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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
It's oh yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
You throw on when you're doing those super sets with shoulders.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
It was dirty yesterday, brah some.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Filth, filthy, dirty little dirty Delt day.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Hey man back back back in Delts.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Brady, it is it is two Pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Rady, you guys, you guys ever just lifting and just
scream and shake yourself when you're done with your set.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Like usually usually I'm so tired from the set, I
can't do that.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah, come lift with me, Okay, jack your ass right
on up.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah now I'm done.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Now I'm telling you I do three fifteen once a
month just to just to make sure I can still
do it.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I did three fifteen yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Yeah, scared me. My shoulder has been sore. But but
I did it. But I do set. I do reps
with two twenty five though, like like four reps of ten,
like let's put them like put them to bed, Yeah,
to bed. Now I'm done, Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, yeah. Man,
(02:15):
I'm like actually starting to look like something i'd be
looking in the mirror these days. I'm starting to like
feel like, you know, we got this whole thing called
no no no fat friends, like my peer group. That's
that's what we call it. No friends. Yeah oh yeah,
huh oh yeah, she needs to join our group.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
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that blockbuster trade in the NFL yesterday. Well, because I
mean there was a deadline, so you assumed there was
a trade Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Oh that's right, no deal done.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Jonathan Taylor is still an Indianapolis Colt, and furthermore, he
is going to start the season on the pup list,
which means he will miss at least the first four
games of the year. So the clown show that is
the Indianapolis Colts and the handling of the Jonathan Taylor
situation continues. Still a member of your Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
What up?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Birthday?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Good christ Man.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Well, okay, So there's a few ways of looking at this,
because maybe we don't know that his ankle is worse
off than you know, both Jonathan Taylor and his representation
and even the team knows. You know, that could be
an element to all this, because when you have an
injury and you're in a contract negotiation or you want
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an extension, it's always gonna sour whatever the deal's gonna be.
I think that's that's common common sense. What I don't know, though,
is if the Colts couldn't get the trade value that
they wanted for Jonathan Taylor, and so they essentially say,
let's just all, you know, offer him an olive branch
and they say, we're gonna put you on pup. We're
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gonna let this thing play out for another four weeks.
You don't have to play for us. You can get
healthy if he's not healthy. And if he is healthy
and it's you know, a quote unquote ankle injury that
he's holding in with, then it gives them four more
weeks to see if they can't trade him and get
a little better value of what they're looking for.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Maybe there's a team that has an injury.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Maybe there's a team that looks at the running back
situation after four games and goes, man, we need we
need a gally Jonathan Taylor in here if we want
to make a playoff run. And also what it does
is he still gets paid, you know, it would be
different if you on IR then there would be a
potential reduction in his salary because of the injury split.
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So in some cases you can get half of what
you're actually owed. He's owed four million this year, so
he will get that four million now over if he
comes back after week four and plays, he'll get over
thirteen games, not seventeen games, which if you really think
about a lot of running backs, their gripe ball oftentimes
is well, i'm getting you know, I'm not getting paid
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my fair market value. I want to be compensated to
be you know, compensate for me for what I'm worth.
And at least in this case, they're not subjecting him
too four more games if this is the agreement that
they came to.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
So I don't think this sag is over.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
You know, he's obviously a potential trade candidate until week eight,
but they've got that four week window now after you know,
week four, to see if they can't find a trade
partner for him, if in when he's quote unquote healthy,
or if you know, they find the right deal to
move on from him. But I have a hard time, guys,
in thinking that we got here. In my opinion, because
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jim Irsay, is that fair to say?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He shot his mouth off, he went public.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
They had to sit down him and him and Jonathan
Taylor reportedly sat in Ursay's trailer. Whatever the hell he's got,
like he's got like some banjo on wheels or something
like that, and they sat in there and talked for
an hour, and then Jonathan Taylor came out and said,
I want to be traded, and jim Irsay sat on
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the back of a golf cart and started talking about
death and Jonathan Taylor being out of the league and
nobody cares right, and that was a wrap. He literally
butchered the entire thing.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Well, you forgot that. The background singers and the band,
you know, they were next to trees, and the singers
were leaning on trees and they were singing the lyrics
with ersay about fair you know, life, life, Life continuing on,
I believe was the name of the song.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
I think what's interesting about what you're saying, Q, is.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
When you look at where this whole Jonathan Taylor situation is.
I just don't understand. And I said this yesterday. I
reiterate again right now, if you were going to get
a trade done, then it would have happened during that
open franchise tag time outside of there being a serious injury,
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like you said, of some sort that may have taken
place during training camp, and you're like, we really really
need to, you know, entertain this idea of bringing in
a guy like Jonathan Taylor, which still to me, I
think what the Colts were going to ask for or
are demanding with that trade is going to.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Be too steep.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
So unless Ursay had changed his mind in the decision
makers his brass changed their minds as to how much
it was going to cost to get it done, to
to actually let him go and move on from this,
which they very well could have done even if he
isn't in the best of health, then it you know,
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that's it's not going to happen. I mean, as good
as Jonathan Taylor is, I don't think they're giving up
the amount of draft stock that I think was being reported.
But what what was it again, Jonas you said something
a first round or the equivalent to a first rounds
or what.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Under the equivalent?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Yeah, that's too it's too rich of a it's too
rich of a deal to to make happen.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And if it hadn't happened.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
By now, it wasn't going to happen, So you were
going to have to show some type of incentive value
for another franchise to jump out there and want to
bring in Jonathan Taylor. So now putting him on the
pup list, now you've opened this whole thing up to speculation.
Is he hurt more? Is always going to be the
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question is it worse than what we thought?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
What is it? What is it that's worse than what
we thought? Is it? Is it the ankle, Is it
the back? Is it both? Is it something more? You know? So,
so now.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Now you're left to almost, in my estimation, doesn't Jonathan
Taylor have to play this year? Because if he doesn't
play this year, then you say, okay, well it was
serious enough where the guy actually sat out for the
entire season. I'm not looking at it like it's a
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money thing while he's sitting out. Now, I feel like
the way this has played out makes me feel as
though he needed this time to get healthy so that
he could hit the open market, or see if he
could get traded hit the open market.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Whatever it may be. However, that whole thing plays out.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
For the next upcoming season, not anything else other than
his health. So to me, if I'm Jonathan Taylor, you
gotta be sitting somewhere thinking I gotta play. I gotta
come back after four weeks. I gotta come off this
pup list. I gotta show the scouts out there and
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the franchises out there that I am healthy enough and
I can still play at a high level so that
I can try to raise my value back as much
as I possibly can in the event that I can
facilitate a trade or get the Colts to come to
their senses and pay me.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Yeah, I mean, the one thing I'd say is so
his contract would told if he sat out right he
weren't earned in a crude season, so he'd be right
back where he started, and he wouldn't get paid the
four million that he's owed under his rookie deal, so
he's not under the tag.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
He's under the rookie deal. They would still then.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Have the community to tag him after that, which it
depends on how you're looking at this like it like
to me, if he's not healthy and if it.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Is an ankle, if it's the back, or if it's both.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
As you as you touched on you're you're kind of
looking at it and saying, all right, like maybe he
he ends up not taking as much of a toll
or hit on his body. He's still really young, and
he might be in the next the same situation next year,
but he might be also be able to be a
traded to a team that's going to pay him more
than four million is gonna make, you know. The Le'Veon
Bell situation was so different because he had already been
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tagged once he played his rookie deal. He got tagged,
he played under that it was a second tag, and
he's like, come on now, like just just give me
that long term extension or give me at least more
than another, you know, fully guaranteed one year deal. And
that's where the thing kind of broke apart, as he
kind of probably felt like there wasn't a lot of
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loyalty or appreciation for what he'd done. And Nathan Taylor's case,
it's different because he can still structure a longer term
deal off of those.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Two franchise tags.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Like if he were to sit out and his contract
tolls right just the next.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Year, he's still getting paid four million bucks.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
He would then in that instance he would then still
be able to say, all right, let's take the first
two years or what the franchise tag would be, and
we could structure a three year deal whatever it is,
four year deal off of those next two years and
what I'm going to play for next year.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Like that framework is still there.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
It's just a matter of whether or not Jonathan Taylor
and his representation want to understand that that's the running
back market. Like that's also as much as you know,
I want to put it on Jim Rsay, because I
do believe if he didn't say what he said, we'll
probably not in this spot. But I also feel like
we don't know that Jonathan Taylor was asking for who
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knows if it was unreasonable or not.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
The report said fourteen.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And that they had multiple teams that were willing to
give him fourteen million.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Which which is odd because you know, obviously no one
was willing to give right see Barker that no one's
willing to give Josh Jacobs that nobody. Yeah, so I
tend to look at and say, like, all right, it
may have been a little more than that, but again,
that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Now. The running back market is what it is.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Keena's representation, you're going to have to come to grips
with like, that's what it is. And any general manager
will tell you the framework for an extension is going
to include what you're paid this year and then what
you're paid the next two years under the franchise tag,
and that's going to be as from a player's standpoint,
the baseline and from the team standpoint.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
They might say that might be our.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Best offer because we're taking away your year to year
guarantee where we take out that injury risk, and we're
giving you a signing bonus and money up front. So
if you want that, that's great, but here's how it's structured,
and it's not going to be anything more than that
because we don't.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Feel like the running back market's going up. We feel
like it's going down.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Do you guys think that Jonathan Taylor would be out
of line if he asked for a portion or maybe
all of that twenty million dollars was willing to fork
out for that whale that died.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Do you think that would be out of line at all?
