November 17, 2021 • 38 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar talk about the open race for NFL MVP and the lack of buzz around the Heisman this year. The Old P, Petros Papadakis joins the guys to talk CFB Playoff Rankings, Thanksgiving Football and this year's long list of firings becoming an arms race. Plus, an end of an era at Staples Center and a chance to own part of the greatest athlete of all time on The Scraps.
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on fs are. It has been a wild and wacky
show thus far, a lot of lots of interesting stories,
everything from shrunken skulls, too foot long subs to you
name it. Just very very bizarre show thus far. And
h and whatever island boys are. I have no idea.
I didn't even know what that means. But Roberto and Brady,
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especially the name of the song, I don't think that's
actually who those Well, the song sucks for what it's
not good. I thought it was amazing. Boy, it's very catchy,
and it's funny because Jonas is the one who selected
itself Smoking on my island tree. I'm so tired of
this every time. This is all the shoot first mentality.
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You get knocks locks, you know that. I'm just so fat.
It's a terrible song. Um and for whatever reason, and
so Laskinen led to some really good fix man all right,
speaking of I have no legs. I have no legs
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from me? That all right? So from eating there, So
we have got We've got we got an NFL m
v P odds. We've got college football Heisman odds. Who
what which one do you want? First dealer's choice, Brady Quinn,
which odds. Would you like to hear first? And I
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want to get your thoughts on some of these little
bar on the where we're standing right now, let's go
v alright, So m v P odds right now, Josh
Allen is your favorite. This according to Fox Bet, Josh
Allen is the favorite to win m v P, followed
by Yeah, followed by Tom Brady, then Dak Prescott, then
Matt Stafford. As they continue to try and shoehorn in
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Matthew Stafford into everybody's lives here because he's now remember
the l A Rams I mean, I'm telling you he's
thrown away the m v P race Stafford too many
interceptions and and it's sad because a lot of those
are drops and also and also those are on standalone
games story you're seeing him play bad football, big time,
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and he did that twice to two times in a row.
Josh Allen, though Brady the I don't think he looks
nearly as good as he did last year. And yet
he's sitting here going into week eleven plus two fifty
or the odds, so he's a little over two to
one favorite to win the NFL m v P. And
I'm looking around going. I don't know that you can
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give it to Brady Um Dak Prescott missed time, keep going,
come on, come Rodgers time, Murray missed that. But you
can't base Kyler or Aaron Rodgers off of a miss
game or two. I don't think, well, I think that's
hold on, No, no, no, that doesn't that that we've
we've had former at the m VPS miss a game
or two. Aaron Rodgers won't win it because the media
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doesn't want him, but he should he WoT he should be.
Wouldn't it be great? Idol? Talent supersedes personal agendas for certain,
that would be fantastic. We Um, he's you know, he's
played phenomenous year. It's your point. You know Josh Allen
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hasn't played as well as he did last year. That's
where he could be a victim of of his own circumstances,
meaning like he played so well last year that when
you don't get back that kind of similar to Mahomes.
Once he threw fifty touchdown passes in a regular season,
people are like, well, if you don't do that again,
like why should you get m v P. It's like, wait, what,
how does that make sense? Um? But that's where we're at.
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Like when you look at every one of these names,
like I think Tom Brady, with what he's doing at
his age, probably should get it. It's ridiculous what he's doing.
He's had a bad two game skid. I think five
turnovers the past couple of games. I can't win it
with that. But he's forty two. He's doing this right,
I mean, it's ridiculous. Stafford is the guy that based
on the odds right now because of how they've looked,
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which ironically too, by the way, did you do at
this point in the season last ye week for also seventh?
So Jared goff should have been up for league MVP.
It's just impossible. That's the true records got. Stafford's got
eight more touchdown passes than goffed at this point, and
he's leading the league in yards. But but it's it's
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impossible that I just I refused to believe it because
they got rid of Jared goffs. I just assumed everything
was going to be fine, by the way, according you think,
according to Brady Quinn, the best part about Jared Goff
is that his first name is not Jack. Never something
you're the one to his dad's name. I digress, I
I digress. Um, you know, Batch, people don't be catching
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what job he's saying Pastrick Mahomes, though, what is he
seven team to one right now? Is that right? I
mean I would sprink a little bit on it. If
you could just continue to put up like the four
yard five touchdown performances, it's hard to kind of keep
him out of it, especially if they win their division.
But I don't know, it really is up for grabs,
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probably this year more so than any other. I mean,
I think Dak's squarely in the mix. Like you could
make the case that this week's matchup between the Chiefs
and the Cowboys, whoever comes out on top, is probably
in the lead, Like he's probably gonna be the front runner.
I would, And I just I look at it and
I go, well, he's he missed time, Dac missed times,
so that maybe they'll hold that against him, um, just
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based on all the other guys. But then you go
and you look around and it's like, all right, well,
all these guys are flawed. I mean, Brady's had a
couple of bad performances. Josh Allen doesn't look as good
as he did last year. For whatever that's worth. That
gets in people's minds. But Dak Prescott for me would
be the m v P. And we talked a week
ago Lamar Jackson. I said, you know, Lamar Action would
be the most Valuable Player, but I don't. He's all
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the way down the list. He's fourteen to one. So
I do because it looks like he got exposed on Thursday.
When you play these prime time stand alone games, it's
either gonna boost it or hurt it one way or another.
But I feel like the media really is pushing for
Stafford to win it. Like I really feel like they
don't want to give it to someone who's wonted before.
It just not justifiable yet I can how can you
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just I get that, But that's what they do. Like
they they'll they'll figure out a way of justify I mean,
he's leading the league of yards right now, he's got
what twenty four touchdowns, the eight interceptions. I mean, they'll
find a way of justifying it. But like from the
from the jump, you got the feeling that that's the
narrative the l A market and really the national media
wanted to portray, especially if this team looks like they're
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in a position to go on to win a Super Bowl. Okay,
let me ask you this. You can't take Josh Allen,
who's the favorite of plus two fifty? Again? This courtesy
a fox bet. Um, you degenerates might have something else
you're looking at, could you know, finagle the numbers a
little bit? But according to Fox bet, Josh Allen is
the favorite of plus two fifty. You can't pick the favorite.
You gotta pick one other guy that you legitimately think
has got a chance, which is Aaron Rodgers. Okay, yeah,
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sitting he's gonna media is not gonna lie. I mean
LaVar like listen, I mean, you just want to cause
problems for a Roger. I hate to do it. I mean,
he caused his own problems. He didn't need my help.
But I'm just saying I need none of my help.
I'm gonna say Dak Prescott, Yeah, I think because I
think he's a feel good story. I talked to an
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m v P voter and I asked, I said, he's
a shoeing for Comeback Player of the Year. So I said,
because he's gonna win that, do you say, Well, I
don't want to vote for him for the m v
P two and he said, no, he goes I'm gonna
vote for him for both and the way he's playing
right now things continue on. I said, Okay, that's interesting,
but I'm gonna I'm gonna say Dak Prescott because he
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also has a bit more favorable odds as far as
plus odds right now. Yeah. Um, by the way, that
that is weird that and I can understand why you
ask the question if you wouldn't come back Player of
the Year, you can't win the other one. It's it's
something you can't. It's just I think people want to
like spread out and that's weird and that that's weird,
Like like he's the comeback Player of the Year in
the m v P that should be fine. It's like
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you want Best Picture, you can't win Best Director as
well too. Why that's because you're you're all into the Hollywood.
