December 13, 2021 • 37 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar debate if Aaron Rodgers is leaning towards leaving Green Bay in the offseason. The Bills are on to verge of the most disappointing season. Plus, Michael Strahan in space and much more!
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football here as we wind down week four team. We've
got a Monday night game coming up later on tonight.
Playoff races are starting to shape up. By the way,
howbout the fact that the Indianapolis Colts didn't play and
are now the sixth seed in the a f C.
So that was a pretty productive weekend for the Indianapolis
Colts where all of a sudden making some noise. Good
for Indivan But that Carson, yeah, I agree, Let everybody
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else take this out. Bear should try that spectator I
work better for him, all right, you gotta win a
couple of games for for that to work. Well, that's true. Um.
So the so the green Bay Packers win last night,
we talked about just you know, some of the rumors,
you know, the Bears side of things, like green Bay
gets it done. Aaron Rodgers says afterwards that his toe
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has actually gotten worse, whatever that means. Um. But Chris
Collinsworth made a comment when they were talking about it
late in the game because the game was obviously a
blowout and not a whole lot going on, and him
and Al Michaels were just saying that, you know, yeah
about Rogers and they're meeting with Rogers and that they
would be really surprised if Aaron Rodgers was somewhere else
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that Aaron Rodgers said, things have gone as well as
they possibly could have gone, exceeded his expectations, relationships maybe
repaired with the front office here. H And so it
brings up a you know, a just a conversation, any
discussion that we have had for months on this show
where Brady feels like this could be the end for
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Aaron Rodgers and wean them. I mean, either way, somebody
you don't want to speak for Brady. I mean, Brady's
on he's here, yeah, and he's not like you're not here. Yeah,
Just you know, I just wanted to make sure, though
I was, somebody's gonna have to wear this one at
the end of all this, somebody on this show. Yeah,
next year when we get to figure out whether or
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not he's there or not, I mean, if you, I mean,
I'd rather LaVar speakcause he's on this side of it.
There's nothing really more to add to it. I just
think as as good as things have gone this year,
after the season, whatever that ends for Green Bay, whether
in a Super Bowl or not, there is still the
decision on what this organization is going to do moving
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forward with Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love. It's just a
matter of fact. And I think regardless of the outcome,
whether he wins a Super Bowl there with him this year,
which very well could happen or not, they're still gonna
have to come with a decision in regards to what
do they do with the guy they drafted and traded
up to get in the first round, And then what
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are they what are they first see moving forward? You know,
does does Aaron come back to them and say, you know,
I could play this game until I'm forty four years
old like Tom Brady and and be the league MVP,
which it looks like Tom Brady is going to be
the league MVP. I think by the way, he'd be
like the oldest league MVP by four or five years
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in all a professional sports. Like he's doing stuff we've
never seen in any sport ever before. So if Aaron
can convince them of that and and they want to
redo it his contract again, sure sure. But I just
I think there's still that conversation of how do you
put the toothpaste back in the tube of the Jordan
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Love draft pick? And what do you do with that?
Moving forward. Yeah, I think the execution of of what
Aaron Rodgers has done all the way up to this point.
And I said, he had to play well for for
what he was trying to pull off in my estimation,
to work for the conversation to even get to a
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point of where al Michaels and collins Worth would even
champion the conversation. I mean, and here's the reason why.
And again just just you know, for for the sake
of it being you know, a spectator of the game.
They took almost like an entire segment talking about it,
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and and it just made it just sparked it. It
re sparked it in me, like got you know, I
had moved on from it. Um and it's kind of
it is going to be a wait and see what happens.
But I just thought that it was interesting because if
you really are paying attention to the way Aaron you know,
manipulates his messaging, his branding, how he does things, he
adverts total total uh you know, catastrophe in terms of
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things that could happen to his reputation. Um, you know,
in terms of things that could really derail even though
you know, in a lot of ways the media wants
to get something on him to begin with, but he
seems to advert the total power on that could take
place and some of the things that he does, but
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it all fits a bigger plan for what he's trying
to do. Now, whether things pan out the way that
you know, it's it looks like it's it's being manipulated,
it remains to be seeing super It's super entertaining to
me because I feel like Aaron Rodgers did everything he did.
