May 12, 2026 • 40 mins
In Hour 2 of the show, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington discuss the supposed White House proposal to help fix and change a lot of financial aspects in College Football. Plus, the guys discuss Wemby avoiding suspension for his elbow throwing ejection, Tyreek Hill making a football move, and more!!
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score Act that they're trying to get passed. It was
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the third time they're gonna bring this and they're going
to try and get it passed. Nick Saban was brought
in to try and help come up with solutions on
how to fix you know, college.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Sports and what this could look like.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And I think May eighteenth is a day they're going
to present this to the House to try and see
if this can can get passed again. And so there
were some details that came out yesterday about some of
the elements inside this proposal.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
To fix college sports.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
And the following is from Dan Ferman, who broke this
down on X yesterday. So there will be a new
College Sports Reform Task Force, which would replace the NCAA
with real authority. There's an anti trust exemption for the
task Force, the legal protection everyone has been asking for,
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salary caps for coaches and administrators. The most direct federal
intervention into athletics spending ever proposed. There's a crackdown on
cap circumvention, pooled media rights across conferences, a group of
six playoff, separate postseason from mid majors, and rewritten eligibility
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and transfer rules. The portal gets its first real federal framework.
So that is sort of the idea behind this. That
is what they've come up with, and they'll present it
on May teenth to try and get this passed and
we'll see what happens from there.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
So it's a really interesting time in the world of
sports because in one instance, you've got the Score Act,
if you're kind of touching on here, and the proposal
that President Trump as well as Congress is trying to
take on in in regards to college sports, and then
you find yourself with the NFL and some of their
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podcast networks and the battle that they're in right now
in regards to the nineteen sixty one Sports Broadcasting Act,
and they're almost like completely different in sense of that
nineteen sixty one Act allowed professional sports leagues to you know,
pull together their assets, which were the teams to then
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you know, broadly have their media rights, and in college
football we don't have that.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Now they're trying to get to that.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I just don't know if that is like the best
suited way of moving forward with this approach. And the
reason why I say that is, you know, there's in
this proposal seventy five plus schools would opt in for this, Like,
are there seventy five schools that ultimately are that competitive
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and it makes sense to share those resources with even
though it could generate more money. You're going to see
what has been at least in recent years for the
Big Ten or the SEC where they've pulled away from
the rest of the conferences. You'll see other teams take
a hit and they're not gonna be able to generate
quite as much when you're starting to pull it with
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a bigger pool of teams. I also don't know how
I feel about the coaches having a cap on their
earnings if I am a coach and I want to
make as much as I possibly can, which I think
we're all naive to think that. As much as there's
goodwill in coaching and wanting to invest into young people,
there's also an element of I want to be paid too,
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and if I want to make if I want to
be the best, I want to make the most. I'm
not gonna be able to make a lot of money
at the college football level.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
If it's capped.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
So maybe some people are okay with that. I'm not
saying that, I'm not even okay with it. I'm just
saying I think there's gonna be some people who saying,
give me the NFL level where it's not capped, where
I don't have to deal with that, where I can
make more money.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
I mean, one of the reasons.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Why Ohio State has Matt Patricia is he's not capped
as what he's making as a defensive coordinator, and so
he's able to make a boatload of money. Now, some
people would argue that this is going to create an
unleveled playing field because some schools have more money to
pay you their coaching staff.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
But the truth is.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
It's like this in other ways too, even in the NFL,
where we think there's a lot of parody. If you
have an owner who has a lot of cash he
can pay and create a roster that's designed with a
lot of signing bonuses that are pro rated over avoidable
years that just get extended past the actual life of
that player.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
On the team, and we've seen that at times.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
And by the way, if you're a player and you
have the opportunity to go to a bigger market, are
you not going to make more money off the field
in those marketing deals. So there's all sorts of different
incentives or attractions to even at the pro level, those things,
and it's almost like we're trying to like overcorrect with
some of these proposals in the way we're governing this.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
There are some good things to take away from him,
like I would love to see a group of six playoff,
And again no disrespect in James Madison or Tulane who
are part of the playoff last year, but we saw
the end result and I think a lot of people
would agree. There's just it's different in football. There's not
gonna be that Cinderella team that finds its way to win.
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And you might argue and say, hey, Indiana, was that
Cinderella team.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
They played in the Big Ten, they had a lot
of money, you had Mark Cuban helping them. You know,
go get Fernanda Mendoza, Like, I wouldn't call that a
Cinderella team.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
With the money that was thrown around. It's drastically different.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Than when you look at the payroll of what James
Madison was making or Tulaine's making. And just because you know,
provide them some greater resources, it doesn't mean that they're
all of a sudden going to be able to compete
for a national championship. If you put them in a
group of six playoff, no doubt, you know you're gonna
get those teams able to kind of maybe pave their
way through or at least have a much more fun playoff.
And by the way, that'd be awesome to see, you know,
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two different levels of that sort of playoff. So there's
some good to some of this. My concern is there's
really not anything that discusses education, you know, which is
I keep going back to this.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
We are like in this world where we're experimenting with young.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
People and saying it's all about money, it's all about sports,
it's all about we're trying to kind of create these
rules because we're worried about this. There's not really an
educational component in it, with the exception of this player
retention incentive where it allows schools to offer financial rewards
to athletes to stay multiple or consecutive years, and that's
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just in an effort to slow the transfer portal process
or chaos. So I just I look at this, I'm like,
what is happening to the educational component?
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Do we just not care anymore? Is that where we're
at with all this?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
No one cares enough about their higher education and what
may happen to them down the road, and we just
only care about the money.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I think the business of it, the business of it,
says no, they don't care about the educational component of it.
I think internally that that's still a part of it,
because if you're not doing well academically, you won't it's
another reason for you to be cut. Now that cutting
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is a real thing, like you will be sent away,
you will be told to go into the transfer portal,
and you're not going to be able to get through
the portal because you're not going to have the grades
to go somewhere else, So you're going to end up
on your couch at home, community college or or somewhere
where your grades are suitable to the institution that you're
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enrolling in, and most likely your opportunity to play major
college football is dwindling away very quickly. That's what the
trend is right now. So No, on a larger level,
on a larger scale, No, the educational component of it
is not being taken into consideration. It's not something that's
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being put in the proposals that are are being voted on.
