November 23, 2021 • 40 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar tell you which Muppet, Gronk looks like. The Bears are pressured to fire their head coach midseason for the first time in their history. LeBron should have gotten more than a 1 game suspension but LaVar calls out Isaiah Stewart for being a fake tough guys. Taysom Hill gets paid and LaVar takes a victory lap for the Prop Bet Monster.
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the NFL. Obviously, another big man touchdown on Monday Night football.
We've been seeing more of those lineman catching touchdowns in
the NFL. Seems like we've been seeing more of those
on primetime. Is that is that our coaches just rolling
that stuff out to try and show off because there's
more people watching. The Miami guy, that was not intended
for him. He was illegal. That was illegal, Yeah, but
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that was a primetime game. I think that was That
was not a play call though for him. Who knows
the way Brian Flores on that team, who knows. I'm
just saying, like, and it makes it harder to defend.
And in that area of the field, you gotta come
up with creative ways of throwing guys to football. And
if you can look, if the defense is gonna put
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on any number they want on their side of the ball,
the offense can go ahead and they can they can
formation things so they can have your tack oligible to
be able to catch a pass and score touchdown. All right?
And do you think though some of the skill position
players are a little bothered, they're thinking of themselves like
we do all the work to make plays to get
down the field, like we should be the ones to
catch the touchdown? You don't think so? I think I
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think some guys are even more excited when they get
down that portion of the field. What like offensive lineman
thinking there's Thomas catching it. Yeah, of course. I think
if you're running back, those guys are the ones blocking
their tail off for you the entire game and finally
get a chance to get the big man. I mean, now,
I think Daniel Jones might have been frustrated by the
fact that the play before Andrew Thomas basically with on
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his man, so he left that touchdown and then he
got rewarded for it. So but but those are just
an example a couple of Dave Gettleman first round picks
that are working out well for the Giants. You know,
then it gets fair. And yesterday's game, when I saw
Gronkowski talking with Tom Brady on the sideline, I finally
came up with who he had bothered me for the
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longest time trying to figure out who Gronkowski looked like
to me. You guys remember the Muppet Babies and the movie.
Do you guys remember the movie? Kind of you guys
remember the American Eagle on them? Up. The gray is
like a bluish gray Muppet like one of the characters.
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He was an eagle, and I was like, man, he
looks like the Muppets Eagle the American looks like an eagle. Yeah,
he looks like an eagle. Bro the Muppets American balled Eagle.
I'm looking at it right now on on Everything I Love.
Let's go, Let's go live to our Muppets Insider lead
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the lad for the Latest Lead, Sam Eagle, Sam the American,
Sam the American. Uh, this looks nothing like Rob greg
Hold up Rob Gronkowski's face. Rob Gronkowski does have a unibrow.
This thing's had a unibrow. Yeah, take Away the Universe.
Look at look at him, look at him, look at him.
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He definitely looks like the Uni kills. You be watching
such a weird poll and Brady, I was sitting with
your guy had offered you drugs when I was doing
it was like one of those Funkadelic moments. But I'm
just telling you that's why it hit me. I mean, okay,
take away to Uni Brow. I didn't remember him having
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the Uni brow, but he looks like an American. The
problem is the unibrow is so denied, and yeah, I can't.
I can't take it away, Like I don't know what
you gotta look at the facial structure, like the hitch structure,
the beak. That's more. That's more what I was looking at. Yeah,
I don't. Let's move on. Yeah, but but but again,
and that will conclude our coverage of Monday Night. From
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here on the show, as we transition over Smooth American. Yeah,
well was that we throw it out there so people
agree with you. Um, now, here's the here's the It's
just the unibrow kills me, like I want, I want
to buy into it. It's just the unibrose. You know what, though,
I'm looking at them side by side. I see where
you're kidding it. Now that now that I've been able
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to bring up both look at side by side, Like
if you if you just took out the Uni prowl,
I think I see what you're talking about. What I'm saying.
I think I just like I took sometimes like, oh,
it's just the Uni browse get in the way you
take out the Uni brow. I think I see what
he's saying. He looks like an eagle man. It's the
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way his hair is the hit the head shape, the eyebrows.
I see your looking at it now, I'm there. I'm there.
That's why that's not wrong, all right? Uh and uh
now we move oward closely uh to uh to the
situation where things have gone from bad to worse. Uh.
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They were at the Bulls game last night. The crowd
started chanting fire Naggy. Uh. So that is now continued
on from the Bears over to the Bulls. Uh. Also
there's a report from a Jordan's Schultz who says that
according to so rss Um, Naggy has already lost the
locker room, that he was starting to lose it a
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little bit earlier, but they have he has really lost
it since then. Uh. So we've the boat is taking
on water. It is sinking, Brady Quinn. Uh And it
seems like we are coming up on the final days
of the Matt Naggy and Ryan Pace air in Chicago.
There for your guys, your your boyhood team, the Chicago Bears.
I love how you project that on me. I'll show you.
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I'm a document my Bernie Coast are injuriously. When I
was young, last time I checked it and played for
the Bears. Um, this is an ownership issue in my mind,
to the best of my knowledge, I don't think the
Bears have ever fired a head coach during the season,
you know that never, never, and and this is one
and where like, I'm not saying that they need to
fire him, just to fire him if they don't feel
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like he's done, you know, anything wrong. But this team
is just it's it's been mismanaged. I think they have
not been put in a position to succeed talking about
the talented players that they have, and I don't I
don't really see any optimism if you're a Bears fan
of Bears player, And that's the one thing that when
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a season gets like this, when you're a head coach,
you're selling hope. And there is no hope right now,
it feels like for the Bears. And so I don't,
I don't. You know, this might be a first in
their franchise's history. But the mccaskeys need to do something.
I don't know, maybe it's Ted Phillips, the president, Like
they need to make a decision and they need to
get they need to get started on fixing this. It's
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too good of a fan base. This has been you know,
say what you want about what the Bears have been
over the past, you know, since the eight five, you know,
since the eighty five Bears, everyone talks about. They need
to come a coming of age moment where they stopped
trying to become the Bears and they start trying to
become you know, the version of in the future Bears
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that can open things up offensively, like they're living in
the past right now, and that ownership, the McCaskey family,
Ted Phillips the president. They need to start with making
a change and then start looking for someone who can
come in there and be a leader with some of
the young talent they have, because they do have some
young talent. Fields can play the game man. You know,
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they got Moony a wide receiver and commit you know,
Allen Robinson's probably moving on. But they've got enough talent,
enough pieces there they should be able to make this
thing work. And it's been frustrating to watch what has
been really a team has been mismanaged and and now
they've got no hope. And I think it starts at
the top and that's been the problem because they fired
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Lovey Smith when he was ten and six. Uh, it
went ten and six. They got rid of him. They
brought in Mark Trestman and Phil Emory. That was a disaster. Uh.
Then they turned it over to John Fox. He at
least stabilized things. And then they got rid of him.
