January 22, 2026 • 40 mins
In Hour 2, the guys go over the return of Eric Bieniemy to the Chiefs kingdom in a fiery debate about whether his return really impacts the offense or not. Plus, the guys go over the Charles Bediako going back to college to finish his playing eligibility, name our Express Pro of the Week, and more!!
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Telling you what going on.
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So big time?
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I was done in the like second round. I think
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Carrie Rhodes.
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The winner came.
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Down to him and Andy Furman, and ultimately Rhodes gets
it done. Now that being said, there's been a lot
of speculation about what the future of Travis Kelsey is
going to be, and he had some thoughts on his
podcast about the recent edition of Eric B Enemy, who
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was back. Eric B Enemy spent one season with the
Bears as their running backs coach, and Matt Naggie is
moving on Eric B Enemy's back of the building as oc.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So let's take a listen to Travis Kelsey's response.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I think it's great.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
I think it's a marriage is going to pick up
right where it left off. Eb and who he is
as a coach. You can see kind of his personality,
what he brings to his table in that Chicago team.
I know Ben Johnson has his own version of that.
He's a very tough guy and what he did in
uh in Detroit. He brought over as well, and you
can see those running backs over Chicago and their their
(04:12):
body of work was was definitely Eric b enemy uh
style of football man.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And hell yeah, I can't wait to see him back
in the building.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Man, He's one of He's one of my favorite coaches
of all time, one of my favorite people of all time.
I've had so many unbelievable, you know, growing moments under
him as a as a player, as a person, and uh,
I just love the guy and it's gonna be awesome
to see him back in the building.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Uh, and see him back wearing the chief logo. Baby,
So there we go.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
I was excited to see him back, which they haven't
been a good offense since he left. I know everybody
gave Andy Reid the credit for calling the plays, but
he was there and I think he played a major role.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Didn't won a Super Bowl after he left, well, I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
A lot of people would debate that it was based
upon their defense and now their defense played and how
they have played. I mean, I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Just being there. The enemy was doing well like he left, Like,
here's the reality. The enemy didn't do well. The Chiefs
won a Super Bowl? Like can we stop?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Like I'm just to the reunion be people can have
opinions outside of yours. Pretty okay, that was true there,
Well in your estimation, it wasn't true. A lot of
people would say a lot of people would say Spagnola
and that defense was the catalyst of that team success.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's not a that's not a that's my truth.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
How about I hope Patrick Mahomes go somewhere else so
we can really see that Steve Spagnola defense.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Well, I mean he did go somewhere else because he
hasn't been to Patrick Mahomes that was there early on.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
He hasn't been.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
He wasn't that guy this year, last year, He wasn't
that guy the year before.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He was hurt.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Oh okay, all right, well there you go, he's hurt.
There you go like that. That makes it all better. Facts,
that makes it all better. Patrick Mahomes was hurt, and
and that's it. Like, okay, But what I do know
is Eric b Enemy had a bigger impact on that
offense than what he was giving credit for.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That's what I do know. How about that great they
won a super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I'm totally aware of the fact that they won a
super Bowl, and I'm totally aware of the fact that
the catalyst of their team has been their defense and
whether people want to give them that credit or not,
they haven't been the same since ERICB.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Enemy and the Cheetah left that team done. That's my
that's that's my take on it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Now, you could come in and say what reality is
from your reality, but my reality is a little different
than yours. And that's okay. It's an old book. Just
take a look. It's reading Rainbow. There you go, my
reading Rainbow break take that breake Quin. So my opinion,
while you're in your look, he didn't went to AI.
(06:56):
Let me go to AI. Let me let me go
to AI. I'm not going to are in there go it.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
My opinion is okay, this is a good marriage for
both Eric B. Enemy and obviously some of the players,
guys like Travis Kelcey who missed them and wanted him back.
To say that the Chiefs need him is completely false
and not true. They won a Super Bowl, they won
(07:24):
another AFC championship and lost in the Super Bowl without him.
This is the first year where you saw signs of struggles,
and I would say I'll be curious to see what
happens with their offense next years as Eric Bana me
left and went for other opportunities. I don't think things
worked out in Washington. They didn't work out at UCLA.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
So it is what it is like again.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Sometimes you know, it ends up being the right fit
at a certain spot for all parties involved, and that
could be what this is. So I know Travis Kelsey
is excited about it. I think that the bigger take
wasn't the Eric b Enemy take on this. It's the
fact that everyone thought Travis kels was going to retire,
and he alluded to the way he talked about it,
(08:09):
like you can't wait to see him in that building
and all that, Like, oh, all right, so you're coming back.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Then? That was I thought, actually the.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Bigger take from the SoundBite hmmm, because every TV network
wrote him off like it was the last game he'd
ever play, and it kind of made it sound like,
maybe that's not the case.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
I did my thing on the Travis Kelsey potential retirement
was I just wonder if he looks at it and says, man,
I don't want to go out without Patrick Mahomes, like I,
you know, I don't want, you know, my last catch
as a chief to be from, you know, Chris Aladuke
and I believe is his name, and that's no shade
(08:51):
on him, But I think Travis Kelsey has a storybook potential, storybook.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Ending in his mind.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
He's got he's got his fantasy that he wants in
his mind met and that's with Patrick Mahomes on the
field with him, and he walks off and goes into
the sunset because you know, I think I don't think
he battled the injuries and was as banged up as
he had been in previous years. And so when you
hear him in the way he talks about Eric b Enemy,
it's like, Okay, well, yeah, maybe the window does open.
(09:18):
Maybe Patrick Mahomes starts the season on the pup list
and maybe there's an opportunity for him there. It also,
you know, would indicate that apparently things weren't weren't great
with Matt Naggie. He's now interviewing as the OC and
Philly when he was up for the head coaching job
in Tennessee, and there's not a pathroom to get back
to Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
So coaches go different places and underperform all the time
after having success somewhere prior to that happens.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's not unique.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Sure, Uniquet Mahomes as quarterback, I would love to call
plays for Patrick. Sure, once he became Patrick Mahomes, I
can make a bad play call and I know he's
good enough to overcome that. Well, the same tell the
truth about it, Like Naggy did not get the same
results as as Aerby Enemy as the offensive coordinator, But
(10:06):
yeah he did because they didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
They were ranked, they won a super Bowl, they went
the two. What's their ranking under Naggy?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
What?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
What's their offensive rankings? Doesn't matter if they win a
super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yes, because there's a reason why.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Okay, okay, so so Trent, here's here's the Let's put
Dilpourh in the Hall of Fame. Like, hey, y'all won
the Super Bowl, Trent, You're in the Hall of Fame too.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Everything.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
He's always got a Super Bowl, He's always got a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
He does he always one of the greatest defenses in
the history of the game. Let's put Vince there. Let's
put h McMahon in there. Like, let's wrong, let's go
back to eighty five, Like, let's put McMahon in. Cocky
QB known as it's a great argument when you use
only two cases in the history of the NFL. If
you going though, if you did that the other day, Q,
(10:54):
I learned from the best. You're gonna give me Indiana?
