December 10, 2021 • 35 mins
Jonas , Brady and LaVar recap the Steelers loss to the Vikings on TNF. They debate who's better between Tua Tagovailoa and Taysom Hill. Dr. David Chao provides injury updates before the weekend and Brady shares stories about blowtorches, spiders and The Island Boys.
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Sports Radio. So we got a couple of situations going
on in the NFL. We've got a quarterback comp that
doesn't make any sense. We got a coach that might
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be tired of one of the players on his roster,
and we will get into all of that here coming
up momentarily here on Fox Sports Radio, Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe. Here on fs are we got
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocked you the here. We're
gonna take you all the way up until nine am
Eastern times six o'clock. And that's mature. They're from cake
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eater himself. We're gonna have man baby on a football Friday.
Is Brady like to point out every single Friday for
some reason. I mean, I don't know why. It's just
like his thing. Hey, can I ask you got something?
Gets made fun of a lot? Yeah? You know, have
you ever had Cafe d Oila? So you are you
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guys up on Cafe d Oila. It's a Mexican style
of of doing your coffee. I was hoping I put
burto up on it of it. My wife is though,
she loves that thing. Oh you use one of those those?
Uh you you cook it and like it's like cinnamon
and oh my gosh, bro it is. I may one
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this morning and it's not as good as like the
good ones? Did you did you make one in that
cafe that you did? You're out right now? I did
just turned that. I mean, you know they've welcomed me
in here with open arms. But you know you'll be
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coming next not Jonas, not so much. But you're probably
keeping her. You'll probably get a call to come hang out,
you know. I mean, they'll set you up. And I
love getting picked on every morning, but you two juice heads,
that's always a good time here. It's I don't know why,
why don't gonna be picked on? I can't be invited
to have a gayl's birthday cake and some cafe blah
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blah blah whatever. You know, I'm sure if Gail saw you,
she give you all her birthday cake like she lets
you have it, you know, sure, that's sure, it's picing
and all. You know, people in the office, now, maybe
we should keep it down, yere, my room is soundproof. Yeah,
well let's keep it up. Then. I thought it was
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pretty interesting that soundproof. You know. Yeah, great culture around here. Man,
I'll tell you what realized the man. No reason for
the sound to carry into everybody else's business, you know
what I mean? Can I Brady? You're Brady, You're the
you're the notre dame representative here. Um, what do you
make a Chase Claypool's uh, you know, early going in
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the NFL and what went down last night. Mike Tomlin
seems like he's a bit frustrated. He was celebrating the
first down with thirty six seconds left. I mean, not
the best football awareness. But he got benched early in
the game because he got a taunting penalty like a
minute and a half in, and Mike Tomlin admitted, yeah,
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I benched him, you know, the rest of the quarter
or whatever it was because of the taunting penalty. And
then he signals first down in a two minute drill
and eats up a bunch of clock that they needed
towards the end of that game. Okay, it was like
I just played painted the scenario. It wasn't two minutes,
it was thirty six. It was even more dire than that.
And it wasn't a ton of time. It ate up
a few seconds. He could have done a better job
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of getting the football to the ref. Look, he's a
he's a second your player. There's clearly some you know,
maturing that needs to occur. Confidence he does have a
lot of comment and rightfully so the way he burst
has seen last year and when he's in the game,
the impact he can make, So I get that. I
just that's the surprising thing is is he would you
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know at this point in time he's been in the
NFL long enough to know better, and that I'm not
really sure, Like if it's from a selfish standpoint where
you know, everyone off the field is trying to build
that brand, what is celebrating that first down do for you? Like,
I mean, if anything at all, Like that's not the play.
You need to celebrate that, the touchdown and conversion, that's
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the thing you need to celebrate and make a big deal.
So that's the thing is even if it was out
of its own selfish motive to look cool and and
up help whatever you're doing off the field, you know
that's not really helping you at the end of the day.
So he's gotta gotta you know, it's a grand stage,
standalone game, gonna gonna make himself be seen. Him was
not the row of that. I don't have a problem.
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It was just by the way, if that was a
USC player, Brady would have undressed him on the air.
But of course I know I was gonna say, maybe
it's jujor Smith Schuster wearing a little TikTok before the
game and the midfield. Uh hey, if I if I
told you guys, if I just threw this out there
and said, um that Taysom Hill is a better quarterback
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than two A tug, I mean, how would we feel
about that? Would you do? What? When I get worse
part about that take is is Taysom Hill. We've seen
him for so much longer now, maybe not as a
pure quarterback in the NFL, but like he came out
of b y U as a quarterback and it wasn't
really working. It didn't really work until he got to
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New Orleans and they gave him the chance to be
this Swiss army knife of a player doing a bunch
of different things. So like we kind of know what
he is. And when he's not like two us in
his second year finally starting like enough games, he was
being jerked around by his head coach, it out of
the lineup. Last year he's in a second offensive system,
like he's had anything but stability, And so how you
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could even compare the two, It is mind boggling to me.
And I think if if you can't appreciate the strides
that Too has made in the short amount of time
he's been in the NFL, I can't help you if
I feel like there's some other motives behind trying to
pump up or even compare the two, because it's an
apple's oranges comparison. I'm glad you came to that conclusion. Well, Chris,
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there's no hope for jonas well. Now, first of all,
Chris Simms, I'm not I'm not taking claim for that,
Chris Simms. I've defended to uh, Chris. Chris Simms is
the guy who is making some noise because he said
that Taysom Hill is a better player than to uh
pointed out how far he throws the ball down field. Um,
you know, told idiots on Twitter to shut up, blah
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blah blah blah blah, just so on himself. There was
a moment in time, very briefly, like and when I
say brief, like maybe like a couple of plays where
you're like, you know what, Taysom Hill, it can be
a legit quarterback in this league. Like there were a
couple of plays I didn't see a couple of games
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I didn't. I didn't, I don't. I can't even say
I've seen a couple of series maybe series maybe I'll
say series series singularly. Um, but to a two has
given you games where he's shown you that he can
be the quarterback of the future for for the Miami Dolphins.
So you know, there were times that you could look
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at Taysom Hill's film and say, you know what, he
made a good throw there. There were there were moments
where I was like, man, was that Drew? Oh that
was tasting like, but they were plays you know, you
gotta you gotta put together games of those plays in
order to be considered to be that type of guy.
There's a reason why the book on him. You let
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me give you, guys, like a very very interesting bit
uh of information, aation that is like reality. Okay, when
the book comes out on you and it continues to
be the same exact information that comes out on you,
it's the truth, whether whether true or not. Right like
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and understand what I'm saying, regardless of if it's true
or not. When those reports continue to come out exactly
the same way, it's the truth. You've been made book
on and Taysom Hills. They've made book on Taysom Hill.
The verdict is still out on on on tour. But
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Taysom Hill. You know, you know what you're getting. Well,
I mean, listen, better player than uh than to you know,
according to I just I don't really get the comparison
between the two. I mean, they they couldn't have any
different skill sets. I just I look at them, I go,
why like, why are we comparing these these two quarterbacks?