And then they went because they wanted to get silized. Well,
he because Mark Trustman and Phil Emory it was so
bad there that they just needed somebody to just get
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get the organization and back on track. He didn't hear
the winds weren't there? What? No, because like there were
so many issues with Mark Trustman and Phil Emery in
the locker room, all the drama, the dysfunction that came
out of there. You had a guy shove an assistant
coach on the ground in practice and then they named
him a team captain that week, Jay Ratlins. So at
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least the thought was John Fox, you know, is gonna
at least calm things down and if they're going to
do a rebuild, at least start there. They got rid
of him, They bring in Matt Naggy, who what what
did he hapen to have a full season of calling
plays for the Chiefs. I don't think he did. I
think he called plays for a few games, Let's be real,
no one's calling plays there for a full season besides
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Andy Reid. Al Right, Like he's just he's not letting
that up. I'm sorry. And and so Ryan Pace has
botched multiple first round draft picks. Whether you want to
go Kevin White or the situation with Trabinsky, or if
you want to go Leonard Floyd Aid or some of
these other moves that they've made, it's it's been awful.
And here we are, Matt Naggie's in his first losing season,
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and it's bad all the way around. It's bad. Uh,
Like the fans are tired of it. They're tired of
the crap. They keep hearkening back to the good old days.
And Ted Phillips is the guy that's been there the
entire time. And the thought is, well, if you can't
fix that, why do you expect everything underneath it to
get fixed? If you just continue to have the same
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repetitive issue. It's like in Washington with Dan Snyder, they go,
why are the why is Washington still struggling? Well, it's
the same people up top, Like, what what do you
expect if you're if you're trusting them to make the
hiring and firings. How do you expect this thing to
get turned around? And they find themselves in in this
point in time where Aaron Rodgers is going to be
leaving the division most likely soon. There's an opportunity here
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for somebody to take over that division, and the Bears
feel like they're a long way off. You know what
rich people do? Rich people? No, No, this is this
is real. Rich people make it seem like they're making
changes their decisions and when when they're a part of
companies or whatever. The perception maybe, but they make it
seem like they're making changes and stuff. So on the outside,
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like peripherally, they're like, no, no, no no, we've addressed this,
We've handled this, everything's fixed, everything's changed. It's like, well, no,
it's not, because you're still in charge. You just hired
someone to come in, or you clean house, and you
hire people to come in who still have to answer
to you, and ultimately you have the final say, you're
still like the puppet master pulling all the strings. I
mean that that's what's what this that's what it is
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and what it has usually been with bad organizations, there's
someone who's up top in a position of power, either
the owner or the president, whatever title you want to
give them, and they make it change to appease the
fan base, to appease the media, and they'll find a
qualified candidate who checks off some boxes just to kind
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of keep the smoke screen that they're the real problem
and it's not gonna change until they need to turn
over that. That's something else happened. You mean, like hiring
minorities at higher ranking positions in your organization, like things
like that. You mean, like your minority wife taking over
as the leader. What are you getting at? I don't know.
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I mean, I don't know. I mean, you got to
check off the boxes these days, right, I mean inclusion, Um,
you know, race relations. You gotta make sure you're you're
towing the line on these things. Let's make let's make
a black man the president of our organization, you know,
why not, you know, let's take a chance. Let's let's
let's let's have our let's have the wife, you know,
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be the face as the owner of the organization. You know,
I mean, like you know, Washington is playing well now
wait wait wait, I didn't mean yeah. I didn't mean yeah,
they are doing very well right now. Their record is
looking amazing. They are surgery. What is it? What three
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wins for something? A little heinichy on the four I
got four. Well, listen, it feels like five for them,
it's five. We just would give it this. I mean,
you know they're they're on the rise. You know four
and six, they're only two away from I mean, I
don't see so. And that's what we talked about this
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a little bit yesterday. If the organization has never fired
a coach in season, but if they come out and
they lose on Thanksgiving to the Lions, if you lose
to the Lions, how do you which one outweighs? Does
it lose into the Lions and getting rid of the
coach and figuring it out from there, or maintain the tradition.
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Is it a Jared goffled Lions or Tim Boyle? I
think if it's if, it's okay. So it's amazing. Look
coming into the game, they were like boiled. They're like
he's never started again, but he's got a cannon. Like
he's got a cannon for Norm It looked like a
water pistol. So the so the the Chicago Bears who've
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been around since nineteen twenty, like they refused to fire
coaches in season unless Tim Boyle beats them on Thanksgiving
and then all that history. So Tim Boyle basically holds
Matt Letting Naggie's job in his hands right now. That
is what we're saying. On Thanksgiving. You've never you've never
got posting, You've never heard of posting head coach, all right,
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trying to give up a pep talk to his team
to go and take out Tim Boyle like like that, guys,
I'm gonna lose my job if we lose to Tim Boyet.
This guy out here take about Oh my god, what
a disaster, man. I bet you everybody in that locker
room looking around like, hey, what do you think? Decision?
I hope he goes in there and lights it up.
I hope everyone business decision to grabbing like that video though,
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and Jonas Nie, I didn't say that. That's Robert serious, serious,
serious assistance. Oh my god, just a And they need
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to be on that neighborhood watch. And someone explains this
to me, please. Did Lebron punch Isaiah Stewart? How has
he only suspended one game because he didn't escalate it.
They're saying he elbowting and he elboating, good elbow. I
think he threw a backhand like elboating. Whatever he did,
it was intentional. It was you could make the case
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that that's what escalated it. And look, I'm a Lebron fan,
but I'm I'm willing to sit there and say to
you when a dude it's wrong, he's wrong. Were Well,
while we're discussing that, because the one takeaway I took
like this is this is just how I work. Right,
If you are going to jump up in somebody's face,
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I don't care who it is Lebron, I don't. I
don't care. At the point in time you decide that
you're going to jump up in somebody's face, don't just
jump up in their face, get a shot in. Man,
you're gonna wait all that time for this is this
is what I hate about tough dudes, right, I think
they're really really tough, because there's a difference between a
real tough dude and and a fake tough guy. All right,
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if I'm ready to go, like if if I get
hit in my face like that, and and and listen,
I'm not speaking hypothetically because I've been in enough practices
where I could give you a hundred stories how I
whooped somebody's ass or I got my own, I got
jumped and and and that's just what it is. Sometimes
in practices. If you're going to thump, then thump. Don't
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get up in the dudes face. You up in Lebron's face,
looking at him, saying what you're gonna say, Nah, grabb
him by his knack, or but pop him in his face,
or give him a shot in his gut, something like that.
You're gonna wait. You got all that time to do
whatever it is you're gonna do with Lebron right there
in your face, who already bust your face up, and
you're gonna wait until they start grabbing you. And now
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you want to start acting crazy and running around and
chasing after him. You ain't getting a Lebron after you
had your opportunity, you were not going to get close
to that man again. And you knew it. So all
you did was proved to the entire world because that
went viral across the world. All you did would show
that you're a fake tough guy. You're a fake tough guy.
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You're not You're not really. You ain't really about that smoke,
you ain't about that life. Don't ever act as though
you're gonna fight with somebody, because you're not that guy.
And I wanted to get that so I'm glad Isaiah Stewart.
I had the opportunity to bring you up because Brady,
I listen, if you're go on, thump, then thump. Yeah,
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that's that's that's what comes out to. Just a simple
simple head butt to the bridge of the That's why
you want to know why he got a two games
suspension for fake tough guy stuff. That's what that he
got one for, really like for for the incident. Then
he got another one for being a fake tough guy.
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Let me let me just say this too though, Like
I know, eight games a long season. You know, basketball
in the NBA, it's more physical than we give it credit.
Now it ain't what it used to be, but it's
still more physical than we give him credit. Then it
takes a toll and all that. But I do hate
when basketball players try to make this whole like football
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mentality or whatever, like, no, you're not not even close, bro,
because here's the deal is, football players don't take off
time just because of load management or because they're sore.