You know, you're a so you have you have a
hard time understanding the real people out here and these
flyover states as you call it. I don't know why
I have to be attacked here on the air. If
you'd like to get Brady on Twitter at Charles Manson
is where you could find By the way, let's let's
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move on to the Heisman Trophy. I have no idea
what the hell is gonna happen to the Heisman Trophy.
And I also don't know that that people are even
talking about it that much. Like it feels like it's
it's not even a major interest that the college football
playoffs the storyline, and there's other coaches being fired, name, image, likeness,
all the other things that are happening in college football. Meanwhile,
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the Heisman Trophy is gonna be handed out. And what
a few weeks, three weeks, four, we I mean, what
are we looking at here? And we're sitting with According
to a Fox bet, Bryce Young, uh two to one
is the favorite right now to win the Heisman Trophy.
He should be listen if you would listen to Brady
Quinn after the spring game. He tried to tell you
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at ten to one, you could have gotten Bryce Young
at ten to one. Yes, he watched the spring game, folks.
At ten to one, Brady, you try to tell everybody
this is gonna be the guy. Yeah, it's kind of
like watching mac football. You know, you just have to
be invest in to watch the game. Um. But but
back to Bryce young. I I every single week I
watched him and because he's he's just special. That's the
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only way of putting it. It's one of those things
where you see enough quarterback play and you see someone
who just does the things that he does. He's special.
He should win it. And I said it before and
I'll stand by it, like he should win two during
his time at Alabama. Now that might be a little
bit more dependent upon what's around him, but he's just
a special player. But they're not the number one team.
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They're the number two team right now in the country.
And you know, the voting is pretty much wrapped up
and done, which this has been a controversy in the past,
is that a lot of the voters will just decide
who they want to vote for even before the championship weekend,
which I know frustrates a lot of like former Heisman winners.
We've talked about that with them, and it's kind of
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his like throws mud in the face of the process.
But a lot of them will cast their vote early
because they don't want to let that one last game
necessarily determine the entire body of work. But that's where
I wonder if depending on this year because they're really
outside of Bryce Young hasn't been like a consistent guy
at the top. I wonder if people are gonna wait
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and if they end up losing to Georgia, if that
will ultimately be the difference between him winning and losing
the Heisman, because he should win it. I mean, you
could put up guys like Kenneth Walker Michigan State. He's
been fantastic, Kenny Pickett might be the most valuable to
his team. Uh, you know, but the part proj strouded C.
Stroud's not even the fifth best player on his team
and he's sitting with the second best dodge right now,
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which is which is It's absurd to me because I
think that's more of just the betting markets trying to
get you to put money on someone because he's a
part of a big brand State, right Like if Garrett
Wilson is their best wide receiver, Christo lave is behind him,
Jackson Smith and Jigba is there that you could you
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could name one of their tackles on their offensive line,
Trevion Henderson, Like all those guys are actually better players
and are like more talented. But Stroud's got the stats
and so that's where the people are trying to make
an argument for him. I just don't see it, like
I don't. I don't think it's even close to when
you watch his tape versus what Bryce Young is doing
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out there at Alba LaVar, your guy, Matt Kroll plus
seven fifty you can and you coached him right, yes,
help help mentor him and guide him when he was
at Long Beach Police. So great, great young man, fierce competitor.
I chilly think he's the best quarterback going into the
draft this year, if if I were to take a
stab at it, so I think he's been, in my opinion,
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outside of Caleb Williams and Bryce Young, I think he's
been the most valuable player to to his team in
terms of at that position, which we know that they
wait the position by you know, or they they rate
importance by how important the position is. So you know,
those are two I would look at and I would say,
you got to take a good heart long look at.
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But no doubt about it that Bryce Young has been
lights out. He's been amazing. Um and yeah, I mean,
but outside of him, I would also I would ultimately
say Matt Carroll or or you know, Caleb took that
tough loss this past weekend, but you know all had losses.
Here's the one thing to pay attention to, though. Watch
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if these odds shift dramatically, it's because somebody has talked
to enough voters or they've gotten a peek at somebody's
votes and gone, oh, that's where they're gonna go. Because
that's what That's what happened with Baker Mayfield. It's what
happened with Kyler Murray. All of a sudden one weekend,
he came in on a Monday, and the odds completely
shifted because either somebody put their votes in ear Leading
to what Brady said, it's it's two weeks to two
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weeks and ended right in the season. Most voters will
basically most most ballots will be done by by the end.
By these next two weeks, yeah, most of them will be.
Most don't wait until after the conference championship weekend. Uh.
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We'll have that for you here on fs ARE. Right now, though,
I hear to break down the college football playoff rankings
from top to bottom. The great Petros Papadakis, co host
of The Petros Show, college football analysts for Fox, always
kind enough to hang out with us here. Petro's your
thoughts on the new top I didn't see it, I know,
(15:38):
I did, I know you hate that. I know you
hate that conversation. So at the San Diego State is
in the top twenties, so way to go. Yeah, they're
highest rank Mountain West team and I think Utah cracked
at three, which looks good for Oregon since they're gonna
lose to him once. Yeah, listen, I think that covers it.
(15:59):
I think that's old p can you can you talk
to me a little bit about something guys I saw
on Twitter um in regards to it was in New Mexico.
You're calling one of their games again and they don't
apparently they've got a bad record when you're calling their games.
I mean this year, it's a valid point, like maybe
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you're not the problem, but they wouldn't blame you. I
don't know. I like it the New Mexico SID has
a sense of humor and that kind of stuff. I
think we could use more of, you know, have a
little joke we never win with this guy, something stupid
like that, because why not? We talked about what the
weather's like for every game, which announcer was on the
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game might as well be a topic. But a lot
of people kind of got the wrong idea, Like I
was like, but heard about something I I think. I'm
just I'm hoping a happy ending for you this time around.
You know, well, they're gonna go to Boise. I mean
they're playing on the blue turf, and Boise has been
playing pretty well lately. Mexico has got one win in
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the last two months, so I mean, I look, they've
switched to the triple option. My Lobos have. So you
know when you when you fired up Mob Davey and
then you're like, you know what, maybe maybe Bob was
onto something mid season. You know, maybe we're looking forward too.
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But in all honesty, uh, Danny Gonzalez is there has
done a really admirable job just getting football. I mean
they didn't they played last year when they wouldn't let
him in Albuquerque, they went and quarantined themselves in a
Vegas hotel. You ever been to that old Ritz Carlton
and Lake, Las Vegas. It sounds amazing. Though. I spoke
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to a Greek group there once, uh nows ago they
handed me a check. Other than that, I don't think
it went very well. Uh but tell us about what
you talked to them about. You don't remember was so
long and remember that you remember what was it up?
