March 4, 2026 • 41 mins
In Hour 2 of the show, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington discuss who has and has not been tagged in the NFL for this offseason. Plus the guys debate run schemes and players in the NFL, have another fun edition of The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly, and more!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:40):
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Speaker 4 (00:47):
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If Jonas hates on this, then I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Hey bruh, Hey bruh.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
There's no hate on Soundgarden.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I think got better songs than this. But it's fine.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
It is.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
What is a killer brod far Black Owl Sun. Won't
you come?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Watch Way Ray?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Won't you come?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Won't you come?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Easy? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Just take it easy there.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
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Speaker 3 (01:51):
Uh, there's some sound guards, get some good songs.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It's not that one.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
No, it's a good song. No, it's a good song.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Good album too, by your song, uh spoon I think
spoon Man is on that album as well, two of them,
not mistaken spoon Man, pretty noos all right, no, but
what's what's is it?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Pretty news?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I think it is one of their songs you have,
they've got They've had some good hits, you know, one
of the uh the core four of the grunge era.
There so good for sound grad. I was surprised. I
thought you were gonna stay with the karate Kid for
for a little while.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Hey man, you know, just keep you on y'all toes
that's all you know.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'm into it.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
I was happy to hear it. That's a good song.
I like that song. I didn't change mine.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I feel like after the last one that shout the
Isley Brothers really hasn't done it for you.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
M M.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'm sor right.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I love the Isley Brothers. I was giving you a
hard time. Yeah, and that's you know that it does
for me because I'm a duck dad, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
So yeah, so you get it.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, Oh I definitely, it definitely hits me. Yeah, I
don't don't. I don't want to like it, but I mean,
you know, yeah, every time I go to a game,
you know they play the duck.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Yeah, yeah, the fourth quarters cool.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But they do it for for the other sports too,
So like volleyball, they do it going into the I
believe the last set of volleyballs.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
By the way, speaking of ducks, there's two ducks that
fly into the community quack quack motheruh, the community pool
at the place I live.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
At, or black ducks their mallards and they drink the
chlorine pool water.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And I'm just looking at it going there's no way
that's gonna end.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well. Look, that can't be good for soften their stool
up a little bit, you know what I mean? All Right,
they might not consume enough maybe over time.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
And I see some of the the filth and the
scumbags that go into that pool, and I can't imagine
those those ducks are gonna last very long.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't know if the.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Life expectancy is of a duck, but if you're if
you're somebody out there looking to you know, get a
cheap meal, I'd look elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It's not gonna not gonna go well.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
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your screen. All right, to tag or not to tag?
In the NFL, you got teams that were making moves
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and making decisions on the subject yesterday around the league.
All right, First and foremost, Daniel Jones. The Colts are
placing the transition tag on DJ, meaning they can match
any competing offer sheet that Jones may get. If he
gets one, he'll make thirty If he gets none, he'll
make thirty seven point eight million dollars this next year. Right,
(05:03):
So if nobody signed him doing off for sheet, he's
gonna get.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Almost It saves them what's six million?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
He would have been paid forty three ish on the tag,
on the franchise tag.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And it's a good move for him.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
It's a good move for.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Him, but I think it's a good move for the
organization too, even though yeah, we haven't seen this use
since nineteen ninety six. I believe it was what the
Falcons used. It was on Jeff George, Is that right,
something along those lines. But the last time it was used,
there's only thirty teams in the NFL and the Super
Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks, they were playing the AFC, So
(05:38):
it's been a while since we've seen the transition tag
used like this.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I didn't he I never even heard of a transition tag.
So go figure.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
You thought it applied to Jonas, didn't you.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, well he didn't pay up on his his wager,
so that's right. But yes, I would have thought that
it would have been based off.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Man, I don't even know if I can. I don't
know if I can tell this story on the air of.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
This you can, And by the way, that isn't even
I mean, that's that probably makes you not a man
of the people more than anything else. When you lay
a bet the way you did about Tony Romo getting
the TV contract that now, by the way, is so
old that it's completely reversed course where people like don't
want to pay him and don't want to be on
TV anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
So that's that's how old that bet is that you
never paid off.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Yeah, but that that is the ultimate on the right side,
wrong result bet.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
That's the one.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Pete Prisco would be proud of that one because I
said there was no way Tony Romo is getting that money.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And he did.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
But hindsight is in your favor. But still there's a
lot of people out there who wanted to.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
See you, you know, yeah, pay off the bet.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear about it, I want to.
I want to see if you're going to pay it off.
I mean, you know, it's never too late.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
For the for the new audience.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Lorraina, do you have that prediction on Tony Romo's contract
that I made years ago that if this sounds like
it's AI generated, but me gander, they're claiming this is
a real quote from me. Regarding Tony Romo's second contract
with CBS to call games, there were some rumblings at
the time that he was going to get ten million dollars.
(07:16):
As it turns out, what did he get like eighteen
million a year. I think that's what he ended up
getting or something along those lines. But he got paid
and there was a debate about whether or not he
was going to get paid, and there's some you're.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Very adamant he was not going to get paid. I
think over ten million, and by the way, he almost
doubled that.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I think Troy Aikman also thanked him for the money.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Well, everyone's just I mean, you could make the case
for Tom Brady, like even though tom Brady's Tom Brady.
I don't know that that number gets as astronomical if
not for Romo's money, because there there was an element
of looking at what those guys are making, saying, well,
this needs to blow that out of the water. But
if they never jumped from the you know, seven, eight
(08:05):
nine million a year numbers, it.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Never doubles into an eighteen nineteen twenty million a year
whatever they're making.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, well, I don't think we have the sound. I
can't find it. That's all right, that is what it is.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
So someone did away with that.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
No, it's probably.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
They're probably here somewhere.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I looked under Tony, I looked under Romo, I looked
under Jonas Knox, Tony Romo, Tony Romo, Knox, Knox Locks.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
I feel like Iowa Sam always had it. I'm trying
to thank you.
Speaker 8 (08:33):
He did.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
I'm not sure we've got there's another folder that might
be deleted at this point based on you know, recent happening.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Fair point.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Yeah, so so Daniel Jones. He got the transition tag.
So there's that. Trey Hendrickson of the Cincinnati Bengals. He
will not get tagged. There will be no franchise tag
for Trey Hendrickson. He's going to be an unrestricted free agent.
He posted a goodbye message on social media. Hopefully it
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just was a little bit different than the driving away
message he posted last year, only to return to camp
in Cincinnati, but roving away he's a goner and most
likely going to end shows a whole lot of trade
in today.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
There'll be a market for Trey Henderson.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
He's going to be a Hall of Famer too. He
got he got banged up last year. But Trey Henderson's
gonna have some options out there. Let's get to the quarterback.
You got got problems, man, What what is the what's
the market looking like for Trey Hendrickson now in his
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thirties early thirties, coming off an injury season. But somebody
who's put up numbers as far as getting to the quarterback.
What do we what do we think about market?
Speaker 7 (09:52):
When he's healthy, he's he's effective.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
The problem is, I'm not sure he ever cashed in
on the big deal he was, you know, looking to
get So does he go the mercenary route where he's
taking it a one year deal at a time to
the highest bidder. Does he try to go to a
place where he feels like he has a chance to
win a Super Bowl? You know, at this stage of
your career, you know, some guys have made enough money.
Some guys want to make more. It's basically one of
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those two decisions. Usually they don't both work hand in hand.
So that's that's how I see it. But I would
think that like Buffalo would be a really interesting fit,
New England would be a very interesting fit, and something
that LaVar talked about. I kind of feel like Trey
Hendrickson probably has a red ass and he wouldn't mind
staying in the AFC and going back up against the Bengals.