Like like we talked about Baker Mayfield. He's playing through
a lot of stuff right now, but he's out there
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and he's doing it because he wants to lead his team.
You know, he understands how crucial every game is now,
being that they're six and five in a tight division race,
in a wide open a f C playoff picture, he
can't afford to take off any time. There might be
times of practice where he takes off some periods or
takes off a day, but that's just so he can
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get to those games. So I just like the whole
load management thing and like trying to compare yourself to
a football player or toughness or that mentality. It ain't
even close. Man, different stratus don't even You don't even
have the luxury of allowing somebody to come in and
take your reps for load management like I would be.
I'll be damn I let somebody come in and take
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my reps. Like they get out there and they make
a sack or they get two sacks or oh my gosh,
they got three sacks. It's like, wait, we pay this guy.
We can actually just uh that next contract for LaVar
is well, let's see, that's a workout bonus. That's uh,
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that's a roster bonus. So we got to sign them
to the roster. We're gonna say, who Wow, you know what,
let's think about that. That's what happens in football. You're
not gonnahead that happened to Lebron James. You're not going ahead.
That happened to them, guys. Man, So Lebron jack Um, yeah,
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yeah he it was like a little short, little elbow
punch type of deal. But he did all that like
freaking out and flipping out. He had a chance right
there in the morm Listen, and I don't condone valance
and not definitely condoned being being composed and and and
showing restraint, but you didn't. He Hey, this is why
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frank Or has all the pressure on him. Frank Or
needs to get it done when he fights. I gotta
say this. I gotta be honest with you here, right,
Frank Gore is a running back. Like that's like that's
like that's like, yeah he is. But you gotta understand
there's levels to this. Okay, all right, there's levels. Okay,
So so like le le, let me give you a
great example, right if some s popped off when we
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was in Iowa City while we was double fisting and
audio brother that this is so fun. Let somebody have
disrespected Brady and then you'll find out what the levels are.
You'll find out what the levels of what that looks.
Because Matt Line or would have stepped in and like
because LaVar Arrington would have tore holes in that bar,
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they would have had to come repair the bar. I'm
telling you it would it would dudes, would I would
have been wiping that bar up. They would have been
like what Jess happened? There's levels. So what I'm saying
is if I'm out with Frank Gore and we're all out,
there are certain dudes that you're like, do if something
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pops off? I know for certain that this is what, Like,
there's even levels for me, Like when I'm out with
certain dudes, I know there's levels for me. Like that's
who I'm gonna be there somewhere to pop off. That's
who I'm gonna be close to. Remember the god who
is the reliever? Remember when Bryce Harper got in a
(22:54):
fight with the reliever for the Giants? Uh God, Okay,
what's that? What's that guy's name? Reliever for the anyway?
Um who cares? But but the point is, the point
is in the scrub football base. But the point is
the point is Yeah, the point is in the scrum.
The one guy who made the most noise was Jeff Smarja.
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Remember when he ran from the dugout he he gave
he gave his own teammate a concussion and it was
like you could tell, right, Okay, so that's the football player.
That's the guy who played football because he wiped out
his own teammate. And I think it was Michael Morris.
He gave him a concussion in the fight because he
just couldn't wait to get get into some Let me
just summarize with us saying this, like when when the
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Laura speaking to the levels of it. Just think about this,
all right, Like offensive players their mindset, they're incentivized by
getting to the goal line, Like they get to touch
the football, all right, They get to touch the ball
like they're they're a product of that, Like they get excited,
they're their motivation is getting that ball across the goal one.
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But they get to be a part of that. Sometimes
it gets to be them. When you play defense, that's
not your motivation, Like your entire mindset is I want
to destroy the person across from me, whoever has that ball,
Like you're every single play, your entire mindset is I
want to kill the person who I need to kill,
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to go hit the person with the football. Like it
is such a different mindset to explain to people that.
That's why it's like, don't, don't, don't make the comparison.
But but here's the thing, though, Olneman certain olignment. There's
levels to this. It's all about certain tight ends, certain
tight ends. There's levels to this thing. Like Jeremy Shaki,
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there's levels to it. Like if me and Shaki are out,
it's like if something if something bad is about to happen,
we gotta go, like we gotta we gotta go now,
like two pads go directly home, like do not go left,
two hundred dollars not go home, Like there's certain dudes
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that you just know. And my whole point of this
is not to be on no mo cheese moo type stuff.
What I'm saying is, if you're gonna be throwing trash
cans around and and trying to move coaches and your
teammates out of the way and and ushers get off
of me with your bloody face and all of this
and all of that, you should have thumped right then
and there, thump now or forever, hold your piece. Everything
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he did, everything he did after that moment had me
looking at this dude like, you're a clown, bro, a
big old, tall, long clown, and you made you made
an assid yourself and your family because there's somebody that's
sitting at home that when he was a kid, they
would have made him go back around the block and
he would have had to shoot a fair one with him.
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Real talk. That's real talk. Man. You can't do all that,
all that late that you're late. Don't be late, don't
be late. He right there, Lebron was right there in
his face like what's up? Like, what's up? Okay, I
did it. I bloodied your face. You see your no,
your lip, that was me. I'm right here in front
of you. You did nothing, so stop it. Wow, good
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for you. I feel bad. I'd be boxing him out.
I'll be boxing him out every time. I'm just thump
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Taysom Hill era will continue in New Orleans. He gets
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a reportedly a four year deal worth forty million dollars
for his current role. But bred Quinn, this is going
to turn into million dollars if he becomes the starting
quarterback over that time. So here we go, Taysom Hill
getting paid, the ultimate gadget guy getting paid with an
opportunity to approach a hundred million dollars. There's a quarterback. Well,
(27:15):
it's not even if he becomes the starting quarterback. Really
the number is two four pass attempts, which comes out
to thirteen pass attempts per game. That's the language that
would bump up what he wi end up making to
to equate to a quarterbacks contract as opposed to you know,
the contract that he's currently under or going to make
(27:36):
moving forward, which is you know, roughly a four year,
ten million dollar deal and about half of that's and guarantees.
So if we really want to break this down, they
gave Taysom Hill a two year extension. Now, you could
argue that are is ten million a year a lot
for a guy who's viewed as a backup quarterback or
a tight end, wide receiver, you know, wildcat quarterback, special teamer. Sure,
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but did you hear all the things I just said?
He is is in one roster spot, is able to
take up multiple things and provide value to an offense schematically.
And when you look at some of the backup quarterbacks
in this league who are now making upwards of six
million to seven million, it's like, well, if he can
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play backup quarterback and potentially go in and help you
win a game there, but he's also going to be
a dynamic player for you at times on offense, you know,
at any one of those positions, and also a special teamers.
You know, there's value in that, and I think it's
worth it. You know, the ten million or the twenty
million guaranteed that he got in signing and and he
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was gonna become a free agent after this year anyway,
so they had to extend him at some point, and
then they clearly value him as a player on this team,
you know, in the locker room, because it's not like
he's getting any younger. I think he's what thirty years
old now, so you know, this is the sort of
contract that I think it makes sense. He'll never make
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that top end value of it, at least in my opinion.
I just think that if they wanted to make him
a starting quarterback, they would have went with him this year.
