you start hearing about how the players don't have
a healthy respect for for the you know, the quarterback,
or the relationships are strained, and then you draft a
new guy, and then now the locker room is divided.
You know, Now that becomes a narrative that's connected to
your name. If you're a call Carson Wentz, that was
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that was a part of the narrative when he was
leaving Philly. Is is he a locker room guy? Is
he a guy that the players can get behind and
support and you know everything is staying in in balance.
That would probably be the only thing that I would add,
whether it was for you know, right or for wrong,
whether it was fear or unfair, whether it was accurate
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or inaccurate. Once that becomes a storyline, that's something that
he has to also, you know, prepare himself to be
able to come back. And I just I think when
you find yourself being let go after one season one time,
you got a lot of soul searching to do. You
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find yourself getting lot losing your job after one season
more than one time in two different places. I don't know.
I don't know how you handle that. I don't know
how you bounce back from that. I don't know how
you feel about that. I just don't know. Not not
being at the level he was at one point in
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time to ending up being a guy that gets let
go after one season multiple multiple times consecutively, I mean
makes sense. I mean, if I'm Kansas City, I am
jumping on Carson Wentz absolutely. I mean they've needed a
veteran back up the past couple of postseasons and Chad
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had heughs now retired and you'd have to say, like, look,
this guy's got talent, and Andy Reid can maximize most quarterbacks,
so there's no doubt in my mind, like they should
be looking long and hard at Wentz and saying, look,
coming here as a backup, you'll get maybe some opportunities
here in some burden time, or if Patrick gets hurt
and we need you and now you can resurrect your
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career in a place that you can maybe settle down
for a few years, you know, watch them and learn
some good football and not be bouncing around, and you
know you'll be in a place that you know, we
feel like is a good spot for you. So that
would make a ton of sense as a backup. But
I think if you if you go started going and
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looking for places where you know, hey, I can just
get on the field fast, it might not be the
best situation for you to go to either because they're
waiting for a guy to come replace you, or you know,
they're just trying to get through to the next year
and you're just that stop gap guy, and that's not
going to help you with your career moving forward or
your development. It's only going to help that team just
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get through another year. Until they can find the guy
to replace you. Let me let me ask you guys this,
not to jump on you, but let me ask you this.
They're saying they're going with Sam How Okay, they still
have Tyler Taylor. Taylor, I don't think it's Heineke is
still under contract. Well, he's still on the team, I believe.
I don't know or the possibility of him returning, but
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he finished the season as a commander. All right. So
they're saying, Sam, how, but you just brought in Eric
b Enemy. Dan Snyder is saying that, you know, you're
feeling as though this the whole momentum of or the
pendulum is swinging in the direction of Dan Snyder maybe
not selling this team. They can't force him to sell it.
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He doesn't have to sell it, and there could be
some feel good moments that take place. Does this set
the stage for them to go get Aaron Rodgers? Well,
Green Bay reportedly will not trade him to an NFC team.
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That's been what has been speculated out there and then,
and so that would kind of cancel that out. Yeah,
and you've got two bidders in that case, and that's
the Raiders and the Jets, which it seems like, you know,
the the Raiders have to be willing to take that on. Okay,
let's let's do this. Let's do this. Here we go
yea all ready? Do you think that in the midst
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of everything that they've done in terms of how much
minority outreach that they've been a part of in Washington
and combating some of the things that have been accused
or have been talked about, which hasn't all been race related,
but some of it. Um, do you think that they're
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gearing up to try to pull off a trade with Baltimore? Um?
I mean it's in proximity that what the be able
to do it. I don't know if they would even
have the room to do it, but I just know
if you are a man in shambles and are on
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your desperation m throw to try to make something work,
what would be better than bringing in Aaron Rodgers to
your team? Would arb Enemy or or Lamar Jackson? Well,
is there any sort of Now that's an exclusive, so
that's up up on. That's a two pros and a
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cup of Joe exclusive right there. But is there any
bad blood or ill will between Bashati and they hate
each other all right, So that's probably hate each other.
I mean more so I would assume more so Rasadi
that like, yeah, they don't like each other. But but
that's business is business. I'm saying, if you could unload
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and get get something in return for it, if you're
Baltimore when you can't get something done, who would be
the best bidder to overpay for a situation such as this?
It would be Dan Snyder. It'd be Dan Snyder. So
whether you like him or not doesn't matter you. I
mean that that would be interesting. That would be an
epic deal. You don't think that Bashadi would say absolutely not?
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Just hearing him in in theory, yes he would say
absolutely not. Yeah, I just I think that a Derek
Carr would make more sense, if he'd even be interested,
or Jimmy Garoppolo would make more sense. I don't think so.
I mean I think they'll do that. I mean, that's
something that they'll get what they can do there, make
no mistake about it. Knowing the track record of who
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he is and how he goes after things, that would
be the one that if he could land Aaron Rodgers
or someone like a Lamar Jackson, is there anyone else
out there of that stature or that magnitude that would
be tradeable for I can guarantee you that's what the
Washington commanders are preparing to try to do. Watch what
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I tell you. I just could you imagine Lamar Jackson going, Yeah,
it would be and plus with proximity like that would
be especially up there. Two very different places though. You
just got to know that the DMV is very different
from Baltimore. Baltimore is Baltimore like that, and and they
want it that way, and everybody around him wants it
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that way. Baltimore is Baltimore. DMV is DMV, two very
different places. It does feel like Ron Rivera has got
to do something and Sam Howe I can't imagine answer that.
Ain't it going into and with Eric b Enemy having
so much at stake for way he wants to do
in his career, to go from from Patrick Mahomes to
Sam how I just don't. And And also that division
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not exactly the it turns out to be. It turned
out to be a pretty good division. You got the
Eagles who almost want a Super Bowl, the Cowboys. You
know that. The playoffs, Yeah, three teams made the playoffs
and one played in the Super Bowl. Think about that,
they could have won with competitive against an elite team
in the in the NFL. So if you go, I say,
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quickly before we get the break, If you guys had
to bet, who is the starting quarterback Week one for
the Washington Commandos next year? Who is it? Aaron Rodgers?