(18:13):
On the check. I do remember being at the airport
and a guy I went to high school with and
I absolutely hated, a guy named Randy Shaffer, just this
huge douche came up to me and tried to talk
to me at the airport, and I was like, get
away from Believe that I had the actual, like lack
(18:34):
of social graces to tell somebody from high school to
get away from me. This was a long time. Now,
why did you do? Why didn't you like it? What happened? Uh?
He asked me to to borrow an amplifier. Uh from that?
What was my brothers and they cars that had all
these stereos back in the day, and uh speaker, I
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don't know what it was, but he plugged in to
his car and it blew up his speakers and he
tried to get me to pay for the speakers. I
was like, I didn't want to give you the amplifier.
It's not my fault that exploded your car. No, he
would just proved himself over and over again to be
a terrible person. Hey, Pops, you guys on on a
different level, but but relevant to to the topics that
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we talked about. You guys just did the Thanksgiving dinner filming.
You're a part of it. You're always a part of it. Right. No,
Fred does not involved me. I've never been advised with
all the all C I F kids, because Fred knows
that if I was at the dinner, that he would
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not be the center of attention, and the young people
would gravitate towards me like the apostles to Jesus, and
he would be alone with his gravy boat in the
freaking thousand Oaks, Marriott or whatever he forsaken place. He
does that, and I have never been around that. I
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don't know what I thought you were at that that dinner.
I mean, are you are you up on the top
that He's not going to allow that attention. He needs
me to carry him like a forest carried Bubba out
of the jungle in Vietnam. He needs me to carry
him through the show every Sunday night. But when it
comes to crossing the River Jordan into the Promised Land
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and meeting the future stars of high school football in
America going on to college in the pros from this
wonderful rich soil of high school football talent cultivation Southern California,
when it comes to meeting with those kids, I am
left like Moses on the other side of the river.
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Jordan's unable to visit the promised land, unable to taste
the milk and honey, the arid ground of the NBC studios,
which uh my seed finds no purchase. I got two
names for you to Tario McMillan and Taro and and
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and uh Noah Fafita Okay, alright, both served by guys.
These are high school players here in town now they are.
And Fred Rogan, by the way, is a local uh
television but but by the way, these are nationally rated
and ranked stars. Four fast star guys coming out and
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and two of the finer ones coming out. What do
you think? I mean one seems to be hitting two Oregon.
One is definitely going to Arizona. What does that do
for teams like that, being able to bring in those
Do do they make any you know, recruiting? Yeah? Sure,
one guy is great, but one guy is one guy,
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and it feels like every team has one guy. You know.
The five star thing you bring up is interesting because
that the tetsaroa McMillan kid is a five star without
a doubt. Like if we're gonna put Yeah, I mean
he's a six star, you know. I mean, if that's
I think we should start doing that because five stars aren't.
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Like I just saw this kid, uh brock Heward's nephew
who's supposed to be a five star. And I'm sure
he's a very good quarterback. But have you seen him?
Sam hewart Brady at all? The Washington quarterback A little bit,
not much. He's a five star recruit, like Barkley was
a five star and J. T. Daniels was a five star.
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It's like, to me, that's not a five star. That's
a good quarterback. I mean, a five star is a
guy like Trevor Lawrence or I mean, or maybe guys
that don't pan out. You know, Uh, who was the
kid at Penn State Mettenburger? Yeah, yeah, there you go.
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The guy walks into the room and you go, oh
my god. You know, so it's the eye test because
you know, I know, no, it doesn't pass the eye test.
But he is he's not a five star. He's a
great player. He's a great, great player. He reminds me
of a guy like I said, whoa he reminds me
of to He reminds me of a new Solomon, a
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kid who also played at Arizona. Uh, I don't I
think two was a little bigger, isn't he? Uh? Not
much not They're they're probably they're kind of comparable. Ask
Brady Golf of them. I saw him. Oh yeah, how
was he? Was he happy? Was he happy? You know?
(23:43):
I mean you ain't happy, man, I don't even want
to answer that question. I just assuming he was happy
to see you. Like I's life like a beer commercial
where he's got like a light beer of course, where
he's got like a friend of every race, and then
like the moment the camera gets off the scene, it's
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just like somebody told the greatest joke ever on a rooftop.
All his friends on every race are laughing hysterically at
something Brady said the second the camera starts. And that's
what I imagine Brady a club like a slow motion
to a laughing Brady's white laughing truth be told. I
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was actually friend laughing. It's actually kind of ticked off
in a bad mood because I didn't have a driver.
I think no one cares, but yeah, I didn't have
a driver. Get over to the pro shop. I was,
Oh yeah, I was mad at the pro shop. But
the petrols you were mad at the pro shop. Well,
(24:50):
it's a long story. They people constantly so angry about
the state of the course. It's an angry sport the
way somebody did him dirty at the pro shop. The
shotguns people art pencil whipping you, I mean, there's I
don't even know what that means. Well, you play in
these events, and there's some people who play. When they play,
you know, these four some what they call it best
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ball right where everyone's like you take the best score
out of the group, you know, or a scramble where
you're taking the best shot. There's some people who they
go to these events and they just right in their score,
so they'll be like twenty under par and they haven't
even swing the club yet. That's called getting pencil whipped,
meaning they're just making up the score in the scorecards
so they can win. That happens all the time. Sounds
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like what we do for a living. Yeah, pretty much,
pretty much, Uh, Petros. When you see some of the
mo I was gonna ask you. We saw so Justin
Fante is out at Virginia Tech, and we've seen a
bunch of different a bunch of different coaches, and we've
(25:53):
seen we're seeing all these openings around college football, and
we're talking about this a little bit yesterday. How if
you're one of these rivals and you see, you know,
recruit knowing he's going to go someplace, but you're not
sure about well, you're not sure about where that coach
is going to be in a couple of years from now,
do you, Well, what is the reaction to players now
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and they see all the movement and coaches being fired
and let go as frequent as they are seemingly nowadays.
How much does that impact recruiting? And what have you
seen just from either talking to kids or being around
it for as long as you have, especially out here
in southern California, about how that impacts their decision. Well,
I think it does impact recruiting, but I think it
impacts it more than it should. I think what we're
(26:36):
saying this year is a lot of guys did not
get fired because of the pandemic year, and a lot
of people are like, Okay, let's catch up on our firing,
and they're getting rid of people at a clip. I mean,
some of it is just stupid, like the USC firing
of Clay Helton, which literally could have been done four
(26:57):
years ago for the same reasons. And he said like, well,
we were going to evaluate him after two games and
then figure it's like, you know, you weren't what But
it's become kind of an arms race as far as well,
we fired our guy first, and we got our feelers
out there in the beyond the news agent world of
who actually is interested in, who they can actually negotiate with,
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And to me, that looks like Luke Fickle. But to
answer your question, Uh, I think kids care way too
much about who's coaching at a place that's uh recruiting.