But with that being said, these are things that are
being put out there to be voted on. This isn't
a law, This hasn't been passed, This isn't you know,
this hasn't happened. It still has to be voted on
and agreed upon. I think, both by by government and
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by the NCAA. I believe Q you could correct me
if I'm wrong, But I do think that you're going
to see these these major schools, these power force schools,
they're going to fight this, and and I would assume
that they're going to fight it just based upon the
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competitive ad you're able to get when you have a
spoil of riches and resources to be able to invest
into your programs, and and that's what you're going to
you know, that's what you see now. I mean you
see the top co which is they're going to be
at a place like at Ohio State. You saw what
just happened. We just talked about Lane Kiffin in the
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last segment. Lane Kiff, and all he did was reinvent himself,
go turn a power for school into a competitive power
for school, and a whole entire state pulls out the
stops for him to come coach their school. If you
put these limitations on those schools, you can't do that.
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And in fact, you'd have to assume that it works
in favor of mid major mid major schools.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Is that right? Am I saying that right? Mid majors? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So it's like you guys love the match and stuff
like that, Like hell yeah, I mean I would assume
this now would give them an opportunity to have a
pathway to success because in some regards it takes away
the ability to say power. There's a reason why you
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call them the power conferences. And so I don't know
how much that would cripple that that terminology if if
this bill has passed.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
We're only five months away from getting geared up for
a Bowling Green game on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I enjoyed playing against Bowling Green, and I'm a big
fan of Bowling Green. I might go visit them on
campus and hang out at Bowling Green for a week
or so.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Really yeah, okay, yeah, Bowling Green. Yeah, I got you
hell of a head coach man, that's right, want to
only any George Man.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
So long story short here we voiced concerns about it.
It it is an effort to move the ball, you know,
down the field, to try to get to a better
spot in college sports, where I do think we're all
looking at the transfer portal as something that.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
It's been a bit abuse we do.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I do think there's some other things that are including
in this that are going to become necessary, and that
is making sure you sure you have these agents to
be certified. Oftentimes we have people who are representing young
people who are tying them into deals in perpetuity that
are bad for their future, or they don't really know
what they're doing, and there's some bad actors and it'd
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be nice to have some sort of certification process either
by state or even you know, through whatever's created in
this to allow these people representing these kids to have
someone who's educated on this topic and not just again
some guy who's you know, looking to make some money
off of them at a very young age where they're naive,
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or even the family for that matter. So that's that's
one thing too that really hasn't been discussed or talked about,
but it's probably necessary. And again that could get sorted
out if there was a collective bargain agreement, but we're
not really that close to it because again, this is
the just proposed.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Policy and it will probably be challenged in court.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I mean, if I was a coach and I was
one of the thirteen other coaches right now that are
making you know, however, many of them are making over
ten million bucks, I might challenge this and say, like,
we're gonna put the cap at because I've got this
contract and if it goes over, you know, if I
win a national championship and I win all these games,
here are my bonuses, here's my total conversation.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
You're going to cap what I can make? Now, Like,
why should you get.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
To say that, so there will be challenges to a
lot of this, I would say, honestly, you know, outside
of the five years to play five, which apparently everyone's
pushing four again, which goes to show you why none
of this is about education, because it used to be
you would have four years to graduate in.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Four right, that was why the eligibility rules were what
they were, and.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
If you got hurt, if you had an issue, you know,
there was that additional year to red shirt if there
was a developmental portion of it. You know, part of
that red shirting was a safety issue. You were deemed that,
hey you could red shirt, have that additional year. But
in some schools you don't just you're not just awarded
that fifth year. You might be eligible, but the school
had to invite you back, like they have to say, hey,
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we want you. Because once you graduate, you've done exactly
what you signed up for. The university has provided you
what you signed up for. You know, now all that
stuff's kind of got out the window. So yeah, that
that looks like it's going to stick though, and then
you look at the group of six playoffs, I find
that highly entertaining. I would love to see what that
would look like fu Man. It'd be awesome. It'd be awesome,
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and it obviously be more competitive than you know, what
we've seen from at least the lesser teams that have
made it into the college football playoffs.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
And you know, I'm a showcase as well too, not
a not a dismantling against a power for and on
a big stage.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
That'd be fun. I'd be into that.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Yeah, I would like it. Again.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
I know there's gonna be some people who are who
don't really care, you know, don't want to watch it,
but I think it'd be a ton of fun.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Let me on the educational component it. What would be
the solution if you wanted to make education great again?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
You well, again, I prioritize it. I don't know that
everyone else feels this way. So one of the things
that I loved about the rule. One of the things
I loved about the rule initially was when you got
a free transfer once you graduated, because what that did
is it forced young people to say, Okay, I need
to take this seriously and as much as I can
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stay up at school, taking summer school classes and as
many credits as possible. Like players wanted to get their
degree asap because as soon as they got it, then
they could transfer as much as they wanted. So some
kids between what they came in with from high school
and then once they got there, because they just stayed
there the whole time taking classes, they were able to
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get their degree in some cases in three years, maybe
like two and a half years because they came in
with almost a year of credits. So I look at
that and say, like, that to me, is a better
way of doing it, because then once you get them
to the degree, like Okay, you're good, You've got your degree.
You probably got it from one institution because you can't
really transfer in that amount of time and have all
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those credits sync up, as LeVar talked about. So I
like that, like, if we really want to be serious
about education, we care about young people and how they develop,
and then what their long term life looks like once
sports is done and they have something to hang their
hat on, that to be made the most sense. But unfortunately,
again that's got out the window. So I don't think
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we're coming back to that a type.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
So I mean, don't I don't blame because I sometimes
I'll put myself in their shoes and be like, all right,
if I was eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old and all
of a sudden I had that type of money, yeah,
I'd probably let some things slip, you know, I probably would,
and I would look at it and go, I don't
know if I'm ever going to get the opportunity to
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make this money again, So that would be my priority.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And it just does feel like that's sort.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Of where I think that's a tremendously large misconception, but.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
That I think that's a reality.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Though I think it's not a reality because at that age,
at that age, you have to take into reality that one,
your grades have to be good enough for you to
qualify to play in the first place, to get the
scholarship to go there in the first place. Two, I'm
pretty certain it's made abundantly clear behind closed doors by
these coaches that if you don't get your grades, you're
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not going to be on the team. So if you're
not on the team, you can't earn that money. So
while it's not a public conversation in terms of which
it should be a larger public conversation, behind closed doors,
these coaches still have to maintain that standard of educational
accomplishment for their guys just one stay eligible to play
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and for two whatever it is the standard that they're
they're creating as as a coaching staff. If the if
the grades go down and the or the grades are
already down, it still has to be grades that are
acceptable for them to qualify and be eligible to play.
