May 13, 2026 • 39 mins
In Hour 2 of the show, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington discuss Steve Sarkisian throwing in some shade toward Ole Miss. Plus, the guys discuss Netflix paying to have the NFL Honors Ceremony, we have The Good The Bad & The Ugly, and more!!
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Speaker 4 (01:51):
So remember we were talking about Lane Kiffin had made
some comments to Vanity Fair about ole Miss and just said,
you know, it was really hard because of diversity and
whatnot to recruit you know, to ole Miss as opposed
to recruiting to LSU. And then he had to go
back and you know, kind of clarify his statements.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Well, which I don't think that helped things, by the way,
like him clarifying his statements might have only dug him
in a.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Deeper hole nikes.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
And I also don't know if anybody really.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Believes what he says.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
And I don't want to. I don't want to like
just say in general, but when he talks, I just
assume there's a layer of trolling underneath it, based on
you know, whatever his social media history is, you know,
when he leaves places, when he left Tennessee, like all
of that stuff. I just assume he's being a smart ass.
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Like it's just like that's that's just him, you know,
kind of leaning into that or whatnot. So he tried
to clarify it and come back, you know, a day
later and say no, that wasn't the case or whatnot.
When the article first came out, well, extras head coach
Steve Sarkisian spoke about the Luke Farelli situation. Luke Farelli
was a guy from cal who committed to Clemson. He
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was in class at Clemson and allegedly was being recruited
by Ole Miss. Ended up leaving Clemson, went to ole Miss.
Davos Sweeney Devosweeney went on a tear, just ripping into
him Ole Miss, so on and so forth, and so
Steve Sarkisian said the following quote. At Texas, we only
take fifty percent of a player's academic credit hours. You
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may be a semester from graduating. But you're going all
the way back to fifty percent if you play here
and want a degree. But at Ole Miss they can
take you. All you have to do is take basket
weaving and you can get an Old Miss degree. It's
like we've forgotten about academics.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Hit.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Less than five percent of these guys will play in
the NFL. We all signed up to be a part
of the NCAA, and then we allegedly make the rules.
Everyone knows the rules, right then we go to our
attorney general and say we don't like the rule. Let's
just suit right now. No one is afraid of the consequences.
John Sumral stepped in to kind of defend Ole Miss
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on social media, the now Florida head coach. So it
just feels like it's sort of everybody taking a shot
at Ole Miss, especially recently. And I'm just trying to
I want to throw this out there as a theory,
all right, because they've got, you know, their spring meetings
I think are coming up in a couple of weeks.
I wonder if part of this is people have seen
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the Big Ten sort of take over as maybe the
powerhouse of college football, and maybe This is their way
to try and spark up some interest and some drama
if you can't win it on the field and you're
no longer considered that powerhouse conference. Now you've got multiple
schools fire and rounds at other schools as they get
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ready for this, and I just wonder if they're trying
to really lean in to the drama part of it
to try and stir it up a little bit. It
creates some interest and generate a little bit of fun
when it comes to the SEC.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
That's not the directive of any of these coaches, in
my opinion. That's not This stuff happens naturally for people
who follow college football. You know that the storylines are dramatic.
It can feel like soap operas, it can feel like
a sitcom. I mean, it literally is as crazy and
as wild as you can imagine. And it's important because
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the way these universities are run, who they're controlled by,
and even how the coaches can kind of operate and
still despite you know, for example, Steve Sarkisian who is
the head coach of Texas Austin, big city, obviously, you
know it's still there's still a concerted college house, right
like so there's certain things that you can kind of
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you know, for example, to a childless when he appeals,
they go to a judge who's an old miss fan
who's like getting an autographer dapping him up after the
decision to reinstate them.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Right, Like, that stuff goes on.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
It's harder for it to happen at the National Football
League level because there are so many eyes on it.
These are bigger cities. You can't get away with quite
as much, and it's a world that's much more concrete
than how it's structured and how it operates. That's not
the case for college football. You know, they're in a
state of transition. Some would say chaos. I don't quite
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see it like that. But one of the things that
you have state to state that some of the coaches
are frustrated by could be the manner in which how
athletes can be paid for NIL. There's certain states that
allow them to be compensated while they're in high school, there's.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Certain states that don't.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Still, there's just it's an unleveled playing field as you
go across the country, and then how you can go
about recruiting those kids. So that's the hard part is
it's different in whole fifty states. And then it's different
based on how aggressive that school wants to be or
how aggressive of a donor they have.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
And wanting to be a vault.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
And I think we've seen Texas Tech rise to prominence
because of Cody Campbell and the amount of money and
financial investment he's made into that team, and he's been
very outspoken about it.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
And then his thoughts on the.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
College football world lobbying, you know, Congress. So it's just
it's two different worlds. So this isn't like a fabricated deal.
This is the essence. This is the fabric of what
college football is. There's guys who get ticked off about
what's happening and recruiting.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
The difference is within their conference, and that's.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Just one of the differences in the SEC as compared
to the Big Ten, where there is a thought at
least amongst university presidents and athletic directors. In the Big Ten,
there's a lot more consideration given towards the academic side
of things. And even when they were realigning the conference,
who they brought in and why they brought in was
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one of those questions they were asking themselves, like do
these universities uphold the academic standards that we feel like
our university is uphold.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I don't see why the coaches even subject themselves to
these types of conversations. I just think that you handle
what's in front of you, Handle handle your your staff,
handle handle your your delegating of duties, handle the structure
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of of how you're going to run your program. Focus
in on the culture that you need to build because
all of these things like all right, you want to
take aim at another university and their academic standards, like
there's no real loyalty.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
There's no real loyalty.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
If Steve Sarkejan gets gets let go, and it'll eventually
happen because that's what happens in this that industry. If
he gets let go as a as a head coach,
like his his focus isn't on what the academic standards
of Old Misses. His focus is is there a job
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available at Old miss? Is there a job available at
one of these schools that I can go coach at?
