May 14, 2026 • 40 mins
In Hour 2 of the show, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington discuss ACC Commish Jim Philips sounding off on the potential for a 24 team CFP Playoff bracket. Plus, the guys also discuss Matt Rhule signing a NIL deal over his likeness and podcast usage, and more!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let's get this, putties, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Uh and they can't keep a good man name. I
want me to smile. They will never ever take my crown.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Jammin.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Oh god, song sounds different every time I hear it.
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, it sounds like it gets worse every time.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Huh No, I was gonna say it sounds like a
news song every time I hear it.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Oh oh wow, I thought the true you were getting that.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It's a different version. I ain't gonna lie. It's a
little off from the original. The original is a little
bit more grittier. This one is a little bit more different.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
What does that mean?
Speaker 6 (01:33):
A little different?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
The remix it's not the original is the original? Could
you play the original on radio?
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Or is that?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah? Yeah, you could play the original. It sounds a
lot different. It's a little bit more straight to it.
You know, let's get straight to this. It's two pros
and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
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(02:17):
Did we find the gritty version of of whatever that
song is?
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Why? I just want to double check who was the artist?
Far Sizzler?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I love that place, lah okay, hold.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
On, it sounds a little different.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
It has to just you know, they got to get this,
you guys, big Sizzler guys growing up.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
No, No, didn't have Sizzlers, you didn't. That's their original.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, it sounds like a new song.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Well, this one is the original. I know, that's right.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Someone they wanted me to frown stood at my grounds.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
They will never ever take my crown.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Let's started, man, carden.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
It's way different. It's way different.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
You can't hear to settle the it's it's it's way different.
It's it's way yeah. Why can't he hear the because
he said he didn't hear it? He said didn't sound different.
That's way different. That that's like, that's the one.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I like this one better.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
This one is better. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
The other one is a little bit more like almost like, uh,
what you do when you sing the words on the
on the dip?
Speaker 6 (03:47):
What what is that called karaoke?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Karaoke version?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, hey, you don't learn learn something new every day.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
So there.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I wasn't gonna say anything though, but what do you
mean a different version that scissor?
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Man?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
All you can eat? Love that salad bar It's great. Man,
steak's not great.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
You would love salad bar. I like the variety, you know. Yeah, yeah,
what's your favorite salad?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Hmm, it's probably a caesar salad.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I was going, you're thinking of toss salad, weren't you?
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Damn I refuse.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I was just saying what everyone's thinking that think.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
What about a wedge salad? Solid?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I love wedg salads well.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Blue cheese. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You want to touch it, and I prefer jelly.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Let me ask you this, egg salad, macaroni salad, potato salad.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Gotta rank them, It depends, It depends. Egg salad is
an easy win. But if you'd make a hell of
a potato salad, you could be number one.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
A bad potato salad.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Like and I know that's gonna it's gonna expose something here.
If you put grapes in your potato salad, that is
last on the list.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
What about raisins?
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Same thing.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Potato salad. Potato salad is meant for. Just that they
didn't call it grape salad. They didn't call it raisin salad.
They called it potato salad. Yeah, it's don't be putting.
Don't be putting no grapes or no raisins in your
potato salad.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I mean, it's it's potato, it's macaroni, and then it's egg.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Because the problem I was about to say it really
runs into the lane of egg salad. Like a potato
salad really should taste taste almost like an egg salad
with potatoes in it, kind of sort of, So there
you go.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Hey, see, we accomplished a lot right there.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
The other ones. What were the other onesto.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Potato eggs.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Sound of macaroni salad, Yeah, macaroni salad is pretty good
when you're eating like Hawaiian barbecue, it goes pretty well.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Oh yeah, it goes pretty well with it with the
bee fribs. Oh that sounds so good.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Well, I just yeah, I don't know if she's what's
wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I don't think she can help herself.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
She really can't.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I just think, you know, I just think the meat
on the bone.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Let me tell you something, it's maybe the most perfect
fit for this show that's ever been, that's ever happened.
You know, love Roberto, still miss him, love I with Sam,
still talk to him. Lorena, you stepped in nicely.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Filled it. You filled in the gap definitely as well.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
But we're her sloppy second though. I don't know, man,
I just feel like she's a little bit more loyal
to the to the mall Ord militia.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
My bagel guy mentioned the meet and greets, and we
were curious why we don't do some meet and greets.
You know, we should do it as a team. Lebar's
go into activations.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
I'm all about it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I don't get it.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
That's funny.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Get out in these streets, come to the practice. No,
I don't want to come. You're right, I don't want
to do it. I told listen. I told you guys
at the time. I didn't like James Franklin's culture and
I just wasn't going to be a part of it.
I didn't want to subject my saying you called money. Yeah,
I just didn't want to be I didn't want to
(07:53):
didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Come on, no, what's it now? Like he was a little,
a little can't mote like, what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I'm just going to go walk.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Just want to cruise around, man, want to just want
to cruise around by myself. Want to see State College.
I've heard things, beautiful place. I want to go cruise around.
It's awesome.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
But you didn't want to meet Jack Cam Like what.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I didn't think you guys circling back around in an
uber and telling me to go f myself in public
was the polite thing to do.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But that'd be ten dollars. Ten dollars, that'll be ten dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
We went and got something to eat me LeVar and
what's his name?
Speaker 4 (08:35):
And then we uh.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
They went to go to the practice and I said, yeah,
I'm not going to go. I want to go cruise.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Around, and you don't want to go see I just
want to go cruise around.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
The pregame practice.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And they circled Jack Ham would be there. You'll get
to meet Jack and he's like, yeah, no, not interested.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And so I'm just kind of minding my own business,
just looking at the beautiful scenery and State College, and
all of a sudden, the same over that we arrived
in turned back around, window rolls down and you just
see LeVar yell out a few white ass bitch and
then they just drove off. And I said, all right,
that'd be ten dollars. And I said the twenty dollars.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
That'd be twenty dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Wait was this now You're saying I'm hollering out like
racial obscenities to you to like, it's twenty dollars.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Man, Well it's your babe, it was the other guy.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Hold On, maybe it was the other guy.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Hold On?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Were were you and I together at that bar where
we were smalling cigars and drinking beforehand?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
You weren't there no, this was at the well.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
There was one time when I was there with you
far I just wasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Sure we were at we were at the Nitney line
in Uh yeah, this is a different time.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
This was the Graduate remote. We did it from the
Graduate Hotel and then they played Illinois that day Penn
State played Illinois.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Was was that? I don't know. It was a night game,
wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it was pretty fun that place anyway,
that place. Now you weren't there though, If if anybody
wants to get out to a Penn State game, just
to walk through that tunnel into the stadium is awesome.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
How did you get into the stadium that way?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
You know, I just made made a couple of connections,
a couple of calls. Yeah, huh yeah, this man's Fox
Sports Radio. What do you mean like, we don't we
don't have poll in this place?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Come on, I didn't even see Did I see you
on the on the field?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
No, because you were at the you were still doing
the tailgate. So we we walked in for a minute
because we had to catch a flight so we had
to leave leave later on. But oh yeah, fun game,
fun atmosphere, fun environment.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
He didn't want to go to the pregame practice. Bro,
And I just thought that that was really really strange.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
But you know, hey to each his all, yep, well
I know this. You know, Jonas, we got some leaks.
