March 3, 2026 • 40 mins
In Hour 2 of the show, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington discuss Bruce Pearls recent comments on Miami (OH) potentially making the NCAA Tourney in a few weeks. Plus, the guys ponder the return of Daniel Jones to Indianapolis brewing, cut season is upon us in the NFL offseason, and more!!
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Yeah, in a little place called Oxford, Ohio. Undefeated, one
of the best teams in college basketball to some to
others not so much.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
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Speaker 5 (02:08):
This conversing, by the way, two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, and this conversation
heat it up a little bit because Bruce Pearl was
on TNT, former Auburn coach, and he had this to
say last week about Miami of Ohio and the prospects
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of them getting into the tournament. A team that's undefeated,
a team that's in the top twenty five. This from
Bruce Pearl last week.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Miami, Howe, here's the deal.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Are we gonna select the sixty eight most deserving teams
or were going to select the sixty eight best teams.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
If selecting the sixty eight best teams.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Then Mia mohow is gonna have to win their tournament
to qualify.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
As a champion because as in at.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
Large, they are not one of the best teams in
the country, and that's going to be a difficult choice
for the committee to make.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Now, Bruce Pearl's son is currently the head coach at Auburn.
He took over for his dad, who decided to walk
away this offseason, and so Auburn struggled a little bit.
They're one of these teams that are going to need
to do some things to try and get into the tournament.
And so in discussing this on Wake Up Barstool on
FS one yesterday, Bruce Pearl was explaining sort of what
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Auburn needed to do and what his son needed to
do to get that team into the tournament, and Dave
Portnoy made sure to point out that, you know, maybe
there was a little bit of a conflict of interest
potentially between Miami of Ohio and Auburn based on the
Pearl relationship.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Let's sick a listen, you.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
Know it's a They are a last four in and
you never want to be the last four in because
any upset in the tournament and you're the first four out.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
So they got LSU tomorrow. They've got to be LSU.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
The last REGL season game is at Alabama, and that's
gonna be that's gonna be hard. Now we did win
there last year, but Alabama's playing really well. They're a
team right now that as you're looking for, who might
be a Sweet sixteen team that could slip into the
Elite eight the way Alabama's playing, and so I don't
know that they get that one.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Here's what Auburn's gonna do.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
They're gonna be there to shoot home and they probably
need to win their first round in the SEC tournament.
They've got five quad one wins, they've got the best
winning college basketball on the road at Florida. As far
as that margin, it's either the best or one of
the best. So they got a little bit more work
to do.
Speaker 8 (04:25):
And then you got to foot them on your Ohio
shirt and you're gonna be rooting for them in the tournament.
And I'd love to be behind closed doors if you
have to cast a vote and it's Auburn or a
one loss Ohio team from the tournament and see which
way this vote goes, because I got a feeling I
know which.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Way is going.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
There's no love of my son, I mean, I mean,
you know there's no nepotism.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Involved here now.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Bruce Pearl also made a point to say the following
when it came to Miami of Ohio, who, by the way,
keep in mind undefeated, right, They are an undefeated team.
They are in the top twenty five current at nineteen
at twenty nine to zero. Bruce Pearl said the following quote,
They're not built for the grind of the Big Ten
or even the Big East. In the Big East Conference
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this year, they'd finish in the lower half. They may
not finish last. But I tell you what, I'm not
so sure. I'm not so sure who is the last
place team. It would be to Paul, it would be Marquette.
I don't know so now. David Saylor, who's the athletic
director at Miami o Ohio, he went on social media
and said the following to Bruce Pearl quote, you are
flat out wrong about Miami of Ohio basketball when you
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say we would finish last in the Big East. The
disrespect is awful. You should not be near a TV
studio covering this sport when you show your true colors
even slipped in a WII when talking about Auburn.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Nice work. So look look, I think we can agree.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Is there some bias on behalf of Bruce Pearl, I'm sure,
And I also think his perspective as one in which
you're starting to hear more and more.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
But this is a football argument. I mean, like, that's all.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
What he's trying to do now is he's trying to
reshape what the sixty eight teams that play in the
NCAA Tournament are because he's started to make the same
argument now that he's gotten in the TV that a
lot of people made what the twelve team playoff in
college football? And here's my issue with that is the
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best part of college basketball is March Madness. There is
no debate. There's no debate every other portion of your season.
For everyone else out there who follows March Madness, it's
an afterthought like people are trying to catch up half
the time in the filling out brackets and look at
what happened in the regular season or the conference tournament.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
No one cares, no one.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Besides the committee that's the tasked with putting together sixty
eight teams to playoff for a national championship, which, mind you,
we could call ridiculous as it is because it's the
worst format for actually determining your champion. But that's for
another and another debate. But this has never been about
the best the sixty eight best teams. It's never been that.
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And mind you, that's why it's been great. That's why
it's been amazing. That's why we've got Cinderella's stories and
so many incredible storylines of teams that, you know, David
versus Goliath, and we didn't think they could make it
there and all of a sudden in the sweets sixteen,
the Elite eight, the final four, like the George Masons
of the world, what was Goodzaga back at day, the
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Butler's back in the day that from their success and
the tournament have built themselves up coming from what some
believe to be weaker conferences, but now they end up
being powerhouses. So I hate hearing this narrative because I
think Bruce Pearls lost all sight of what this tournament
is and what really what drives college basketball. It's March madness, dude,
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It's the end. It's the story of Miami, Ohio this year,
like that, David versus goodlith Of I don't know how
they'd finished if they played in the seas. I have
no idea the Big Ten, the Big East, name your conference.
I know they're beating the doors off everyone in the MAC.
And yeah, the MAC may not be as tough in
basketball as some of the other conferences, but when it comes
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down to it, they deserve a shot. They they deserve
a shot to be a part of it. And it
shouldn't be that they have to win the MAC the
MAC Tournament, go completely undefeated in order to make it
in like, this is a compelling story, It's a compelling team.
This is what mates makes college basketball special.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Stop with the cop out.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Just trying to, like, you know, throw in these other
programs because they have more money or they spend more
money on better talent even though they haven't come together
as a team.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
If that's what this thing's still all.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
About, Kyler Perry would have a whole bunch of titles
if it was all about that exactly. So that doesn't
that doesn't you know, the whole idea of having the resources.
I mean, the national title winner this year and wasn't
the most money spent. I mean they very well supported,
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but not the most money spent. I think it still
comes down the quality and listen the whole conversation about
truth versus what you know opinions are. I think Bruce
is just giving his opinion and and he's basing his
opinion off of what he feels is relevant in terms
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of strength of schedule or who they're playing opponents and
conferences and a lot of people, a lot of purists
live within those parameters of the power conferences. And that's
where this whole you know, you know, I've experienced from
being like just in my travels, when you're around certain people,
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if you've gone to a certain school, even if they're
not good like they historically were, there's still arrogance about them.
There's still a level of well, this is who we are.
Whether I mean Michigan just one not too long ago,
but Michigan people have a certain air about them as
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it applies to what they do. If you're a duke,
if you've ever met a duke basketball player, like, they
have a certain air about them, you know. So some
people have like kind of like that blue blood mentality
and how they look at things and how they see things,
and it's very Notre Dame is one of them.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Schools.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Tell me about it, very very you know they have
they're you know, they're notre dame guys. There's there's a
certain way that there's a certain way that they are.