I mean, I feel like.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
That's about humanity though, like, come on, Jonas, this is
not all about sports.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Not always about football.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's dead and guys, oh man, I mean that's a
new that's that that puts.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
A new means.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
You didn't say dead, yeah, man, okay, you.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Didn't say free Willie when Willie got free?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, but big.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Blackfish didn't he jump over that walls?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He did?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, it's a freedom. Do you think they get freedom?
You think they're capable of doing that? No, that was
a big That was a big leap. I guess jump.
That was a big job. Michael Jackson was saying it.
I guess Michael jack And is up there singing with
that whale right now.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Can we transition, by the way to this question?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
That's appropriate term to use.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
It's kind of I mean, well, I don't know how
to phrase this, LeVar, I need your help on this.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Okay, all right, So.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
This cop this this topic got brought up over in
Ireland and like we were talking about like having to.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Be with the comedians.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
We're talking about comedians and we're like, all right, like
I said, okay to like Bill Cosby, Like Bill Cosby
was funny back in the day, but with all the
stuff that comes out, it's like, uh yeah, like you
can't like admit that publicly and then like I was
thinking that the day, like back during COVID, we we were,
you know, giving out meals even all sorts of stuff
with the Orange Bowl Committee, and I remember like R.
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Kelly Stepped to the Name of Love came on somebody
like a speaker outside and everyone got up and started stepping,
you know, like everyone was like dancing to it. I
was like, ah, is that okay? Like are you are
you are? Are you kind of still allowed to to
it and like it all?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
The conventional answer should be yes, because the music should
that the art form should even with Bill Carr Cosby,
the art form should probably be separated from the character
of the person and that should just be looked at
that way. But I think that's impossible. I think it's impossible,
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and I have not to be honest, I have not
listened to or heard an R. Kelly song since since
finding out all of that stuff, because I feel.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Like not step though to Step to the Name of Love,
like it it's just like I can't do it.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
I would have to if I really really felt the
music the way that it hits you when stepping the name,
and like I feel like you have to do.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It on the inside, not on the outside. What does
that look like?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I mean, I had this turn when I was ball hitded.
I was like, sometimes you got to let your hair down. Well,
they were like, you don't have any hair. I was like, yeah,
you gotta let it down on the inside. So sometimes
you just got to keep things to yourself and step
into the name of love. Today you probably need to
step on the inside, not on the outside. So you
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could be in your head and be like, man, that's
a really good song, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Remember Ignition was like it was a beat too, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
But now because because see to me, now, when you
think of the lyrics and you think of the song
that you start.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Girl you want to come to my hotel, I was like,
now who's he talking to? Like, how old is that girl?
It's like twelve. I started dissecting it. I'm like, yeah,
this is messed up, man. That's that's the issue.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
That's that is the issue that I would run into
with a guy like r Kelly and his music is
I feel like I'm supporting him if I'm supportive of
the song that I'm hearing, So I can't do it.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
And I just can't do it.
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It's a Wednesday, so that means it's another edition of
the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Our midweek Awards
those will be yours coming up here from the tire
Raq dot com studios. So we've been talking a lot
about quarterbacks and a lot of decisions being made at
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quarterback around the NFL, and now it's time to turn
things over to college football because Week zero is in
the rearview mirror. College football kicks off. I mean, you
know what, can we just call it? Can we call
this week two? What do we got to call this
week one? It feels disrespectful to Week zero, but nonetheless
everything kicks off. It's the Labor Day College Football Extravaganza.
(20:07):
It's like a five day bonanza of nothing but college football.
It starts tomorrow night on a Thursday.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Borrow Baby and the Ohio helloware blue Hands taken Ontounding Brook?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Do youwar?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And the Ohio State Buckeyes have made a decision on
their starting quarterback. Oh yeah, yeah, Kyle McCord. He has
been named the starter after beating out Devin Brown. Ryan Day,
the head coach, did say that Brown that Brown will
have an opportunity to see the field as well.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
But you can we talk about that for a second.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Listen to me. It's a close race.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Well no, hold on, what did they play on the opener?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Oh god, hold on, let me tell you.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
No, No, it's it's Indiana. Okay, I think it's it's
it's in Bloomington.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Oh, they're starting in the ten and Ohio State's a
thirty point favorite.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
That's it. Now.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
If you're Tom Allen and you're the Hoosiers, aren't you
sitting there like it's a little disrespectful to think that
both quarterbacks are going to play, because it's essentially saying that,
Like if you're Ryan Day and you when you're started
to get ready for the season, right for the likes
of Notre Dame, for the likes of Penn State, Michigan.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
I mean, you've been having a quarterback competition.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
You want him to get as many reps as possible
out there with the guys he's going to be with
and he's basically saying we're gonna be beating HYU to
the point where Devin Brown is even going to get
to come in, or he may have named a starter
for the game, but the competition is still going on.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I mean, it's one of two things that he's saying
right now.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
It might be one of both of those things at
the same time, just singularly put out there and conveniently
fitting together. He's probably still looking to see who's going
to be his starting guy, and he's probably using this
as a game where he can see some impactful reps
in in game form to make that decision, and and
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it probably will pan out the way that the prognosticators
are putting it out there. It's probably going to be
a massacre of the Hoosiers. I mean, this ain't basketball,
So you know, at the end of the day, I
still think there are question marks surrounding this Ohio State team.
For them to be considered the favorite this year is
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you know, I think I think it's a great year
for other teams to have that type of bulletin board
material because this is one of those years which, by
the way, the last couple of years, the bully on
the block has gotten.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Punched in the mouth. I don't.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
I don't see that changing this year. In fact, he
might he might catch a little wreck from more than
than one cat in the school yard. It might be
a couple that that bring that that thump, that thump
mentality to the bully this year.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Wisconsin and Michigan or.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I'll tell you what, I'm pretty excited to see what
what develops.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I'm excited to see what develops in the ten this year.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And I'm just I'm looking around, looking around at the odds.