Uh oh, we got some leaks.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah. According to Jordan Schultz, long lost front of the program,
I believe there was an attempt to get him on
thirty two times and never actually happened for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I wonder how we put that on.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
But according to according to Jordan Schultz, the season opener,
the Wednesday night, hosted by the Super Bowl champion, as tradition,
will be the Seattle Seahawks hosting the New England Patriots. Yes,
so I'm talking about because the Super Bowl was so exciting,
(11:47):
let's run that one back, please, let's lay We were
desperately need to see that again. So there was some
speculation maybe it would be the Bears. Mike Wilbond made
those comments and people kind of ran with them, myself included.
But as it turns out, according to Jordan Schultz, who
was never shy about, you know, giving out information, maybe premature.
According to Jordan Schultz, it is going to be the
(12:08):
New England Patriots at the Seattle Seahawks to open up
the season coming up on Wednesday, September ninth. I don't
get it.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Just offer it up on a platter, huh.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I mean, do you think because I don't, I don't
want to go down this road again, but all right,
screw it. Do you think that there was maybe a
thought that there's going to be a lot of very
interested people based on the off season the Patriots have had.
I want to see how they look? Okay, So you
(12:42):
do think that that was part of the offer? Why not?
Because the game topic, the game was awful? NBC had
that game, you would think NBC would be like, no,
we're good here, we saw that one already, so why
else would you put New England?
Speaker 6 (12:57):
They might do better again this time.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I don't think NBC gets to choose, dude.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
So how does it work, dang dude.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
The NFL puts out the schedule, and then there's kind
of a draft between the networks that have the rights
to it, and sometimes there's trades in between.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
But yeah, that's typically how it works.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I mean, Patsyhawks, get ready, everybody, that's the.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
One, Diana's Patriots, that's the one.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
To sue to sue.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
You know, come on, it's been a quiet week for them.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Hey, they're about to attack Brady. Whatever, Brad, he's about
to be under siege.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (13:46):
I don't know. It sounds like they're about to come
through the door.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Oh no, it's our puppy.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh I'll bring him in.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
No, no, no, no, that's what I used to show.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
I'm not sure what I still do what this is
going on, but yeah, no, he's I thought that he's
all fired.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Up this morning.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Has he been warriors coming to get you?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Has he been dropping bombs around the house?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Or is he starting to.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Figure he did do one which I was trying to
explain to my kids. I'm like, hey, we've there's three
of you up right now. How did none of you
pay attention to the puppy that we got that we
all said we were gonna have, you know, help raise
and pay attention to. So a lot of teaching lessons
right now with the kiddos, because they all wanted the
puppy and when it comes time to actually take care
(14:32):
of it, obviously, as you find out as a parent,
they don't really come through with that.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So yeah, yeah, no, they lose interest, even the big ones,
they lose interest, like, oh, he's not your pet. Home
every once in a while you brush him. You know
who's flow being sticks me? You know who has to
go up and scoop and score with them big old
pals out for those big pee big pals.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You know, I never understood about that. People that don't
clean up after their dog. Do you know?
Speaker 6 (15:03):
It easy?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It is just to clean it up and throw it
in the neighbor's yard. It's not that difficult. I don't
understand why it's this problem to where people just leave
it out, just scoop.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
It right up. But you'll get the same flies from you.
It's still in the neighbor's yard.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
God bless my my neighbors in Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Man, I felt so bad. I just man, it was
dead of winter.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Well, we would have the dogs poop in a certain
spot of our yard, and apparently it went it bumped
up to their yard and they had this machine that
would pump in fresh air throughout their house and so
it would like circulate it. And uh, that happen to
be right next to the spot where the dogs in
our yard would go take a dump.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
And so and by the way, it smelled awful.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Because one of them was like a puppy when we
got her, and she uh for whatever, and just she
wasn't taking to the food really well.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
And it's just it smelled terrible, like I'll never forget.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
One time she had an accident inside and I we
could not get that smell out of our nose for
like a week.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
But the poor neighbor came over and I was like,
can you please stop letting.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Your dogs poop in that part of your yard? And
mind you, it was freezing outside, so like this stuff,
it'd be laid down there so it would smell for
a while, then it would freeze up, then it'd fall
back out and the smell would it just it kept
hitting them And I was like, oh, man, like they're
(16:38):
already trained now to go to that spot, Like I
don't know if we train them to go to a
different spot. So I tried my best to dig up
all the frozen turns. But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Is that the quarterback for the Chiefs whose dogs are
fumigating our house?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
It was so bad, man, that smell I felt. I
was like, oh, that's going to their house, I said,
thought I felt terrible about that.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
I was even offering him like, can we not turn
your thing like a different direction?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Maybe they're not let it be downwind of the crap.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah it's gross, but hey, you know what, Hey, some
people live across from like processing plants, you know what
I mean, Like you know them sanitation plants. I drove
passed one when I was in Maryland. Hit to the uh,
hit to the harbor. Got what that was? Almost forgot
(17:31):
what that smell was. Like you ever drive drive past
one of them?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Yeah? Oh yeah, wo ooh didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It just makes you realize how funky we are, man
like we are. We are funky as hell, broh, and.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
How full of it we are?
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Oh man, oh man.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
It's just probably knowing more than Jonas though, but he
does always get the job done.
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Speaker 3 (18:07):
Hell yeah, thanks man. It is two pros and a
cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. Up next, we have
some people who think they've got an idea. I'm going
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Speaker 6 (18:22):
Right here.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
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Speaker 3 (19:14):
All right, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox
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Coming up at about twenty minutes from now, we're going
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the way, did you guys see this uh Matt rule
nil deal that's going on at Nebraska? This apparently this
(20:00):
according to the Omaha World Herald that Nebraska's paid five
million dollars to Rules LLC for the rights to his
intellectual property, as well as his name, image and likeness.
Said the funds provided through a donor now give Nebraska
the contractual right to monetize Rules House Rules podcast, as
(20:21):
well as the right to sell memorabilia with Rules.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Face on it.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So hey, everybody's get getting a piece of this whole pie. Good?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Well, yeah, if you can find an outside entity to
pay a coach or compensate the coach. It circumvents any
cap they would potentially put in a way I woul
assume lessly got challenged. But also it saves more money
from the university having to pay him and goes someone
else doing it.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
So kind of works out if you think about it.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I mean, we say nil, and it's it's become synonymous
with college athletics. But nil is everything you know in
anything really, you know, you create, create brand value to
any name.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Any image, or likeness. You know, it's monetizable.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So he clearly has a monetizable asset in his podcast,
and and so they're they're investing in it. But again
that's you know, I feel like that's almost code for washing,
Like you know, you you're you're you're taking care of them.