I don't. I don't know what his motivations are. I don't.
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I'm not pretending to have any type of inside information.
It is just purely me looking at how he says things,
or how he does things, or at the timing of it.
I think it was too ultimately stay in green Bay
and as ultimately to have what he wanted to stay
in green Bay. And I just found it to be
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interesting that now, you know, you talk about the breakup,
we were talking about the inevitable breakup that's going to
take place, but then on a national on the national stage,
you have to to respect it. And and two credible
guys having the conversation like, look, we're not trying to
make news here, and they made that the point, But
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it did sound as though the conversation that they were
having with Aaron Rodgers really seemed like this is a
guy that wants to stay in Green Bay. I guess
the my my counter to that would be, is he
gonna sit in that production meeting and talk to him
about how he's playing on leaving after the year. I mean,
the reality is maybe he doesn't need to to open
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up and and say anything in particular about that, right,
But but I would just say, in the moment of it,
I don't know many people who are very open about
what their intentions are if they are intending to leave afterwards.
And again, I don't know that he knows what he's
gonna do. Like I think there's a real reality here
where the contract that was renegotiated before the season was
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one in which where it now opens him up to
leave if he wants to, and if he chooses to
come back, he could now you'd think that they would
have to renegotiate it, right, But I think that's at
this point, I'm not sure he even knows what he
wants to do moving forward. Maybe the organization doesn't just
think the overwhelming amount of people who put a Bow
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on it before the season even started, that this is it.
I think that it's now starting to unfold and shape
in a different way where it can't be a definitive
he's gone. The one thing that collins Worth said that
that I don't agree with is that he was pointing out,
you know, you know, he was in uh he had
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some drama obviously with the COVID stuff, the immunization whatever
you want to call it, and all that, and he said,
you know, maybe he now you know, has a better
appreciation for Green Bay because you know, and maybe seeing
all the publicity got etcetera. It's like Aaron Rodgers said
this from the get go. His issues aren't with Green Bay.
He loves green Bay, he loves the fan base, he
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loves all that. It's the people within the front office
that he's got the issue with, and those people are
still there. So so that's why I still kind of
lean in towards I think he's going to be gone
at the end of the season. I think this is
it for him, and whether he you know, he knows
that a d percent or not. If I were betting
on this right now, I would bet that he's gone.
That he's not The other thing is the people who
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I think he has the biggest issue with are the
people who speak the least during the season, right, and
that's Mark Murphy, their president. And I don't think he
has a bad relationship with Brian guten Kunz, but you know,
they're their general manager. I mean, he was the one
that kind of came out and the way he talked
about when Aaron decided to come back, that relationship. It
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wasn't very glowing. It wasn't like thorny bouquets at it.
I think we tend to have short term memories, so
we kind of forget the openness at which you know,
Aaron spoke with when he first got back. And I
think if you're looking at it from an organizational standpoint,
they dodged a bullet with you know, the lack of
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punishment if you were or however you want to describe
it about the press conference, the immunization comment and how
that was taken and then how what what protocols were
broken moving forward? I mean, let's be real about it.
It put their organization in what could have been a
really tough spot, a bad spots. So the people who
you know, I think are are ultimately going to speak
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in the off season more or you're here from them
more are the ones that you're not hearing from right now,
and I think those are the ones that you want
to gauge their interests from. You know, everyone's gonna have
their opinion on this. The only people who know are
Aaron Rodgers and you know, the people who represent them,
and obviously Mark Murphy and Bryan Couton comes. Yeah, I
agree with that, but I will say this, what goes
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more into the discussion point of Aaron Rodgers being in
the right direction or being on the right side of
what what's going to play out, is directly associated with
how the immunization situation played out and took place. That's
a that's an amazing opportunity for the front office to
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gain some ground on him. They didn't have to, It
didn't have to come out the way. In fact, if
he didn't get caught up with COVID, we wouldn't even
known that this is what was going on. The organization.
No organization could have either forced him to get the
immune get to the vaccine, or if you're not forcing
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him to get the vaccine, we're not covering for you.