They're at completely different point in times in their career.
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Unless you feel like New Orleans is really gonna go
for now with Taysom Hill after this year is as
being their franchise quarterback, which I don't. I don't think
it's gonna be the case. So I don't know. I'm
not really sure where that narrative comes from. What the
reason for the comparison is. I think you've got to
give credit for to him the way he's continued to
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grow and mature and play better and better and better
in this league. So I don't get it, man, I
really don't know why that's the hill you want to
die on. I was just gonna say, he seems like
he has gotten better this year. You've seen some development
with him as far as look, I I don't know
what Miami's plan is going to be in the off seat.
If Deshaun Watson's there, I would assume they're going to
make a move. But to A has made it kind
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of interesting to where if the asking price is so significant,
maybe you go in a different direction, or if you
know things play out, you know, from the legal standpoint,
in the wrong direction for Deshaun Watson, maybe you feel
much better about Tah. But look, were as you pointed out,
we talked about it last year. He was getting jerked
in and out of the lineup. He he seems like
he's improved. They've added a little bit around him. Jalen
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Waddle has been fantastic, especially as of late. Yeah, I
just I don't. I don't understand why. Uh, the Taysom
Hill stuff comes like people really want Taysom Hill to
be great, Like there are some people that that are
just dead set on we really need him to be great.
I don't get it. I don't. I don't know what
else you need to see? I don't. I don't know.
I don't want a missing air. I don't know. I
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don't have a I don't have a legit thought to that. Well,
I mean what, like we're committed to wanting Taysom Hill
to be more than what he is. Like, I don't,
I don't. I don't get that. Okay, who's more likely
to add a quarterback in the off season? New Orleans
or Miami? I would say New or New Orleans, New
Orleans and more likely that's that's what's going to happen.
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I guess I'll put it this way. They added one
this offseason. You drafted in the year before, right, Yeah,
you too brought in Jamis Winston like they've had Tassom
on the rock the year before. Don't think Sean Payton
knows what they have And it's just right. I don't
get it, Like I'm not even sure why, Like it's
a topic of conversation. It really doesn't make any sense.
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I don't know. It sounds like something personal, a little
bit of an agenda going on, like there's something going
on behind the scenes. All right, it is too much. Yeah,
I hear, man, when Kate, Kate gets in the way,
I started yawning. Man, when Kake gets in the way,
things can get a little bit confusing, you know, the
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things can get a little bit blurred. The lines, you
know what I mean. Yeah, them lines get a little
BLURREDY ain't straight no more. They changed colors on you.
You're not white anymore. Wait wait, wait, okay, come on
hit that. Yeah I hit it. Hit the dumb, but
hit the dump. But come on, hit the dump. But
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you don't have to hit the RABO isn't racist. It
was it was more too provocative, you know, I was
just to be provocative, you know. It's it's it's a
twelve somewhere in the world where we're at By the way,
I'm glad you brought that up because we did get
Almos talking about white lines on the on the road.
You know, the whole thing about lines. You know, there's
some of those in South Beach from time to time
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they change colors the yellow. But we did get a
message you mentioned it's a ten somewhere. Um guy right
sentences Happy birthday, Robert, Oh, it's mine too. On thet
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some some injury news and notes from around the NFL
that could impact a couple of playoff races in the league.
We get into those with our specialists next year on
fs ARE be sure to catch live editions of Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar
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three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
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Heart Radio. Who got my rain? There in the juke
did juke joint tonight? You know about juke joint? I'm
just glad you finished it. That sounds like juke joint music,
you know. Yeah, like where you like shake your head
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with your your hands and you your feet and you
you go, you shake from side to side. Yeah right,
you know you get lower and get lower when you
do it. The pull fiction dance with that tea. Here
you go, yeah there you go? Yeah, yeah, damn right, yeah,
I hear you. It's Uma Thurman tall. She looks like
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she is. She's tall. How he would you know? What
do you mean, I've looked this up before. What do
you You were at the combine when she was getting measured.
I was curious because for the same reason, she looks tall.
What a weird five ft eleven, What a weird thing
to ever consider looking up? I would never think about
looking at Sarious. Okay, I saw her kill Bill. I
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was like, to LaVar's point, she's kicking as she looks tall.
I think she's like five eleven. She's five eleven. I
just looked it up. She's from Boston. Let me look
at up. I'll look at up right now. I need
to say it again before you guys steal. I looked
it up because I was curious, already said it. That's
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all right, it's still pros and a cup of jail.
Here's from next thing. Next thing, we know Jonas is
gonna say Bryce Junction when the Hyman's Absolutely I've been
saying that for months now. All Right, we are going
to get into one of the favorite you know what's
(15:28):
new audience you never know who didn't hear it the
first talk times. Alright, we're going to get to one
of the show that you're going to do tomorrow. Yeah, well, listen,
it's a good point. That's a good point. And let
me tell you something, LaVar. You play your cards right
through the end of this show. I might give you
guys some pub before the show. I don't you know what,
I don't want any pub I don't want any because
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you're just self promoting. That's all you're doing. What do
I mean on your own show that you had to
have named after yourself? What's the name of the show, John,
You mean the Jonas Knocks Saturday's ten AM now eastern,
seven and nine that specific time. I mean that one
on a self serving Yeah, I mean now we'll get
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a fan amount, you know from Saturday. That is the
only time I hear true confidence in your voice dooring
this show. Anything else? Say it again, Say it again.
Listen to this, Listen to this confidence, Brady, say your show?
Do age do the Jonahs Nack Show Saturday's seven nut
eastern seven and nine Pacific five to seven, Hawaii. Is
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that is that what you wanted? How do you want
a dog close casket? God, there's something wrong with you.
The la bar is on a sugar high. Alright, I
think it really does hit me like I get all
two three walls he absolutely is. All right, So we
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are going to catch up now with our buddy Dr
David Chow. He is the pro football doc kind of
enough to join us here are on a football Friday.
I'm sorry about the shenanigans and all the grab bass Stock.
Didn't mean to keep you waiting so on, No, no
big deal. I just want to know what's in your
coffee this morning. That's so far. I want to ask
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you how how impressed or surprised were you with the
fact that Dalvin Cook suited up last night and then
to go on and do what he did in that
game against the Steelers. Well, very impressed, right, I mean,
just look at how he ran and what he did.
I mean, even if he weren't injured, that was a
very impressive performance. But you know a couple of things
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they're obviously uh you know, the solar dislocation didn't affect
his legs and the legs of the moneymakers, right. And
the other thing is I was surprised that he suited up.
I thought he would miss this week. But I miscalculated
one thing I found out, which is that that shoulder
dislocation when I talked about it, uh, you know, eleven
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days ago. I was like, well, he's gonna this the
Sunday and the next Sunday and this Thursday, because I've
seen it was a new show of dislocation. But it
made sense because the mechanism wasn't very strong and it
just sort of popped out. And then I find out
now that two years ago he dislocated it and he's
just been living with it and hadn't had surgery on it.
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So this time it didn't actually tear anything much new
and that's why I was able to come back so quickly.