I see, you know, Illinois thirty to one.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Let's see, I wouldn't put my money on Illinois to
get it done. And I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it
this year. You know, Dana Howard and Sime and Rice
and then those guys they're not there, right, I.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Always the one.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I'm just looking around all the other Let's see what
we got there in Minnesota, Nebraska.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Hey man, Penn State's got the best value. Oh we are,
that's right. I would put my money on Penn State.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
One.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Are they six to one to five to one?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
I'm not telling you.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
I mean, by the way, o Higo State's the favorite there,
the one with the or at least depending on the book.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah right, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Which, by the ways, most books have Ohio State the favorite.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, there's only one I saw that has Michigan the favorite.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
And there's some that are there, they're close, but most
have Ohio State is the favorite.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Just you're gonna try to, i mean, go through well, I.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Mean, I'm just saying on drafts what you're just saying.
And listen, we love DraftKings here on this show. Michigan
is a plus one seventy five. Ohio State's a plus
one eighty.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
So that's actually the only book, by the way, that's
got it that way, the only one which I will
say this DraftKings is the only one that's respecting Michigan.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I mean, at least how the money's come in. That's
the team that I would say is going to win it.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
But I think that if there's a team that could
pop up and you'd be like, holy s these dudes
are actually really good, it could be in state college.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So the way, let me ask you a question on
how quarterback decisions are made in college football because Ryan Day,
well the article, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
No, what you know how they're made? I mean you
were a Bears fan, So it's nothing. It's very similar
to how love Smith did it. Johnas, do you want
to elaborate on.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
That, Well, I'm glad you brought that up, I mean
because this is one of your favorite stories as far
as deciding on a starting quarterback. Lovey Smith when he
had Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman and camp. You remember
that he was trying to decide as to who was
going to start certain games in the preseason. So he
flipped a coin. Now, I don't know if it was
a quarter, a silver dollar, a nickel, a dime, I
(25:31):
don't know, but what it could have been a euro.
It worked because Kyle Orton ended up winning the job and.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Didn they go to the super Bowl that year.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
No, that was not that year.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
That was the year after, because Rex Grossman was to
start in quarterback that guy.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, most Super Bowl teams don't flip a coin in
camp to decide their starting quarterback.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Are you sure about that? I mean, man, maybe that's
what they did in Ohio State. Maybe that's what they
did in New England. That's right, right, who's gonna stay well?
Heads are tails? Oh? It felt through a crack apparently, No.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
It's tak Yeah, you're all gone.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
But the way Ryan Day the way and the article
that I read was saying that Devin Brown came on
late in camp, but that you know, Kyle McCord was
able to hold him off basically is the way that
it was written up. Now, you why is it Are
these decisions already made and they're just not made public
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to the media, because it feels like in college football
they some of these teams wait until this week or
a few days ago to make an announcement on a
game that's going to be coming up in less than
a week.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Look, I don't know if LeVar will agree with this
or not, but there's a lot of things that go
into it outside just the performance. Okay, you know, for
a guy like Devin Brown, they might be saying, hey,
he's might have a higher ceiling than calvilcord, but he
might have a lower floor. And we've got a team
that's really talented. We don't need someone to come in
and make plays. We've got playmakers around the position. We
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just need him to distribute the football. And we feel
like our defense is good enough where our ground game,
our playmakers, our defense, they can win us a lot
of games. So we don't need a guy that can
go in there and throw three or four picks in
a game. We need a guy who can go in
there and kind of manage it, distribute the football and
put us in a position to let our other special
playmakers win. All right, that's like the football, if you
(27:21):
want me to be serious about this, But the behind
the scenes, it's also like where did the kid go
to school?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
You know where Marvin Harrison went to high school?
Speaker 6 (27:31):
Saint Joe's Prep school, same as cal McCord, and that
is a powerhouse of a school. If I'm not mistaken,
I believe that's where Matt Ryan as well. But there's
a number of situations where that stuff factors in. When
you've got a great relationship with the high school, with
the coach, and they're pumping out talent, they do not
(27:54):
want to bite the hand that feeds them. And I'm
not saying that's a huge I'm not saying that's a huge,
huge determining factor.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
But it doesn't hurt you know, if you.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Come from like a one off small school where you're
never going back there getting to talk to that the
high school coach, talk to that. Heck, yeah, you're talking
about impressiable kids in high school. High school coaches have
a huge impact on where kids decide to go. And
if you wrong one of their players, they feel like
you have they'll sour and you at a heartbeat and
don't try to push and and you know, get that
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kid to go somewhere else. Might might sound crazy to
some out there, but trust me, I've I've heard about it,
I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
That's that's how sometimes that stuff works. Yeah, man, yeah,
are you coach you?
Speaker 6 (28:42):
I mean, you tell me bruh if a college comes
in there rubs you the wrong way, or you're not
gonna be like, man, kid, don't worry.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
About these guys.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
I mean, I say, I've said that to my son
a few times, you know, and he's a for star
right now. I said it a few times. So I
don't worry about them, like the way they the way
they're handling it. Don't don't you know, don't get your
don't keep the main thing the main thing like and
that's kind of what it is like. So yeah, you're right.
(29:10):
I mean, it is all about how you you go
about handling things. You know, people want to have a
good experience and how they you know, how they're interacted with.
So but as a coach and and being in it
with someone outside of you know, someone you actually made,
(29:31):
you know, it's it's it's interesting when you you're going
through a recruiting process with a player, especially if that
player is playing a high profile position, because the quarterback's
position is it's just it's just treated differently at every level,
at every level, and and so if there's potential there,
(29:54):
there's there's going to be you know, the way it's handled.
I had the benefit of having Keilly Smith as as
my assistant head coach and offensive coordinator my last year
as a head coach, and because of that, I was
able to bring in a backup to Bryce Young. Imagine that,
like I had a starting quarterback that was the backup
(30:15):
to Bryce Young at modern day, and we ended up
having him his last year of of of high school,
so well, his his second last year. We actually lost
him the next year because I left, We all left
the school.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
But anyways, I digress.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
It was exciting and it was really cool to have
a kid of that caliber under my tutelage because you
get to experience things you would never experience unless you
have a quarterback of of of that type of caliber.
So yeah, it's pretty cool, man. It's it's it's one
(30:57):
of those things.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
You know.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
You you you see how these quarterbacks are treated and
how they're looked at and how they're viewed. And I'll
tell you what that value starts. I won't go as
far as to say youth league, but it definitely starts
pretty early these days, the value proposition of what quarterbacks
have to offer when they're pretty good.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Bro, you know when it starts.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
I remember when I was young, and obviously, like baseball,
I felt like you kind of start for most people,
like kids pitching all that as young, if not younger
than really like tackle football. In most places, we started
tackle football relatively young, but like I started off as
a pitcher. And so when I was nine years old,
I got picked up by a team went to Iowa
(31:41):
to go play a World Series and that was really
what sprung The following year and me playing quarterback because
all the dads were like, well, yeah, have him be it.