They can't force me right, understandable. So you're not covering
for him, though, is what I'm saying. Either you're getting
a vaccination or you're not walking around here acting as
though you you've been vaccinated. You see what I'm saying
is that was an opportunity for that front office and
that organization to say, here is an easy this is
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an easy one for us to discredit Aaron Rodgers. It
ultimately came out anyway, and now it makes you look
like you're in cahoots with Aaron because he's walking around
without a vaccination but carrying things that if you were called.
The reason why the media had such a problem with
this whole situation was that Aaron Rodgers was walking around
and doing things as if he had the vaccinations. That
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was the whole argument, because they kept it under wraps.
You think that they were sort of I mean, think
about it, that's that's common sense to me. If you
got if you got to tax the grind with, I'm
you're not going to walk around like that. I do
wonder if maybe there's a degree of it that they
didn't know either, But maybe how can they not know, Well,
it's personal health information, and so that information then needs
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to be taken from your your insurance provider and then
then spread to your employer. You know, they have to
ask for your permission to do so. But then the
idea that is is that the the whole percentage of
guys that are vaccinated, where's that coming from? And the
protocols that you're supposed to take in terms of how
many times you test, where you had masks on all
of those different things. They had to have known. It's
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it's an nfl P A issue too though, you know,
And so I don't I don't know what rites that.
You know, he wanted to keep privating all that. Again,
only they know what happened behind closed doors. But you know,
to to further that point, like I just look at
and say, well, what were they going to do? They
probably got to a certain points who are like, what
do you you're gonna you know, force him to be
in this position? Is that? Is that what's best organist?
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If you think about it, He forced them into a
position about doing the press confidence the way that he did.
So what I'm saying is is they could that could
have easily given them an opportunity to give to their
fan base and get to the national media a situation
where that man said I was immunized, and it was
it was well because that could keep them out of
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the way now instead of when it when the COVID
hit him. Now it's it's it's an Aaron Rodgers situation,
not a Green Bay Packers. And they don't look compliant
with what what is correct. They look like they were
in I just I I think overall they've they've taken
the approach and Rogers, to a certain extent, has taken
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an approach of hey, let's play nice this year. We
we both want to win a Super Bowl. Let's play nice.
And and if things start to if we start to
go back and forth in the media, then that's just
gonna cause problems. I think their soulful focus is trying
to wint to see. Anyone that's ever been in a
long term relationship knows that sometimes you gotta break up
to make up. Anybody knows it. Like makeup make up
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time is sometimes the best time spent. Why why did
you do that? Why did you do that? Make up time?
It's sometimes way more intense and I don't know better,
I don't see, don't see many people get divorce to
get back together. But some but some have some have
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they haven't. They haven't. They haven't gone through the divorce yet.
They're talking about the divorce. They haven't. Some people, you know,
I mean, people get separated. Yeah, people get separated. There
is a song isn't meThe man. There's an old school
song that you gotta you gotta break up to make up,
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an old song. I forget what but but the bottom
line is they have not divorced yet. They have not
divorced yet that this could be considered to be a
separation period of time to the separation has been filed.
It's there. But sometimes that you know, a separation is
meant for you to realize, am I really ready to
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go through with this fully? Are we really ready to
transition into the divorce stage of it all? So to me,
I feel like Aaron Rodgers from my my vantage point,
it's trying to leverage a separation in order to help
them to realize that we do not need to go
through fully with the divorce and the and the makeup
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the makeup. Uh. Time could be even better than what
this season is presenting right now in them having some
good moments as a franchise winning games and him seemingly
having fun telling teams he owns them in different things
like that. It's like, uh, Aaron is still very attractive
to me, Like we have things that we can work through.
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We we have our shortcomings and we have this, but
you know what, I'm willing to work through that. I
feel like that's what Colin's worth and al Michael's were
baited into eating the apple from the tree. What's the
alternative are they gonna say? Like, hey, you know, he
seems really unhappy. I mean, it's just the alternative is
you don't you can you can pick a hundred different
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storylines to go with He's how how many storylines are
there with Chicago Bears. Yeah, but but I agree, I
totally agree. I totally agree. But if you again, you
and I both know the one thing that you don't
want to do is throw your credibility in harm's way.
