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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let's get this, punies, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
You ever get a migraine?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Jonas, It ain't your grain, it ain't his grain.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
This migrain. Oh gosh, all right.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Uh No, I don't believe so.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
If you were arms length away from me right now,
I might have slapped you in your face doing that
because this hurts. It hurts bad. You just may fun
U thirteenth Warrior on the right side of my head
and my face.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
No, remember you remember when us You remember when uh
with Sports Center back of the day. Remember ar vetas
a bonus, the guy who played for the Trailblazers. Yeah,
they used to do when they would do his highlights,
they go, he's not your vetus. He's not my vetus,
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he's our vetas.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
So that's what it.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Made me think of.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
But I've never had, never had a migraine. I do
remember the the It was a Terrell Davis who had
the migraine in the Super Bowl and he couldn't see
and they're like, just run into the line of scrimmage.
We're gonna do a play action here. When the Broncos
beat the Packers and the Super Bowl, I've heard.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
This once for Chom. I heard their brutal though.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Hey man, this is this Tyler Lorraina. This one wants
to be so bad. But it's tolerable because I know
what's so bad is like if it was so bad,
you'd be telling the people like, yeah, we let LeVar go.
He had to go jump in a fetal position, put
ice on his on his face, and sit in a
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dark room. I'm tolerating it because I can you know,
I can tell the medicine is holding it in check.
But it's like literally a war going on in my
head right now, Like.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
It's got to be football related, right like did you
have this as a kid?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Did you have this before you started up?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You know, it's crazy. First of all I hit hard
as f as a kid. So and and when you
know I was taught, you know, I was taught how
to make contact and you use your head. Now, the
phenomenon of what what happens with me with my my
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headaches is I only get them on the right side
of my head, like that's it. That's the only place
that I get my grains is over my eye and
on my right temple, like that's it. In my jaw,
it like for some reason, it gets into my jaw.
It's like it just takes all the muscles in and
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around the right side of my face. And it's like
a boa constrictor. If I could explain it, like that
would be the best way of which how can you say,
you know what that feels like? And I've never been
squeezed by a boa constrictor, and I'm sure nobody else
listening probably has been, But it just feels like something
constricting you so bad, NonStop on the right side of
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my face. I've never gotten a headache on the left
side of my face, Jonas, But I always use my
right side to hit more often than than not. So
I don't know, because if you think about it, when
I say use my right side. It's not like you
can like I didn't turn my head and make contact
with people with the right side of my head. I
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made contact with my face and it was my right
shoulder that I was using more often than not. Anyway,
long story short, When I went and did like all
of my you know, post post evaluations and stuff for
the league. And this was before CTE by the way, right,
I go and I do my my line of duty,
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you know, physicals and stuff like that, they told me,
Jonas Knox that they could not scientifically or medically say
that football was the reason why I was getting these
these like extreme migraines on the right side of my head.
They couldn't They couldn't give me a medical reason as
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to if it was connected to me playing football. It's
so I'm not a blamer either, you know what I mean.
So I mean I'm not a blamer. I don't sit
there and I'm like, oh no, you know football gave
me migraines.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
How much dental work? How much dental work have you
had on that side, like if you had root canals
or any sort of tooth issues on that side. Because
I grocked it, and they said you know, potentially there's
you know, could be some dental stuff going on on
that side.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No, no, yeah, it's not that. I don't have any
anything going on in that region of my mouth other
than molars, you know. So no, I don't have any
work there. I don't even have. I told you I'm
going back to go get a gold crown to match
the other gold crown I have on the lower part.
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But it's not my lower part so much. It's the
upper part, you know, like the upper part of my
job would be, and my face and my temple, you know,
just my eye. But no, I don't think it's dental.
I've done enough. I've done a ton of like, bro,
like the extremeness of the I was telling Lorraina, she
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you know, she said she gets kaleidoscope vision, which I've
had that. But when I was in college and I
would catch them, my arm would disappear. I couldn't see
my arm, like my vision would actually go away. Wait
what I could, Bro, I'm telling you, I got some
really extreme migraines where it like totally altered, like I
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thought I was out of here a couple times, Like
I called my parents said, listen, I love y'all. You know,
I don't know if this is the end, but this
migraine hurts so bad. And they back then, they weren't
really medicating me, like they would give me like these
these nostril, these nasal nasal spray deals, you know, and
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they if I didn't use it quick enough, it once
it took, it didn't matter. So they used to have
shots that would work. But I don't think they took
me seriously. This funny, interesting trivia. Joe thought I was
trying to wear a visor to be cool when I
played at Penn State, right like, I used to wear
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a visor. They made me take the dark visor off
for games because it wasn't legal. But if you were
called in in the pros, there was there was a
time where I had a dark visor and I was
actually clear to wear a visor. It was not for
a look. It was because I was getting migrains that
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were so bad that the light, like if I had
light my eyes, I couldn't function. So I wore a visor,
you know, because the light light made it really you know,
made it sensitive for me. So anyway, it's interesting trivia.
I wasn't trying to be like a diva or anything
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wearing advisor on the football field. It was because literally
health reasons why I was trying to keep you know,
the sunlight and stuff out of liked it and hit
my eyes because it's like the symptoms were bad. Anything
that would trigger it and make it go. Like one
time I got hit Tim Biakabatuca hit me. It was
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like a concussion, but it triggered a migraine. I had
to go sit in in total darkness for an entire
first half of a game and then came back and
played in the second half, made a play. We ended
up winning the game because I made to play, took
the interception for a touchdown. That di rest was history.
We won the game. Well, went on a four game,
five game winning streak.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I mean, I do know this one place you know
where there's not going to be collisions like that is
in the Olympics when it comes to flag football. Why well,
now and now we are going to get to see
potentially some NFL player players be a part of it.