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And those are both teams too in Buffalo and New
England that I think they're trying to improve and build
back on that side of the ball, especially with some
edge rushers, and I think he'd be a scheme fit
for both those guys, So that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Do you think that if he does get like if
he signed somewhere else, he'll be shocked to walk in
and go, wow, you guys have like running water like
I'm not used to.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He played. He played somewhere before he went to Senci, Right, you.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Guys have you guys have a practice facility New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
New Orleans. Yeah, I don't. I don't know their facility.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
But well we know the city. We were there last year.
So he went from here, New Orleans to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
There is a market for mister Hendrickson, and he should
be a pretty well sought after guy. I would obviously
make it contingent upon how he he grades out on
his on his physical but in terms of recruitment of
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getting him onto the onto my team and getting him
to the point of where it's like, I'd rather have
to tell Trey Hendrickson, yet, your your physical show this,
it came back. These are red flags. We want to
sign you, but we probably can't give you what it
(11:59):
is is that you're seeking, but we would love to
have you. I would rather do that than to go
and lead with that or or pass up, pass up
on him altogether. I think if he I think he
still has an upside for at least one to two seasons,
like high upside if if if he can stay healthy
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and if if things you know, kind of shake out
the right way with his physical But I would I
would assume that there is a strong market, especially considering
that there isn't a ton of marquee talent that's going
to be set to be free agents this year's cycle.
As Pete Prisco has mentioned in his you know his articles.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Yeah, all right, so somebody else who also got.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Would you guys do it? Would you guys? Would you
guys take it? Like? Do you feel like there would
be a legitimate market on.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Him on a two, two, maybe three year deal?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah? I think so we've made the point. He's the
same age as TJ. Watt if TJ. Watt was available
on the market with people go after him. He's dealt
with inyes too, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (13:08):
He got one punctured Let me think about that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, you get you a dope pass rusher of that caliber.
There's going to be a market for him. The question
is Ken again same thing? And we talked about with
Kyler is within that market. Is Trey Hendrickson going to
look at it and say, there's a premium on my
position and so I want this amount or is he
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going to be like, yeah, I get it. You know,
I've dealt with injuries whatever, bla, let me get it
on a play a contract. I'm used to that anyway
with what I've done in since He's so let's let's
let's play it out and see what happens better on yourself.
But then they're going to say you're a year older,
you're a year ahead, like you know, maybe they're not
going to want to do that, but I mean there's
a market for for Trey Hendrickson for certain.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Yeah, and it puts to bed the long drawn out
drama that was his fiasco with Cincinnati over the past
couple of years.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Somebody else who also.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Is not going to be tagged. Maybe this one comes
as a little bit of a surprise. You guys familiar
with the name Kenneth Walker, just one MVP in the
Super Bowl. The Seahawks not going to franchise tag as
he's referred to Kenny Walker by Patrick Sweeka. But he's
going to be an unrestricted free agent. Not a bad
time to hit the market after that run he had
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to close out last year into the postseason in the
super Bowl. But now the Seahawks, you know, we figure
out what the plan is as Kenny Walker is going
to be on his way elsewhere if they don't come
to terms on a deal. So no no tag for
Kenny Walker there.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I mean, I hate to say it, but you know,
running backs in this league, man, it's it's tough sledding
for them. I had these talents that he showcased it,
especially you know, having to be the bell cow two
for the final, you know, the postseason run for a
super Bowl. But the reality is there is always a
number of guys coming to the league that can can
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do your job.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
And that's the tough part, is it.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
It's just it's hard to capitalize nowadays a running back
unless you are one of those guys who's extremely dynamic.
You know, we talked about that with Jamir Gibbs and
David Montgomery. You know, Beijon Robinson, sa kwon like throw
your name in that category unless you're one of those
guys who is a mismatch in the passing game. And
also is that dynamic of the backfield. It's just hard.
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And I'm not saying I mean, I think we don't agree.
He's not any of those guys. But he's a damn
good running back and he's capable. He's a capable catcher.
I remember coming out of college when he was at
Michigan State, like that was one of the knocks on him,
as you're gon't catch many footballs, you know, could he
do it? And then he's he showcased the ability to
do it. But it just it feels like, you know,
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he hasn't really been the guy who's been highlighted in
that spot.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
He's very capable.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
So I again, I think he'll he'll find a home.
It's just I don't think it's going to be for
a huge deal. And you know, maybe he'll get close
to the tag number as far as his average annual value,
but I can't imagine it's it's gonna be too.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Much above that. He's going to be a seahawk. But
at least they you know, maybe they explained to him
why they don't want to play the tag game with him.
You know, you could easily spin that conversation into a
conversation of respect. So could he be offended. Sure, you
could be offended because you want a new contract, But
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could you possibly look at it from the standpoint of,
you know, you just played your heart out. We just
want a championship. And if there's someone out there that
wants to offer you more money, we're not going to
make it a point to, you know, penalize you, you know,
in a way where you could get somewhere, go somewhere else,
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make make the money that you might want that might
be more than here. By trying to put the tag
on you and and them having to give us picks,
and it could make it go go wrong. Then you
got to come back and you feel like you weren't
want it. We want you, but this is what we
can pay. And and so I just feel like he's
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a likable guy, and I think there's a strong possibility
that he ends up being back with the Seahawks after
this anyway.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
I mean, if he's not, what's their planet running back
Charbona is injured, Yeah, you've got on the roster. Kenny
McIntosh and George Hallani, I don't maybe they just address
it in the draft to Brady's point, Maybe they just
look at and go we'll take our chances with somebody
in the draft and go that direction. But yeah, he's
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a thirty one old for running back. That's super old,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, I mean I think most organizations would say that's
old for any player.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Any player. Yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
What's think about it?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Like, guys are they usually their contracts because and the
teams will do it this way, those guarantees run out
with that second contract around twenty and they make that
decision headed into thirty.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, you know, he's most likely, he's the most I mean,
do you think that maybe they're going to go after briefs?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, no, he got he got tagged.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
He got tagged.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, he was next up on the tag or not
to tag.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Uh, he got to catch his tag.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
So he's gonna make a little over fourteen next year
and uh probably thrilled about the idea of sticking around
in New York.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
But the Jets, there's there's really no other etn Like
that's there's really no other running back. JK. Dobbins is
going to potentially I think he's going. Is he going
to be available? I think he'll be. He'll be He's
an interesting back that if he you know, if he
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performs up to to standard, you know, he just never
really got going in the two stops that he's been
that thus far, like all the way. But I don't know, man,
it seems like a risky, a risky move on Seattle's
part because their running game was such a major part
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of what they have going on.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Let me ask you as this as longtime football fans,
because I feel this way, does it kind of bum
you out that the running back position is where it's
at that it's almost.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
The most prestigious, It was the most prestigious outside of
the quarterback, that.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Was the star position outside of quarterback.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah. Absolutely, And it's just man, and some would say
they were like right there, like neck and neck. Like
if you think about the historical you know, names that
are connected to our game, you know, I bet you
there's more people that know about historical running backs than
they do quarterbacks. I mean, if we're being honest, like
(19:53):
you go back to the days, I don't know about that.
Oh yeah, oh yeah. Name a bigger quarterback name and
the Jim Brown era, there is none. There is none.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
I'd say, what why is his name?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Escape I'm seeing right now because because it ain't it ain't.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Well, I don't have to think of the years he
was there, but like Johnny Unitas was a pretty big
deal back then, Darren Starr not even close to Jim Brown.
I mean, that's your opinion. There's people who might not
feel that way, like I'm not. Like, like, Jim Brown
was obviously a monumental figure for a lot of reasons.