This was the opportunity to do so, and instead you
went with Jamis Winston, who's now hurt. But even then
you could have done it with Taysom Hill. But now
we get Trevor Simeon, so you know they drafted in
book my guy, and so who knows what they're gonna
do this offseason. It's just it seems like this is
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more about providing his agent and Taysom Hill with Hey,
if this happens to work out this way, we'll be
glad to pay you that. But it's probably not because
they've had multiple chances to make him a starting quarterback
or give him that chance to throw thirteen pass attempts
for more per game, and Champagne just hasn't. If he
would have hit free agency, who do you think would
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have been the first team or coach to call about
Hill Bill? Bill. That's a Belichick guy through and through.
So yeah, there was probably gonna be opportunities on the
open market. And when is he in book going to
get an opportunity here? What are we looking at? I mean,
at some point we let's turn the page on Trevor
simmeon and go ian book man. I know, trust me.
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I was kind of surprised that wanted Trevor Simmon in
the first place, although he did help cover this past week,
and I'm sticking so actually, I think that bag sells
two weeks ago. That was two weeks ago. This week
they were awful, which which, by the way, can we
get right how you're supposed to play when you're down
fourteen points? Can we get this right? Like for some reason,
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Sean Payton, instead of going for it on fourth and
seven from the ten right ten yard line going in,
they kick a field goal to go down to eleven. Like,
I don't get it because you're still down two scores
after that fact, and then so many I don't I
don't want to get it. It's a whole analytic conversation.
But like this past weekend watching some of these decisions,
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going why would you go for a field goal? Was
seven minutes and change left in the fourth quarter, you're
still down two scores and you're playing with the backup quarterback. Anyway, like,
isn't this the time to go for it? On? On
on basically fourth and goal and try to throw it
in there. Not to mention, you're playing a four and
six team. Yeah, I mean, and you're you know you
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at the moment, you're five and four, and why not
why not be more aggressive in what you're doing. You're
playing a team that isn't a winning team. See the
one thing about when you play teams that aren't winning teams,
you just got to prove to them that you can't win,
Like if you can if during the game, even if
that team is up and they have the confidence of like,
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we got an opportunity, this is great now to die
and you find yourself in a scenario where you proved
to that team that has the losing record that you
can't win. It doesn't matter, you're not gonna win those
type of teams. There's something that triggers off. I've been
a part of it, Like you start to sit there
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in your mind, you'd be like, man, like we're doing well,
but I don't know if we can win, Like, I
don't know if we'll be able to pull it off.
It might be because of a player, it might be
because of the coach. Like we're talking about what happened
in Chicago, of what's going on there. I mean, there's
there's there's other places on me the Cleveland. I mean,
the idea of it is though Detroit, you know, the
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idea of it is is like, man, you gotta be
a little bit different and you're your posturing and your
approach when your team that is a winning team in
New Orleans is a winning team and the Eagles have
been struggling, So why would you even approach it that way? Yeah,
it was interesting. Through and through it is that two
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are um about that? So, uh so this is great.
Um So Kevin Durant was shown, um, you know, wearing
some sort of like new sneakers last night or something.
I'm not a sneaker had I have no idea what
the latest fashion it was with sneakers. I I you know,
that's that's more Brady's games. Not really my thing. But
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fans noticed that his sock was pulled out a little
bit and his legs were very dry. Very that is
an understatement, by the way, Okay, and so they were
making jokes and they were calling him a gray scale
off Game of Throns, Snakeskin all the other like it's
(34:43):
really sad, it's really it's really true. And so Kevin
Durant took to a Twitter last night, probably seeing all
the comments, and just wrote, I'm a about to pull
my y'all broke card in the second f y'all Like
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he's one of my favorite follows on Twitter because he
he will engage with fancies, has no issue whatsoever. He's
not above it. He absolutely will engage and we'll pull
that card whatever he wants. But you know, yeah, that
ain't that will not and I know, Katie, that's one
to home. He's he used to come in my restaurant
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all the time. Um, you know what, There's nothing I
can do to defend you on this one, bro, Nothing
I can and listen. If there's anything I can do,
I can say we've all been there. Like for me,
it's when I get off of airplanes for some strange reason,
and I wear flip flops all the time, Like I'm
a flip flop guy. If I could walk around beerfoot,
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I would, That's my thing. I don't like shoes. I
don't like my feet being confined, so I always have
flip flops on. And for some strange reason, when I
get off of flights, my feet look like I've been
walking in baby powder. And and if I if I
forget to have like hand lotion in my my like
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my carry on pack, I gotta walk through the airport
looking like I got socks on and it's my feet,
so I've been there. My altitude drives your feet out.
I don't know. I don't know dryer air man, I
don't I don't know why it's been happening like as
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a like the last year or two. When I fly,
I noticed when I when we land, I am ashy
is hell and I mean like ashy like Cady's leg ashy.
So now every time I'm a ash and I'll be
like I got that K d ash, Like I'm now
labeling my ashy. Noess the K d ash. I mean
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I can understand, like you know, I feet swelling up
getting off a plane. My feet swell up to like
I get the old man swell sometimes. So I gotta
Papa Peppermint, you know what I mean? Like Grandma got
that sugar leg You know, I mean you gotta put
some sugar. Yeah, you got You've never heard of somebody
at see this might be culturally speaking, right educated, culturally speaking,
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what you got, you can go ahead hit the Yeah, Grandma,
when they get you know, they had diabetes and this
sugar starts to get low whatever they starts swelling up,
Gotta Papa, what a poperul We've lost some our folks.
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You gotta Papa Peppermint immediately. Grandma's always have a piece
of candy and it's always usually a peppermint. You gotta
Papa Peppermint to get that sugar rush, to get your
sugar back up. Yeah, like agint peppermin I don't know,
but Grandma's is always a peppermint. You want a peppermint,
get that sugar. You gotta get that sugar. You gotta
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popprying right now because this because I noticed if there's
a lot of people out there listening that understood what
I just said, Yeah you got you know, just just
put some lotion on that, just carry. But when you're
swelling up because of the diabetes, you know that that
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that beat us. Um, you gotta pop that peppermint. Man,
Like when you get that that that sugar fat leg
you know, can I even laugh at that? Yes, you're allowed. Yeah, sure,
I promise you you're allowed to laugh at because there's
a whole bunch of people that they yeah, but they
understand it was the racist against diabetes. Yeah, well it's
racist because it's it's prevalent in the black community. It's
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in my community, you know, the diabetes. Why can't it
be my community? I mean it could be you know,
you you know realize here, man, you know, Black Lives
Matter made it fun to be you know, you know,
in supportive of that, that whole thing coming on that
and I've just said, you know, me neither actual. You know.
By the way, congratulations to LaVar, a big time winner
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in the prop that monster he is now leading in
this way to switch it out. It's so good at
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know now now LaVar hit. This was the difference. You know,
does Tom Brady throw an interception and um yeah, bounce
(39:20):
a reception? It was such a on Mike Evans Evans
and hit him like writing between the numbers. You gotta
take it in. But you gotta take it all into consideration,
you know. Yeah, but so you you foresaw that, I
foresaw somebody not catching the ball and leading to as
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a quarterback. You should start because you've talked about this before.
There's between interceptions and interceptions that aren't your fault, Like
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the NFL. Obviously, another big man touchdown on Monday Night football.