So it's not like I'm not going to class at all. Yeah,
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it's not. That's overstated.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I'm not going to Yes, you're not going to be
a two point eight three point zero, you know, three point.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Five Deans List student.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
That should be what you're pushing guys to want to
be is be academic all Americans, just like you want
to be an athletic all American. But to say that
grades are going to go away all together, that to
to that to where we are right now, that's not
that's not accurate, and that's not accurate for to say
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that a player is thinking, I want to be able
to make more money and I'm focused in on making
more money than I am even getting my grades.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
By the way, the the eligibility minimum for a division
like two to oh, it's two point three two three
two three, which essentially comes out to like a C
plus average, So you're taking five courses you'd have give
or takes a C plus.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
And that's to me, that's always been the conversation is
are you just going to be what what makes it?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Are you just going to be the guy that makes it?
Or is there a standard of you wanting to be
an academic? You know you are a student athlete. I
think student athlete is in jeopardy. Yes, you're right, But
to say at that age, like my son gets better
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grades now, and he was good in college, I mean
in high school and he graduated early.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
And my daughter but all of.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Them, but they all of them, I got all my
kids are pretty break anyway, he gets better grades now
and and and people that go to college should get
better grades because you have more resources in a lot
of situations to be able to do better. It's just
the matter of are you going to put the effort in?
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Are you going to put the time in? And I
think that that's where it comes back to your conversational point.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
If I'm making money, I'm.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Replacing things that I would be doing that's going to
lead to me making money, versus I'm making a lot
of money. So I can go do this, I can
go do that because I have the resources to be
able to spend And I would venture to say, yes,
they are thinking about how are they going to make
more money? But if your grades aren't where they're supposed
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to be, you can find yourself in the doghouse with
the coaching staff. Now that's not something that gets discussed
a lot, but that is a part of it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You do have to get grades.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Yeah, it's a part of it now. And again I
don't know how much of it is a part of
it in the future, which is a little concerning I think.
More than anything else, I just I don't want there
to be this gap of time where we look back
and we say, hey, there was a lot of decision
makers who are in the room and they didn't care
enough to look out for the well being of.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
A lot of these kids because of money.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
And I do get the concept that a lot of
people go to college to figure out what they want
to do in life to make money. And so if
you're already making that as an athlete, then you know,
what's the point. Well, the point is is it's a
very short lived lifespan.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Sure.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
I mean I was on a.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Car ride back when I was talking about club soccer,
for example, with my daughters, and they're probably too young
to hear this, but this is just my perspective. You know,
when you look across those soccer fields and you see
all these kids and all these parents, the truth of
the matter is less than one percent even have a
chance of ever playing pro that are on those fields.
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And so I'm trying to like paint it to visualize
for my kids so they understand the type of work
they got to put in if they want to achieve that.
Because I'm like, if for every one hundred kids there are,
I was like, maybe one, maybe one one day we'll
be able to get to play that in pro I said,
And maybe three we'll get to play D one.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
I said.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
So if you want to be one of those that
one or those three, I go, you got to work
your tailoffs. So anytime someone walks by that field, they
look and they say, oh, that girl's unbelievable, like that
like that's the one, Like that's the girl who's special,
because I said, otherwise, you get caught in the mix,
you know, you get kind of lost in the shuffle.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
And that's just the truth of it.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
And so I look at a proposal, you know, like this,
and I just I feel like there's so much more
to life after sport.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Sport teaches you so much.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
But at the same time, you know, we can't just
make it about the short term for these kids in
college because.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
They are making good money. You know it's not going
to last them.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
So we've got to prepare them for the future and
for whatever that next thing would be.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
And there's and none of this doesn't really talk about.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
That education really creates that that level of accomplishment, it
creates a level of prestige. It's very real. Being educated
is very it's a very real thing. And if you're
not educated, you find out you find out give it
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a little bit of time, once you're done playing the game,
and you find out that your relevance subsides very quickly.
You start to like, for me, I'd say, and I
know we're up against it, but I just say, it
is a false sense of self worth to think that
your worth is purely rooted in the idea that you
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can throw a ball, you can catch a ball, you
can make a tackle, you can run routes, you can
pass rush. It's a very very false sense of identity
of who you are. Education is something that allows for
you to be able to navigate this world in a
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way where you can go in the rooms and you
can have the confidence and you can have the understanding
of how it is you're supposed to handle yourself in
those moments. That's what the education is about. And I
think that that's something that again within our conversation, it's
very important to understand that me being able to body
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slam somebody on the football field is not going to
necessarily translate into the rooms that I go into now,
so tell me about it.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I left a kneecap on the ground in Illinois, you
know in a basketball game.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
You have to learn that lesson. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
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Speaker 3 (25:33):
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we did have a clarification and confirmation of somebody getting
something done right in the world of sports, and that's
somebody is the NBA. There will be no further punishment
for Victor webin Yama. All right, guy through an elbow,
(27:37):
all right, made his point, got kicked out of the game.
No fine, no suspension. He'll be back for a pivotal
Game five for the San Antonio Spurs. Bravo by the
NBA not overreacting to all this. I'm proud of them.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
All right.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Where do you guys stand on this good move or
bad move by the National Basketball alituation.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I think it's a good move. I think it happened
again like when we were talking about it. You get
like points, and he got two points awarded to him
for the elbow was a two point elbow, but generally
I guess you got to get four points in order
(28:20):
to face a suspension. And also I don't think it
was malicious, right, Like, I think he did it and
he probably meant to make contact with it as well,
that's why he threw it. Yeah, but I don't think
that it was an.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Elbow where you would be like that.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Cut the man's face open, like like threw it in
a way where it was horrible intentions connected to it.
You need to suspend him, you need to find him.
I don't think that that's what it was. So I
think they got it right. They got it right.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
I mean, if anything, you know, he did them a solid.
He made the series more interesting. Minnesota shorthanded. He gave
himself a little bit of an edge. The big knock
on him is too nice of a guy. There was
a clip where he went to his first All Star
Game last year or.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
The year before whatever that is now the All Star Game.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
And Jokic was in the locker room looking at him
as he pulled a book out of his bag and said,
you bring a book with you, he goes, Yeah, I
read every day, and he just kind of shook his head.
Wemby needed an edge. Okay, there's not an ounce of
fat on his body. He's forty five feet tall. He
needed something to kind of give him a little bit
(29:39):
of a mean streak, and so he throws an elbow.
He did his part, and it was the second quarter
of the game. He missed the rest of the game.