But but with that being said, can you separate the purest,
you know, the the blue blood is of how you
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feel and what you know and what you've experienced. Can
you separate that and and be critical and and and
be you know, fair and how you're you're viewing these
situations because to say deserving versus why you say deserving
versus the better teams and best versus best best versus deserving?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Again, how how do you how do you defy it?
Speaker 5 (11:12):
It's like the part because when when I saw the comments,
the first thing I thought of was, boy, that sounds familiar.
It sounds like the argument people were having about, you know,
the college football Playoff or you know, the BCA, like whatever.
You It's like, you mean to tell me that in
a sixty eight team field, you couldn't carve out a
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little niche for a team that's nineteenth and undefeated, like
you couldn't like they wouldn't be able to just squeeze
into the top sixty eight.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
So what you're saying is that the polls.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
That exist right now, don't mean anything, and winning your
games don't mean anything like that's that's what he's saying,
because at some point, and I get it, strength of schedule,
quad one wins, whatever elaborate terms they want to use
to try and spice up, you know, some resume for
a team here and there.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Dude, at some point, you got to win the games
that you're that you play like.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
You don't see NFL team saying, hey, like the Patriots, man,
their strength, the schedule was awful this this offseason, all right,
So what do you want gonna do? Opt out of
the Super Bowl and say, sorry, guys, we don't deserve it.
You know, our strength, the schedule and the teams we
beat were less than everybody else.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Dude, they're twenty.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Nine and oh it's not like this is either battling
it out and they've got four or five, six, seven losses.
So the idea that they wouldn't you wouldn't know the
Patriots are in the NFL, But the idea that you
wouldn't acknowledge that they've had a great year and that
they're deserving of making the top sixty eight when they're
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live team.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Right, you're saying that you're like, the difference between saying
the Patriots and saying Miami of Ohio is Bruce Pearl
does not see them as an NFL No, but my
point is you did, but you did what I'm saying, right,
I understand. I understand his assessment, and it's judgment thinking
that they are on that next till next level of
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a big ten or a SEC.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
And I get and I get what he's saying, and
I understand his approach. But if this was an argument
about hey man, there's only a select few. There's only
twelve of these that get the opportunity to play for
a title. Okay, I would hold some water, dude, Come on,
there's sixty eight that get in, Like, you need to
tell me the nineteenth ranked team of the country who's undefeated,
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isn't one of the sixty eight best or sixty eight
deserving to get I think that's that's the part where
it kind of loses me. I just it doesn't make
any sense to me. The math doesn't add up, and
there is nepotism.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Come on, like, can you can you actually get out
of the way of saying like, wasn't his son on
his coaching staff?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Okay, that doesn't that put to bid that that conversation.
You can't possibly say he earned it. Man, he probably did.
Oh you honest, he's being sarcastic and that's fine. But
but the point is is that you were on your
dad's coaching staff and you took over as they head coach.
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Please don't say there's no nepotism involved. Please please don't
do that that. I mean, like we're you don't want it,
Like Bruce is a good dude. I've I've done interviews
with him done and that's what I don't want.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
I don't want people to think I'm coming down to
Bruce Pearl. Like I love Bruce Pearl. I just think
this is an instance where he's lost sight of what
makes college basketball to me special, because that's the one
thing you got right now. I mean, don't act like
anyone knows any players anymore. They all move around too
much with a.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Transfer portal, will want to done the whole thing. It's
just it's too much.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
But the worst thing you could do is start losing
that that mystique in that that that power to lose.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
It's the spirit of it, like the spirit of March
madness is the little guy has a chance, and everyone knows.
Because it's basketball and it's a one and done scenario.
You can catch a team on a hot shooting night,
and that team can beat even the most talented, asked
John Caliper. You mentioned him earlier in All Seriously, the
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team tournament, his run at Kentucky when he had at
number one or number two class year in and year out,
guys who'd gone on to the end NBA would become
NBA Hall of Famers, Perennial All Stars.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
He got one titleez.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
One title in that entire span he was there, all
the money, all the resources, everything he had, it still
only sped out one title. That would never happen, never
happen in college football because the truth of the matter is,
if you had that much talent every single year, his
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ass would have been fired for not being able to
win it in the four team playoffs, and maybe you'd
even say even in the twelve team even though there's
there's a lot more games to get through. It's one
of the reasons why I feel like March Madison general
is a terrible way of trying to determine your ultimate
national champion. And so since it's not really about that,
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because it's not the best format for it. It is
about the spirit of competition, the little guy versus the
big guy. It is about some of those incredible stories
we talked about Sister Jean and how that all you know,
came to be part of it.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Even though Jonas has a beef with her. I'm not
really sure why. Oh no, she got beef. She passed
away recently, didn't she. I don't have a beef with her.
What I with her back? You were like, all right,
I'm over this. It's too much.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Oh yeah, I mean they were pushing it down our
throat way too much. Like enough's enough. Yeah, that's enough.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Remember golf, you know he got that one exemption in Ivery,
was like, oh, it's the Black Party.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Like his time came and went. It's like, all right,
let's let's move off.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yes, twenty four the Oakland Golden Grizzlies, Yeah, fourteenth, that's right,
made a run. Knocked off your boy Cali Perry. Yeah
early early.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
By the way, At some point, when are you Kentucky
fans gonna show some appreciation for John Calipari and stop
attacking that man. He's moved on, all right, He's.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
And you got chicken money. Now we got we had
our own things to worry about this year. I mean,
I feel like we've got enough quad one wins. I
mean we've five, depending on how you look at maybe eight.
But Kentucky can play with anyone. Unfortunately, they just it's
hit or miss. Sometimes I'll leave it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I don't I want to.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I don't get distracted on Kentucky and my basketball fandom
for UK, which has been questioned and challenged by some
out there, but again, grew up a Kentucky basketball fan,
had uncle that played there. Everyone seems to say that,
like you know, I'm not a die. I'm on I'm
on multiple group chats, okay, and it is distract and
I don't want to be on them, But because of
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my fandom for the Kentucky Wildcats, I will stay on
those group chats and endure some of the overly emotional.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Idiots.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Sometimes they're on this scrip shot. By the way, you
know Tega is a Dafe's brother. Y'all aware of that
or take away? You know the defense from from the
NFL from from Penn State. Yea, his brother is the
I mean, what would we say the star player on
the team this year.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Yeah, it's one of them, but yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
By the way, camera Boozer can play man, yes he can.
And he looks like his dad. And you know they
banged his arm up. Did you see his arm? It
looks like you got abuse.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
There's gotta be saying.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
I know, in boxing they make you like you can
have a guy cut his beard if you don't like
his beard, like you can like there's an m M
A that make you cut your nails like it's some
like in basketball you look at these guys like Joki
has got claw marks all over his arms from from
guys not cutting their nails.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
It's kind of disgusting. Interesting who's not cutting their nails?
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Cameron Boozer looked like, yeah, it looks like a cash
like a lion that got attacked.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Who's not cutting their nails? Somebody? And uh, you know
in that game, let's look for for de Paul. Yeah,
what's that supposed to be? Johnas.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I'm just saying, like the guy's trying to grab a rebound.
