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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
To its Mark there. Yeah, Mark.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Money More.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It's two Pros, no Cup of Joe this week. Jonas
is out the rest of the week. We'll be missing him,
but he's enjoying some time off. Well deserved too, I
might add. And as much as I wanted the song
to continue to play, it's time to welcome in our guest,
the one and only Pete Prisco. He's a senior NFL
columnists for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analyst as well,
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and Pete has been traveling around uh the NFL. He
was in Green Bay most recently. He's got some trips
coming up soon as well. But Pete, thanks for joining
us today. How you doing, hi, Pete?
Speaker 5 (01:18):
What's up? Guys? How are you? Jonas on vacation? I
took a little time off little R and R did
he Yeah, yeah, it's good for him.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
He's trying to create memories.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
With his kids. Yeah, forget, that'd be part time.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
See that's LeVar. LeVar is like, he's got one left.
So he's like, I'm over this. I've done it with
four others. I'm over this now.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
But he's only got one, so he gets now, he
gets no. He gets no love from me, Pete.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Well, he's only got one, just like you.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You don't get any love either, Pete Prisco and you
never get me ar that is true.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
There's a lot of back and forth going on here, Pete.
We were talking earlier about high Mark Stadium. Not only one,
it's the smallest venue for fixed seating. But then, how
do you possibly have obstructive views in a stadium that's
built in twenty twenty six? I don't get it. Can
you help me understand it? Are you going to Buffalo
at some point soon?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Well? I was actually in Rochester because they trained in
Rochester for a couple of days. Last week, and I
didn't see the new stadium. They were going there to
practice the next day on have that you know, first
little whatever they do that nighttime thing they do the
next night, and everybody's excited about it. They were nervous,
but clearly, what the hell did the architecture do? I
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mean the architect I mean, what did he do? How
do you how do you dec I think we can't.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I think he jumped.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
He jumped through a table at some point, maybe hit
his head and forgot that they should make sure all
all the fans were able to actually see the entire field,
and it just it seems like that maybe got overlooked
at some.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Point here, you know what, Brady. Somebody told me, and
this surprised me a little bit. Somebody out there, I asked,
because they have personal seat licenses and they sold them,
which I thought that would be a sell for them
because of you know, it's not actually a huge city,
but I guess people come from Toronto and all over.
But they sold them, and they're they're making a lot
of money on those seat licenses, and you pay those
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and then you got to pay for the tickets. So look,
they needed a new stadium. The stadium looks beautiful other
than those obstructed views. And can you imagine if you
paid a bunch of money to get an obstructed view seat.
I would just absolutely go back and say, look, I'm
not sitting in the seat. No way.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
They got they gotta do something to correct it. I
just think that that's a bad look. If if they don't,
what's your about?
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Let me ask you this, because I haven't been like
upsitting in the stadium in a long time. What do
they do now in the new stadiums with the like
when they put the railings in, because you got to
have the railings. It's clear you gotta have railings, So
what do you do? Put clear glass on them? Is
that what they do?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well?
Speaker 6 (03:49):
I do have clear glass railings in the photos that
that that Q sent out to me, this clear glass
like windows.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
But no, the metal that holds the glass up looks
like that's why they can't see. But what do you do?
How do you? I mean for safety reasons, you might
have to have that, So what do you do?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
How about not put a seat behind something where if
you sit down you can't see over it?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Like that would be what I would do this?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Or you guys have gotten to a concert venue where
they sell it and it says obstructed.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
View seat, right, yeah, yeah, I've seen that before.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Yeah yeah, So I mean maybe, you know, maybe that's
what they do with that. I don't know. Look, it
looks terrible. Can you imagine paying that money to sit
there and watch that? It's awful. And everybody always says, well,
you can watch the boards when you go to game
to watch the game. You don't go to watch the boards.
You go to watch the game. So I sympathize those people.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I will say this Dallas the Stadium, that that's fricking
screen so big, man, it's hard not to It's like
it actually kind of catches your eye more than the
field does, and that's a massive when.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
You're doing a game there. There's no question about that. Brady.