To me, I think it's like sometimes it's just really
I don't know. I just feel like it's.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Like, what's it called?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Like, well, I don't feel like it's coming from a
genuine place when these criticisms are coming from from guys
that aren't institutions like I could see if Nick Saban
and even Nick Saban has been, you know, been a
few different places, but at some point it's like, this
is an Alabama man, Like I get that, Yeah, you
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know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
But if you've spent.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
A couple of years out of school and different things
like that, I just, you know, worry about what you
need to worry about. Like when you start to get
into the politics of the institution, I feel like that's
going down an entirely different lane that maybe not even
necessary for a coach to do.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Here's here's the issue is we're talking about quotes from
Steve Sarkisian about the academic side of things. What really
drew a stir was this from Lane Kiffin and regards
to recruiting at Old miss recruiting at LSU. This is
what really caused more of a stir, a bit of
a backlash. And that's obviously that the Hay coach, we
really like you, but my grandparents are letting me move
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to Oxford, Mississippi.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
That it doesn't come up when we when.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
We say Baton Rouge, Louisiana parents are sitting here this
weekend saying this campus is diversity, feels great. It feels
like there's no segregation, and we want that for our
kids because that's the real world. So obviously you can
see how lane Kiffin is stacking up, you know, against
Old miss in recruiting, which has to make.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Be golden and guys who stayed.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Behind, who were with him, who were there, who recruited
at a really high level, just shake their head because
you know, maybe that's something that they came across in
recruiting LeVar because when you look at you know, some
of the historic symbol on Old Missus campus, you see
a Confederate flag, you see you know, the Colonel Rebel mascot.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Oh yeah, maybe that sparks something. Now.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Since then, lane Kiffin obviously clarified and apologize, saying, I
really apologize if anybody Old miss Orssissippi was offended by that.
Old miss has been wonderful to me and my family
wasn't calculated by bringing it up. So that was more
of the quote that I think stirred a lot of
backlash towards lane Kiffin, at least in regards to it
and look in today's day and age, that might still
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be living in the minds of a lot of people
who are being recruited there. You know, they might be
looking at the offer they're getting for nil, and instead
they look up and see something else that taps into
something that's a little bit deeper rooted, and they're like, yeah,
I can get paid close to this, and I can
go somewhere else and play football and still achieve my dreams.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, I get it. I just again, I look at it, like,
you know, people could say that about State College. You know,
it's just the terminology of it. I think it's interesting,
you know, the way Kiffin chose to go about doing it.
It's the white out right no, because it's central Pennsylvania
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and that's you know, it's farmers and you know, stuff
like that, and just just a different, different approach to things,
like there are there are some places.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
In different approach to things.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh, there are different Like my kids were in the
uber going to to the airport in Harrisburg. Like maybe
during spring break time, the uber breaks down on the
way to Harrisburg. In between you know, State College and
Harrisburg and the town that they broke down in the
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Uber lady had to drop them off at a public spot.
It wasn't very many. There was a local small pizzeria.
It gets out at the pizzeria. And I know this
to be factual because I've been around done practicing work.
It was probably the first black people that those people
in that town, so really most likely.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Guess like in the Hills of Appalachia.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's most likely the first time that they saw black
man could say, yeah, my name is Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Hold on now, you can't where are you coming from?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
No man, man, It's like I'm Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
And the Hills of the Amination, the count that man
to Washington, great to meet you.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
The heels of the Nigga Mountain chain.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Hey see, hold on now, where are you want here?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Sir? My kids said they saw they saw these. There
was like an old man was looking out his window curtain.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
He said.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
He started to close it and then it was like
he had to keep looking, so he pulled the car.
They're real, he said. There was a little boy. It
was a little boy walking on the street and saw
them and ran home. So I don't know what the education,
you know, where stranger danger? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
But the point I'm making is there are a lot
of college towns where you can make the argument of
inclusion or segregation.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And all it's the terminology.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I mean used. There's there's HPCU camuses where I don't
feel that.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I mean because you're not, because you're not.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
And it's coming from a guy who's got a family
member you know.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
There you go, there, we go, hey, and here's here's
what's interesting. Though again again to bring it up like
these are these are things that you're going to experience
when you go on your visits Da Dad, this and
that and the other.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's it. It ultimately comes down.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
To the relationship that you built within the within the
community that you you're looking at.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Right, Like you could you could say, all right, well
I could go get an il money here and go
to this.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Place and it's a better place, like you probably deal
with some of that mess.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And baton rouge what like.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's it's you're gonna deal elements wherever it is that
you go. And so to kind of pull that, pull
that out, I just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Does well, okay, why you go there?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
That's do guess that's the point I'm making, why even
try to make it that it's Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
I think it's very clear why he tries to go there,
because Pete Golding knows a lot of the tricks of
his trade. You know, he end up gets gets hired
as the head coach there, and he watched Lane Kiffin operate,
he watched him recruit, so he understands how this all works.
And I'm sure he's, you know, Lane's trying to find
a way for any kids that he wants to poach
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off that roster that he recruited, or any players that
he was recruiting at Old Miss that he wants to
recruit a LSU I'm sure he's using this as a tactic,
and he's able to have that, you know, the ability
to say, well, you know, I'm just trying to come
across respectfully and these points are just factual. These are
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just some of the challenges that I faced there. It's
not a direct shot. I'm just being honest. And then
it tries to make it come off like it's come
off as a good guy, but the reality is they
play each other September nineteenth this year.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
You better believe there is going to be.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
A lot of bad blood between these two and this
doesn't you know, this pours a little bit more on top.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Of that, and in regards to the recruiting trail, So
He's calculated. Bro Lane's calculated with this stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Do you feel like there would be like, was there
anything old Myths could have done that would have kept
laying Kiff in there?
Speaker 5 (16:46):
No?
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I think if you read through the kind of vanity
fair story, you get the sense that he felt like
they had reached their ceiling. And look, this was a
lot of the commentary and this is no disrespect to
some of the coaches that I'm gonna mention, but this
was some of the commentary that came out of the
Brian Kelly decision to go down l s U was, well,
I've witnessed less Miles and had Orizron when a national
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championships there, so I know I can like they look
at their track record as a head coach and they
are like, well, if those two guys can win national
championships there, I can.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Win there and say I get one there too.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Yes, but I'm talking about again, no one's throwing Less
Miles and at Origron in the next saving.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
So so that's kind of my point.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
It's like those two guys, so in essence, that's what
they're kind of saying, right, like, look at the resources.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Look at the facilities. Look what look fruit and developed, look.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
At them, look at them.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
It's kind of like the Eagles in the NFL where
he was like, oh what, Dick Sirianni can't do it.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I could do with that roster. Doug Peterson did it.