Next thing you know, he comes away and you got
Freddy Krueger. It's just ridiculous, said, certain people don't cut
their nails. Yeah, that's where That's where he's going with.
That is what he's saying. Listen, I'm not that you
people just need to cut your nails. I don't understand
what the problem is. Anybody can get it, by the.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Way, get my the highway, Okay, we all want to see.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
By the way, not only are they going to get it,
they're probably gonna be like a six seed by the
way talking about it.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Just take me home to wherever the afterlife is. If
I'm ever in a a hot air balloon in the
hot just just take me home.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, those ht I'm not going to live.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
My dog almost died yesterday from like being anxiety, like
his anxiety. Everybody's running up on all bro He like
had like he was like passing out because too many
people was running up on him. He like fell out,
like is are you okay? Like what is the problem
he sees up like yeah, it was like close. Like
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if I if I've ever that, if I'm ever that hot,
I'm going to seize your to death.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Just so you guys.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Yeah, these yeah, these rocket scientists who decided to get
into hot air balloon and go God, I can't believe
we got caught up in a wire again in Texas?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
What do you think is gonna happen? Dummies?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Hey, man, if I go up in a picnic basket, yes,
and I'm using hot air to fill up a parachute.
My parachute is supposed to get you to the ground, right,
not take you up. If I ever get into a
picnic basket, like you know, yeah, imagine putting a show
My family is okay because I was trying to get
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up out of here.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Imagine putting a fire pit in a bounce house, floating
it in the air, and then saying, I can't imagine
what what if?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Why does go wrong? What went wrong?
Speaker 5 (21:15):
I can't imagine? What a great idea? Whoever thought of
hot air balloons? You're an a hole?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
All right? Why live?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
I actually just do you want to hear? Who invented
Levitius knocks? Might be related to no?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah? Really, no, dummy? That is funny though, like that,
yeah sick.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That was good because it wouldn't have surprised me, Like
I mean, I'd go for them every time.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I would really invented something that sounds like something we
would do. Some big boys name Aloe and.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
What's the other one?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
And what's on.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Mondevu Mondevu dang a man named his kids after lions.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
What's the Jamie Fox comedy speci When he's like, hey.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Did you guys see the clip too?
Speaker 6 (22:19):
On the guy explaining what there's the lion the way
there's a lion.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh my god, Yeah, there's a lion.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Oh my god, there's a lion. Oh all right, there's
a lion. Oh my god. That's that's what he said.
They're saying though.
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You can listen to it anywhere y'all. Probably up in
the hot air balloon. Them people was crashing, all right.
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As pointed out by Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk,
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Was the move that was made in New York when
the Giants decided to get a long term deal done
with Daniel Jones and then give the franchise tag to
Saquon Barkley. And we kind of know how that all
played out and whatnot. But the plan is they want
to keep Daniel Jones in Indianapolis. They're trying to work
out a deal if he does get franchise tagged, he's
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going to make a little over forty three million dollars.
There's a transition tag which is a little over thirty
seven million dollars to go along with it. So they're
trying to hammer out something that's going to make more
sense for them financially. And I just got to ask
the question, is he going to be available to go
when the season? Did he tares Achilles, Yeah, in December?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Man. So it gets less than three like it's three
months ago, and they're trying to figure out they want
to keep in their long term. And I know when
Kirk Cousins came back, you know, it was a little
while before he you know, felt like he was himself
again or at least close to himself. And Daniel Jones
is a much more mobile guy than Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I just.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
It feels like if they're going to go, first of all,
if he can get forty three million dollars out of
franchise tag coming off that injury, god bless yeah him.
But I just don't know what he's what it's going
to look like start off the year.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
And he's been through this before, right, Yeah, I mean,
and he was able to get a longer term deal done.
You know, I guess the question for you guys is
did he play well enough last year? Granted wasn't even
the entire season, but did he play well enough to
change your perception of what he can be as a franchise.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Quarter back in the league? And then the follow up
to that is, do you think he's changed the perception
for the Colts or they want to buy into this
in a big way more than just a one year
franchise tag.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
I kind of struggle with it just because the first
half of the second half were different and it was
almost like, well, he's becoming Daniel Jones again. But he
played so well at times that I just still think
it's the same questions with him that were in New
York to where like, he's got the ability to play
really well and then he'll just have awful games. And
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I think you saw that displayed last year. I just
think for the Colts it was the best production they've
had at quarterback since what probably Andrew Luck. So for
the Colts they look at it and go, well, why
would we want to move away from that? If we
can get him healthy and get that productivity again, I
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go that direction.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I just I don't know. I just don't know if
he's going to be healthy.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I feel like it's too small of a sample size
to want to make that type of commitment.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I really do.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And listen, you would like to believe that it's pretty
cut and dry, like, okay, this this young man has
proven that he can can get it done under those circumstances,
which he has. But then the injury takes place, and
it's unfortunate because and and and pro sports like injuries
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are not rewarded. You could sit there and be like, wait,
hold on, like I shouldn't be getting judged by that.
I mean I got injured, right, Well, you're judged by that,
and and there will be a very critical look at
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what you're going to do with that player. But because
you are now you're you're already considered a depreciating asset,
like the moment you take the car off the lot,
but now you're even more of a depreciating asset. And
if you're not aware that, then you had better learn
that very quickly. If you're if you're playing the game,
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and that is not just at the pro level, that's
every level.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Do you know where he's at, where he's at the
Sam Darnold cycle, where he's coming from the ground of
the injury makes things a little different. But he's coming
from that like gray year in Minnesota where but yeah,
but didn't play great there down the stretch. And with him,
it's kind of like, yeah, he played great, but we
didn't get to see him down the stretch and he's
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got an injury. It's almost like it's gonna take one
of those four years him getting into the playoffs playing
well to prove otherwise, at least in my mind, because
I still think there's that doubt in the back of
everyone's mind like could he be a guy plays well
for stretch of time, Sure, but can he do it
for the entire of the season when it matters most
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heading into the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Still don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
So with with those questions, are you willing to pay
him a one year, fully guaranteed deal for forty three million?
And if you're not, I mean, he's kind of got
them in a tough spot, right, Like we know they're
already letting Anthony Richardson move on. You know, maybe you'd say, Okay,
we saw something Riley Lennard the end of the season,
we'd go with that, but I feel like this organization
feels too close to being able to compete and make
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it into the playoffs, so I don't I don't know
that they want to start over. I think they're going
to try to, you know, push and push and get
Daniel Jones back there as soon as possible, but his
offseason at a minimum, is going to be greatly impacted
as far as his ability to prepare him for the
team to prepare around him.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
So it's it's a great thing for Riley Leonard.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
He's gonna get more reps or any other quarterback they've
got on the roster, But I don't know that that's
going to bode well for them when the season comes
around if Daniel j can't, you know, get healthy and
get back sooner until basically training camp, which is probably.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
The timeline is on. You called a game last year
in Indy, right, I did that based on the circumstances.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yes, Okay, Well, I don't mean to bring that up,
and I don't need to bring that, but I meant
that you talk to people there and they were pretty
ecstatic about what Daniel Jones had done up to that point.