You know, he can pitch, he can throw a football,
and that was what started it. Like I grew up
loving Jerry Rice. That was my favorite football player, and
so I was receiver. I was just wanting to have
great hands and brung your routes and make the you know,
(32:03):
big time clutch catch. And so it literally started at
that point. But and just then when I when like
our travel team for baseball would go to a different
like world Series, you started realizing you were getting like attention,
like at that young of an age, and like if
your team wasn't making other teams were friendly with you
because they were trying to pick you up to go
take you to it like a college World Series or
(32:25):
a little base little.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
League World Series.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
And so it starts young for a lot of these
guys because they they're playing multiple sports and a lot
of times, like before they've demonstrated themselves on a football field,
they've probably done it in basketball where it starts with
aau or they've done it in baseball sometimes and then
it leads to like, dude, this guy and he needs to
play quarterback, like he's a good athlete, Like you went
(32:47):
the ball in his hands or he could throw he
could throw, well, like that's where to me. Like, especially
like a lot of these younger cats, like you'll see
it as.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
They as they get older. They're multiple sports.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
The guys who can kind of throw and sling whatever
they want, but they get that special treatment you're talking about.
And then when they get to a special school. I
mean you're talking about Saint Joe's Prep powerhouse, man, I
mean that's one, Like you got Marvin Harrison Junior from there,
like arguably could be the best. You know that that
a very you know, vaunted historic program in a highay
(33:20):
state has had through the years, guys like c C
Chris Carter, you know, you go on down the list.
But that's what's crazy is like that stuff does matter,
like whether people at home want to buy into it, it.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Plays a bit of a factor.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Like I would tell a young kid in high school,
like you can go to a top you know, top
school like you go to like modern Days. If you're
in southern California, right Saint Thomas Aquanas, you're in South Florida,
Cardinal Gibbons, something's like bigger powerhouses South you go because
the exposure and the way you treat it all that
so different.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Even the coaching to a degree.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I'll tell you what the way your pants fit pays
play plays a part two like hell big time part
they fit. Man, She's them pants fit right, you're going
to get the attention.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Yeah.
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Speaker 6 (34:20):
Which, by the way, again a round of applause for
DraftKings being the only sports book to get how the
Big ten should be should be ordered. Michins wonted the
last two years, and and they we've got to whar
Ohio State in some books of the fame, like at
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Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, And if I'm not mistaken, Michigan, Michigan's favored in
the game against Ohio State and early look ahead, but
in some places they're not favored to win the conference.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
What's what's crazy about is Michigan's got a much easier schedule.
Their hardest games at Penn State like oh I mean,
granted it's not a conference game for Ohio State, but
like playing playing in a on conference game where if
you lose, like if Ohio State loses to Notre Dame.
You can sit there and say, we Yeah, doesn't affect
(35:07):
their conference, but it affects the team you drop a
big game like that. Yeah, especially in today's college football playoff,
you don't know that you can get a shot to
go to the playoff. And so it's almost like for
some guy, especially guys who are thinking about that next level,
some guys, those guys start to pack it in a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
I'll just be real with you.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Well, listen, we're not going to pack it in because
we've got some midweek awards coming up here shortly.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
He do.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Oh you get you got a glimpse. It's looking all right.
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Speaker 2 (37:33):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and ugly.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
All right, So lead the lapse.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Not here again camping, probably sitting by a fire right now, drinking, vomiting.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Who knows what's going on with Lead to lap is
he can use.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
I mean, the guy drinks enough where he's not gonna
vomit every time you find this.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
He does have this thing to where if he eats,
he wakes up in the middle of the night, and
if it just doesn't feel right, he'll just let him fly.
He just he's got no shame in his game. He
could explain all this tomorrow. But in his place we
have Brandon Truffe, who's been doing a bang up job
here the past couple of days.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
So Brandon. Who's got what this week? For the good,
the bad, the ugly? All right, so we have Britty
Quinn with the good. All right, well we'll do we'll
do one, we'll do one at a time.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Well, yeah, but we Jonas, did you know what you
were doing before we did the segment?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
No? No, Yeah, it's gonna.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Be a good. Yeah, I'll take the good if you want.
You got the good, I'll take I got something really
good to take the good. None, I'm gonna take the good.
You know what the good is for me? This week?
Speaker 5 (38:45):
Yesterday evening, I was at Ontario Christian watching my daughter
play a match in volleyball.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Christian.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Yeah, and I'm watching the game and then this, that
and the other, and I you know, Courtney Brown was
in town to is it a family member and was like,
you know, if he could get some time, we would
meet up. That didn't seem like we were going to.
I'm sitting in the game. I look at the door.
My wife comes walking in the door and I see
a dude that made her look you know, like I do,
(39:15):
maybe even smaller. And it was Courtney six came into
the game and surprised me. At the game last night,
you know, there's only a few things that get me
emotionally charged up, like where I could possibly cry, and
you know, have to like hide my emotions and my
feelings when I see one of my comrades, one of
my bros, somebody that I went.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
To blows with, bled with, sweat with, worked.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
With, you know, cried with, left with, and I see
them unexpectedly super super good. So it was really cool
catching up with Courtney Brown yesterday.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Man, there you go. Yeah, so there's there's a good
work for Yeah. I mean my good was gonna be
a little different, Okay.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
I was gonna say, hey, look, we are on the
cusp of Week one college A ball.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
I'm not discounting Week zero, clearly I was. I was there.
I was present for it.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
I'm just saying, now we get the rest of the
crew involved, you know, we get all the Power five
group of five.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
We had everyone involved.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
So I cannot wait for the start of college football.
I cannot wait for the start of the NFL season.
Football is here, folks, it is here. We can go
every single weekend now knowing we got some football to watch.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I like, nice, all right, I'll take the bad. I
know I had the badge. So I'm gonna take I'll
take the bad damn. Here you go, but we can
double love. Let's double listen.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
I was getting my my mocha coffee yesterday at at
the the you know, at the studio. I thought I
was laying a landmine and a trap lead to walk into.
In the break area, I let one of the worst
most vile files, smelling sting bombs go, and it was
(41:02):
had the nerve to be loud, and Eddie heard it,
and Eddie came walking in.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
And I did not want Eddie to walk anywhere near.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Me because of the situation and the circumstances that we're
surrounding what had been taking place. And and yet he
did come through. And I'm I'm sorry, Eddie. I'm still apologetic.
I'm very sorry Eddie.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
LeVar. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Yeah, but I don't know if that stronger. You're still here, man,
don't know what the long term effects of that was.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Still, verdict is still out, But little.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Visions I will say that, oh man, that is yeah,
Lee not being here and Eddie walks right into Levar's remnants.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Yeah, it was. It was bad.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
It's like my best I guess I'll take the ugly,
all right. So, I mean, which I'm not a big
fan of. I don't like to be negative, but you know,
somebody's got to do it, so I'll take the ugly.
I mean, we're led to believe that this Top twenty
five that college football rolls out every year is what
we should be focusing on when we're trying to preview
(42:11):
games and all that. Well, if that's the case, what
do we got one top twenty five matchup this entire weekend?
It's the Labor Day Extravaganza, and we got to wait
until Sunday night to get a five verse an eight.
We couldn't do a little bit better. You couldn't groove
the top twenty five to at least make some of
these things a little more appealing. Now, make no mistake,
we'll be watching, obviously the big noon boys who are
(42:34):
going to be covering the TCU Colorado game. We're going
to be watching that. In Prime's debut, LaVar Arrington's going
to be doing work for the Penn State West Virginia game.
You got the Battle of the Carolinas. There's some fun
stuff there, but I think it's a little ridiculous and
borderline ugly that college football presents this Top twenty five
and they don't really give us a whole lot to
(42:55):
go on. When it comes to Top twenty five matchups.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
You realize the scheduling happens sometimes like eight years in.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Advance, make adjustments.