So to have the conversation about it, and that the
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way that they did, like they championed it. They didn't
just throw it out there like I wonder what this
could be? Got that size it was out you know, listen,
they're gonna they're not gonna have to worry about throwing
their credibility in any harm's way when they're calling his
games in Denver next year. That's I'm just saying that,
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you know, Denver a lot of shows. Maybe I'm not.
I am a sore loser, and I'm a sore winner
as well. I'm a horrible winner. Think about this. I
mean what we're talking about Dance Snyder and the Washington
football team next Like we're still talking about this and
we don't really need to until next year. We're ultimated scene.
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It's gonna be made. There's a lot that's actually good
to talk about these things ahead of time, Like we
had a Heisman Trophy presentation that is true. There's there's
all these things we can talk about, and this is
what we're talking about again, it's a lot riding on this. Man, Listen,
some show lading all right, And I wanted to hear
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Brady say that, Yeah, alright, well it is what it's
been my stance the entire time, Like none of this matters.
We can say whatever we want until the off season,
like that's what will actually be able to figure out.
Amazing They're going to be amazing plays out. Man. I
can't wait because he's right, it's going to be amazing
the hairdy sound bites. If the weird thing is is
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like has the hardest time eating when he just swings
and misses. Yes, that is true. I know it's true.
We'll never call you out for it. But it's like
my job did we didn't. We didn't, we didn't list
off the things so far that we've been a little
off base off, like all those chiefs are looking now,
all those chiefs looking at great pool, Brady. And in fact,
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I admitted that on our text chain yesterday, thank you.
But you know I didn't bring that up because I'm
not a snitch Brady snitching of stitching on Jesus. Okay,
how are you mom? Big older brother? Oh, brother said
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exceptionally common sense. All right, coming up next, Uh, there's
a team that might be the most disappointing in the league.
If things continue to go this way, we'll get to
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team that could be the was disappointing in the NFL
after what we saw yesterday. I tried to make cookies
over the weekend with my wife. There's nobody worse like
left handed cookies. No, no, there's hell yeah, it's left
handed cookies. Yeah, we're far with me. You can do cookies.
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You could do butter, you could you could cook your
steak and left handed butter. We meant that we're coach
signing onto the left handed thing. I just you know,
i'd just like to stay away from like you know, yeah, yeah,
I mean, it's the only hand I use. It's my
dominant a right to drive my car. Yeah, all right,
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to take on blockers, Yeah right, I mean, uh, just
you know, just butter butter shifting football, yeah, exhift gears.
I I would have to be you know, in Jamaica
or or in you know, you know, overseas. There's you
know where the handles are on the the you know,
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the staining wheels on the opposite side. There's not a
worse baker in the country than me. After when I
learned on sand did you burn them? Now? I didn't
burn them. I just didn't understand that with like sugar cookies,
they expand to a certain extent, and so I thought
I had space them all. I don't know, but those
those no, no, those expand bigger. Those expand, those expand
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bigger than than like gingerbread cookies. Yeah, the correct answer
is yes, go ahead, forget it now. It's all good.
Sugar cookies expand differently than the other ones. I did
not understand that, so I figured that I had them
spaced out properly. The next thing, you know, they all
joined together and it was a giant cake, sugar cookie cake. Yeah.
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But but see. But when you try to cook cookies
and it ends up being a cake enjoyed as a
sugar cookie cake, threw it away through a wasteful person.
I would have put some icing on there. I would
have cut it up like in little blocks, and I
would have ate that bad boy like it was. Broke
it over my knee, threw it out the door. Yeah,
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you're a temper tandrum dude, man, bo action over here
out of my face. You ever tried to break over
your leg? Yeah, it's a lot harder, I thought. I thought,
who the hell would that really hurt my leg? You
tried it? I tried. It didn't break. No, you know
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I got little legs. No, it didn't break. Yeah, well listen,
and I hit it on the thinnest part of the shaft.
I was holding that that would and I had the
thinnest part of the shaft of the bat, and I tried,
I hit that thing, boom off my knee and I
was like, ah, didn't break. What about the bat? Yeah? Alright,
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uh coming up fifteen minutes from now, we're going to
have another edition of a segment we don't have a
name for. That's that's what we got for you how
we didn't have a name for this segment. We're still
efforting that. We're we've got the creative juices flowing trying
to come up with this. But Brady Quinn has identified
some stories that need a little bit of attention and
conversation and uh, we're still working on something, still working
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on a name, to be honest with you, So there's that.