And he'll just use the hardness the rest of the season,
and my guesses he'll learn his lesson and have surgery
this offseason. Yeah. No, it was a very impressive, obviously
huge piece two of their win. Um. I'm always curious, though,
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it's more of a general question because being that you've
kind of played this role with an organization when players
when you're looking at medical history. Obviously after the season
will have to combine, we'll have free agency hit us,
and you start looking at some of these injuries, like what,
at what point or how much does it factor into
the conversation about whether or not you're gonna sign the player?
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Whether it you're gonna draft the player. Like, give me
an example of maybe some guys that had some stuff
You're like, yeah, we're not going to touch that, or
it's it's a certain injury we're not gonna touch, maybe
for a running back versus other injuries that you feel
okay about moving forward with that player. Well, it really depends.
It depends on the player, depends on the position, depends
on the team situation. Honestly, it depends on how desperate
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the team is. I mean, does the does management feel
like we're one player away and that could be the player?
Or let's say, in the draft, are we drafting to
have this left tackle for ten years? Are we drafting
this one piece that can get us over the top
type of situation. So a lot of different things go
go into this. U Assistant GM Buddy Nicks told me
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this one. So he goes, yeah, you guys are great
doing the evaluations, because everyone on the league comes to
me and says, well, you took all these chances and
you uh and you made it work, and you always
get lucky because it's not luck. We do evaluate sations.
I mean, one year, I know, and I've told this
story before, uh, we didn't even have Antonio Cromarti on
our list. We were sort of mode first round. We
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thought he'd be gone top ten, and so the team
never even told us to They give us what we
what I call dots, you know, like we put a
dot next to a name, saying this is you know,
the fifty or sixty guys we really want you to
find tooth Comb. Cremarti wasn't even on that list. But
as he started to fall to us, uh, you know,
in the draft room, the head athletic trainer and I
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are sitting in the main draft room at the kid's
table in the corner of the two of us, right
there's the big big boy Thanksgiving table for all the
the hed the you know, the GM assistant GM owners,
head coach, et cetera, and moves us in the corner.
They started coming over to us to say what do
you think, and we're like, you know, he's not ready
today coming off his A C L. But he will
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be kind of thing you can draft and if you want,
but just don't think he's going to be hunder percent.
The start of training camp for the season, well, they
kept coming back to us in any as he felt
to us, and he drafted him. And in the second round,
uh we because of a back issue, Marcus McNeil, are,
a long time left tackle, fell to us. We probably
would have taken Marcus in the first round, and so
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we felt like we got first two first round picks
of the year. So it's not always that dramatic, right,
and that it's a matter of it's very subtle or
there's it's multi factorial. In no way is that the
doctor says draft him, don't draft him. It's here's let's
say the forty time, here's his medical grade. But if
you think he's got game speed, you still draft him.
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Here's his medical grade, here's his risk. But even you
think he's that much better than the next guy, you
sometimes still drafted him or signed him, or do what
you want. Doc. I'm gonna switch up to Taysom Hill.
You know, we've been having a whole lot of conversations
about the mallet finger. He didn't get surgery. He actually
played with a splint on his his finger. He did
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give the admission that he couldn't grip the ball the same.
But I'm just you know, we I tried to exp
playing it on on the show the other day. There
are differences between I guess levels of the injury. Um,
obviously you would be able to do it way more
justice than what I could. Could you explain, because I
know I did it, and I taped it and and
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continue to practice. I never got surgery on it. I mean,
my finger doesn't look it's still a mallet finger. But
I guess I'm what I'm asking is, do you get
the surgery to be able to straighten a finger or
do you get the surgery for something different. In general,
you do not need surgery on mallet fingers. If you
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There are certain types where you have to, but those
are rare. As you point out, the garden variety mallet
finger does not need surgery period. You just need to
splint it an extension or hyper extension so the tendency
stays near the bone and can heal and keep it
that way for six weeks. The reason why guys in
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the NFL sometimes have surgery is it's very hard to
splint it and play through that way, especially if it's
on your throwing hand for a quarterback, right uh, defensive players,
I don't think ever had surgery on nid fingers. They'd
splint it whatever. In quite honest with LaVar, I don't
remember shaking your hand, what your hands look like, but
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it's like a badger hunter that your hands are all
mantle bit crooked, right, I mean it is, it is
what it is. I mean, that's that's that's what it is.
And but for a quarterback it's a different story, not
only for throwing your ball or as and not throwing
the bus Brady, but he said this publicly or his
Brady says for him to pick his nose and he
can explain that comment. Yeah, I mean, look, it's I
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could have used another analogy as far as how to
erect your finger something else for that matter, becomes difficult
to do that. He knows where I'm going with this one.
So no, no, no. To be fair to Brady, I was,
I was giving Brady kudos when we were We had
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talked about Russell Wilson and I knew he wasn't going
to be perfect, but I was more optimistic than Brady was,
and Brady was very pessimistic when he first came back,
and so on Twitter, I said, well, you know, obviously
Russell played like I thought at that given time, at
that five week Mark, but kudos to Brady that you know,
he didn't playing as well as he could, and Brady
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was more worried about that. And Brady replied by saying, Doc,
I still can't pick my nose with that finger. So
that was on Twitter, so I'm not showing him under
the bus. He did it publicly, so such's a true statement.
And even if I said it privately too, I'd still
share that here with our audience at Fox Sports Radio.
But um, and I do think he's starting to get
more comfortable with that new normal, and I think that's
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you know, players tend to adjust, right. I think Bill
Bell and me said how to be a player? You know,
true players adjust, so you've got to. But in this case,
I think he's starting to, you know, adjust to whatever
that new normal was for his grip and for his release.
The interesting thing is gonna be is how long does
that take Taysom Hill to figure that out or if
they're gonna give him enough time considering the playoffs scenarios
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and all that sort of thing. Uh, Doc, anything in
particular with injuries this season kind of stick out to you.
And I know sometimes whether it's concussions, which tends to
be something the NFL looks at, you know, and trying
to bring down the number or lower extremity injuries like
I always always felt like since the league went to
Nike as the default kind of shoe and apparel provider,
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it seems to be there's been more foot injuries, achilles, ankle,
knee like everything, lower extremity, but no one wants to
talk about it because they don't want to question potentially
Nike and what is that big brand, a behemoth of
a company. Anything in particular you're seeing, you know, from
the league right now. In regards to trends and injuries, well,
there's no question that that over time, and I'm talking
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over many years, in over decades, there have been more foot,
ankle injuries, achilles, etcetera. And you have to understand that
as players get bigger, faster, stronger, your achilles doesn't get
any thicker, your foot doesn't get any really bigger or stronger.
So you're planning bigger and bigger trees into the same
size pot, right, and so things absolutely can happen there.