Speaker 6 (43:02):
Well, I don't think the Top twenty five is just
gonna rank teams because they're.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Playing figure it out. You got enough money now, ess,
Damn that ugly
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
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BQ News, and the old p Petros Papadaka is going
to stop by. Plus we're going to talk about the
Jonathan Taylor situation in Indianapolis. The Clown Show continues. We've
(00:21):
got quarterback discussions, not only in the NFL but in
college football, and some of the great drops courtesy of
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
It's oh yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
You throw on when you're doing those super sets with shoulders.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
It was dirty yesterday, brah some.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Filth, filthy, dirty little dirty Delt day.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Hey man back back back in Delts.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Brady, it is it is two Pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Rady, you guys, you guys ever just lifting and just
scream and shake yourself when you're done with your set.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Like usually usually I'm so tired from the set, I
can't do that.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah, come lift with me, Okay, jack your ass right
on up.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah now I'm done.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Now I'm telling you I do three fifteen once a
month just to just to make sure I can still
do it.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I did three fifteen yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Yeah, scared me. My shoulder has been sore. But but
I did it. But I do set. I do reps
with two twenty five though, like like four reps of ten,
like let's put them like put them to bed, Yeah,
to bed. Now I'm done, Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, yeah. Man,
(02:15):
I'm like actually starting to look like something i'd be
looking in the mirror these days. I'm starting to like
feel like, you know, we got this whole thing called
no no no fat friends, like my peer group. That's
that's what we call it. No friends. Yeah oh yeah,
huh oh yeah, she needs to join our group.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I'll tell you that. You can't talk it it, don't
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that blockbuster trade in the NFL yesterday. Well, because I
mean there was a deadline, so you assumed there was
a trade Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Oh that's right, no deal done.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Jonathan Taylor is still an Indianapolis Colt, and furthermore, he
is going to start the season on the pup list,
which means he will miss at least the first four
games of the year. So the clown show that is
the Indianapolis Colts and the handling of the Jonathan Taylor
situation continues. Still a member of your Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
What up?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Birthday?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Good christ Man.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Well, okay, So there's a few ways of looking at this,
because maybe we don't know that his ankle is worse
off than you know, both Jonathan Taylor and his representation
and even the team knows. You know, that could be
an element to all this, because when you have an
injury and you're in a contract negotiation or you want
(04:04):
an extension, it's always gonna sour whatever the deal's gonna be.
I think that's that's common common sense. What I don't know, though,
is if the Colts couldn't get the trade value that
they wanted for Jonathan Taylor, and so they essentially say,
let's just all, you know, offer him an olive branch
and they say, we're gonna put you on pup. We're
(04:26):
gonna let this thing play out for another four weeks.
You don't have to play for us. You can get
healthy if he's not healthy. And if he is healthy
and it's you know, a quote unquote ankle injury that
he's holding in with, then it gives them four more
weeks to see if they can't trade him and get
a little better value of what they're looking for.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Maybe there's a team that has an injury.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Maybe there's a team that looks at the running back
situation after four games and goes, man, we need we
need a gally Jonathan Taylor in here if we want
to make a playoff run. And also what it does
is he still gets paid, you know, it would be
different if you on IR then there would be a
potential reduction in his salary because of the injury split.
(05:08):
So in some cases you can get half of what
you're actually owed. He's owed four million this year, so
he will get that four million now over if he
comes back after week four and plays, he'll get over
thirteen games, not seventeen games, which if you really think
about a lot of running backs, their gripe ball oftentimes
is well, i'm getting you know, I'm not getting paid
(05:29):
my fair market value. I want to be compensated to
be you know, compensate for me for what I'm worth.
And at least in this case, they're not subjecting him
too four more games if this is the agreement that
they came to.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
So I don't think this sag is over.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
You know, he's obviously a potential trade candidate until week eight,
but they've got that four week window now after you know,
week four, to see if they can't find a trade
partner for him, if in when he's quote unquote healthy,
or if you know, they find the right deal to
move on from him. But I have a hard time, guys,
in thinking that we got here. In my opinion, because
(06:08):
jim Irsay, is that fair to say?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He shot his mouth off, he went public.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
They had to sit down him and him and Jonathan
Taylor reportedly sat in Ursay's trailer. Whatever the hell he's got,
like he's got like some banjo on wheels or something
like that, and they sat in there and talked for
an hour, and then Jonathan Taylor came out and said,
I want to be traded, and jim Irsay sat on
(06:34):
the back of a golf cart and started talking about
death and Jonathan Taylor being out of the league and
nobody cares right, and that was a wrap. He literally
butchered the entire thing.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Well, you forgot that. The background singers and the band,
you know, they were next to trees, and the singers
were leaning on trees and they were singing the lyrics
with ersay about fair you know, life, life, Life continuing on,
I believe was the name of the song.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
I think what's interesting about what you're saying, Q, is.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
When you look at where this whole Jonathan Taylor situation is.
I just don't understand. And I said this yesterday. I
reiterate again right now, if you were going to get
a trade done, then it would have happened during that
open franchise tag time outside of there being a serious injury,
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like you said, of some sort that may have taken
place during training camp, and you're like, we really really
need to, you know, entertain this idea of bringing in
a guy like Jonathan Taylor, which still to me, I
think what the Colts were going to ask for or
are demanding with that trade is going to.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Be too steep.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
So unless Ursay had changed his mind in the decision
makers his brass changed their minds as to how much
it was going to cost to get it done, to
to actually let him go and move on from this,
which they very well could have done even if he
isn't in the best of health, then it you know,
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that's it's not going to happen. I mean, as good
as Jonathan Taylor is, I don't think they're giving up
the amount of draft stock that I think was being reported.
But what what was it again, Jonas you said something
a first round or the equivalent to a first rounds
or what.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Under the equivalent?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Yeah, that's too it's too rich of a it's too
rich of a deal to to make happen.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And if it hadn't happened.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
By now, it wasn't going to happen, So you were
going to have to show some type of incentive value
for another franchise to jump out there and want to
bring in Jonathan Taylor. So now putting him on the
pup list, now you've opened this whole thing up to speculation.