Well you know, I mean, it's it's legit. But you know,
(21:39):
I mean that is interesting. I mean, do you have
are there any real conversations on what coaches are able
to do outside of their coaching coaching responsibilities. I mean,
if you have a podcast, which coaches should have a podcast?
Coach coaches should have a show. I've always said that,
(22:02):
In fact, I you know, what I've done in the
last three years at Penn State is try to create
a personal a personal podcast or a show. I mean,
everything is about content. Everything is about communication. The best
thing that a coach can do is have an open
line of communication that isn't you know, altered by any
(22:24):
you know, reporters or any type of questioning that is
going to come their way, and actually just have a conversation.
You know, that's to me, I think that that's a
it would be a big bonus. I know some coaches
may not be comfortable with that or be good enough
to do it, but it is the wave of the
future and it certainly would be smart for brand building,
(22:46):
for the coach themselves to build a rapport with their
their community. But it would also be uh strategically, it
would be sound because you can, you know, you can
do what like a lot of athletes are doing these days,
which is leveraging content to push your agenda.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I mean stops out to Matt rule for what it's worth.
I mean, I'm an assistant coach of my son's little
league team, and I've got this show, the Jonas Knox Show,
which you can hear Saturdays here on on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
You're joking around. But the funny thing is is that
you could actually create a movement in a following off
of coaching your little league, your son's little league.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
We did it was called piss poor umpiring yesterday. Yeah
we yeah, we talked about them. That's fair yesterday. Yeah, stops.
There's no joke there. You saw the call guy butchered it.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
It was horrible. It was a horrible. But but those
are things you could create.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
You could create like podcasts only have to be like
fifteen minutes long. You know, sometimes on the on the
longer side, it's like forty minutes. But you could do
a fifteen minute segment on just that video of that
dude throwing a calling a strike with the ball over
the kids.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
It was wearing out.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Fourteen interested in it. They would be interested because you
know how many other people. It's like it's like with
anything else. Right person comes out, he says, oh, he
you know he did this to me. Next thing, you know,
twenty other people come out saying, oh, he did the same.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Exact thing to me.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Well you do that with baseball or with your kid.
You're like, you know, there was an umpire that did
that to me? Is not then you start getting a
following that's all.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, Well they have whatever, you know, lost opportunity.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
You just don't put that type of work in though.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
That's all I know, man, I know, do this and
then you go home and you know, I tell me
about it. Just stay at home, mom, tell me about it.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That's what I do.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Try to shame you.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, is what it is. I do know this that
Jim fill.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Out of money though, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah. Jim's Philip. Jim Phillips, the ACC Commissioner, was speaking
about some changes potentially to the College Football Playoff and
apparently there's momentum building a lot of people in favor
and voting him and other coaches in the ACC for
a twenty four team playoff model. And he spoke yesterday,
(25:07):
when you're.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
Leaving national championship contending teams, university schools out of the playoff,
you don't have the right number.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
We lived through it.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
We suffered through it with Florida State when the field
was for and I know other schools have suffered for it.
And I've said this, you know, very directly. Notre Dame
was a CFP worthy team this year. They just were.
And if you're going to ask presents and chancellors and
(25:40):
boards to continue to invest in their football programs, it's
really important that they have hope that they have an
opportunity at the beginning of the season to get into
the playoff.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So that's the key right there. What he said, the
last part, that's the key. But god, yeah, go.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Well, so then what if that's the case, because it
feels like there's momentum building there. I think the SEC
is pushing for a sixteen team playoff. The Big ten,
the ACC air in favor for the most part of
twenty four. I know Mario Cristobals said, you know, he
doesn't like it, you know, and he's got his reasons
because he says, you know, what are we doing with
the regular season conference championships? That's what I wonder. If
(26:21):
this is the direction we're going, what does happen to.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
The regular season.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Yeah, So there's there's some interesting thoughts about this because
if you look at the cause.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
And effect of Notre Dame USC, for.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Example, with the playoff as it currently stands, SC doesn't
want to play that game. They don't want to have
to put another tough opponent on their schedule already having
to deal with the Big ten schedule.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
So now they want to expend a twenty four.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
It's like weholl by the way, those talks never died
about this ride, but we're trying to.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Bring it back. But the earliest we can bring it
back is twenty thirty.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Which I think most people believe there will be expansion
probably to twenty four teams for the playoff by that
point in time, and so it makes it more feasible
to drop a game to Notre Dame and still be
able to make it in as one of those twenty
four at large bids, which is one of the things
that's been proposed. So in one thought, people think, well,
it kind of takes away from the meaning or value
(27:14):
of the regular season, but in reality it doesn't, because
what it actually does is allow teams to have those
big time matchups and not be scared of creating a
schedule with some of those tough non conference opponents, because ultimately,
if you drop a game or two or three, especially
in this case if it's twenty four, you'll still be
(27:35):
able to make the playoff, which is ultimately the goal.
So in actuality, it will create better matchups during the
course of the regular season.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Now doesn't make the outcome of those games as meaningful.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
No, But if you incentivize, depending on how they structure
the twenty four team playoff, if you incentivize the teams
that excel, you know by for example, creating buys, which
we have.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Now you know that means you're.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Playing one less game, you have extra time to prepare
to recover. You know you're looking at it then saying okay,
there is a prize to all this. Now what gets sacrificed.
It be the conference championships. Those are the games because
of the way the calendar would work that would get
sacrificed where we would no longer have those. We would
have to have conferences figure out how they want to
(28:22):
deem their teams as conference champions. And honestly, I would
be in favor of a world where we went to
ten conference games and only two non conference schedules.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Now, in saying that, who does that hurt the most?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Probably Notre Dame because now you're working with less opportunities
to play some of those non conference games that their
aim has to figure out how they're going to schedule
aside from the five.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Acc per their agreement.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
But the reason why I like ten is I think
it gives you a more truer indication of what those
teams are doing within their conference. It still continues to
build on the current media rights the way they stand
at this time, and I think you're allowed to then
have a truer champion for those conferences because they've played
(29:08):
more games within conference. Because otherwise, as big as than
these conferences are, there's gonna be teams that really didn't
have as many you know, crossover games or you know,
similar opponents. So I don't even know if they fall
within the same record, how you can even compare the two.