They voted on it yesterday at the owner's meetings, and
Roger Goodell discussed the fact that it was a unanimous
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yes to allowing and opening the door to allowing NFL
players to participate in lag football at the Olympics. Here
in twenty twenty eight, here was the commission.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I think this is news, represents a great opportunity for
the sport, for the NFL, It's truly the next step
in making NFL football and football a global sport for
men and women of all ages and all opportunities across
the globe. We think that's the right thing to do,
and this is a big step in accomplishing that. For
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our players, we think it's a tremendous opportunity for them
to represent their country, to compete for a gold medal,
which is a pinnacle of global sports. It's something that
I think all professional athletes, and we have two here
today that'll speak to this that across many different sports,
the opportunity to play for your country and to win
a gold medal or any medal is a wonderful and
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an honor to be able to do so.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I like the fact.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Do you think there would be fallout if they said no,
we don't want you, well, don't want our players to
do that?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Well, I wondered, So what I guess I was a
little bit surprised by is the fact that it was
unanimously voted thirty two. Nothing like, yeah, we'll let our
players participate, because I could understand an owner being like, man,
we're paying all these guys all this money, Like there's
no just because it's non contact doesn't mean there's not
going to be injuries, like a guy could turn left,
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turn right, you know, and trying to ass it. Yeah,
and now you know, my multi million dollar investment is
down the drain and he can't participate in the season.
And there's they still need to figure out logistically how
this could work because it's going to the Olympics. You know,
if it's in the first week, it would still allow
them time to report to camp at that point, but
if it's in the second week, it might cut into
their training camp time with their team. So there's still
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things that they've got to sort through. So I was
a little surprised that owners didn't have more pushback and
it was unanimously voted yes. But I also look at
it and I go just from an Olympic stamp and
I'll be honest, no offense probably sixty percent of the
events at the Olympics I couldn't care less about at
all whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
We care about Will you care about flag?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yes, and especially if you know and like Justin Jefferson
wants to be a part of it, Tyreek Hill, like
these are recognizable names, like a lot of a lot
of Olympic athletes. You may not know big picture because
some of those sports don't get the coverage that the
Big four get, you know, NFL, College Football, NBA, Major
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League Baseball, NHL. They don't get the coverage of those
sports get. So when you get to see them, you're
kind of like, oh, you start to get to know
these athletes during a two week window. But if you know,
going into it, oh, Tyreek Hills on the US flag
football team, I want to see that.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I would love to see it.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
And so you're bringing recognizable names to the Olympics, and
I actually think it does a lot more for the
Olympics maybe than it does for the NFL, to be
honest with you.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I mean, is this safe to say The reason why
it's not break dancing, it's it's flag football that's the
sport of choice for the Olympics coming to America is
because of the influence of the NFL. Would that be
safe to say? Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Would it be safe to say that this whole tremendously
large movement and campaign of flag football, of women in
flag football, women in football, based off of flag football,
that push, and and that that exposure and marketing to
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the masses is generated from the National Football League. Would
we say that that's that's accurate. Yeah, if that is
the case, if that is truly indeed the case, and
you follow the money, you always got to follow the money.
How much money, how many resources are being dedicated to
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the buildout and the growth of flag football. And I
made this point every single time we brought up flag
football during our conversations that in order to combat what
I just talked about, which is the irony of me
talking about my headache, in order to combat all of
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the fallout all of the fear moms are scared to
allow their kids to play football tackle football. I would
say probably moms more so than dads, even though a
lot of dads don't want their kids playing football until
they get older. You know, based off of them looking
at what they believe the studies to be and the
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brain developing and all those things. Flag football has been
what I believe the sport that they you know, people
have settled in on football enthusiasts have settled in on
as a happy medium. So it's almost like this is
the training wheels before you take the training wheels off
of the bike and the kids under stand how football
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works and the mechanics of it plays different things, the
functionality of football before you get into the contact and
the physical aspects of the sport itself. And if that's
what you're doing, if you're championing flag football as a
starting starting point for youth, but also as a competitive
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sport for women, right a competitive aspect for older people,
older generations because older people play flag football as well,
then it almost to me would be counterproductive. It totally
undercuts it. It totally waters down what you have represented
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in trying to turn the sport, the game of flag
football into a respected not only nationally but international game
to play. It's much cheaper to fild a flag football
team than it is to field a tackle football team.
The resources needed are very different. So if you're trying
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to expand the sport of football, and flag football is
one of the avenues that you're using to spread that
message and spread that word. Even though it is not
tackle football, it still is a version of football, and
if it's being supported, which it is being supported and
financed by NFL, the NFL in a large part, then
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you have no choice in this situation. Really, the fallout
I think would be crazy that I think the impact
of the owners voting no would be amazing, the amount
of scrutiny that they would open themselves up to if
they did not vote yes for guys to be able
to compete for a medal playing flag football. It's like,
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how hypocritical would that be to not allow the players
to have the opportunity to compete for a gold medal
playing flag football. So I think that there wasn't very
much of an opportunity or or a chance for the
owners to actually vote no against this anyway.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I wonder at one point, because like you do have
varying degrees of interest, Like Justin Jefferson, as we mentioned,
he said, you know, would love an opportunity to compete
for the gold, et cetera. Then you've got aj Brown
who was like, I'm not interested. You know, I need
to get ready for the season. You've got you know,
people the organizers of flag football have said, look, there
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is going to be hopefully some NFL players involved in this,
but there are specialists in flag football that have been
groomed for this opportunity, and so you're going to have
a mixture of that along with some NFL players. But
I do wonder at one point, is an NFL player,
you know, going to get frustrated about something that happens
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in the game and just lower his shoulder just to
send a message, you know. Okay, all right, so let
us show you what the real football looks like. And
I do wonder what that sort of dynamic is going
to be.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
But it's gonna be sick. It would be sick if
there was a team somewhere around the world that their
soul expertise is playing flag football and they were actually
able to beat Americans, that as would be wild. Could
you imagine if you're like, yeah, there's somewhere in a
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region where a basketball team could actually beat the USA
in basketball, Like you'd be like, dang, like seems improbable.