I mean, it felt like they were heading in the
right direction and then all this happened. That's why I
just they're in a table that felt.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Like a really good fit between Shane Stikeen and what
he's looking for from a quarterback and then Daniel Jones's
skill set. Meaning there's a lot of coaches who want
you to be an extension of them out there in
the field, and when you can be that and you
can do it successfully, it's a match made in heaven
because they feel like they can entrust things on you
and they don't have to be perfect with every play call,
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and you can put the team in a good play call.
I mean they're one in which when he walks through
the line of scrimmers, they've got a play call, but
they've they can go to two or three different things.
And when you have a quarterback who can execut that,
it makes life easier on everyone involved. And it also
allows you to utilize talent where guys can can play
the role. You know, Alec Pears and Josh Downs and
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the young man of the e Pittman out on the outside.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Like each one of those guys.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Was able to kind of evolve to as a player
a bit because you didn't have to worry about you know,
how the offense was being executed. You knew that Daniel
Johns is gonna execute it the way Shane Steakins all fits.
So that to me is the biggest thing that kind
of stands out. But that and the fact that when
you're coming off in Achilles injury, I think you know
this better than anyone.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
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Speaker 5 (33:07):
By the way, can I get a Prisco prediction from
Brady Quinn who's known that savage for a long time now?
When the subject of Daniel Jones has brought up, What
is Prisco going to say about Daniel Jones as a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
What would you.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I think he'll acknowledge his improvement. He'll also acknowledge the injury.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
And yeah, what y'all you know?
Speaker 6 (33:29):
But but how good really is he? We didn't see
him in the crunch time. You know, he'll bring up
all these things. I think he'll eventually say that. They'll
tag him as like a one year prove a deal.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
But man, that's a lot of money, you know, he'll
make something like that. Does kids? No, Yeah, he's saying
was he an holy child?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
No, he's got he's at least one older. I think
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
He might.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Muggsy Calhoun he got like that, Like you remember, remember
the baby they used to put in the carriage and
Looney Tunes And he had tattoo and he smoked his cigar,
but he had a baby.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
You think that's Frisco. You know.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Brady mentioned this last week and I didn't realize it
at the time because I hadn't watched the interview yet.
But you know, Prisco's got this thing about, you know,
not kicking field goals, and he's like, and I look,
I kind of tend to lean and agree with him,
but I guess Ben Johnson sat down for an interview
with them, and Ben Johnson sat down with an interview
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with Florio afterwards and was like, yeah, just talking to
Pete down.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
There, he was getting on me about not kicking a
field goal.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Like Pete couldn't help himself the first thing He'll sit
to anybody.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
That's what I've always said about p that I love
about him, and I think for a lot of other
people getting growing in the business. You know, He's always said,
you got to like go out there and talk to people.
You can't just hide behind a camera or your phone
and put up these reports and say it be a
tough critic, but then can't do it to someone's face.
He said, if you're gonna be a tough critic, you
better be able to stay to their face too. And
(35:19):
that's one of the things I respectful truth. Yeah, I
respect that he doesn't pull punch. You'll say what he
thinks and lils and I that'll call you out on it.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
That's so funny. Couldn't help himself. It is two pros
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Speaker 3 (36:05):
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Speaker 5 (36:06):
Coming off top of next hour, we are going to
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on this show. He will be yours here on FSR
to make sure you stick around for that or join
us back here. Ten minutes from now tis the season
in the NFL. Players are getting released. We've got cap
casualties around the league, some notable names. A couple from yesterday.
(36:29):
Marshaw Lattimore gone tang from the Washington Commandos. It's going
to save them over eighteen million dollars in cap space.
He's twenty nine and coming off of torn acl So
this time, jeez, So this this does feel like he's
probably gonna have to wait a little while if he's
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going to get a look from a team this upcoming season.
Based on the injury in the age for Marshawn Lattimore,
Jwan Taylor as well too. The off side's King of
the NFL released by the Chiefs. It's going to save
them about twenty million dollars against the cap. Fun fact
about Juwan Taylor. In forty five games with the Chiefs,
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he committed forty nine penalties forty one that were accepted,
so that by far and away leads the league Juwan Taylor.
So there's a couple of cap casualties in the NFL.
And is this just sort of you just kind of
know when you sign the deal a you get as
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much guaranteed money as you can and eventually this is
the way this league operates.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Yeah, that's why every single time we talk about deals,
especially as the new league year approaches us, you're gonna
hear these huge numbers and none of the matter because
the back end of the contract, especially if they're backloaded,
if there's no guarantees at that point, it's all the fluff.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
It's it's just what's on paper. There's no onus to
the ownership.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
So you look at the amount of year, the amount
of money that's guaranteed, and the duration of the contract,
and usually there's someone to retreat a one two if you're.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
A quarterback, maybe three years of guarantees.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
It's very seldom for any position outside of quarterback to
get more than two years of guarantees in their contract.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
That's just how.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Business has been done that you could say, well, what
about the first round picks or rookies. Yeah, true, you
know those deals are fully guaranteed. But we're talking about
the second contract that you know, free agent contract, you're
signing that that next big contract. It's really hard to
get owners to commit to a huge number that's got
more than two years of guarantees in it.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
They just they won't do it.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
But in regards to the Chiefs though, with Taylor moving
off from him LaVar you said it last year, I
mean you feel like this is this is it.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Chiefs are done.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
No way they can rebuild, retool to get back.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
In the mix again. It's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I don't I think it's gonna be tough for them
to revisit being an elite team. I stand on that.
I still feel that that way about it. Yeah, I'm
I'm I'm pretty firm on that their run could be over.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yes, ten toes down. Yes, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
I don't even feel any trepidation about it either, Like
I feel like they've had an improbable run, a grow
to prominence that that has led to a reverence for
coach Andy Reid, who was not able to fully achieve
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that when he was in Philadelphia. I mean there's a lot.
There's a lot to that, but I mean I give
him a lot of credit for what he was able
to accomplish. And and if this is it, I mean, okay,
but I'm not why you asked that though? Why do
you ask that?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Was that like a setup question? No, it's setting up,
just answer. You talked about it a lot last year. Yeah,
the run was I think the run is over. The tackles, Yeah,
I think the run is over.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Man, I do I just wonder because I think it
does illustrate how incredible the Patriots run was because they
had that initial like the Chiefs are having, and then
they had another one. You know, it was ten years
between Super Bowl wins for New England and where Kansas
City's at I mean, Andy Reid's not going to be
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here for another ten years. He's not doing it for
ten years.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Who knows.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Patrick Mahomes already coming off an injury, and who knows
what's going to happen there. It just I would tend
to agree with LeVar. I think that's probably the end.
But I'm curious to see, you know what this next
version of Kansas City looks like they try to entertaining
or transition into a new era. It's gonna look a
lot like what it has looked like. It's gonna be
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a whole lot of whole lot of defense. Maybe even
the defense takes a step back. I don't know, Chris
Jones is it was one of the most
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I thought it was funny. Yeah, I could just picture
him saying it.
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Speaker 6 (01:58):
Yeah, in a little place called Oxford, Ohio. Undefeated, one
of the best teams in college basketball to some to
others not so much.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
This conversing, by the way, two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, and this conversation
heat it up a little bit because Bruce Pearl was
on TNT, former Auburn coach, and he had this to
say last week about Miami of Ohio and the prospects
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of them getting into the tournament. A team that's undefeated,
a team that's in the top twenty five. This from
Bruce Pearl last week.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Miami, Howe, here's the deal.