That's the nature of the whole thing. And it's become
a lot of like the kid that LaVar is talking about, Fifita,
I'm I'm I don't know if he has a deal
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in Arizona or not, but he might be close to it,
you know, if he's a five star guy. Yeah, but
but a deal like hey, you're gonna start you know
that kind of thing, you know, you know so uh
so that that stuff, you know, happens with coaches. But
I remember a kid I knew as a quarterback. Now
he coaches with Kingsbury in Arizona and he played quarterback
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at Arizona State. His name was Michael Berkovici's pretty yeah,
burk Oh good guy, and uh, I've known him since
he was ten. You know, you're fabulous kid. And uh.
He was on a recruiting trip to u c l A.
And Norm Chow was his Uh was recruiting him and
(28:27):
Norm Chow was the offensive coordinator there at the time,
if you remember, and uh, I think it was under
new Heisel. And he said, hey, coach, I want to
come to u c l A. I want to come
and you know, play for you. And Chow laughed like, oh,
you know. Norm's problem was he was always way too
on it and he normally, if you go, you better
(28:49):
go to a compass because you like the trees or
the girls. Don't ever go because you like a coach.
Your man, What is wrong with you today? He said?
He said, because like trees and girls, because you like
the trees. And no, that's the way you said it.
(29:12):
Now you want you want me to tell you, you
know why us she gotta became a failure to why
big Carol oh man um petros quickly when I ask
you one more thing? We were talking about the Petro says, coach,
you know who the worst guy ever is, Big Carol.
(29:37):
It doesn't seem like there's a lot of buzz for
the Heisman this year. It seems like it's kind of
wide open. Even that's because I don't have a photo.
But like, just because the guy does a few Mountain
West games as the media, just because the guy reads
comics doesn't mean he can kick kicks at who's called
more Carson Strong games than you? For god sakes, No,
but it's some freaking free Why do you think there's
(30:01):
not as big of a buzz about it? Like it's
just just no one's differentiating themselves. It's a stupid award.
It's a great award, and we all love the Heisman Trophy,
but the truth is it's so some some are still
trying to get it back. It's so free, free, red
free five. It's starting to get to be a bad
(30:23):
look in the bush. But it's uh, it's kind of
become a thing to where look it used to be.
The media guided us and told us who the five
guys were. Right now there's so much media and we
can't like it's drinking through a fire hose. There's so
(30:44):
much media. There's so many people that have us say
or feel like they have a say, and I think
it just gets lost in the wash. There's there's too much.
It's one of those things where there's just too much information,
and I think it's kind of killed the whole season
long Heisman narrative, if you will, and the show sucks.
(31:06):
I mean, the thing they do at the end of
the year has become the most awkward, long, painful death
march of a show. And it just you know, and
you get to see these old, beaten, drunken players, you know,
behind them, and you're just like, oh, God, bless him
(31:26):
as always there. I love Gino? How did I not win? Heisman? Man?
You should see Gino back there. It looks like it's
like when Pat Hill used to come to people's house
to uh to recruit, you know that people be like, yeah,
the leaks in the back, but no, no, I'm Pat Hill.
(31:48):
That's what geos like when he goes nobody nobody is
safe at the old people. You know what, nobody's saved him.
Peak Carol. I stole that from Isaac Low and he
(32:08):
always would come with the peak Carroll. I did the
chow invitation too, but he we used to do the
peak Carroll, he will be on the call to Mexico
Boys State FS one. What about Friday night. Yeah, that's
why he's got a big slight. This week we got
we got Nevada Air Force dog strong baby knows versus
the triple option mad it better be called NFL T
(32:33):
has better be calling you for his evaluation. You've watched
the more than anyone. I'll tell you about the opposite
opposite hash deep out man. Look at that. Someone told
me he's got a spaghetti nie like he's got a
bad well, I might say fete cheenie. Maybe a little thicker.
He's a little thicker than he's okay, but still still
(32:54):
pasta though Marchie three got drafted. Yeah, I think that
the injury was after that it was patros Let's do
it again next week. We'll be lost this weekend. Good
luck on the uh you never you never quite now
where the conversation is gonna go. But that was a
(33:16):
hell of a Norm Chower impression, that big Carol love
Arthrews that set down and ran from the mike when
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find out what the hell we've missed so far on
the show Lee, You guys, it's the end of an era.
After twenty two years, the home of the Lakers, Clippers, Kings,
and Sparks is changing the name from Staples Center to
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Crypto dot Com Arena. They sold the rights for over
seven million dollars. It's gonna be taking place when the
Lakers take on the nets on Christmas Day. I know
somebody who has cryptocurrency is like, wow, wait a second,
So this is getting down Christmas Day? Correct? So they
don't have the naming rights deal through the end of
the year. They just can like switch it out whenever
(35:28):
because they paid whatever something they paid. And that's how
this that's how it works. You have naming rights for
a certain period of time and and once those are
up that someone has the next chance to bid on them.
So then we will have the rights for the next
twenty years. Jesus man, that's how you make money. Man,
you don't want to have it for the you know, exponentially.
I understand, but I don't listen. I don't. I don't
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play that game. You mean, you know, you know we're
Washington plays the football team RFK. You know that, don't. Okay,
Well that Robbie Robbie Joe. Robbie's where they do. It's
actually the hard Rock. It's really nice. You should go there. Well,
I can't say it out about FedEx if it ain't
it's called fed x RFK. I'll see what you're doing.
(36:13):
I get what you're doing. Like people can still call
the Staples Center or whatever, even though it's got a
new name. It's it's kind of like Mile High, Like
I don't care whatever you call Mile It's still my Hi.
It's always it was investing it was I don't even
know what it is now. It doesn't matter. It always
be Maha and I'm a part of the Mauhi club.
(36:36):
I won. Yeah, I won there, Yeah, I won there. Okay,
thank you my team one there one year. Thank you.
Mah yeah. I thought you were going a different drenction
that that club to peanuts and a drink about. I
got that. I got that club. I got that club.
Box chut good? All right? All right? What else you
(37:00):
have the opportunity to own a piece of history. Triple
crown winner Secretariat, the winner of luck of his Hair
is up for auction. It's going for north of ten
thou dollars. How long has Secretary have been dead for? Sin? Okay,
here's my question. Who could take the DNA off that
(37:22):
hair and then find a way of like cloning and
creating that whole? Yeah? Well that that would be the
play if you had the science technology that that horse,
after it died, it was revealed had a heart the
size of a buick, like it was like abnormal heart.
That's why it was able to run. I had a coach.
I had a coach that talked about Secretariat and speech
(37:42):
saying it was the greatest athlete of all time. And
he goes, if you include horses, And I remember thinking
that was some of the funniest crap I've ever heard.
Who wants hair from a corpse? From the You're making
a lot of money that big stud fees there, if
you my God, but this song stays. Give me my
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on fs are. It has been a wild and wacky
show thus far, a lot of lots of interesting stories,
everything from shrunken skulls, too foot long subs to you
name it. Just very very bizarre show thus far. And
h and whatever island boys are. I have no idea.