But again, does it matter, like if we go to
a twenty four team playoff? I mean, all we're really
talking about is trying to put enough really good teams
(29:29):
in there to be able to go play for a
national championship.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
And we look at the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Does anyone remember who won the ACC last year, whether
that's the regular season the tournament that like, or do
we remember that or do we remember who the national
champion was?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I mean that's the hard part about.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
This is when to me, if it dilutes anything, it's
not actually the regular season, because the regular season is
going to set up the seating and positioning for those
teams in the playoff loots and pushes away. Is the
conference championships like those now become meaningless, which then leads
(30:08):
to the question.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Of what are the conferences really matter?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
If that's the case, I think he said it super
clearly at the end of his statement, is that you
have to give the people that are within your within
your ecosystem hope. I think sometimes that kind of becomes
tainted by some of these how the success that some
(30:33):
of these schools have, and.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
It's just it's just, you know, it's a given. Like
if you're in.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
The SEC, if you're at the top of the SEC,
fans know that we're most likely going to make it
to the playoffs. At least we have a great chance
of making it to the playoffs. But then you go
into these you know, the ACC, that's not the reality.
You know, you you go into the lower parts or
(31:03):
the mid parts of the SEC and the Big Ten,
that's not the reality, let alone any other conference that's
out there. There's no real You gotta sell some type
of hope. If there's a college playoff and you go
into the season. Just imagine if you're one of these schools,
you go into the college season and it's like, ah,
(31:25):
you know, we have no shot at making this field none.
It just to me. I think that's what probably programs
are facing. This is what conferences are facing, is that
there is no real opportunity to win a national title.
(31:46):
If there's no real opportunity to win a national title.
And I'm this school, I'm chairing my team on, but
I'm just cheering them on from a casual standpoint, I'm
not really cheering them on. Maybe it's a conference title
an appearance. You're happy about that if you're if you
got a chance to go to your conference championship. But
if you're not going into the college football playoff, what
(32:08):
is the real investment going to be from your community?
If you can't sell that hope, at least in the
off season going into the regular season, how do you
sell tickets, How do you sell hope?
Speaker 6 (32:23):
How do you sell buy in.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And support financially and participation wise. I think it's a
very very real challenge that some of these schools and
some of these conferences are facing.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
So there is some thoughts on that as well too
as far as what how that's different from from other
years in the past and how it's always been. But
I know we're up against it here, so let's we'll
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about the conversation that is ongoing. It's continued more and
more the twenty four team playoff, The ACC, the Big
ten in favor of it. The SEC is talking about,
you know, a sixteen team playoff, but nonetheless it's going
to be expanding.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
And every Power conference as well as Notre Dame, is
in favor of the twenty four team expansion or playoff, with.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
The exception of the SEC. That's right, and so you
have to ask yourself, why is that? Why does the
SEC only want to.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Expand to sixteen teams as compared to every other power
conference is well as Notre Dame, And it's it's a
fairly simple response. ESPN, who holds all the cards to
the current playoff format, would have to open bid the
playoff if it goes to twenty four teams per the agreement.
(35:18):
If it stays at sixteen, ESPN still stays in control.
If it goes to twenty four, there's a lot more
games and access for networks to be a part of it.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
And so it's just.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Kind of funny that the sole network of the SEC
is behind all of this, in my opinion, pulling the
strings and saying, ah, we're not sure we like.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
This quite as much.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
So why would you.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
And that's one response to it, like, why would you
want them to expand it if they have all the
control of it right now? Now, some would say that's
not great for the sport of college football, But when
it comes down to it, the Big Ten of the
SEC are the only two conferences that really matter because
they have to come.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
To an agreement.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Once those two come to an agreement, that's what the
expanded playoff format will look like. So until the SEC
budgets as much as the Big Ten wants to go
to twenty four, as much as the Big Twelve and
the ACC and Notre.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Dame and you know everyone else, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
And look that might be you know, every coach we
heard heard about Mario Cristobal saying at twenty four be
too much. There's some coaches who feel that way, but
by and large, it's the majority of every conference or
the exception of the SEC feels that there should be
an expansion to twenty four. So take that for what
it's worth. But that's ultimately, you know, why we are
(36:45):
where we are at this juncture. It's still not going
to be good enough. That's the funny thing. Like they're
still going There are people that think they're going to
benefit from an expanded field, and they're going to get
shafted no differently than what they have the entire time,
and that's going to be a harsh reality. You can't
(37:05):
you cannot appease everyone, you can't win with everyone.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Somebody's going to be a loser in this. And that's
the bottom line. And twenty four you know what, You
know why the big conferences are okay with it because again,
it's giving more opportunities to get more teams in, which
makes your conference more prestigious.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
It actually could have.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
The transverse reaction on some of these schools that are
thinking that, oh, twenty four teams, that means we have
a chance, guys, No, you don't. That Just all it
means is that there's going to be more schools from
the Big ten and from the SEC that go into
the playoff. And now that conference becomes more attractive, and
(37:52):
the teams that aren't at the top become more attractive
because you got an opportunity to make it into the playoffs.
Clear recruiting opportunity and advantage. An asset that this could
turn into if that were to be what it turns into,
and you would have to assume that's what this will
turn into.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Anytime there's something that's voted on, you're going to have
somebody who feels like they got slided, like that's it
happens with college basketball. You know, I don't know about now,
they've got one hundred and five teams that are in
now or whatever it is. But with college football, there's
always a complaint. If it was you know, four teams
that got in the fifth and six teams felled screwed.
You know, if it's twelve, the thirteenth, and fourteen, that's
always going to be the case. I just look at
(38:34):
it and go, I don't know that it really changes
much because I think you're still going to have the
usual suspects at the end of the day that are
going to be the best teams in the sport. You'll
have some outliers occasionally, and you'll have a team like
Indiana who will pop up and you know, hit big
and they'll go on a run. But I still feel
(38:55):
like you're going to have the same teams that are
going to be near the top of college football's landscape.
Whether it's twelve, twenty four, I feel like there's a
pretty good idea of who's going to be there at
the end in mind.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Well, look, there's a reason why there's traditional blue bloods.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
But that's I mean, look at again, other programs that
haven't been a part of it, right, Like Indiana has
been a part of they won a national championship. You know,
we couldn't say that four years ago. Vanderbilt was knocking
on the door for it. So as much as we'd
like to say that, I don't know that that's necessarily true.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
I mean it seems like and granted I'm not necessarily.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
One that believes like we need to be inclusive for
the sake of being inclusive. In this case, I mean,
there's one hundred and thirty eight Division one men's football programs,
so having twenty four teams in is.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
What was that take?
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Seventeen percent something like that, So it's not like that's
a huge percentage. And I do think if you go
to twenty four it'll stabilize and stay there for a while,
because how long have we had sixty eight four? Did
we look that up? Like, wasn't that back during the
early two thousands or something? Yeah, we expanded for the
playing games and it'd been that way for twenty plus
(40:05):
years until we just added on an additional eight. So
I think if they go to twenty four, the expansion
of the playoffs stops there, and hopefully you find a
way of formatic that makes it work. I think the
toughest thing about the playoff is we went from four
to twelve, and each year we keep saying, oh, it's
not enough, it's not enough. Well, at this case, I
look at it and just saying twenty four be the
(40:26):
stopping point for me. You can't go any more than that,
just surely based on the calendar. But more so than that,
I don't know that you need to, like, do we
really need to argue for the twenty fifth, twenty sixth
best team in the country.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
And I also think that there's enough teams out there
that realize, you know what, we got no shot at
this whole thing. But let's go have fun Saturday. Why
not let's go drink Waste management baby,
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Speaker 1 (00:42):
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want me to smile. They will never ever take my crown.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Jammin.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Oh god, song sounds different every time I hear it.