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But there's lots of different things and trends that you
can say. I mean, look, kickoffs continue being an issue
last night, Ryan Connelly, I believe towards a c L
non contact running down on a kickoff. I mean that's
been a league priority. Uh. Justin Field is returning from
his rib injury this week, and quite honestly, I see
more guys missing time with rib injuries like two earlier
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this season, etcetera. Back in the day when you guys
were playing, you guys know this. You just shot it
up and played. But I think some of them trickle down,
for that is a Sometimes coaches want players to practice
before they play on Sunday, not just throw them out
there on Sunday and be the Tyrod Taylor hangover effects
from last year when there was that quote collapsed lung
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after his pregame re rib injection and it costom time.
So you know, in years past, I think, Brady, you
know this, and LaVar if you had a rib fracture,
ribbed injury, you just got a rib block and played
on Sunday. And we see lots of examples of that
not happening this year. And I'm not saying that's bad
or good. I'm just making the observation. Can I ask
this only because I had that injury like two twelve
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and they would shoot it up with novocaine, and then
you know, you go to your points, you go out
there and play, and I gotta I gotta be honest
with you. Ever since then, I've always feel like I'll
get like the weirdest cramps like in my rib. It's
not like a side effect. I know it's gonna getting
personal here, but it's like a side effect of all that. Um,
it shouldn't be. Ribs heeled pretty pretty reliably there, so
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it really shouldn't be. But in the Justin Fields example,
we all remember him in the Sugar Bowl against Clemson
while he was in a high state. Get Jack going
to the tent, probably get ribbed. Injections will come back
and be suon for man. But in this game in
the NFL with the rip car, which he actually lists
two weeks, it's not a comment on Dustin Field. Maybe
the real injury was different. Maybe there's some other situations,
(28:09):
maybe Matt that he was involved in the decision. Who knows,
But I'm just noticing different trends, is all. Dr David
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we are going to debut a brand new segment here
on the show with a very special host. By the way,
stick Around a Fox Sports Radio are we gonna get
another edition of Fox Sports Bradio Brady Quinn on the
Dan Patrick Showed today on a Friday. Is that gonna
have no idea what we're gonna talk about. Um, you know,
(29:38):
Big Neon Kickoff is done, retired for this season, So
congrats man. Hey, thanks man. By the way, by the way,
do they call your segment on Dan Patrick Show the
the Brady Quinn segment on No Dan Patrick Show? It
is not. It is not called that. They don't need
me anything. And by the way, that's spy design. I
(29:59):
don't anyone to name anything after me. I'm not that
type of guy. You know what? Uh? You were on
from ten to noon Eastern time on Fox Sports Radio
every Saturday, and then all of a sudden they looked
around and saw, you know, somebody hotter in the bar
and said, you know, we'll take the Jonas knock Show instead. Yeah,
you're not that. You guys could take a walk. You
guys could take a walk for a real project. You
(30:20):
know what's about that is we had our season to
end for Jonas to get an opportunity. And when he
got that opportunity, yeah, they said, hey, what do you
want to name the show, and he's like, well, what
else would I get it? You bet your after back
from let me tell you something your season and because
I made it end pal right, I made that the
truth is coming out. Hey, Brady, you do know he
wakes up in the morning, he looks at himself in
the mirror and he's like, they replaced it with The
(30:43):
Jonas Knock Show. They replaced Big Neon Kickoff with the
Jonas Knock Say whatever you want, say whatever you want.
I didn't steal them. I didn't steal from Gail this morning. Okay,
so see you say whatever you want. I did not
steal from Gail. In fact, Gail As walked by at
least three or four times and waved at me so
happily to see me here, and she might be a
(31:06):
part of this new segment. So all right, So this
is a brand new segment that we don't have a
name for it. Very bare bones here, we don't have
a name for it. Yeah, I mean, what other name
would you want? The Jonas Knock Show. Tenda newn Eastern
seven and nine Pcentific. Kids. By the way, so Brady
Quinn is going to be your host here? Uh? I
(31:28):
mean if he's not m seeing Notre Dames introductory head
coach press conference or appearing on the Dan Patrick Show.
He puts together segments here on Fox Sports Radio. Mr
Quinns take it away. Yeah, look, I figured we'd give
our listeners maybe something outside of sports for a moment.
Maybe some news stories that both Jonas and LaVar and
Lee Roberto Eddie, maybe those guys find interesting. So let
(31:51):
me just start off in the great state of Colorado.
Kinda love Colorado. Okay, Colorado man sets his mom is
home ablaze trying to clear cobwebs with a blowtorch. It's
like it's a little much. Yeah, but you know what,
give him credit, you know, because it did work. I mean,
(32:14):
did are the cobwebs still? They're probably not there? Nothing's there?
Hey sometimes hey, sometimes you had a clean house. You
can't just fire the head coach got getting into the
g M two. All right, so lit everything's gotta go.
I give him credit. Who owns a blowtorch? Is that
that people want one? Did you? Did you purchase this? Separately?
(32:34):
Like I got a cobweb problem? What should I get
at home? Deep blowtorch? Did they sell blowtorches at home?
Depot like you find you just really do not like
spiders if you're blowing down you know that type of stuff. Yeah,
they're yeah, they're harmless, simpler. Just get a duster, um lee,
(32:55):
do we have the sound for the one I sent you?
Pulling that up? Let's see here we got one second?
That would be okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go to
another store first, to another story first, all right, A
New Hampshire woman allegedly kept her mother's corpse for months
while security Social Security payments continue to come in. That
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what's the point of having a freezer? There? You go?
What's the point? I'm just saying, I guess Yeah, I mean, like,
you know, you gotta I mean, you know you need
that cash, that check to come in, and uh, you know,
it's a big b beats working for a living, so
why not, you know, make sure you know the freezer's
at tech and uh let's let it ride here. You know,
(33:42):
this was first about love, you know, and then I
realized it was just about the Social Security checks. Yeah,
I think I was starting to you know, kind of
when you first started reading, I was a little bit envious,
and then I thought, oh no, that was just to
scam somebody. So, yeah, that's too bad that there, Okay,
the one I'm not I'm not gonna wait on Lee
with this this we can say that always got it. Okay.
(34:05):
So there's an employee who decided to quit his job.
He did slow on a messaging app called Slack, but
he paid for a cameo from the now famous Island
Boys we've made reference to before our show. He please
play the sound. Hey, Ron wants to let you know
that Robert doesn't want to work here anymore because they're
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I Live by I'm gonna keep it on my I
Live Boy, oh and and and and E on the
score with don't want to leave with la Oh my gosh.
If you can see what they look like to go
along with that, yeah, they look like everlasting gob stoppers
(34:48):
job boy. I would love to see them. They'll do
that act in Jamaica, like right hard. So this is
a new friend. Apparently people are now paying for cameos
then on Slack or other mestr apps quit their job,
which I mean, you can't use that company as a reference,
(35:08):
right If that's how you quit your job. I can't
stand those guys right now. They really bother me, and
and the fact that Brady and Roberto secretly love them irritate, hilarious,
and I just want to know how much they're making
for that. And they looked like something you pull out
of a Klaws you want to see, I'm saying it.
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doesn't make any sense. We got a coach that might
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be tired of one of the players on his roster,
and we will get into all of that here coming
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(01:03):
eater himself. We're gonna have man baby on a football Friday.