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Who wait?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
What a basketball school?
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Okay, Craig, you gave me one example. I'm giving you two.
I beat you by one.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
What are you talking about when we were discussing the
Duke Blue Devils being a football school and you used
Indiana as an example as well. They are considered to
be a football basketball school as well. I mean, I'm
saying you gave me one extreme example. I gave you
two extreme examples. I'm not not hiding from that. But nonetheless,
(11:30):
Trent Dilfer and what what's what's what's McMahon's first day
at this point, Jim McMahon, Jim McMahon, there you go,
I mean, man or not that. I mean you're saying, oh,
you got Patrick Maholmes. That's you're going to win a
Super Bowl? Like, let's just go work go full circle here? Okay, yes,
seing factful as a play caller.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Okay, that he's now interviewing for other offensive coordinator jobs,
is that fair, right?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
No? It's not fair. I mean, because Andy Reid. That's
the reality of it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
The funny thing about your argument is you're trying to
make an argue about who the OC is, as if
it matters. Reid still calls the plays. Bro That's why
Eric Banamy wanted to go somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh, it doesn't have any.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Okay, So there's no contribution to the success of the offense, because.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Sure, sure there's contribution. I'm not trying to be little
what they're doing. But if Andy Reid calls the plays,
no different than Kyle Shanahan, No that different than Sean McVay,
no different than Kevin O'Connell. Do you think the offensive
coordinator position is as important if the guy who's actually
calling the plays is the head coach?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yes, it is important because of the structure, because of
the execution of it, the implementation of it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And here's what I tell you is the personal relationships
of it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
You can't sit there, You can't sit there in one
instance and say, well, you gotta give Eric bin Me
credit and then not give Matt Naggie credit.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Then can you, well, Catt Naggy was not The offense
was not as productive under mcnaggy as it was under
Eric b enemy.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Right, who didn't call plays.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
And by the way, there was times when it wasn't
as you're saying, both of them didn't call plays correct.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, so it doesn't matter right now. What you're making
is that he's back, like he's gonna make a difference.
It's not gonna make a difference.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Their issue is the pieces around Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I don't buy that. I don't buy that. And the
reason why I don't buy it.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Is but Chelsea isn't the same player.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
He is the same that. I mean, he isn't he's older.
Like that's fine, I don't. I don't have a problem
with debating, like there's no debate on Chelsea is old,
Like it's not he's not the same player. I get that.
But if you're telling me the impact of the o
C on Kansas City has no bearing on their success,
I've never said it doesn't hating you're saying.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It doesn't matter as much if he's not calling the plays.
It's different compared to other organisations with the head coach.
For example, John Harbaugh is the head coach of the
New York Giants. You know what he's not gonna do LeVar.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
He's okay.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So don't you think the offensive coordator matters a little
bit more then?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well in.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
That category, in that instance, it matters more. Yes, that's correct,
you my god. But the behind the scenes is just
as important as the person who's calling the plays.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It's just as important, and it is it is, by
the way, the behind the scenes for both is the same.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
The differences those guys aren't the ones pulling the trigger on.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Game day, which has a significant importance.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I've played for plenty of offensive coordinators who can put
together a good game plan, but when the game starts,
they don't know how.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
To call plays.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Okay, all right, that's like having a defensive coordinator who.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Calls, I am an NFL We're gonna you know, I'm
an NFL vet. You do know that. I've been around
offensive coordinators too. I'm not a quarterback, but i'm pretty
I'm pretty learning.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And you've never been around a defensive coordinator who couldn't
call good defense?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, didn't know what was coming. I wouldn't say couldn't
call put you in a bad spot.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Well, I would say most most head coaches are delegators
of duties, That's what I would say. And if you
want to not delegate play calling because you trust your
play calling instincts better, or take over during the course
of a game because you feel like you can make
a difference more so than what the OC is doing.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Sure, I've been around O c's and d c's that
been that way. I've been around head coaches that way.
You mean, where are you going with this? What do
you mean? What am I saying? Well, you're not even
answering the question. Have you not been with the defensive
coordinator whoere you're like, you see it couldn't keep plays?
I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I don't know that I've ever been around a coordinator
that couldn't call plays, or or a head coach that
couldn't call plays.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I mean, you've never been with a defensive coordinator you
thought was bad at calling defenses?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Well, I thought they were bad coordinators.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
But I mean that's what I wouldn't say, that they
couldn't call plays.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
They called plays. They got the job.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Okay, how many people get a coordinator's job at the
NFL level, at the pro level, I mean, there's only
so many jobs. There's all you got to go through
a very very extensive process from what it looks like.
To get these positions, they had to do something right
to get there. They had to do something right. What
did they do right? Because I don't know. I mean
(16:22):
maybe I just don't know. Maybe I'm just ignorant to it.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Apparently you don't, because like Kevin Patulo, did he do
a good job Philly?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Obviously not one job? Yeah? Then he got fired? Like yeah,
let's give this guy try it doesn't work out? Well, okay, Like.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Well, that opens up a large Then that opens up
a larger conversation because the time. Then that opens up
a larger conversation because to me, you gotta be good
enough to be able to get the job, to mes
enough to get.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Away from any of their ability to get the job
or what their job is.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
When they become an OC. But the reality is, LeVar, if.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
You're not calling a place, the title isn't as powerful.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Hear this, It's just not do you hear what this
young man is going to me? Right now?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
All right, let's move on. Let's move on this younger
generation of guys. Man, I'm telling you, they different, They different, Come.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
On, man, I mean to that point though, if the
head coach is calling plays.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yes, thank you. Then I would say, here, let's have something, well,
let's have some sense edit the.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
For for example, Kyle Shannan's lost a bunch of coordinators,
Sean mcvay's lost a bunch of coordinators. If you know
Declan Doyle leaves, you know Ben Johnson still calls the plays.
There would be a significant influence of the coach on
the offensive structure and success.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, Detroit, there was the same team this year. I
lost Ben Johnson, right, he was actually calling plays. He
goes to Chicago. Are they the same same team as
last year? No, Ben Johnson's calling plays. He happens to
be really good at it. It makes a difference.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
My god, I just I'm done. I'm done. I don't
want to talk to Cue anymore for this segment. All right,
that's fine, I'm done. Do I have a livery I'm
going to prepare for my life. That's no, you should.
We've ran long on the segment. Take us to break.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Gentlemen, man, come out.