We've been seeing more of those lineman catching touchdowns in
the NFL. Seems like we've been seeing more of those
on primetime. Is that is that our coaches just rolling
that stuff out to try and show off because there's
more people watching. The Miami guy, that was not intended
for him. He was illegal. That was illegal, Yeah, but
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that was a primetime game. I think that was That
was not a play call though for him. Who knows
the way Brian Flores on that team, who knows. I'm
just saying, like, and it makes it harder to defend.
And in that area of the field, you gotta come
up with creative ways of throwing guys to football. And
if you can look, if the defense is gonna put
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on any number they want on their side of the ball,
the offense can go ahead and they can they can
formation things so they can have your tack oligible to
be able to catch a pass and score touchdown. All right?
And do you think though some of the skill position
players are a little bothered, they're thinking of themselves like
we do all the work to make plays to get
down the field, like we should be the ones to
catch the touchdown? You don't think so? I think I
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think some guys are even more excited when they get
down that portion of the field. What like offensive lineman
thinking there's Thomas catching it. Yeah, of course. I think
if you're running back, those guys are the ones blocking
their tail off for you the entire game and finally
get a chance to get the big man. I mean, now,
I think Daniel Jones might have been frustrated by the
fact that the play before Andrew Thomas basically with on
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his man, so he left that touchdown and then he
got rewarded for it. So but but those are just
an example a couple of Dave Gettleman first round picks
that are working out well for the Giants. You know,
then it gets fair. And yesterday's game, when I saw
Gronkowski talking with Tom Brady on the sideline, I finally
came up with who he had bothered me for the
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longest time trying to figure out who Gronkowski looked like
to me. You guys remember the Muppet Babies and the movie.
Do you guys remember the movie? Kind of you guys
remember the American Eagle on them? Up. The gray is
like a bluish gray Muppet like one of the characters.
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He was an eagle, and I was like, man, he
looks like the Muppets Eagle the American looks like an eagle. Yeah,
he looks like an eagle. Bro the Muppets American balled Eagle.
I'm looking at it right now on on Everything I Love.
Let's go, Let's go live to our Muppets Insider lead
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the lad for the Latest Lead, Sam Eagle, Sam the American,
Sam the American. Uh, this looks nothing like Rob greg
Hold up Rob Gronkowski's face. Rob Gronkowski does have a unibrow.
This thing's had a unibrow. Yeah, take Away the Universe.
Look at look at him, look at him, look at him.
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He definitely looks like the Uni kills. You be watching
such a weird poll and Brady, I was sitting with
your guy had offered you drugs when I was doing
it was like one of those Funkadelic moments. But I'm
just telling you that's why it hit me. I mean, okay,
take away to Uni Brow. I didn't remember him having
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the Uni brow, but he looks like an American. The
problem is the unibrow is so denied, and yeah, I can't.
I can't take it away, Like I don't know what
you gotta look at the facial structure, like the hitch structure,
the beak. That's more. That's more what I was looking at. Yeah,
I don't. Let's move on. Yeah, but but but again,
and that will conclude our coverage of Monday Night. From
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here on the show, as we transition over Smooth American. Yeah,
well was that we throw it out there so people
agree with you. Um, now, here's the here's the It's
just the unibrow kills me, like I want, I want
to buy into it. It's just the unibrose. You know what, though,
I'm looking at them side by side. I see where
you're kidding it. Now that now that I've been able
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to bring up both look at side by side, Like
if you if you just took out the Uni prowl,
I think I see what you're talking about. What I'm saying.
I think I just like I took sometimes like, oh,
it's just the Uni browse get in the way you
take out the Uni brow. I think I see what
he's saying. He looks like an eagle man. It's the
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way his hair is the hit the head shape, the eyebrows.
I see your looking at it now, I'm there. I'm there.
That's why that's not wrong, all right? Uh and uh
now we move oward closely uh to uh to the
situation where things have gone from bad to worse. Uh.
(05:44):
They were at the Bulls game last night. The crowd
started chanting fire Naggy. Uh. So that is now continued
on from the Bears over to the Bulls. Uh. Also
there's a report from a Jordan's Schultz who says that
according to so rss Um, Naggy has already lost the
locker room, that he was starting to lose it a
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little bit earlier, but they have he has really lost
it since then. Uh. So we've the boat is taking
on water. It is sinking, Brady Quinn. Uh And it
seems like we are coming up on the final days
of the Matt Naggy and Ryan Pace air in Chicago.
There for your guys, your your boyhood team, the Chicago Bears.
I love how you project that on me. I'll show you.
(06:26):
I'm a document my Bernie Coast are injuriously. When I
was young, last time I checked it and played for
the Bears. Um, this is an ownership issue in my mind,
to the best of my knowledge, I don't think the
Bears have ever fired a head coach during the season,
you know that never, never, and and this is one
and where like, I'm not saying that they need to
fire him, just to fire him if they don't feel
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like he's done, you know, anything wrong. But this team
is just it's it's been mismanaged. I think they have
not been put in a position to succeed talking about
the talented players that they have, and I don't I
don't really see any optimism if you're a Bears fan
of Bears player, And that's the one thing that when
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a season gets like this, when you're a head coach,
you're selling hope. And there is no hope right now,
it feels like for the Bears. And so I don't,
I don't. You know, this might be a first in
their franchise's history. But the mccaskeys need to do something.
I don't know, maybe it's Ted Phillips, the president, Like
they need to make a decision and they need to
get they need to get started on fixing this. It's
(07:32):
too good of a fan base. This has been you know,
say what you want about what the Bears have been
over the past, you know, since the eight five, you know,
since the eighty five Bears, everyone talks about. They need
to come a coming of age moment where they stopped
trying to become the Bears and they start trying to
become you know, the version of in the future Bears
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that can open things up offensively, like they're living in
the past right now, and that ownership, the McCaskey family,
Ted Phillips the president. They need to start with making
a change and then start looking for someone who can
come in there and be a leader with some of
the young talent they have, because they do have some
young talent. Fields can play the game man. You know,
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they got Moony a wide receiver and commit you know,
Allen Robinson's probably moving on. But they've got enough talent,
enough pieces there they should be able to make this
thing work. And it's been frustrating to watch what has
been really a team has been mismanaged and and now
they've got no hope. And I think it starts at
the top and that's been the problem because they fired
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Lovey Smith when he was ten and six. Uh, it
went ten and six. They got rid of him. They
brought in Mark Trestman and Phil Emory. That was a disaster. Uh.
Then they turned it over to John Fox. He at
least stabilized things. And then they got rid of him.
And then they went because they wanted to get silized. Well,
he because Mark Trustman and Phil Emory it was so
bad there that they just needed somebody to just get
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get the organization and back on track. He didn't hear
the winds weren't there? What? No, because like there were
so many issues with Mark Trustman and Phil Emery in
the locker room, all the drama, the dysfunction that came
out of there. You had a guy shove an assistant
coach on the ground in practice and then they named
him a team captain that week, Jay Ratlins. So at
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least the thought was John Fox, you know, is gonna
at least calm things down and if they're going to
do a rebuild, at least start there. They got rid
of him, They bring in Matt Naggy, who what what
did he hapen to have a full season of calling
plays for the Chiefs. I don't think he did. I
think he called plays for a few games, Let's be real,
no one's calling plays there for a full season besides
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Andy Reid. Al Right, Like he's just he's not letting
that up. I'm sorry. And and so Ryan Pace has
botched multiple first round draft picks. Whether you want to
go Kevin White or the situation with Trabinsky, or if
you want to go Leonard Floyd Aid or some of
these other moves that they've made, it's it's been awful.