(20:30):
It wasn't just what he did in the field, though,
you know, his acting is push for civil rights like
he was. He was one of those athletes that transcended
just being an athlete. So I think that's He's an
interesting one to bring up. But I do think there's
a lot of other really really well known like quarterbacks.
I mean, and I know the league wasn't always about quarterbacks,
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but it's still they're still kind of looked at it
that way. And you could call me biased for saying it,
but I would say at a at a certain point
in time, there's no doubt they're much more even I
don't It hasn't been viewed that way for a long time,
and I'm not sure it ever will go back now
the way the game is, especially people pushing seven on
seven in flag you.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Know, well that's it's a quarterback. It is all the
way quarterback. Now it's not even close. But in those
days at one hundred percent was the running back. Again.
I know we had the debate on on how many
times the percentage of throwing the ball, but keep in
mind the only time that we were at fifty percent
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fifty to fifty for running the ball was like in
the nineteen forties. The percentage has always been higher to
throw the ball. But the importance look it up on
your spare time, the yeah look it up that time
right now?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yeah important, We got ai buddy. This stuff happens fast.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, go ahead check it out ya way moment. The
bottom line here is that the game was driven by backs.
That's why you're called a quarter back. It was running
like quarterbacks were backs. So you had half backs, you
had full backs, you had you had, you had quarterbacks.
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So it was a it was a game of triple options.
It was a games of you know, student body left,
stutent body rights. It was all about running. The game
was truly built off of the trenches and the runners.
It wasn't the ball was shaped differently. It wasn't about
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throwing the ball. It was about handing it off, pitching it,
and running it. So there was a time where the
back who carried and ran the ball was the most
critical and important piece to the offense in football. And
so it just is what it is, and it has
evolved and has continued to evolve, and people love seeing
(22:53):
the deep ball being thrown and people running catch it
and do those things. That's what turned into the entertainment
value of it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
How far back do you want to go as far
as the run pass split percentages in the NFL or
with NFL franchise, I should say, obviously, you know the.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
NFL far We we got to get to break and
we tease it.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Come on, let's go to break.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Yeah, we'll get to break and let's go to bread.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Let me let me, let me tease it this way,
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All right, So we are going to continue the discussion
from the nineteen forties and it's yours next year on FSR.
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we at on the rush to pass ratio historically in
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the NFL from nearly one hundred years ago?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yeah, I was just saying, it's obviously not favorable to
Levar's point if you go too far back, like the
nineteen thirties to the really the fifties, it was heavily
slanted towards run. Really, like almost twenty five to thirty
percent of plays we're only passed. Things didn't change until
there's an AFL influence in the league. Mean because the AFL.
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I don't even know if you're talking.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I said, what do you mean? I said, what do
you mean? That doesn't go to my point? That's exactly
what I said. Actually, I said, did you.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Just say passing became has always been part of the league.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
No, you said passing was always a part of the league.
I just gave you a whole explanation about running the ball. Yes,
in the early night.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
But Missard me, then I think you're on a delay man,
because it's it's hard to hit out.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Am I on a delay? I mean, I feel like
I'm I'm speaking.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Clear well anyway, historically, I'm not sure what you're trying
to say then, because one of the reason why I
looked this up is it sounded like you made a
case that running has always been up there. But anyway,
thirties to fifties heavily run oriented. It wasn't until the
AFL influence came into the league. You obviously had different
rules that were brought in which when were favorable to
wide receivers, in particular in nineteen seventy eight, that's when
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things became more balanced. So really around that time, you
would say, late seventies into the eighties, it's pretty much
been a fifty to fifty, if not more so, pass
heavy as opposed to run. And now obviously we're getting
to a point where teams are passing the football in
some rates, like the twenty fifteen Dolphins sixty three percent
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of the time the twenty thirteen Falcon sixty seven percent
of the time. So depending on which team you picked,
the splits are not as even as they once were,
which again goes back to our conversation about running backs. Unfortunately,
there's not valued as much as they used to be,
and the leagues kind of made a shift where quarterbacks
have been more the center and the focal point of
most offenses.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, I think the point that I was making was
based off of yesterday saying that you know, the percentage
of run versus pass had you know. The debate of
it was that this was at some point a balanced
league and it's never really like you can't say it's
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we talked about. The debate came from the past first
mentality versus the run first mentality, and my contention was
just because you have a higher percentage of past doesn't
mean you can't be a run first team. That's where
the whole debate came from. So then the point that I.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Would say, if you're run first, that that's what you're
always looking to do first.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yes, but that doesn't mean that you're going to do
it at a higher percentage than past. Is the point
that I was making.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
That doesn't make any sense to me, Like that I
always say you're not a run first team.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It makes a ton of sense because you could run
the ball first, but you it doesn't necessarily mean that
you're going to run the ball more. You can run.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I always think I think we're defining it. I think
we're defining it two different ways.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Okay, all right, Well, I'm just saying for me, the
way I look at it, you can just because the
percentage is not the same, which goes all the way back.
The percentage of pass has always been pretty much higher
since the nineteen forties, like in nineteen what nineteen, In
the nineteen forties it was close to fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
If it was not if it hasn't close to fifty
to fifty until like you get into really the the
up into the seventies. Really, there were some moments in
the sixties when the AFL got involved, where like the
Broncos back then threw a bunch in nineteen sixty one.
But that's kind of it.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It's pretty much still more pass it's still more passed. Yes,
the percent of passing the ball is higher. I mean,
you're laughing, but I don't. I don't because I the stats.
I literally just looked all this up. Okay, So you're
the only one that can look things up. I got it. Okay,
Well let's move on. Let's move on, because at the
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end of the day, the percentage of pass outside of
the early days of football in the early nineteen hundreds,
like mid nineteen twenties, nineteen thirties, forties or whatever it
was run. It was like, I'm trying to help you out.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I'm trying to educate you on why passing became more
of a thing in nineteen seventy eight because of some
of the league rules changes. It's why passing has become
more of a thing now because the protection for receivers.
Do running backs get those same protections. No, So you
can take more aggressive risks and take more chances down
the field because they're not getting hit like they used to.
So it's maybe easier to pass a throw under those
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windows or even get penalties for some of that now.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
So my mentality, the mental agreeing with what that is.
I agree. I agree with the rule changes, I agree
with the approach of it is one hundred percent a
pass first league now. But even with that being said,
when it was a run first game, that the percentages
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of passing have still been higher than the run they've
thrown the ball more than they've ran the ball. Even
being a run first team a run first league. That's that.
That was the only point that I'm making, Like I'm
not making any ulterior you know, points or anything like that.
My focus was to the conversation. You could still be
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a run first team and not have higher percentages of run.
That would be a run dominant team, not a run
first team. If I'm going to lead off with the run,
I want to run the ball, I want to establish
the run. It does not mean that I am I'm
going to run the ball more than I'm throwing the ball.
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It just means that's what I want.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
And that's your opinion, because that's a terrible offensive mind plan,
game plan, because no one's going to supper and say
we're just gonna run on first down every time, right, No,
that's why I'm saying, your definition, that's implication. Then how
I look at it, You're you're implying that that's what
I meant by you're going to just run on first
down every time.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
That's that's an implication.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Because if you're run first every time, then that's the
first thing you're trying to accomplish.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
And that's the first thing you're gonna do most often.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
So all right, So, assuming the Jets are a run
first team, who's playing quarterback next year? Because we know
Breese Hall got the tag? Anybody got any guesses? Is
who's going to be the quarterback for the New York
Jets next year? Because I'm gonna I got one, not
justin fields, I'll go I'll throw the first.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Can I ask this?