That was punishment enough, and he's not going to be
punished any further.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Good for him.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
It's like the Jalen Carter spitting on dak in the
first quarter of the game. They're like, well, he's not
going to be suspended anymore. Well, he basically missed the
He missed the entire game.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
That was suspension right there.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
So yeah, I think the the NBA did did the
right thing here. We don't need to overreact, all right,
he threw an elbow. We're all good here.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
It was a common foul back in the day, and
now we're back and ready to go for Game five.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
It was a common foul. Yeah, it was a common practice. Yeah,
it wasn't even a common it's just a common practice
with no elbow pad on and then back then they didn't
even have elbow pads. They just throw we have an
elbow pad, yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
So you go back and look at the clip. I
think he's got an elbow pad on? Does he really? Yeah?
I think so? No, he does?
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Was it wasn't a DonJoy? Was something close to that?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
He really? Almost positive? Man, I don't know. Let me
see wemby elbow uh where.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
It's a French brand because he's a French.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
It's like an arm sleeve. You know, I'm gonna call
it an elbow it does it? Yeah? Okay? I mean
it's probably a straw for being honest.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But that definitely takes the the meter down.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah. I mean if it was an exposed elbow.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, all right, he might have cut him up and
then the optics of it is really really bad.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I didn't even realize that. That's very good attention to details, man,
That's what I'm doing here. I wouldn't call that an
elbow pad.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I mean, if it's kind of pad on it, I
guess he's protecting his elbow or it looks like a
sleeve to me.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
But all right, I mean in the old school context.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Of an elbow pad, you know, elbow pad looks a
little different, like they're a little bit more bigger, you know,
bigger padding, And I guess everybody wants it all small
these days.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Like those Eric Dickerson pads. Back in the day, he
was all geared of everything, like Elijah Whan. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Or Patrick Ewing. That's right, Patrick Ewing put the sleeves
on and put the elbow pads or the knee pads on.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Top of him.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, you bought him. It was a combo pack. He
got the knees and elbows in one pack, a little
four piece. It's great man throwing the padded elbow.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
No, there you go. Yeah, good for him.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I think that makes it even more less egregious, right,
Like he hit him with a pad, like, come on, nas,
what you falling back for? He popped him pretty good, though,
did he?
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Okay, yeah, well look he it was with the pad. Yeah,
but listen, you know there was no no blood and
no swelling.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah. By the way, not naz Reed is nearly six'
ten and it looks.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Tiny it was at his. Elbow, yeah that's why he
got elbowed in the. Face he was he was he
was elbow length or elbow height to. Him that's, right.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
That's, Right, brady okay with? This no further punishment For
Victor Webman? Yama is that okay with?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You?
Speaker 6 (33:04):
YEAH i don't think it really warranted. THAT i do
think there's.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
A there's a counter argument to, It LIKE i personally don't,
care BUT i could see if someone's, like, oh they
if they don't set a, precedent you, know they don't suspend,
him then other guys can just get away with throwing.
Bows it's also, like what if you throw because because
part of the reason WHY i think we'd all agree
he shouldn't be suspended because of when it took place
in the.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Game is that? Fair?
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Yeah, yeah, okay so what was of it takes place
the next time with like two minutes left in the fourth,
Quarter so, yeah the guy gets. Ejected but are they
gonna review that that situation different and, say, well he
only missed two minutes of this, game he probably should
miss the next. One, LIKE i don't know how they're
going to handle. That so there is there's an element.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
OF i think they're gonna they will measure and weigh
it out in terms of one, again if he's got
a history of, it like if he accumulated, points like
he's done this for, Sure sure it's a no it's
a no brainer that he's going to get that what you're,
saying like he did it in the fourth, quarter this
is something that he's done before in, History like, yeah
(34:09):
he's going to get suspended for that next, game but
he doesn't have a history of.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
It and and so, YEAH i think it's.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
That's more by you, know reputation and what you've earned
versus like, okay.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yeah but okay a president and that plays a. Role
that plays a. Role BUT i think if if you're
if we just go back through an, era like when
we were watching THE nba and you have to, PLAYOFFS
i always thought it got more, physical not. Less and
so in the, NINETIES i mean it was a grudge match,
anyway and then when you got.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
In the, playoffs it's, like well they're not really calling it.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
As it, is so like you better if you're going
to the, rack you better you, know cover up and
expect to get. Hit so there is an element to
me of it is the. Playoffs this is the pinnacle
of your, sport and at some point there's be a
precedent set regardless even of their history or, reputation because
(35:06):
you don't want someone else to do it. Too now,
AGAIN i don't think that's this area of, basketball SO
i don't think THE nba has to worry about. That
BUT i could see, how you, know if it happens
in the first quarter versus the fourth quarter or something,
else how that could change this situation.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
And the way it's.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Handled but he missed enough, time and, HONESTLY i mean
it was somewhat, egregious BUT i don't feel.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
Like he went all in LIKE ufc style.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
On him with the, bows you, know send a, message you,
know stop messing with me, man all, right stop stop
trying to take liberties, here all, right and he'll be
back for a pivotal game five, which by the, way
let me get a number for you. Guys it is THE,
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Speaker 4 (36:07):
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and he seems to be a very competitive, guy is
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obviously they're over there hanging. Out at what point is
the guy do you bring? Up, hey let's do a football,
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know the, lips, chest the butt. DONE i, mean it's
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(02:08):
the third time they're gonna bring this and they're going
to try and get it passed. Nick Saban was brought
in to try and help come up with solutions on
how to fix you know, college.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Sports and what this could look like.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And I think May eighteenth is a day they're going
to present this to the House to try and see
if this can can get passed again. And so there
were some details that came out yesterday about some of
the elements inside this proposal.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
To fix college sports.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
And the following is from Dan Ferman, who broke this
down on X yesterday. So there will be a new
College Sports Reform Task Force, which would replace the NCAA
with real authority. There's an anti trust exemption for the
task Force, the legal protection everyone has been asking for,
(03:01):
salary caps for coaches and administrators. The most direct federal
intervention into athletics spending ever proposed. There's a crackdown on
cap circumvention, pooled media rights across conferences, a group of
six playoff, separate postseason from mid majors, and rewritten eligibility
(03:22):
and transfer rules. The portal gets its first real federal framework.