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Speaker 2 (18:40):
Can we at least answer that before he goes as fin?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I think he comes back.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It sounds like he wants to come back.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That was the only damn thing we're trying to get
from the combo of LeVar hijacked it.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, I don't know why LeVar is Patrick Mahomes so much?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Why does he hate Travis Kelsey so much? He's taking
a show.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I know what this is because of the trade we made.
Hey man, We traded Patrick Mahomes for Babe Ruth.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
When y'all, dude, I hate when y'all do this. What
go to break? Man to break? Go to break? Hey?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
And yes, he's getting his offensive coordinator back. He's going
to come back and have a great year, all right.
They're going to be a productive offense, score more points, average,
more yards.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
You know, Patrick Mahomes will be back healthy for week one.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Don't Matter'll be good because there will be enemies back.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
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They're just on some weirdo type stuff right now? Man?
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Charles Bettiaco. He entered the twenty twenty three NBA Draft.
He signed a two way contract with the San Antonio
Spurs twenty twenty three, twenty twenty three, that's.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Correct, So that's hitting on three years now.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
He was playing at Alibama, decided I want to go
enter the NBA draft, signed a two way contract with
the Spurs.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's back.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
He's been granted a temporary restraining order to return to
the Alabama Crimson Tide and college basketball immediately immediately, a
judge ruled on Wednesday. Betty Yaka went undrafted, never appeared
in an NBA game after he played on two NCAA
tournament teams at Alabama in twenty one and twenty twenty two.
(22:28):
He then sued the NCAAA a day earlier after it
denied the school's appeal to allow him to return to
college basketball.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
So he gets the tro and he is back with
the Alabama Crimson.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
How many years does he have to play? Just one?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I mean, who knows at this point.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Seems like he's got two too.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
But he also so he played for the Spurs, Nuggets,
and Pistons in the G League. I mean, it feels
like a player who's maybe exhausting all efforts to keep
the basketball dream alive and it's now realized that the
G League doesn't pay as well hose college basketball does,
which just goes to tell you or show you how
messed up the system is. And it's why I keep
(23:08):
going back to this point that college sports now is
the minor leagues, and that's at every sport. And you
can spare me the whole G League conversation, because if
guys are leaving the G League, which is a professional
like minor league, to the NBA to go back to
college basketball because they get paid more, right, there is
(23:32):
that this function within the system. So at some point
Congress needs to step in. Not that I ever feel
like this is what works to fix something, but I'll
just put it this way. Someone needs to step in
and bring some sanity to all this and say, okay,
let's just let's just reshape your look at this. And
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the problem is the universities are going to have to
admit one of two things. Either they are going to
have to start calling these student athletes employe, which they
don't want to do because it's going to bring up
their costs in every capacity that liability costs you know,
different benefits as well, you know, post career benefit, retirement
and all that stuff, or they're gonna have to hope
(24:16):
and seek this anti trust protection that everyone keeps talking
about where they can then start to shape some rules
without being subject to constantly being sued like this.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Where they have no power.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
But this to me, I know he didn't play in
an NBA game, but he did sign in essence an
NBA contract at least a two way. And you see
two ways in hockey, you see it in basketball and
the pros, And it's like, we're.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Getting to a point, now, what does two way contract mean?
What's the difference? What's is there a one way contract?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
One way is just you signed with an NBA team franchise,
Like like if you know things aren't going well, you're
not getting sent back down to the minors.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
If you're in a two way, you essentially get paid
basically would would equate.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
To be like a minimum salary at the top level,
and then you have the ability to be sent back
down to the minors and play under those conditions.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
It's like options in baseball, like the options.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Okay, okay, I got you. I just it blows me away.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I always thought if you declared and you enter into
you er your name into getting drafted.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
It's a wrap.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
So so let me give you an example of house
this is gonna happen in football. This is what I
would try to do if I was an agent slash player.
My player doesn't get drafted, we're going back. Let's say
what no, no, no, no, no is but he makes the
practice squad. Okay, signs as a free agent, makes the
practice squad, but never makes the active roster. And let's
say he's on practice squads for the next two three years.
(25:46):
I would argue, if he left early and he's got
a year or two of eligibility, why why can't he
go back?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Go back? Yeah, go back? Like you could do this
in football theoretically.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
If you're not good enough at the point time that
you gone to the league and you're going to go back,
try to go back to college now that you can
make money at the college level and you can successfully
do it. While I don't I don't like it, I
don't agree with it, but if you're able to do
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it and get a couple dollars for the next two years,
that can help buy you sometime in entering the workforce
of what you're going to do. Because these guys, these
are the type of guys they can't leave it alone anyway,
Like you're going to see them working out. They're like
I remember I won't say his name, but do do
(26:38):
played when Alan Everson was in school and I saw
him like I don't know, maybe like a little while ago,
and and you know, hey, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
How you been da da da?
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Man?
Speaker 4 (26:50):
You know, just keeping my game right, just seeing if
there's any opportunities out there.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I could back up a couple guys, Like I look
at these guys.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
They're bums these days, Like I'm looking at the dude like, bruh,
you're older than me. Like, these guys are out there.
They can't let it go, they can't let the gang go.
And you're going to get if this becomes a trend
that is you're able to do, you're going to have
just as many washed up athletes trying to do this
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as you do normal athletes going through the normal process.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Like last I checked, college was still developmental for professional
correct Like it's a developmental phase to get you to
the next level.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
So your base always saw college as it's your college
is you go get educated and for football, and you know,
within three years time, if you've done really well. Then
at the end of that third year, midway through the
third year whatever, you're weighing.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Out what your options are.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
So I wouldn't even call development, it's like necessary time serve.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
But yeah, but my point is, so that's the step
that leads you to becoming a professional. It's a necessary step.
And so now you've already mandatory. You already have somebody
who has taken that step, gone professional and then decided
I'm gonna come back, go back. If that's the case,
I'll go back to high school. I guarantee I could
get at least a couple of more plays than I
(28:24):
did when I played nice I.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Didn't play my senior year of high school basketball, So
why not?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
I mean, maybe a set shot. But again, this is
not even almost fifty years old. I'm gonna go get
a set shot going at North Hale's ash. That's out
the North Hales.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
It just it used to be back in the day
to where if look, if you you left like that
was a big decision. It's why you weighed your options,
why I want to leave school or do I want
to go professional?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Because once you left, that is it.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Yes, yes, that was it, and so if you got
to the professional level and your options dried up, you
could go play in Europe. You could go play in
the sea, like you can go do all these other
there were all these other options for you, avenues for
you in the NFL. You've got you know, the XFL,
the USFL, all these other leagues that have come up.