I could do it there. It's just well, I.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Don't know that. Nick Sirianni said that.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
And it's a little apples to oranges NFL to college
just because again, these things it's drastically different from school
to school. But I think Lane feels confident in his
ability to get the types of players that you know,
he's experienced, whether it's from his time at SC and
the recruiting advantage they had back then. I feel like
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he doesn't look at LSU in any way, shape or
form as being limited and that's ultimately what he's looking for.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
He's not like any bad experience.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
He had recruiting a player that if there were concerns
about whatever it is at Old Miss, he's not going
to have that at LSU. Like LaVar, you brought that up,
but there's probably some differences too in him looking at
saying yeah. But the last thing I just say is
if you can dominate the state of Louisiana, like Louisiana
has incredible recruits and good football players and programs like,
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you can't necessarily say that.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
As much an Omit or Miss Simmison.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
So even like your local footprint, your state footprint, it's
harder to recruit, and an old Miss is not necessarily
the easiest place to get to, whereas Baton Rouge a
little easier. Not that far from New Orleans, you probably
get a lot of direct flights and driving him out.
So there's just there's a lot of little things that
are up.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
But I think.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Ultimately he looked at the other two kinds of one
one I thought, damn, if they could do it, I
could do it.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And he's probably right.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That's the interesting thing about it, the way that the
things that lang Kiffin has shown that he's able to do,
if he can repeat that process at LSU, you would
think that he'd get better.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
You know, he'll get better results. I mean, he did
it at the school in Florida. Was the school he
was at in Florida FAU FAU.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You did it at FAU, Like, come on, man, you're
not supposed to be able to have the level of
success he did at FAU. I mean, the dude be
figuring it out, Like, let's be clear on that. Like you,
people could take the stances on him that they want
to take ethically or morally. However, I don't, you know,
but the do be getting it done. He gets it done,
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and you'd assume that if he has the resources that
that you know that are being shown in media that
Q is highlighting that you're highlighting, and they're.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Okay with seeing black people come around. They're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I mean, if you got to believe that it's it's
it's all to the good.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I just don't understand. I guess it, and I know
that it exists. I know it exists, and I know
that there's been stories and we've talked about it, and
this is another example of it. But I don't I
don't understand the approach of some of these coaches, and
it feels like it's more in college football than anywhere else.
I don't understand the let's call out all the issues
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with one program when everybody knows you could find a
body buried with every single coach in the sport. Everybody
like you know that, And I just don't. He burns
every bridge that he walks away from, like he's done
it every single side.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
He's entertaining his Hell, I like a.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Natural eye of the best ones because they don't, they
don't care. Everyone's everyone's been an awkward departure at one
with Lincoln.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I'm a singer.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
You can't. You can't not say you're one. Then if
if you love singing others.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I love seeing it in other people. If you're going
to hate, hate is real.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Here here's and look, I've never been recruited by him.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
You gotta have hate have love. So I don't know
what his prerogative is. Well, some would say the opposite
of love is indifference. Oh so anyway, and I'm trying
trying to get philosophical.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Yeah, I mean, I just some would say.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
This about him is And again I've never been recruiter
or coach by him. But if he's only ultimately looking
out for himselves, that becomes tough because to Jonas's point,
he does leave everywhere he you know, moves on from
kind of a dumpster fire, and that would be the
hesitation in hiring him at any place, because you kind
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of feel like you're doing a deal with the devil.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
You all, this doesn't work out, it's gonna go south quick.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Whereas other places you can look and say, regardless of
if they left, they left it at a really high standard.
Bob Stoops decided to step down to Oklahoma still left
that thing running at a high level for Lincoln Riley.
Now I don't know that you can make that case
when Lincoln Riley left and how he left, but that's
where Oklahoma was at. Urban Meyer left it for Ryan
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Day like that. You know, you can go on through
and you can even say, Brian Kelly where he left.
Notre Dame Margus Freeman has taking it up a notch,
but he left it at a certain level for them
to kind of take it from there. And so's there's
elements of that where you don't have to burn bridges everywhere.
I think we've seen examples. But for some reason, man,
he doesn't even care about anything else but himself and
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his own success, and if it ain't working out, he'll
just leave you on a burnt down town and a trail.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That's just how he chooses to to you know, to
levy out what his residual or non residual effects are.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I mean, I feel like you could say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
About those coaches that left those organizations, those those universities,
and that you can you can, from the sense of
it could selfishly mean more to them to be spoken
about in a legacy manner than it would be even
just in the moment of just coaching.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Leaving for a better opportunities. One thing, you know, Nick
Saban left LSU because he wanted to go coach the Dolphins.
Then you know when he left the Dolphins to go
back to Alabama. There's some stuff going on there, all
of that, but he never came out afterwards and buried
the program he was just at or called out. Elaine
Kiffin's done that everywhere. Yeah, And I'm I'm not disputing.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Any of the information that is being put out there
that way. All I'm saying is is that his legacy
to him is much like the reason why coaches get
hired and fired to begin with. If winning is important,
and in some of these cases, winning at any means
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all all hands on deck, like winning is everything.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
We have to win.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
If you get one guy that takes on the personality
that it's just all about winning and that's all they're
focused in on. Sure, it be nice to say that
the person cares about the kids that they're coaching, care
about them getting an education, care about them and then
their mental and emotional health and all that stuff. But
if some of a lot of these coaches are being honest,
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they only care about themselves and their ego is what
they care about, and that's what they're feeding, whether.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
They tell the media or the people or the parents
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So I like the fact that we got one that
just keeps it all away real and that man is
laying Kiffin.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
He's made a.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Lot of money.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Man, whether you like him or not, you still be higheringing, y'all,
still be y'all, y'all, you're hiring them.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Which is a bit sad too, because are you trying
to tell me there's not other candidates out there?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
You know, other guys that you feel like.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
I mean, honestly, Michigan Jim Marbaugh is an example of
someone who I don't know that he left Michigan in
the best terms. Obviously, they won a national championship that
was a great way of leaving it. However, the mess
that Schirol more than had to encounter. But then the
mess that was with shrowing more and everything going on,
which ultimately was revealed.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
It's like now they're bringing Kyle.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Winningham to clean this up and to get them back
to the level where they need to be.
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So it's just it's odd to me that there's.
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Watch It's not the highest level Q think about. Think
about what Franklin took over.