Speaker 7 (02:38):
Are we gonna select the sixty eight most deserving teams
or were going to select the sixty eight best teams.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
If selecting the sixty eight best teams.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Then Mia mohow is gonna have to win their tournament
to qualify.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
As a champion because as in at.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
Large, they are not one of the best teams in
the country, and that's going to be a difficult choice
for the committee to make.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Now, Bruce Pearl's son is currently the head coach at Auburn.
He took over for his dad, who decided to walk
away this offseason, and so Auburn struggled a little bit.
They're one of these teams that are going to need
to do some things to try and get into the tournament.
And so in discussing this on Wake Up Barstool on
FS one yesterday, Bruce Pearl was explaining sort of what
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Auburn needed to do and what his son needed to
do to get that team into the tournament, and Dave
Portnoy made sure to point out that, you know, maybe
there was a little bit of a conflict of interest
potentially between Miami of Ohio and Auburn based on the
Pearl relationship.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Let's sick a listen, you.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
Know it's a They are a last four in and
you never want to be the last four in because
any upset in the tournament and you're the first four out.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
So they got LSU tomorrow. They've got to be LSU.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
The last REGL season game is at Alabama, and that's
gonna be that's gonna be hard. Now we did win
there last year, but Alabama's playing really well. They're a
team right now that as you're looking for, who might
be a Sweet sixteen team that could slip into the
Elite eight the way Alabama's playing, and so I don't
know that they get that one.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Here's what Auburn's gonna do.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
They're gonna be there to shoot home and they probably
need to win their first round in the SEC tournament.
They've got five quad one wins, they've got the best
winning college basketball on the road at Florida. As far
as that margin, it's either the best or one of
the best. So they got a little bit more work
to do.
Speaker 8 (04:25):
And then you got to foot them on your Ohio
shirt and you're gonna be rooting for them in the tournament.
And I'd love to be behind closed doors if you
have to cast a vote and it's Auburn or a
one loss Ohio team from the tournament and see which
way this vote goes, because I got a feeling I
know which.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Way is going.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
There's no love of my son, I mean, I mean,
you know there's no nepotism.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Involved here now.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Bruce Pearl also made a point to say the following
when it came to Miami of Ohio, who, by the way,
keep in mind undefeated, right, They are an undefeated team.
They are in the top twenty five current at nineteen
at twenty nine to zero. Bruce Pearl said the following quote,
They're not built for the grind of the Big Ten
or even the Big East. In the Big East Conference
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this year, they'd finish in the lower half. They may
not finish last. But I tell you what, I'm not
so sure. I'm not so sure who is the last
place team. It would be to Paul, it would be Marquette.
I don't know so now. David Saylor, who's the athletic
director at Miami o Ohio, he went on social media
and said the following to Bruce Pearl quote, you are
flat out wrong about Miami of Ohio basketball when you
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say we would finish last in the Big East. The
disrespect is awful. You should not be near a TV
studio covering this sport when you show your true colors
even slipped in a WII when talking about Auburn.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Nice work. So look look, I think we can agree.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Is there some bias on behalf of Bruce Pearl, I'm sure,
And I also think his perspective as one in which
you're starting to hear more and more.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
But this is a football argument. I mean, like, that's all.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
What he's trying to do now is he's trying to
reshape what the sixty eight teams that play in the
NCAA Tournament are because he's started to make the same
argument now that he's gotten in the TV that a
lot of people made what the twelve team playoff in
college football? And here's my issue with that is the
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best part of college basketball is March Madness. There is
no debate. There's no debate every other portion of your season.
For everyone else out there who follows March Madness, it's
an afterthought like people are trying to catch up half
the time in the filling out brackets and look at
what happened in the regular season or the conference tournament.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
No one cares, no one.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Besides the committee that's the tasked with putting together sixty
eight teams to playoff for a national championship, which, mind you,
we could call ridiculous as it is because it's the
worst format for actually determining your champion. But that's for
another and another debate. But this has never been about
the best the sixty eight best teams. It's never been that.
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And mind you, that's why it's been great. That's why
it's been amazing. That's why we've got Cinderella's stories and
so many incredible storylines of teams that, you know, David
versus Goliath, and we didn't think they could make it
there and all of a sudden in the sweets sixteen,
the Elite eight, the final four, like the George Masons
of the world, what was Goodzaga back at day, the
(07:28):
Butler's back in the day that from their success and
the tournament have built themselves up coming from what some
believe to be weaker conferences, but now they end up
being powerhouses. So I hate hearing this narrative because I
think Bruce Pearls lost all sight of what this tournament
is and what really what drives college basketball. It's March madness, dude,
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It's the end. It's the story of Miami, Ohio this year,
like that, David versus goodlith Of I don't know how
they'd finished if they played in the seas. I have
no idea the Big Ten, the Big East, name your conference.
I know they're beating the doors off everyone in the MAC.
And yeah, the MAC may not be as tough in
basketball as some of the other conferences, but when it comes
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down to it, they deserve a shot. They they deserve
a shot to be a part of it. And it
shouldn't be that they have to win the MAC the
MAC Tournament, go completely undefeated in order to make it
in like, this is a compelling story, It's a compelling team.
This is what mates makes college basketball special.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Stop with the cop out.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Just trying to, like, you know, throw in these other
programs because they have more money or they spend more
money on better talent even though they haven't come together
as a team.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
If that's what this thing's still all.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
About, Kyler Perry would have a whole bunch of titles
if it was all about that exactly. So that doesn't
that doesn't you know, the whole idea of having the resources.
I mean, the national title winner this year and wasn't
the most money spent. I mean they very well supported,
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but not the most money spent. I think it still
comes down the quality and listen the whole conversation about
truth versus what you know opinions are. I think Bruce
is just giving his opinion and and he's basing his
opinion off of what he feels is relevant in terms
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of strength of schedule or who they're playing opponents and
conferences and a lot of people, a lot of purists
live within those parameters of the power conferences. And that's
where this whole you know, you know, I've experienced from
being like just in my travels, when you're around certain people,
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if you've gone to a certain school, even if they're
not good like they historically were, there's still arrogance about them.
There's still a level of well, this is who we are.
Whether I mean Michigan just one not too long ago,
but Michigan people have a certain air about them as
(10:08):
it applies to what they do. If you're a duke,
if you've ever met a duke basketball player, like, they
have a certain air about them, you know. So some
people have like kind of like that blue blood mentality
and how they look at things and how they see things,
and it's very Notre Dame is one of them.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Schools.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Tell me about it, very very you know they have
they're you know, they're notre dame guys. There's there's a
certain way that there's a certain way that they are.
But but with that being said, can you separate the purest,
you know, the the blue blood is of how you
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feel and what you know and what you've experienced. Can
you separate that and and be critical and and and
be you know, fair and how you're you're viewing these
situations because to say deserving versus why you say deserving
versus the better teams and best versus best best versus deserving?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Again, how how do you how do you defy it?
Speaker 5 (11:12):
It's like the part because when when I saw the comments,
the first thing I thought of was, boy, that sounds familiar.