You're going Rodgers? Yes? Cool? Man? Um, I don't know.
I'll go Garoppolo. Yeah, I was just sick. Can I
just take other in the field. It feels like it
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could be a draft pick. It feels like it could
be a number of things. But they're sixteen. Of the
three or four that you've been talking about, Brady, none
of those guys are going to be there at sixteen.
Richardson could be there. Anthony Richardson could be That would
be fun. Well, I take a chance, though. That's the
thing is, I don't think you're taking a chance on
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that young man. I don't. I don't think there's any
debate about his skill set and ability. It's about making
it more consistent, like getting him to continue to grow,
you know, in the position, but just getting that high
level of play more consistent. I'm telling you that dude
could take the league by storm. Now, he could also
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be a guy that gets in a bad situation circumstance
and never turn into player he could have been. But
he oozes with ability. Just watch him this week. Who
he throws. He's gonna have the strongest arm, he's gonna
go run fast as hell, and he's gonna look really,
really agile, and everything he does, he is a specimen.
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I mean, if if there's anyone in this draft you
look at and say he's gonna be the most polarizing
amongst teams, it's it's gonna be Anthony Richardson. Because there's
gonna be some teams that are wild by his physical
skill set and they want to work with that. And
there's gonna be some teams that are like yeah, but
when you put on the tape, it's few and far
between that you see all those things come together to
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make it work. But I personally am am a fan,
am a fan. I think someone's gonna take the chance
on him some of the top twenty for sure. Two
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Slash redeem rewards terms apply. Tis the season potential rule
change proposals have been thrown out? All right? What do
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you guys think of sling verse slam? That apparently is
what is on the dog. Yeah, it's right after Summer Slam.
They got sling verse slam and that's the roughing the
passer idea that's been thrown out there by one team.
They didn't say which team it was. Was it the Rams?
I thought it might have been the Rams, but they
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said that there's a difference between whether or not there's
a slam or a sling, which is considered part of
the progression, the momentum, I guess you will, of of
getting after the quarterback, and so they're trying to find
the separation between the two there. We're fortunate enough to
have our resident sling and slam. Doctor, Yeah, doctor, come on,
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sling it sling or slam a quarterback. I would say
a sling isn't towards the ground. A slam is okay,
That's what I would say. When you're slinging, it's your
They're basically saying, if your momentum is carrying you through
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the play there and I don't know that it is
physically possible to sling when your body is slinging, to
sling somebody down into the ground like it now becomes
a slam. Like A sling is like I got a
hold of you, my momentum is carrying me, and then
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I throw you as as I'm you know, with my momentum. Now,
slam is you're taking their body into the ground. That's
what I would say would be the the Finn the
differences between a sling and a slam. A slam I'm
hitting you off of the ground. A sling is I'm
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throwing you and you're falling to the ground. I feel
like they've made this a little it's it's well, okay,
let me ask you this. Do you look at them
the same or do you say, okay, A slam should
be penalized, A sling should not be you're asking me
Q like I am asking you, Yeah, I mean you're
asking me, you know what I mean? Like like, so
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what I want? I want to have you up so
I don't know. I don't I don't want any of
it to be a penalty stick. City go on us
to be able. I want us to be able to
do what do we do best with? Yeah? Right now? Yeah,
rag Doll, My knee is a little sore because of
the round who make him feel like a quarterback? Right now?
Ragdall that thousands. He put both his hands behind his
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head and said, rag that made it. I don't want
to do it. What's wrong? I'm go going to do it.
People ask why we're not on We can't like televise this.
It's it's it's because for me, I would put it
on Berto first and foremost gonna shake his head, No,
you are the what No, Berto's the puppet master of
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philth on this show. He's the one who controls all this.
He's the one who puts it all out of his system.
He don't say nothing inappropriate nowhere else. Berto, You know,
Berto leaves up out of this studio. BeRTOS is all
that craziness in there and wants in the minute Los
leaves the stud Hello, I'm a Roberto. Yeah, he's British actually,
how are you guys doing today that? I sure would
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love just a little bit of tea? Please? Yes, can
you do a British a cookie? Just a cookie? Mother?
But that's how he speaks when he lives. That is
how Berto no native, I am daylon by your boss.
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By the way, what happened if fig Newton's they still
make those? Ye got? My dad used to eat those
like a s which was the favorite ones though, because
the original is the original, the original, that's your favorite?
And yeah, that was the one that he always because
in the strawberry in the winter strawberries, and he went
original because the original was it's like it's like prune. Yeah. Nah.
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The strawberry ones were like five and you eat four
or five of those? Oh you out of it? Where's daddy? Yeah,
Daddy's in the shower here the toilet flushing. Hey listen anyway,
So so here's the thing I don't I don't think
either one should be should be illegal, but I will
say this, if you touch a quarterback at this point,
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it's a it's a penalty, they call a penalty. So
my whole thing is is, if they're trying to make
this for a quarterback position, you are now continuing to
further a rule and rules that that kind of keep
you from touching the quarterback. My my, my thought process
on where everything is going in terms of trying to
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surround and protect the quarterback from from all of these
different things that can happen is just make it tag
Tag the quarterback. You can tackle anybody else, just tag
the quarterback. They'll be like eighty sacks a year for yeah, yeah,
and less penalties. And that's my thing. Either you're going
to allow him to be a football player and get
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hit like everybody else does, or you're going to continue
to make rules where you're basically passively, aggressively saying to
the players, don't touch him. So you're saying that TWA
can stop taking his judo lessons, right, doesn't have to
worry about it because if they touch, And think about
the level of athleticism a quarterback has to exercise to
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keep from getting touched. Here's what's interesting to me, though,
because you had a number of instances where this happened
this season, right, I think it happens to Rogers. At
one point, it happened to property in the NFC Chanship game.
Those weren't injuries sustained through like a sling or a slam.
It was just the fact that the quarterback's arm got hit.