Is Brady like to point out every single Friday for
some reason. I mean, I don't know why. It's just
like his thing. Hey, can I ask you got something?
Gets made fun of a lot? Yeah? You know, have
you ever had Cafe d Oila? So you are you
(01:27):
guys up on Cafe d Oila. It's a Mexican style
of of doing your coffee. I was hoping I put
burto up on it of it. My wife is though,
she loves that thing. Oh you use one of those those?
Uh you you cook it and like it's like cinnamon
and oh my gosh, bro it is. I may one
(01:48):
this morning and it's not as good as like the
good ones? Did you did you make one in that
cafe that you did? You're out right now? I did
just turned that. I mean, you know they've welcomed me
in here with open arms. But you know you'll be
(02:09):
coming next not Jonas, not so much. But you're probably
keeping her. You'll probably get a call to come hang out,
you know. I mean, they'll set you up. And I
love getting picked on every morning, but you two juice heads,
that's always a good time here. It's I don't know why,
why don't gonna be picked on? I can't be invited
to have a gayl's birthday cake and some cafe blah
(02:30):
blah blah whatever. You know, I'm sure if Gail saw you,
she give you all her birthday cake like she lets
you have it, you know, sure, that's sure, it's picing
and all. You know, people in the office, now, maybe
we should keep it down, yere, my room is soundproof. Yeah,
well let's keep it up. Then. I thought it was
(02:51):
pretty interesting that soundproof. You know. Yeah, great culture around here. Man,
I'll tell you what realized the man. No reason for
the sound to carry into everybody else's business, you know
what I mean? Can I Brady? You're Brady, You're the
you're the notre dame representative here. Um, what do you
make a Chase Claypool's uh, you know, early going in
(03:13):
the NFL and what went down last night. Mike Tomlin
seems like he's a bit frustrated. He was celebrating the
first down with thirty six seconds left. I mean, not
the best football awareness. But he got benched early in
the game because he got a taunting penalty like a
minute and a half in, and Mike Tomlin admitted, yeah,
(03:34):
I benched him, you know, the rest of the quarter
or whatever it was because of the taunting penalty. And
then he signals first down in a two minute drill
and eats up a bunch of clock that they needed
towards the end of that game. Okay, it was like
I just played painted the scenario. It wasn't two minutes,
it was thirty six. It was even more dire than that.
And it wasn't a ton of time. It ate up
a few seconds. He could have done a better job
(03:56):
of getting the football to the ref. Look, he's a
he's a second your player. There's clearly some you know,
maturing that needs to occur. Confidence he does have a
lot of comment and rightfully so the way he burst
has seen last year and when he's in the game,
the impact he can make, So I get that. I
just that's the surprising thing is is he would you
(04:18):
know at this point in time he's been in the
NFL long enough to know better, and that I'm not
really sure, Like if it's from a selfish standpoint where
you know, everyone off the field is trying to build
that brand, what is celebrating that first down do for you? Like,
I mean, if anything at all, Like that's not the play.
You need to celebrate that, the touchdown and conversion, that's
(04:42):
the thing you need to celebrate and make a big deal.
So that's the thing is even if it was out
of its own selfish motive to look cool and and
up help whatever you're doing off the field, you know
that's not really helping you at the end of the day.
So he's gotta gotta you know, it's a grand stage,
standalone game, gonna gonna make himself be seen. Him was
not the row of that. I don't have a problem.
(05:03):
It was just by the way, if that was a
USC player, Brady would have undressed him on the air.
But of course I know I was gonna say, maybe
it's jujor Smith Schuster wearing a little TikTok before the
game and the midfield. Uh hey, if I if I
told you guys, if I just threw this out there
and said, um that Taysom Hill is a better quarterback
(05:23):
than two A tug, I mean, how would we feel
about that? Would you do? What? When I get worse
part about that take is is Taysom Hill. We've seen
him for so much longer now, maybe not as a
pure quarterback in the NFL, but like he came out
of b y U as a quarterback and it wasn't
really working. It didn't really work until he got to
(05:44):
New Orleans and they gave him the chance to be
this Swiss army knife of a player doing a bunch
of different things. So like we kind of know what
he is. And when he's not like two us in
his second year finally starting like enough games, he was
being jerked around by his head coach, it out of
the lineup. Last year he's in a second offensive system,
like he's had anything but stability, And so how you
(06:07):
could even compare the two, It is mind boggling to me.
And I think if if you can't appreciate the strides
that Too has made in the short amount of time
he's been in the NFL, I can't help you if
I feel like there's some other motives behind trying to
pump up or even compare the two, because it's an
apple's oranges comparison. I'm glad you came to that conclusion. Well, Chris,
(06:31):
there's no hope for jonas well. Now, first of all,
Chris Simms, I'm not I'm not taking claim for that,
Chris Simms. I've defended to uh, Chris. Chris Simms is
the guy who is making some noise because he said
that Taysom Hill is a better player than to uh
pointed out how far he throws the ball down field. Um,
you know, told idiots on Twitter to shut up, blah
(06:52):
blah blah blah blah, just so on himself. There was
a moment in time, very briefly, like and when I
say brief, like maybe like a couple of plays where
you're like, you know what, Taysom Hill, it can be
a legit quarterback in this league. Like there were a
couple of plays I didn't see a couple of games
(07:12):
I didn't. I didn't, I don't. I can't even say
I've seen a couple of series maybe series maybe I'll
say series series singularly. Um, but to a two has
given you games where he's shown you that he can
be the quarterback of the future for for the Miami Dolphins.
So you know, there were times that you could look
(07:35):
at Taysom Hill's film and say, you know what, he
made a good throw there. There were there were moments
where I was like, man, was that Drew? Oh that
was tasting like, but they were plays you know, you
gotta you gotta put together games of those plays in
order to be considered to be that type of guy.
There's a reason why the book on him. You let
(07:55):
me give you, guys, like a very very interesting bit
uh of information, aation that is like reality. Okay, when
the book comes out on you and it continues to
be the same exact information that comes out on you,
it's the truth, whether whether true or not. Right like
(08:17):
and understand what I'm saying, regardless of if it's true
or not. When those reports continue to come out exactly
the same way, it's the truth. You've been made book
on and Taysom Hills. They've made book on Taysom Hill.
The verdict is still out on on on tour. But
(08:38):
Taysom Hill. You know, you know what you're getting. Well,
I mean, listen, better player than uh than to you know,
according to I just I don't really get the comparison
between the two. I mean, they they couldn't have any
different skill sets. I just I look at them, I go,
why like, why are we comparing these these two quarterbacks?
They're at completely different point in times in their career.
(09:01):
Unless you feel like New Orleans is really gonna go
for now with Taysom Hill after this year is as
being their franchise quarterback, which I don't. I don't think
it's gonna be the case. So I don't know. I'm
not really sure where that narrative comes from. What the
reason for the comparison is. I think you've got to
give credit for to him the way he's continued to
(09:21):
grow and mature and play better and better and better
in this league. So I don't get it, man, I
really don't know why that's the hill you want to
die on. I was just gonna say, he seems like
he has gotten better this year. You've seen some development
with him as far as look, I I don't know
what Miami's plan is going to be in the off seat.