You can go play in Europe. But like now it's yeah, now,
(29:14):
it's nah, just go back to college, like what wait, wait, okay,
And it's apparently that's just the thing now that's going
to college.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
College is running a muck right now.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Man, that's I mean, if you if you really want
to open it up, I mean, college is running a
muck for list students too. How many kids go to
get the undergraduate degree, take on debt to go major
and do something they think they're going to do, and
then they go into the work world and it doesn't
work out the way they thought, or you know, they
they you know, majored in something that they ultimately find
(29:49):
out they don't like.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And what have these kids do?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
They go back to school, they take on more debt,
and then they find themselves again in a position still
trying to find a job. Yes, they more advanced schooling,
but it doesn't play to their benefit.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Like you're overqualified. You got overqualified, but you also don't
have experience. So there's that too, right, So.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Lack of experience overqualified you're going to come in.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, we have kind of.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Ruined not only the college experience, but what its purpose
is for everyone, for a lot of young people, and
even beyond that. It's like extended not just from sports
but also in the students too.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
It's a false scent. Like you said, I mean, you
have a lot more people can buy beer now. It's
pretty sweet for your teammates too, you know, like, hey, Jim,
you're thirty.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Who is the case?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
That's great You're hanging out with eighteen and nineteen year
old Yeah, tripped out. I mean that happens when you're
in the pros. I mean you're twenty one, but I mean,
you know, I guess basketball you could be under twenty one.
I don't know, man, I think it's strange. I really do.
And listen, we talked about how how old Indiana's roster was,
and I know this basketball kid, but I'm looking at
(31:05):
the football side of it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
We're talking about how.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Old they were on Indiana's roster like a bunch of
mature adults on this football And that's not and that's
what and that's kind of what I'm touching on. And
they're not even that old, and they have been in
college the entire time. I just can't even imagine if
a dude has been exposed, which in basketball, basketball pures
(31:31):
be sitting back listening to our show and say, you
don't even understand basketball because you could play against pros
when you're in high school.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
La la, la la la.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
They have these leagues and this, that and the other,
and you're right, basketball has a little bit of a
different feel to it. You can interact and play on
teams and play against and compete against guys that are
in the pros. And a lot of times those guys
go early, so they're young as well. I get that,
But there's still something to be said about living the
lifestyle of a professional athlete. Whether you're in the G
(32:03):
League or you're on the main roster, there's something to
be said about you have transitioned to that phase and
that level of your career and then you go back
to amateurism. That just sounds.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Just bad. It doesn't sound that doesn't sound.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Proper at all, because it does take away from to me,
what the opportunities that are represented by the guys that
are already currently there playing at the school and the
young guys that are trying to get there to play
for those schools. You've taken up one roster spot. And again,
(32:44):
if that becomes prevalent, then how many the transfer portal
is a great example, how many? How many scholarships have
been eaten up from high school kids by the transferred portal?
Why would not happen if I have a guy that
went pro that doesn't want to be pro anymore because
(33:04):
it's not going the way they want it, I'm going
back now knowing that you can do it. Like I
think it's the knowledge and understanding that you can do
it that you're probably going to see us a trend
of athletes trying to do it.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
I've wondered what's happened at the JUCO level, like, because
that used to be like if they're screwed.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
And that's why they're saying you can you can have
your or it doesn't count. Your eligibility doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, exactly, He's exactly right. Well, and that and they're
they're pushing for, like, if you really think about it,
they're pushing for the five years to play five because
they don't even want to have to worry about the
NCAA trying to rule on like you know, different red
shirts and everything else that goes along with that. They're
just saying, screw it, let's just let's just like one
of the rules that came up with, at least in
(33:50):
football was, you know, right now, if you play four games, okay,
want anything over that, you you then burn your red shirt.
But if your teammates to the playoff off, you could
play in every single game and it won't count.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
So theoretically, right like you could you.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Can play in what four games in the playoff if
your team makes it all the way, and you can
basically play more than half a season, but you know
half that would have counted to the red shirt.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
So then they said, well, why don't we make it
nine games? All right?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So now the player can play nine games, and then
if they go into the playoffs again, if they make
a deep run, now he's played an entire season. Yeah, again,
it doesn't count for his eligibility. The like, the the
NCAA is so powerless, and so weak. Not only one
do they like like like they count every record that's
that's been there, every record that's out there, like the fact,
(34:40):
like all that stuff is gone.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
It's all gone out the window.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Like I understand why why people make the argument for
wanting Notre Dame to join a conference or or all other.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Stuff, because we've thrown everything out the window.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
At this point, we're like, yeah, the guy played for
six years, let's count all six years for a stats.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
He's through for a lot of yards. It's like, yeah,
let's let's let him play another year. Does it matter.
We don't want to get sued.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Like the whole thing is such a mess right now.
It's actually incredible to sit back and watch, but it
is sad for the players get caught up and not
finding a scholarship somewhere, not getting that development or getting
that experience, because we're allowing kids who should have to
move on to either pro sports or whatever's next, into
the real world before we actually provide them that opportunity.
(35:24):
Now now we're not allowing these high school kids to be
experienced the same thing.
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Speaker 2 (38:13):
We didn't have like a more updated highlight.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Ah well, let's see.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Let me scour the NBA. See what what NBA? Oh?
I see it is you still want to talk about
the NBA?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
No, absolutely not unless you want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
That was almost a week ago. I was like, all right,
that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I mean, look, they got Kobe Bryant highlights up on
on four letter word or four letter network right now.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
That's a little old, yeah, you know, but it's the
It's it's almost NBA time. So yeah, there you go
and think.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
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Speaker 1 (38:52):
I did, I did say. I send you guys something
about Jennie Buss and.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
The Thrillers go by the way.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Jeanie released a statement based on the ESPN report that
talks about the dysfunction and the family, how angry.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
She was with the sound James and.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
All that and thought he wasn't grateful enough they had
drafted his son and so on and so forth, and
she denied that in a statement said it's a shame that,
in so many words, that he had to be brought
into our family drama. So it feels like the Bus
family's got some issues there. I did like how the
punishment for Lebron James would have been trade him to
(39:33):
the Clippers, like I did like that, Like, you know,
if you're going to trade him anywhere, we'll keep him
in town.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
He doesn't have to move.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
We'll just trade him to the Clippers, which I thought
was disrespectful to them. But yeah, now, not great. A
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I was so happy when you picked ken Walker.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
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The winner came.
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Down to him and Andy Furman, and ultimately Rhodes gets
it done. Now that being said, there's been a lot
of speculation about what the future of Travis Kelsey is
going to be, and he had some thoughts on his
podcast about the recent edition of Eric B Enemy, who
(03:37):
was back. Eric B Enemy spent one season with the
Bears as their running backs coach, and Matt Naggie is
moving on Eric B Enemy's back of the building as oc.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So let's take a listen to Travis Kelsey's response.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I think it's great.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
I think it's a marriage is going to pick up
right where it left off. Eb and who he is
as a coach. You can see kind of his personality,
what he brings to his table in that Chicago team.