So that is sort of the idea behind this. That
is what they've come up with, and they'll present it
on May teenth to try and get this passed and
we'll see what happens from there.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
So it's a really interesting time in the world of
sports because in one instance, you've got the Score Act,
if you're kind of touching on here, and the proposal
that President Trump as well as Congress is trying to
take on in in regards to college sports, and then
you find yourself with the NFL and some of their
(04:00):
podcast networks and the battle that they're in right now
in regards to the nineteen sixty one Sports Broadcasting Act,
and they're almost like completely different in sense of that
nineteen sixty one Act allowed professional sports leagues to you know,
pull together their assets, which were the teams to then
(04:23):
you know, broadly have their media rights, and in college
football we don't have that.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Now they're trying to get to that.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I just don't know if that is like the best
suited way of moving forward with this approach. And the
reason why I say that is, you know, there's in
this proposal seventy five plus schools would opt in for this, Like,
are there seventy five schools that ultimately are that competitive
(04:52):
and it makes sense to share those resources with even
though it could generate more money. You're going to see
what has been at least in recent years for the
Big Ten or the SEC where they've pulled away from
the rest of the conferences. You'll see other teams take
a hit and they're not gonna be able to generate
quite as much when you're starting to pull it with
(05:12):
a bigger pool of teams. I also don't know how
I feel about the coaches having a cap on their
earnings if I am a coach and I want to
make as much as I possibly can, which I think
we're all naive to think that. As much as there's
goodwill in coaching and wanting to invest into young people,
there's also an element of I want to be paid too,
(05:35):
and if I want to make if I want to
be the best, I want to make the most. I'm
not gonna be able to make a lot of money
at the college football level.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
If it's capped.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
So maybe some people are okay with that. I'm not
saying that, I'm not even okay with it. I'm just
saying I think there's gonna be some people who saying,
give me the NFL level where it's not capped, where
I don't have to deal with that, where I can
make more money.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
I mean, one of the reasons.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Why Ohio State has Matt Patricia is he's not capped
as what he's making as a defensive coordinator, and so
he's able to make a boatload of money. Now, some
people would argue that this is going to create an
unleveled playing field because some schools have more money to
pay you their coaching staff.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
But the truth is.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
It's like this in other ways too, even in the NFL,
where we think there's a lot of parody. If you
have an owner who has a lot of cash he
can pay and create a roster that's designed with a
lot of signing bonuses that are pro rated over avoidable
years that just get extended past the actual life of
that player.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
On the team, and we've seen that at times.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
And by the way, if you're a player and you
have the opportunity to go to a bigger market, are
you not going to make more money off the field
in those marketing deals. So there's all sorts of different
incentives or attractions to even at the pro level, those things,
and it's almost like we're trying to like overcorrect with
some of these proposals in the way we're governing this.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
There are some good things to take away from him,
like I would love to see a group of six playoff,
And again no disrespect in James Madison or Tulane who
are part of the playoff last year, but we saw
the end result and I think a lot of people
would agree. There's just it's different in football. There's not
gonna be that Cinderella team that finds its way to win.
(07:20):
And you might argue and say, hey, Indiana, was that
Cinderella team.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
They played in the Big Ten, they had a lot
of money, you had Mark Cuban helping them. You know,
go get Fernanda Mendoza, Like, I wouldn't call that a
Cinderella team.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
With the money that was thrown around. It's drastically different.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Than when you look at the payroll of what James
Madison was making or Tulaine's making. And just because you know,
provide them some greater resources, it doesn't mean that they're
all of a sudden going to be able to compete
for a national championship. If you put them in a
group of six playoff, no doubt, you know you're gonna
get those teams able to kind of maybe pave their
way through or at least have a much more fun playoff.
And by the way, that'd be awesome to see, you know,
(07:58):
two different levels of that sort of playoff. So there's
some good to some of this. My concern is there's
really not anything that discusses education, you know, which is
I keep going back to this.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
We are like in this world where we're experimenting with young.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
People and saying it's all about money, it's all about sports,
it's all about we're trying to kind of create these
rules because we're worried about this. There's not really an
educational component in it, with the exception of this player
retention incentive where it allows schools to offer financial rewards
to athletes to stay multiple or consecutive years, and that's
(08:36):
just in an effort to slow the transfer portal process
or chaos. So I just I look at this, I'm like,
what is happening to the educational component?
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Do we just not care anymore? Is that where we're
at with all this?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
No one cares enough about their higher education and what
may happen to them down the road, and we just
only care about the money.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I think the business of it, the business of it,
says no, they don't care about the educational component of it.
I think internally that that's still a part of it,
because if you're not doing well academically, you won't it's
another reason for you to be cut. Now that cutting
(09:18):
is a real thing, like you will be sent away,
you will be told to go into the transfer portal,
and you're not going to be able to get through
the portal because you're not going to have the grades
to go somewhere else, So you're going to end up
on your couch at home, community college or or somewhere
where your grades are suitable to the institution that you're
(09:40):
enrolling in, and most likely your opportunity to play major
college football is dwindling away very quickly. That's what the
trend is right now. So No, on a larger level,
on a larger scale, No, the educational component of it
is not being taken into consideration. It's not something that's
(10:02):
being put in the proposals that are are being voted on.
But with that being said, these are things that are
being put out there to be voted on. This isn't
a law, This hasn't been passed, This isn't you know,
this hasn't happened. It still has to be voted on
and agreed upon. I think, both by by government and
(10:24):
by the NCAA. I believe Q you could correct me
if I'm wrong, But I do think that you're going
to see these these major schools, these power force schools,
they're going to fight this, and and I would assume
that they're going to fight it just based upon the
(10:45):
competitive ad you're able to get when you have a
spoil of riches and resources to be able to invest
into your programs, and and that's what you're going to
you know, that's what you see now. I mean you
see the top co which is they're going to be
at a place like at Ohio State. You saw what
just happened. We just talked about Lane Kiffin in the
(11:05):
last segment. Lane Kiff, and all he did was reinvent himself,
go turn a power for school into a competitive power
for school, and a whole entire state pulls out the
stops for him to come coach their school. If you
put these limitations on those schools, you can't do that.
(11:28):
And in fact, you'd have to assume that it works
in favor of mid major mid major schools.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Is that right? Am I saying that right? Mid majors? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So it's like you guys love the match and stuff
like that, Like hell yeah, I mean I would assume
this now would give them an opportunity to have a
pathway to success because in some regards it takes away
the ability to say power. There's a reason why you
(12:02):
call them the power conferences. And so I don't know
how much that would cripple that that terminology if if
this bill has passed.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
We're only five months away from getting geared up for
a Bowling Green game on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I enjoyed playing against Bowling Green, and I'm a big
fan of Bowling Green. I might go visit them on
campus and hang out at Bowling Green for a week
or so.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Really yeah, okay, yeah, Bowling Green. Yeah, I got you
hell of a head coach man, that's right, want to
only any George Man.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
So long story short here we voiced concerns about it.