Anybody got any suggestions or you want to have that
conversation another time and uh just get to uh. Alvin
Kamara had an amazing game yesterday. Yeah, man, I mean
it was amazing stiff competition there. Man, maybe we should
call the segment Alvin Camara moves that works. Um, the
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Buffalo Bills. I was just trying to figure out what
I was. I was attempting. Yeah, I didn't worried about. Yeah,
the Buffalo Bills. Are they the most disappointing team in
the NFL. They're turning into it, that's for certain, because
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they got a problem. Um they now they made it
a game yesterday. Of course they lost in overtime at Tampa,
but we saw what happened on Monday night against the Patriots.
Now the Buffalo Bills find themselves one game over five hundred.
Josh Allen was in a walking boot. They're they're hanging
onto the seven spot. And this was a team that
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a lot of people assumed we're going to make the step.
They found their quarterback, They've got this great roster. They
were in the a f C title game last year. Yeah, Brady,
here we are Week fourteen and they've lost again. And
now they find themselves in a real dog fight trying
to trying to stay paced with everybody else and stay
in that seven spot in the a f C Wild
Card picture. I think the thing that stands out to
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me about them is, I mean, in this case, you
know how big of a game this was, but they
get off to a slow start offensively and then defensively.
I keep going back this like they cannot stop the run.
You know, for Net had what over a hundred yards rushing.
I think it was averaging like almost six yards an attempt.
Like that's a problem, especially when you get into this
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louder portion of the year, and if you're playing in Buffalo,
like this is a team that, um, you know, at
least it's still in contention for their division, and if
they win their division, they're gonna be a host in
the playoff game. But if you can't stop the run
and you can't run the football and you playing a buffalo,
like no, it's just it's a bad formula. And I
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think to answer your question, I don't know that I'm
there yet to say they're the most disappointing. But if
if they all of a sudden start to fall by
the waistide at seven and six, now, if they ended
up not making the playoffs, like yeah, I think you
would put them in the category for most disappointed. Give
them that. They were one of the favorites in the
a f C to go to a Super Bowl and
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they didn't make the postseason. So it's they're a bad
little lied if you will. Right now, they've lost two
in a row, three the last four, and it doesn't
look good. The good news is they've got the Panthers,
Falcons and Jets still remaining on the schedule. I believe
they had the highest ceiling of the teams that are underachieving.
So whether you find them to be the most disappointing
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or not, they are certainly a team that's struggling that
probably coming into the season had the highest ceiling for
achievement as a team and and for a player, you know,
you're looking at the quarterback and you're saying to yourself,
for certain that that Josh Allen is an m v
P caliber guy. Maybe claims that this year for certain,
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the way that defense has played now that the offense
is giving more, that the you know, the ceiling is
super high. And I think that that's the biggest kind
of you know, disappointment of it all is you expected
a lot more out of them. And we were talking
on Tuesday after that Monday night game last week against
the pat it and and Brady you pointed out like
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you were surprised that you didn't see Josh Allen uses
legs more, that that wasn't an option. It seemed like
yesterday there was a concerted effort that a right away,
if something breaks down doesn't look right, use your legs
and get out. And and he had a good game.
He fought his ass off, but again in the walking boot.
We don't know how healthy he's gonna be moving forward,
but it seemed like he was really their only threat
on the ground offensively. Yeah, and that's I mean, I
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don't know if they're gonna have to try to continue
to keep going that route. But it's this, it's too
late in the season I think to be able to
make sort of some sort of adjustment, we're gonna say
we're gonna find our running game. Now it just doesn't
happen like that. And I think he's too valuable to
their entire formula to risk running him too much. So, uh,
you know, you're at that point of the season where
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you gotta find ways of getting the most you can
out of your run game. I think defensively though, if
I'm Sean McDermott, like, that's what I'm most bothered by that.