If Deshaun Watson's there, I would assume they're going to
make a move. But to A has made it kind
(09:41):
of interesting to where if the asking price is so significant,
maybe you go in a different direction, or if you
know things play out, you know, from the legal standpoint,
in the wrong direction for Deshaun Watson, maybe you feel
much better about Tah. But look, were as you pointed out,
we talked about it last year. He was getting jerked
in and out of the lineup. He he seems like
he's improved. They've added a little bit around him. Jalen
(10:03):
Waddle has been fantastic, especially as of late. Yeah, I
just I don't. I don't understand why. Uh, the Taysom
Hill stuff comes like people really want Taysom Hill to
be great, Like there are some people that that are
just dead set on we really need him to be great.
I don't get it. I don't. I don't know what
else you need to see? I don't. I don't know.
I don't want a missing air. I don't know. I
(10:25):
don't have a I don't have a legit thought to that. Well,
I mean what, like we're committed to wanting Taysom Hill
to be more than what he is. Like, I don't,
I don't. I don't get that. Okay, who's more likely
to add a quarterback in the off season? New Orleans
or Miami? I would say New or New Orleans, New
Orleans and more likely that's that's what's going to happen.
(10:48):
I guess I'll put it this way. They added one
this offseason. You drafted in the year before, right, Yeah,
you too brought in Jamis Winston like they've had Tassom
on the rock the year before. Don't think Sean Payton
knows what they have And it's just right. I don't
get it, Like I'm not even sure why, Like it's
a topic of conversation. It really doesn't make any sense.
(11:10):
I don't know. It sounds like something personal, a little
bit of an agenda going on, like there's something going
on behind the scenes. All right, it is too much. Yeah,
I hear, man, when Kate, Kate gets in the way,
I started yawning. Man, when Kake gets in the way,
things can get a little bit confusing, you know, the
(11:30):
things can get a little bit blurred. The lines, you
know what I mean. Yeah, them lines get a little
BLURREDY ain't straight no more. They changed colors on you.
You're not white anymore. Wait wait, wait, okay, come on
hit that. Yeah I hit it. Hit the dumb, but
hit the dump. But come on, hit the dump. But
(11:53):
you don't have to hit the RABO isn't racist. It
was it was more too provocative, you know, I was
just to be provocative, you know. It's it's it's a
twelve somewhere in the world where we're at By the way,
I'm glad you brought that up because we did get
Almos talking about white lines on the on the road.
You know, the whole thing about lines. You know, there's
some of those in South Beach from time to time
(12:16):
they change colors the yellow. But we did get a
message you mentioned it's a ten somewhere. Um guy right
sentences Happy birthday, Robert, Oh, it's mine too. On thet
I'm from Brussels, Belgium and listening to you guys every
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to places I've always wanted to visit. My one went
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(13:39):
Heart Radio. Who got my rain? There in the juke
did juke joint tonight? You know about juke joint? I'm
just glad you finished it. That sounds like juke joint music,
you know. Yeah, like where you like shake your head
(14:00):
with your your hands and you your feet and you
you go, you shake from side to side. Yeah right,
you know you get lower and get lower when you
do it. The pull fiction dance with that tea. Here
you go, yeah there you go? Yeah, yeah, damn right, yeah,
I hear you. It's Uma Thurman tall. She looks like
(14:20):
she is. She's tall. How he would you know? What
do you mean, I've looked this up before. What do
you You were at the combine when she was getting measured.
I was curious because for the same reason, she looks tall.
What a weird five ft eleven, What a weird thing
to ever consider looking up? I would never think about
looking at Sarious. Okay, I saw her kill Bill. I
(14:40):
was like, to LaVar's point, she's kicking as she looks tall.
I think she's like five eleven. She's five eleven. I
just looked it up. She's from Boston. Let me look
at up. I'll look at up right now. I need
to say it again before you guys steal. I looked
it up because I was curious, already said it. That's
(15:03):
all right, it's still pros and a cup of jail.
Here's from next thing. Next thing, we know Jonas is
gonna say Bryce Junction when the Hyman's Absolutely I've been
saying that for months now. All Right, we are going
to get into one of the favorite you know what's
(15:28):
new audience you never know who didn't hear it the
first talk times. Alright, we're going to get to one
of the show that you're going to do tomorrow. Yeah, well, listen,
it's a good point. That's a good point. And let
me tell you something, LaVar. You play your cards right
through the end of this show. I might give you
guys some pub before the show. I don't you know what,
I don't want any pub I don't want any because
(15:49):
you're just self promoting. That's all you're doing. What do
I mean on your own show that you had to
have named after yourself? What's the name of the show, John,
You mean the Jonas Knocks Saturday's ten AM now eastern,
seven and nine that specific time. I mean that one
on a self serving Yeah, I mean now we'll get
(16:10):
a fan amount, you know from Saturday. That is the
only time I hear true confidence in your voice dooring
this show. Anything else? Say it again, Say it again.
Listen to this, Listen to this confidence, Brady, say your show?
Do age do the Jonahs Nack Show Saturday's seven nut
eastern seven and nine Pacific five to seven, Hawaii. Is
(16:30):
that is that what you wanted? How do you want
a dog close casket? God, there's something wrong with you.
The la bar is on a sugar high. Alright, I
think it really does hit me like I get all
two three walls he absolutely is. All right, So we
(16:51):
are going to catch up now with our buddy Dr
David Chow. He is the pro football doc kind of
enough to join us here are on a football Friday.
I'm sorry about the shenanigans and all the grab bass Stock.
Didn't mean to keep you waiting so on, No, no
big deal. I just want to know what's in your
coffee this morning. That's so far. I want to ask
(17:14):
you how how impressed or surprised were you with the
fact that Dalvin Cook suited up last night and then
to go on and do what he did in that
game against the Steelers. Well, very impressed, right, I mean,
just look at how he ran and what he did.
I mean, even if he weren't injured, that was a
very impressive performance. But you know a couple of things
(17:36):
they're obviously uh you know, the solar dislocation didn't affect
his legs and the legs of the moneymakers, right. And
the other thing is I was surprised that he suited up.
I thought he would miss this week. But I miscalculated
one thing I found out, which is that that shoulder
dislocation when I talked about it, uh, you know, eleven
(17:57):
days ago. I was like, well, he's gonna this the
Sunday and the next Sunday and this Thursday, because I've
seen it was a new show of dislocation. But it
made sense because the mechanism wasn't very strong and it
just sort of popped out. And then I find out
now that two years ago he dislocated it and he's
just been living with it and hadn't had surgery on it.
(18:19):
So this time it didn't actually tear anything much new
and that's why I was able to come back so quickly.