But you know, now it's more believable to think. You
know so many international players. But I'll say this, bruh,
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there are if you look at the names that are
out there, like, I'll say this, you better be happy
that Hawaii is considered a US state. It's one of
the states. You better be happy that that Samoans and
Tonguans and Polynesians are considered Americans. You better be happy
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about that. You gotta be concerned about Africans. I'm just
being honest. You gotta be concerned about Africans. There would
be a place, and I would tell you, I'm gonna
give you another one.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Imagine that gold medal game and the Sudan is a
ten point favorite over the US.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That would be the Sudan. It would be Nigeria, actually
it would be Nigerians. But what would be crazy. I'll
tell you what would be crazy is they play some
hell of five flag football in Mexico. Bro Mexicans know
how to play some flag football. It would just be
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wold if you saw but within the rules that you're
able to utilize that there was actually a team that's
so there. It's like probably a club team out there
that that's all they do. Jonas, I mean like, it's
it's feasible to think that a team could, I guess
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strategically be good enough to be able to beat an
American All Star team of NFL professionals brought together.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I mean it is a different game.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
It's different.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, it's not different. So there is that.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
I mean, there is going to have to be some
guys that have specialized in flag football that are going
to be part of it, and they might end up
being the best players.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Like they're not going to be this they might end
up being the best players, but strategically speaking, within the
parameters of what flag football represents, they might have a
more competitive advantage over anybody else.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I mean, by the way you you mentioned Mexico, this
does open up the door to, uh, you know, reignite
another rivalry in a different sport, because the Mexican US
soccer team rivalry is a real deal. And uh, the
Mexican fans have been known to you know, urinate in
bottles and throw it at the American players if they
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get close.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
So I'm not saying, well, for.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
What it's worth, don't make that a Mexican thing, because
that has happened with American players too.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
But I would encourage that, I just I would encourage
opposing fans maybe not to take that approach because these
are NFL players you're dealing with from time to two.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
What does that mean, Well, you know it was malice.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Maybe maybe they might find them way their way up
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We talked earlier in the show about the international schedule.
The NFL is hoping to get to sixteen games in
a season internationally, that, according to Roger Goodell, sooner rather
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than later. Joe Burrow, the quarterback of the Cincinnati Bengals,
he spoke about his interest in wanting to play internationally,
and he also spoke about the reasoning behind his saying
yes to appearing on the Netflix show The Quarterback Coming Up.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Caught me on the right day.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I guess I know.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I think it's going to be I think it's gonna
be good entertainment, not necessarily the season that I wanted
to have in that spotlight, But you know, I think
a big part was Peyton being involved.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
In it too.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
You know, I have a lot of respect for him obviously,
and what he did does is as a person. So
that guy reaches out to you and asks you to
do something, then you know, most of the time I'm
going to say, yeah, only positive things could could come
out of it. You know, he's going to protect, protect me,
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protect our team, protect an organization. And I have trust
in him for saying that, and trust that he's going
to do that, so I would probably wouldn't have done
it if he if he wasn't involved, I have a
lot of trust and faith in him to not do
anything that would that would hurt me or the team.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
So if Peyton Manning's behind it, he could, he could talk.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
He had to do it. Basically, it sound logic and
it's and it's reasonable what he what he's saying is
very reasonable. And again, why would Peyton Manning do anything
that would disqualify him from having the access that he
has right now? There's no reason to do that. There's
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no storyline worth chasing that would put him or Omaha
Productions into that type of scenario where they like, if
you're doing a situation where an organization or player that's
on your show has to do damage control, imagine how
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many times worse it is for damage control for your
production house. And while somebody may argue and say, nuh,
it's great for business. You know, controversy sells this, that
and the other. Da da da da da da YadA
ya da da and reality television, yes, that is true.
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Conflict sales, problems sell drama sells like So take for instance,
what took place at Joe Burrow's house. Right, that would
be tremendous reality television content to get the behind the scenes,
the behind us imagine if the quarterback showed what really happened, right,
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But if they do, which they probably would have, just
so everybody's clear, they're not going to not do it.
But I think that what you're hearing in that SoundBite
is understanding that Peyton Manning does have the perspective of
being a top quarterback at the highest level, and that
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he is very aware of what public persona represents, you know,
the whole idea of what your brand represents. And I
don't think that he would do anything to bring any
harm or reproach on your name. And so to me,
I look at it like this, it's a win situation.
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You know, it's one hundred percent accurate to say, how
can you have a loss in doing something on the
level that this show is on and opens you up
to such a large amount of people. You know, you
can expand the pool of people that you fall into
in terms of being an influence to or even just
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being recognized and noticed by. So now you open yourself
up to more opportunities for branding opportunities, branding deals. I
think it's an excellent way of building and growing your
brand if there's something else that you do. It doesn't
have to just be football centric. You can leverage these
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things in a day and age where now in college
nil such a big thing. It's all connected to brand value,
brand build out. It ends up being you in the
National Football League. You still can leverage and still should
be thinking build your brand, build it strong, build the
value so that you can monetize that brand and build
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what it is that you're doing outside of the parameters
of football.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
All right, let me ask you a question, because I
can I understand the idea of wanting to build your brand.
If you know, if you're a player, you want to
build your brand. You want to you know, get your
name out there more all everything that comes along with it.
Do you really have to do that if you're quarterback?
Which is why I've always thought it would be fascinating
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if they did something on offensive linemen or they did
something on another position group that maybe doesn't get the
attention that that the quarterback does. But I look at
Joe Burrow, I look at Jared Goff, I look at
Kirk Cousins and I'm like, you're already name brands, and
what it like, what does this do for you that
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you don't already have. You've already got a couple hundred
million dollars in the bank, You've got the notoriety, you've
got the fame, you're successful, you could potentially be a
Hall of Famer at the end of this whole thing.
What does this do for you? And if you're Joe
Burrow and all of a sudden they chronicle, you know,
the break in at your house that you pointed out,
are they you know whether or not your assistant really
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was your assistant?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
And who knows?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I mean, that's a not a bad looking assistant to have,
if you're going to have one, I guess. But at
what point is it too much? Like listen, man, Like
I play football, I'm a name brand. I kind of
want my privacy. And it just feels like you're opening
the door to everybody having even more information and more
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intel about you who you are as a person, and
it kind of breaks down the wall of separating what
you do professionally and your personal And so I just wonder, like,
why the appeal to some of these.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Things that exists because of social media now anyway, it
is prevalent and it exists in terms of the opportunities
that people have to put things out there on you
that apply to you, and it is a little bit
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scary because it's kind of outside of your control. What
I would say to what you're saying is is take
advantage of where where you are. Take advantage of the
fact that you are quarterback. Take advantage of the fact
that you are a known quarterback and you don't even
have to be known. I tell people that aren't even known,
you could be more influential and set yourself up to
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make just as much money, if not more than the
people that are the starters or are the popular guys.
And it goes to the point of what you're asking
the question about. Let me ask you this. Here's a
counter question to prove the point. Do you know if
Joe Burrow, you know, is into a cause? What what
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drives him? What? What is the charity that Joe Burrow?