And so you're obviously gonna keep training defensive ends and
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or edge rushers and pass rushers to do that, are
you not, Josh Allen too right, Josh Allen as well,
there's another one and so you yeah, But but I'm
saying like that had nothing to do with this rule.
You're right. So I look at this and and to
your point, I just think, look, it's football, man, it's football.
I know we want to protect it. And we'll maybe
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get into this um potential rule change with with the
NBA as their collective bargaining agreement. It looks like it's
it's coming together. But if there's a reason why you
have a backup, like I said this after the after
the game, then NFC Championship game, there's a reason why
there's a third quarterback designation because the league goes through
ebbs and flows where there's gonna be times when they're
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defense has an advantage. And right now, the defense, if
you just line up four guys to rush against the
five offensive lineman, the defense has an extreme advantage. There
are better athletes on that side of the ball. Bottom line.
If that offends the one you think I'm lying or
making some stuff up, that is the that is the truth.
And it's as big of a gap as it's ever
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been because of the type of athletes are getting want
to go play defense and the type of athletes are
getting on the old line. And a lot of times
now you're seeing guys you can't make it on the
D line transition to play O line because they're better athletes.
And so what we need to realize is we need
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to put in measures to have backups that can come
in and play and do well. And we saw that
this season eventually to a point. But we also have
to have measures in to say, all right, like maybe
we need to be able to go deeper, Like right now,
we talk about load management in the NBA, which ticks
me off because what's the point of having a bench,
Like that's why you have a bench. You have a
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bench so you have of a team that can come
in and give your players rest so they're not playing
forty plus minutes a game. It's not complicated. We complicate
this stuff and it's so it's crazy to me. YEA,
So even in this case like look sling, slam whatever.
It shouldn't be a penalty in the first place. It's football.
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It's football, Like, you either need to protect your quarterback
better with seven man protections and other things to not
allow that to happen to him, or get the guy
to be mobile or get the ball out of his hand.
How about that. You can watch so many older veteran
quarterbacks get the ball out of their hand quick and
that's what they're taught to do to survive to play
the next down. So I just I hate the fact
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that we're trying to like tweak and do all this
stuff these rules. I understand the intent. We don't want
to see the faces of these franchises go down, but
that's football. That's how it works. That's part of the game.
And now you're penalizing defensive players and hurting their game
and their ability to play the you know, the the
game way he should be played in finding them and
costing them money for doing what a lot of generations
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of football players have done forever. I mean, I feel
like the rules makers look at it and they understand
what Q Jess said that there are flunk of athletes
that are playing defense. These days, and it's wow, because
you're now seeing guys that would have been safeties playing linebacker.
(30:26):
You're seeing guys that would have played linebacker playing defensive end.
You're seeing guys that would have played defensive end playing
defensive tackle. And it's all because of the amount of
skill and strength that that is involved. The understanding and
the knowledge of how to leverage a body, and how
to leverage your body and contort and get into areas
(30:49):
and and and grab body parts that that allow for
you to gain leverage. It's all there. And so to me,
by putting in these rules, like the targeting rules, the
way you hit the quarterback, you have you literally have
a strike zone for the quarterback, and and it's the
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same place where you would throw a baseball. You gotta hit,
you gotta be able to get around the guy, you
gotta be able to beat double teams if you're a
good blocker, and you still have to land home in
the strike zone of a quarterback, which is you're basically saying,
with all of the rules with corners and the way
you hit, you're basically saying, we acknowledge the fact that
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we know how good the athletes are on the defensive
side of the ball, and for that we have to
make the elements of what are considered and perceived to
be safety procedures. But what you're really doing is is
that you're you're trying to even the playing field so
that the success rate goes up on what's taking place
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I know. Would you rather your random topics? Sports or otherwise?
All right, lead to lap. What do we got, fellas?
Would you rather have the head the size of a
baseball or a basketball? Basketball? Basketball? So Beetlejuice or Andre
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the Giant? Correct? Yeah, la, Andre the Giant was at
least proportional proportion. Had a big head, dude, but it
was proportional. Okay, well yeah it was base bar basketball? Jonas,
too much shonas, I'll go baseball? You would you're an idiot? Yeah,
remember that little head and beetle juice. I don't want
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a basketball head, So you'd rather have like a little
beagle juice head? Yeah? Okay, all right, easier to find
there you go. You know they say it's a smaller
brain in there, then so I mean that's what they say. Yeah,
I'll go of it, prove the doubters wrong. Okay, well
there you go, all right, fellas. Would you rather always
(35:14):
lose or never play? Always lose, always lose? Yeah, I
mean I never played, so I don't really have a
shot open here. Yeah, I'll go and never played. It's
not my fault. It could be life, Jonas does that
had to be just a sport. It's not my fault.
You guys lost. I wasn't on the field. That's kind
of cold. I mean, you do really are just a contrarian,
(35:35):
are You don't have to take the blame. I mean
that is true. I remember our last game, our playoff
game senior year high school football. They lost, got absolutely
waxed by Lompoke at home, and I for years afterwards,
I said, man, I can't believe you guys lost that game. Well,
you're on the team too. I didn't play. That was
not on the field. You guys lost a Lompoke easily
(35:57):
touchdown favorites and got smoked by none sized team. What
else you got? Lee smoke? Guys? Would you rather lose
your knees or your elbows? My elbows? Elbows? What do
you mean to lose It means it would just be
like straight legged, straight armed? Oh godly, how you get
a breast your teeth? Yeah, I mean amongst other things. Yeah,
(36:21):
no kidding. Yeah, you know, got to be able to
bend to elbow to do a few more things worth
awhile in your life. Yeah, that is true. Um, well
that is true. I think elbows thought to think of this. Yeah, no,
(36:43):
Tod on this one. When Todd was taking a leak
in the parking lot, He's like, I was like, straight
leg or straight elbow. I don't want to lose my knees.
I gotta bed my arms. Man, I'll get I'll get
a tot edition next week. I would love to see
Jonas walk around straight legged for an entire day looking
like the Nutcracker. Oh boy, what else is new? Lee?
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This one is a little bit for Brady, but for everybody.