Speaker 4 (31:47):
If you're brits Hall, though, do you want to sign
a long term deal? I know this obviously buys time
for them because they're deadlines later on the summer. Now,
if you're Brits Hall, though, are you kind of okay
like letting this thing play itself out so you can
maybe have more clarity on that question, like who's my quarterback?
Where's this organization going? Can I get to free agency
where I might be valued somewhere else? This is probably
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one of those few instances where like, unless you get
offered a absolute bag and a huge contract, there might
be some consideration of being like, I just want to
keep trying to push to get the free agency.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yes, you want to push to get the free agency,
but if it's about getting the bag, if you can
get the bag and the jet with the Jets, you
get that.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
I just said that.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, so no, I don't. I don't
think you wait to see it play out if you
can get the bag right now, the more things play
out waiting to see you Okay, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Look, there's a deadline in the summer.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
At that point in time, the Jets will have to
make their best final offer. If that number is not
I don't know, three two years of guarantees maybe plus
more than you know, plus whatever that is in the
franchise tag. Right, so obviously you're going to factor in
this year's guaranteed contract that's the floor for your negotiations.
Then you do one hundred and twenty percent of that
because that's where the second year under the tag would be.
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That should be the baseline of guarantees that's offered to
bres Hall, if not more. If he's not offered more
than that, If i'm him, I play under the tag,
and then I sit there and say I want to
get the free agency and I'm pretty sure they're not
going to tag him again. Most teams don't for a
running back a second time. But that also gives you
great clarity and seeing what they do this year and
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what the organization is looking to do and what they
look like. So that would be the most sensible way
of handling.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I think.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Also, if you're the Jets, why would you commit long
term to a running back? You're awful, They're nowhere close
to competing anywhere, Like they signed Sauce Gardner to a
deal and traded him, Like they're the Quinn Williams. They're
nowhere close to competing. So why would you invest long
term in a running back when you don't even know
who's going to be throwing the football? It will feel
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like the forties again, like they.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Didn't you just hear what we just debated. You better
find a high price receiver and quarterback that Tay got
Garret will Yeah, you need more. You need more than
just Garrett Wilson, So you better. You better be focused
in on playmakers on the outside and who's throwing the ball.
Those are the two things, and protecting that if it's
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if we're talking focus on offense, that's your first focus
has to be who's going to be your quarterback or
who's going to protect your quarterback? If I can get
a better person or a few that can protect the
quarterback better versus going after a quarterback. I'll take my
I'll take my chances. We're building up my front and
address the quarterback position at a later time when it's
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more favorable. Considering that, you're probably still going to be
trash as a team moving forward, but at least you'll
be better up front, and that's in better position to
put a quarterback in that in that situation. That's what
I would say.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
You know what's interesting about that, because I agree with you,
is is Peter stro Route.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Oh god, Quinn agree? Okay, go ahead, I'm sorry. I
know I've gotten brother today.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
We're gonna break.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
We'll be back. No, no, no, don't come on, finish
your point.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I just you know, I'm just glad he got to
act down, do his thing and think.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
Just a sensitive dude.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Man.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
You can never have a conversation with LeVar because he's
so sensitive.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I mean, Ralph Tresment, you know, man with sensitivities, a
man like me.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
It is two pros and a cup of joe.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn Jonas knocks.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
With you up next we are going to have.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Another edition of our midweek awards, the Good, the Bad,
the Ugly right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
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Speaker 5 (36:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Coming out top of next hour.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
A little over ten minutes from now, we are going
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Speaker 3 (36:10):
That'll be yours right here on FSR. You'll be able
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Speaker 5 (36:12):
As always on the iHeartRadio app on hundreds of affiliates
as well too.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
But right now it is time for a Wednesday tradition
here on the show. It's time for this.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Of course, there are some good things that happen, and
there's some bad, and then there's some downright ugly things.
It's time for good, bad and ugly and.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
For that to find out what responsibilities we have this week,
we turn it over to the respected Sheriff SWEEKA sheriff.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Well, howdy, it's all right.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Well I keep it together, Patty. If you're gonna go
full bit, you gotta go full bit all the way.
Speaker 8 (36:53):
No, you're right, you're right, My bad, sheriff, my bad.
All right, it's Tom for the good and the bad.
You ugly brothers will and round them up. It's time
we have are good and share of far. Well, brother,
you're the good. Let's hear it.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Are good for the week. And sports. I mean, I
really been enjoying this, this whole NBA type of deal.
I mean, I'm trying to get into baseball, so you
got the whole the.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Oh yeah, that the league's getting.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Going the peat what is the Peach League and the
what what are they called the the Orange the Orange League,
the Watermelon League. So yeah, baseball is is getting back
into it. But you know, basketball is heating up. So
I'm just I'm just happy to be a sports fan
that gets to look at other sports outside of outside
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of football. Right now, That's what I'll say. My good
for the week is my my Fubo and my my
YouTube TV has had multiple different sports going throughout the
course of the day. So there you go, all right,
I like it.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
I like well, up next with the bed we have
Sheriff Quinn. Let's hear yours.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
I hate to say this one, and I'm not sure
how many people saw it, but Shane Lowry at the
Cognizant Classic up in Palm.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Beaches this week. I believe it's his home.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Course, and he had a three stroke lead on the
field heading into whole number sixteen.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
It's only three holes to.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Play, and he went back to back double bogies in
what was called the famous bear Trap. That's one of
the harder, you know, three holes you had to play
to kind of finish out a course, and unfortunately blew
the lead and just hearing hearing hear him talk about
it afterwards and how he just wanted to have that
moment with his child up, you know, greeting him at
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the eighteenth gree and after he went, how disappointing that
was for him. It was kind of heart wrenching, but
it was. It was definitely bad. It was a tough
moment to watch for anny golf fans.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
Who saw it.
Speaker 8 (38:54):
All right, well, how about there for them golfers. And
finally we have our uggle in this Sheriff Knox let's
wrap it up with they.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Well, we go back to about a year ago, twenty
twenty five. March of twenty twenty five, Jerkson Profar of
the Atlanta Braves, he got suspended for eighty games because
he pissed hot was on the gas with something called
human choreonic gano dopatrin or something like that. It's basically
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a hormone typically made during pregnancy that can encourage testosterone production.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Right.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
So, now, after that suspension, jerks and Profar said the
following quote, it is because of my deep love and
respect for the game that I would never knowingly do
anything to cheat. He was surprised. The Braves said they
were surprised and extremely disappointed.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
So he figured out the guy's learned this lesson not
pissed hot again.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Jerks and Profar now suspended for the entire season. He
gets popped once again for testing positive for a performance
enhancing drug for the second time in Major League Baseball
eighty games. The first time one sixty two. The second.
I believe a lifetime ban. At the third or the fourth,
whatever it is, a guy can't keep away from the gas.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
So that's my ugly for the week.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Jackson profar, which, by the way, it's also the sixth
time since Major League Baseball got real strict with their
with their testing that a player has been suspended for
the entire season. So even though all that discussion about,
you know, we're gonna get out of the sport and
get rid of all that stuff, guys are still trying
to cut corners and there's probably still guys out there
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that just aren't getting confident or doing it.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
He's ineligible now for the World Baseball Classic too, which
apparently he was representing that the Netherlands, So that's unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Really yeah, wow, who knew.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Also, the Braves, they've already lost Spencer Schwellenbach and Hurston Waltrip,
two pitchers who had elbow injuries.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
So tough offseasons, so far off the Braves.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Yeah, but the World Baseball Classics coming up.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That love the WBC.