You know what he supports? Do you know? Do you know? No?
I don't, Okay, do you know what deodor in he uses?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
So this is to promote whether or not he used.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Just I'm gonna just walk you through. I'm gonna walk
you through the exercise, right, Do you know what type
of deodor and he uses or any type of like
body washes, anything that he uses to take care of himself,
grooming wise, his razors, is his haircare products? Do you
know any of those things?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
No, I don't want to. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Okay, but you don't know, and you don't care because
you don't know. So therefore, if you don't know, you
generally aren't going to care. Right, But say, for instance,
like you've had, like just think about anything that you
may have gone through with family issues that mean the
most to you. Do those issues that you've dealt with
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with your family and what it's had impact wise on
your family? Do you care about that? Would you care
about that? Well? Yes, my family exactly. So if that
gap is bridged between an athlete and a fan that
doesn't generally care unless it's something that is relevant to them,
then it doesn't matter. So if say, for instance, you
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know somebody was abused in your family and this campaign
is wrapped around the very thing that you've experienced and
had to deal with emotions and feelings about, if that's
framed up the right way and Joe Burrow is the
one that's talking about it. Like on his days off,
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he goes to a shelter, he assists moms that are
with children and he helps them do this. I'll give
you a great example a Tim Tebow, Like if we
didn't know he was going to foreign countries to talk
to people and going to jails to talk to people
into jail houses, and his connection with you know, his
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belief in God and what that represents and how that
plays a part in his life. That man is the
perfect poster child and an example of how you can
take your brand and build the brand of your value
and it could even exceed having one of the greatest
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college football careers that has ever taken place in the game.
His faith and what he represents morality wise outweighs the
fact that he won national titles and won the Heisman
that has endured the test of time. He has remained
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relevant because he's done something that most athletes fail to do,
which is take the time when you are a known
commodity or within a known commodity situation. I played at
Penn State, known commodity. Did you know who LeVar was?
Maybe you did? Maybe you did it? But I have
the ability to leverage the known commodities that I'm representing.
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That's the difference, Jonas. When a player represents a known commodity,
the team they played for, the university they played for,
the city they played for, the community they played for.
All of those entities have the ability to benefit from
the brand of the athletes that represent them. But the
athlete themselves never really understand the power and the opportunity
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that exists for them to add their name to the
list of of those those entities that are benefiting from
you being an asset so branding and understanding branding, doing
a show like the QB Show. Having that exposure, you
now put yourself in a situation where your brand alone
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can be beneficial and can be monetized. Just like the
franchise that they don't pay you all that money just
to win games, Jonas, they pay you all that money
because of how leverageable you are and your brand is
within the ecosystem of what they created.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Well, listen, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Hopefully that wasn't too much. Well no, I'm just that
to me, is why you do a show like that.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
I'm just hoping that you know they tread lightly around
the break in at his place, because.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
There's a there's always a way to make it work
in your favor. That's what media is right, and content
gives you the ability to be able to create the
narrative that you want to.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Have editorial control.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
It is two and a Cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, No, Brady Quinn, sorry about that.
Just a bad habit, folks, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with
you here coming up next though.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
It is a Wednesday tradition.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
It's the good, the bad, and the ugly, and it's
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Speaker 2 (34:14):
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Speaker 3 (34:26):
Wow, what a bad song. Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
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Speaker 2 (35:00):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
It's time for good, bad and lovely, all right, lead
to laugh. Who's got what?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Well?
Speaker 7 (35:12):
As you guys know, each and every week we start
with the good, and you know it's a great week
because Jonas, you are delivering the goods.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, my good goes to Bill Belichick. Continue to push
back against the hate and the jealousy that you are receiving.
He doesn't stop.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Doing these interviews. No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
He's going to continue to do these interviews. He's going
to continue to tell his side of the story, and
he's going to continue to focus on getting his football
team ready for the upcoming season. You got a lot
of bitter people out there, a lot of horned up
analysts and people on the media who just want to
know what it's like, what's he doing? How do they
lay all the other things that We've talked about on
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this show before. But if you're Bill Belichick, just continue
to keep on keeping on. We support you here, Bill.
That's my good for the week.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Ken have good without the bad. LeVar, what was bad
this week?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
What is bad? Me going through this show with a migraine?
That's bad. It just feels like I got to hit
my head in a vice grip. But we're making it work, man.
I mean, you know, you got to know how to
play hurt. You got to be able to deliver the goods.
That's part of why I had such a strong take
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on Aaron Gordon saying he wants more rest time in
between games. While I'm not putting on sneakers and a
jersey to go out there and try to shoot basketballs
and get rebounds and box people out and play defense.
I still got to get up. I still got to
put my pants on one leg out of time. I
still got to put my shirt on same exact way
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and get on this mic, crack the microphone, and deliver
a good product. So I'll tell you what, I don't
need rest time to be able to deliver and put
my best foot forward, so that even though it's bad
that I got this migraine that I'm dealing with it,
It's still good because I'm showing y'all out there that
you know what, you can push through to pain, you
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can play hurt, get it done. Hell yeah, that's all bad,
but yet good.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
There you go, love it and from bad to worse.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
I'll call an audible for Brady the quarterback here and
I'll beat deliver.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
The ugly how about uh?
Speaker 7 (37:20):
You know, I I've been watching the Untold series on Netflix,
which documents different uh sports stories. Last night was the
fall of Farv and whether or not you fall on
one side or the other. Obviously I'm a far fan,
but uh a crucial you know, critical of him and
everything that's come out after the fact.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, not great, not great.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
But I'll say this, not a great job by the
documentarians and making their case against Farv. I actually, you
know I I I felt bad. I've always said, like, hey,
don't meet your heroes. They did an awful job of
making their case again as far as you know, both
a predator against Jen Sturger and as a you know,
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the welfare scandal that he's had. They didn't really prove anything.