Would you rather take a holiday in Ireland or Italy?
Oh no, this is tough Italy. Doesn't it depend on
the holiday? That's a good question. It would be like
a vacation it rains. I mean Sat Patty's Day is
coming up, I'll probably That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I'd
do Ireland since we're in a movie in Italy. Spirit
(37:34):
of the moment. What to lake after Lake Como? Is
that the place where Clooney lives. Yeah, I'd have to
pick Italy just because happy wife, Happy Wife, so okay,
And it always rains in Ireland, right Lake Cuomo or
Como whatever, isn't it? Whatever it's called stop ber though
(37:55):
that was the bar you would have dumped it. There's
a lake George Clooney lives. It's really nice and I'm
gonna get I'm gonna get you something to dump right
now here. So look, this is this is what you
do on that lake? Are not? But it rains in
Ireland a lot, so I feel like that would ruin
(38:15):
your vacation. Why you're gonna be indoors smashing pops like
singing old songs And I don't even have to know
the song. I'm gonna learn it and I'm gonna be
singing it right with them. The people are the best
there By the way, Saint Patty's saying a Friday this year,
I think it is it is. Wow. I'm probably gonna
(38:35):
request off, just so you guys are aware of that.
You got off at six am on friend, that's all right,
all right, Hey, that's six hours, all right, come on,
six hours of drinking. Man, what day? I say, Patty's Day?
It's a Friday? What like, what's the three, seventeen seventeen? Yeah,
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because I remember celebrating it. I always celebrate because my
end versaries on the twelfth, So the ninth end the twelfth.
So I got married twice. Yeah, I did one in
the church and one on a beach. One that's the
national one in the church. You know, you gotta be traditional.
But then we weren't traditional. That's what we did. I
missed the beach portion of that, all right. The beach
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portion was pretty fun. Ours went straight from church to
Saint Patty's Day was pretty fun. To a mall next
to a golden gam was great during COVID. It's great,
so much fun. What else? One quick one? Bungee jump
or skydive? Neither I've done both. Bunch of jump, neither skydiving. Skydiving,
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of course it's more fun. You're just a contrarian, no,
I just you know, I like, not on my back,
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you played for the Redskins. Oh my god, it just
every time for me. That's who I played. Look if
you played from multiple our skins though, didn't you? Yeah?
I did. When I was younger, I played for the Braves,
were the first team, then the Redskins were the second team,
and then the Chiefs words third team. So yeah, so
there you go, noticing a trend there, you notice the
(01:46):
trend out. And then I played for the Indians in
high school, which was our feeder, the program fed. I mean,
didn't no one in your area of Pennsylvania think that,
like you could name your mascot anything other than that.
I think we were married to, you know, the tribal
tribal connection for some strange reasons throwing that out there. Yeah,
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I mean, I don't know, Q. I just you know,
that's what I grew up in. Is there like an
animal that's seen a lot in Pittsburgh, or like a
Nitney lion or something. Yeah, like, what's the anim in Pittsburgh?
Actually beaver, panther, beaver works, rabbit beaver. Yeah, we had
(02:29):
some big, strong rats. We had river rats, strong rats. Yeah,
hell yeah, so we should have been like the rivers
plan this week. We got the strong rats, We got
the strong rats. Yeah. The river rat. Yeah, deal with
a river rat. Do you ever see a river rat
fet They'll take it to you. Yeah. I've seen a
(02:50):
river rat give a pitbull all it could handle in
an alleyway one time when I was growing. Some people
have described join us as a river rat. Yeah. Hey,
you want to see a river rat? I go to
have a soon. A couple of months they're there, are they?
Oh yeah, rats out here look like pets. Rats in
Pittsburgh look like like a wild at. Like you need
(03:11):
a rifle or like a gun or knife. You don't
want even want to night. You don't even want to
get close to him. By the way, have you seen
the numbers on rats how fast they multiply? I mean
they can get it going like it's it's thirty a week,
isn't there Like rabbits too, they could do it too. Yeah. Yeah,
but I don't have a problem with rabbits. I got
(03:31):
a problem with rats. Yeah, I mean it's the tail
and I live in the Canajoe Valley. All right, it's
so crazy because right there about that, uh, if you
if you took the Brady Quinnez, if you took the
fur off of a off of a squirrel's tail, y'all
gonna do that again, same bit, Brady Quinnez. Well, he
(03:53):
knows Spanish. That's good. They went to Notre Day. Man,
what do you think that went to right next to Tijuana? Everything?
That's impressive? Not that was next to Tea one man.
So you're thinking geographically speaking, is the only reason why
he would know it. I'm saying no, I'm saying educational level.
You know, they do business all over the world. Where's
(04:14):
got better Mexican food? San Diego or South Bend? South Bend? Oh,
come on man, that counts all right, Carson Wentz Man,
all right, Carson, alright, let's go all right. So Carson Wentz,
the era of the Wentz and Washington Commando's run is over.
(04:37):
He has been released by the football team. And it
just feels like we kind of saw this happening. It
was headed in this direction, but It's pretty wild to
think that this guy was the MVP of the league.
And then since that time, after eleven games or whatever
it was, heading into week fourteen, whatever it was, it
(04:57):
was a December game against the Rams. That time, he's
gotten injured. The Eagles won a Super Bowl, They've gone
to another one, both with guys that spend time backing
up him in Philadelphia. He goes to Indianapolis that was
a disaster. He was the fall guy, according to jimmers say,
and then ultimately it was Frank Reich. And then he
goes to Washington, suffers an injury. Tyler Heineke comes in.
(05:23):
Next thing you know, Carson Wentz is battling trying to
get playing time, ended off the season poorly again, and
now he's out of work. It is a crazy turn
of events to consider where he was and all the
promise that he showed, and meanwhile, the guy that was
taken ahead of him, who everybody said Carson Wentz is
going to pan out better Jared Goff's career would I
would argue he's playing at an all time level, and
(05:45):
Carson Wentz is now looking for work. What the hell happened?