And he'll just use the hardness the rest of the season,
and my guesses he'll learn his lesson and have surgery
this offseason. Yeah. No, it was a very impressive, obviously
huge piece two of their win. Um. I'm always curious, though,
(18:39):
it's more of a general question because being that you've
kind of played this role with an organization when players
when you're looking at medical history. Obviously after the season
will have to combine, we'll have free agency hit us,
and you start looking at some of these injuries, like what,
at what point or how much does it factor into
the conversation about whether or not you're gonna sign the player?
(18:59):
Whether it you're gonna draft the player. Like, give me
an example of maybe some guys that had some stuff
You're like, yeah, we're not going to touch that, or
it's it's a certain injury we're not gonna touch, maybe
for a running back versus other injuries that you feel
okay about moving forward with that player. Well, it really depends.
It depends on the player, depends on the position, depends
on the team situation. Honestly, it depends on how desperate
(19:25):
the team is. I mean, does the does management feel
like we're one player away and that could be the player?
Or let's say, in the draft, are we drafting to
have this left tackle for ten years? Are we drafting
this one piece that can get us over the top
type of situation. So a lot of different things go
go into this. U Assistant GM Buddy Nicks told me
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this one. So he goes, yeah, you guys are great
doing the evaluations, because everyone on the league comes to
me and says, well, you took all these chances and
you uh and you made it work, and you always
get lucky because it's not luck. We do evaluate sations.
I mean, one year, I know, and I've told this
story before, uh, we didn't even have Antonio Cromarti on
our list. We were sort of mode first round. We
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thought he'd be gone top ten, and so the team
never even told us to They give us what we
what I call dots, you know, like we put a
dot next to a name, saying this is you know,
the fifty or sixty guys we really want you to
find tooth Comb. Cremarti wasn't even on that list. But
as he started to fall to us, uh, you know,
in the draft room, the head athletic trainer and I
(20:30):
are sitting in the main draft room at the kid's
table in the corner of the two of us, right
there's the big big boy Thanksgiving table for all the
the hed the you know, the GM assistant GM owners,
head coach, et cetera, and moves us in the corner.
They started coming over to us to say what do
you think, and we're like, you know, he's not ready
today coming off his A C L. But he will
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be kind of thing you can draft and if you want,
but just don't think he's going to be hunder percent.
The start of training camp for the season, well, they
kept coming back to us in any as he felt
to us, and he drafted him. And in the second round,
uh we because of a back issue, Marcus McNeil, are,
a long time left tackle, fell to us. We probably
would have taken Marcus in the first round, and so
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we felt like we got first two first round picks
of the year. So it's not always that dramatic, right,
and that it's a matter of it's very subtle or
there's it's multi factorial. In no way is that the
doctor says draft him, don't draft him. It's here's let's
say the forty time, here's his medical grade. But if
you think he's got game speed, you still draft him.
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Here's his medical grade, here's his risk. But even you
think he's that much better than the next guy, you
sometimes still drafted him or signed him, or do what
you want. Doc. I'm gonna switch up to Taysom Hill.
You know, we've been having a whole lot of conversations
about the mallet finger. He didn't get surgery. He actually
played with a splint on his his finger. He did
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give the admission that he couldn't grip the ball the same.
But I'm just you know, we I tried to exp
playing it on on the show the other day. There
are differences between I guess levels of the injury. Um,
obviously you would be able to do it way more
justice than what I could. Could you explain, because I
know I did it, and I taped it and and
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continue to practice. I never got surgery on it. I mean,
my finger doesn't look it's still a mallet finger. But
I guess I'm what I'm asking is, do you get
the surgery to be able to straighten a finger or
do you get the surgery for something different. In general,
you do not need surgery on mallet fingers. If you
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There are certain types where you have to, but those
are rare. As you point out, the garden variety mallet
finger does not need surgery period. You just need to
splint it an extension or hyper extension so the tendency
stays near the bone and can heal and keep it
that way for six weeks. The reason why guys in
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the NFL sometimes have surgery is it's very hard to
splint it and play through that way, especially if it's
on your throwing hand for a quarterback, right uh, defensive players,
I don't think ever had surgery on nid fingers. They'd
splint it whatever. In quite honest with LaVar, I don't
remember shaking your hand, what your hands look like, but
(23:22):
it's like a badger hunter that your hands are all
mantle bit crooked, right, I mean it is, it is
what it is. I mean, that's that's that's what it is.
And but for a quarterback it's a different story, not
only for throwing your ball or as and not throwing
the bus Brady, but he said this publicly or his
Brady says for him to pick his nose and he
can explain that comment. Yeah, I mean, look, it's I
(23:45):
could have used another analogy as far as how to
erect your finger something else for that matter, becomes difficult
to do that. He knows where I'm going with this one.
So no, no, no. To be fair to Brady, I was,
I was giving Brady kudos when we were We had
(24:07):
talked about Russell Wilson and I knew he wasn't going
to be perfect, but I was more optimistic than Brady was,
and Brady was very pessimistic when he first came back,
and so on Twitter, I said, well, you know, obviously
Russell played like I thought at that given time, at
that five week Mark, but kudos to Brady that you know,
he didn't playing as well as he could, and Brady
(24:28):
was more worried about that. And Brady replied by saying, Doc,
I still can't pick my nose with that finger. So
that was on Twitter, so I'm not showing him under
the bus. He did it publicly, so such's a true statement.
And even if I said it privately too, I'd still
share that here with our audience at Fox Sports Radio.
But um, and I do think he's starting to get
more comfortable with that new normal, and I think that's
(24:51):
you know, players tend to adjust, right. I think Bill
Bell and me said how to be a player? You know,
true players adjust, so you've got to. But in this case,
I think he's starting to, you know, adjust to whatever
that new normal was for his grip and for his release.
The interesting thing is gonna be is how long does
that take Taysom Hill to figure that out or if
they're gonna give him enough time considering the playoffs scenarios
(25:11):
and all that sort of thing. Uh, Doc, anything in
particular with injuries this season kind of stick out to you.
And I know sometimes whether it's concussions, which tends to
be something the NFL looks at, you know, and trying
to bring down the number or lower extremity injuries like
I always always felt like since the league went to
Nike as the default kind of shoe and apparel provider,
(25:32):
it seems to be there's been more foot injuries, achilles, ankle,
knee like everything, lower extremity, but no one wants to
talk about it because they don't want to question potentially
Nike and what is that big brand, a behemoth of
a company. Anything in particular you're seeing, you know, from
the league right now. In regards to trends and injuries, well,
there's no question that that over time, and I'm talking
(25:55):
over many years, in over decades, there have been more foot,
ankle injuries, achilles, etcetera. And you have to understand that
as players get bigger, faster, stronger, your achilles doesn't get
any thicker, your foot doesn't get any really bigger or stronger.
So you're planning bigger and bigger trees into the same
size pot, right, and so things absolutely can happen there.
(26:18):
But there's lots of different things and trends that you
can say. I mean, look, kickoffs continue being an issue
last night, Ryan Connelly, I believe towards a c L
non contact running down on a kickoff. I mean that's
been a league priority. Uh. Justin Field is returning from
his rib injury this week, and quite honestly, I see
more guys missing time with rib injuries like two earlier
(26:41):
this season, etcetera. Back in the day when you guys
were playing, you guys know this. You just shot it
up and played. But I think some of them trickle down,
for that is a Sometimes coaches want players to practice
before they play on Sunday, not just throw them out
there on Sunday and be the Tyrod Taylor hangover effects
from last year when there was that quote collapsed lung
(27:03):
after his pregame re rib injection and it costom time.