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, it sounds like it gets worse every time.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Huh No, I was gonna say it sounds like a
news song every time I hear it.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Oh oh wow, I thought the true you were getting that.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It's a different version. I ain't gonna lie. It's a
little off from the original. The original is a little
bit more grittier. This one is a little bit more different.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
What does that mean?
Speaker 6 (01:33):
A little different?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
The remix it's not the original is the original? Could
you play the original on radio?
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Or is that?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah? Yeah, you could play the original. It sounds a
lot different. It's a little bit more straight to it.
You know, let's get straight to this. It's two pros
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(02:17):
Did we find the gritty version of of whatever that
song is?
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Why? I just want to double check who was the artist?
Far Sizzler?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I love that place, lah okay, hold.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
On, it sounds a little different.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
It has to just you know, they got to get this,
you guys, big Sizzler guys growing up.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
No, No, didn't have Sizzlers, you didn't. That's their original.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, it sounds like a new song.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Well, this one is the original. I know, that's right.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Someone they wanted me to frown stood at my grounds.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
They will never ever take my crown.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Let's started, man, carden.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
It's way different. It's way different.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
You can't hear to settle the it's it's it's way different.
It's it's way yeah. Why can't he hear the because
he said he didn't hear it? He said didn't sound different.
That's way different. That that's like, that's the one.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I like this one better.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
This one is better. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
The other one is a little bit more like almost like, uh,
what you do when you sing the words on the
on the dip?
Speaker 6 (03:47):
What what is that called karaoke?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Karaoke version?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, hey, you don't learn learn something new every day.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
So there.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I wasn't gonna say anything though, but what do you
mean a different version that scissor?
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Man?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
All you can eat? Love that salad bar It's great. Man,
steak's not great.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
You would love salad bar. I like the variety, you know. Yeah, yeah,
what's your favorite salad?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Hmm, it's probably a caesar salad.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I was going, you're thinking of toss salad, weren't you?
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Damn I refuse.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I was just saying what everyone's thinking that think.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
What about a wedge salad? Solid?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I love wedg salads well.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Blue cheese. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You want to touch it, and I prefer jelly.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Let me ask you this, egg salad, macaroni salad, potato salad.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Gotta rank them, It depends, It depends. Egg salad is
an easy win. But if you'd make a hell of
a potato salad, you could be number one.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
A bad potato salad.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Like and I know that's gonna it's gonna expose something here.
If you put grapes in your potato salad, that is
last on the list.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
What about raisins?
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Same thing.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Potato salad. Potato salad is meant for. Just that they
didn't call it grape salad. They didn't call it raisin salad.
They called it potato salad. Yeah, it's don't be putting.
Don't be putting no grapes or no raisins in your
potato salad.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I mean, it's it's potato, it's macaroni, and then it's egg.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Because the problem I was about to say it really
runs into the lane of egg salad. Like a potato
salad really should taste taste almost like an egg salad
with potatoes in it, kind of sort of, So there
you go.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Hey, see, we accomplished a lot right there.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
The other ones. What were the other onesto.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Potato eggs.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Sound of macaroni salad, Yeah, macaroni salad is pretty good
when you're eating like Hawaiian barbecue, it goes pretty well.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Oh yeah, it goes pretty well with it with the
bee fribs. Oh that sounds so good.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Well, I just yeah, I don't know if she's what's
wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I don't think she can help herself.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
She really can't.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I just think, you know, I just think the meat
on the bone.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Let me tell you something, it's maybe the most perfect
fit for this show that's ever been, that's ever happened.
You know, love Roberto, still miss him, love I with Sam,
still talk to him. Lorena, you stepped in nicely.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Filled it. You filled in the gap definitely as well.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
But we're her sloppy second though. I don't know, man,
I just feel like she's a little bit more loyal
to the to the mall Ord militia.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
My bagel guy mentioned the meet and greets, and we
were curious why we don't do some meet and greets.
You know, we should do it as a team. Lebar's
go into activations.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
I'm all about it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I don't get it.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
That's funny.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Get out in these streets, come to the practice. No,
I don't want to come. You're right, I don't want
to do it. I told listen. I told you guys
at the time. I didn't like James Franklin's culture and
I just wasn't going to be a part of it.
I didn't want to subject my saying you called money. Yeah,
I just didn't want to be I didn't want to
(07:53):
didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Come on, no, what's it now? Like he was a little,
a little can't mote like, what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I'm just going to go walk.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Just want to cruise around, man, want to just want
to cruise around by myself. Want to see State College.
I've heard things, beautiful place. I want to go cruise around.
It's awesome.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
But you didn't want to meet Jack Cam Like what.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I didn't think you guys circling back around in an
uber and telling me to go f myself in public
was the polite thing to do.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But that'd be ten dollars. Ten dollars, that'll be ten dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
We went and got something to eat me LeVar and
what's his name?
Speaker 4 (08:35):
And then we uh.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
They went to go to the practice and I said, yeah,
I'm not going to go. I want to go cruise.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Around, and you don't want to go see I just
want to go cruise around.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
The pregame practice.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And they circled Jack Ham would be there. You'll get
to meet Jack and he's like, yeah, no, not interested.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And so I'm just kind of minding my own business,
just looking at the beautiful scenery and State College, and
all of a sudden, the same over that we arrived
in turned back around, window rolls down and you just
see LeVar yell out a few white ass bitch and
then they just drove off. And I said, all right,
that'd be ten dollars. And I said the twenty dollars.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
That'd be twenty dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Wait was this now You're saying I'm hollering out like
racial obscenities to you to like, it's twenty dollars.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Man, Well it's your babe, it was the other guy.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Hold On, maybe it was the other guy.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Hold On?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Were were you and I together at that bar where
we were smalling cigars and drinking beforehand?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
You weren't there no, this was at the well.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
There was one time when I was there with you
far I just wasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Sure we were at we were at the Nitney line
in Uh yeah, this is a different time.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
This was the Graduate remote. We did it from the
Graduate Hotel and then they played Illinois that day Penn
State played Illinois.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Was was that? I don't know. It was a night game,
wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it was pretty fun that place anyway,
that place. Now you weren't there though, If if anybody
wants to get out to a Penn State game, just
to walk through that tunnel into the stadium is awesome.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
How did you get into the stadium that way?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
You know, I just made made a couple of connections,
a couple of calls. Yeah, huh yeah, this man's Fox
Sports Radio. What do you mean like, we don't we
don't have poll in this place?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Come on, I didn't even see Did I see you
on the on the field?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
No, because you were at the you were still doing
the tailgate. So we we walked in for a minute
because we had to catch a flight so we had
to leave leave later on. But oh yeah, fun game,
fun atmosphere, fun environment.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
He didn't want to go to the pregame practice. Bro,
And I just thought that that was really really strange.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
But you know, hey to each his all, yep, well
I know this. You know, Jonas, we got some leaks.