Is he hurt more? Is always going to be the
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question is it worse than what we thought?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
What is it? What is it that's worse than what
we thought? Is it? Is it the ankle, Is it
the back? Is it both? Is it something more? You know? So,
so now.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Now you're left to almost, in my estimation, doesn't Jonathan
Taylor have to play this year? Because if he doesn't
play this year, then you say, okay, well it was
serious enough where the guy actually sat out for the
entire season. I'm not looking at it like it's a
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money thing while he's sitting out. Now, I feel like
the way this has played out makes me feel as
though he needed this time to get healthy so that
he could hit the open market, or see if he
could get traded hit the open market.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Whatever it may be. However, that whole thing plays out.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
For the next upcoming season, not anything else other than
his health. So to me, if I'm Jonathan Taylor, you
gotta be sitting somewhere thinking I gotta play. I gotta
come back after four weeks. I gotta come off this
pup list. I gotta show the scouts out there and
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the franchises out there that I am healthy enough and
I can still play at a high level so that
I can try to raise my value back as much
as I possibly can in the event that I can
facilitate a trade or get the Colts to come to
their senses and pay me.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Yeah, I mean, the one thing I'd say is so
his contract would told if he sat out right he
weren't earned in a crude season, so he'd be right
back where he started, and he wouldn't get paid the
four million that he's owed under his rookie deal, so
he's not under the tag.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
He's under the rookie deal. They would still then.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Have the community to tag him after that, which it
depends on how you're looking at this like it like
to me, if he's not healthy and if it.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Is an ankle, if it's the back, or if it's both.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
As you as you touched on you're you're kind of
looking at it and saying, all right, like maybe he
he ends up not taking as much of a toll
or hit on his body. He's still really young, and
he might be in the next the same situation next year,
but he might be also be able to be a
traded to a team that's going to pay him more
than four million is gonna make, you know. The Le'Veon
Bell situation was so different because he had already been
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tagged once he played his rookie deal. He got tagged,
he played under that it was a second tag, and
he's like, come on now, like just just give me
that long term extension or give me at least more
than another, you know, fully guaranteed one year deal. And
that's where the thing kind of broke apart, as he
kind of probably felt like there wasn't a lot of
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loyalty or appreciation for what he'd done. And Nathan Taylor's case,
it's different because he can still structure a longer term
deal off of those.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Two franchise tags.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Like if he were to sit out and his contract
tolls right just the next.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Year, he's still getting paid four million bucks.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
He would then in that instance he would then still
be able to say, all right, let's take the first
two years or what the franchise tag would be, and
we could structure a three year deal whatever it is,
four year deal off of those next two years and
what I'm going to play for next year.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Like that framework is still there.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
It's just a matter of whether or not Jonathan Taylor
and his representation want to understand that that's the running
back market. Like that's also as much as you know,
I want to put it on Jim Rsay, because I
do believe if he didn't say what he said, we'll
probably not in this spot. But I also feel like
we don't know that Jonathan Taylor was asking for who
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knows if it was unreasonable or not.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
The report said fourteen.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And that they had multiple teams that were willing to
give him fourteen million.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Which which is odd because you know, obviously no one
was willing to give right see Barker that no one's
willing to give Josh Jacobs that nobody. Yeah, so I
tend to look at and say, like, all right, it
may have been a little more than that, but again,
that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Now. The running back market is what it is.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Keena's representation, you're going to have to come to grips
with like, that's what it is. And any general manager
will tell you the framework for an extension is going
to include what you're paid this year and then what
you're paid the next two years under the franchise tag,
and that's going to be as from a player's standpoint,
the baseline and from the team standpoint.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
They might say that might be our.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Best offer because we're taking away your year to year
guarantee where we take out that injury risk, and we're
giving you a signing bonus and money up front. So
if you want that, that's great, but here's how it's structured,
and it's not going to be anything more than that
because we don't.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Feel like the running back market's going up. We feel
like it's going down.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Do you guys think that Jonathan Taylor would be out
of line if he asked for a portion or maybe
all of that twenty million dollars was willing to fork
out for that whale that died.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Do you think that would be out of line at all?
I mean, I feel like.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
That's about humanity though, like, come on, Jonas, this is
not all about sports.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Not always about football.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's dead and guys, oh man, I mean that's a
new that's that that puts.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
A new means.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
You didn't say dead, yeah, man, okay, you.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Didn't say free Willie when Willie got free?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, but big.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Blackfish didn't he jump over that walls?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He did?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, it's a freedom. Do you think they get freedom?
You think they're capable of doing that? No, that was
a big That was a big leap. I guess jump.
That was a big job. Michael Jackson was saying it.
I guess Michael jack And is up there singing with
that whale right now.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Can we transition, by the way to this question?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
That's appropriate term to use.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
It's kind of I mean, well, I don't know how
to phrase this, LeVar, I need your help on this.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Okay, all right, So.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
This cop this this topic got brought up over in
Ireland and like we were talking about like having to.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Be with the comedians.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
We're talking about comedians and we're like, all right, like
I said, okay to like Bill Cosby, Like Bill Cosby
was funny back in the day, but with all the
stuff that comes out, it's like, uh yeah, like you
can't like admit that publicly and then like I was
thinking that the day, like back during COVID, we we were,
you know, giving out meals even all sorts of stuff
with the Orange Bowl Committee, and I remember like R.
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Kelly Stepped to the Name of Love came on somebody
like a speaker outside and everyone got up and started stepping,
you know, like everyone was like dancing to it. I
was like, ah, is that okay? Like are you are
you are? Are you kind of still allowed to to
it and like it all?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
The conventional answer should be yes, because the music should
that the art form should even with Bill Carr Cosby,
the art form should probably be separated from the character
of the person and that should just be looked at
that way. But I think that's impossible. I think it's impossible,
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and I have not to be honest, I have not
listened to or heard an R. Kelly song since since
finding out all of that stuff, because I feel.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Like not step though to Step to the Name of Love,
like it it's just like I can't do it.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
I would have to if I really really felt the
music the way that it hits you when stepping the name,
and like I feel like you have to do.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It on the inside, not on the outside. What does
that look like?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I mean, I had this turn when I was ball hitded.
I was like, sometimes you got to let your hair down. Well,
they were like, you don't have any hair. I was like, yeah,
you gotta let it down on the inside. So sometimes
you just got to keep things to yourself and step
into the name of love. Today you probably need to
step on the inside, not on the outside. So you
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could be in your head and be like, man, that's
a really good song, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Remember Ignition was like it was a beat too, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
But now because because see to me, now, when you
think of the lyrics and you think of the song
that you start.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Girl you want to come to my hotel, I was like,
now who's he talking to? Like, how old is that girl?
It's like twelve. I started dissecting it. I'm like, yeah,
this is messed up, man. That's that's the issue.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
That's that is the issue that I would run into
with a guy like r Kelly and his music is
I feel like I'm supporting him if I'm supportive of
the song that I'm hearing, So I can't do it.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
And I just can't do it.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
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about quarterbacks and a lot of decisions being made at
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quarterback around the NFL, and now it's time to turn
things over to college football because Week zero is in
the rearview mirror. College football kicks off. I mean, you
know what, can we just call it? Can we call
this week two? What do we got to call this
week one? It feels disrespectful to Week zero, but nonetheless
everything kicks off. It's the Labor Day College Football Extravaganza.
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It's like a five day bonanza of nothing but college football.
It starts tomorrow night on a Thursday.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Borrow Baby and the Ohio helloware blue Hands taken Ontounding Brook?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Do youwar?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And the Ohio State Buckeyes have made a decision on
their starting quarterback. Oh yeah, yeah, Kyle McCord. He has
been named the starter after beating out Devin Brown. Ryan Day,
the head coach, did say that Brown that Brown will
have an opportunity to see the field as well.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
But you can we talk about that for a second.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Listen to me. It's a close race.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Well no, hold on, what did they play on the opener?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Oh god, hold on, let me tell you.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
No, No, it's it's Indiana. Okay, I think it's it's
it's in Bloomington.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Oh, they're starting in the ten and Ohio State's a
thirty point favorite.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
That's it. Now.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
If you're Tom Allen and you're the Hoosiers, aren't you
sitting there like it's a little disrespectful to think that
both quarterbacks are going to play, because it's essentially saying that,
Like if you're Ryan Day and you when you're started
to get ready for the season, right for the likes
of Notre Dame, for the likes of Penn State, Michigan.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
I mean, you've been having a quarterback competition.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
You want him to get as many reps as possible
out there with the guys he's going to be with
and he's basically saying we're gonna be beating HYU to
the point where Devin Brown is even going to get
to come in, or he may have named a starter
for the game, but the competition is still going on.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I mean, it's one of two things that he's saying
right now.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
It might be one of both of those things at
the same time, just singularly put out there and conveniently
fitting together. He's probably still looking to see who's going
to be his starting guy, and he's probably using this
as a game where he can see some impactful reps
in in game form to make that decision, and and
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it probably will pan out the way that the prognosticators
are putting it out there. It's probably going to be
a massacre of the Hoosiers. I mean, this ain't basketball,
So you know, at the end of the day, I
still think there are question marks surrounding this Ohio State team.