Thank you? Oh, I'm supposed to. Yeah, what happened? I
think it's a number of things. I mean, one, I
don't think that Carson Wentz lacks talent. I mean that's
the first thing. He got drafted where he got drafted
(06:05):
for a reason, and because I think people saw talent
in him, and at times he displayed that in his career,
especially early on when he had the momentum. He had
confidence and he had an organization that believed in him,
and the worst thing that could happen to him and
(06:26):
really within that organization is is he lost confidence in himself.
Whether that comes via an injury or not, or maybe
it was just more mental and someone else came in
and basically took over the team he was running, took
him to a super Bowl and won it, And so
everything he had done up to that point, where he
(06:49):
probably felt like he was the biggest reason as the
quarterback of a team that they were having success, was
all diminished. Because you had a guy come in behind
you who's not viewed as talented and now viewed as
good as you come in and be able to take
this team to the pinnacle. That I think really set
(07:12):
him back mentally, probably as far as you know, what
he's capable of as a player, what he's capable of
as a quarterback, questioning I think a lot of people
in the locker room even question just you know, his
ability to be that guy, or could anyone lead that team?
Could Nick Foles come in and lead that team? And
so I think those early struggles really plagued him, honestly
throughout the rest of his career. And it's hard if
(07:34):
you think about it from human nature, Who the hell
is going to get over that? If he stays healthy
through that season, he's not only the MVP. They probably
still go on to win the Super Bowl. You'd think
at least that's the trajectory that they were on. And
you think if Nick Foles could, Carson Wentz could at
least that season, the way he's playing his entire career
(07:55):
looks different. And so then after that point there's obviously
some I don't know if it's frustration or disgruntlement between
Wentzon the organization and went and Falls and all that.
So they move on from Falls, but they Joe draft
a guy who to come in and basically potentially replace
(08:16):
Wentz in Jalen Hurts, and so then that deteriorates So
then Wentz looks for a new opportunity and he goes
to a team in the Colts, where I mean, say
what you want, he obviously performed better than Matt Ryan did. Now,
he didn't down the stretch when they needed him to
the most. But it's also a tough call for any
quarterback who's going into a system in their first year,
(08:39):
trying to get down the chemistry and a new environment,
all these things around you, the opponents you're playing. Now
you go from an NFC team to an AFC team,
you know, all that stuff is a learning experience in
your first year. He didn't play awful. He didn't. He
wasn't the best quarterback in the league, but he played
some decent football. At the bottom line is or they
(09:01):
want to blame him, whether it's the vaccine and all
that had something to do with them. And then he
goes to Washington. Now Washington's trying to make him the savior,
new team, new offense, another year. I mean, it's just
that's where things start to spiral out and you end
up not having any success when you don't have any stability.
I mean, if you asked a defensive player who jumped
(09:21):
from three teams in three years, how would you say
he's going to play? Probably not well. I mean, I
think you could probably use that analogy for any organization
or any corporation you work for. You jump to three
different places in three years, you're probably gonna have a
hard time really settling in and performing at your best
until you get some more time they're around the people
(09:43):
you're working with. Yeah, I mean, I think that's that
about do does it? I mean, that's it's pretty pretty
cut and dry, and I just I guess what I
would add is, once you start having that disagreement and
being disgruntled with the organization where it started in Philly,
then that that bleeds into the locker room. And then
(10:03):
now you start hearing about how the players don't have
a healthy respect for for the you know, the quarterback,
or the relationships are strained, and then you draft a
new guy, and then now the locker room is divided.
You know, Now that becomes a narrative that's connected to
your name. If you're a call Carson Wentz, that was
(10:24):
that was a part of the narrative when he was
leaving Philly. Is is he a locker room guy? Is
he a guy that the players can get behind and
support and you know everything is staying in in balance.
That would probably be the only thing that I would add,
whether it was for you know, right or for wrong,
whether it was fear or unfair, whether it was accurate
(10:46):
or inaccurate. Once that becomes a storyline, that's something that
he has to also, you know, prepare himself to be
able to come back. And I just I think when
you find yourself being let go after one season one time,
you got a lot of soul searching to do. You
(11:06):
find yourself getting lot losing your job after one season
more than one time in two different places. I don't know.
I don't know how you handle that. I don't know
how you bounce back from that. I don't know how
you feel about that. I just don't know. Not not
being at the level he was at one point in
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time to ending up being a guy that gets let
go after one season multiple multiple times consecutively, I mean
makes sense. I mean, if I'm Kansas City, I am
jumping on Carson Wentz absolutely. I mean they've needed a
veteran back up the past couple of postseasons and Chad
(11:51):
had heughs now retired and you'd have to say, like, look,
this guy's got talent, and Andy Reid can maximize most quarterbacks,
so there's no doubt in my mind, like they should
be looking long and hard at Wentz and saying, look,
coming here as a backup, you'll get maybe some opportunities
here in some burden time, or if Patrick gets hurt
and we need you and now you can resurrect your
(12:12):
career in a place that you can maybe settle down
for a few years, you know, watch them and learn
some good football and not be bouncing around, and you
know you'll be in a place that you know, we
feel like is a good spot for you. So that
would make a ton of sense as a backup. But
I think if you if you go started going and
(12:32):
looking for places where you know, hey, I can just
get on the field fast, it might not be the
best situation for you to go to either because they're
waiting for a guy to come replace you, or you know,
they're just trying to get through to the next year
and you're just that stop gap guy, and that's not
going to help you with your career moving forward or
your development. It's only going to help that team just
(12:53):
get through another year. Until they can find the guy
to replace you. Let me let me ask you guys this,
not to jump on you, but let me ask you this.
They're saying they're going with Sam How Okay, they still
have Tyler Taylor. Taylor, I don't think it's Heineke is
still under contract. Well, he's still on the team, I believe.
I don't know or the possibility of him returning, but
(13:15):
he finished the season as a commander. All right. So
they're saying, Sam, how, but you just brought in Eric
b Enemy. Dan Snyder is saying that, you know, you're
feeling as though this the whole momentum of or the
pendulum is swinging in the direction of Dan Snyder maybe
not selling this team. They can't force him to sell it.