Uh oh, we got some leaks.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah. According to Jordan Schultz, long lost front of the program,
I believe there was an attempt to get him on
thirty two times and never actually happened for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I wonder how we put that on.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
But according to according to Jordan Schultz, the season opener,
the Wednesday night, hosted by the Super Bowl champion, as tradition,
will be the Seattle Seahawks hosting the New England Patriots. Yes,
so I'm talking about because the Super Bowl was so exciting,
(11:47):
let's run that one back, please, let's lay We were
desperately need to see that again. So there was some
speculation maybe it would be the Bears. Mike Wilbond made
those comments and people kind of ran with them, myself included.
But as it turns out, according to Jordan Schultz, who
was never shy about, you know, giving out information, maybe premature.
According to Jordan Schultz, it is going to be the
(12:08):
New England Patriots at the Seattle Seahawks to open up
the season coming up on Wednesday, September ninth. I don't
get it.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Just offer it up on a platter, huh.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I mean, do you think because I don't, I don't
want to go down this road again, but all right,
screw it. Do you think that there was maybe a
thought that there's going to be a lot of very
interested people based on the off season the Patriots have had.
I want to see how they look? Okay, So you
(12:42):
do think that that was part of the offer? Why not?
Because the game topic, the game was awful? NBC had
that game, you would think NBC would be like, no,
we're good here, we saw that one already, so why
else would you put New England?
Speaker 6 (12:57):
They might do better again this time.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I don't think NBC gets to choose, dude.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
So how does it work, dang dude.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
The NFL puts out the schedule, and then there's kind
of a draft between the networks that have the rights
to it, and sometimes there's trades in between.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
But yeah, that's typically how it works.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I mean, Patsyhawks, get ready, everybody, that's the.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
One, Diana's Patriots, that's the one.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
To sue to sue.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
You know, come on, it's been a quiet week for them.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Hey, they're about to attack Brady. Whatever, Brad, he's about
to be under siege.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (13:46):
I don't know. It sounds like they're about to come
through the door.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Oh no, it's our puppy.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh I'll bring him in.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
No, no, no, no, that's what I used to show.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
I'm not sure what I still do what this is
going on, but yeah, no, he's I thought that he's
all fired.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Up this morning.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Has he been warriors coming to get you?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Has he been dropping bombs around the house?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Or is he starting to.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Figure he did do one which I was trying to
explain to my kids. I'm like, hey, we've there's three
of you up right now. How did none of you
pay attention to the puppy that we got that we
all said we were gonna have, you know, help raise
and pay attention to. So a lot of teaching lessons
right now with the kiddos, because they all wanted the
puppy and when it comes time to actually take care
(14:32):
of it, obviously, as you find out as a parent,
they don't really come through with that.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So yeah, yeah, no, they lose interest, even the big ones,
they lose interest, like, oh, he's not your pet. Home
every once in a while you brush him. You know
who's flow being sticks me? You know who has to
go up and scoop and score with them big old
pals out for those big pee big pals.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You know, I never understood about that. People that don't
clean up after their dog. Do you know?
Speaker 6 (15:03):
It easy?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It is just to clean it up and throw it
in the neighbor's yard. It's not that difficult. I don't
understand why it's this problem to where people just leave
it out, just scoop.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
It right up. But you'll get the same flies from you.
It's still in the neighbor's yard.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
God bless my my neighbors in Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Man, I felt so bad. I just man, it was
dead of winter.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Well, we would have the dogs poop in a certain
spot of our yard, and apparently it went it bumped
up to their yard and they had this machine that
would pump in fresh air throughout their house and so
it would like circulate it. And uh, that happen to
be right next to the spot where the dogs in
our yard would go take a dump.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
And so and by the way, it smelled awful.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Because one of them was like a puppy when we
got her, and she uh for whatever, and just she
wasn't taking to the food really well.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
And it's just it smelled terrible, like I'll never forget.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
One time she had an accident inside and I we
could not get that smell out of our nose for
like a week.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
But the poor neighbor came over and I was like,
can you please stop letting.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Your dogs poop in that part of your yard? And
mind you, it was freezing outside, so like this stuff,
it'd be laid down there so it would smell for
a while, then it would freeze up, then it'd fall
back out and the smell would it just it kept
hitting them And I was like, oh, man, like they're
(16:38):
already trained now to go to that spot, Like I
don't know if we train them to go to a
different spot. So I tried my best to dig up
all the frozen turns. But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Is that the quarterback for the Chiefs whose dogs are
fumigating our house?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
It was so bad, man, that smell I felt. I
was like, oh, that's going to their house, I said,
thought I felt terrible about that.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
I was even offering him like, can we not turn
your thing like a different direction?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Maybe they're not let it be downwind of the crap.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah it's gross, but hey, you know what, Hey, some
people live across from like processing plants, you know what
I mean, Like you know them sanitation plants. I drove
passed one when I was in Maryland. Hit to the uh,
hit to the harbor. Got what that was? Almost forgot
(17:31):
what that smell was. Like you ever drive drive past
one of them?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Yeah? Oh yeah, wo ooh didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It just makes you realize how funky we are, man
like we are. We are funky as hell, broh, and.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
How full of it we are?
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Oh man, oh man.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
It's just probably knowing more than Jonas though, but he
does always get the job done.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
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the way, did you guys see this uh Matt rule
nil deal that's going on at Nebraska? This apparently this
(20:00):
according to the Omaha World Herald that Nebraska's paid five
million dollars to Rules LLC for the rights to his
intellectual property, as well as his name, image and likeness.
Said the funds provided through a donor now give Nebraska
the contractual right to monetize Rules House Rules podcast, as
(20:21):
well as the right to sell memorabilia with Rules.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Face on it.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So hey, everybody's get getting a piece of this whole pie. Good?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Well, yeah, if you can find an outside entity to
pay a coach or compensate the coach. It circumvents any
cap they would potentially put in a way I woul
assume lessly got challenged. But also it saves more money
from the university having to pay him and goes someone
else doing it.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
So kind of works out if you think about it.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I mean, we say nil, and it's it's become synonymous
with college athletics. But nil is everything you know in
anything really, you know, you create, create brand value to
any name.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Any image, or likeness. You know, it's monetizable.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So he clearly has a monetizable asset in his podcast,
and and so they're they're investing in it. But again
that's you know, I feel like that's almost code for washing,
Like you know, you you're you're you're taking care of them.