I didn't even know what that means. But Roberto and Brady,
(01:25):
especially the name of the song, I don't think that's
actually who those Well, the song sucks for what it's
not good. I thought it was amazing. Boy, it's very catchy,
and it's funny because Jonas is the one who selected
itself Smoking on my island tree. I'm so tired of
this every time. This is all the shoot first mentality.
(01:50):
You get knocks locks, you know that. I'm just so fat.
It's a terrible song. Um and for whatever reason, and
so Laskinen led to some really good fix man all right,
speaking of I have no legs. I have no legs
(02:16):
from me? That all right? So from eating there, So
we have got We've got we got an NFL m
v P odds. We've got college football Heisman odds. Who
what which one do you want? First dealer's choice, Brady Quinn,
which odds. Would you like to hear first? And I
(02:37):
want to get your thoughts on some of these little
bar on the where we're standing right now, let's go
v alright, So m v P odds right now, Josh
Allen is your favorite. This according to Fox Bet, Josh
Allen is the favorite to win m v P, followed
by Yeah, followed by Tom Brady, then Dak Prescott, then
Matt Stafford. As they continue to try and shoehorn in
(02:58):
Matthew Stafford into everybody's lives here because he's now remember
the l A Rams I mean, I'm telling you he's
thrown away the m v P race Stafford too many
interceptions and and it's sad because a lot of those
are drops and also and also those are on standalone
games story you're seeing him play bad football, big time,
(03:20):
and he did that twice to two times in a row.
Josh Allen, though Brady the I don't think he looks
nearly as good as he did last year. And yet
he's sitting here going into week eleven plus two fifty
or the odds, so he's a little over two to
one favorite to win the NFL m v P. And
I'm looking around going. I don't know that you can
(03:43):
give it to Brady Um Dak Prescott missed time, keep going,
come on, come Rodgers time, Murray missed that. But you
can't base Kyler or Aaron Rodgers off of a miss
game or two. I don't think, well, I think that's
hold on, No, no, no, that doesn't that that we've
we've had former at the m VPS miss a game
or two. Aaron Rodgers won't win it because the media
(04:04):
doesn't want him, but he should he WoT he should be.
Wouldn't it be great? Idol? Talent supersedes personal agendas for certain,
that would be fantastic. We Um, he's you know, he's
played phenomenous year. It's your point. You know Josh Allen
(04:26):
hasn't played as well as he did last year. That's
where he could be a victim of of his own circumstances,
meaning like he played so well last year that when
you don't get back that kind of similar to Mahomes.
Once he threw fifty touchdown passes in a regular season,
people are like, well, if you don't do that again,
like why should you get m v P. It's like, wait, what,
how does that make sense? Um? But that's where we're at.
(04:49):
Like when you look at every one of these names,
like I think Tom Brady, with what he's doing at
his age, probably should get it. It's ridiculous what he's doing.
He's had a bad two game skid. I think five
turnovers the past couple of games. I can't win it
with that. But he's forty two. He's doing this right,
I mean, it's ridiculous. Stafford is the guy that based
on the odds right now because of how they've looked,
(05:12):
which ironically too, by the way, did you do at
this point in the season last ye week for also seventh?
So Jared goff should have been up for league MVP.
It's just impossible. That's the true records got. Stafford's got
eight more touchdown passes than goffed at this point, and
he's leading the league in yards. But but it's it's
(05:32):
impossible that I just I refused to believe it because
they got rid of Jared goffs. I just assumed everything
was going to be fine, by the way, according you think,
according to Brady Quinn, the best part about Jared Goff
is that his first name is not Jack. Never something
you're the one to his dad's name. I digress, I
I digress. Um, you know, Batch, people don't be catching
(05:58):
what job he's saying Pastrick Mahomes, though, what is he
seven team to one right now? Is that right? I
mean I would sprink a little bit on it. If
you could just continue to put up like the four
yard five touchdown performances, it's hard to kind of keep
him out of it, especially if they win their division.
But I don't know, it really is up for grabs,
(06:19):
probably this year more so than any other. I mean,
I think Dak's squarely in the mix. Like you could
make the case that this week's matchup between the Chiefs
and the Cowboys, whoever comes out on top, is probably
in the lead, Like he's probably gonna be the front runner.
I would, And I just I look at it and
I go, well, he's he missed time, Dac missed times,
so that maybe they'll hold that against him, um, just
(06:40):
based on all the other guys. But then you go
and you look around and it's like, all right, well,
all these guys are flawed. I mean, Brady's had a
couple of bad performances. Josh Allen doesn't look as good
as he did last year. For whatever that's worth. That
gets in people's minds. But Dak Prescott for me would
be the m v P. And we talked a week
ago Lamar Jackson. I said, you know, Lamar Action would
be the most Valuable Player, but I don't. He's all
(07:03):
the way down the list. He's fourteen to one. So
I do because it looks like he got exposed on Thursday.
When you play these prime time stand alone games, it's
either gonna boost it or hurt it one way or another.
But I feel like the media really is pushing for
Stafford to win it. Like I really feel like they
don't want to give it to someone who's wonted before.
It just not justifiable yet I can how can you
(07:27):
just I get that, But that's what they do. Like
they they'll they'll figure out a way of justify I mean,
he's leading the league of yards right now, he's got
what twenty four touchdowns, the eight interceptions. I mean, they'll
find a way of justifying it. But like from the
from the jump, you got the feeling that that's the
narrative the l A market and really the national media
wanted to portray, especially if this team looks like they're
(07:49):
in a position to go on to win a Super Bowl. Okay,
let me ask you this. You can't take Josh Allen,
who's the favorite of plus two fifty? Again? This courtesy
a fox bet. Um, you degenerates might have something else
you're looking at, could you know, finagle the numbers a
little bit? But according to Fox bet, Josh Allen is
the favorite of plus two fifty. You can't pick the favorite.
You gotta pick one other guy that you legitimately think
has got a chance, which is Aaron Rodgers. Okay, yeah,
(08:13):
sitting he's gonna media is not gonna lie. I mean
LaVar like listen, I mean, you just want to cause
problems for a Roger. I hate to do it. I mean,
he caused his own problems. He didn't need my help.
But I'm just saying I need none of my help.
I'm gonna say Dak Prescott, Yeah, I think because I
think he's a feel good story. I talked to an
(08:34):
m v P voter and I asked, I said, he's
a shoeing for Comeback Player of the Year. So I said,
because he's gonna win that, do you say, Well, I
don't want to vote for him for the m v
P two and he said, no, he goes I'm gonna
vote for him for both and the way he's playing
right now things continue on. I said, Okay, that's interesting,
but I'm gonna I'm gonna say Dak Prescott because he
(08:54):
also has a bit more favorable odds as far as
plus odds right now. Yeah. Um, by the way, that
that is weird that and I can understand why you
ask the question if you wouldn't come back Player of
the Year, you can't win the other one. It's it's
something you can't. It's just I think people want to
like spread out and that's weird and that that's weird,
Like like he's the comeback Player of the Year in
the m v P that should be fine. It's like
(09:15):
you want Best Picture, you can't win Best Director as
well too. Why that's because you're you're all into the Hollywood.