It it is an effort to move the ball, you know,
down the field, to try to get to a better
spot in college sports, where I do think we're all
looking at the transfer portal as something that.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
It's been a bit abuse we do.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I do think there's some other things that are including
in this that are going to become necessary, and that
is making sure you sure you have these agents to
be certified. Oftentimes we have people who are representing young
people who are tying them into deals in perpetuity that
are bad for their future, or they don't really know
what they're doing, and there's some bad actors and it'd
(13:24):
be nice to have some sort of certification process either
by state or even you know, through whatever's created in
this to allow these people representing these kids to have
someone who's educated on this topic and not just again
some guy who's you know, looking to make some money
off of them at a very young age where they're naive,
(13:45):
or even the family for that matter. So that's that's
one thing too that really hasn't been discussed or talked about,
but it's probably necessary. And again that could get sorted
out if there was a collective bargain agreement, but we're
not really that close to it because again, this is
the just proposed.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Policy and it will probably be challenged in court.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I mean, if I was a coach and I was
one of the thirteen other coaches right now that are
making you know, however, many of them are making over
ten million bucks, I might challenge this and say, like,
we're gonna put the cap at because I've got this
contract and if it goes over, you know, if I
win a national championship and I win all these games,
here are my bonuses, here's my total conversation.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
You're going to cap what I can make? Now, Like,
why should you get.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
To say that, so there will be challenges to a
lot of this, I would say, honestly, you know, outside
of the five years to play five, which apparently everyone's
pushing four again, which goes to show you why none
of this is about education, because it used to be
you would have four years to graduate in.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Four right, that was why the eligibility rules were what
they were, and.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
If you got hurt, if you had an issue, you know,
there was that additional year to red shirt if there
was a developmental portion of it. You know, part of
that red shirting was a safety issue. You were deemed that,
hey you could red shirt, have that additional year. But
in some schools you don't just you're not just awarded
that fifth year. You might be eligible, but the school
had to invite you back, like they have to say, hey,
(15:08):
we want you. Because once you graduate, you've done exactly
what you signed up for. The university has provided you
what you signed up for. You know, now all that
stuff's kind of got out the window. So yeah, that
that looks like it's going to stick though, and then
you look at the group of six playoffs, I find
that highly entertaining. I would love to see what that
would look like fu Man. It'd be awesome. It'd be awesome,
(15:30):
and it obviously be more competitive than you know, what
we've seen from at least the lesser teams that have
made it into the college football playoffs.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
And you know, I'm a showcase as well too, not
a not a dismantling against a power for and on
a big stage.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
That'd be fun. I'd be into that.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Yeah, I would like it. Again.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
I know there's gonna be some people who are who
don't really care, you know, don't want to watch it,
but I think it'd be a ton of fun.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Let me on the educational component it. What would be
the solution if you wanted to make education great again?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
You well, again, I prioritize it. I don't know that
everyone else feels this way. So one of the things
that I loved about the rule. One of the things
I loved about the rule initially was when you got
a free transfer once you graduated, because what that did
is it forced young people to say, Okay, I need
to take this seriously and as much as I can
(16:27):
stay up at school, taking summer school classes and as
many credits as possible. Like players wanted to get their
degree asap because as soon as they got it, then
they could transfer as much as they wanted. So some
kids between what they came in with from high school
and then once they got there, because they just stayed
there the whole time taking classes, they were able to
(16:47):
get their degree in some cases in three years, maybe
like two and a half years because they came in
with almost a year of credits. So I look at
that and say, like, that to me, is a better
way of doing it, because then once you get them
to the degree, like Okay, you're good, You've got your degree.
You probably got it from one institution because you can't
really transfer in that amount of time and have all
(17:07):
those credits sync up, as LeVar talked about. So I
like that, like, if we really want to be serious
about education, we care about young people and how they develop,
and then what their long term life looks like once
sports is done and they have something to hang their
hat on, that to be made the most sense. But unfortunately,
again that's got out the window. So I don't think
(17:27):
we're coming back to that a type.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
So I mean, don't I don't blame because I sometimes
I'll put myself in their shoes and be like, all right,
if I was eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old and all
of a sudden I had that type of money, yeah,
I'd probably let some things slip, you know, I probably would,
and I would look at it and go, I don't
know if I'm ever going to get the opportunity to
(17:49):
make this money again, So that would be my priority.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And it just does feel like that's sort.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Of where I think that's a tremendously large misconception, but.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
That I think that's a reality.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Though I think it's not a reality because at that age,
at that age, you have to take into reality that one,
your grades have to be good enough for you to
qualify to play in the first place, to get the
scholarship to go there in the first place. Two, I'm
pretty certain it's made abundantly clear behind closed doors by
these coaches that if you don't get your grades, you're
(18:25):
not going to be on the team. So if you're
not on the team, you can't earn that money. So
while it's not a public conversation in terms of which
it should be a larger public conversation, behind closed doors,
these coaches still have to maintain that standard of educational
accomplishment for their guys just one stay eligible to play
(18:49):
and for two whatever it is the standard that they're
they're creating as as a coaching staff. If the if
the grades go down and the or the grades are
already down, it still has to be grades that are
acceptable for them to qualify and be eligible to play.
So it's not like I'm not going to class at all. Yeah,
(19:10):
it's not. That's overstated.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I'm not going to Yes, you're not going to be
a two point eight three point zero, you know, three point.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Five Deans List student.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
That should be what you're pushing guys to want to
be is be academic all Americans, just like you want
to be an athletic all American. But to say that
grades are going to go away all together, that to
to that to where we are right now, that's not
that's not accurate, and that's not accurate for to say
(19:41):
that a player is thinking, I want to be able
to make more money and I'm focused in on making
more money than I am even getting my grades.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
By the way, the the eligibility minimum for a division
like two to oh, it's two point three two three
two three, which essentially comes out to like a C
plus average, So you're taking five courses you'd have give
or takes a C plus.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
And that's to me, that's always been the conversation is
are you just going to be what what makes it?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Are you just going to be the guy that makes it?
Or is there a standard of you wanting to be
an academic? You know you are a student athlete. I
think student athlete is in jeopardy. Yes, you're right, But
to say at that age, like my son gets better
(20:34):
grades now, and he was good in college, I mean
in high school and he graduated early.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
And my daughter but all of.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Them, but they all of them, I got all my
kids are pretty break anyway, he gets better grades now
and and and people that go to college should get
better grades because you have more resources in a lot
of situations to be able to do better. It's just
the matter of are you going to put the effort in?
(21:04):
Are you going to put the time in? And I
think that that's where it comes back to your conversational point.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
If I'm making money, I'm.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Replacing things that I would be doing that's going to
lead to me making money, versus I'm making a lot
of money. So I can go do this, I can
go do that because I have the resources to be
able to spend And I would venture to say, yes,
they are thinking about how are they going to make
more money? But if your grades aren't where they're supposed
(21:34):
to be, you can find yourself in the doghouse with
the coaching staff. Now that's not something that gets discussed
a lot, but that is a part of it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You do have to get grades.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Yeah, it's a part of it now. And again I
don't know how much of it is a part of
it in the future, which is a little concerning I think.