Well you know, I mean, it's it's legit. But you know,
(21:39):
I mean that is interesting. I mean, do you have
are there any real conversations on what coaches are able
to do outside of their coaching coaching responsibilities. I mean,
if you have a podcast, which coaches should have a podcast?
Coach coaches should have a show. I've always said that,
(22:02):
In fact, I you know, what I've done in the
last three years at Penn State is try to create
a personal a personal podcast or a show. I mean,
everything is about content. Everything is about communication. The best
thing that a coach can do is have an open
line of communication that isn't you know, altered by any
(22:24):
you know, reporters or any type of questioning that is
going to come their way, and actually just have a conversation.
You know, that's to me, I think that that's a
it would be a big bonus. I know some coaches
may not be comfortable with that or be good enough
to do it, but it is the wave of the
future and it certainly would be smart for brand building,
(22:46):
for the coach themselves to build a rapport with their
their community. But it would also be uh strategically, it
would be sound because you can, you know, you can
do what like a lot of athletes are doing these days,
which is leveraging content to push your agenda.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I mean stops out to Matt rule for what it's worth.
I mean, I'm an assistant coach of my son's little
league team, and I've got this show, the Jonas Knox Show,
which you can hear Saturdays here on on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
You're joking around. But the funny thing is is that
you could actually create a movement in a following off
of coaching your little league, your son's little league.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
We did it was called piss poor umpiring yesterday. Yeah
we yeah, we talked about them. That's fair yesterday. Yeah, stops.
There's no joke there. You saw the call guy butchered it.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
It was horrible. It was a horrible. But but those
are things you could create.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
You could create like podcasts only have to be like
fifteen minutes long. You know, sometimes on the on the
longer side, it's like forty minutes. But you could do
a fifteen minute segment on just that video of that
dude throwing a calling a strike with the ball over
the kids.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
It was wearing out.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Fourteen interested in it. They would be interested because you
know how many other people. It's like it's like with
anything else. Right person comes out, he says, oh, he
you know he did this to me. Next thing, you know,
twenty other people come out saying, oh, he did the same.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Exact thing to me.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Well you do that with baseball or with your kid.
You're like, you know, there was an umpire that did
that to me? Is not then you start getting a
following that's all.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, Well they have whatever, you know, lost opportunity.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
You just don't put that type of work in though.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
That's all I know, man, I know, do this and
then you go home and you know, I tell me
about it. Just stay at home, mom, tell me about it.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That's what I do.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Try to shame you.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, is what it is. I do know this that
Jim fill.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Out of money though, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah. Jim's Philip. Jim Phillips, the ACC Commissioner, was speaking
about some changes potentially to the College Football Playoff and
apparently there's momentum building a lot of people in favor
and voting him and other coaches in the ACC for
a twenty four team playoff model. And he spoke yesterday,
(25:07):
when you're.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
Leaving national championship contending teams, university schools out of the playoff,
you don't have the right number.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
We lived through it.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
We suffered through it with Florida State when the field
was for and I know other schools have suffered for it.
And I've said this, you know, very directly. Notre Dame
was a CFP worthy team this year. They just were.
And if you're going to ask presents and chancellors and
(25:40):
boards to continue to invest in their football programs, it's
really important that they have hope that they have an
opportunity at the beginning of the season to get into
the playoff.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So that's the key right there. What he said, the
last part, that's the key. But god, yeah, go.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Well, so then what if that's the case, because it
feels like there's momentum building there. I think the SEC
is pushing for a sixteen team playoff. The Big ten,
the ACC air in favor for the most part of
twenty four. I know Mario Cristobals said, you know, he
doesn't like it, you know, and he's got his reasons
because he says, you know, what are we doing with
the regular season conference championships? That's what I wonder. If
(26:21):
this is the direction we're going, what does happen to.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
The regular season.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Yeah, So there's there's some interesting thoughts about this because
if you look at the cause.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
And effect of Notre Dame USC, for.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Example, with the playoff as it currently stands, SC doesn't
want to play that game. They don't want to have
to put another tough opponent on their schedule already having
to deal with the Big ten schedule.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
So now they want to expend a twenty four.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
It's like weholl by the way, those talks never died
about this ride, but we're trying to.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Bring it back. But the earliest we can bring it
back is twenty thirty.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Which I think most people believe there will be expansion
probably to twenty four teams for the playoff by that
point in time, and so it makes it more feasible
to drop a game to Notre Dame and still be
able to make it in as one of those twenty
four at large bids, which is one of the things
that's been proposed. So in one thought, people think, well,
it kind of takes away from the meaning or value
(27:14):
of the regular season, but in reality it doesn't, because
what it actually does is allow teams to have those
big time matchups and not be scared of creating a
schedule with some of those tough non conference opponents, because ultimately,
if you drop a game or two or three, especially
in this case if it's twenty four, you'll still be
(27:35):
able to make the playoff, which is ultimately the goal.
So in actuality, it will create better matchups during the
course of the regular season.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Now doesn't make the outcome of those games as meaningful.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
No, But if you incentivize, depending on how they structure
the twenty four team playoff, if you incentivize the teams
that excel, you know by for example, creating buys, which
we have.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Now you know that means you're.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Playing one less game, you have extra time to prepare
to recover. You know you're looking at it then saying okay,
there is a prize to all this. Now what gets sacrificed.
It be the conference championships. Those are the games because
of the way the calendar would work that would get
sacrificed where we would no longer have those. We would
have to have conferences figure out how they want to
(28:22):
deem their teams as conference champions. And honestly, I would
be in favor of a world where we went to
ten conference games and only two non conference schedules.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Now, in saying that, who does that hurt the most?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Probably Notre Dame because now you're working with less opportunities
to play some of those non conference games that their
aim has to figure out how they're going to schedule
aside from the five.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Acc per their agreement.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
But the reason why I like ten is I think
it gives you a more truer indication of what those
teams are doing within their conference. It still continues to
build on the current media rights the way they stand
at this time, and I think you're allowed to then
have a truer champion for those conferences because they've played
(29:08):
more games within conference. Because otherwise, as big as than
these conferences are, there's gonna be teams that really didn't
have as many you know, crossover games or you know,
similar opponents. So I don't even know if they fall
within the same record, how you can even compare the two.
But again, does it matter, like if we go to
a twenty four team playoff? I mean, all we're really
talking about is trying to put enough really good teams
(29:29):
in there to be able to go play for a
national championship.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
And we look at the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Does anyone remember who won the ACC last year, whether
that's the regular season the tournament that like, or do
we remember that or do we remember who the national
champion was?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I mean that's the hard part about.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
This is when to me, if it dilutes anything, it's
not actually the regular season, because the regular season is
going to set up the seating and positioning for those
teams in the playoff loots and pushes away. Is the
conference championships like those now become meaningless, which then leads
(30:08):
to the question.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Of what are the conferences really matter?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
If that's the case, I think he said it super
clearly at the end of his statement, is that you
have to give the people that are within your within
your ecosystem hope. I think sometimes that kind of becomes
tainted by some of these how the success that some
(30:33):
of these schools have, and.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
It's just it's just, you know, it's a given. Like
if you're in.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
The SEC, if you're at the top of the SEC,
fans know that we're most likely going to make it
to the playoffs. At least we have a great chance
of making it to the playoffs. But then you go
into these you know, the ACC, that's not the reality.