You know, you're a so you have you have a
hard time understanding the real people out here and these
flyover states as you call it. I don't know why
I have to be attacked here on the air. If
you'd like to get Brady on Twitter at Charles Manson
is where you could find By the way, let's let's
(09:35):
move on to the Heisman Trophy. I have no idea
what the hell is gonna happen to the Heisman Trophy.
And I also don't know that that people are even
talking about it that much. Like it feels like it's
it's not even a major interest that the college football
playoffs the storyline, and there's other coaches being fired, name, image, likeness,
all the other things that are happening in college football. Meanwhile,
(09:55):
the Heisman Trophy is gonna be handed out. And what
a few weeks, three weeks, four, we I mean, what
are we looking at here? And we're sitting with According
to a Fox bet, Bryce Young, uh two to one
is the favorite right now to win the Heisman Trophy.
He should be listen if you would listen to Brady
Quinn after the spring game. He tried to tell you
(10:15):
at ten to one, you could have gotten Bryce Young
at ten to one. Yes, he watched the spring game, folks.
At ten to one, Brady, you try to tell everybody
this is gonna be the guy. Yeah, it's kind of
like watching mac football. You know, you just have to
be invest in to watch the game. Um. But but
back to Bryce young. I I every single week I
watched him and because he's he's just special. That's the
(10:36):
only way of putting it. It's one of those things
where you see enough quarterback play and you see someone
who just does the things that he does. He's special.
He should win it. And I said it before and
I'll stand by it, like he should win two during
his time at Alabama. Now that might be a little
bit more dependent upon what's around him, but he's just
a special player. But they're not the number one team.
(10:59):
They're the number two team right now in the country.
And you know, the voting is pretty much wrapped up
and done, which this has been a controversy in the past,
is that a lot of the voters will just decide
who they want to vote for even before the championship weekend,
which I know frustrates a lot of like former Heisman winners.
We've talked about that with them, and it's kind of
(11:20):
his like throws mud in the face of the process.
But a lot of them will cast their vote early
because they don't want to let that one last game
necessarily determine the entire body of work. But that's where
I wonder if depending on this year because they're really
outside of Bryce Young hasn't been like a consistent guy
at the top. I wonder if people are gonna wait
(11:42):
and if they end up losing to Georgia, if that
will ultimately be the difference between him winning and losing
the Heisman, because he should win it. I mean, you
could put up guys like Kenneth Walker Michigan State. He's
been fantastic, Kenny Pickett might be the most valuable to
his team. Uh, you know, but the part proj strouded C.
Stroud's not even the fifth best player on his team
and he's sitting with the second best dodge right now,
(12:04):
which is which is It's absurd to me because I
think that's more of just the betting markets trying to
get you to put money on someone because he's a
part of a big brand State, right Like if Garrett
Wilson is their best wide receiver, Christo lave is behind him,
Jackson Smith and Jigba is there that you could you
(12:24):
could name one of their tackles on their offensive line,
Trevion Henderson, Like all those guys are actually better players
and are like more talented. But Stroud's got the stats
and so that's where the people are trying to make
an argument for him. I just don't see it, like
I don't. I don't think it's even close to when
you watch his tape versus what Bryce Young is doing
(12:44):
out there at Alba LaVar, your guy, Matt Kroll plus
seven fifty you can and you coached him right, yes,
help help mentor him and guide him when he was
at Long Beach Police. So great, great young man, fierce competitor.
I chilly think he's the best quarterback going into the
draft this year, if if I were to take a
stab at it, so I think he's been, in my opinion,
(13:08):
outside of Caleb Williams and Bryce Young, I think he's
been the most valuable player to to his team in
terms of at that position, which we know that they
wait the position by you know, or they they rate
importance by how important the position is. So you know,
those are two I would look at and I would say,
you got to take a good heart long look at.
(13:29):
But no doubt about it that Bryce Young has been
lights out. He's been amazing. Um and yeah, I mean,
but outside of him, I would also I would ultimately
say Matt Carroll or or you know, Caleb took that
tough loss this past weekend, but you know all had losses.
Here's the one thing to pay attention to, though. Watch
(13:49):
if these odds shift dramatically, it's because somebody has talked
to enough voters or they've gotten a peek at somebody's
votes and gone, oh, that's where they're gonna go. Because
that's what That's what happened with Baker Mayfield. It's what
happened with Kyler Murray. All of a sudden one weekend,
he came in on a Monday, and the odds completely
shifted because either somebody put their votes in ear Leading
to what Brady said, it's it's two weeks to two
(14:10):
weeks and ended right in the season. Most voters will
basically most most ballots will be done by by the end.
By these next two weeks, yeah, most of them will be.
Most don't wait until after the conference championship weekend. Uh.
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We'll have that for you here on fs ARE. Right now, though,
I hear to break down the college football playoff rankings
from top to bottom. The great Petros Papadakis, co host
of The Petros Show, college football analysts for Fox, always
kind enough to hang out with us here. Petro's your
thoughts on the new top I didn't see it, I know,
(15:38):
I did, I know you hate that. I know you
hate that conversation. So at the San Diego State is
in the top twenties, so way to go. Yeah, they're
highest rank Mountain West team and I think Utah cracked
at three, which looks good for Oregon since they're gonna
lose to him once. Yeah, listen, I think that covers it.
(15:59):
I think that's old p can you can you talk
to me a little bit about something guys I saw
on Twitter um in regards to it was in New Mexico.
You're calling one of their games again and they don't
apparently they've got a bad record when you're calling their games.
I mean this year, it's a valid point, like maybe
(16:19):
you're not the problem, but they wouldn't blame you. I
don't know. I like it the New Mexico SID has
a sense of humor and that kind of stuff. I
think we could use more of, you know, have a
little joke we never win with this guy, something stupid
like that, because why not? We talked about what the
weather's like for every game, which announcer was on the
(16:40):
game might as well be a topic. But a lot
of people kind of got the wrong idea, Like I
was like, but heard about something I I think. I'm
just I'm hoping a happy ending for you this time around.
You know, well, they're gonna go to Boise. I mean
they're playing on the blue turf, and Boise has been
playing pretty well lately. Mexico has got one win in
(17:01):
the last two months, so I mean, I look, they've
switched to the triple option. My Lobos have. So you
know when you when you fired up Mob Davey and
then you're like, you know what, maybe maybe Bob was
onto something mid season. You know, maybe we're looking forward too.
(17:24):
But in all honesty, uh, Danny Gonzalez is there has
done a really admirable job just getting football. I mean
they didn't they played last year when they wouldn't let
him in Albuquerque, they went and quarantined themselves in a
Vegas hotel. You ever been to that old Ritz Carlton
and Lake, Las Vegas. It sounds amazing. Though. I spoke
(17:49):
to a Greek group there once, uh nows ago they
handed me a check. Other than that, I don't think
it went very well. Uh but tell us about what
you talked to them about. You don't remember was so
long and remember that you remember what was it up?