I agree with you. One. You kind of, you know,
you kind of catch yourself looking up and down. You're
going like, you know, okay, I want to look at
the field. I want to see it the all twenty
two vision version of it. But I also look at
that and you go, oh my gosh, I think is
so clear and so big. You do find yourself looking
at it.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
That was The other thing people will bring attention to
is how small, how small the scoreboards are that the
new stadium.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Did you hear that or notice that they're not?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Well, no, they're not very big. I was because most
people most stadiums now have gone to those, you know,
massive scoreboards, and that one did not Those two on
the end did not look very big. Now I couldn't
tell is there another one in there somewhere? I couldn't
tell that. But you do not look very big.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I think if you can't tell that, that's probably telling
enough if that's the case.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
But you know, I thought different angles of it. You know,
it was more more of the people complaining about their
obstructed views at this scoreboard.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
What did you see? What did you see from Buffalo
when when you were there, when you were watching them?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
What more aggression? More aggressive on defense? Yeah, And I
think Jim Leonard is going to do that. I mean,
he's going to throw a bunch of different looks at you.
He's going to attack you a bunch of different ways.
But Sean McDermott really did a hell of a job
in Buffalo. You can't take that away from him. And
he's going to be a good coach at his next stop.
But the reality is it probably got stale and things
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needed to change a little bit. You go back to
that Denver playoff game. You're in third and ten, late
in the game, you got to get a stop. What
do they do? They play off coverage. The guy sits
down in his own boom twelve yards first down drive continues,
and I think that frustrated a lot of people. So
now you bring in Jim Leonard and Britty, you know
him from the college game. He's going to come. He's
going to attack you a little more. He's spent time
with in Denver, He's learned that defense a little bit more,
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and I think he's going to get after it. And
I think they're going to be better on the defense
a lot better. You look at the size that's always
been a problem for them. You know, Dion Walker and
DJ Sanders take the next step. They're going to be
much more physical upfront. Getting Chubb he's a pro. They
follow him around. They're big russo rushing the passer, and
you know guys like Michael Hoyt getting back off injury.
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And I think they're going to be much better on defense,
much more aggressive. They're not going to just sit back
and allow teams to dictate to them, which I think
something they have to do.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, I get the impression he's just going to play
to the defensive scheme. To his talent, you know, he
strikes me as one of those where you know, he
obviously played in a Rex Ryan scheme, so he understands that.
But you talked about just his experience being in Denver too,
and how that's impacted him. I remember talking to him
back when he's that Wisconsin and and just the way
they wanted to play, you know, their defense and how
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their defensive structure, and even on as he took over
his interim head coach for a bit, you know, you
could kind of see some of that. So I think
it's going to play a lot to some of the
guys you're talking about. I want to talk about the
Dallas Cowboys. We opened up the show talking about the
Quinn Williams deal, but I just want to go back.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I mean, if you look at the Smith deal and
the old line, they're on bland now.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Quinn Williams, it's like everyone besides Micah Parsons was business
as usual, and it feels like that was the one outlier,
and it's been one of those off seasons for Dallas
that kind of feels like Philly, like they're just getting
deals done, getting their roster set and.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Potentially for a big year.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Like how do you view not only the signing of
Quinn and Williams, but just even the prospects of what
Dallas has done this offseason to bolster their defense and
what that could mean this year.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
I love what they've done. I think they're the best
team in the division and and I think they're gonna
win the division. I'm you know, I'm you know, Berdie,
I'm big on Dak Prescott. I think Dak Prescott's underrated.
I think he's done a great job. I think when
he gets protected, he's gonna put up big numbers. And
I think the offensive line pretty good now less tackle's
kind of in a competition, although, uh, you know the
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kids winning that, the second year players winning it. But
the reality is is if they can protect him, he's
going to score a lot of points. And I think
they'll run the ball. I think they're gonna be much better.
They got to stay healthy, but they'd be much better
on offense. And they've been good on offense but they've
been forced to be good. That flips it over to
the other side. I think defensively, they're going to be
so much improved. I mean, they're gonna get after it.
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You know, they're gonna they're gonna play. They got guys
who can rush the passer. Now, you know, now they
need some young players to step up, and I think
they will. But I think you look at their draft.
You look what they added. They got some good corner pieces.
They were decimated by injuries on that side of the ball.