You know, you you go into the lower parts or
(31:03):
the mid parts of the SEC and the Big Ten,
that's not the reality, let alone any other conference that's
out there. There's no real You gotta sell some type
of hope. If there's a college playoff and you go
into the season. Just imagine if you're one of these schools,
you go into the college season and it's like, ah,
(31:25):
you know, we have no shot at making this field none.
It just to me. I think that's what probably programs
are facing. This is what conferences are facing, is that
there is no real opportunity to win a national title.
(31:46):
If there's no real opportunity to win a national title.
And I'm this school, I'm chairing my team on, but
I'm just cheering them on from a casual standpoint, I'm
not really cheering them on. Maybe it's a conference title
an appearance. You're happy about that if you're if you
got a chance to go to your conference championship. But
if you're not going into the college football playoff, what
(32:08):
is the real investment going to be from your community?
If you can't sell that hope, at least in the
off season going into the regular season, how do you
sell tickets, How do you sell hope?
Speaker 6 (32:23):
How do you sell buy in.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And support financially and participation wise. I think it's a
very very real challenge that some of these schools and
some of these conferences are facing.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
So there is some thoughts on that as well too
as far as what how that's different from from other
years in the past and how it's always been. But
I know we're up against it here, so let's we'll
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about the conversation that is ongoing. It's continued more and
more the twenty four team playoff, The ACC, the Big
ten in favor of it. The SEC is talking about,
you know, a sixteen team playoff, but nonetheless it's going
to be expanding.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
And every Power conference as well as Notre Dame, is
in favor of the twenty four team expansion or playoff, with.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
The exception of the SEC. That's right, and so you
have to ask yourself, why is that? Why does the
SEC only want to.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Expand to sixteen teams as compared to every other power
conference is well as Notre Dame, And it's it's a
fairly simple response. ESPN, who holds all the cards to
the current playoff format, would have to open bid the
playoff if it goes to twenty four teams per the agreement.
(35:18):
If it stays at sixteen, ESPN still stays in control.
If it goes to twenty four, there's a lot more
games and access for networks to be a part of it.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
And so it's just.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Kind of funny that the sole network of the SEC
is behind all of this, in my opinion, pulling the
strings and saying, ah, we're not sure we like.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
This quite as much.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
So why would you.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
And that's one response to it, like, why would you
want them to expand it if they have all the
control of it right now? Now, some would say that's
not great for the sport of college football, But when
it comes down to it, the Big Ten of the
SEC are the only two conferences that really matter because
they have to come.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
To an agreement.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Once those two come to an agreement, that's what the
expanded playoff format will look like. So until the SEC
budgets as much as the Big Ten wants to go
to twenty four, as much as the Big Twelve and
the ACC and Notre.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Dame and you know everyone else, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
And look that might be you know, every coach we
heard heard about Mario Cristobal saying at twenty four be
too much. There's some coaches who feel that way, but
by and large, it's the majority of every conference or
the exception of the SEC feels that there should be
an expansion to twenty four. So take that for what
it's worth. But that's ultimately, you know, why we are
(36:45):
where we are at this juncture. It's still not going
to be good enough. That's the funny thing. Like they're
still going There are people that think they're going to
benefit from an expanded field, and they're going to get
shafted no differently than what they have the entire time,
and that's going to be a harsh reality. You can't
(37:05):
you cannot appease everyone, you can't win with everyone.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Somebody's going to be a loser in this. And that's
the bottom line. And twenty four you know what, You
know why the big conferences are okay with it because again,
it's giving more opportunities to get more teams in, which
makes your conference more prestigious.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
It actually could have.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
The transverse reaction on some of these schools that are
thinking that, oh, twenty four teams, that means we have
a chance, guys, No, you don't. That Just all it
means is that there's going to be more schools from
the Big ten and from the SEC that go into
the playoff. And now that conference becomes more attractive, and
(37:52):
the teams that aren't at the top become more attractive
because you got an opportunity to make it into the playoffs.
Clear recruiting opportunity and advantage. An asset that this could
turn into if that were to be what it turns into,
and you would have to assume that's what this will
turn into.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Anytime there's something that's voted on, you're going to have
somebody who feels like they got slided, like that's it
happens with college basketball. You know, I don't know about now,
they've got one hundred and five teams that are in
now or whatever it is. But with college football, there's
always a complaint. If it was you know, four teams
that got in the fifth and six teams felled screwed.
You know, if it's twelve, the thirteenth, and fourteen, that's
always going to be the case. I just look at
(38:34):
it and go, I don't know that it really changes
much because I think you're still going to have the
usual suspects at the end of the day that are
going to be the best teams in the sport. You'll
have some outliers occasionally, and you'll have a team like
Indiana who will pop up and you know, hit big
and they'll go on a run. But I still feel
(38:55):
like you're going to have the same teams that are
going to be near the top of college football's landscape.
Whether it's twelve, twenty four, I feel like there's a
pretty good idea of who's going to be there at
the end in mind.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Well, look, there's a reason why there's traditional blue bloods.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
But that's I mean, look at again, other programs that
haven't been a part of it, right, Like Indiana has
been a part of they won a national championship. You know,
we couldn't say that four years ago. Vanderbilt was knocking
on the door for it. So as much as we'd
like to say that, I don't know that that's necessarily true.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
I mean it seems like and granted I'm not necessarily.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
One that believes like we need to be inclusive for
the sake of being inclusive. In this case, I mean,
there's one hundred and thirty eight Division one men's football programs,
so having twenty four teams in is.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
What was that take?
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Seventeen percent something like that, So it's not like that's
a huge percentage. And I do think if you go
to twenty four it'll stabilize and stay there for a while,
because how long have we had sixty eight four? Did
we look that up? Like, wasn't that back during the
early two thousands or something? Yeah, we expanded for the
playing games and it'd been that way for twenty plus
(40:05):
years until we just added on an additional eight. So
I think if they go to twenty four, the expansion
of the playoffs stops there, and hopefully you find a
way of formatic that makes it work. I think the
toughest thing about the playoff is we went from four
to twelve, and each year we keep saying, oh, it's
not enough, it's not enough. Well, at this case, I
look at it and just saying twenty four be the
(40:26):
stopping point for me. You can't go any more than that,
just surely based on the calendar. But more so than that,
I don't know that you need to, like, do we
really need to argue for the twenty fifth, twenty sixth
best team in the country.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
And I also think that there's enough teams out there
that realize, you know what, we got no shot at
this whole thing. But let's go have fun Saturday. Why
not let's go drink Waste management baby,
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