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
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Speaker 3 (00:40):
He is on fire.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Here comes Jonas's hate. Oh no, this is a banger.
If Jonas hates on this, then I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Hey bruh, Hey bruh.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
There's no hate on Soundgarden.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
I think got better songs than this. But it's fine.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
It is.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
What is a killer brod far Black Owl Sun. Won't
you come?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Watch Way Ray?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Won't you come?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Won't you come?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Easy? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Just take it easy there.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Uh, it is two Pros and a Cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Rady Quinn, Jonas,
Jonas knocks with you.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Uh, there's some sound guards, get some good songs.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It's not that one.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
No, it's a good song. No, it's a good song.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Good album too, by your song, uh spoon I think
spoon Man is on that album as well, two of them,
not mistaken spoon Man, pretty noos all right, no, but
what's what's is it?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Pretty news?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I think it is one of their songs you have,
they've got They've had some good hits, you know, one
of the uh the core four of the grunge era.
There so good for sound grad. I was surprised. I
thought you were gonna stay with the karate Kid for
for a little while.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Hey man, you know, just keep you on y'all toes
that's all you know.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'm into it.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
I was happy to hear it. That's a good song.
I like that song. I didn't change mine.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I feel like after the last one that shout the
Isley Brothers really hasn't done it for you.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
M M.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'm sor right.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I love the Isley Brothers. I was giving you a
hard time. Yeah, and that's you know that it does
for me because I'm a duck dad, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
So yeah, so you get it.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, Oh I definitely, it definitely hits me. Yeah, I
don't don't. I don't want to like it, but I mean,
you know, yeah, every time I go to a game,
you know they play the duck.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Yeah, yeah, the fourth quarters cool.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But they do it for for the other sports too,
So like volleyball, they do it going into the I
believe the last set of volleyballs.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
By the way, speaking of ducks, there's two ducks that
fly into the community quack quack motheruh, the community pool
at the place I live.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
At, or black ducks their mallards and they drink the
chlorine pool water.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And I'm just looking at it going there's no way
that's gonna end.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well. Look, that can't be good for soften their stool
up a little bit, you know what I mean? All Right,
they might not consume enough maybe over time.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
And I see some of the the filth and the
scumbags that go into that pool, and I can't imagine
those those ducks are gonna last very long.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't know if the.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Life expectancy is of a duck, but if you're if
you're somebody out there looking to you know, get a
cheap meal, I'd look elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
It's not gonna not gonna go well.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
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your screen. All right, to tag or not to tag?
In the NFL, you got teams that were making moves
(04:40):
and making decisions on the subject yesterday around the league.
All right, First and foremost, Daniel Jones. The Colts are
placing the transition tag on DJ, meaning they can match
any competing offer sheet that Jones may get. If he
gets one, he'll make thirty If he gets none, he'll
make thirty seven point eight million dollars this next year. Right,
(05:03):
So if nobody signed him doing off for sheet, he's
gonna get.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Almost It saves them what's six million?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
He would have been paid forty three ish on the tag,
on the franchise tag.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And it's a good move for him.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
It's a good move for.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Him, but I think it's a good move for the
organization too, even though yeah, we haven't seen this use
since nineteen ninety six. I believe it was what the
Falcons used. It was on Jeff George, Is that right,
something along those lines. But the last time it was used,
there's only thirty teams in the NFL and the Super
Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks, they were playing the AFC, So
(05:38):
it's been a while since we've seen the transition tag
used like this.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I didn't he I never even heard of a transition tag.
So go figure.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
You thought it applied to Jonas, didn't you.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, well he didn't pay up on his his wager,
so that's right. But yes, I would have thought that
it would have been based off.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Man, I don't even know if I can. I don't
know if I can tell this story on the air of.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
This you can, And by the way, that isn't even
I mean, that's that probably makes you not a man
of the people more than anything else. When you lay
a bet the way you did about Tony Romo getting
the TV contract that now, by the way, is so
old that it's completely reversed course where people like don't
want to pay him and don't want to be on
TV anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
So that's that's how old that bet is that you
never paid off.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Yeah, but that that is the ultimate on the right side,
wrong result bet.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
That's the one.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Pete Prisco would be proud of that one because I
said there was no way Tony Romo is getting that money.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And he did.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
But hindsight is in your favor. But still there's a
lot of people out there who wanted to.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
See you, you know, yeah, pay off the bet.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear about it, I want to.
I want to see if you're going to pay it off.
I mean, you know, it's never too late.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
For the for the new audience.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Lorraina, do you have that prediction on Tony Romo's contract
that I made years ago that if this sounds like
it's AI generated, but me gander, they're claiming this is
a real quote from me. Regarding Tony Romo's second contract
with CBS to call games, there were some rumblings at
the time that he was going to get ten million dollars.
(07:16):
As it turns out, what did he get like eighteen
million a year. I think that's what he ended up
getting or something along those lines. But he got paid
and there was a debate about whether or not he
was going to get paid, and there's some you're.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Very adamant he was not going to get paid. I
think over ten million, and by the way, he almost
doubled that.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I think Troy Aikman also thanked him for the money.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Well, everyone's just I mean, you could make the case
for Tom Brady, like even though tom Brady's Tom Brady.
I don't know that that number gets as astronomical if
not for Romo's money, because there there was an element
of looking at what those guys are making, saying, well,
this needs to blow that out of the water. But
if they never jumped from the you know, seven, eight
(08:05):
nine million a year numbers, it.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Never doubles into an eighteen nineteen twenty million a year
whatever they're making.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, well, I don't think we have the sound. I
can't find it. That's all right, that is what it is.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
So someone did away with that.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
No, it's probably.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
They're probably here somewhere.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I looked under Tony, I looked under Romo, I looked
under Jonas Knox, Tony Romo, Tony Romo, Knox, Knox Locks.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
I feel like Iowa Sam always had it. I'm trying
to thank you.
Speaker 8 (08:33):
He did.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
I'm not sure we've got there's another folder that might
be deleted at this point based on you know, recent happening.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Fair point.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Yeah, so so Daniel Jones. He got the transition tag.
So there's that. Trey Hendrickson of the Cincinnati Bengals. He
will not get tagged. There will be no franchise tag
for Trey Hendrickson. He's going to be an unrestricted free agent.
He posted a goodbye message on social media. Hopefully it
(09:03):
just was a little bit different than the driving away
message he posted last year, only to return to camp
in Cincinnati, but roving away he's a goner and most
likely going to end shows a whole lot of trade
in today.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
There'll be a market for Trey Henderson.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
He's going to be a Hall of Famer too. He
got he got banged up last year. But Trey Henderson's
gonna have some options out there. Let's get to the quarterback.
You got got problems, man, What what is the what's
the market looking like for Trey Hendrickson now in his
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thirties early thirties, coming off an injury season. But somebody
who's put up numbers as far as getting to the quarterback.
What do we what do we think about market?
Speaker 7 (09:52):
When he's healthy, he's he's effective.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
The problem is, I'm not sure he ever cashed in
on the big deal he was, you know, looking to
get So does he go the mercenary route where he's
taking it a one year deal at a time to
the highest bidder. Does he try to go to a
place where he feels like he has a chance to
win a Super Bowl? You know, at this stage of
your career, you know, some guys have made enough money.
Some guys want to make more. It's basically one of
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those two decisions. Usually they don't both work hand in hand.
So that's that's how I see it. But I would
think that like Buffalo would be a really interesting fit,
New England would be a very interesting fit, and something
that LaVar talked about. I kind of feel like Trey
Hendrickson probably has a red ass and he wouldn't mind
staying in the AFC and going back up against the Bengals.