Obershawn's back, I mean, I think that's big. My guy
Barsham from Michigan's been really good so far playing linebacker
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for him, and so I think you add that all up,
they're going to be so much better on defense and
combine it with the offense that can score a ton
of points. I think they're a team to be in
that division, and I think they're going to push for
a lot more than that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
By the way, wow, the team to beat.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
So you're not maintaining faith in Philadelphia to deliver. I mean,
you know, obviously they've done such a great job of
being able to maintain the talent even when they do
lose some guys.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I mean, I'm.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Skeptical, but I still say Philly's got to be considered
the toast of the East right now. Still they got
to be dethroned, right or do you not look at
it that way?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah? I mean, look, you've got to take him out,
You've got to go get him. And they come in
as probably the favorite of the division. But I think
Dallas will get him this year. I do. I think
that Tilly has some issues, you know, the quarterback situation.
How's that going to play out? I mean, he's been
good in big games. He's been fantastic in big games
because there's moments where he has him been great. And
you know, now with AJ Brown not there, what happens
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to the passing game? And do they get back running
the football? Now you hear Lane Johnson's talking about retiring
after the season. Is the offensive lineback healthy? You know?
Is Jalen Carter now that he got paid, Is he
going to become the force that they thought he would
become last year because he didn't play that well and
I know he was banged up a little bit, but
he didn't play that well last year. So there are
a lot of questions with that team more so maybe
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than even in the Cowboys. So and when I look
at it, look, I go straight to the quarterback position,
and people don't want to hear this, but I take
Dak Prescott over Jalen Hurts all day.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I mean, I think he's outside of the Super Bowl win.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I think you'd say, like Dak's been really, really good,
really consistent in particular throwing the football, So I can
understand why you'd say that. I was going to transition
to talk kind of more about where the Giants are.
We've been talking a little bit about the NFC's division
and really Washington. We talked about how like Washington's that
team that they could be improved this year to some degree,
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but also if they get off to a bad start,
they could be that team that falls victim to maybe
Dan Quinn being on the hot seat.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
And I always say that.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Because the ownership group, how the first season went, and
then kind of where it feels like they've regressed to, like,
how do you view those other two teams within the
division if you feel like it's really Dallas and Philly
maybe playoff teams or are fighting for the top of
the division, And then what's the other half.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Look like to you, yeah, I'm not. I think the
Giants are a year away. I think you got a
new coach taking over, and Harball has done a good
job in Baltimore and that got a little stale down
there too. But I think you know, see how dark
takes the next step where it neighbors looks good, but
where is the all season? I think the offensive line
will be bigger and stronger. Defensively, they're going to get
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after the quarterback on the front end, but the back
end has some concerns, So I think they'll they'll be better.
I just think watch out for them next year. I
think the next year is their year. You know, you
go to Washington, it'll lose your left tackle. That's a
brutal hit to start the season. I mean, you lose
your best offensive lineman in Tunsil, and now you've got
to play Coleman back over there again. That's a worry.
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And I think anytime you change coordinators, when a coach
changes both of them, you know that usually says okay,
this year, the spotlight's on me. And look, I've known
Dan Quinn for a long time and he'd probably be
the first one to tell you he has to win
this year. I think there's going to be a lot
of pressure on him to win. If he doesn't, I
don't know if they make a change, depending on how
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it goes. I mean, if you missed the playoffs by
one game or something, that probably not. But if they went,
you know, if they had four or five wins, then
think there's gonna be a lot of pressure in that organization.
You know, after you change both coordinators, it goes the
spotlight clearly goes straight on the head coach.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
What others storylines are developing for you that's percolating as
you travel around.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Pete, Well, I think the injuries all over the league,
I mean, and we say that every year. I mean,
training camp isn't what it used to be, as you
guys know, but you're still getting all these injuries, and
that's you know, that's always concerning to me to see
who can make it through without suffering the injuries. It's
a survival test. You guys know that if it's the
team that you know doesn't get just killed with injuries
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is going to be the one at the end that
you know, it's probably they're playing for a super Bowl
or you know, at least competing for it, because you
look at teams that look at the forty nine ers already,
they're just banged up again and over and over again.