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There's there's there's levels of that Penn State we can
get into as well as other places. It's just odd
to me when universes are like, oh man, we feel
like we're in a really low spot or bad point,
and they just continue to make bad decisions. They continue
to be victims of the moment. And that's ultimately what
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about the NFL schedule. It's going to get released. You've
got different games going to different places, different platforms getting
different stuff from the NFL. Front Off of Sports is
(28:24):
reporting that Netflix is closing in on a deal to
stream the twenty twenty seven Honors ceremony. So that's a
big time get for Netflix there. I'm sure everybody's going
to be fired up to see some of the cornball
lay mass performances that went on at this past NFL
(28:47):
honors where you got to see following a debacle that
was the Pro Bowl, they rolled out this crap so
we could turn it into some SP's want to be oscars,
want to be event and so apparently Flix once in
on all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
So that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Okay, So I've got two thoughts here, because they're.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
CEO Ted Sarandos reiterated that Netflix doesn't want a full
NFL package. However, when you hear this, you're like, all right,
is this just a negotiating tactic or is Netflix looking
at this saying we don't want to be come beholden
to the NFL, Because that's unfortunately where a lot of
(29:25):
the broadcast networks are that help build the NFL as
into what it is today, they're ultimately now falling victim
to the NFL, dictating to them, hey, this is what
we feel like we're worth. If you're not willing to
pay it, we'll gladly go to these streaming platforms. Whether
it's prime Netflix whoever you want to throw into the conversation,
(29:45):
and they are willing to pay for this, so you know,
this is this more Netflix saying like, I don't want
to be stuck with being beholden to Roger Goodell in
the NFL and everything and do everything they want, because
that's how it feels like some the broadcast networks the
position that they're in, or is this more of them saying, hey,
this is what we do well, right, We do roast well,
(30:07):
we do NFL honors, we do you know, exclusive unique
content like this, live sports and events.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
It's been okay, probably not the best, and I think.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
They all realize that we're not there yet in regards
to our infrastructure to have everyone be able to stream,
and on top of that, there's no free streaming platform
and that becomes an issue because then your viewership isn't
as big as it could be, as compared to broadcast
or linear television. As they would say, like, which do
you think it is? Because it's either like a negotiating
(30:38):
tactic where they're saying, no, we don't want to, but
we really do, and you know we're not going to
pay for that price for it, and that's why we
don't want a full NFL package, or they're just staying
kind of true to what they are.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I think it's probably a negotiating tactic because I don't know.
I think it would behove you if you were a
streaming service or anybody, you know, broadcast streaming to want
to get involved in the NFL world as much as possible.
And they can say now that look, there's you.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Know, we're good here. We only want to do a
limited amount.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
But there's only so many wife kills her husband and
blames it on you know, the gardener documentaries that come
out on Netflix every fifteen hours.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
But they're really big. Okay, you can't.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
You can do that, you can continue to do that,
you can rat that mud. But at some I'm just
telling you people, that's.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
What crime crime story.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
But there was there's probably also some people who thought,
you know, years ago, man, Netflix, you know would never
partake in anything like the WWE, and now they do.
And Netflix would never I mean Mike Tyson in a
boxing match on Netflix, and now it's happened. They've continued
to add more and more to that. And so if
(31:53):
you just follow the trend line, I find it hard
to believe that they're not going to go down this
or at least want to be a part of this
and make some sort of a run of it. I
just find that hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Well, I think the whole free TV versus not free
streaming versus you know, the other elements that that are
a part of you know, how you're viewing what's going on,
you know, I think that it becomes a very very
(32:25):
I guess it's a tough conversation because again, direct TV
presented something, Okay, you know, you get all of this
football and it's a certain type of setup and you
feel good about it, and I don't know, and then
now you've got to pay all of this money and
now it's streaming, it's technology, So how does that all
(32:48):
work out? I just I think it's a it's a
conversation that's going to continue to persist. It's it's it's
the next, it's the next iteration because eventually everything is
going to go to digital. So now what is that
is the new norm? Accepting that free TV is dad
(33:08):
and gone? Is that the new norm? Is what I
would be curious about.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Well, and it might be a question for a Congress
answer because that's what's a stake right now with the NFL.
You know, there's a lot of the broadcast networks or
linear television networks that are saying, you know, this is
good for the general population.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Here are the studies that are a part of that.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
You know, some of the networks are working with Harvard
for that sort of thing, and they're basically saying, like, hey,
if you ultimately want the sport to be the biggest,
you should want to be having a portion of it
that is free. And I always say to people now too,
like remember the old rabbit ears, you know people put
up there they.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Wrap like tenfoil routes something connected to it.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Absolutely, most people smart TVs now have the tuning ability
to tune in to broadcast television and you don't need
all that crap. Like they're good enough now to be
able to tune in to those channels and have those
channels on their TV for free. There's like a lot
of people who aren't aware of that, Like you are
paying for stuff where.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
You don't need it, Like you can just tune into.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Broadcast television and still get a lot of those games
and shows, etc. But the point is is right now
and it's documented. I mean, the reach of the streaming
is not as big because just not as many people
have access to those subscriptions. They're not either able to
pay for or not willing to pay for it, whatever
the case may be, is that ultimately good for the sport.
(34:31):
If you're the NFL, you know that you can't have
a Super Bowl with the highest amount of viewers if
you are streaming right now. That's just a fact, that's
not opinion. You do not have enough subscribers. There are
still you know, there's still many reasons. Even if you're
an advertiser and you want to have the biggest reach
as possible, your reach can't be as big unless it's
(34:53):
a part of broadcast television at this current point. That
may change ten, fifteen, twenty years down the road, but
that's not the case right now. And so there's plenty
of broadcast networks that are lobbying Congress right now stating
that very thing, because what the NFL is trying to
do is if they end up going with pure digital
streaming platforms, they're boxing out a large portion of their viewership.
(35:19):
And not only is that probably not good for business
in the end, because I don't even know that the
streaming platforms are going to get what they want out
of it, but it's probably not good for the general
society either, you know, not be able to have that night.
We can go, as Jonas would say, blossom Steam, have
a few beers, go watch a game for free. I
think we still need that in society.
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There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
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Constable gone, Then what the hell did you just say?
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Draw?
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Cowboy?
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Drawn? Cowboy?
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Smoke that wagon.
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The sweep of the La Lakers.
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Lebron Dylan Brooks being there right next to the hoop
trying to cheer on Lebron during every free throw attempt
in that Game four of this series versus Okholm the City.
So I know those two have a long history. I
just think it was nice to Dylan Brooks. It was
really good that he was there to support Lebron.
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world of sports. You know, in Major League Baseball, you've
got the ABS system where you cannot challenge balls and strikes,
and it's been really effective. It's pretty fast. At the
little league level, they got to do something because my
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(38:37):
can show you it was all proven, prove it. Awful,
terrible call. Oh that's my bad.
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And finally we got sheriff sticks.
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You get the ugly brother sheriff sticks.