(13:38):
He doesn't have to sell it, and there could be
some feel good moments that take place. Does this set
the stage for them to go get Aaron Rodgers? Well,
Green Bay reportedly will not trade him to an NFC team.
(14:00):
That's been what has been speculated out there and then,
and so that would kind of cancel that out. Yeah,
and you've got two bidders in that case, and that's
the Raiders and the Jets, which it seems like, you know,
the the Raiders have to be willing to take that on. Okay,
let's let's do this. Let's do this. Here we go
yea all ready? Do you think that in the midst
(14:24):
of everything that they've done in terms of how much
minority outreach that they've been a part of in Washington
and combating some of the things that have been accused
or have been talked about, which hasn't all been race related,
but some of it. Um, do you think that they're
(14:46):
gearing up to try to pull off a trade with Baltimore? Um?
I mean it's in proximity that what the be able
to do it. I don't know if they would even
have the room to do it, but I just know
if you are a man in shambles and are on
(15:09):
your desperation m throw to try to make something work,
what would be better than bringing in Aaron Rodgers to
your team? Would arb Enemy or or Lamar Jackson? Well,
is there any sort of Now that's an exclusive, so
that's up up on. That's a two pros and a
(15:29):
cup of Joe exclusive right there. But is there any
bad blood or ill will between Bashati and they hate
each other all right, So that's probably hate each other.
I mean more so I would assume more so Rasadi
that like, yeah, they don't like each other. But but
that's business is business. I'm saying, if you could unload
(15:49):
and get get something in return for it, if you're
Baltimore when you can't get something done, who would be
the best bidder to overpay for a situation such as this?
It would be Dan Snyder. It'd be Dan Snyder. So
whether you like him or not doesn't matter you. I
mean that that would be interesting. That would be an
epic deal. You don't think that Bashadi would say absolutely not?
(16:13):
Just hearing him in in theory, yes he would say
absolutely not. Yeah, I just I think that a Derek
Carr would make more sense, if he'd even be interested,
or Jimmy Garoppolo would make more sense. I don't think so.
I mean I think they'll do that. I mean, that's
something that they'll get what they can do there, make
no mistake about it. Knowing the track record of who
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he is and how he goes after things, that would
be the one that if he could land Aaron Rodgers
or someone like a Lamar Jackson, is there anyone else
out there of that stature or that magnitude that would
be tradeable for I can guarantee you that's what the
Washington commanders are preparing to try to do. Watch what
(16:55):
I tell you. I just could you imagine Lamar Jackson going, Yeah,
it would be and plus with proximity like that would
be especially up there. Two very different places though. You
just got to know that the DMV is very different
from Baltimore. Baltimore is Baltimore like that, and and they
want it that way, and everybody around him wants it
(17:16):
that way. Baltimore is Baltimore. DMV is DMV, two very
different places. It does feel like Ron Rivera has got
to do something and Sam Howe I can't imagine answer that.
Ain't it going into and with Eric b Enemy having
so much at stake for way he wants to do
in his career, to go from from Patrick Mahomes to
Sam how I just don't. And And also that division
(17:39):
not exactly the it turns out to be. It turned
out to be a pretty good division. You got the
Eagles who almost want a Super Bowl, the Cowboys. You
know that. The playoffs, Yeah, three teams made the playoffs
and one played in the Super Bowl. Think about that,
they could have won with competitive against an elite team
in the in the NFL. So if you go, I say,
(18:00):
quickly before we get the break, If you guys had
to bet, who is the starting quarterback Week one for
the Washington Commandos next year? Who is it? Aaron Rodgers?
You're going Rodgers? Yes? Cool? Man? Um, I don't know.
I'll go Garoppolo. Yeah, I was just sick. Can I
just take other in the field. It feels like it
(18:24):
could be a draft pick. It feels like it could
be a number of things. But they're sixteen. Of the
three or four that you've been talking about, Brady, none
of those guys are going to be there at sixteen.
Richardson could be there. Anthony Richardson could be That would
be fun. Well, I take a chance, though. That's the
thing is, I don't think you're taking a chance on
(18:45):
that young man. I don't. I don't think there's any
debate about his skill set and ability. It's about making
it more consistent, like getting him to continue to grow,
you know, in the position, but just getting that high
level of play more consistent. I'm telling you that dude
could take the league by storm. Now, he could also
(19:07):
be a guy that gets in a bad situation circumstance
and never turn into player he could have been. But
he oozes with ability. Just watch him this week. Who
he throws. He's gonna have the strongest arm, he's gonna
go run fast as hell, and he's gonna look really,
really agile, and everything he does, he is a specimen.
(19:30):
I mean, if if there's anyone in this draft you
look at and say he's gonna be the most polarizing
amongst teams, it's it's gonna be Anthony Richardson. Because there's
gonna be some teams that are wild by his physical
skill set and they want to work with that. And
there's gonna be some teams that are like yeah, but
when you put on the tape, it's few and far
between that you see all those things come together to
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am a fan. I think someone's gonna take the chance
on him some of the top twenty for sure. Two
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Slash redeem rewards terms apply. Tis the season potential rule
change proposals have been thrown out? All right? What do
(21:17):
you guys think of sling verse slam? That apparently is
what is on the dog. Yeah, it's right after Summer Slam.
They got sling verse slam and that's the roughing the
passer idea that's been thrown out there by one team.
They didn't say which team it was. Was it the Rams?