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And those are both teams too in Buffalo and New
England that I think they're trying to improve and build
back on that side of the ball, especially with some
edge rushers, and I think he'd be a scheme fit
for both those guys, So that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Do you think that if he does get like if
he signed somewhere else, he'll be shocked to walk in
and go, wow, you guys have like running water like
I'm not used to.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He played. He played somewhere before he went to Senci, Right, you.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Guys have you guys have a practice facility New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
New Orleans. Yeah, I don't. I don't know their facility.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
But well we know the city. We were there last year.
So he went from here, New Orleans to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
There is a market for mister Hendrickson, and he should
be a pretty well sought after guy. I would obviously
make it contingent upon how he he grades out on
his on his physical but in terms of recruitment of
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getting him onto the onto my team and getting him
to the point of where it's like, I'd rather have
to tell Trey Hendrickson, yet, your your physical show this,
it came back. These are red flags. We want to
sign you, but we probably can't give you what it
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is is that you're seeking, but we would love to
have you. I would rather do that than to go
and lead with that or or pass up, pass up
on him altogether. I think if he I think he
still has an upside for at least one to two seasons,
like high upside if if if he can stay healthy
(12:22):
and if if things you know, kind of shake out
the right way with his physical But I would I
would assume that there is a strong market, especially considering
that there isn't a ton of marquee talent that's going
to be set to be free agents this year's cycle.
As Pete Prisco has mentioned in his you know his articles.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Yeah, all right, so somebody else who also got.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Would you guys do it? Would you guys? Would you
guys take it? Like? Do you feel like there would
be a legitimate market on.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Him on a two, two, maybe three year deal?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah? I think so we've made the point. He's the
same age as TJ. Watt if TJ. Watt was available
on the market with people go after him. He's dealt
with inyes too, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (13:08):
He got one punctured Let me think about that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, you get you a dope pass rusher of that caliber.
There's going to be a market for him. The question
is Ken again same thing? And we talked about with
Kyler is within that market. Is Trey Hendrickson going to
look at it and say, there's a premium on my
position and so I want this amount or is he
(13:32):
going to be like, yeah, I get it. You know,
I've dealt with injuries whatever, bla, let me get it
on a play a contract. I'm used to that anyway
with what I've done in since He's so let's let's
let's play it out and see what happens better on yourself.
But then they're going to say you're a year older,
you're a year ahead, like you know, maybe they're not
going to want to do that, but I mean there's
a market for for Trey Hendrickson for certain.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Yeah, and it puts to bed the long drawn out
drama that was his fiasco with Cincinnati over the past
couple of years.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Somebody else who also.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Is not going to be tagged. Maybe this one comes
as a little bit of a surprise. You guys familiar
with the name Kenneth Walker, just one MVP in the
Super Bowl. The Seahawks not going to franchise tag as
he's referred to Kenny Walker by Patrick Sweeka. But he's
going to be an unrestricted free agent. Not a bad
time to hit the market after that run he had
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to close out last year into the postseason in the
super Bowl. But now the Seahawks, you know, we figure
out what the plan is as Kenny Walker is going
to be on his way elsewhere if they don't come
to terms on a deal. So no no tag for
Kenny Walker there.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I mean, I hate to say it, but you know,
running backs in this league, man, it's it's tough sledding
for them. I had these talents that he showcased it,
especially you know, having to be the bell cow two
for the final, you know, the postseason run for a
super Bowl. But the reality is there is always a
number of guys coming to the league that can can
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do your job.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
And that's the tough part, is it.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
It's just it's hard to capitalize nowadays a running back
unless you are one of those guys who's extremely dynamic.
You know, we talked about that with Jamir Gibbs and
David Montgomery. You know, Beijon Robinson, sa kwon like throw
your name in that category unless you're one of those
guys who is a mismatch in the passing game. And
also is that dynamic of the backfield. It's just hard.
(15:27):
And I'm not saying I mean, I think we don't agree.
He's not any of those guys. But he's a damn
good running back and he's capable. He's a capable catcher.
I remember coming out of college when he was at
Michigan State, like that was one of the knocks on him,
as you're gon't catch many footballs, you know, could he
do it? And then he's he showcased the ability to
do it. But it just it feels like, you know,
(15:48):
he hasn't really been the guy who's been highlighted in
that spot.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
He's very capable.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
So I again, I think he'll he'll find a home.
It's just I don't think it's going to be for
a huge deal. And you know, maybe he'll get close
to the tag number as far as his average annual value,
but I can't imagine it's it's gonna be too.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Much above that. He's going to be a seahawk. But
at least they you know, maybe they explained to him
why they don't want to play the tag game with him.
You know, you could easily spin that conversation into a
conversation of respect. So could he be offended. Sure, you
could be offended because you want a new contract, But
(16:27):
could you possibly look at it from the standpoint of,
you know, you just played your heart out. We just
want a championship. And if there's someone out there that
wants to offer you more money, we're not going to
make it a point to, you know, penalize you, you know,
in a way where you could get somewhere, go somewhere else,
(16:48):
make make the money that you might want that might
be more than here. By trying to put the tag
on you and and them having to give us picks,
and it could make it go go wrong. Then you
got to come back and you feel like you weren't
want it. We want you, but this is what we
can pay. And and so I just feel like he's
(17:10):
a likable guy, and I think there's a strong possibility
that he ends up being back with the Seahawks after
this anyway.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
I mean, if he's not, what's their planet running back
Charbona is injured, Yeah, you've got on the roster. Kenny
McIntosh and George Hallani, I don't maybe they just address
it in the draft to Brady's point, Maybe they just
look at and go we'll take our chances with somebody
in the draft and go that direction. But yeah, he's
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a thirty one old for running back. That's super old,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, I mean I think most organizations would say that's
old for any player.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Any player. Yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
What's think about it?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Like, guys are they usually their contracts because and the
teams will do it this way, those guarantees run out
with that second contract around twenty and they make that
decision headed into thirty.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, you know, he's most likely, he's the most I mean,
do you think that maybe they're going to go after briefs?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, no, he got he got tagged.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
He got tagged.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, he was next up on the tag or not
to tag.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Uh, he got to catch his tag.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
So he's gonna make a little over fourteen next year
and uh probably thrilled about the idea of sticking around
in New York.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
But the Jets, there's there's really no other etn Like
that's there's really no other running back. JK. Dobbins is
going to potentially I think he's going. Is he going
to be available? I think he'll be. He'll be He's
an interesting back that if he you know, if he
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performs up to to standard, you know, he just never
really got going in the two stops that he's been
that thus far, like all the way. But I don't know, man,
it seems like a risky, a risky move on Seattle's
part because their running game was such a major part
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of what they have going on.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Let me ask you as this as longtime football fans,
because I feel this way, does it kind of bum
you out that the running back position is where it's
at that it's almost.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
The most prestigious, It was the most prestigious outside of
the quarterback, that.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Was the star position outside of quarterback.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah. Absolutely, And it's just man, and some would say
they were like right there, like neck and neck. Like
if you think about the historical you know, names that
are connected to our game, you know, I bet you
there's more people that know about historical running backs than
they do quarterbacks. I mean, if we're being honest, like
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you go back to the days, I don't know about that.
Oh yeah, oh yeah. Name a bigger quarterback name and
the Jim Brown era, there is none. There is none.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
I'd say, what why is his name?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Escape I'm seeing right now because because it ain't it ain't.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Well, I don't have to think of the years he
was there, but like Johnny Unitas was a pretty big
deal back then, Darren Starr not even close to Jim Brown.
I mean, that's your opinion. There's people who might not
feel that way, like I'm not. Like, like, Jim Brown
was obviously a monumental figure for a lot of reasons.