And here we are, Matt Naggie's in his first losing season,
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and it's bad all the way around. It's bad. Uh,
Like the fans are tired of it. They're tired of
the crap. They keep hearkening back to the good old days.
And Ted Phillips is the guy that's been there the
entire time. And the thought is, well, if you can't
fix that, why do you expect everything underneath it to
get fixed? If you just continue to have the same
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repetitive issue. It's like in Washington with Dan Snyder, they go,
why are the why is Washington still struggling? Well, it's
the same people up top, Like, what what do you
expect if you're if you're trusting them to make the
hiring and firings. How do you expect this thing to
get turned around? And they find themselves in in this
point in time where Aaron Rodgers is going to be
leaving the division most likely soon. There's an opportunity here
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for somebody to take over that division, and the Bears
feel like they're a long way off. You know what
rich people do? Rich people? No, No, this is this
is real. Rich people make it seem like they're making
changes their decisions and when when they're a part of
companies or whatever. The perception maybe, but they make it
seem like they're making changes and stuff. So on the outside,
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like peripherally, they're like, no, no, no no, we've addressed this,
We've handled this, everything's fixed, everything's changed. It's like, well, no,
it's not, because you're still in charge. You just hired
someone to come in, or you clean house, and you
hire people to come in who still have to answer
to you, and ultimately you have the final say, you're
still like the puppet master pulling all the strings. I
mean that that's what's what this that's what it is
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and what it has usually been with bad organizations, there's
someone who's up top in a position of power, either
the owner or the president, whatever title you want to
give them, and they make it change to appease the
fan base, to appease the media, and they'll find a
qualified candidate who checks off some boxes just to kind
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of keep the smoke screen that they're the real problem
and it's not gonna change until they need to turn
over that. That's something else happened. You mean, like hiring
minorities at higher ranking positions in your organization, like things
like that. You mean, like your minority wife taking over
as the leader. What are you getting at? I don't know.
(12:21):
I mean, I don't know. I mean, you got to
check off the boxes these days, right, I mean inclusion, Um,
you know, race relations. You gotta make sure you're you're
towing the line on these things. Let's make let's make
a black man the president of our organization, you know,
why not, you know, let's take a chance. Let's let's
let's let's have our let's have the wife, you know,
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be the face as the owner of the organization. You know,
I mean, like you know, Washington is playing well now
wait wait wait, I didn't mean yeah. I didn't mean yeah,
they are doing very well right now. Their record is
looking amazing. They are surgery. What is it? What three
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wins for something? A little heinichy on the four I
got four. Well, listen, it feels like five for them,
it's five. We just would give it this. I mean,
you know they're they're on the rise. You know four
and six, they're only two away from I mean, I
don't see so. And that's what we talked about this
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a little bit yesterday. If the organization has never fired
a coach in season, but if they come out and
they lose on Thanksgiving to the Lions, if you lose
to the Lions, how do you which one outweighs? Does
it lose into the Lions and getting rid of the
coach and figuring it out from there, or maintain the tradition.
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Is it a Jared goffled Lions or Tim Boyle? I
think if it's if, it's okay. So it's amazing. Look
coming into the game, they were like boiled. They're like
he's never started again, but he's got a cannon. Like
he's got a cannon for Norm It looked like a
water pistol. So the so the the Chicago Bears who've
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been around since nineteen twenty, like they refused to fire
coaches in season unless Tim Boyle beats them on Thanksgiving
and then all that history. So Tim Boyle basically holds
Matt Letting Naggie's job in his hands right now. That
is what we're saying. On Thanksgiving. You've never you've never
got posting, You've never heard of posting head coach, all right,
(14:28):
trying to give up a pep talk to his team
to go and take out Tim Boyle like like that, guys,
I'm gonna lose my job if we lose to Tim Boyet.
This guy out here take about Oh my god, what
a disaster, man. I bet you everybody in that locker
room looking around like, hey, what do you think? Decision?
I hope he goes in there and lights it up.
I hope everyone business decision to grabbing like that video though,
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and Jonas Nie, I didn't say that. That's Robert serious, serious,
serious assistance. Oh my god, just a And they need
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to be on that neighborhood watch. And someone explains this
to me, please. Did Lebron punch Isaiah Stewart? How has
he only suspended one game because he didn't escalate it.
They're saying he elbowting and he elboating, good elbow. I
think he threw a backhand like elboating. Whatever he did,
it was intentional. It was you could make the case
(16:27):
that that's what escalated it. And look, I'm a Lebron fan,
but I'm I'm willing to sit there and say to
you when a dude it's wrong, he's wrong. Were Well,
while we're discussing that, because the one takeaway I took
like this is this is just how I work. Right,
If you are going to jump up in somebody's face,
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I don't care who it is Lebron, I don't. I
don't care. At the point in time you decide that
you're going to jump up in somebody's face, don't just
jump up in their face, get a shot in. Man,
you're gonna wait all that time for this is this
is what I hate about tough dudes, right, I think
they're really really tough, because there's a difference between a
real tough dude and and a fake tough guy. All right,
(17:08):
if I'm ready to go, like if if I get
hit in my face like that, and and and listen,
I'm not speaking hypothetically because I've been in enough practices
where I could give you a hundred stories how I
whooped somebody's ass or I got my own, I got
jumped and and and that's just what it is. Sometimes
in practices. If you're going to thump, then thump. Don't
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get up in the dudes face. You up in Lebron's face,
looking at him, saying what you're gonna say, Nah, grabb
him by his knack, or but pop him in his face,
or give him a shot in his gut, something like that.
You're gonna wait. You got all that time to do
whatever it is you're gonna do with Lebron right there
in your face, who already bust your face up, and
you're gonna wait until they start grabbing you. And now
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you want to start acting crazy and running around and
chasing after him. You ain't getting a Lebron after you
had your opportunity, you were not going to get close
to that man again. And you knew it. So all
you did was proved to the entire world because that
went viral across the world. All you did would show
that you're a fake tough guy. You're a fake tough guy.
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You're not You're not really. You ain't really about that smoke,
you ain't about that life. Don't ever act as though
you're gonna fight with somebody, because you're not that guy.
And I wanted to get that so I'm glad Isaiah Stewart.
I had the opportunity to bring you up because Brady,
I listen, if you're go on, thump, then thump. Yeah,
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that's that's that's what comes out to. Just a simple
simple head butt to the bridge of the That's why
you want to know why he got a two games
suspension for fake tough guy stuff. That's what that he
got one for, really like for for the incident. Then
he got another one for being a fake tough guy.
(18:55):
Let me let me just say this too though, Like
I know, eight games a long season. You know, basketball
in the NBA, it's more physical than we give it credit.
Now it ain't what it used to be, but it's
still more physical than we give him credit. Then it
takes a toll and all that. But I do hate
when basketball players try to make this whole like football
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mentality or whatever, like, no, you're not not even close, bro,
because here's the deal is, football players don't take off
time just because of load management or because they're sore.
Like like we talked about Baker Mayfield. He's playing through
a lot of stuff right now, but he's out there
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and he's doing it because he wants to lead his team.
You know, he understands how crucial every game is now,
being that they're six and five in a tight division race,
in a wide open a f C playoff picture, he
can't afford to take off any time. There might be
times of practice where he takes off some periods or
takes off a day, but that's just so he can
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get to those games. So I just like the whole
load management thing and like trying to compare yourself to
a football player or toughness or that mentality. It ain't
even close. Man, different stratus don't even You don't even
have the luxury of allowing somebody to come in and
take your reps for load management like I would be.