You see guys going down, and so I think it's
the teams that can, you know, navigate through the training
camp and the preseason without suffering the major injuries and
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hope you don't have any during the regular season that
are going to be the ones that are in the end,
are the ones that are going to be competing for
the Super Bowl and maybe even winning it. It health
matters that. But I think when we see these injuries
and guys go down, you go, oh no, not again again.
I mean you see Walker go down in Atlanta, and
now there, all of a sudden, that team's dynamic has
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totally changed. You got probably a suspension coming for Peers.
You got Walker now out for the year, and all
of a sudden, the team that you thought was going
to be really good rushing the passer going to have
major problems rushing the passer. And so it changes the
whole feeling of that team just because of one injury
and one suspension.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Pete, I do want to climb down that rabbit hole
of conspiracy theories because we were looking at this yesterday,
Was that right, LeVar? We were looking at the when Levi's
stadiums was built, and I think they are based on
what research we've been able to find, the forty nine
ers have been one of the most, if not the
most injured team during that period of time. At what
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point do you start drawing some conclusions from that? Maybe
there is something about the substation that's right next to
those stateium in practice field, Like maybe there is something
to that considering how banged up they have been since
they've gotten Levi's.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Well, I mean, you can do a study on it.
Have they done any study on who knows?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I mean it could be I'm telling you, but based
on just the injury rate, they have been one of
the top teams, if not the most since twenty fourteen
when they opened up their Levi's.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yeah, I mean, but Brady, is it coincidence or is
it I mean, you know what I mean? Or is
it just a conspiracy? Is it a conspiracy theory?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
It's it's like what twelve years of data? I mean,
you tell me, like, what would you drive from that?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Or do they We're going to plead the fifth Falci.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
I'm talking to people training program. Is I hear the
training program is fantastic. It really is. But but I
guess why to get hurt? Who knows this?
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Is it fantastically so fantastic that they're they're getting injured?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Come on, Pete taking a side on that man?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
And I told you this last week. I thought. I
think I said this last week or the week before.
I think guys overtrained now, and I think that leads
to problems.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I think we're guys over twenty twelve years ago.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
No, they were not. You know, it's different now, Brady.
I'm going going to go pay it's fifteen thousand dollars
to go work out from January you know, thirtieth to
April first. Then I'm going to go to the facility
and work out from April first until you know, June
or whatever they break from mini camp, and then I'm
gonna go back to the facility for another ten grand
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to work out until I get to training camp. And
then I'm gonna go to training camp. Where's your body resting?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (16:33):
But you do know Q hit you with twelve years
for a reason, though, So go ahead hitting with the
punchline que.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, I'm just saying it's you're saying of late, Like
twelve years ago you said they weren't. Okay, Well, now
we're back twelve years ago, and then how about another
three or four years after that? Like they they have
faced these injuries time and time again. I mean, are
you are you in on the conspiracy.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Theory or are you not? Because like it's enough to
give a study.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
I don't buy I don't buy it. I don't okay.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
I think he's worried about I think I know what
this is too, he's worried about.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
I'm not worried about anything. I just don't say. I
don't buy this. I mean it's it's coincidence more than anything.
Now they go out, okay, find out that what what Brady?
What from? How about this?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
No, no, I know how we can prove this.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
We get you to go out there and for a
week stand next to the substation of practice as close
as you can. Let's see, let's see how you feel
like every day. We're gonna have your journal. Then we're
gonna we're gonna then compile all of your experience after
that week, and then and then and bowie, you still
have to work out, you still have to do your
biking and stuff just become subject to injury.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
So let me ask you this, Bridie, what do you
think the substation is doing?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I don't know, dude.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I mean, you hear people talk about how there's like
the electric magnetic field, how that impacts soft tissue injuries
and that sort of thing. I mean, that's that's at
least the base basic description of what I've read is that.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
It makes more susceptible to that because it's it's right
there next to the state, right the more are the
more visiting players being hurt in that.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Stadium, Well, they're not closed to it long enough.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Oh oh, I see, now we find out that it's
going to be long term exposure to the subject.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
I mean, isn't that what it would be consistent? I mean,
I would assume that's what it would consist of. Be
is not how that around you get the slow drip
every day, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
And what if you go to the actually and what
is actually contributing to it? What do they get? What's
what's happening to their bodies?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
The soft tissue gets weakened because of it makes injury
from what though? For the electromatics, the electromatic net field
from the substation.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Yeah, I mean we we really really really have crossed over.