More than anything else, I just I don't want there
to be this gap of time where we look back
and we say, hey, there was a lot of decision
makers who are in the room and they didn't care
enough to look out for the well being of.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
A lot of these kids because of money.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
And I do get the concept that a lot of
people go to college to figure out what they want
to do in life to make money. And so if
you're already making that as an athlete, then you know,
what's the point. Well, the point is is it's a
very short lived lifespan.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Sure.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
I mean I was on a.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Car ride back when I was talking about club soccer,
for example, with my daughters, and they're probably too young
to hear this, but this is just my perspective. You know,
when you look across those soccer fields and you see
all these kids and all these parents, the truth of
the matter is less than one percent even have a
chance of ever playing pro that are on those fields.
(22:44):
And so I'm trying to like paint it to visualize
for my kids so they understand the type of work
they got to put in if they want to achieve that.
Because I'm like, if for every one hundred kids there are,
I was like, maybe one, maybe one one day we'll
be able to get to play that in pro I said,
And maybe three we'll get to play D one.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
I said.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
So if you want to be one of those that
one or those three, I go, you got to work
your tailoffs. So anytime someone walks by that field, they
look and they say, oh, that girl's unbelievable, like that
like that's the one, Like that's the girl who's special,
because I said, otherwise, you get caught in the mix,
you know, you get kind of lost in the shuffle.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
And that's just the truth of it.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
And so I look at a proposal, you know, like this,
and I just I feel like there's so much more
to life after sport.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Sport teaches you so much.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
But at the same time, you know, we can't just
make it about the short term for these kids in
college because.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
They are making good money. You know it's not going
to last them.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
So we've got to prepare them for the future and
for whatever that next thing would be.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
And there's and none of this doesn't really talk about.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
That education really creates that that level of accomplishment, it
creates a level of prestige. It's very real. Being educated
is very it's a very real thing. And if you're
not educated, you find out you find out give it
(24:10):
a little bit of time, once you're done playing the game,
and you find out that your relevance subsides very quickly.
You start to like, for me, I'd say, and I
know we're up against it, but I just say, it
is a false sense of self worth to think that
your worth is purely rooted in the idea that you
(24:34):
can throw a ball, you can catch a ball, you
can make a tackle, you can run routes, you can
pass rush. It's a very very false sense of identity
of who you are. Education is something that allows for
you to be able to navigate this world in a
(24:55):
way where you can go in the rooms and you
can have the confidence and you can have the understanding
of how it is you're supposed to handle yourself in
those moments. That's what the education is about. And I
think that that's something that again within our conversation, it's
very important to understand that me being able to body
(25:15):
slam somebody on the football field is not going to
necessarily translate into the rooms that I go into now,
so tell me about it.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I left a kneecap on the ground in Illinois, you
know in a basketball game.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
You have to learn that lesson. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
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we did have a clarification and confirmation of somebody getting
something done right in the world of sports, and that's
somebody is the NBA. There will be no further punishment
for Victor webin Yama. All right, guy through an elbow,
(27:37):
all right, made his point, got kicked out of the game.
No fine, no suspension. He'll be back for a pivotal
Game five for the San Antonio Spurs. Bravo by the
NBA not overreacting to all this. I'm proud of them.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
All right.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Where do you guys stand on this good move or
bad move by the National Basketball alituation.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I think it's a good move. I think it happened
again like when we were talking about it. You get
like points, and he got two points awarded to him
for the elbow was a two point elbow, but generally
I guess you got to get four points in order
(28:20):
to face a suspension. And also I don't think it
was malicious, right, Like, I think he did it and
he probably meant to make contact with it as well,
that's why he threw it. Yeah, but I don't think
that it was an.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Elbow where you would be like that.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Cut the man's face open, like like threw it in
a way where it was horrible intentions connected to it.
You need to suspend him, you need to find him.
I don't think that that's what it was. So I
think they got it right. They got it right.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
I mean, if anything, you know, he did them a solid.
He made the series more interesting. Minnesota shorthanded. He gave
himself a little bit of an edge. The big knock
on him is too nice of a guy. There was
a clip where he went to his first All Star
Game last year or.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
The year before whatever that is now the All Star Game.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
And Jokic was in the locker room looking at him
as he pulled a book out of his bag and said,
you bring a book with you, he goes, Yeah, I
read every day, and he just kind of shook his head.
Wemby needed an edge. Okay, there's not an ounce of
fat on his body. He's forty five feet tall. He
needed something to kind of give him a little bit
(29:39):
of a mean streak, and so he throws an elbow.
He did his part, and it was the second quarter
of the game. He missed the rest of the game.
That was punishment enough, and he's not going to be
punished any further.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Good for him.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
It's like the Jalen Carter spitting on dak in the
first quarter of the game. They're like, well, he's not
going to be suspended anymore. Well, he basically missed the
He missed the entire game.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
That was suspension right there.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
So yeah, I think the the NBA did did the
right thing here. We don't need to overreact, all right,
he threw an elbow. We're all good here.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
It was a common foul back in the day, and
now we're back and ready to go for Game five.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
It was a common foul. Yeah, it was a common practice. Yeah,
it wasn't even a common it's just a common practice
with no elbow pad on and then back then they didn't
even have elbow pads. They just throw we have an
elbow pad, yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
So you go back and look at the clip. I
think he's got an elbow pad on? Does he really? Yeah?
I think so? No, he does?
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Was it wasn't a DonJoy? Was something close to that?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
He really? Almost positive? Man, I don't know. Let me
see wemby elbow uh where.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
It's a French brand because he's a French.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
It's like an arm sleeve. You know, I'm gonna call
it an elbow it does it? Yeah? Okay? I mean
it's probably a straw for being honest.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But that definitely takes the the meter down.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah. I mean if it was an exposed elbow.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, all right, he might have cut him up and
then the optics of it is really really bad.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I didn't even realize that. That's very good attention to details, man,
That's what I'm doing here. I wouldn't call that an
elbow pad.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I mean, if it's kind of pad on it, I
guess he's protecting his elbow or it looks like a
sleeve to me.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
But all right, I mean in the old school context.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Of an elbow pad, you know, elbow pad looks a
little different, like they're a little bit more bigger, you know,
bigger padding, And I guess everybody wants it all small
these days.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Like those Eric Dickerson pads. Back in the day, he
was all geared of everything, like Elijah Whan. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Or Patrick Ewing. That's right, Patrick Ewing put the sleeves
on and put the elbow pads or the knee pads on.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Top of him.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, you bought him. It was a combo pack. He
got the knees and elbows in one pack, a little
four piece. It's great man throwing the padded elbow.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
No, there you go. Yeah, good for him.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I think that makes it even more less egregious, right,
Like he hit him with a pad, like, come on, nas,
what you falling back for? He popped him pretty good, though,
did he?