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Uh this segment, this segment was ugly constable Q like pitches,
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Speaker 4 (01:51):
So remember we were talking about Lane Kiffin had made
some comments to Vanity Fair about ole Miss and just said,
you know, it was really hard because of diversity and
whatnot to recruit you know, to ole Miss as opposed
to recruiting to LSU. And then he had to go
back and you know, kind of clarify his statements.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Well, which I don't think that helped things, by the way,
like him clarifying his statements might have only dug him
in a.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Deeper hole nikes.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
And I also don't know if anybody really.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Believes what he says.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
And I don't want to. I don't want to like
just say in general, but when he talks, I just
assume there's a layer of trolling underneath it, based on
you know, whatever his social media history is, you know,
when he leaves places, when he left Tennessee, like all
of that stuff. I just assume he's being a smart ass.
(02:46):
Like it's just like that's that's just him, you know,
kind of leaning into that or whatnot. So he tried
to clarify it and come back, you know, a day
later and say no, that wasn't the case or whatnot.
When the article first came out, well, extras head coach
Steve Sarkisian spoke about the Luke Farelli situation. Luke Farelli
was a guy from cal who committed to Clemson. He
(03:08):
was in class at Clemson and allegedly was being recruited
by Ole Miss. Ended up leaving Clemson, went to ole Miss.
Davos Sweeney Devosweeney went on a tear, just ripping into
him Ole Miss, so on and so forth, and so
Steve Sarkisian said the following quote. At Texas, we only
take fifty percent of a player's academic credit hours. You
(03:31):
may be a semester from graduating. But you're going all
the way back to fifty percent if you play here
and want a degree. But at Ole Miss they can
take you. All you have to do is take basket
weaving and you can get an Old Miss degree. It's
like we've forgotten about academics.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Hit.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Less than five percent of these guys will play in
the NFL. We all signed up to be a part
of the NCAA, and then we allegedly make the rules.
Everyone knows the rules, right then we go to our
attorney general and say we don't like the rule. Let's
just suit right now. No one is afraid of the consequences.
John Sumral stepped in to kind of defend Ole Miss
(04:06):
on social media, the now Florida head coach. So it
just feels like it's sort of everybody taking a shot
at Ole Miss, especially recently. And I'm just trying to
I want to throw this out there as a theory,
all right, because they've got, you know, their spring meetings
I think are coming up in a couple of weeks.
I wonder if part of this is people have seen
(04:31):
the Big Ten sort of take over as maybe the
powerhouse of college football, and maybe This is their way
to try and spark up some interest and some drama
if you can't win it on the field and you're
no longer considered that powerhouse conference. Now you've got multiple
schools fire and rounds at other schools as they get
(04:53):
ready for this, and I just wonder if they're trying
to really lean in to the drama part of it
to try and stir it up a little bit. It
creates some interest and generate a little bit of fun
when it comes to the SEC.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
That's not the directive of any of these coaches, in
my opinion. That's not This stuff happens naturally for people
who follow college football. You know that the storylines are dramatic.
It can feel like soap operas, it can feel like
a sitcom. I mean, it literally is as crazy and
as wild as you can imagine. And it's important because
(05:26):
the way these universities are run, who they're controlled by,
and even how the coaches can kind of operate and
still despite you know, for example, Steve Sarkisian who is
the head coach of Texas Austin, big city, obviously, you
know it's still there's still a concerted college house, right
like so there's certain things that you can kind of
(05:48):
you know, for example, to a childless when he appeals,
they go to a judge who's an old miss fan
who's like getting an autographer dapping him up after the
decision to reinstate them.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Right, Like, that stuff goes on.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
It's harder for it to happen at the National Football
League level because there are so many eyes on it.
These are bigger cities. You can't get away with quite
as much, and it's a world that's much more concrete
than how it's structured and how it operates. That's not
the case for college football. You know, they're in a
state of transition. Some would say chaos. I don't quite
(06:24):
see it like that. But one of the things that
you have state to state that some of the coaches
are frustrated by could be the manner in which how
athletes can be paid for NIL. There's certain states that
allow them to be compensated while they're in high school, there's.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Certain states that don't.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Still, there's just it's an unleveled playing field as you
go across the country, and then how you can go
about recruiting those kids. So that's the hard part is
it's different in whole fifty states. And then it's different
based on how aggressive that school wants to be or
how aggressive of a donor they have.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
And wanting to be a vault.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
And I think we've seen Texas Tech rise to prominence
because of Cody Campbell and the amount of money and
financial investment he's made into that team, and he's been
very outspoken about it.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
And then his thoughts on the.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
College football world lobbying, you know, Congress. So it's just
it's two different worlds. So this isn't like a fabricated deal.
This is the essence. This is the fabric of what
college football is. There's guys who get ticked off about
what's happening and recruiting.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
The difference is within their conference, and that's.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Just one of the differences in the SEC as compared
to the Big Ten, where there is a thought at
least amongst university presidents and athletic directors. In the Big Ten,
there's a lot more consideration given towards the academic side
of things. And even when they were realigning the conference,
who they brought in and why they brought in was
(07:53):
one of those questions they were asking themselves, like do
these universities uphold the academic standards that we feel like
our university is uphold.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I don't see why the coaches even subject themselves to
these types of conversations. I just think that you handle
what's in front of you, Handle handle your your staff,
handle handle your your delegating of duties, handle the structure
(08:23):
of of how you're going to run your program. Focus
in on the culture that you need to build because
all of these things like all right, you want to
take aim at another university and their academic standards, like
there's no real loyalty.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
There's no real loyalty.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
If Steve Sarkejan gets gets let go, and it'll eventually
happen because that's what happens in this that industry. If
he gets let go as a as a head coach,
like his his focus isn't on what the academic standards
of Old Misses. His focus is is there a job
(09:01):
available at Old miss? Is there a job available at
one of these schools that I can go coach at?
To me, I think it's like sometimes it's just really
I don't know. I just feel like it's.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Like, what's it called?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Like, well, I don't feel like it's coming from a
genuine place when these criticisms are coming from from guys
that aren't institutions like I could see if Nick Saban
and even Nick Saban has been, you know, been a
few different places, but at some point it's like, this
is an Alabama man, Like I get that, Yeah, you
(09:38):
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
But if you've spent.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
A couple of years out of school and different things
like that, I just, you know, worry about what you
need to worry about. Like when you start to get
into the politics of the institution, I feel like that's
going down an entirely different lane that maybe not even
necessary for a coach to do.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Here's here's the issue is we're talking about quotes from
Steve Sarkisian about the academic side of things. What really
drew a stir was this from Lane Kiffin and regards
to recruiting at Old miss recruiting at LSU. This is
what really caused more of a stir, a bit of
a backlash. And that's obviously that the Hay coach, we
really like you, but my grandparents are letting me move
(10:20):
to Oxford, Mississippi.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
That it doesn't come up when we when.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
We say Baton Rouge, Louisiana parents are sitting here this
weekend saying this campus is diversity, feels great. It feels
like there's no segregation, and we want that for our
kids because that's the real world. So obviously you can
see how lane Kiffin is stacking up, you know, against
Old miss in recruiting, which has to make.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Be golden and guys who stayed.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Behind, who were with him, who were there, who recruited
at a really high level, just shake their head because
you know, maybe that's something that they came across in
recruiting LeVar because when you look at you know, some
of the historic symbol on Old Missus campus, you see
a Confederate flag, you see you know, the Colonel Rebel mascot.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Oh yeah, maybe that sparks something. Now.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Since then, lane Kiffin obviously clarified and apologize, saying, I
really apologize if anybody Old miss Orssissippi was offended by that.