We start thinking that.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
By the way, Okay, that's fine, if that's if that's
the stance you take. It's just we're gonna have to
wait until you know, you get you know, get off there,
then we want to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Let me ask you this too. When you go, when
you go, like get treatment, don't you get electric stimulation
on your muscle of the times stem is different?
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Electure stimulation, Yeah, stiff, do get a lecture. It's different though, Yeah,
you put on.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Well maybe maybe they're over there, maybe on the substance.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
What do you proposing? You want someone just be hooked
up to the substations? That what you want? You want
all those players just to be like just shocked by
the substations.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
That would rather happen go to the substate you become superman.
How about that? You become the superman. I don't look,
I just think it's freak injuries that happen. I don't
think it has me personally. I don't think it has
anything to do with the substation. We just love to
blame things, and you know, oh, my gosh, there's a
substation over there.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Let me break what about what about the substation?
Speaker 5 (19:42):
And then where where the air is terrible? Are they
going to get asthma? I mean, come on, what.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
About the magnetic field making a tesla like cross lanes
and stuck? Is that possible that the potential of that
could have led to, you know, a fender bender of sorts?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
You know, well how close was he get a field?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I don't know?
Speaker 6 (20:05):
I mean, but but how do you Brady hates this story,
by the way, but since we're on it, I mean, okay,
hold on, do you have any do you have?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Can I chime in on? I don't hate the story.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Here's my thing, Pete, I don't know where we go
from here with the story like it was. It was
only a story because of how it was not reported
right away. And now that we've got like whatever it was,
whether it's he was on autopilot and he clicked it off,
or autopilot malfunctioned, or it was his thought or his
reaching for his faulty was reaching for his phone, like
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whatever the.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Case is, I'm just like, all right, where do we
go from here?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Like?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Like what more is there?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
That way?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
We go what am I missing?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Pete? What more?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Where is left? Well?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Again, I thought they handled it poorly. I said that
on the show. I said, I've said it time and again.
I think they handled it poorly. When that happens, you
have to come out and say it. Once you know
he's fine and there's no no danger of him you know, suffering,
you know, getting killed or anything. I think you've got
to come out and say, our head coach at an accident,
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he will be on the sidelines for a while. This
is what happened. Da da da da dah. And they
didn't do it, so they enabled the story to continue
and it's still continuing. So you're you know, you're not
wrong about that. I think you know at some point
people are going to go deeper diving into it, and
and what are.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
They deep diving for?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, but what are the kiddings?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Like, that's what I diving for?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Where is this going?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Like if you've got a car accident and then someone
reported it, it's like okay, like do we need to
dive into Yeah, p was reaching for his diet coke.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Like it's just like okay, like what are we what
are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (21:44):
And and even if it were a person, another person
in the car. Let's just say it came out later
another person was in the car. Is is that worth continuing?
I mean the deep dive based on like what what
is as?
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Can you just say what?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
What is the ultimate?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
No Levara Jonas have had LeVar Jonas Jonas speculated it.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I didn't you were you co signed that.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
All I said was I've been in enough tesla's to
know that it is hard to wreck a Tesla.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
That's all I know.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
And and listen, maybe Cayle Shanahan was in the one
car that malfunctioned.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
WHI was an autopilot. I get it. But if I
were to lose control.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Of my car, it would probably be because it was
worth losing control of the car in that moment. And
you know, I'm just saying, I'm a man, you.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Know, so who you're saying in the Tesla, if you
and Brady had to tell it, if you lean down,
you can't the car will will stay in autopilot.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
It'll bro you could go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Here's what I'd say, that's not true about this one.