They didn't deliver anything that you haven't known before. In fact,
they made it look like he was.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (38:16):
If you wanted to be on his side, I would
say the documentary he did that.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I think.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
I think Lee was saying they should now buy him
a drink based on the way he was false.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah. I think what Lee is saying is they probably
should have gave him some more money, been a little
bit more appreciated.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, it wasn't good.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let's get this, punies, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
You ever get a migraine?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Jonas, It ain't your grain, it ain't his grain.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
This migrain. Oh gosh, all right.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Uh No, I don't believe so.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
If you were arms length away from me right now,
I might have slapped you in your face doing that
because this hurts. It hurts bad. You just may fun
U thirteenth Warrior on the right side of my head
and my face.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
No, remember you remember when us You remember when uh
with Sports Center back of the day. Remember ar vetas
a bonus, the guy who played for the Trailblazers. Yeah,
they used to do when they would do his highlights,
they go, he's not your vetus. He's not my vetus,
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he's our vetas.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
So that's what it.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Made me think of.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
But I've never had, never had a migraine. I do
remember the the It was a Terrell Davis who had
the migraine in the Super Bowl and he couldn't see
and they're like, just run into the line of scrimmage.
We're gonna do a play action here. When the Broncos
beat the Packers and the Super Bowl, I've heard.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
This once for Chom. I heard their brutal though.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Hey man, this is this Tyler Lorraina. This one wants
to be so bad. But it's tolerable because I know
what's so bad is like if it was so bad,
you'd be telling the people like, yeah, we let LeVar go.
He had to go jump in a fetal position, put
ice on his on his face, and sit in a
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dark room. I'm tolerating it because I can you know,
I can tell the medicine is holding it in check.
But it's like literally a war going on in my
head right now, Like.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
It's got to be football related, right like did you
have this as a kid?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Did you have this before you started up?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You know, it's crazy. First of all I hit hard
as f as a kid. So and and when you
know I was taught, you know, I was taught how
to make contact and you use your head. Now, the
phenomenon of what what happens with me with my my
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headaches is I only get them on the right side
of my head, like that's it. That's the only place
that I get my grains is over my eye and
on my right temple, like that's it. In my jaw,
it like for some reason, it gets into my jaw.
It's like it just takes all the muscles in and
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around the right side of my face. And it's like
a boa constrictor. If I could explain it, like that
would be the best way of which how can you say,
you know what that feels like? And I've never been
squeezed by a boa constrictor, and I'm sure nobody else
listening probably has been, But it just feels like something
constricting you so bad, NonStop on the right side of
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my face. I've never gotten a headache on the left
side of my face, Jonas, But I always use my
right side to hit more often than than not. So
I don't know, because if you think about it, when
I say use my right side. It's not like you
can like I didn't turn my head and make contact
with people with the right side of my head. I
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made contact with my face and it was my right
shoulder that I was using more often than not. Anyway,
long story short, When I went and did like all
of my you know, post post evaluations and stuff for
the league. And this was before CTE by the way, right,
I go and I do my my line of duty,
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you know, physicals and stuff like that, they told me,
Jonas Knox that they could not scientifically or medically say
that football was the reason why I was getting these
these like extreme migraines on the right side of my head.
They couldn't They couldn't give me a medical reason as
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to if it was connected to me playing football. It's
so I'm not a blamer either, you know what I mean.
So I mean I'm not a blamer. I don't sit
there and I'm like, oh no, you know football gave
me migraines.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
How much dental work? How much dental work have you
had on that side, like if you had root canals
or any sort of tooth issues on that side. Because
I grocked it, and they said you know, potentially there's
you know, could be some dental stuff going on on
that side.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No, no, yeah, it's not that. I don't have any
anything going on in that region of my mouth other
than molars, you know. So no, I don't have any
work there. I don't even have. I told you I'm
going back to go get a gold crown to match
the other gold crown I have on the lower part.
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But it's not my lower part so much. It's the
upper part, you know, like the upper part of my
job would be, and my face and my temple, you know,
just my eye. But no, I don't think it's dental.
I've done enough. I've done a ton of like, bro,
like the extremeness of the I was telling Lorraina, she
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you know, she said she gets kaleidoscope vision, which I've
had that. But when I was in college and I
would catch them, my arm would disappear. I couldn't see
my arm, like my vision would actually go away. Wait
what I could, Bro, I'm telling you, I got some
really extreme migraines where it like totally altered, like I
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thought I was out of here a couple times, Like
I called my parents said, listen, I love y'all. You know,
I don't know if this is the end, but this
migraine hurts so bad. And they back then, they weren't
really medicating me, like they would give me like these
these nostril, these nasal nasal spray deals, you know, and
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they if I didn't use it quick enough, it once
it took, it didn't matter. So they used to have
shots that would work. But I don't think they took
me seriously. This funny, interesting trivia. Joe thought I was
trying to wear a visor to be cool when I
played at Penn State, right like, I used to wear
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a visor. They made me take the dark visor off
for games because it wasn't legal. But if you were
called in in the pros, there was there was a
time where I had a dark visor and I was
actually clear to wear a visor. It was not for
a look. It was because I was getting migrains that
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were so bad that the light, like if I had
light my eyes, I couldn't function. So I wore a visor,
you know, because the light light made it really you know,
made it sensitive for me. So anyway, it's interesting trivia.
I wasn't trying to be like a diva or anything
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wearing advisor on the football field. It was because literally
health reasons why I was trying to keep you know,
the sunlight and stuff out of liked it and hit
my eyes because it's like the symptoms were bad. Anything
that would trigger it and make it go. Like one
time I got hit Tim Biakabatuca hit me. It was
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like a concussion, but it triggered a migraine. I had
to go sit in in total darkness for an entire
first half of a game and then came back and
played in the second half, made a play. We ended
up winning the game because I made to play, took
the interception for a touchdown. That di rest was history.
We won the game. Well, went on a four game,
five game winning streak.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I mean, I do know this one place you know
where there's not going to be collisions like that is
in the Olympics when it comes to flag football. Why well,
now and now we are going to get to see
potentially some NFL player players be a part of it.