I'll be damn I let somebody come in and take
(20:19):
my reps. Like they get out there and they make
a sack or they get two sacks or oh my gosh,
they got three sacks. It's like, wait, we pay this guy.
We can actually just uh that next contract for LaVar
is well, let's see, that's a workout bonus. That's uh,
(20:42):
that's a roster bonus. So we got to sign them
to the roster. We're gonna say, who Wow, you know what,
let's think about that. That's what happens in football. You're
not gonnahead that happened to Lebron James. You're not going ahead.
That happened to them, guys. Man, So Lebron jack Um, yeah,
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yeah he it was like a little short, little elbow
punch type of deal. But he did all that like
freaking out and flipping out. He had a chance right
there in the morm Listen, and I don't condone valance
and not definitely condoned being being composed and and and
showing restraint, but you didn't. He Hey, this is why
(21:24):
frank Or has all the pressure on him. Frank Or
needs to get it done when he fights. I gotta
say this. I gotta be honest with you here, right,
Frank Gore is a running back. Like that's like that's
like that's like, yeah he is. But you gotta understand
there's levels to this. Okay, all right, there's levels. Okay,
So so like le le, let me give you a
great example, right if some s popped off when we
(21:47):
was in Iowa City while we was double fisting and
audio brother that this is so fun. Let somebody have
disrespected Brady and then you'll find out what the levels are.
You'll find out what the levels of what that looks.
Because Matt Line or would have stepped in and like
because LaVar Arrington would have tore holes in that bar,
(22:08):
they would have had to come repair the bar. I'm
telling you it would it would dudes, would I would
have been wiping that bar up. They would have been
like what Jess happened? There's levels. So what I'm saying
is if I'm out with Frank Gore and we're all out,
there are certain dudes that you're like, do if something
(22:31):
pops off? I know for certain that this is what, Like,
there's even levels for me, Like when I'm out with
certain dudes, I know there's levels for me. Like that's
who I'm gonna be there somewhere to pop off. That's
who I'm gonna be close to. Remember the god who
is the reliever? Remember when Bryce Harper got in a
(22:54):
fight with the reliever for the Giants? Uh God, Okay,
what's that? What's that guy's name? Reliever for the anyway?
Um who cares? But but the point is, the point
is in the scrub football base. But the point is
the point is Yeah, the point is in the scrum.
The one guy who made the most noise was Jeff Smarja.
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Remember when he ran from the dugout he he gave
he gave his own teammate a concussion and it was
like you could tell, right, Okay, so that's the football player.
That's the guy who played football because he wiped out
his own teammate. And I think it was Michael Morris.
He gave him a concussion in the fight because he
just couldn't wait to get get into some Let me
just summarize with us saying this, like when when the
(23:38):
Laura speaking to the levels of it. Just think about this,
all right, Like offensive players their mindset, they're incentivized by
getting to the goal line, Like they get to touch
the football, all right, They get to touch the ball
like they're they're a product of that, Like they get excited,
they're their motivation is getting that ball across the goal one.
(23:58):
But they get to be a part of that. Sometimes
it gets to be them. When you play defense, that's
not your motivation, Like your entire mindset is I want
to destroy the person across from me, whoever has that ball,
Like you're every single play, your entire mindset is I
want to kill the person who I need to kill,
(24:22):
to go hit the person with the football. Like it
is such a different mindset to explain to people that.
That's why it's like, don't, don't, don't make the comparison.
But but here's the thing, though, Olneman certain olignment. There's
levels to this. It's all about certain tight ends, certain
tight ends. There's levels to this thing. Like Jeremy Shaki,
(24:43):
there's levels to it. Like if me and Shaki are out,
it's like if something if something bad is about to happen,
we gotta go, like we gotta we gotta go now,
like two pads go directly home, like do not go left,
two hundred dollars not go home, Like there's certain dudes
(25:03):
that you just know. And my whole point of this
is not to be on no mo cheese moo type stuff.
What I'm saying is, if you're gonna be throwing trash
cans around and and trying to move coaches and your
teammates out of the way and and ushers get off
of me with your bloody face and all of this
and all of that, you should have thumped right then
and there, thump now or forever, hold your piece. Everything
(25:27):
he did, everything he did after that moment had me
looking at this dude like, you're a clown, bro, a
big old, tall, long clown, and you made you made
an assid yourself and your family because there's somebody that's
sitting at home that when he was a kid, they
would have made him go back around the block and
he would have had to shoot a fair one with him.
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Real talk. That's real talk. Man. You can't do all that,
all that late that you're late. Don't be late, don't
be late. He right there, Lebron was right there in
his face like what's up? Like, what's up? Okay, I
did it. I bloodied your face. You see your no,
your lip, that was me. I'm right here in front
of you. You did nothing, so stop it. Wow, good
(26:11):
for you. I feel bad. I'd be boxing him out.
I'll be boxing him out every time. I'm just thump
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Taysom Hill era will continue in New Orleans. He gets
(26:53):
a reportedly a four year deal worth forty million dollars
for his current role. But bred Quinn, this is going
to turn into million dollars if he becomes the starting
quarterback over that time. So here we go, Taysom Hill
getting paid, the ultimate gadget guy getting paid with an
opportunity to approach a hundred million dollars. There's a quarterback. Well,
(27:15):
it's not even if he becomes the starting quarterback. Really
the number is two four pass attempts, which comes out
to thirteen pass attempts per game. That's the language that
would bump up what he wi end up making to
to equate to a quarterbacks contract as opposed to you know,
the contract that he's currently under or going to make
(27:36):
moving forward, which is you know, roughly a four year,
ten million dollar deal and about half of that's and guarantees.
So if we really want to break this down, they
gave Taysom Hill a two year extension. Now, you could
argue that are is ten million a year a lot
for a guy who's viewed as a backup quarterback or
a tight end, wide receiver, you know, wildcat quarterback, special teamer. Sure,
(28:00):
but did you hear all the things I just said?
He is is in one roster spot, is able to
take up multiple things and provide value to an offense schematically.
And when you look at some of the backup quarterbacks
in this league who are now making upwards of six
million to seven million, it's like, well, if he can
(28:21):
play backup quarterback and potentially go in and help you
win a game there, but he's also going to be
a dynamic player for you at times on offense, you know,
at any one of those positions, and also a special teamers.
You know, there's value in that, and I think it's
worth it. You know, the ten million or the twenty
million guaranteed that he got in signing and and he
(28:41):
was gonna become a free agent after this year anyway,
so they had to extend him at some point, and
then they clearly value him as a player on this team,
you know, in the locker room, because it's not like
he's getting any younger. I think he's what thirty years
old now, so you know, this is the sort of
contract that I think it makes sense. He'll never make
(29:02):
that top end value of it, at least in my opinion.
I just think that if they wanted to make him
a starting quarterback, they would have went with him this year.
This was the opportunity to do so, and instead you
went with Jamis Winston, who's now hurt. But even then
you could have done it with Taysom Hill. But now
we get Trevor Simeon, so you know they drafted in
book my guy, and so who knows what they're gonna
do this offseason. It's just it seems like this is
(29:23):
more about providing his agent and Taysom Hill with Hey,
if this happens to work out this way, we'll be
glad to pay you that. But it's probably not because
they've had multiple chances to make him a starting quarterback
or give him that chance to throw thirteen pass attempts
for more per game, and Champagne just hasn't. If he
would have hit free agency, who do you think would
(29:45):
have been the first team or coach to call about
Hill Bill? Bill. That's a Belichick guy through and through.