All teslas aren't like that. You have to have a
certain autonomous mode for it. For the autopilot. There are
some that are lesser where you have to have your
hands in the wheel. It will even track your facing
if you're not like facing towards you know, the like
the road, if you're not looking towards the road. There's guys,
there's guys who actually have invented this little figure they
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can clip on the like right in front of the
camera to be on the wheel. Well, no, it just
has their face has to be looking forward because because
it's filming their face the movement, so it makes it
look like it.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Makes it look like your face is looking.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Forward exactly exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So there's all sides of different ways they've messed with
the Jerry Riggitt.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
But my point is when.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I had one, it actually got a little funky at times,
like if a car on the highway in particular started
to get close to you, it would like immediately shut
off autopilot.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
It would like jerk the car.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
It was.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It was actually rather like at times scary because you're like, damn,
like I don't have as much control in this moment
because I'm not actually controlling it.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
The car was and it wasn't a great experience.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
So I think they happened to you like you would
literally like it would like sort of swerve like it
really would like kind of like the car would freak out.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
It would be maybe one of them, maybe he had
one of them old ones. Here's my thing? Then why
not say that? Yeah? Why not say that?
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Well? Why here's the other part of it. What happened
to the police cameras, the body cam? I mean, that's
that's an interesting part of it.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
And the fact that there was the clerical errors there
were there were errors made and what was reported and
who was going for see and and my question is
why do you make it a point to come out
and say it and then come out and explain it
again and detail again. It just it's just I don't know,
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maybe I watched too many crime shows. I just it
just kind of came across as one of them those
alibis that you could poke holes in it. But to
Q's point, look, don't I don't really care.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Okay, but if it happened the way they said it happened, okay,
and it actually he was reaching for his phone. He
swore he hit them. But whatever, even having that happened
the way it did, you still can't wait as long
as you did to allow it to come out, you
just can't. You've got to put that out there. And
they sure, and so pr standpoint. I thought they handled
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it poorly and that's the story. But I still am
just like, like where do we what we keep talking about?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Like I'm a surprised LeVar has not gotten in a
diner Sini Mike Vrabel reference because he's always trying to
get well.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
I mean, it does come across as the standard of
how you know they call it what what did Whitner
call it?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Access media?
Speaker 6 (25:43):
If they would have not did what the forty nine
ers wanted them to do as local media reporters, they
would have not had access. And I'm not so sure
that isn't true. You get the situation with the Racini
and the Vrabel deal. It's like it went away.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
It just like it you're saying. You're saying that if
the local forty nine ers reporters knew about it, didn't
report it because they wouldn't get access to the team.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I mean, that's the possibility. That's that that was that,
that is what what was putting out.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
They still have to have that, they would still have access.
Now there could be a lot of people that wouldn't
want to talk to them, and that's their right, but
you'd still have to have the access to be able
to go into the facility, go into the locker room,
go into that because you're just doing your job. That
would be that would be one of the worst things
that could ever happen. I don't think it could happen,
to be honest with you, So no labar. That could
not happen. Now, you could have a bunch of people
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in your organization decide, okay, maybe there was a guy
in the organization, a guy who covered a team who
got some time with Shanahan on the side, you know,
talking to him, getting details, and and then that.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
We're getting cut off. We're getting cut off.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, Pe, there they're they're pulling you off stage.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
We gotta go. We got Pete.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
We always appreciate the insight, always appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Well, we gotta get to pray, can we gotta get
to break.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I love thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
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Speaker 4 (29:03):
I love it, Mark, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Man.
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I do two pros. No cup of Joe. Not for
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Speaker 1 (29:11):
I'm pretty Quinn, that's LeVar Arrington just have a nice
conversation with Pete Prisco. That conversation LeVar may have never ended.
We did ask him about Dallas Cowboys though, And for
those who missed it, the extension for Quinn Williams over
one hundred million in total guarantees, and it begs the
question will Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones have enough money
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to be able to keep Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens
around long term. They'd like to do it. However, things
get more difficult. But you talked about earlier, LeVar. I mean,
that's like quite the one two punch, and hopefully it's
for more than just a year. Do you think Steven
Jones can keep them all together?
Speaker 6 (29:51):
I think they can, and I think they depending on
what Pickens does this year, I think they will and
I don't think they will have any any problem doing so,
and and and so you know, to to put a lot.
I mean, there's there is pressure on this Dallas team.
(30:14):
It's because they're Dallas for one, but for two, you
have so much talent and and you again you probably
have one of the best receiving duos in all of
in the NFL. So but I do think they can.