I thought it might have been the Rams, but they
(21:37):
said that there's a difference between whether or not there's
a slam or a sling, which is considered part of
the progression, the momentum, I guess you will, of of
getting after the quarterback, and so they're trying to find
the separation between the two there. We're fortunate enough to
have our resident sling and slam. Doctor, Yeah, doctor, come on,
(22:00):
sling it sling or slam a quarterback. I would say
a sling isn't towards the ground. A slam is okay,
That's what I would say. When you're slinging, it's your
They're basically saying, if your momentum is carrying you through
(22:23):
the play there and I don't know that it is
physically possible to sling when your body is slinging, to
sling somebody down into the ground like it now becomes
a slam. Like A sling is like I got a
hold of you, my momentum is carrying me, and then
(22:45):
I throw you as as I'm you know, with my momentum. Now,
slam is you're taking their body into the ground. That's
what I would say would be the the Finn the
differences between a sling and a slam. A slam I'm
hitting you off of the ground. A sling is I'm
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throwing you and you're falling to the ground. I feel
like they've made this a little it's it's well, okay,
let me ask you this. Do you look at them
the same or do you say, okay, A slam should
be penalized, A sling should not be you're asking me
Q like I am asking you, Yeah, I mean you're
asking me, you know what I mean? Like like, so
(23:28):
what I want? I want to have you up so
I don't know. I don't I don't want any of
it to be a penalty stick. City go on us
to be able. I want us to be able to
do what do we do best with? Yeah? Right now? Yeah,
rag Doll, My knee is a little sore because of
the round who make him feel like a quarterback? Right now?
Ragdall that thousands. He put both his hands behind his
(23:53):
head and said, rag that made it. I don't want
to do it. What's wrong? I'm go going to do it.
People ask why we're not on We can't like televise this.
It's it's it's because for me, I would put it
on Berto first and foremost gonna shake his head, No,
you are the what No, Berto's the puppet master of
(24:15):
philth on this show. He's the one who controls all this.
He's the one who puts it all out of his system.
He don't say nothing inappropriate nowhere else. Berto, You know,
Berto leaves up out of this studio. BeRTOS is all
that craziness in there and wants in the minute Los
leaves the stud Hello, I'm a Roberto. Yeah, he's British actually,
how are you guys doing today that? I sure would
(24:37):
love just a little bit of tea? Please? Yes, can
you do a British a cookie? Just a cookie? Mother?
But that's how he speaks when he lives. That is
how Berto no native, I am daylon by your boss.
(24:57):
By the way, what happened if fig Newton's they still
make those? Ye got? My dad used to eat those
like a s which was the favorite ones though, because
the original is the original, the original, that's your favorite?
And yeah, that was the one that he always because
in the strawberry in the winter strawberries, and he went
original because the original was it's like it's like prune. Yeah. Nah.
(25:19):
The strawberry ones were like five and you eat four
or five of those? Oh you out of it? Where's daddy? Yeah,
Daddy's in the shower here the toilet flushing. Hey listen anyway,
So so here's the thing I don't I don't think
either one should be should be illegal, but I will
say this, if you touch a quarterback at this point,
(25:43):
it's a it's a penalty, they call a penalty. So
my whole thing is is, if they're trying to make
this for a quarterback position, you are now continuing to
further a rule and rules that that kind of keep
you from touching the quarterback. My my, my thought process
on where everything is going in terms of trying to
(26:04):
surround and protect the quarterback from from all of these
different things that can happen is just make it tag
Tag the quarterback. You can tackle anybody else, just tag
the quarterback. They'll be like eighty sacks a year for yeah, yeah,
and less penalties. And that's my thing. Either you're going
to allow him to be a football player and get
(26:26):
hit like everybody else does, or you're going to continue
to make rules where you're basically passively, aggressively saying to
the players, don't touch him. So you're saying that TWA
can stop taking his judo lessons, right, doesn't have to
worry about it because if they touch, And think about
the level of athleticism a quarterback has to exercise to
(26:48):
keep from getting touched. Here's what's interesting to me, though,
because you had a number of instances where this happened
this season, right, I think it happens to Rogers. At
one point, it happened to property in the NFC Chanship game.
Those weren't injuries sustained through like a sling or a slam.
It was just the fact that the quarterback's arm got hit.
And so you're obviously gonna keep training defensive ends and
(27:11):
or edge rushers and pass rushers to do that, are
you not, Josh Allen too right, Josh Allen as well,
there's another one and so you yeah, But but I'm
saying like that had nothing to do with this rule.
You're right. So I look at this and and to
your point, I just think, look, it's football, man, it's football.
I know we want to protect it. And we'll maybe
(27:33):
get into this um potential rule change with with the
NBA as their collective bargaining agreement. It looks like it's
it's coming together. But if there's a reason why you
have a backup, like I said this after the after
the game, then NFC Championship game, there's a reason why
there's a third quarterback designation because the league goes through
ebbs and flows where there's gonna be times when they're
(27:55):
defense has an advantage. And right now, the defense, if
you just line up four guys to rush against the
five offensive lineman, the defense has an extreme advantage. There
are better athletes on that side of the ball. Bottom line.
If that offends the one you think I'm lying or
making some stuff up, that is the that is the truth.
And it's as big of a gap as it's ever
(28:17):
been because of the type of athletes are getting want
to go play defense and the type of athletes are
getting on the old line. And a lot of times
now you're seeing guys you can't make it on the
D line transition to play O line because they're better athletes.
And so what we need to realize is we need
(28:37):
to put in measures to have backups that can come
in and play and do well. And we saw that
this season eventually to a point. But we also have
to have measures in to say, all right, like maybe
we need to be able to go deeper, Like right now,
we talk about load management in the NBA, which ticks
me off because what's the point of having a bench,
Like that's why you have a bench. You have a
(28:59):
bench so you have of a team that can come
in and give your players rest so they're not playing
forty plus minutes a game. It's not complicated. We complicate
this stuff and it's so it's crazy to me. YEA,
So even in this case like look sling, slam whatever.
It shouldn't be a penalty in the first place. It's football.
(29:21):
It's football, Like, you either need to protect your quarterback
better with seven man protections and other things to not
allow that to happen to him, or get the guy
to be mobile or get the ball out of his hand.
How about that. You can watch so many older veteran
quarterbacks get the ball out of their hand quick and
that's what they're taught to do to survive to play
the next down. So I just I hate the fact
(29:43):
that we're trying to like tweak and do all this
stuff these rules. I understand the intent. We don't want
to see the faces of these franchises go down, but
that's football. That's how it works. That's part of the game.