I know Ben Johnson has his own version of that.
He's a very tough guy and what he did in
uh in Detroit. He brought over as well, and you
can see those running backs over Chicago and their their
(04:12):
body of work was was definitely Eric b enemy uh
style of football man.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And hell yeah, I can't wait to see him back
in the building.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Man, He's one of He's one of my favorite coaches
of all time, one of my favorite people of all time.
I've had so many unbelievable, you know, growing moments under
him as a as a player, as a person, and uh,
I just love the guy and it's gonna be awesome
to see him back in the building.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Uh, and see him back wearing the chief logo. Baby,
So there we go.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
I was excited to see him back, which they haven't
been a good offense since he left. I know everybody
gave Andy Reid the credit for calling the plays, but
he was there and I think he played a major role.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Didn't won a Super Bowl after he left, well, I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
A lot of people would debate that it was based
upon their defense and now their defense played and how
they have played. I mean, I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Just being there. The enemy was doing well like he left, Like,
here's the reality. The enemy didn't do well. The Chiefs
won a Super Bowl? Like can we stop?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Like I'm just to the reunion be people can have
opinions outside of yours. Pretty okay, that was true there,
Well in your estimation, it wasn't true. A lot of
people would say a lot of people would say Spagnola
and that defense was the catalyst of that team success.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's not a that's not a that's my truth.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
How about I hope Patrick Mahomes go somewhere else so
we can really see that Steve Spagnola defense.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Well, I mean he did go somewhere else because he
hasn't been to Patrick Mahomes that was there early on.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
He hasn't been.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
He wasn't that guy this year, last year, He wasn't
that guy the year before.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He was hurt.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Oh okay, all right, well there you go, he's hurt.
There you go like that. That makes it all better. Facts,
that makes it all better. Patrick Mahomes was hurt, and
and that's it. Like, okay, But what I do know
is Eric b Enemy had a bigger impact on that
offense than what he was giving credit for.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That's what I do know. How about that great they
won a super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I'm totally aware of the fact that they won a
super Bowl, and I'm totally aware of the fact that
the catalyst of their team has been their defense and
whether people want to give them that credit or not,
they haven't been the same since ERICB.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Enemy and the Cheetah left that team done. That's my
that's that's my take on it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Now, you could come in and say what reality is
from your reality, but my reality is a little different
than yours. And that's okay. It's an old book. Just
take a look. It's reading Rainbow. There you go, my
reading Rainbow break take that breake Quin. So my opinion,
while you're in your look, he didn't went to AI.
(06:56):
Let me go to AI. Let me let me go
to AI. I'm not going to are in there go it.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
My opinion is okay, this is a good marriage for
both Eric B. Enemy and obviously some of the players,
guys like Travis Kelcey who missed them and wanted him back.
To say that the Chiefs need him is completely false
and not true. They won a Super Bowl, they won
(07:24):
another AFC championship and lost in the Super Bowl without him.
This is the first year where you saw signs of struggles,
and I would say I'll be curious to see what
happens with their offense next years as Eric Bana me
left and went for other opportunities. I don't think things
worked out in Washington. They didn't work out at UCLA.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
So it is what it is like again.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Sometimes you know, it ends up being the right fit
at a certain spot for all parties involved, and that
could be what this is. So I know Travis Kelsey
is excited about it. I think that the bigger take
wasn't the Eric b Enemy take on this. It's the
fact that everyone thought Travis kels was going to retire,
and he alluded to the way he talked about it,
(08:09):
like you can't wait to see him in that building
and all that, Like, oh, all right, so you're coming back.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Then? That was I thought, actually the.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Bigger take from the SoundBite hmmm, because every TV network
wrote him off like it was the last game he'd
ever play, and it kind of made it sound like,
maybe that's not the case.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
I did my thing on the Travis Kelsey potential retirement
was I just wonder if he looks at it and says, man,
I don't want to go out without Patrick Mahomes, like I,
you know, I don't want, you know, my last catch
as a chief to be from, you know, Chris Aladuke
and I believe is his name, and that's no shade
(08:51):
on him, But I think Travis Kelsey has a storybook potential, storybook.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Ending in his mind.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
He's got he's got his fantasy that he wants in
his mind met and that's with Patrick Mahomes on the
field with him, and he walks off and goes into
the sunset because you know, I think I don't think
he battled the injuries and was as banged up as
he had been in previous years. And so when you
hear him in the way he talks about Eric b Enemy,
it's like, Okay, well, yeah, maybe the window does open.
(09:18):
Maybe Patrick Mahomes starts the season on the pup list
and maybe there's an opportunity for him there. It also,
you know, would indicate that apparently things weren't weren't great
with Matt Naggie. He's now interviewing as the OC and
Philly when he was up for the head coaching job
in Tennessee, and there's not a pathroom to get back
to Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
So coaches go different places and underperform all the time
after having success somewhere prior to that happens.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's not unique.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Sure, Uniquet Mahomes as quarterback, I would love to call
plays for Patrick. Sure, once he became Patrick Mahomes, I
can make a bad play call and I know he's
good enough to overcome that. Well, the same tell the
truth about it, Like Naggy did not get the same
results as as Aerby Enemy as the offensive coordinator, But
(10:06):
yeah he did because they didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
They were ranked, they won a super Bowl, they went
the two. What's their ranking under Naggy?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
What?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
What's their offensive rankings? Doesn't matter if they win a
super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yes, because there's a reason why.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Okay, okay, so so Trent, here's here's the Let's put
Dilpourh in the Hall of Fame. Like, hey, y'all won
the Super Bowl, Trent, You're in the Hall of Fame too.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Everything.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
He's always got a Super Bowl, He's always got a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
He does he always one of the greatest defenses in
the history of the game. Let's put Vince there. Let's
put h McMahon in there. Like, let's wrong, let's go
back to eighty five, Like, let's put McMahon in. Cocky
QB known as it's a great argument when you use
only two cases in the history of the NFL. If
you going though, if you did that the other day, Q,
(10:54):
I learned from the best. You're gonna give me Indiana?
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Who wait?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
What a basketball school?
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Okay, Craig, you gave me one example. I'm giving you two.