Old miss has been wonderful to me and my family
wasn't calculated by bringing it up. So that was more
of the quote that I think stirred a lot of
backlash towards lane Kiffin, at least in regards to it
and look in today's day and age, that might still
(11:28):
be living in the minds of a lot of people
who are being recruited there. You know, they might be
looking at the offer they're getting for nil, and instead
they look up and see something else that taps into
something that's a little bit deeper rooted, and they're like, yeah,
I can get paid close to this, and I can
go somewhere else and play football and still achieve my dreams.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, I get it. I just again, I look at it, like,
you know, people could say that about State College. You know,
it's just the terminology of it. I think it's interesting,
you know, the way Kiffin chose to go about doing it.
It's the white out right no, because it's central Pennsylvania
(12:08):
and that's you know, it's farmers and you know, stuff
like that, and just just a different, different approach to things,
like there are there are some places.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
In different approach to things.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh, there are different Like my kids were in the
uber going to to the airport in Harrisburg. Like maybe
during spring break time, the uber breaks down on the
way to Harrisburg. In between you know, State College and
Harrisburg and the town that they broke down in the
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Uber lady had to drop them off at a public spot.
It wasn't very many. There was a local small pizzeria.
It gets out at the pizzeria. And I know this
to be factual because I've been around done practicing work.
It was probably the first black people that those people
in that town, so really most likely.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Guess like in the Hills of Appalachia.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's most likely the first time that they saw black
man could say, yeah, my name is Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Hold on now, you can't where are you coming from?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
No man, man, It's like I'm Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
And the Hills of the Amination, the count that man
to Washington, great to meet you.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
The heels of the Nigga Mountain chain.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Hey see, hold on now, where are you want here?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Sir? My kids said they saw they saw these. There
was like an old man was looking out his window curtain.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
He said.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
He started to close it and then it was like
he had to keep looking, so he pulled the car.
They're real, he said. There was a little boy. It
was a little boy walking on the street and saw
them and ran home. So I don't know what the education,
you know, where stranger danger? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
But the point I'm making is there are a lot
of college towns where you can make the argument of
inclusion or segregation.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And all it's the terminology.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I mean used. There's there's HPCU camuses where I don't
feel that.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I mean because you're not, because you're not.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
And it's coming from a guy who's got a family
member you know.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
There you go, there, we go, hey, and here's here's
what's interesting. Though again again to bring it up like
these are these are things that you're going to experience
when you go on your visits Da Dad, this and
that and the other.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's it. It ultimately comes down.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
To the relationship that you built within the within the
community that you you're looking at.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Right, Like you could you could say, all right, well
I could go get an il money here and go
to this.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Place and it's a better place, like you probably deal
with some of that mess.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And baton rouge what like.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's it's you're gonna deal elements wherever it is that
you go. And so to kind of pull that, pull
that out, I just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Does well, okay, why you go there?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
That's do guess that's the point I'm making, why even
try to make it that it's Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
I think it's very clear why he tries to go there,
because Pete Golding knows a lot of the tricks of
his trade. You know, he end up gets gets hired
as the head coach there, and he watched Lane Kiffin operate,
he watched him recruit, so he understands how this all works.
And I'm sure he's, you know, Lane's trying to find
a way for any kids that he wants to poach
(15:48):
off that roster that he recruited, or any players that
he was recruiting at Old Miss that he wants to
recruit a LSU I'm sure he's using this as a tactic,
and he's able to have that, you know, the ability
to say, well, you know, I'm just trying to come
across respectfully and these points are just factual. These are
(16:10):
just some of the challenges that I faced there. It's
not a direct shot. I'm just being honest. And then
it tries to make it come off like it's come
off as a good guy, but the reality is they
play each other September nineteenth this year.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
You better believe there is going to be.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
A lot of bad blood between these two and this
doesn't you know, this pours a little bit more on top.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Of that, and in regards to the recruiting trail, So
He's calculated. Bro Lane's calculated with this stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Do you feel like there would be like, was there
anything old Myths could have done that would have kept
laying Kiff in there?
Speaker 5 (16:46):
No?
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I think if you read through the kind of vanity
fair story, you get the sense that he felt like
they had reached their ceiling. And look, this was a
lot of the commentary and this is no disrespect to
some of the coaches that I'm gonna mention, but this
was some of the commentary that came out of the
Brian Kelly decision to go down l s U was, well,
I've witnessed less Miles and had Orizron when a national
(17:10):
championships there, so I know I can like they look
at their track record as a head coach and they
are like, well, if those two guys can win national
championships there, I can.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Win there and say I get one there too.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Yes, but I'm talking about again, no one's throwing Less
Miles and at Origron in the next saving.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
So so that's kind of my point.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
It's like those two guys, so in essence, that's what
they're kind of saying, right, like, look at the resources.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Look at the facilities. Look what look fruit and developed, look.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
At them, look at them.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
It's kind of like the Eagles in the NFL where
he was like, oh what, Dick Sirianni can't do it.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I could do with that roster. Doug Peterson did it.
I could do it there. It's just well, I.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Don't know that. Nick Sirianni said that.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
And it's a little apples to oranges NFL to college
just because again, these things it's drastically different from school
to school. But I think Lane feels confident in his
ability to get the types of players that you know,
he's experienced, whether it's from his time at SC and
the recruiting advantage they had back then. I feel like
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he doesn't look at LSU in any way, shape or
form as being limited and that's ultimately what he's looking for.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
He's not like any bad experience.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
He had recruiting a player that if there were concerns
about whatever it is at Old Miss, he's not going
to have that at LSU. Like LaVar, you brought that up,
but there's probably some differences too in him looking at
saying yeah. But the last thing I just say is
if you can dominate the state of Louisiana, like Louisiana
has incredible recruits and good football players and programs like,
(18:58):
you can't necessarily say that.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
As much an Omit or Miss Simmison.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
So even like your local footprint, your state footprint, it's
harder to recruit, and an old Miss is not necessarily
the easiest place to get to, whereas Baton Rouge a
little easier. Not that far from New Orleans, you probably
get a lot of direct flights and driving him out.