I definitely think they can can get pick and sign. Yeah,
what do you think?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I look at it, and I just think usually there're
certain owners who have the capability, have the deeper pockets
to be able to pay out a bunch of cash
and signing bonuses.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I mean Quinnon Williams.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Deal I believe was over thirty million, maybe over thirty
five million. If I'm not mistaken. We talked about that
over thirty over thirty million, and that obviously helps lessen
the cap impact as you spread it out through however
many numbers of years. You know, you talked about the
issue with Michael Parsons agent. George Pickens does not have
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the same agent, so I was with the same agency,
but they he's not a leader, not at least represented
by the same agent, So maybe there is more hope
or optimism.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
I would think so too.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I mean, at the end of the day, you wouldn't
want your player not to cash in on a big
time deal with the owner, who again has deep pockets,
has the capability of doing it purely because of a
relationship with an agent. But we've seen that story play
it out before, so I'm with you. I feel like
they can get it done. It just comes down to you,
you know. Do they view this year as a year
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to observe the combination of ceedelamb George Pickens and see
how those two are are able to continue to play
together and see if they can make it long term.
I mean, one of the concerns with George Pickens is
you go back to his time with the Pittsburgh Steelers,
and it just felt like he was in positions to,
you know, want to cash in on a bigger deal,
and at times it seemed like he was indifferent about football,
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And I think that's a big time concern.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
If you're going to pay a guy you know over
one hundred million.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Guarantees, which is again he's George Pickens is probably in
line for something along those lines. So it feels like
potentially a new frontier for the Dallas Cowboys and ceede
Lambill speaking Prescott.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
I mean, if we're talking about frontiers, I mean, heck,
they might as well drive to work together in one.
I mean, respect the pickup truck and respect it in
Dallas for certain. Right, if you're heading to the Star,
make sure you drive there the right way, right, get
there without making a fuss. And that's doing it in
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a Nissan Frontier. Its built for the work week, but
it also gets you ready and loaded up for a
tailgate on weekends.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Make sure you.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Jump in and try twenty twenty six Nissan Frontier coming up.
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Speaker 2 (33:38):
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Speaker 4 (33:41):
Damn, so I kind of came in hot.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It did come in hot.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Gee.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know, we had a long discussion about the conspiracy
theory of the electrical substation out there in San Francisco.
And I hate to I should say, Santa Clara, I
hate to admit to tell a story, but another forty
nine ers is was injured and at this time, Christian mccaffley,
a parent is being held out. It's past Monday with tightness.
It's not disclosed when he will return or not, but
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never a good sign. And so they obviously want to
be cautious with arguably the best player on their team
as they approach the season, knowing the heavy workload that
Christian McCaffrey will get once he gets out there on
the field.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Man, well, you know, I don't know if it's the substation,
but I do know that they do need Christian McCaffrey
if they're going to have a chance to be as
good as they need to be. You're high on them.
I'm still waiting for them to go off the rails,
and this is probably as big a big a year
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for them to do that than than any other.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Just just do you say that because of all the
off the field stuff, like I was the Kyle Shannon stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
I mean that the Kyle Shanahan part plays a part
in it. I just think they're aging. I mean they
brought back Deebo Samuel, you know what I mean, Like
they're aging team.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Your best players are fighting.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Through injuries with Trent Williams and Christian McCaffrey, even Brock
Perdy has had to fight through injuries. Warner had to
fight through an injury. It'd be good to see him
back out there, but I just I don't. I just
feel like it's hard for me to be high on
this team because they're an aging team that gets banged
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up seemingly more than any other team.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Well, and again, the electrical Substation, I believe, tweeted in
with this news like said, the stories right themselves, which
it's whoever's handling that accounts doing a great job.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
But they're not wrong. They're not wrong in that regard.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
We did have the Hall of Fame Game preseason game.
I'm not sure if you saw the ratings for this,
but it was the highest rated preseason averaged about almost
seven million viewers.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
That's the biggest since twenty.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
One one, which was the Dallas Cowboys when they played
the Steelers. That was a little over seven million viewers.