(18:13):
On the check. I do remember being at the airport
and a guy I went to high school with and
I absolutely hated, a guy named Randy Shaffer, just this
huge douche came up to me and tried to talk
to me at the airport, and I was like, get
away from Believe that I had the actual, like lack
(18:34):
of social graces to tell somebody from high school to
get away from me. This was a long time. Now,
why did you do? Why didn't you like it? What happened? Uh?
He asked me to to borrow an amplifier. Uh from that?
What was my brothers and they cars that had all
these stereos back in the day, and uh speaker, I
(18:57):
don't know what it was, but he plugged in to
his car and it blew up his speakers and he
tried to get me to pay for the speakers. I
was like, I didn't want to give you the amplifier.
It's not my fault that exploded your car. No, he
would just proved himself over and over again to be
a terrible person. Hey, Pops, you guys on on a
different level, but but relevant to to the topics that
(19:19):
we talked about. You guys just did the Thanksgiving dinner filming.
You're a part of it. You're always a part of it. Right. No,
Fred does not involved me. I've never been advised with
all the all C I F kids, because Fred knows
that if I was at the dinner, that he would
(19:41):
not be the center of attention, and the young people
would gravitate towards me like the apostles to Jesus, and
he would be alone with his gravy boat in the
freaking thousand Oaks, Marriott or whatever he forsaken place. He
does that, and I have never been around that. I
(20:04):
don't know what I thought you were at that that dinner.
I mean, are you are you up on the top
that He's not going to allow that attention. He needs
me to carry him like a forest carried Bubba out
of the jungle in Vietnam. He needs me to carry
him through the show every Sunday night. But when it
comes to crossing the River Jordan into the Promised Land
(20:27):
and meeting the future stars of high school football in
America going on to college in the pros from this
wonderful rich soil of high school football talent cultivation Southern California,
when it comes to meeting with those kids, I am
left like Moses on the other side of the river.
(20:48):
Jordan's unable to visit the promised land, unable to taste
the milk and honey, the arid ground of the NBC studios,
which uh my seed finds no purchase. I got two
names for you to Tario McMillan and Taro and and
(21:09):
and uh Noah Fafita Okay, alright, both served by guys.
These are high school players here in town now they are.
And Fred Rogan, by the way, is a local uh
television but but by the way, these are nationally rated
and ranked stars. Four fast star guys coming out and
(21:33):
and two of the finer ones coming out. What do
you think? I mean one seems to be hitting two Oregon.
One is definitely going to Arizona. What does that do
for teams like that, being able to bring in those
Do do they make any you know, recruiting? Yeah? Sure,
one guy is great, but one guy is one guy,
(21:56):
and it feels like every team has one guy. You know.
The five star thing you bring up is interesting because
that the tetsaroa McMillan kid is a five star without
a doubt. Like if we're gonna put Yeah, I mean
he's a six star, you know. I mean, if that's
I think we should start doing that because five stars aren't.
(22:17):
Like I just saw this kid, uh brock Heward's nephew
who's supposed to be a five star. And I'm sure
he's a very good quarterback. But have you seen him?
Sam hewart Brady at all? The Washington quarterback A little bit,
not much. He's a five star recruit, like Barkley was
a five star and J. T. Daniels was a five star.
(22:39):
It's like, to me, that's not a five star. That's
a good quarterback. I mean, a five star is a
guy like Trevor Lawrence or I mean, or maybe guys
that don't pan out. You know, Uh, who was the
kid at Penn State Mettenburger? Yeah, yeah, there you go.
(23:00):
The guy walks into the room and you go, oh
my god. You know, so it's the eye test because
you know, I know, no, it doesn't pass the eye test.
But he is he's not a five star. He's a
great player. He's a great, great player. He reminds me
of a guy like I said, whoa he reminds me
of to He reminds me of a new Solomon, a
(23:20):
kid who also played at Arizona. Uh, I don't I
think two was a little bigger, isn't he? Uh? Not
much not They're they're probably they're kind of comparable. Ask
Brady Golf of them. I saw him. Oh yeah, how
was he? Was he happy? Was he happy? You know?
(23:43):
I mean you ain't happy, man, I don't even want
to answer that question. I just assuming he was happy
to see you. Like I's life like a beer commercial
where he's got like a light beer of course, where
he's got like a friend of every race, and then
like the moment the camera gets off the scene, it's
(24:07):
just like somebody told the greatest joke ever on a rooftop.
All his friends on every race are laughing hysterically at
something Brady said the second the camera starts. And that's
what I imagine Brady a club like a slow motion
to a laughing Brady's white laughing truth be told. I
(24:28):
was actually friend laughing. It's actually kind of ticked off
in a bad mood because I didn't have a driver.
I think no one cares, but yeah, I didn't have
a driver. Get over to the pro shop. I was,
Oh yeah, I was mad at the pro shop. But
the petrols you were mad at the pro shop. Well,
(24:50):
it's a long story. They people constantly so angry about
the state of the course. It's an angry sport the
way somebody did him dirty at the pro shop. The
shotguns people art pencil whipping you, I mean, there's I
don't even know what that means. Well, you play in
these events, and there's some people who play. When they play,
you know, these four some what they call it best
(25:12):
ball right where everyone's like you take the best score
out of the group, you know, or a scramble where
you're taking the best shot. There's some people who they
go to these events and they just right in their score,
so they'll be like twenty under par and they haven't
even swing the club yet. That's called getting pencil whipped,
meaning they're just making up the score in the scorecards
so they can win. That happens all the time. Sounds
(25:33):
like what we do for a living. Yeah, pretty much,
pretty much, Uh, Petros. When you see some of the
mo I was gonna ask you. We saw so Justin
Fante is out at Virginia Tech, and we've seen a
bunch of different a bunch of different coaches, and we've
(25:53):
seen we're seeing all these openings around college football, and
we're talking about this a little bit yesterday. How if
you're one of these rivals and you see, you know,
recruit knowing he's going to go someplace, but you're not
sure about well, you're not sure about where that coach
is going to be in a couple of years from now,
do you, Well, what is the reaction to players now
(26:14):
and they see all the movement and coaches being fired
and let go as frequent as they are seemingly nowadays.
How much does that impact recruiting? And what have you
seen just from either talking to kids or being around
it for as long as you have, especially out here
in southern California, about how that impacts their decision. Well,
I think it does impact recruiting, but I think it
impacts it more than it should. I think what we're
(26:36):
saying this year is a lot of guys did not
get fired because of the pandemic year, and a lot
of people are like, Okay, let's catch up on our firing,
and they're getting rid of people at a clip. I mean,
some of it is just stupid, like the USC firing
of Clay Helton, which literally could have been done four
(26:57):
years ago for the same reasons. And he said like, well,
we were going to evaluate him after two games and
then figure it's like, you know, you weren't what But
it's become kind of an arms race as far as well,
we fired our guy first, and we got our feelers
out there in the beyond the news agent world of
who actually is interested in, who they can actually negotiate with,
(27:20):
And to me, that looks like Luke Fickle. But to
answer your question, Uh, I think kids care way too
much about who's coaching at a place that's uh recruiting.