(20:30):
It wasn't just what he did in the field, though,
you know, his acting is push for civil rights like
he was. He was one of those athletes that transcended
just being an athlete. So I think that's He's an
interesting one to bring up. But I do think there's
a lot of other really really well known like quarterbacks.
I mean, and I know the league wasn't always about quarterbacks,
(20:51):
but it's still they're still kind of looked at it
that way. And you could call me biased for saying it,
but I would say at a at a certain point
in time, there's no doubt they're much more even I
don't It hasn't been viewed that way for a long time,
and I'm not sure it ever will go back now
the way the game is, especially people pushing seven on
seven in flag you.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Know, well that's it's a quarterback. It is all the
way quarterback. Now it's not even close. But in those
days at one hundred percent was the running back. Again.
I know we had the debate on on how many
times the percentage of throwing the ball, but keep in
mind the only time that we were at fifty percent
(21:32):
fifty to fifty for running the ball was like in
the nineteen forties. The percentage has always been higher to
throw the ball. But the importance look it up on
your spare time, the yeah look it up that time
right now?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yeah important, We got ai buddy. This stuff happens fast.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, go ahead check it out ya way moment. The
bottom line here is that the game was driven by backs.
That's why you're called a quarter back. It was running
like quarterbacks were backs. So you had half backs, you
had full backs, you had you had, you had quarterbacks.
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So it was a it was a game of triple options.
It was a games of you know, student body left,
stutent body rights. It was all about running. The game
was truly built off of the trenches and the runners.
It wasn't the ball was shaped differently. It wasn't about
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throwing the ball. It was about handing it off, pitching it,
and running it. So there was a time where the
back who carried and ran the ball was the most
critical and important piece to the offense in football. And
so it just is what it is, and it has
evolved and has continued to evolve, and people love seeing
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the deep ball being thrown and people running catch it
and do those things. That's what turned into the entertainment
value of it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
How far back do you want to go as far
as the run pass split percentages in the NFL or
with NFL franchise, I should say, obviously, you know the.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
NFL far We we got to get to break and
we tease it.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Come on, let's go to break.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Yeah, we'll get to break and let's go to bread.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Let me let me, let me tease it this way,
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we at on the rush to pass ratio historically in
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the NFL from nearly one hundred years ago?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yeah, I was just saying, it's obviously not favorable to
Levar's point if you go too far back, like the
nineteen thirties to the really the fifties, it was heavily
slanted towards run. Really, like almost twenty five to thirty
percent of plays we're only passed. Things didn't change until
there's an AFL influence in the league. Mean because the AFL.
(25:32):
I don't even know if you're talking.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I said, what do you mean? I said, what do
you mean? That doesn't go to my point? That's exactly
what I said. Actually, I said, did you.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Just say passing became has always been part of the league.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
No, you said passing was always a part of the league.
I just gave you a whole explanation about running the ball. Yes,
in the early night.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
But Missard me, then I think you're on a delay man,
because it's it's hard to hit out.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Am I on a delay? I mean, I feel like
I'm I'm speaking.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Clear well anyway, historically, I'm not sure what you're trying
to say then, because one of the reason why I
looked this up is it sounded like you made a
case that running has always been up there. But anyway,
thirties to fifties heavily run oriented. It wasn't until the
AFL influence came into the league. You obviously had different
rules that were brought in which when were favorable to
wide receivers, in particular in nineteen seventy eight, that's when
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things became more balanced. So really around that time, you
would say, late seventies into the eighties, it's pretty much
been a fifty to fifty, if not more so, pass
heavy as opposed to run. And now obviously we're getting
to a point where teams are passing the football in
some rates, like the twenty fifteen Dolphins sixty three percent
(26:45):
of the time the twenty thirteen Falcon sixty seven percent
of the time. So depending on which team you picked,
the splits are not as even as they once were,
which again goes back to our conversation about running backs. Unfortunately,
there's not valued as much as they used to be,
and the leagues kind of made a shift where quarterbacks
have been more the center and the focal point of
most offenses.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, I think the point that I was making was
based off of yesterday saying that you know, the percentage
of run versus pass had you know. The debate of
it was that this was at some point a balanced
league and it's never really like you can't say it's
(27:27):
we talked about. The debate came from the past first
mentality versus the run first mentality, and my contention was
just because you have a higher percentage of past doesn't
mean you can't be a run first team. That's where
the whole debate came from. So then the point that I.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Would say, if you're run first, that that's what you're
always looking to do first.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yes, but that doesn't mean that you're going to do
it at a higher percentage than past. Is the point
that I was making.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
That doesn't make any sense to me, Like that I
always say you're not a run first team.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It makes a ton of sense because you could run
the ball first, but you it doesn't necessarily mean that
you're going to run the ball more. You can run.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I always think I think we're defining it. I think
we're defining it two different ways.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Okay, all right, Well, I'm just saying for me, the
way I look at it, you can just because the
percentage is not the same, which goes all the way back.
The percentage of pass has always been pretty much higher
since the nineteen forties, like in nineteen what nineteen, In
the nineteen forties it was close to fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
If it was not if it hasn't close to fifty
to fifty until like you get into really the the
up into the seventies. Really, there were some moments in
the sixties when the AFL got involved, where like the
Broncos back then threw a bunch in nineteen sixty one.
But that's kind of it.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It's pretty much still more pass it's still more passed. Yes,
the percent of passing the ball is higher. I mean,
you're laughing, but I don't. I don't because I the stats.
I literally just looked all this up. Okay, So you're
the only one that can look things up. I got it. Okay,
Well let's move on. Let's move on, because at the
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end of the day, the percentage of pass outside of
the early days of football in the early nineteen hundreds,
like mid nineteen twenties, nineteen thirties, forties or whatever it
was run. It was like, I'm trying to help you out.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I'm trying to educate you on why passing became more
of a thing in nineteen seventy eight because of some
of the league rules changes. It's why passing has become
more of a thing now because the protection for receivers.
Do running backs get those same protections. No, So you
can take more aggressive risks and take more chances down
the field because they're not getting hit like they used to.
So it's maybe easier to pass a throw under those
(29:54):
windows or even get penalties for some of that now.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
So my mentality, the mental agreeing with what that is.
I agree. I agree with the rule changes, I agree
with the approach of it is one hundred percent a
pass first league now. But even with that being said,
when it was a run first game, that the percentages
(30:17):
of passing have still been higher than the run they've
thrown the ball more than they've ran the ball. Even
being a run first team a run first league. That's that.
That was the only point that I'm making, Like I'm
not making any ulterior you know, points or anything like that.
My focus was to the conversation. You could still be
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a run first team and not have higher percentages of run.
That would be a run dominant team, not a run
first team. If I'm going to lead off with the run,
I want to run the ball, I want to establish
the run. It does not mean that I am I'm
going to run the ball more than I'm throwing the ball.
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It just means that's what I want.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
And that's your opinion, because that's a terrible offensive mind plan,
game plan, because no one's going to supper and say
we're just gonna run on first down every time, right, No,
that's why I'm saying, your definition, that's implication. Then how
I look at it, You're you're implying that that's what
I meant by you're going to just run on first
down every time.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
That's that's an implication.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Because if you're run first every time, then that's the
first thing you're trying to accomplish.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
And that's the first thing you're gonna do most often.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
So all right, So, assuming the Jets are a run
first team, who's playing quarterback next year? Because we know
Breese Hall got the tag? Anybody got any guesses? Is
who's going to be the quarterback for the New York
Jets next year? Because I'm gonna I got one, not
justin fields, I'll go I'll throw the first.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Can I ask this?