I beat you by one.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
What are you talking about when we were discussing the
Duke Blue Devils being a football school and you used
Indiana as an example as well. They are considered to
be a football basketball school as well. I mean, I'm
saying you gave me one extreme example. I gave you
two extreme examples. I'm not not hiding from that. But nonetheless,
(11:30):
Trent Dilfer and what what's what's what's McMahon's first day
at this point, Jim McMahon, Jim McMahon, there you go,
I mean, man or not that. I mean you're saying, oh,
you got Patrick Maholmes. That's you're going to win a
Super Bowl? Like, let's just go work go full circle here? Okay, yes,
seing factful as a play caller.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Okay, that he's now interviewing for other offensive coordinator jobs,
is that fair, right?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
No? It's not fair. I mean, because Andy Reid. That's
the reality of it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
The funny thing about your argument is you're trying to
make an argue about who the OC is, as if
it matters. Reid still calls the plays. Bro That's why
Eric Banamy wanted to go somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh, it doesn't have any.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Okay, So there's no contribution to the success of the offense, because.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Sure, sure there's contribution. I'm not trying to be little
what they're doing. But if Andy Reid calls the plays,
no different than Kyle Shanahan, No that different than Sean McVay,
no different than Kevin O'Connell. Do you think the offensive
coordinator position is as important if the guy who's actually
calling the plays is the head coach?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yes, it is important because of the structure, because of
the execution of it, the implementation of it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And here's what I tell you is the personal relationships
of it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
You can't sit there, You can't sit there in one
instance and say, well, you gotta give Eric bin Me
credit and then not give Matt Naggie credit.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Then can you, well, Catt Naggy was not The offense
was not as productive under mcnaggy as it was under
Eric b enemy.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Right, who didn't call plays.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
And by the way, there was times when it wasn't
as you're saying, both of them didn't call plays correct.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, so it doesn't matter right now. What you're making
is that he's back, like he's gonna make a difference.
It's not gonna make a difference.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Their issue is the pieces around Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I don't buy that. I don't buy that. And the
reason why I don't buy it.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Is but Chelsea isn't the same player.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
He is the same that. I mean, he isn't he's older.
Like that's fine, I don't. I don't have a problem
with debating, like there's no debate on Chelsea is old,
Like it's not he's not the same player. I get that.
But if you're telling me the impact of the o
C on Kansas City has no bearing on their success,
I've never said it doesn't hating you're saying.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It doesn't matter as much if he's not calling the plays.
It's different compared to other organisations with the head coach.
For example, John Harbaugh is the head coach of the
New York Giants. You know what he's not gonna do LeVar.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
He's okay.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So don't you think the offensive coordator matters a little
bit more then?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well in.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
That category, in that instance, it matters more. Yes, that's correct,
you my god. But the behind the scenes is just
as important as the person who's calling the plays.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It's just as important, and it is it is, by
the way, the behind the scenes for both is the same.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
The differences those guys aren't the ones pulling the trigger on.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Game day, which has a significant importance.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I've played for plenty of offensive coordinators who can put
together a good game plan, but when the game starts,
they don't know how.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
To call plays.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Okay, all right, that's like having a defensive coordinator who.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Calls, I am an NFL We're gonna you know, I'm
an NFL vet. You do know that. I've been around
offensive coordinators too. I'm not a quarterback, but i'm pretty
I'm pretty learning.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And you've never been around a defensive coordinator who couldn't
call good defense?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, didn't know what was coming. I wouldn't say couldn't
call put you in a bad spot.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Well, I would say most most head coaches are delegators
of duties, That's what I would say. And if you
want to not delegate play calling because you trust your
play calling instincts better, or take over during the course
of a game because you feel like you can make
a difference more so than what the OC is doing.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Sure, I've been around O c's and d c's that
been that way. I've been around head coaches that way.
You mean, where are you going with this? What do
you mean? What am I saying? Well, you're not even
answering the question. Have you not been with the defensive
coordinator whoere you're like, you see it couldn't keep plays?
I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I don't know that I've ever been around a coordinator
that couldn't call plays, or or a head coach that
couldn't call plays.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I mean, you've never been with a defensive coordinator you
thought was bad at calling defenses?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Well, I thought they were bad coordinators.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
But I mean that's what I wouldn't say, that they
couldn't call plays.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
They called plays. They got the job.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Okay, how many people get a coordinator's job at the
NFL level, at the pro level, I mean, there's only
so many jobs. There's all you got to go through
a very very extensive process from what it looks like.
To get these positions, they had to do something right
to get there. They had to do something right. What
did they do right? Because I don't know. I mean
(16:22):
maybe I just don't know. Maybe I'm just ignorant to it.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Apparently you don't, because like Kevin Patulo, did he do
a good job Philly?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Obviously not one job? Yeah? Then he got fired? Like yeah,
let's give this guy try it doesn't work out? Well, okay, Like.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Well, that opens up a large Then that opens up
a larger conversation because the time. Then that opens up
a larger conversation because to me, you gotta be good
enough to be able to get the job, to mes
enough to get.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Away from any of their ability to get the job
or what their job is.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
When they become an OC. But the reality is, LeVar, if.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
You're not calling a place, the title isn't as powerful.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Hear this, It's just not do you hear what this
young man is going to me? Right now?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
All right, let's move on. Let's move on this younger
generation of guys. Man, I'm telling you, they different, They different, Come.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
On, man, I mean to that point though, if the
head coach is calling plays.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yes, thank you. Then I would say, here, let's have something, well,
let's have some sense edit the.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
For for example, Kyle Shannan's lost a bunch of coordinators,
Sean mcvay's lost a bunch of coordinators. If you know
Declan Doyle leaves, you know Ben Johnson still calls the plays.
There would be a significant influence of the coach on
the offensive structure and success.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, Detroit, there was the same team this year. I
lost Ben Johnson, right, he was actually calling plays. He
goes to Chicago. Are they the same same team as
last year? No, Ben Johnson's calling plays. He happens to
be really good at it. It makes a difference.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
My god, I just I'm done. I'm done. I don't
want to talk to Cue anymore for this segment. All right,
that's fine, I'm done. Do I have a livery I'm
going to prepare for my life. That's no, you should.
We've ran long on the segment. Take us to break.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Gentlemen, man, come out.
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Speaker 2 (18:40):
Can we at least answer that before he goes as fin?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I think he comes back.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It sounds like he wants to come back.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That was the only damn thing we're trying to get
from the combo of LeVar hijacked it.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, I don't know why LeVar is Patrick Mahomes so much?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Why does he hate Travis Kelsey so much? He's taking
a show.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
I know what this is because of the trade we made.
Hey man, We traded Patrick Mahomes for Babe Ruth.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
When y'all, dude, I hate when y'all do this. What
go to break? Man to break? Go to break? Hey?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
And yes, he's getting his offensive coordinator back. He's going
to come back and have a great year, all right.
They're going to be a productive offense, score more points, average,
more yards.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
You know, Patrick Mahomes will be back healthy for week one.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Don't Matter'll be good because there will be enemies back.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
We will.