For them to be considered the favorite this year is
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you know, I think I think it's a great year
for other teams to have that type of bulletin board
material because this is one of those years which, by
the way, the last couple of years, the bully on
the block has gotten.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Punched in the mouth. I don't.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
I don't see that changing this year. In fact, he
might he might catch a little wreck from more than
than one cat in the school yard. It might be
a couple that that bring that that thump, that thump
mentality to the bully this year.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Wisconsin and Michigan or.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
I'll tell you what, I'm pretty excited to see what
what develops.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I'm excited to see what develops in the ten this year.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And I'm just I'm looking around, looking around at the odds.
I see, you know, Illinois thirty to one.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Let's see, I wouldn't put my money on Illinois to
get it done. And I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it
this year. You know, Dana Howard and Sime and Rice
and then those guys they're not there, right, I.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Always the one.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I'm just looking around all the other Let's see what
we got there in Minnesota, Nebraska.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Hey man, Penn State's got the best value. Oh we are,
that's right. I would put my money on Penn State.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
One.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Are they six to one to five to one?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
I'm not telling you.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
I mean, by the way, o Higo State's the favorite there,
the one with the or at least depending on the book.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah right, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Which, by the ways, most books have Ohio State the favorite.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, there's only one I saw that has Michigan the favorite.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
And there's some that are there, they're close, but most
have Ohio State is the favorite.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Just you're gonna try to, i mean, go through well, I.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Mean, I'm just saying on drafts what you're just saying.
And listen, we love DraftKings here on this show. Michigan
is a plus one seventy five. Ohio State's a plus
one eighty.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
So that's actually the only book, by the way, that's
got it that way, the only one which I will
say this DraftKings is the only one that's respecting Michigan.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I mean, at least how the money's come in. That's
the team that I would say is going to win it.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
But I think that if there's a team that could
pop up and you'd be like, holy s these dudes
are actually really good, it could be in state college.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So the way, let me ask you a question on
how quarterback decisions are made in college football because Ryan Day,
well the article, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
No, what you know how they're made? I mean you
were a Bears fan, So it's nothing. It's very similar
to how love Smith did it. Johnas, do you want
to elaborate on.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
That, Well, I'm glad you brought that up, I mean
because this is one of your favorite stories as far
as deciding on a starting quarterback. Lovey Smith when he
had Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman and camp. You remember
that he was trying to decide as to who was
going to start certain games in the preseason. So he
flipped a coin. Now, I don't know if it was
a quarter, a silver dollar, a nickel, a dime, I
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don't know, but what it could have been a euro.
It worked because Kyle Orton ended up winning the job and.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Didn they go to the super Bowl that year.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
No, that was not that year.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
That was the year after, because Rex Grossman was to
start in quarterback that guy.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, most Super Bowl teams don't flip a coin in
camp to decide their starting quarterback.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Are you sure about that? I mean, man, maybe that's
what they did in Ohio State. Maybe that's what they
did in New England. That's right, right, who's gonna stay well?
Heads are tails? Oh? It felt through a crack apparently, No.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
It's tak Yeah, you're all gone.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
But the way Ryan Day the way and the article
that I read was saying that Devin Brown came on
late in camp, but that you know, Kyle McCord was
able to hold him off basically is the way that
it was written up. Now, you why is it Are
these decisions already made and they're just not made public
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to the media, because it feels like in college football
they some of these teams wait until this week or
a few days ago to make an announcement on a
game that's going to be coming up in less than
a week.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Look, I don't know if LeVar will agree with this
or not, but there's a lot of things that go
into it outside just the performance. Okay, you know, for
a guy like Devin Brown, they might be saying, hey,
he's might have a higher ceiling than calvilcord, but he
might have a lower floor. And we've got a team
that's really talented. We don't need someone to come in
and make plays. We've got playmakers around the position. We
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just need him to distribute the football. And we feel
like our defense is good enough where our ground game,
our playmakers, our defense, they can win us a lot
of games. So we don't need a guy that can
go in there and throw three or four picks in
a game. We need a guy who can go in
there and kind of manage it, distribute the football and
put us in a position to let our other special
playmakers win. All right, that's like the football, if you
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want me to be serious about this, But the behind
the scenes, it's also like where did the kid go
to school?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
You know where Marvin Harrison went to high school?
Speaker 6 (27:31):
Saint Joe's Prep school, same as cal McCord, and that
is a powerhouse of a school. If I'm not mistaken,
I believe that's where Matt Ryan as well. But there's
a number of situations where that stuff factors in. When
you've got a great relationship with the high school, with
the coach, and they're pumping out talent, they do not
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want to bite the hand that feeds them. And I'm
not saying that's a huge I'm not saying that's a huge,
huge determining factor.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
But it doesn't hurt you know, if you.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Come from like a one off small school where you're
never going back there getting to talk to that the
high school coach, talk to that. Heck, yeah, you're talking
about impressiable kids in high school. High school coaches have
a huge impact on where kids decide to go. And
if you wrong one of their players, they feel like
you have they'll sour and you at a heartbeat and
don't try to push and and you know, get that
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kid to go somewhere else. Might might sound crazy to
some out there, but trust me, I've I've heard about it,
I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
That's that's how sometimes that stuff works. Yeah, man, yeah,
are you coach you?
Speaker 6 (28:42):
I mean, you tell me bruh if a college comes
in there rubs you the wrong way, or you're not
gonna be like, man, kid, don't worry.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
About these guys.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
I mean, I say, I've said that to my son
a few times, you know, and he's a for star
right now. I said it a few times. So I
don't worry about them, like the way they the way
they're handling it. Don't don't you know, don't get your
don't keep the main thing the main thing like and
that's kind of what it is like. So yeah, you're right.
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I mean, it is all about how you you go
about handling things. You know, people want to have a
good experience and how they you know, how they're interacted with.
So but as a coach and and being in it
with someone outside of you know, someone you actually made,
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you know, it's it's it's interesting when you you're going
through a recruiting process with a player, especially if that
player is playing a high profile position, because the quarterback's
position is it's just it's just treated differently at every level,
at every level, and and so if there's potential there,
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there's there's going to be you know, the way it's handled.
I had the benefit of having Keilly Smith as as
my assistant head coach and offensive coordinator my last year
as a head coach, and because of that, I was
able to bring in a backup to Bryce Young. Imagine that,
like I had a starting quarterback that was the backup
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to Bryce Young at modern day, and we ended up
having him his last year of of of high school,
so well, his his second last year. We actually lost
him the next year because I left, We all left
the school.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
But anyways, I digress.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
It was exciting and it was really cool to have
a kid of that caliber under my tutelage because you
get to experience things you would never experience unless you
have a quarterback of of of that type of caliber.
So yeah, it's pretty cool, man. It's it's it's one
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of those things.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
You know.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
You you you see how these quarterbacks are treated and
how they're looked at and how they're viewed. And I'll
tell you what that value starts. I won't go as
far as to say youth league, but it definitely starts
pretty early these days, the value proposition of what quarterbacks
have to offer when they're pretty good.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Bro, you know when it starts.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
I remember when I was young, and obviously, like baseball,
I felt like you kind of start for most people,
like kids pitching all that as young, if not younger
than really like tackle football. In most places, we started
tackle football relatively young, but like I started off as
a pitcher. And so when I was nine years old,
I got picked up by a team went to Iowa
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to go play a World Series and that was really
what sprung The following year and me playing quarterback because
all the dads were like, well, yeah, have him be it.