They voted on it yesterday at the owner's meetings, and
Roger Goodell discussed the fact that it was a unanimous
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yes to allowing and opening the door to allowing NFL
players to participate in lag football at the Olympics. Here
in twenty twenty eight, here was the commission.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I think this is news, represents a great opportunity for
the sport, for the NFL, It's truly the next step
in making NFL football and football a global sport for
men and women of all ages and all opportunities across
the globe. We think that's the right thing to do,
and this is a big step in accomplishing that. For
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our players, we think it's a tremendous opportunity for them
to represent their country, to compete for a gold medal,
which is a pinnacle of global sports. It's something that
I think all professional athletes, and we have two here
today that'll speak to this that across many different sports,
the opportunity to play for your country and to win
a gold medal or any medal is a wonderful and
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an honor to be able to do so.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I like the fact.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Do you think there would be fallout if they said no,
we don't want you, well, don't want our players to
do that?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Well, I wondered, So what I guess I was a
little bit surprised by is the fact that it was
unanimously voted thirty two. Nothing like, yeah, we'll let our
players participate, because I could understand an owner being like, man,
we're paying all these guys all this money, Like there's
no just because it's non contact doesn't mean there's not
going to be injuries, like a guy could turn left,
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turn right, you know, and trying to ass it. Yeah,
and now you know, my multi million dollar investment is
down the drain and he can't participate in the season.
And there's they still need to figure out logistically how
this could work because it's going to the Olympics. You know,
if it's in the first week, it would still allow
them time to report to camp at that point, but
if it's in the second week, it might cut into
their training camp time with their team. So there's still
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things that they've got to sort through. So I was
a little surprised that owners didn't have more pushback and
it was unanimously voted yes. But I also look at
it and I go just from an Olympic stamp and
I'll be honest, no offense probably sixty percent of the
events at the Olympics I couldn't care less about at
all whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
We care about Will you care about flag?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yes, and especially if you know and like Justin Jefferson
wants to be a part of it, Tyreek Hill, like
these are recognizable names, like a lot of a lot
of Olympic athletes. You may not know big picture because
some of those sports don't get the coverage that the
Big four get, you know, NFL, College Football, NBA, Major
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League Baseball, NHL. They don't get the coverage of those
sports get. So when you get to see them, you're
kind of like, oh, you start to get to know
these athletes during a two week window. But if you know,
going into it, oh, Tyreek Hills on the US flag
football team, I want to see that.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I would love to see it.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
And so you're bringing recognizable names to the Olympics, and
I actually think it does a lot more for the
Olympics maybe than it does for the NFL, to be
honest with you.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I mean, is this safe to say The reason why
it's not break dancing, it's it's flag football that's the
sport of choice for the Olympics coming to America is
because of the influence of the NFL. Would that be
safe to say? Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Would it be safe to say that this whole tremendously
large movement and campaign of flag football, of women in
flag football, women in football, based off of flag football,
that push, and and that that exposure and marketing to
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the masses is generated from the National Football League. Would
we say that that's that's accurate. Yeah, if that is
the case, if that is truly indeed the case, and
you follow the money, you always got to follow the money.
How much money, how many resources are being dedicated to
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the buildout and the growth of flag football. And I
made this point every single time we brought up flag
football during our conversations that in order to combat what
I just talked about, which is the irony of me
talking about my headache, in order to combat all of
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the fallout all of the fear moms are scared to
allow their kids to play football tackle football. I would
say probably moms more so than dads, even though a
lot of dads don't want their kids playing football until
they get older. You know, based off of them looking
at what they believe the studies to be and the
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brain developing and all those things. Flag football has been
what I believe the sport that they you know, people
have settled in on football enthusiasts have settled in on
as a happy medium. So it's almost like this is
the training wheels before you take the training wheels off
of the bike and the kids under stand how football
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works and the mechanics of it plays different things, the
functionality of football before you get into the contact and
the physical aspects of the sport itself. And if that's
what you're doing, if you're championing flag football as a
starting starting point for youth, but also as a competitive
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sport for women, right a competitive aspect for older people,
older generations because older people play flag football as well,
then it almost to me would be counterproductive. It totally
undercuts it. It totally waters down what you have represented
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in trying to turn the sport, the game of flag
football into a respected not only nationally but international game
to play. It's much cheaper to fild a flag football
team than it is to field a tackle football team.
The resources needed are very different. So if you're trying
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to expand the sport of football, and flag football is
one of the avenues that you're using to spread that
message and spread that word. Even though it is not
tackle football, it still is a version of football, and
if it's being supported, which it is being supported and
financed by NFL, the NFL in a large part, then
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you have no choice in this situation. Really, the fallout
I think would be crazy that I think the impact
of the owners voting no would be amazing, the amount
of scrutiny that they would open themselves up to if
they did not vote yes for guys to be able
to compete for a medal playing flag football. It's like,
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how hypocritical would that be to not allow the players
to have the opportunity to compete for a gold medal
playing flag football. So I think that there wasn't very
much of an opportunity or or a chance for the
owners to actually vote no against this anyway.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I wonder at one point, because like you do have
varying degrees of interest, Like Justin Jefferson, as we mentioned,
he said, you know, would love an opportunity to compete
for the gold, et cetera. Then you've got aj Brown
who was like, I'm not interested. You know, I need
to get ready for the season. You've got you know,
people the organizers of flag football have said, look, there
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is going to be hopefully some NFL players involved in this,
but there are specialists in flag football that have been
groomed for this opportunity, and so you're going to have
a mixture of that along with some NFL players. But
I do wonder at one point, is an NFL player,
you know, going to get frustrated about something that happens
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in the game and just lower his shoulder just to
send a message, you know. Okay, all right, so let
us show you what the real football looks like. And
I do wonder what that sort of dynamic is going
to be.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
But it's gonna be sick. It would be sick if
there was a team somewhere around the world that their
soul expertise is playing flag football and they were actually
able to beat Americans, that as would be wild. Could
you imagine if you're like, yeah, there's somewhere in a
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region where a basketball team could actually beat the USA
in basketball, Like you'd be like, dang, like seems improbable.