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Okay, yeah, well look he it was with the pad. Yeah,
but listen, you know there was no no blood and
no swelling.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah. By the way, not naz Reed is nearly six'
ten and it looks.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Tiny it was at his. Elbow, yeah that's why he
got elbowed in the. Face he was he was he
was elbow length or elbow height to. Him that's, right.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
That's, Right, brady okay with? This no further punishment For
Victor Webman? Yama is that okay with?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You?
Speaker 6 (33:04):
YEAH i don't think it really warranted. THAT i do
think there's.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
A there's a counter argument to, It LIKE i personally don't,
care BUT i could see if someone's, like, oh they
if they don't set a, precedent you, know they don't suspend,
him then other guys can just get away with throwing.
Bows it's also, like what if you throw because because
part of the reason WHY i think we'd all agree
he shouldn't be suspended because of when it took place
in the.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Game is that? Fair?
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Yeah, yeah, okay so what was of it takes place
the next time with like two minutes left in the fourth,
Quarter so, yeah the guy gets. Ejected but are they
gonna review that that situation different and, say, well he
only missed two minutes of this, game he probably should
miss the next. One, LIKE i don't know how they're
going to handle. That so there is there's an element.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
OF i think they're gonna they will measure and weigh
it out in terms of one, again if he's got
a history of, it like if he accumulated, points like
he's done this for, Sure sure it's a no it's
a no brainer that he's going to get that what you're,
saying like he did it in the fourth, quarter this
is something that he's done before in, History like, yeah
(34:09):
he's going to get suspended for that next, game but
he doesn't have a history of.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
It and and so, YEAH i think it's.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
That's more by you, know reputation and what you've earned
versus like, okay.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yeah but okay a president and that plays a. Role
that plays a. Role BUT i think if if you're
if we just go back through an, era like when
we were watching THE nba and you have to, PLAYOFFS
i always thought it got more, physical not. Less and
so in the, NINETIES i mean it was a grudge match,
anyway and then when you got.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
In the, playoffs it's, like well they're not really calling it.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
As it, is so like you better if you're going
to the, rack you better you, know cover up and
expect to get. Hit so there is an element to
me of it is the. Playoffs this is the pinnacle
of your, sport and at some point there's be a
precedent set regardless even of their history or, reputation because
(35:06):
you don't want someone else to do it. Too now,
AGAIN i don't think that's this area of, basketball SO
i don't think THE nba has to worry about. That
BUT i could see, how you, know if it happens
in the first quarter versus the fourth quarter or something,
else how that could change this situation.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
And the way it's.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Handled but he missed enough, time and, HONESTLY i mean
it was somewhat, egregious BUT i don't feel.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
Like he went all in LIKE ufc style.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
On him with the, bows you, know send a, message you,
know stop messing with me, man all, right stop stop
trying to take liberties, here all, right and he'll be
back for a pivotal game five, which by the, way
let me get a number for you. Guys it is THE,
nba so we must talk about. Gambling let me, see all,
Right spurs minus ten and a half coming up later on.
Tonight all, Right so there we, Go wenby's, back long
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elbow and all spurs minus, ten.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
WHICH i think the quarterbacks BET's going beyond the own. Sour,
yeah you action on, this what do you think of the?
Action that's just totally out of. Line your real class
act to, me he's probably Taking minnesota.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Get that many.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Points we're being, honest BUT i would NEVER i would
never speculate about.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
That that's.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Rude it is Two pros and A cup Of joe
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Here they have announced the First monday night football game
For week one will.
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Be The chiefs And.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Broncos so, congratulations The chiefs And broncos will be Your
week One you're your week one? Matchup, then, well BECAUSE
i mean Former Chief Tyreek, hill.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
You, know apparently that's that's the. News what is? This
and there's no way those are, Real.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Brady it's a lot better than the one hundred percent.
Reil it's a lot better than the story you're gonna.
Mention and The bills are set to open week two
their new. Stadium we got that out of the. Way
this is.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
A much better.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Story what is the?
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Story, well if you're, Recall Tyreek hill has had a
lot of issues off the, field obviously recovering from his own,
knee but he's settled with, OnlyFans Model sophie hall uh
in a civil trial after she claimed that he broke her. Leg,
(38:24):
now how you might, ask, Well, uh they were doing
a football drill at his, home and that is apparently
how how.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
She broke her.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
LEG i GUESS i forgot a little too. COMPETITIVE i
Think loranda did this in the leftovers he.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
GOT i, mean well it's one less legal issues got
to deal. With he's got some other stuff going. On
but he, quote he has a certain, type you, know
he Likes he liked her because she's, tall and, yeah
maybe it's a fetish.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
He's willing to.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Admit so she's not just, tall though she's tall on
her side.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
Too of drill do you think they were?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Doing, uh it's hard to say because if he like
roughed her, up because.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Did they meet in THE a? Gap is WHAT i
want to.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Know she might have been surprisingly more athletic than, him
and he seems to be a very competitive, guy is
What i'll. Say so whatever the drill, was it probably
had something to do with quickness and maybe a little
(39:35):
bit of. Speed and the quickness part is where she
got him and he got carried.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Away And.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
I'm trying to picture how this comes, about, Right, like
obviously they're over there hanging. Out at what point is
the guy do you bring? Up, hey let's do a football,
Drill like.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
What.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I'm just, romantic, man is?
Speaker 5 (40:00):
IT i, mean did they just get into a discussion
or argument like she's LIKE i could tackle you and he's,
like oh, Yeah like well she's she's.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
An, influencer, right so maybe they were doing content for
her to do influencing.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
Him it doesn't doesn't talk about any video, evidence which
you think there would be if that was the.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Case she. Influenced have you seen pictures of?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Her, yeah that's like you don't have to have talent
when you have somebody who could sponsor you to get you,
know the, lips, chest the butt. DONE i, mean it's
all the way.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Done that was kind of like my, horse The Great
white didn't even get in the.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
Cage but he looked good.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Enough there you, go there as big as hell and
flipped off the.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
Jockey his day was.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Dunked B B B b al though He Maybe tyreek
was writing her and she flipped him.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Off that's maybe that's what. Happened maybe maybe that's what.
Happens maybe he was the jockey's white
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