That's what you know he got the job for in
Buffalo was you know, he got it because of his
defensive prowess. Now it's now we got to actually see
that come to fruition. So you know, again I have
to take a deeper dive look at it schematically. But
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that's the biggest problem I think I see with them
right now is their defense just isn't as good as
I think it needs to be in order for them
to be one of those teams we talked about winning
a Super Bowl. I mean, we can say whatever we
want about the Chiefs and the Patriots. But those two
teams right now, the way their defense is planned, they
don't got any problems. I mean, like, those two teams
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defensively are playing about as good as anyone in the
a f C right now. You can't say that about
the Bills. Yeah, and they're highly rated. That's the thing
about it is that you look at their rankings, it's
like bad, How are they not better than what they
are right now? But they're not. And and it doesn't
seem as though the leaking has stopped. They got to
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stop the bleeding um now, not not later, not not
at another point. If they want to to be any
type of competitive team moving forward into the playoffs, they've
got to stop what's going on right now. They gotta
address it to the tune of what Brady said, they
(29:07):
gotta be able to stop the run and you gotta
be able to run the ball. And those are the
two things that if they can add those two elements,
they can improve their season because they'll be able to
find their passing game. Again. It's a two pros and
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y you aren't mad, are you? Are? You? Bang to
Banger to Holiday Banger. At least you guys got some
(30:32):
company in the studio. You know, definitely had an audience.
Man that that's not a cockroach that's a Rottweiler. H
night vision Brady. We signed the camera on and his
eyes was glowing like a like a cat or or
like an animal. Out he looks at us like what
(30:55):
are we doing here? Right? Like this is his domain.
So Lee was ready to get him, and I told
him Peter was watching and we didn't need to do that.
Be careful. We need to get him up out of here.
Is like save him, you know, preserve him. So so
shots out to Johnny Cocker roach roach, Yeah, very good. Yeah,
(31:17):
we we we let him go. We put him back
out in the streets. You know, he was for the streets.
He'll be back in. Don't save him. He don't want
to be saying no, you got to turn him over
to the streets. Yeah. I think he'll be all right,
it's gonna be Oh, he's gonna find his way. Those
things can make it through what like a nucleculear holocaust? Yeah,
cockroaches can yeah, yeah, yeah, they said what they said
(31:39):
the two things that would make it would be cockroaches
and alligators. I believe. So it can make it through
a nuclear holocaust, but it can't make it through like
a size eleven Nope. But they probably could. It's like
I said, you spread their their eggs around when you
squash them, so and in theory you might get some
some new ones coming once you smash it. That's That's
(32:02):
like like Michael Straighthand going to space. It doesn't make
any sense people people buy that crap. Which one would
you thought have been harder Urban Meyer to win as
a professional coach or Michael Straighthand to go to space
in ten minutes and back. Well, one's believable and one's not. Yeah,
I'll answer your question. I think winning with Jacksonville right now,
(32:24):
I really, I really do. I really do feel like
that's the harder feat probably honest. All right, So, so
we don't have a we don't have a name for
this segment, which means we don't have an intro or
an open. We are still efforting that, which is very
unprofessional as as a morning show here on Fox Sport Trader,
especially a professional morning show professional broadcasters. Uh, but Brady
(32:45):
Quinn has got some stories that he would like to
discuss and uh and so yeah, well it has to
be this music. I mean, this is I'll just I'll
just segue right into it. You know, Jonas mentioned one
of the stories and so what just we'll get it
out there. Michael Strahan he went to space. I kind
of I think I know how Jonas feels about this.
(33:07):
My first question is would you want to go if
you got invited to go on one of the many
and what is there? There's multiple now right there, You've
got Jeff bezos Is I'm just called a cross rocket
because that's what it looks like. And then you've got
the bills, the bills, Yeah, bills deal, Yeah, you got
(33:31):
his Richard Branson's um and so you've got would you
take the opportunity to go if someone was to pay
your way or give you the free ride. I've already
been skydiving, was never skydive, but I would be curious
to take a trip into space. It's it's person. These
guys don't realize that they're getting clowned. Like so you
(33:53):
all of a sudden, you can just go to space
and be back in ten minutes, like all of a sudden,
Like I mean, it's a technicality, but yeah, technically you're
in space. You're you're you're you have no gravitational point.