But you know, now it's more believable to think. You
know so many international players. But I'll say this, bruh,
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there are if you look at the names that are
out there, like, I'll say this, you better be happy
that Hawaii is considered a US state. It's one of
the states. You better be happy that that Samoans and
Tonguans and Polynesians are considered Americans. You better be happy
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about that. You gotta be concerned about Africans. I'm just
being honest. You gotta be concerned about Africans. There would
be a place, and I would tell you, I'm gonna
give you another one.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Imagine that gold medal game and the Sudan is a
ten point favorite over the US.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That would be the Sudan. It would be Nigeria, actually
it would be Nigerians. But what would be crazy. I'll
tell you what would be crazy is they play some
hell of five flag football in Mexico. Bro Mexicans know
how to play some flag football. It would just be
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wold if you saw but within the rules that you're
able to utilize that there was actually a team that's
so there. It's like probably a club team out there
that that's all they do. Jonas, I mean like, it's
it's feasible to think that a team could, I guess
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strategically be good enough to be able to beat an
American All Star team of NFL professionals brought together.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I mean it is a different game.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
It's different.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, it's not different. So there is that.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
I mean, there is going to have to be some
guys that have specialized in flag football that are going
to be part of it, and they might end up
being the best players.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Like they're not going to be this they might end
up being the best players, but strategically speaking, within the
parameters of what flag football represents, they might have a
more competitive advantage over anybody else.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I mean, by the way you you mentioned Mexico, this
does open up the door to, uh, you know, reignite
another rivalry in a different sport, because the Mexican US
soccer team rivalry is a real deal. And uh, the
Mexican fans have been known to you know, urinate in
bottles and throw it at the American players if they
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get close.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
So I'm not saying, well, for.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
What it's worth, don't make that a Mexican thing, because
that has happened with American players too.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
But I would encourage that, I just I would encourage
opposing fans maybe not to take that approach because these
are NFL players you're dealing with from time to two.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
What does that mean, Well, you know it was malice.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Maybe maybe they might find them way their way up
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We talked earlier in the show about the international schedule.
The NFL is hoping to get to sixteen games in
a season internationally, that, according to Roger Goodell, sooner rather
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than later. Joe Burrow, the quarterback of the Cincinnati Bengals,
he spoke about his interest in wanting to play internationally,
and he also spoke about the reasoning behind his saying
yes to appearing on the Netflix show The Quarterback Coming Up.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Caught me on the right day.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I guess I know.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I think it's going to be I think it's gonna
be good entertainment, not necessarily the season that I wanted
to have in that spotlight, But you know, I think
a big part was Peyton being involved.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
In it too.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
You know, I have a lot of respect for him obviously,
and what he did does is as a person. So
that guy reaches out to you and asks you to
do something, then you know, most of the time I'm
going to say, yeah, only positive things could could come
out of it. You know, he's going to protect, protect me,
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protect our team, protect an organization. And I have trust
in him for saying that, and trust that he's going
to do that, so I would probably wouldn't have done
it if he if he wasn't involved, I have a
lot of trust and faith in him to not do
anything that would that would hurt me or the team.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
So if Peyton Manning's behind it, he could, he could talk.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
He had to do it. Basically, it sound logic and
it's and it's reasonable what he what he's saying is
very reasonable. And again, why would Peyton Manning do anything
that would disqualify him from having the access that he
has right now? There's no reason to do that. There's
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no storyline worth chasing that would put him or Omaha
Productions into that type of scenario where they like, if
you're doing a situation where an organization or player that's
on your show has to do damage control, imagine how
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many times worse it is for damage control for your
production house. And while somebody may argue and say, nuh,
it's great for business. You know, controversy sells this, that
and the other. Da da da da da da YadA
ya da da and reality television, yes, that is true.
(24:27):
Conflict sales, problems sell drama sells like So take for instance,
what took place at Joe Burrow's house. Right, that would
be tremendous reality television content to get the behind the scenes,
the behind us imagine if the quarterback showed what really happened, right,
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But if they do, which they probably would have, just
so everybody's clear, they're not going to not do it.
But I think that what you're hearing in that SoundBite
is understanding that Peyton Manning does have the perspective of
being a top quarterback at the highest level, and that
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he is very aware of what public persona represents, you know,
the whole idea of what your brand represents. And I
don't think that he would do anything to bring any
harm or reproach on your name. And so to me,
I look at it like this, it's a win situation.
(25:35):
You know, it's one hundred percent accurate to say, how
can you have a loss in doing something on the
level that this show is on and opens you up
to such a large amount of people. You know, you
can expand the pool of people that you fall into
in terms of being an influence to or even just
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being recognized and noticed by. So now you open yourself
up to more opportunities for branding opportunities, branding deals. I
think it's an excellent way of building and growing your
brand if there's something else that you do. It doesn't
have to just be football centric. You can leverage these
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things in a day and age where now in college
nil such a big thing. It's all connected to brand value,
brand build out. It ends up being you in the
National Football League. You still can leverage and still should
be thinking build your brand, build it strong, build the
value so that you can monetize that brand and build
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what it is that you're doing outside of the parameters
of football.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
All right, let me ask you a question, because I
can I understand the idea of wanting to build your brand.
If you know, if you're a player, you want to
build your brand. You want to you know, get your
name out there more all everything that comes along with it.
Do you really have to do that if you're quarterback?
Which is why I've always thought it would be fascinating
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if they did something on offensive linemen or they did
something on another position group that maybe doesn't get the
attention that that the quarterback does. But I look at
Joe Burrow, I look at Jared Goff, I look at
Kirk Cousins and I'm like, you're already name brands, and
what it like, what does this do for you that
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you don't already have. You've already got a couple hundred
million dollars in the bank, You've got the notoriety, you've
got the fame, you're successful, you could potentially be a
Hall of Famer at the end of this whole thing.
What does this do for you? And if you're Joe
Burrow and all of a sudden they chronicle, you know,
the break in at your house that you pointed out,
are they you know whether or not your assistant really
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was your assistant?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
And who knows?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I mean, that's a not a bad looking assistant to have,
if you're going to have one, I guess. But at
what point is it too much? Like listen, man, Like
I play football, I'm a name brand. I kind of
want my privacy. And it just feels like you're opening
the door to everybody having even more information and more
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intel about you who you are as a person, and
it kind of breaks down the wall of separating what
you do professionally and your personal And so I just wonder, like,
why the appeal to some of these.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Things that exists because of social media now anyway, it
is prevalent and it exists in terms of the opportunities
that people have to put things out there on you
that apply to you, and it is a little bit
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scary because it's kind of outside of your control. What
I would say to what you're saying is is take
advantage of where where you are. Take advantage of the
fact that you are quarterback. Take advantage of the fact
that you are a known quarterback and you don't even
have to be known. I tell people that aren't even known,
you could be more influential and set yourself up to
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make just as much money, if not more than the
people that are the starters or are the popular guys.
And it goes to the point of what you're asking
the question about. Let me ask you this. Here's a
counter question to prove the point. Do you know if
Joe Burrow, you know, is into a cause? What what
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drives him? What? What is the charity that Joe Burrow?