It sounds like the argument people were having about, you know,
the college football Playoff or you know, the BCA, like whatever.
You It's like, you mean to tell me that in
a sixty eight team field, you couldn't carve out a
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little niche for a team that's nineteenth and undefeated, like
you couldn't like they wouldn't be able to just squeeze
into the top sixty eight.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
So what you're saying is that the polls.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
That exist right now, don't mean anything, and winning your
games don't mean anything like that's that's what he's saying,
because at some point, and I get it, strength of schedule,
quad one wins, whatever elaborate terms they want to use
to try and spice up, you know, some resume for
a team here and there.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Dude, at some point, you got to win the games
that you're that you play like.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
You don't see NFL team saying, hey, like the Patriots, man,
their strength, the schedule was awful this this offseason, all right,
So what do you want gonna do? Opt out of
the Super Bowl and say, sorry, guys, we don't deserve it.
You know, our strength, the schedule and the teams we
beat were less than everybody else.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Dude, they're twenty.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Nine and oh it's not like this is either battling
it out and they've got four or five, six, seven losses.
So the idea that they wouldn't you wouldn't know the
Patriots are in the NFL, But the idea that you
wouldn't acknowledge that they've had a great year and that
they're deserving of making the top sixty eight when they're
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live team.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Right, you're saying that you're like, the difference between saying
the Patriots and saying Miami of Ohio is Bruce Pearl
does not see them as an NFL No, but my
point is you did, but you did what I'm saying, right,
I understand. I understand his assessment, and it's judgment thinking
that they are on that next till next level of
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a big ten or a SEC.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
And I get and I get what he's saying, and
I understand his approach. But if this was an argument
about hey man, there's only a select few. There's only
twelve of these that get the opportunity to play for
a title. Okay, I would hold some water, dude, Come on,
there's sixty eight that get in, Like, you need to
tell me the nineteenth ranked team of the country who's undefeated,
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isn't one of the sixty eight best or sixty eight
deserving to get I think that's that's the part where
it kind of loses me. I just it doesn't make
any sense to me. The math doesn't add up, and
there is nepotism.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Come on, like, can you can you actually get out
of the way of saying like, wasn't his son on
his coaching staff?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Okay, that doesn't that put to bid that that conversation.
You can't possibly say he earned it. Man, he probably did.
Oh you honest, he's being sarcastic and that's fine. But
but the point is is that you were on your
dad's coaching staff and you took over as they head coach.
(14:07):
Please don't say there's no nepotism involved. Please please don't
do that that. I mean, like we're you don't want it,
Like Bruce is a good dude. I've I've done interviews
with him done and that's what I don't want.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
I don't want people to think I'm coming down to
Bruce Pearl. Like I love Bruce Pearl. I just think
this is an instance where he's lost sight of what
makes college basketball to me special, because that's the one
thing you got right now. I mean, don't act like
anyone knows any players anymore. They all move around too
much with a.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Transfer portal, will want to done the whole thing. It's
just it's too much.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
But the worst thing you could do is start losing
that that mystique in that that that power to lose.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
It's the spirit of it, like the spirit of March
madness is the little guy has a chance, and everyone knows.
Because it's basketball and it's a one and done scenario.
You can catch a team on a hot shooting night,
and that team can beat even the most talented, asked
John Caliper. You mentioned him earlier in All Seriously, the
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team tournament, his run at Kentucky when he had at
number one or number two class year in and year out,
guys who'd gone on to the end NBA would become
NBA Hall of Famers, Perennial All Stars.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
He got one titleez.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
One title in that entire span he was there, all
the money, all the resources, everything he had, it still
only sped out one title. That would never happen, never
happen in college football because the truth of the matter is,
if you had that much talent every single year, his
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ass would have been fired for not being able to
win it in the four team playoffs, and maybe you'd
even say even in the twelve team even though there's
there's a lot more games to get through. It's one
of the reasons why I feel like March Madison general
is a terrible way of trying to determine your ultimate
national champion. And so since it's not really about that,
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because it's not the best format for it. It is
about the spirit of competition, the little guy versus the
big guy. It is about some of those incredible stories
we talked about Sister Jean and how that all you know,
came to be part of it.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Even though Jonas has a beef with her. I'm not
really sure why. Oh no, she got beef. She passed
away recently, didn't she. I don't have a beef with her.
What I with her back? You were like, all right,
I'm over this. It's too much.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Oh yeah, I mean they were pushing it down our
throat way too much. Like enough's enough. Yeah, that's enough.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Remember golf, you know he got that one exemption in Ivery,
was like, oh, it's the Black Party.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Like his time came and went. It's like, all right,
let's let's move off.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yes, twenty four the Oakland Golden Grizzlies, Yeah, fourteenth, that's right,
made a run. Knocked off your boy Cali Perry. Yeah
early early.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
By the way, At some point, when are you Kentucky
fans gonna show some appreciation for John Calipari and stop
attacking that man. He's moved on, all right, He's.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
And you got chicken money. Now we got we had
our own things to worry about this year. I mean,
I feel like we've got enough quad one wins. I
mean we've five, depending on how you look at maybe eight.
But Kentucky can play with anyone. Unfortunately, they just it's
hit or miss. Sometimes I'll leave it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I don't I want to.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I don't get distracted on Kentucky and my basketball fandom
for UK, which has been questioned and challenged by some
out there, but again, grew up a Kentucky basketball fan,
had uncle that played there. Everyone seems to say that,
like you know, I'm not a die. I'm on I'm
on multiple group chats, okay, and it is distract and
I don't want to be on them, But because of
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my fandom for the Kentucky Wildcats, I will stay on
those group chats and endure some of the overly emotional.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Idiots.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Sometimes they're on this scrip shot. By the way, you
know Tega is a Dafe's brother. Y'all aware of that
or take away? You know the defense from from the
NFL from from Penn State. Yea, his brother is the
I mean, what would we say the star player on
the team this year.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Yeah, it's one of them, but yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
By the way, camera Boozer can play man, yes he can.
And he looks like his dad. And you know they
banged his arm up. Did you see his arm? It
looks like you got abuse.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
There's gotta be saying.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
I know, in boxing they make you like you can
have a guy cut his beard if you don't like
his beard, like you can like there's an m M
A that make you cut your nails like it's some
like in basketball you look at these guys like Joki
has got claw marks all over his arms from from
guys not cutting their nails.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
It's kind of disgusting. Interesting who's not cutting their nails?
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Cameron Boozer looked like, yeah, it looks like a cash
like a lion that got attacked.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Who's not cutting their nails? Somebody? And uh, you know
in that game, let's look for for de Paul. Yeah,
what's that supposed to be? Johnas.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I'm just saying, like the guy's trying to grab a rebound.
Next thing you know, he comes away and you got
Freddy Krueger. It's just ridiculous, said, certain people don't cut
their nails. Yeah, that's where That's where he's going with.