It's surprising, though there's a lot of people who don't
say they don't watch the preseason. They say they don't
care about it, or maybe it goes away. It still
draws a lot of ratings. Man, it's still fun to watch.
But do you think that was in Part two? Just
because of how the game ended.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, maybe, I don't know. It was.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
It was an exciting game. I mean when you see
quarterbacks running and putting it on the line and making
some pretty good throws, I mean it was. It held
entertainment value for certain from a competitive standpoint, so yeah,
I could see that.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I think that the tough part about it is Haines King,
I believe got banged up, heard his hamstring, so as
we've heard in that reports, as heroic as it was,
he might be out for a little bit of time.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
A little time, no the kang.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
A little bit of tying. Yeah, might be up for
a little bit of tying. I know that's right.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
One more story, this should be no surprise to anyone.
Larry Fitzgerald, the Cardinals legend. They'll be retiring his number
eleven jersey into the Cardinals Ring of Honor at halftime
during Week seven against the Broncos. Not sure exactly why
they would pick that game. I'm not sure if they
feel like it's winnable as their home gun geez maybe,
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but that's the thing they selected.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I don't know why they do that.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
That doesn't seem like the right, that doesn't seem like
the right matchup.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, that doesn't seem like his winnable one is based
on his schedule.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Maybe that's what it is, because they might get shut
out for that one.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
You might look at that, see that you can't see.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
You know, were you surprised he never went to another
team throughout the course of his career.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
You know.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
If you know fits and I'm sure you've met him
through the years played, Oh yeah, no, it doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
It doesn't surprise me. He's that type of guy man,
just a.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Super loyal dude, understands the value of building in the
community and for.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
What it's worth.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
This was one of those rare instances where the organization
felt the same exact way about him that he did.
Because a lot of us are loyal guys, you know,
but when it's time to go sometimes, if you want
to keep playing, you gotta go. Arizona Cardinals didn't force
Larry to have to do that, and Larry Fitzgerald gladly
did what he needed to do to stay there, so
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it worked out for everybody. Man, he's a cardinal, and
I would say, you know, I know, and Nias Williams
jumps out there, I know, obviously, Pat jumps out there
at you in terms of his service and giving his
life for our country.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
But I gotta say, Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
And my book, is probably the greatest Arizona cardinal ever.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I mean, look, he's a Hall of Famer, played there
all seventeen years of his career. Obviously, was an incredible
talent as far as the player, Eleven Pro Bowls and
obviously some All Pro honors to go along.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
With that, Walter Payton Man of the Year.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
So to your point about everything he represented there, he
was obviously the pinnacle of I think what an organization
would hope to have. And a guy they drafted, a
guy they extended, the guy they continually kept on the roster.
Back to my initial question, though, sixteen different quarterbacks through
at least one touchdown pass to Larry Fitzgerald during the
course of his NFL career pretty crazy.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
You know, he had more tackles than he had drops
in his NFL career. Yeah, that's now, that is crazy.
You had more tackles in your NFL career than you
did drops.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
That is what you.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
Call sure handed or you just had to play a
lot of defense.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Well, and there's a couple of things to that.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Stam out in talking about just his career, won the
sixteen different quarterbacks, but he still maintained a really high
level of production.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Even into his late thirties, you know.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
And I think the other thing that he did what
was interesting was he transitioned from really an outside receiver
to a guy who played more within the slot. And
you're asked to do so many different things in doing that,
but he was able to make the adjustment and at
the same time was able to transition to a spot
that requires sometimes a different feel for how you're going
to run your routes play the game, a lot of
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those tight window catches or going across the middle. I mean,
he was still up for that challenge at the latter
four of his career. So just a true legend, truly
an honor, and this is obviously no surprise to anyone
who is a Cardinals fan and watched him.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
Hey man, I gotta say I didn't feel like you
dropped your phone in between your seat or in the
back seat of the car.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
I felt like you drove very well today, bro.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
You got us from point A to point B, we
got to the destination.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Man, job well done, bro, job.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Big thank you to Pete Prisco, our guest today, patty
sweeka obviously in mighty mark behind the scenes and.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Obviously you you're making the conversation easy for me.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
So we will be back tomorrow on two pros again,
no Joe, but we'll be back.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Thanks for joining us, have a great day.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
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