So there's just there's a lot of little things that
are up.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
But I think.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Ultimately he looked at the other two kinds of one
one I thought, damn, if they could do it, I
could do it.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And he's probably right.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That's the interesting thing about it, the way that the
things that lang Kiffin has shown that he's able to do,
if he can repeat that process at LSU, you would
think that he'd get better.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
You know, he'll get better results. I mean, he did
it at the school in Florida. Was the school he
was at in Florida FAU FAU.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You did it at FAU, Like, come on, man, you're
not supposed to be able to have the level of
success he did at FAU. I mean, the dude be
figuring it out, Like, let's be clear on that. Like you,
people could take the stances on him that they want
to take ethically or morally. However, I don't, you know,
but the do be getting it done. He gets it done,
(20:13):
and you'd assume that if he has the resources that
that you know that are being shown in media that
Q is highlighting that you're highlighting, and they're.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Okay with seeing black people come around. They're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I mean, if you got to believe that it's it's
it's all to the good.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I just don't understand. I guess it, and I know
that it exists. I know it exists, and I know
that there's been stories and we've talked about it, and
this is another example of it. But I don't I
don't understand the approach of some of these coaches, and
it feels like it's more in college football than anywhere else.
I don't understand the let's call out all the issues
(20:54):
with one program when everybody knows you could find a
body buried with every single coach in the sport. Everybody
like you know that, And I just don't. He burns
every bridge that he walks away from, like he's done
it every single side.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
He's entertaining his Hell, I like a.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Natural eye of the best ones because they don't, they
don't care. Everyone's everyone's been an awkward departure at one
with Lincoln.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I'm a singer.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
You can't. You can't not say you're one. Then if
if you love singing others.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I love seeing it in other people. If you're going
to hate, hate is real.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Here here's and look, I've never been recruited by him.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
You gotta have hate have love. So I don't know
what his prerogative is. Well, some would say the opposite
of love is indifference. Oh so anyway, and I'm trying
trying to get philosophical.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Yeah, I mean, I just some would say.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
This about him is And again I've never been recruiter
or coach by him. But if he's only ultimately looking
out for himselves, that becomes tough because to Jonas's point,
he does leave everywhere he you know, moves on from
kind of a dumpster fire, and that would be the
hesitation in hiring him at any place, because you kind
(22:11):
of feel like you're doing a deal with the devil.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
You all, this doesn't work out, it's gonna go south quick.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Whereas other places you can look and say, regardless of
if they left, they left it at a really high standard.
Bob Stoops decided to step down to Oklahoma still left
that thing running at a high level for Lincoln Riley.
Now I don't know that you can make that case
when Lincoln Riley left and how he left, but that's
where Oklahoma was at. Urban Meyer left it for Ryan
(22:39):
Day like that. You know, you can go on through
and you can even say, Brian Kelly where he left.
Notre Dame Margus Freeman has taking it up a notch,
but he left it at a certain level for them
to kind of take it from there. And so's there's
elements of that where you don't have to burn bridges everywhere.
I think we've seen examples. But for some reason, man,
he doesn't even care about anything else but himself and
(22:59):
his own success, and if it ain't working out, he'll
just leave you on a burnt down town and a trail.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That's just how he chooses to to you know, to
levy out what his residual or non residual effects are.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I mean, I feel like you could say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
About those coaches that left those organizations, those those universities,
and that you can you can, from the sense of
it could selfishly mean more to them to be spoken
about in a legacy manner than it would be even
just in the moment of just coaching.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Leaving for a better opportunities. One thing, you know, Nick
Saban left LSU because he wanted to go coach the Dolphins.
Then you know when he left the Dolphins to go
back to Alabama. There's some stuff going on there, all
of that, but he never came out afterwards and buried
the program he was just at or called out. Elaine
Kiffin's done that everywhere. Yeah, And I'm I'm not disputing.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Any of the information that is being put out there
that way. All I'm saying is is that his legacy
to him is much like the reason why coaches get
hired and fired to begin with. If winning is important,
and in some of these cases, winning at any means
(24:21):
all all hands on deck, like winning is everything.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
We have to win.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
If you get one guy that takes on the personality
that it's just all about winning and that's all they're
focused in on. Sure, it be nice to say that
the person cares about the kids that they're coaching, care
about them getting an education, care about them and then
their mental and emotional health and all that stuff. But
if some of a lot of these coaches are being honest,
(24:46):
they only care about themselves and their ego is what
they care about, and that's what they're feeding, whether.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
They tell the media or the people or the parents
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So I like the fact that we got one that
just keeps it all away real and that man is
laying Kiffin.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
He's made a.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Lot of money.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Man, whether you like him or not, you still be higheringing, y'all,
still be y'all, y'all, you're hiring them.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Which is a bit sad too, because are you trying
to tell me there's not other candidates out there?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
You know, other guys that you feel like.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
I mean, honestly, Michigan Jim Marbaugh is an example of
someone who I don't know that he left Michigan in
the best terms. Obviously, they won a national championship that
was a great way of leaving it. However, the mess
that Schirol more than had to encounter. But then the
mess that was with shrowing more and everything going on,
which ultimately was revealed.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
It's like now they're bringing Kyle.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Winningham to clean this up and to get them back
to the level where they need to be.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
So it's just it's odd to me that there's.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Watch It's not the highest level Q think about. Think
about what Franklin took over.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
There's there's there's levels of that Penn State we can
get into as well as other places. It's just odd
to me when universes are like, oh man, we feel
like we're in a really low spot or bad point,
and they just continue to make bad decisions. They continue
to be victims of the moment. And that's ultimately what
that comes down in Langkiff and knows he can take
(26:16):
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about the NFL schedule. It's going to get released. You've
got different games going to different places, different platforms getting
different stuff from the NFL. Front Off of Sports is
(28:24):
reporting that Netflix is closing in on a deal to
stream the twenty twenty seven Honors ceremony. So that's a
big time get for Netflix there. I'm sure everybody's going
to be fired up to see some of the cornball
lay mass performances that went on at this past NFL
(28:47):
honors where you got to see following a debacle that
was the Pro Bowl, they rolled out this crap so
we could turn it into some SP's want to be oscars,
want to be event and so apparently Flix once in
on all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
So that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Okay, So I've got two thoughts here, because they're.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
CEO Ted Sarandos reiterated that Netflix doesn't want a full
NFL package. However, when you hear this, you're like, all right,
is this just a negotiating tactic or is Netflix looking
at this saying we don't want to be come beholden
to the NFL, Because that's unfortunately where a lot of
(29:25):
the broadcast networks are that help build the NFL as
into what it is today, they're ultimately now falling victim
to the NFL, dictating to them, hey, this is what
we feel like we're worth. If you're not willing to
pay it, we'll gladly go to these streaming platforms. Whether
it's prime Netflix whoever you want to throw into the conversation,
(29:45):
and they are willing to pay for this, so you know,
this is this more Netflix saying like, I don't want
to be stuck with being beholden to Roger Goodell in
the NFL and everything and do everything they want, because
that's how it feels like some the broadcast networks the
position that they're in, or is this more of them saying, hey,
this is what we do well, right, We do roast well,
(30:07):
we do NFL honors, we do you know, exclusive unique
content like this, live sports and events.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
It's been okay, probably not the best, and I think.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
They all realize that we're not there yet in regards
to our infrastructure to have everyone be able to stream,
and on top of that, there's no free streaming platform
and that becomes an issue because then your viewership isn't
as big as it could be, as compared to broadcast
or linear television. As they would say, like, which do
you think it is? Because it's either like a negotiating
(30:38):
tactic where they're saying, no, we don't want to, but
we really do, and you know we're not going to
pay for that price for it, and that's why we
don't want a full NFL package, or they're just staying
kind of true to what they are.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I think it's probably a negotiating tactic because I don't know.