That is what he's saying. Listen, I'm not that you
people just need to cut your nails. I don't understand
what the problem is. Anybody can get it, by the.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Way, get my the highway, Okay, we all want to see.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
By the way, not only are they going to get it,
they're probably gonna be like a six seed by the
way talking about it.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Just take me home to wherever the afterlife is. If
I'm ever in a a hot air balloon in the
hot just just take me home.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, those ht I'm not going to live.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
My dog almost died yesterday from like being anxiety, like
his anxiety. Everybody's running up on all bro He like
had like he was like passing out because too many
people was running up on him. He like fell out,
like is are you okay? Like what is the problem
he sees up like yeah, it was like close. Like
(20:26):
if I if I've ever that, if I'm ever that hot,
I'm going to seize your to death.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Just so you guys.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Yeah, these yeah, these rocket scientists who decided to get
into hot air balloon and go God, I can't believe
we got caught up in a wire again in Texas?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
What do you think is gonna happen? Dummies?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Hey, man, if I go up in a picnic basket, yes,
and I'm using hot air to fill up a parachute.
My parachute is supposed to get you to the ground, right,
not take you up. If I ever get into a
picnic basket, like you know, yeah, imagine putting a show
My family is okay because I was trying to get
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up out of here.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Imagine putting a fire pit in a bounce house, floating
it in the air, and then saying, I can't imagine
what what if?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Why does go wrong? What went wrong?
Speaker 5 (21:15):
I can't imagine? What a great idea? Whoever thought of
hot air balloons? You're an a hole?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
All right? Why live?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
I actually just do you want to hear? Who invented
Levitius knocks? Might be related to no?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah? Really, no, dummy? That is funny though, like that,
yeah sick.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That was good because it wouldn't have surprised me, Like
I mean, I'd go for them every time.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I would really invented something that sounds like something we
would do. Some big boys name Aloe and.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
What's the other one?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
And what's on.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Mondevu Mondevu dang a man named his kids after lions.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
What's the Jamie Fox comedy speci When he's like, hey.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Did you guys see the clip too?
Speaker 6 (22:19):
On the guy explaining what there's the lion the way
there's a lion.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh my god, Yeah, there's a lion.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Oh my god, there's a lion. Oh all right, there's
a lion. Oh my god. That's that's what he said.
They're saying though.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
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Speaker 3 (23:08):
You can listen to it anywhere y'all. Probably up in
the hot air balloon. Them people was crashing, all right.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
So coming up next here, we're gonna tell you about
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Speaker 1 (24:12):
You're saying, that's Loraina's hit right now, that's her, that's
what's going on in her head.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
They got that blood moon flu.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, that's why you put it on, Loraino. That's how
you're like, that's what's playing in your head right now?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Must be okay so you can get a clear view
of it. Huh oh yeah, right outside right, I'll go
next break, I want to check it out.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here
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come on, Blood, let's go look at the moon.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Blood. You guys could walk together. That's a good idea.
Have a whole moment, all right, So we'll call it
a little over.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Fifteen minutes from now, we are going to tell you
about that time of year in the National footb It
is that time of season. We'll get into that for
you right here on FSR. Daniel Jones. The Indianapolis Colts
are working to sign him before the Tuesday tag deadline.
(25:16):
As pointed out by Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk,
Daniel Jones has been here before.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
If you remember, this.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Was the move that was made in New York when
the Giants decided to get a long term deal done
with Daniel Jones and then give the franchise tag to
Saquon Barkley. And we kind of know how that all
played out and whatnot. But the plan is they want
to keep Daniel Jones in Indianapolis. They're trying to work
out a deal if he does get franchise tagged, he's
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going to make a little over forty three million dollars.
There's a transition tag which is a little over thirty
seven million dollars to go along with it. So they're
trying to hammer out something that's going to make more
sense for them financially. And I just got to ask
the question, is he going to be available to go
when the season? Did he tares Achilles, Yeah, in December?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Man. So it gets less than three like it's three
months ago, and they're trying to figure out they want
to keep in their long term. And I know when
Kirk Cousins came back, you know, it was a little
while before he you know, felt like he was himself
again or at least close to himself. And Daniel Jones
is a much more mobile guy than Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I just.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
It feels like if they're going to go, first of all,
if he can get forty three million dollars out of
franchise tag coming off that injury, god bless yeah him.
But I just don't know what he's what it's going
to look like start off the year.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
And he's been through this before, right, Yeah, I mean,
and he was able to get a longer term deal done.
You know, I guess the question for you guys is
did he play well enough last year? Granted wasn't even
the entire season, but did he play well enough to
change your perception of what he can be as a franchise.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Quarter back in the league? And then the follow up
to that is, do you think he's changed the perception
for the Colts or they want to buy into this
in a big way more than just a one year
franchise tag.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
I kind of struggle with it just because the first
half of the second half were different and it was
almost like, well, he's becoming Daniel Jones again. But he
played so well at times that I just still think
it's the same questions with him that were in New
York to where like, he's got the ability to play
really well and then he'll just have awful games. And
(27:36):
I think you saw that displayed last year. I just
think for the Colts it was the best production they've
had at quarterback since what probably Andrew Luck. So for
the Colts they look at it and go, well, why
would we want to move away from that? If we
can get him healthy and get that productivity again, I
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go that direction.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I just I don't know. I just don't know if
he's going to be healthy.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I feel like it's too small of a sample size
to want to make that type of commitment.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I really do.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And listen, you would like to believe that it's pretty
cut and dry, like, okay, this this young man has
proven that he can can get it done under those circumstances,
which he has. But then the injury takes place, and
it's unfortunate because and and and pro sports like injuries
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are not rewarded. You could sit there and be like, wait,
hold on, like I shouldn't be getting judged by that.
I mean I got injured, right, Well, you're judged by that,
and and there will be a very critical look at
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what you're going to do with that player. But because
you are now you're you're already considered a depreciating asset,
like the moment you take the car off the lot,
but now you're even more of a depreciating asset. And
if you're not aware that, then you had better learn
that very quickly. If you're if you're playing the game,
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and that is not just at the pro level, that's
every level.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Do you know where he's at, where he's at the
Sam Darnold cycle, where he's coming from the ground of
the injury makes things a little different. But he's coming
from that like gray year in Minnesota where but yeah,
but didn't play great there down the stretch. And with him,
it's kind of like, yeah, he played great, but we
didn't get to see him down the stretch and he's
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got an injury. It's almost like it's gonna take one
of those four years him getting into the playoffs playing
well to prove otherwise, at least in my mind, because
I still think there's that doubt in the back of
everyone's mind like could he be a guy plays well
for stretch of time, Sure, but can he do it
for the entire of the season when it matters most
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heading into the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Still don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
So with with those questions, are you willing to pay
him a one year, fully guaranteed deal for forty three million?
And if you're not, I mean, he's kind of got
them in a tough spot, right, Like we know they're
already letting Anthony Richardson move on. You know, maybe you'd say, Okay,
we saw something Riley Lennard the end of the season,
we'd go with that, but I feel like this organization
feels too close to being able to compete and make
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it into the playoffs, so I don't I don't know
that they want to start over. I think they're going
to try to, you know, push and push and get
Daniel Jones back there as soon as possible, but his
offseason at a minimum, is going to be greatly impacted
as far as his ability to prepare him for the
team to prepare around him.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
So it's it's a great thing for Riley Leonard.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
He's gonna get more reps or any other quarterback they've
got on the roster, But I don't know that that's
going to bode well for them when the season comes
around if Daniel j can't, you know, get healthy and
get back sooner until basically training camp, which is probably.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
The timeline is on. You called a game last year
in Indy, right, I did that based on the circumstances.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yes, Okay, Well, I don't mean to bring that up,
and I don't need to bring that, but I meant
that you talk to people there and they were pretty
ecstatic about what Daniel Jones had done up to that point.