You know, he can pitch, he can throw a football,
and that was what started it. Like I grew up
loving Jerry Rice. That was my favorite football player, and
so I was receiver. I was just wanting to have
great hands and brung your routes and make the you know,
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big time clutch catch. And so it literally started at
that point. But and just then when I when like
our travel team for baseball would go to a different
like world Series, you started realizing you were getting like attention,
like at that young of an age, and like if
your team wasn't making other teams were friendly with you
because they were trying to pick you up to go
take you to it like a college World Series or
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a little base little.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
League World Series.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
And so it starts young for a lot of these
guys because they they're playing multiple sports and a lot
of times, like before they've demonstrated themselves on a football field,
they've probably done it in basketball where it starts with
aau or they've done it in baseball sometimes and then
it leads to like, dude, this guy and he needs to
play quarterback, like he's a good athlete, Like you went
(32:47):
the ball in his hands or he could throw he
could throw, well, like that's where to me. Like, especially
like a lot of these younger cats, like you'll see
it as.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
They as they get older. They're multiple sports.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
The guys who can kind of throw and sling whatever
they want, but they get that special treatment you're talking about.
And then when they get to a special school. I
mean you're talking about Saint Joe's Prep powerhouse, man, I
mean that's one, Like you got Marvin Harrison Junior from there,
like arguably could be the best. You know that that
a very you know, vaunted historic program in a highay
(33:20):
state has had through the years, guys like c C
Chris Carter, you know, you go on down the list.
But that's what's crazy is like that stuff does matter,
like whether people at home want to buy into it, it.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Plays a bit of a factor.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Like I would tell a young kid in high school,
like you can go to a top you know, top
school like you go to like modern Days. If you're
in southern California, right Saint Thomas Aquanas, you're in South Florida,
Cardinal Gibbons, something's like bigger powerhouses South you go because
the exposure and the way you treat it all that
so different.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Even the coaching to a degree.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I'll tell you what the way your pants fit pays
play plays a part two like hell big time part
they fit. Man, She's them pants fit right, you're going
to get the attention.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
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Speaker 6 (34:20):
Which, by the way, again a round of applause for
DraftKings being the only sports book to get how the
Big ten should be should be ordered. Michins wonted the
last two years, and and they we've got to whar
Ohio State in some books of the fame, like at
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Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, And if I'm not mistaken, Michigan, Michigan's favored in
the game against Ohio State and early look ahead, but
in some places they're not favored to win the conference.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
What's what's crazy about is Michigan's got a much easier schedule.
Their hardest games at Penn State like oh I mean,
granted it's not a conference game for Ohio State, but
like playing playing in a on conference game where if
you lose, like if Ohio State loses to Notre Dame.
You can sit there and say, we Yeah, doesn't affect
(35:07):
their conference, but it affects the team you drop a
big game like that. Yeah, especially in today's college football playoff,
you don't know that you can get a shot to
go to the playoff. And so it's almost like for
some guy, especially guys who are thinking about that next level,
some guys, those guys start to pack it in a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
I'll just be real with you.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Well, listen, we're not going to pack it in because
we've got some midweek awards coming up here shortly.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
He do.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Oh you get you got a glimpse. It's looking all right.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
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Speaker 2 (37:33):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and ugly.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
All right, So lead the lapse.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Not here again camping, probably sitting by a fire right now, drinking, vomiting.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Who knows what's going on with Lead to lap is
he can use.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
I mean, the guy drinks enough where he's not gonna
vomit every time you find this.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
He does have this thing to where if he eats,
he wakes up in the middle of the night, and
if it just doesn't feel right, he'll just let him fly.
He just he's got no shame in his game. He
could explain all this tomorrow. But in his place we
have Brandon Truffe, who's been doing a bang up job
here the past couple of days.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
So Brandon. Who's got what this week? For the good,
the bad, the ugly? All right, so we have Britty
Quinn with the good. All right, well we'll do we'll
do one, we'll do one at a time.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Well, yeah, but we Jonas, did you know what you
were doing before we did the segment?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
No? No, Yeah, it's gonna.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Be a good. Yeah, I'll take the good if you want.
You got the good, I'll take I got something really
good to take the good. None, I'm gonna take the good.
You know what the good is for me? This week?
Speaker 5 (38:45):
Yesterday evening, I was at Ontario Christian watching my daughter
play a match in volleyball.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Christian.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Yeah, and I'm watching the game and then this, that
and the other, and I you know, Courtney Brown was
in town to is it a family member and was like,
you know, if he could get some time, we would
meet up. That didn't seem like we were going to.
I'm sitting in the game. I look at the door.
My wife comes walking in the door and I see
a dude that made her look you know, like I do,
(39:15):
maybe even smaller. And it was Courtney six came into
the game and surprised me. At the game last night,
you know, there's only a few things that get me
emotionally charged up, like where I could possibly cry, and
you know, have to like hide my emotions and my
feelings when I see one of my comrades, one of
my bros, somebody that I went.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
To blows with, bled with, sweat with, worked.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
With, you know, cried with, left with, and I see
them unexpectedly super super good. So it was really cool
catching up with Courtney Brown yesterday.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Man, there you go. Yeah, so there's there's a good
work for Yeah. I mean my good was gonna be
a little different, Okay.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
I was gonna say, hey, look, we are on the
cusp of Week one college A ball.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
I'm not discounting Week zero, clearly I was. I was there.
I was present for it.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
I'm just saying, now we get the rest of the
crew involved, you know, we get all the Power five
group of five.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
We had everyone involved.
Speaker 6 (40:11):
So I cannot wait for the start of college football.
I cannot wait for the start of the NFL season.
Football is here, folks, it is here. We can go
every single weekend now knowing we got some football to watch.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I like, nice, all right, I'll take the bad. I
know I had the badge. So I'm gonna take I'll
take the bad damn. Here you go, but we can
double love. Let's double listen.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
I was getting my my mocha coffee yesterday at at
the the you know, at the studio. I thought I
was laying a landmine and a trap lead to walk into.
In the break area, I let one of the worst
most vile files, smelling sting bombs go, and it was
(41:02):
had the nerve to be loud, and Eddie heard it,
and Eddie came walking in.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
And I did not want Eddie to walk anywhere near.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Me because of the situation and the circumstances that we're
surrounding what had been taking place. And and yet he
did come through. And I'm I'm sorry, Eddie. I'm still apologetic.
I'm very sorry Eddie.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
LeVar. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Yeah, but I don't know if that stronger. You're still here, man,
don't know what the long term effects of that was.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Still, verdict is still out, But little.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Visions I will say that, oh man, that is yeah,
Lee not being here and Eddie walks right into Levar's remnants.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Yeah, it was. It was bad.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
It's like my best I guess I'll take the ugly,
all right. So, I mean, which I'm not a big
fan of. I don't like to be negative, but you know,
somebody's got to do it, so I'll take the ugly.
I mean, we're led to believe that this Top twenty
five that college football rolls out every year is what
we should be focusing on when we're trying to preview
(42:11):
games and all that. Well, if that's the case, what
do we got one top twenty five matchup this entire weekend?
It's the Labor Day Extravaganza, and we got to wait
until Sunday night to get a five verse an eight.
We couldn't do a little bit better. You couldn't groove
the top twenty five to at least make some of
these things a little more appealing. Now, make no mistake,
we'll be watching, obviously the big noon boys who are
(42:34):
going to be covering the TCU Colorado game. We're going
to be watching that. In Prime's debut, LaVar Arrington's going
to be doing work for the Penn State West Virginia game.
You got the Battle of the Carolinas. There's some fun
stuff there, but I think it's a little ridiculous and
borderline ugly that college football presents this Top twenty five
and they don't really give us a whole lot to
(42:55):
go on. When it comes to Top twenty five matchups.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
You realize the scheduling happens sometimes like eight years in.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Advance, make adjustments.
Speaker 6 (43:02):
Well, I don't think the Top twenty five is just
gonna rank teams because they're.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Playing figure it out. You got enough money now, ess,
Damn that ugly
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