You know what he supports? Do you know? Do you know? No?
I don't, Okay, do you know what deodor in he uses?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
So this is to promote whether or not he used.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Just I'm gonna just walk you through. I'm gonna walk
you through the exercise, right, Do you know what type
of deodor and he uses or any type of like
body washes, anything that he uses to take care of himself,
grooming wise, his razors, is his haircare products? Do you
know any of those things?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
No, I don't want to. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Okay, but you don't know, and you don't care because
you don't know. So therefore, if you don't know, you
generally aren't going to care. Right, But say, for instance,
like you've had, like just think about anything that you
may have gone through with family issues that mean the
most to you. Do those issues that you've dealt with
(30:20):
with your family and what it's had impact wise on
your family? Do you care about that? Would you care
about that? Well? Yes, my family exactly. So if that
gap is bridged between an athlete and a fan that
doesn't generally care unless it's something that is relevant to them,
then it doesn't matter. So if say, for instance, you
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know somebody was abused in your family and this campaign
is wrapped around the very thing that you've experienced and
had to deal with emotions and feelings about, if that's
framed up the right way and Joe Burrow is the
one that's talking about it. Like on his days off,
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he goes to a shelter, he assists moms that are
with children and he helps them do this. I'll give
you a great example a Tim Tebow, Like if we
didn't know he was going to foreign countries to talk
to people and going to jails to talk to people
into jail houses, and his connection with you know, his
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belief in God and what that represents and how that
plays a part in his life. That man is the
perfect poster child and an example of how you can
take your brand and build the brand of your value
and it could even exceed having one of the greatest
(31:48):
college football careers that has ever taken place in the game.
His faith and what he represents morality wise outweighs the
fact that he won national titles and won the Heisman
that has endured the test of time. He has remained
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relevant because he's done something that most athletes fail to do,
which is take the time when you are a known
commodity or within a known commodity situation. I played at
Penn State, known commodity. Did you know who LeVar was?
Maybe you did? Maybe you did it? But I have
the ability to leverage the known commodities that I'm representing.
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That's the difference, Jonas. When a player represents a known commodity,
the team they played for, the university they played for,
the city they played for, the community they played for.
All of those entities have the ability to benefit from
the brand of the athletes that represent them. But the
athlete themselves never really understand the power and the opportunity
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that exists for them to add their name to the
list of of those those entities that are benefiting from
you being an asset so branding and understanding branding, doing
a show like the QB Show. Having that exposure, you
now put yourself in a situation where your brand alone
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can be beneficial and can be monetized. Just like the
franchise that they don't pay you all that money just
to win games, Jonas, they pay you all that money
because of how leverageable you are and your brand is
within the ecosystem of what they created.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Well, listen, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Hopefully that wasn't too much. Well no, I'm just that
to me, is why you do a show like that.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
I'm just hoping that you know they tread lightly around
the break in at his place, because.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
There's a there's always a way to make it work
in your favor. That's what media is right, and content
gives you the ability to be able to create the
narrative that you want to.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Have editorial control.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
It is two and a Cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, No, Brady Quinn, sorry about that.
Just a bad habit, folks, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with
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Speaker 3 (34:09):
It is a Wednesday tradition.
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It's the good, the bad, and the ugly, and it's
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Wow, what a bad song. Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
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Speaker 2 (35:00):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
It's time for good, bad and lovely, all right, lead
to laugh. Who's got what?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Well?
Speaker 7 (35:12):
As you guys know, each and every week we start
with the good, and you know it's a great week
because Jonas, you are delivering the goods.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, my good goes to Bill Belichick. Continue to push
back against the hate and the jealousy that you are receiving.
He doesn't stop.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Doing these interviews. No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
He's going to continue to do these interviews. He's going
to continue to tell his side of the story, and
he's going to continue to focus on getting his football
team ready for the upcoming season. You got a lot
of bitter people out there, a lot of horned up
analysts and people on the media who just want to
know what it's like, what's he doing? How do they
lay all the other things that We've talked about on
(35:50):
this show before. But if you're Bill Belichick, just continue
to keep on keeping on. We support you here, Bill.
That's my good for the week.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Ken have good without the bad. LeVar, what was bad
this week?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
What is bad? Me going through this show with a migraine?
That's bad. It just feels like I got to hit
my head in a vice grip. But we're making it work, man.
I mean, you know, you got to know how to
play hurt. You got to be able to deliver the goods.
That's part of why I had such a strong take
(36:24):
on Aaron Gordon saying he wants more rest time in
between games. While I'm not putting on sneakers and a
jersey to go out there and try to shoot basketballs
and get rebounds and box people out and play defense.
I still got to get up. I still got to
put my pants on one leg out of time. I
still got to put my shirt on same exact way
(36:45):
and get on this mic, crack the microphone, and deliver
a good product. So I'll tell you what, I don't
need rest time to be able to deliver and put
my best foot forward, so that even though it's bad
that I got this migraine that I'm dealing with it,
It's still good because I'm showing y'all out there that
you know what, you can push through to pain, you
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can play hurt, get it done. Hell yeah, that's all bad,
but yet good.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
There you go, love it and from bad to worse.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
I'll call an audible for Brady the quarterback here and
I'll beat deliver.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
The ugly how about uh?
Speaker 7 (37:20):
You know, I I've been watching the Untold series on Netflix,
which documents different uh sports stories. Last night was the
fall of Farv and whether or not you fall on
one side or the other. Obviously I'm a far fan,
but uh a crucial you know, critical of him and
everything that's come out after the fact.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, not great, not great.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
But I'll say this, not a great job by the
documentarians and making their case against Farv. I actually, you
know I I I felt bad. I've always said, like, hey,
don't meet your heroes. They did an awful job of
making their case again as far as you know, both
a predator against Jen Sturger and as a you know,
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the welfare scandal that he's had. They didn't really prove anything.
They didn't deliver anything that you haven't known before. In fact,
they made it look like he was.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (38:16):
If you wanted to be on his side, I would
say the documentary he did that.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I think.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
I think Lee was saying they should now buy him
a drink based on the way he was false.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah. I think what Lee is saying is they probably
should have gave him some more money, been a little
bit more appreciated.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, it wasn't good.
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