I mean, it felt like they were heading in the
right direction and then all this happened. That's why I
just they're in a table that felt.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Like a really good fit between Shane Stikeen and what
he's looking for from a quarterback and then Daniel Jones's
skill set. Meaning there's a lot of coaches who want
you to be an extension of them out there in
the field, and when you can be that and you
can do it successfully, it's a match made in heaven
because they feel like they can entrust things on you
and they don't have to be perfect with every play call,
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and you can put the team in a good play call.
I mean they're one in which when he walks through
the line of scrimmers, they've got a play call, but
they've they can go to two or three different things.
And when you have a quarterback who can execut that,
it makes life easier on everyone involved. And it also
allows you to utilize talent where guys can can play
the role. You know, Alec Pears and Josh Downs and
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the young man of the e Pittman out on the outside.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Like each one of those guys.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Was able to kind of evolve to as a player
a bit because you didn't have to worry about you know,
how the offense was being executed. You knew that Daniel
Johns is gonna execute it the way Shane Steakins all fits.
So that to me is the biggest thing that kind
of stands out. But that and the fact that when
you're coming off in Achilles injury, I think you know
this better than anyone.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
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Speaker 5 (33:07):
By the way, can I get a Prisco prediction from
Brady Quinn who's known that savage for a long time now?
When the subject of Daniel Jones has brought up, What
is Prisco going to say about Daniel Jones as a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
What would you.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I think he'll acknowledge his improvement. He'll also acknowledge the injury.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
And yeah, what y'all you know?
Speaker 6 (33:29):
But but how good really is he? We didn't see
him in the crunch time. You know, he'll bring up
all these things. I think he'll eventually say that. They'll
tag him as like a one year prove a deal.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
But man, that's a lot of money, you know, he'll
make something like that. Does kids? No, Yeah, he's saying
was he an holy child?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
No, he's got he's at least one older. I think
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
He might.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Muggsy Calhoun he got like that, Like you remember, remember
the baby they used to put in the carriage and
Looney Tunes And he had tattoo and he smoked his cigar,
but he had a baby.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
You think that's Frisco. You know.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Brady mentioned this last week and I didn't realize it
at the time because I hadn't watched the interview yet.
But you know, Prisco's got this thing about, you know,
not kicking field goals, and he's like, and I look,
I kind of tend to lean and agree with him,
but I guess Ben Johnson sat down for an interview
with them, and Ben Johnson sat down with an interview
(34:48):
with Florio afterwards and was like, yeah, just talking to
Pete down.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
There, he was getting on me about not kicking a
field goal.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Like Pete couldn't help himself the first thing He'll sit
to anybody.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
That's what I've always said about p that I love
about him, and I think for a lot of other
people getting growing in the business. You know, He's always said,
you got to like go out there and talk to people.
You can't just hide behind a camera or your phone
and put up these reports and say it be a
tough critic, but then can't do it to someone's face.
He said, if you're gonna be a tough critic, you
better be able to stay to their face too. And
(35:19):
that's one of the things I respectful truth. Yeah, I
respect that he doesn't pull punch. You'll say what he
thinks and lils and I that'll call you out on it.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
That's so funny. Couldn't help himself. It is two pros
and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming up
next here though we are going to tell you about
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Football League and that a great time for at least
a couple of players in the league. That's yours here
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Speaker 5 (36:00):
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Speaker 5 (36:06):
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to make sure you stick around for that or join
us back here. Ten minutes from now tis the season
in the NFL. Players are getting released. We've got cap
casualties around the league, some notable names. A couple from yesterday.
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Marshaw Lattimore gone tang from the Washington Commandos. It's going
to save them over eighteen million dollars in cap space.
He's twenty nine and coming off of torn acl So
this time, jeez, So this this does feel like he's
probably gonna have to wait a little while if he's
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going to get a look from a team this upcoming season.
Based on the injury in the age for Marshawn Lattimore,
Jwan Taylor as well too. The off side's King of
the NFL released by the Chiefs. It's going to save
them about twenty million dollars against the cap. Fun fact
about Juwan Taylor. In forty five games with the Chiefs,
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he committed forty nine penalties forty one that were accepted,
so that by far and away leads the league Juwan Taylor.
So there's a couple of cap casualties in the NFL.
And is this just sort of you just kind of
know when you sign the deal a you get as
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much guaranteed money as you can and eventually this is
the way this league operates.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Yeah, that's why every single time we talk about deals,
especially as the new league year approaches us, you're gonna
hear these huge numbers and none of the matter because
the back end of the contract, especially if they're backloaded,
if there's no guarantees at that point, it's all the fluff.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
It's it's just what's on paper. There's no onus to
the ownership.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
So you look at the amount of year, the amount
of money that's guaranteed, and the duration of the contract,
and usually there's someone to retreat a one two if you're.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
A quarterback, maybe three years of guarantees.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
It's very seldom for any position outside of quarterback to
get more than two years of guarantees in their contract.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
That's just how.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Business has been done that you could say, well, what
about the first round picks or rookies. Yeah, true, you
know those deals are fully guaranteed. But we're talking about
the second contract that you know, free agent contract, you're
signing that that next big contract. It's really hard to
get owners to commit to a huge number that's got
more than two years of guarantees in it.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
They just they won't do it.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
But in regards to the Chiefs though, with Taylor moving
off from him LaVar you said it last year, I
mean you feel like this is this is it.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Chiefs are done.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
No way they can rebuild, retool to get back.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
In the mix again. It's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I don't I think it's gonna be tough for them
to revisit being an elite team. I stand on that.
I still feel that that way about it. Yeah, I'm
I'm I'm pretty firm on that their run could be over.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yes, ten toes down. Yes, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
I don't even feel any trepidation about it either, Like
I feel like they've had an improbable run, a grow
to prominence that that has led to a reverence for
coach Andy Reid, who was not able to fully achieve
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that when he was in Philadelphia. I mean there's a lot.
There's a lot to that, but I mean I give
him a lot of credit for what he was able
to accomplish. And and if this is it, I mean, okay,
but I'm not why you asked that though? Why do
you ask that?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Was that like a setup question? No, it's setting up,
just answer. You talked about it a lot last year. Yeah,
the run was I think the run is over. The tackles, Yeah,
I think the run is over.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Man, I do I just wonder because I think it
does illustrate how incredible the Patriots run was because they
had that initial like the Chiefs are having, and then
they had another one. You know, it was ten years
between Super Bowl wins for New England and where Kansas
City's at I mean, Andy Reid's not going to be
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here for another ten years. He's not doing it for
ten years.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Who knows.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Patrick Mahomes already coming off an injury, and who knows
what's going to happen there. It just I would tend
to agree with LeVar. I think that's probably the end.
But I'm curious to see, you know what this next
version of Kansas City looks like they try to entertaining
or transition into a new era. It's gonna look a
lot like what it has looked like. It's gonna be
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a whole lot of whole lot of defense. Maybe even
the defense takes a step back. I don't know, Chris
Jones is it was one of the most
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