That's the nature of the whole thing. And it's become
a lot of like the kid that LaVar is talking about, Fifita,
I'm I'm I don't know if he has a deal
(27:40):
in Arizona or not, but he might be close to it,
you know, if he's a five star guy. Yeah, but
but a deal like hey, you're gonna start you know
that kind of thing, you know, you know so uh
so that that stuff, you know, happens with coaches. But
I remember a kid I knew as a quarterback. Now
he coaches with Kingsbury in Arizona and he played quarterback
(28:04):
at Arizona State. His name was Michael Berkovici's pretty yeah,
burk Oh good guy, and uh, I've known him since
he was ten. You know, you're fabulous kid. And uh.
He was on a recruiting trip to u c l A.
And Norm Chow was his Uh was recruiting him and
(28:27):
Norm Chow was the offensive coordinator there at the time,
if you remember, and uh, I think it was under
new Heisel. And he said, hey, coach, I want to
come to u c l A. I want to come
and you know, play for you. And Chow laughed like, oh,
you know. Norm's problem was he was always way too
on it and he normally, if you go, you better
(28:49):
go to a compass because you like the trees or
the girls. Don't ever go because you like a coach.
Your man, What is wrong with you today? He said?
He said, because like trees and girls, because you like
the trees. And no, that's the way you said it.
(29:12):
Now you want you want me to tell you, you
know why us she gotta became a failure to why
big Carol oh man um petros quickly when I ask
you one more thing? We were talking about the Petro says, coach,
you know who the worst guy ever is, Big Carol.
(29:37):
It doesn't seem like there's a lot of buzz for
the Heisman this year. It seems like it's kind of
wide open. Even that's because I don't have a photo.
But like, just because the guy does a few Mountain
West games as the media, just because the guy reads
comics doesn't mean he can kick kicks at who's called
more Carson Strong games than you? For god sakes, No,
but it's some freaking free Why do you think there's
(30:01):
not as big of a buzz about it? Like it's
just just no one's differentiating themselves. It's a stupid award.
It's a great award, and we all love the Heisman Trophy,
but the truth is it's so some some are still
trying to get it back. It's so free, free, red
free five. It's starting to get to be a bad
(30:23):
look in the bush. But it's uh, it's kind of
become a thing to where look it used to be.
The media guided us and told us who the five
guys were. Right now there's so much media and we
can't like it's drinking through a fire hose. There's so
(30:44):
much media. There's so many people that have us say
or feel like they have a say, and I think
it just gets lost in the wash. There's there's too much.
It's one of those things where there's just too much information,
and I think it's kind of killed the whole season
long Heisman narrative, if you will, and the show sucks.
(31:06):
I mean, the thing they do at the end of
the year has become the most awkward, long, painful death
march of a show. And it just you know, and
you get to see these old, beaten, drunken players, you know,
behind them, and you're just like, oh, God, bless him
(31:26):
as always there. I love Gino? How did I not win? Heisman? Man?
You should see Gino back there. It looks like it's
like when Pat Hill used to come to people's house
to uh to recruit, you know that people be like, yeah,
the leaks in the back, but no, no, I'm Pat Hill.
(31:48):
That's what geos like when he goes nobody nobody is
safe at the old people. You know what, nobody's saved him.
Peak Carol. I stole that from Isaac Low and he
(32:08):
always would come with the peak Carroll. I did the
chow invitation too, but he we used to do the
peak Carroll, he will be on the call to Mexico
Boys State FS one. What about Friday night. Yeah, that's
why he's got a big slight. This week we got
we got Nevada Air Force dog strong baby knows versus
the triple option mad it better be called NFL T
(32:33):
has better be calling you for his evaluation. You've watched
the more than anyone. I'll tell you about the opposite
opposite hash deep out man. Look at that. Someone told
me he's got a spaghetti nie like he's got a
bad well, I might say fete cheenie. Maybe a little thicker.
He's a little thicker than he's okay, but still still
(32:54):
pasta though Marchie three got drafted. Yeah, I think that
the injury was after that it was patros Let's do
it again next week. We'll be lost this weekend. Good
luck on the uh you never you never quite now
where the conversation is gonna go. But that was a
(33:16):
hell of a Norm Chower impression, that big Carol love
Arthrews that set down and ran from the mike when
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the show Lee, You guys, it's the end of an era.
After twenty two years, the home of the Lakers, Clippers, Kings,
and Sparks is changing the name from Staples Center to
(35:06):
Crypto dot Com Arena. They sold the rights for over
seven million dollars. It's gonna be taking place when the
Lakers take on the nets on Christmas Day. I know
somebody who has cryptocurrency is like, wow, wait a second,
So this is getting down Christmas Day? Correct? So they
don't have the naming rights deal through the end of
the year. They just can like switch it out whenever
(35:28):
because they paid whatever something they paid. And that's how
this that's how it works. You have naming rights for
a certain period of time and and once those are
up that someone has the next chance to bid on them.
So then we will have the rights for the next
twenty years. Jesus man, that's how you make money. Man,
you don't want to have it for the you know, exponentially.
I understand, but I don't listen. I don't. I don't
(35:50):
play that game. You mean, you know, you know we're
Washington plays the football team RFK. You know that, don't. Okay,
Well that Robbie Robbie Joe. Robbie's where they do. It's
actually the hard Rock. It's really nice. You should go there. Well,
I can't say it out about FedEx if it ain't
it's called fed x RFK. I'll see what you're doing.
(36:13):
I get what you're doing. Like people can still call
the Staples Center or whatever, even though it's got a
new name. It's it's kind of like Mile High, Like
I don't care whatever you call Mile It's still my Hi.
It's always it was investing it was I don't even
know what it is now. It doesn't matter. It always
be Maha and I'm a part of the Mauhi club.
(36:36):
I won. Yeah, I won there, Yeah, I won there. Okay,
thank you my team one there one year. Thank you.
Mah yeah. I thought you were going a different drenction
that that club to peanuts and a drink about. I
got that. I got that club. I got that club.
Box chut good? All right? All right? What else you
(37:00):
have the opportunity to own a piece of history. Triple
crown winner Secretariat, the winner of luck of his Hair
is up for auction. It's going for north of ten
thou dollars. How long has Secretary have been dead for? Sin? Okay,
here's my question. Who could take the DNA off that
(37:22):
hair and then find a way of like cloning and
creating that whole? Yeah? Well that that would be the
play if you had the science technology that that horse,
after it died, it was revealed had a heart the
size of a buick, like it was like abnormal heart.
That's why it was able to run. I had a coach.
I had a coach that talked about Secretariat and speech
(37:42):
saying it was the greatest athlete of all time. And
he goes, if you include horses, And I remember thinking
that was some of the funniest crap I've ever heard.
Who wants hair from a corpse? From the You're making
a lot of money that big stud fees there, if
you my God, but this song stays. Give me my
(38:07):
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