So you know, in years past, I think, Brady, you
know this, and LaVar if you had a rib fracture,
ribbed injury, you just got a rib block and played
on Sunday. And we see lots of examples of that
not happening this year. And I'm not saying that's bad
or good. I'm just making the observation. Can I ask
this only because I had that injury like two twelve
(27:26):
and they would shoot it up with novocaine, and then
you know, you go to your points, you go out
there and play, and I gotta I gotta be honest
with you. Ever since then, I've always feel like I'll
get like the weirdest cramps like in my rib. It's
not like a side effect. I know it's gonna getting
personal here, but it's like a side effect of all that. Um,
it shouldn't be. Ribs heeled pretty pretty reliably there, so
(27:49):
it really shouldn't be. But in the Justin Fields example,
we all remember him in the Sugar Bowl against Clemson
while he was in a high state. Get Jack going
to the tent, probably get ribbed. Injections will come back
and be suon for man. But in this game in
the NFL with the rip car, which he actually lists
two weeks, it's not a comment on Dustin Field. Maybe
the real injury was different. Maybe there's some other situations,
(28:09):
maybe Matt that he was involved in the decision. Who knows,
But I'm just noticing different trends, is all. Dr David
Chow he is the Pro Football Doc. You can get
him on Twitter at pro Football Doc. We always appreciate
the knowledge. Thanks so much, for popping on. Be sure
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LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knoxually here on fs are
we are going to debut a brand new segment here
on the show with a very special host. By the way,
stick Around a Fox Sports Radio are we gonna get
another edition of Fox Sports Bradio Brady Quinn on the
Dan Patrick Showed today on a Friday. Is that gonna
have no idea what we're gonna talk about. Um, you know,
(29:38):
Big Neon Kickoff is done, retired for this season, So
congrats man. Hey, thanks man. By the way, by the way,
do they call your segment on Dan Patrick Show the
the Brady Quinn segment on No Dan Patrick Show? It
is not. It is not called that. They don't need
me anything. And by the way, that's spy design. I
(29:59):
don't anyone to name anything after me. I'm not that
type of guy. You know what? Uh? You were on
from ten to noon Eastern time on Fox Sports Radio
every Saturday, and then all of a sudden they looked
around and saw, you know, somebody hotter in the bar
and said, you know, we'll take the Jonas knock Show instead. Yeah,
you're not that. You guys could take a walk. You
guys could take a walk for a real project. You
(30:20):
know what's about that is we had our season to
end for Jonas to get an opportunity. And when he
got that opportunity, yeah, they said, hey, what do you
want to name the show, and he's like, well, what
else would I get it? You bet your after back
from let me tell you something your season and because
I made it end pal right, I made that the
truth is coming out. Hey, Brady, you do know he
wakes up in the morning, he looks at himself in
the mirror and he's like, they replaced it with The
(30:43):
Jonas Knock Show. They replaced Big Neon Kickoff with the
Jonas Knock Say whatever you want, say whatever you want.
I didn't steal them. I didn't steal from Gail this morning. Okay,
so see you say whatever you want. I did not
steal from Gail. In fact, Gail As walked by at
least three or four times and waved at me so
happily to see me here, and she might be a
(31:06):
part of this new segment. So all right, So this
is a brand new segment that we don't have a
name for it. Very bare bones here, we don't have
a name for it. Yeah, I mean, what other name
would you want? The Jonas Knock Show. Tenda newn Eastern
seven and nine Pcentific. Kids. By the way, so Brady
Quinn is going to be your host here? Uh? I
(31:28):
mean if he's not m seeing Notre Dames introductory head
coach press conference or appearing on the Dan Patrick Show.
He puts together segments here on Fox Sports Radio. Mr
Quinns take it away. Yeah, look, I figured we'd give
our listeners maybe something outside of sports for a moment.
Maybe some news stories that both Jonas and LaVar and
Lee Roberto Eddie, maybe those guys find interesting. So let
(31:51):
me just start off in the great state of Colorado.
Kinda love Colorado. Okay, Colorado man sets his mom is
home ablaze trying to clear cobwebs with a blowtorch. It's
like it's a little much. Yeah, but you know what,
give him credit, you know, because it did work. I mean,
(32:14):
did are the cobwebs still? They're probably not there? Nothing's there?
Hey sometimes hey, sometimes you had a clean house. You
can't just fire the head coach got getting into the
g M two. All right, so lit everything's gotta go.
I give him credit. Who owns a blowtorch? Is that
that people want one? Did you? Did you purchase this? Separately?
(32:34):
Like I got a cobweb problem? What should I get
at home? Deep blowtorch? Did they sell blowtorches at home?
Depot like you find you just really do not like
spiders if you're blowing down you know that type of stuff. Yeah,
they're yeah, they're harmless, simpler. Just get a duster, um lee,
(32:55):
do we have the sound for the one I sent you?
Pulling that up? Let's see here we got one second?
That would be okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go to
another store first, to another story first, all right, A
New Hampshire woman allegedly kept her mother's corpse for months
while security Social Security payments continue to come in. That
(33:21):
what's the point of having a freezer? There? You go?
What's the point? I'm just saying, I guess Yeah, I mean, like,
you know, you gotta I mean, you know you need
that cash, that check to come in, and uh, you know,
it's a big b beats working for a living, so
why not, you know, make sure you know the freezer's
at tech and uh let's let it ride here. You know,
(33:42):
this was first about love, you know, and then I
realized it was just about the Social Security checks. Yeah,
I think I was starting to you know, kind of
when you first started reading, I was a little bit envious,
and then I thought, oh no, that was just to
scam somebody. So, yeah, that's too bad that there, Okay,
the one I'm not I'm not gonna wait on Lee
with this this we can say that always got it. Okay.
(34:05):
So there's an employee who decided to quit his job.
He did slow on a messaging app called Slack, but
he paid for a cameo from the now famous Island
Boys we've made reference to before our show. He please
play the sound. Hey, Ron wants to let you know
that Robert doesn't want to work here anymore because they're
(34:28):
I Live by I'm gonna keep it on my I
Live Boy, oh and and and and E on the
score with don't want to leave with la Oh my gosh.
If you can see what they look like to go
along with that, yeah, they look like everlasting gob stoppers
(34:48):
job boy. I would love to see them. They'll do
that act in Jamaica, like right hard. So this is
a new friend. Apparently people are now paying for cameos
then on Slack or other mestr apps quit their job,
which I mean, you can't use that company as a reference,
(35:08):
right If that's how you quit your job. I can't
stand those guys right now. They really bother me, and
and the fact that Brady and Roberto secretly love them irritate, hilarious,
and I just want to know how much they're making
for that. And they looked like something you pull out
of a Klaws you want to see, I'm saying it.
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