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Speaker 2 (20:59):
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They're just on some weirdo type stuff right now? Man?
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Charles Bettiaco. He entered the twenty twenty three NBA Draft.
He signed a two way contract with the San Antonio
Spurs twenty twenty three, twenty twenty three, that's.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Correct, So that's hitting on three years now.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
He was playing at Alibama, decided I want to go
enter the NBA draft, signed a two way contract with
the Spurs.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's back.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
He's been granted a temporary restraining order to return to
the Alabama Crimson Tide and college basketball immediately immediately, a
judge ruled on Wednesday. Betty Yaka went undrafted, never appeared
in an NBA game after he played on two NCAA
tournament teams at Alabama in twenty one and twenty twenty two.
(22:28):
He then sued the NCAAA a day earlier after it
denied the school's appeal to allow him to return to
college basketball.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
So he gets the tro and he is back with
the Alabama Crimson.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
How many years does he have to play? Just one?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I mean, who knows at this point.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Seems like he's got two too.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
But he also so he played for the Spurs, Nuggets,
and Pistons in the G League. I mean, it feels
like a player who's maybe exhausting all efforts to keep
the basketball dream alive and it's now realized that the
G League doesn't pay as well hose college basketball does,
which just goes to tell you or show you how
messed up the system is. And it's why I keep
(23:08):
going back to this point that college sports now is
the minor leagues, and that's at every sport. And you
can spare me the whole G League conversation, because if
guys are leaving the G League, which is a professional
like minor league, to the NBA to go back to
college basketball because they get paid more, right, there is
(23:32):
that this function within the system. So at some point
Congress needs to step in. Not that I ever feel
like this is what works to fix something, but I'll
just put it this way. Someone needs to step in
and bring some sanity to all this and say, okay,
let's just let's just reshape your look at this. And
(23:52):
the problem is the universities are going to have to
admit one of two things. Either they are going to
have to start calling these student athletes employe, which they
don't want to do because it's going to bring up
their costs in every capacity that liability costs you know,
different benefits as well, you know, post career benefit, retirement
and all that stuff, or they're gonna have to hope
(24:16):
and seek this anti trust protection that everyone keeps talking
about where they can then start to shape some rules
without being subject to constantly being sued like this.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Where they have no power.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
But this to me, I know he didn't play in
an NBA game, but he did sign in essence an
NBA contract at least a two way. And you see
two ways in hockey, you see it in basketball and
the pros, And it's like, we're.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Getting to a point, now, what does two way contract mean?
What's the difference? What's is there a one way contract?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
One way is just you signed with an NBA team franchise,
Like like if you know things aren't going well, you're
not getting sent back down to the minors.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
If you're in a two way, you essentially get paid
basically would would equate.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
To be like a minimum salary at the top level,
and then you have the ability to be sent back
down to the minors and play under those conditions.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
It's like options in baseball, like the options.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Okay, okay, I got you. I just it blows me away.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I always thought if you declared and you enter into
you er your name into getting drafted.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
It's a wrap.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
So so let me give you an example of house
this is gonna happen in football. This is what I
would try to do if I was an agent slash player.
My player doesn't get drafted, we're going back. Let's say
what no, no, no, no, no is but he makes the
practice squad. Okay, signs as a free agent, makes the
practice squad, but never makes the active roster. And let's
say he's on practice squads for the next two three years.
(25:46):
I would argue, if he left early and he's got
a year or two of eligibility, why why can't he
go back?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Go back? Yeah, go back? Like you could do this
in football theoretically.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
If you're not good enough at the point time that
you gone to the league and you're going to go back,
try to go back to college now that you can
make money at the college level and you can successfully
do it. While I don't I don't like it, I
don't agree with it, but if you're able to do
(26:16):
it and get a couple dollars for the next two years,
that can help buy you sometime in entering the workforce
of what you're going to do. Because these guys, these
are the type of guys they can't leave it alone anyway,
Like you're going to see them working out. They're like
I remember I won't say his name, but do do
(26:38):
played when Alan Everson was in school and I saw
him like I don't know, maybe like a little while ago,
and and you know, hey, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
How you been da da da?
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Man?
Speaker 4 (26:50):
You know, just keeping my game right, just seeing if
there's any opportunities out there.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I could back up a couple guys, Like I look
at these guys.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
They're bums these days, Like I'm looking at the dude like, bruh,
you're older than me. Like, these guys are out there.
They can't let it go, they can't let the gang go.
And you're going to get if this becomes a trend
that is you're able to do, you're going to have
just as many washed up athletes trying to do this
(27:21):
as you do normal athletes going through the normal process.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Like last I checked, college was still developmental for professional
correct Like it's a developmental phase to get you to
the next level.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
So your base always saw college as it's your college
is you go get educated and for football, and you know,
within three years time, if you've done really well. Then
at the end of that third year, midway through the
third year whatever, you're weighing.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Out what your options are.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
So I wouldn't even call development, it's like necessary time serve.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
But yeah, but my point is, so that's the step
that leads you to becoming a professional. It's a necessary step.
And so now you've already mandatory. You already have somebody
who has taken that step, gone professional and then decided
I'm gonna come back, go back. If that's the case,
I'll go back to high school. I guarantee I could
get at least a couple of more plays than I
(28:24):
did when I played nice I.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Didn't play my senior year of high school basketball, So
why not?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
I mean, maybe a set shot. But again, this is
not even almost fifty years old. I'm gonna go get
a set shot going at North Hale's ash. That's out
the North Hales.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
It just it used to be back in the day
to where if look, if you you left like that
was a big decision. It's why you weighed your options,
why I want to leave school or do I want
to go professional?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Because once you left, that is it.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Yes, yes, that was it, and so if you got
to the professional level and your options dried up, you
could go play in Europe. You could go play in
the sea, like you can go do all these other
there were all these other options for you, avenues for
you in the NFL. You've got you know, the XFL,
the USFL, all these other leagues that have come up.
You can go play in Europe. But like now it's yeah, now,
(29:14):
it's nah, just go back to college, like what wait, wait, okay,
And it's apparently that's just the thing now that's going
to college.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
College is running a muck right now.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Man, that's I mean, if you if you really want
to open it up, I mean, college is running a
muck for list students too. How many kids go to
get the undergraduate degree, take on debt to go major
and do something they think they're going to do, and
then they go into the work world and it doesn't
work out the way they thought, or you know, they
they you know, majored in something that they ultimately find
(29:49):
out they don't like.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And what have these kids do?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
They go back to school, they take on more debt,
and then they find themselves again in a position still
trying to find a job. Yes, they more advanced schooling,
but it doesn't play to their benefit.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Like you're overqualified. You got overqualified, but you also don't
have experience. So there's that too, right, So.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Lack of experience overqualified you're going to come in.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, we have kind of.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Ruined not only the college experience, but what its purpose
is for everyone, for a lot of young people, and
even beyond that. It's like extended not just from sports
but also in the students too.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
It's a false scent. Like you said, I mean, you
have a lot more people can buy beer now. It's
pretty sweet for your teammates too, you know, like, hey, Jim,
you're thirty.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Who is the case?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
That's great You're hanging out with eighteen and nineteen year
old Yeah, tripped out. I mean that happens when you're
in the pros. I mean you're twenty one, but I mean,
you know, I guess basketball you could be under twenty one.