You can't get in and out of seven eleven and
under ten minutes. It was just like when the dud
you're funny. It's just like when the dude sky daft
from outer space back into the stratosphere. You remember, like
(34:13):
like that dude passed out for a minute, right, I
mean I don't know, I know he had to get
through that heat before, you know. I just it's such
I think it's doable. I mean, think about how long
did it take for that sky diver they get back
to Earth. What do they consider space? Top of the
luxe or all? Right? Like what are we talking about?
Like what does consider spray? Is zero gravity? Zero gravity?
(34:35):
You're in space, I think, because you've got to clear
the what is that called the atmosphere the stratosphere, and
on top of it, and on top on top of
all of it, you're going you're going up in a
rocket that looks like what we pointed out was thrown
on the field at the Bill's Patriots game a couple
of years ago, two years and around Bills. I would
love to ride that show. Well listen, like if if
(34:57):
I actually wanted that, I checked my top. But I
like this idea, yeah, this, yes, this idea is this
this idea? So you can just all always just go
to space like the Great Space Race from the sixties
and the cosmonauts and and and Soviet Union in the US.
(35:19):
But now you can just go to space in a
cross rocket in ten minutes and be back down. It's
b S scrap, come back, Let's let let's move on
with this. Last week, this could be a quick one
for US. Jesse small Lett verdict came out, he was
still setting five or six stars to bring it back up.
We are any anything from anyone? Yeah, I mean, I
(35:40):
just I can't understand why his lawyers are saying they're
going to appeal it and they need more clearity on
why small lett story was not believable. I'm confused. I
really am thoroughly confused. I mean, I'm trying to figure
it out, Like does he ever get like what is
his future now? Gonna do? You know? He got cast
(36:01):
into another show if he's got a comedy, yes, he's working.
If they've got a comedic bone in their body, they
make him the host of Chasing Bigfoot. God, why not
if we're gonna do, think people, I think people will
watch it because it's like can be done doing He's
done doing reality TV though? Oh yeah, yeah, that's wrap
(36:24):
or making or making making me the new subway sponsor
and you know the new other new face of subway.
That would be a good look. Well. I like to
chasing Bigfoot for many different reasons. I think there are
a lot of things we could draw from that, a
lot of different storylines that could be drawn up and
developed out of Chasing Bigfoot. Alright, one last story. Jesse
(36:46):
Smolett Juicy Store, Juicy Um. New York firefighters rescued a
naked man who was stuck in a bathroom wall for
several days. I mean, what part of him was stuck
him the wall? It seemed like there's enough of him
where he couldn't get out. He was it was stuck
for days? Now did they did they arrest? Did they
(37:07):
arrest the person on the other side of the wall too?
I feel like I feel like we saw this on
the dot com before. I'm just just taking just taking
a stand at it. You got to be more careful
when you use your walls. Lamar pulled that up on
the computer two days ago. So many guys. Fox Sports
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(01:02):
football here as we wind down week four team. We've
got a Monday night game coming up later on tonight.
Playoff races are starting to shape up. By the way,
howbout the fact that the Indianapolis Colts didn't play and
are now the sixth seed in the a f C.
So that was a pretty productive weekend for the Indianapolis
Colts where all of a sudden making some noise. Good
for Indivan But that Carson, yeah, I agree, Let everybody
(01:28):
else take this out. Bear should try that spectator I
work better for him, all right, you gotta win a
couple of games for for that to work. Well, that's true. Um.
So the so the green Bay Packers win last night,
we talked about just you know, some of the rumors,
you know, the Bears side of things, like green Bay
gets it done. Aaron Rodgers says afterwards that his toe
(01:50):
has actually gotten worse, whatever that means. Um. But Chris
Collinsworth made a comment when they were talking about it
late in the game because the game was obviously a
blowout and not a whole lot going on, and him
and Al Michaels were just saying that, you know, yeah
about Rogers and they're meeting with Rogers and that they
would be really surprised if Aaron Rodgers was somewhere else
(02:11):
that Aaron Rodgers said, things have gone as well as
they possibly could have gone, exceeded his expectations, relationships maybe
repaired with the front office here. H And so it
brings up a you know, a just a conversation, any
discussion that we have had for months on this show
where Brady feels like this could be the end for
(02:32):
Aaron Rodgers and wean them. I mean, either way, somebody
you don't want to speak for Brady. I mean, Brady's
on he's here, yeah, and he's not like you're not here. Yeah,
Just you know, I just wanted to make sure, though
I was, somebody's gonna have to wear this one at
the end of all this, somebody on this show. Yeah,
next year when we get to figure out whether or
(02:53):
not he's there or not, I mean, if you, I mean,
I'd rather LaVar speakcause he's on this side of it.