I think it would behove you if you were a
streaming service or anybody, you know, broadcast streaming to want
to get involved in the NFL world as much as possible.
And they can say now that look, there's you.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Know, we're good here. We only want to do a
limited amount.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
But there's only so many wife kills her husband and
blames it on you know, the gardener documentaries that come
out on Netflix every fifteen hours.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
But they're really big. Okay, you can't.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
You can do that, you can continue to do that,
you can rat that mud. But at some I'm just
telling you people, that's.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
What crime crime story.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
But there was there's probably also some people who thought,
you know, years ago, man, Netflix, you know would never
partake in anything like the WWE, and now they do.
And Netflix would never I mean Mike Tyson in a
boxing match on Netflix, and now it's happened. They've continued
to add more and more to that. And so if
(31:53):
you just follow the trend line, I find it hard
to believe that they're not going to go down this
or at least want to be a part of this
and make some sort of a run of it. I
just find that hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Well, I think the whole free TV versus not free
streaming versus you know, the other elements that that are
a part of you know, how you're viewing what's going on,
you know, I think that it becomes a very very
(32:25):
I guess it's a tough conversation because again, direct TV
presented something, Okay, you know, you get all of this
football and it's a certain type of setup and you
feel good about it, and I don't know, and then
now you've got to pay all of this money and
now it's streaming, it's technology, So how does that all
(32:48):
work out? I just I think it's a it's a
conversation that's going to continue to persist. It's it's it's
the next, it's the next iteration because eventually everything is
going to go to digital. So now what is that
is the new norm? Accepting that free TV is dad
(33:08):
and gone? Is that the new norm? Is what I
would be curious about.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Well, and it might be a question for a Congress
answer because that's what's a stake right now with the NFL.
You know, there's a lot of the broadcast networks or
linear television networks that are saying, you know, this is
good for the general population.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Here are the studies that are a part of that.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
You know, some of the networks are working with Harvard
for that sort of thing, and they're basically saying, like, hey,
if you ultimately want the sport to be the biggest,
you should want to be having a portion of it
that is free. And I always say to people now too,
like remember the old rabbit ears, you know people put
up there they.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Wrap like tenfoil routes something connected to it.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Absolutely, most people smart TVs now have the tuning ability
to tune in to broadcast television and you don't need
all that crap. Like they're good enough now to be
able to tune in to those channels and have those
channels on their TV for free. There's like a lot
of people who aren't aware of that, Like you are
paying for stuff where.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
You don't need it, Like you can just tune into.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Broadcast television and still get a lot of those games
and shows, etc. But the point is is right now
and it's documented. I mean, the reach of the streaming
is not as big because just not as many people
have access to those subscriptions. They're not either able to
pay for or not willing to pay for it, whatever
the case may be, is that ultimately good for the sport.
(34:31):
If you're the NFL, you know that you can't have
a Super Bowl with the highest amount of viewers if
you are streaming right now. That's just a fact, that's
not opinion. You do not have enough subscribers. There are
still you know, there's still many reasons. Even if you're
an advertiser and you want to have the biggest reach
as possible, your reach can't be as big unless it's
(34:53):
a part of broadcast television at this current point. That
may change ten, fifteen, twenty years down the road, but
that's not the case right now. And so there's plenty
of broadcast networks that are lobbying Congress right now stating
that very thing, because what the NFL is trying to
do is if they end up going with pure digital
streaming platforms, they're boxing out a large portion of their viewership.
(35:19):
And not only is that probably not good for business
in the end, because I don't even know that the
streaming platforms are going to get what they want out
of it, but it's probably not good for the general
society either, you know, not be able to have that night.
We can go, as Jonas would say, blossom Steam, have
a few beers, go watch a game for free. I
think we still need that in society.
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Draw?
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Cowboy?
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Speaker 5 (37:41):
Smoke that wagon.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
I don't know what has happened to Patty Sweep. But
here's the good. The good is Dylan Brooks being there
to support Lebron James despite.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
The sweep of the La Lakers.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Lebron Dylan Brooks being there right next to the hoop
trying to cheer on Lebron during every free throw attempt
in that Game four of this series versus Okholm the City.
So I know those two have a long history. I
just think it was nice to Dylan Brooks. It was
really good that he was there to support Lebron.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Okay, all right up, nixt we got dempity, not you're
the bad brother.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Well, we've talked about how poor officiating is across the
world of sports. You know, in Major League Baseball, you've
got the ABS system where you cannot challenge balls and strikes,
and it's been really effective. It's pretty fast. At the
little league level, they got to do something because my
son got wrung up on a strike call that was
so egregious. I've got video I can document it. I
(38:37):
can show you it was all proven, prove it. Awful,
terrible call. Oh that's my bad.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
And finally we got sheriff sticks.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
You get the ugly brother sheriff sticks.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Uh this segment, this segment was ugly constable Q like pitches,
yeahlet's go to break, let's get to hour three.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
But that's my ugly you know,
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