I don't know, man, I think it's strange. I really do.
And listen, we talked about how how old Indiana's roster was,
and I know this basketball kid, but I'm looking at
(31:05):
the football side of it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
We're talking about how.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Old they were on Indiana's roster like a bunch of
mature adults on this football And that's not and that's
what and that's kind of what I'm touching on. And
they're not even that old, and they have been in
college the entire time. I just can't even imagine if
a dude has been exposed, which in basketball, basketball pures
(31:31):
be sitting back listening to our show and say, you
don't even understand basketball because you could play against pros
when you're in high school.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
La la, la la la.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
They have these leagues and this, that and the other,
and you're right, basketball has a little bit of a
different feel to it. You can interact and play on
teams and play against and compete against guys that are
in the pros. And a lot of times those guys
go early, so they're young as well. I get that,
But there's still something to be said about living the
lifestyle of a professional athlete. Whether you're in the G
(32:03):
League or you're on the main roster, there's something to
be said about you have transitioned to that phase and
that level of your career and then you go back
to amateurism. That just sounds.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Just bad. It doesn't sound that doesn't sound.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Proper at all, because it does take away from to me,
what the opportunities that are represented by the guys that
are already currently there playing at the school and the
young guys that are trying to get there to play
for those schools. You've taken up one roster spot. And again,
(32:44):
if that becomes prevalent, then how many the transfer portal
is a great example, how many? How many scholarships have
been eaten up from high school kids by the transferred portal?
Why would not happen if I have a guy that
went pro that doesn't want to be pro anymore because
(33:04):
it's not going the way they want it, I'm going
back now knowing that you can do it. Like I
think it's the knowledge and understanding that you can do
it that you're probably going to see us a trend
of athletes trying to do it.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
I've wondered what's happened at the JUCO level, like, because
that used to be like if they're screwed.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
And that's why they're saying you can you can have
your or it doesn't count. Your eligibility doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, exactly, He's exactly right. Well, and that and they're
they're pushing for, like, if you really think about it,
they're pushing for the five years to play five because
they don't even want to have to worry about the
NCAA trying to rule on like you know, different red
shirts and everything else that goes along with that. They're
just saying, screw it, let's just let's just like one
of the rules that came up with, at least in
(33:50):
football was, you know, right now, if you play four games, okay,
want anything over that, you you then burn your red shirt.
But if your teammates to the playoff off, you could
play in every single game and it won't count.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
So theoretically, right like you could you.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Can play in what four games in the playoff if
your team makes it all the way, and you can
basically play more than half a season, but you know
half that would have counted to the red shirt.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
So then they said, well, why don't we make it
nine games? All right?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So now the player can play nine games, and then
if they go into the playoffs again, if they make
a deep run, now he's played an entire season. Yeah, again,
it doesn't count for his eligibility. The like, the the
NCAA is so powerless, and so weak. Not only one
do they like like like they count every record that's
that's been there, every record that's out there, like the fact,
(34:40):
like all that stuff is gone.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
It's all gone out the window.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Like I understand why why people make the argument for
wanting Notre Dame to join a conference or or all other.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Stuff, because we've thrown everything out the window.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
At this point, we're like, yeah, the guy played for
six years, let's count all six years for a stats.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
He's through for a lot of yards. It's like, yeah,
let's let's let him play another year. Does it matter.
We don't want to get sued.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Like the whole thing is such a mess right now.
It's actually incredible to sit back and watch, but it
is sad for the players get caught up and not
finding a scholarship somewhere, not getting that development or getting
that experience, because we're allowing kids who should have to
move on to either pro sports or whatever's next, into
the real world before we actually provide them that opportunity.
(35:24):
Now now we're not allowing these high school kids to be
experienced the same thing.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
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Speaker 3 (36:50):
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Speaker 5 (36:52):
But right now it is time for our Express pros
Pro of the week and the pro of the week
this week goes too.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Sam under Center's gonna hand the ball off coming here,
signs Walker ten five dozen touchdown say Hawks from fifteen
out his second TD tonight, ken Walker the third, and
I don't want to call him a blowout, but right now,
friends the thirty three to six, the Seahawks on top,
(37:21):
and there's still two twenty three to play. In the third,
the handoff Walker, He's coming back to the right side.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
He's gonna score touchdown Seahawks.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
Ken Walker the third skips in around the right side.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Great blocking.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
The Niners haven't stopped it yet.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
His third touchdown of the night, ken Walker, I think
might get a game.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
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Express pros Pro of the Week. Kenneth Walker the third,
nineteen carries one hundred and sixteen yards three touchdowns in
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Speaker 2 (38:13):
We didn't have like a more updated highlight.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Ah well, let's see.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Let me scour the NBA. See what what NBA? Oh?
I see it is you still want to talk about
the NBA?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
No, absolutely not unless you want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
That was almost a week ago. I was like, all right,
that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I mean, look, they got Kobe Bryant highlights up on
on four letter word or four letter network right now.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
That's a little old, yeah, you know, but it's the
It's it's almost NBA time. So yeah, there you go
and think.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
About it started months ago.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I did, I did say. I send you guys something
about Jennie Buss and.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
The Thrillers go by the way.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Jeanie released a statement based on the ESPN report that
talks about the dysfunction and the family, how angry.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
She was with the sound James and.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
All that and thought he wasn't grateful enough they had
drafted his son and so on and so forth, and
she denied that in a statement said it's a shame that,
in so many words, that he had to be brought
into our family drama. So it feels like the Bus
family's got some issues there. I did like how the
punishment for Lebron James would have been trade him to
(39:33):
the Clippers, like I did like that, Like, you know,
if you're going to trade him anywhere, we'll keep him
in town.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
He doesn't have to move.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
We'll just trade him to the Clippers, which I thought
was disrespectful to them. But yeah, now, not great. A
lot of drama going on there with the Bus family.
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Coin just defecated on it.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I was so happy when you picked ken Walker.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Yeah, what about that?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
And you could just I wanted to know what the
other options were. That was it, Patty?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Come on, Niners, come on, I'm really happy about it.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Oh ten dollars ban, Yeah for being a Jonas fan.
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