And now you're penalizing defensive players and hurting their game
and their ability to play the you know, the the
game way he should be played in finding them and
costing them money for doing what a lot of generations
(30:04):
of football players have done forever. I mean, I feel
like the rules makers look at it and they understand
what Q Jess said that there are flunk of athletes
that are playing defense. These days, and it's wow, because
you're now seeing guys that would have been safeties playing linebacker.
(30:26):
You're seeing guys that would have played linebacker playing defensive end.
You're seeing guys that would have played defensive end playing
defensive tackle. And it's all because of the amount of
skill and strength that that is involved. The understanding and
the knowledge of how to leverage a body, and how
to leverage your body and contort and get into areas
(30:49):
and and and grab body parts that that allow for
you to gain leverage. It's all there. And so to me,
by putting in these rules, like the targeting rules, the
way you hit the quarterback, you have you literally have
a strike zone for the quarterback, and and it's the
(31:10):
same place where you would throw a baseball. You gotta hit,
you gotta be able to get around the guy, you
gotta be able to beat double teams if you're a
good blocker, and you still have to land home in
the strike zone of a quarterback, which is you're basically saying,
with all of the rules with corners and the way
you hit, you're basically saying, we acknowledge the fact that
(31:32):
we know how good the athletes are on the defensive
side of the ball, and for that we have to
make the elements of what are considered and perceived to
be safety procedures. But what you're really doing is is
that you're you're trying to even the playing field so
that the success rate goes up on what's taking place
(31:55):
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I know. Would you rather your random topics? Sports or otherwise?
All right, lead to lap. What do we got, fellas?
Would you rather have the head the size of a
baseball or a basketball? Basketball? Basketball? So Beetlejuice or Andre
(34:32):
the Giant? Correct? Yeah, la, Andre the Giant was at
least proportional proportion. Had a big head, dude, but it
was proportional. Okay, well yeah it was base bar basketball? Jonas,
too much shonas, I'll go baseball? You would you're an idiot? Yeah,
remember that little head and beetle juice. I don't want
(34:52):
a basketball head, So you'd rather have like a little
beagle juice head? Yeah? Okay, all right, easier to find
there you go. You know they say it's a smaller
brain in there, then so I mean that's what they say. Yeah,
I'll go of it, prove the doubters wrong. Okay, well
there you go, all right, fellas. Would you rather always
(35:14):
lose or never play? Always lose, always lose? Yeah, I
mean I never played, so I don't really have a
shot open here. Yeah, I'll go and never played. It's
not my fault. It could be life, Jonas does that
had to be just a sport. It's not my fault.
You guys lost. I wasn't on the field. That's kind
of cold. I mean, you do really are just a contrarian,
(35:35):
are You don't have to take the blame. I mean
that is true. I remember our last game, our playoff
game senior year high school football. They lost, got absolutely
waxed by Lompoke at home, and I for years afterwards,
I said, man, I can't believe you guys lost that game. Well,
you're on the team too. I didn't play. That was
not on the field. You guys lost a Lompoke easily
(35:57):
touchdown favorites and got smoked by none sized team. What
else you got? Lee smoke? Guys? Would you rather lose
your knees or your elbows? My elbows? Elbows? What do
you mean to lose It means it would just be
like straight legged, straight armed? Oh godly, how you get
a breast your teeth? Yeah, I mean amongst other things. Yeah,
(36:21):
no kidding. Yeah, you know, got to be able to
bend to elbow to do a few more things worth
awhile in your life. Yeah, that is true. Um, well
that is true. I think elbows thought to think of this. Yeah, no,
(36:43):
Tod on this one. When Todd was taking a leak
in the parking lot, He's like, I was like, straight
leg or straight elbow. I don't want to lose my knees.
I gotta bed my arms. Man, I'll get I'll get
a tot edition next week. I would love to see
Jonas walk around straight legged for an entire day looking
like the Nutcracker. Oh boy, what else is new? Lee?
(37:11):
This one is a little bit for Brady, but for everybody.
Would you rather take a holiday in Ireland or Italy?
Oh no, this is tough Italy. Doesn't it depend on
the holiday? That's a good question. It would be like
a vacation it rains. I mean Sat Patty's Day is
coming up, I'll probably That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I'd
do Ireland since we're in a movie in Italy. Spirit
(37:34):
of the moment. What to lake after Lake Como? Is
that the place where Clooney lives. Yeah, I'd have to
pick Italy just because happy wife, Happy Wife, so okay,
And it always rains in Ireland, right Lake Cuomo or
Como whatever, isn't it? Whatever it's called stop ber though
(37:55):
that was the bar you would have dumped it. There's
a lake George Clooney lives. It's really nice and I'm
gonna get I'm gonna get you something to dump right
now here. So look, this is this is what you
do on that lake? Are not? But it rains in
Ireland a lot, so I feel like that would ruin
(38:15):
your vacation. Why you're gonna be indoors smashing pops like
singing old songs And I don't even have to know
the song. I'm gonna learn it and I'm gonna be
singing it right with them. The people are the best
there By the way, Saint Patty's saying a Friday this year,
I think it is it is. Wow. I'm probably gonna
(38:35):
request off, just so you guys are aware of that.
You got off at six am on friend, that's all right,
all right, Hey, that's six hours, all right, come on,
six hours of drinking. Man, what day? I say, Patty's Day?
It's a Friday? What like, what's the three, seventeen seventeen? Yeah,
(38:56):
because I remember celebrating it. I always celebrate because my
end versaries on the twelfth, So the ninth end the twelfth.
So I got married twice. Yeah, I did one in
the church and one on a beach. One that's the
national one in the church. You know, you gotta be traditional.
But then we weren't traditional. That's what we did. I
missed the beach portion of that, all right. The beach
(39:17):
portion was pretty fun. Ours went straight from church to
Saint Patty's Day was pretty fun. To a mall next
to a golden gam was great during COVID. It's great,
so much fun. What else? One quick one? Bungee jump
or skydive? Neither I've done both. Bunch of jump, neither skydiving. Skydiving,
(39:37):
of course it's more fun. You're just a contrarian, no,
I just you know, I like, not on my back,
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