So yeah, there was probably gonna be opportunities on the
open market. And when is he in book going to
get an opportunity here? What are we looking at? I mean,
at some point we let's turn the page on Trevor
simmeon and go ian book man. I know, trust me.
(30:05):
I was kind of surprised that wanted Trevor Simmon in
the first place, although he did help cover this past week,
and I'm sticking so actually, I think that bag sells
two weeks ago. That was two weeks ago. This week
they were awful, which which, by the way, can we
get right how you're supposed to play when you're down
fourteen points? Can we get this right? Like for some reason,
(30:27):
Sean Payton, instead of going for it on fourth and
seven from the ten right ten yard line going in,
they kick a field goal to go down to eleven. Like,
I don't get it because you're still down two scores
after that fact, and then so many I don't I
don't want to get it. It's a whole analytic conversation.
But like this past weekend watching some of these decisions,
(30:48):
going why would you go for a field goal? Was
seven minutes and change left in the fourth quarter, you're
still down two scores and you're playing with the backup quarterback. Anyway, like,
isn't this the time to go for it? On? On
on basically fourth and goal and try to throw it
in there. Not to mention, you're playing a four and
six team. Yeah, I mean, and you're you know you
(31:09):
at the moment, you're five and four, and why not
why not be more aggressive in what you're doing. You're
playing a team that isn't a winning team. See the
one thing about when you play teams that aren't winning teams,
you just got to prove to them that you can't win,
Like if you can if during the game, even if
that team is up and they have the confidence of like,
(31:30):
we got an opportunity, this is great now to die
and you find yourself in a scenario where you proved
to that team that has the losing record that you
can't win. It doesn't matter, you're not gonna win those
type of teams. There's something that triggers off. I've been
a part of it, Like you start to sit there
(31:50):
in your mind, you'd be like, man, like we're doing well,
but I don't know if we can win, Like, I
don't know if we'll be able to pull it off.
It might be because of a player, it might be
because of the coach. Like we're talking about what happened
in Chicago, of what's going on there. I mean, there's
there's there's other places on me the Cleveland. I mean,
the idea of it is though Detroit, you know, the
(32:11):
idea of it is is like, man, you gotta be
a little bit different and you're your posturing and your
approach when your team that is a winning team in
New Orleans is a winning team and the Eagles have
been struggling, So why would you even approach it that way? Yeah,
it was interesting. Through and through it is that two
pros and a cup of Joe here Fox Eagles are
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(33:58):
are um about that? So, uh so this is great.
Um So Kevin Durant was shown, um, you know, wearing
some sort of like new sneakers last night or something.
I'm not a sneaker had I have no idea what
the latest fashion it was with sneakers. I I you know,
that's that's more Brady's games. Not really my thing. But
(34:20):
fans noticed that his sock was pulled out a little
bit and his legs were very dry. Very that is
an understatement, by the way, Okay, and so they were
making jokes and they were calling him a gray scale
off Game of Throns, Snakeskin all the other like it's
(34:43):
really sad, it's really it's really true. And so Kevin
Durant took to a Twitter last night, probably seeing all
the comments, and just wrote, I'm a about to pull
my y'all broke card in the second f y'all Like
(35:06):
he's one of my favorite follows on Twitter because he
he will engage with fancies, has no issue whatsoever. He's
not above it. He absolutely will engage and we'll pull
that card whatever he wants. But you know, yeah, that
ain't that will not and I know, Katie, that's one
to home. He's he used to come in my restaurant
(35:26):
all the time. Um, you know what, There's nothing I
can do to defend you on this one, bro, Nothing
I can and listen. If there's anything I can do,
I can say we've all been there. Like for me,
it's when I get off of airplanes for some strange reason,
and I wear flip flops all the time, Like I'm
a flip flop guy. If I could walk around beerfoot,
(35:47):
I would, That's my thing. I don't like shoes. I
don't like my feet being confined, so I always have
flip flops on. And for some strange reason, when I
get off of flights, my feet look like I've been
walking in baby powder. And and if I if I
forget to have like hand lotion in my my like
(36:07):
my carry on pack, I gotta walk through the airport
looking like I got socks on and it's my feet,
so I've been there. My altitude drives your feet out.
I don't know. I don't know dryer air man, I
don't I don't know why it's been happening like as
(36:27):
a like the last year or two. When I fly,
I noticed when I when we land, I am ashy
is hell and I mean like ashy like Cady's leg ashy.
So now every time I'm a ash and I'll be
like I got that K d ash, Like I'm now
labeling my ashy. Noess the K d ash. I mean
(36:48):
I can understand, like you know, I feet swelling up
getting off a plane. My feet swell up to like
I get the old man swell sometimes. So I gotta
Papa Peppermint, you know what I mean? Like Grandma got
that sugar leg You know, I mean you gotta put
some sugar. Yeah, you got You've never heard of somebody
at see this might be culturally speaking, right educated, culturally speaking,
(37:11):
what you got, you can go ahead hit the Yeah, Grandma,
when they get you know, they had diabetes and this
sugar starts to get low whatever they starts swelling up,
Gotta Papa, what a poperul We've lost some our folks.
(37:31):
You gotta Papa Peppermint immediately. Grandma's always have a piece
of candy and it's always usually a peppermint. You gotta
Papa Peppermint to get that sugar rush, to get your
sugar back up. Yeah, like agint peppermin I don't know,
but Grandma's is always a peppermint. You want a peppermint,
get that sugar. You gotta get that sugar. You gotta
(37:52):
popprying right now because this because I noticed if there's
a lot of people out there listening that understood what
I just said, Yeah you got you know, just just
put some lotion on that, just carry. But when you're
swelling up because of the diabetes, you know that that
(38:13):
that beat us. Um, you gotta pop that peppermint. Man,
Like when you get that that that sugar fat leg
you know, can I even laugh at that? Yes, you're allowed. Yeah, sure,
I promise you you're allowed to laugh at because there's
a whole bunch of people that they yeah, but they
understand it was the racist against diabetes. Yeah, well it's
racist because it's it's prevalent in the black community. It's
(38:35):
in my community, you know, the diabetes. Why can't it
be my community? I mean it could be you know,
you you know realize here, man, you know, Black Lives
Matter made it fun to be you know, you know,
in supportive of that, that whole thing coming on that
and I've just said, you know, me neither actual. You know.
By the way, congratulations to LaVar, a big time winner
(38:56):
in the prop that monster he is now leading in
this way to switch it out. It's so good at
switch and stuff up. It was like the braks, hit
the brakes, get him out of there. Mayday, mayday. You
know now now LaVar hit. This was the difference. You know,
does Tom Brady throw an interception and um yeah, bounce
(39:20):
a reception? It was such a on Mike Evans Evans
and hit him like writing between the numbers. You gotta
take it in. But you gotta take it all into consideration,
you know. Yeah, but so you you foresaw that, I
foresaw somebody not catching the ball and leading to as
(39:43):
a quarterback. You should start because you've talked about this before.
There's between interceptions and interceptions that aren't your fault, Like
is there a stat like with we just love like
errors and football guys. Hey, guys, hey guys, Yeah, I
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