Speaker 4 (31:47):
If you're brits Hall, though, do you want to sign
a long term deal? I know this obviously buys time
for them because they're deadlines later on the summer. Now,
if you're Brits Hall, though, are you kind of okay
like letting this thing play itself out so you can
maybe have more clarity on that question, like who's my quarterback?
Where's this organization going? Can I get to free agency
where I might be valued somewhere else? This is probably
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one of those few instances where like, unless you get
offered a absolute bag and a huge contract, there might
be some consideration of being like, I just want to
keep trying to push to get the free agency.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yes, you want to push to get the free agency,
but if it's about getting the bag, if you can
get the bag and the jet with the Jets, you
get that.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
I just said that.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, so no, I don't. I don't
think you wait to see it play out if you
can get the bag right now, the more things play
out waiting to see you Okay, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Look, there's a deadline in the summer.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
At that point in time, the Jets will have to
make their best final offer. If that number is not
I don't know, three two years of guarantees maybe plus
more than you know, plus whatever that is in the
franchise tag. Right, so obviously you're going to factor in
this year's guaranteed contract that's the floor for your negotiations.
Then you do one hundred and twenty percent of that
because that's where the second year under the tag would be.
(33:04):
That should be the baseline of guarantees that's offered to
bres Hall, if not more. If he's not offered more
than that, If i'm him, I play under the tag,
and then I sit there and say I want to
get the free agency and I'm pretty sure they're not
going to tag him again. Most teams don't for a
running back a second time. But that also gives you
great clarity and seeing what they do this year and
(33:26):
what the organization is looking to do and what they
look like. So that would be the most sensible way
of handling.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I think.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Also, if you're the Jets, why would you commit long
term to a running back? You're awful, They're nowhere close
to competing anywhere, Like they signed Sauce Gardner to a
deal and traded him, Like they're the Quinn Williams. They're
nowhere close to competing. So why would you invest long
term in a running back when you don't even know
who's going to be throwing the football? It will feel
(33:53):
like the forties again, like they.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Didn't you just hear what we just debated. You better
find a high price receiver and quarterback that Tay got
Garret will Yeah, you need more. You need more than
just Garrett Wilson, So you better. You better be focused
in on playmakers on the outside and who's throwing the ball.
Those are the two things, and protecting that if it's
(34:16):
if we're talking focus on offense, that's your first focus
has to be who's going to be your quarterback or
who's going to protect your quarterback? If I can get
a better person or a few that can protect the
quarterback better versus going after a quarterback. I'll take my
I'll take my chances. We're building up my front and
address the quarterback position at a later time when it's
(34:39):
more favorable. Considering that, you're probably still going to be
trash as a team moving forward, but at least you'll
be better up front, and that's in better position to
put a quarterback in that in that situation. That's what
I would say.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
You know what's interesting about that, because I agree with you,
is is Peter stro Route.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Oh god, Quinn agree? Okay, go ahead, I'm sorry. I
know I've gotten brother today.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
We're gonna break.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
We'll be back. No, no, no, don't come on, finish
your point.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I just you know, I'm just glad he got to
act down, do his thing and think.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
Just a sensitive dude.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Man.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
You can never have a conversation with LeVar because he's
so sensitive.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I mean, Ralph Tresment, you know, man with sensitivities, a
man like me.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
It is two pros and a cup of joe.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn Jonas knocks.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
With you up next we are going to have.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Another edition of our midweek awards, the Good, the Bad,
the Ugly right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Coming out top of next hour.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
A little over ten minutes from now, we are going
to catch up with our guy, the old p Petris Papadakis.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
That'll be yours right here on FSR. You'll be able
to listen to that.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
As always on the iHeartRadio app on hundreds of affiliates
as well too.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
But right now it is time for a Wednesday tradition
here on the show. It's time for this.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Of course, there are some good things that happen, and
there's some bad, and then there's some downright ugly things.
It's time for good, bad and ugly and.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
For that to find out what responsibilities we have this week,
we turn it over to the respected Sheriff SWEEKA sheriff.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Well, howdy, it's all right.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Well I keep it together, Patty. If you're gonna go
full bit, you gotta go full bit all the way.
Speaker 8 (36:53):
No, you're right, you're right, My bad, sheriff, my bad.
All right, it's Tom for the good and the bad.
You ugly brothers will and round them up. It's time
we have are good and share of far. Well, brother,
you're the good. Let's hear it.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Are good for the week. And sports. I mean, I
really been enjoying this, this whole NBA type of deal.
I mean, I'm trying to get into baseball, so you
got the whole the.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Oh yeah, that the league's getting.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Going the peat what is the Peach League and the
what what are they called the the Orange the Orange League,
the Watermelon League. So yeah, baseball is is getting back
into it. But you know, basketball is heating up. So
I'm just I'm just happy to be a sports fan
that gets to look at other sports outside of outside
(37:46):
of football. Right now, That's what I'll say. My good
for the week is my my Fubo and my my
YouTube TV has had multiple different sports going throughout the
course of the day. So there you go, all right,
I like it.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
I like well, up next with the bed we have
Sheriff Quinn. Let's hear yours.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
I hate to say this one, and I'm not sure
how many people saw it, but Shane Lowry at the
Cognizant Classic up in Palm.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Beaches this week. I believe it's his home.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Course, and he had a three stroke lead on the
field heading into whole number sixteen.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
It's only three holes to.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Play, and he went back to back double bogies in
what was called the famous bear Trap. That's one of
the harder, you know, three holes you had to play
to kind of finish out a course, and unfortunately blew
the lead and just hearing hearing hear him talk about
it afterwards and how he just wanted to have that
moment with his child up, you know, greeting him at
(38:45):
the eighteenth gree and after he went, how disappointing that
was for him. It was kind of heart wrenching, but
it was. It was definitely bad. It was a tough
moment to watch for anny golf fans.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
Who saw it.
Speaker 8 (38:54):
All right, well, how about there for them golfers. And
finally we have our uggle in this Sheriff Knox let's
wrap it up with they.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Well, we go back to about a year ago, twenty
twenty five. March of twenty twenty five, Jerkson Profar of
the Atlanta Braves, he got suspended for eighty games because
he pissed hot was on the gas with something called
human choreonic gano dopatrin or something like that. It's basically
(39:26):
a hormone typically made during pregnancy that can encourage testosterone production.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Right.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
So, now, after that suspension, jerks and Profar said the
following quote, it is because of my deep love and
respect for the game that I would never knowingly do
anything to cheat. He was surprised. The Braves said they
were surprised and extremely disappointed.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
So he figured out the guy's learned this lesson not
pissed hot again.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Jerks and Profar now suspended for the entire season. He
gets popped once again for testing positive for a performance
enhancing drug for the second time in Major League Baseball
eighty games. The first time one sixty two. The second.
I believe a lifetime ban. At the third or the fourth,
whatever it is, a guy can't keep away from the gas.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
So that's my ugly for the week.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Jackson profar, which, by the way, it's also the sixth
time since Major League Baseball got real strict with their
with their testing that a player has been suspended for
the entire season. So even though all that discussion about,
you know, we're gonna get out of the sport and
get rid of all that stuff, guys are still trying
to cut corners and there's probably still guys out there
(40:31):
that just aren't getting confident or doing it.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
He's ineligible now for the World Baseball Classic too, which
apparently he was representing that the Netherlands, So that's unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Really yeah, wow, who knew.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Also, the Braves, they've already lost Spencer Schwellenbach and Hurston Waltrip,
two pitchers who had elbow injuries.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
So tough offseasons, so far off the Braves.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Yeah, but the World Baseball Classics coming up.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That love the WBC.
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