There's nothing really more to add to it. I just
think as as good as things have gone this year,
after the season, whatever that ends for Green Bay, whether
in a Super Bowl or not, there is still the
decision on what this organization is going to do moving
(03:15):
forward with Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love. It's just a
matter of fact. And I think regardless of the outcome,
whether he wins a Super Bowl there with him this year,
which very well could happen or not, they're still gonna
have to come with a decision in regards to what
do they do with the guy they drafted and traded
up to get in the first round, And then what
(03:37):
are they what are they first see moving forward? You know,
does does Aaron come back to them and say, you know,
I could play this game until I'm forty four years
old like Tom Brady and and be the league MVP,
which it looks like Tom Brady is going to be
the league MVP. I think by the way, he'd be
like the oldest league MVP by four or five years
(03:59):
in all a professional sports. Like he's doing stuff we've
never seen in any sport ever before. So if Aaron
can convince them of that and and they want to
redo it his contract again, sure sure. But I just
I think there's still that conversation of how do you
put the toothpaste back in the tube of the Jordan
(04:20):
Love draft pick? And what do you do with that?
Moving forward. Yeah, I think the execution of of what
Aaron Rodgers has done all the way up to this point.
And I said, he had to play well for for
what he was trying to pull off in my estimation,
to work for the conversation to even get to a
(04:41):
point of where al Michaels and collins Worth would even
champion the conversation. I mean, and here's the reason why.
And again just just you know, for for the sake
of it being you know, a spectator of the game.
They took almost like an entire segment talking about it,
(05:01):
and and it just made it just sparked it. It
re sparked it in me, like got you know, I
had moved on from it. Um and it's kind of
it is going to be a wait and see what happens.
But I just thought that it was interesting because if
you really are paying attention to the way Aaron you know,
manipulates his messaging, his branding, how he does things, he
adverts total total uh you know, catastrophe in terms of
(05:26):
things that could happen to his reputation. Um, you know,
in terms of things that could really derail even though
you know, in a lot of ways the media wants
to get something on him to begin with, but he
seems to advert the total power on that could take
place and some of the things that he does, but
(05:46):
it all fits a bigger plan for what he's trying
to do. Now, whether things pan out the way that
you know, it's it looks like it's it's being manipulated,
it remains to be seeing super It's super entertaining to
me because I feel like Aaron Rodgers did everything he did.
I don't. I don't know what his motivations are. I don't.
(06:07):
I'm not pretending to have any type of inside information.
It is just purely me looking at how he says things,
or how he does things, or at the timing of it.
I think it was too ultimately stay in green Bay
and as ultimately to have what he wanted to stay
in green Bay. And I just found it to be
(06:28):
interesting that now, you know, you talk about the breakup,
we were talking about the inevitable breakup that's going to
take place, but then on a national on the national stage,
you have to to respect it. And and two credible
guys having the conversation like, look, we're not trying to
make news here, and they made that the point, But
(06:50):
it did sound as though the conversation that they were
having with Aaron Rodgers really seemed like this is a
guy that wants to stay in Green Bay. I guess
the my my counter to that would be, is he
gonna sit in that production meeting and talk to him
about how he's playing on leaving after the year. I mean,
the reality is maybe he doesn't need to to open
(07:11):
up and and say anything in particular about that, right,
But but I would just say, in the moment of it,
I don't know many people who are very open about
what their intentions are if they are intending to leave afterwards.
And again, I don't know that he knows what he's
gonna do. Like I think there's a real reality here
where the contract that was renegotiated before the season was
(07:32):
one in which where it now opens him up to
leave if he wants to, and if he chooses to
come back, he could now you'd think that they would
have to renegotiate it, right, But I think that's at
this point, I'm not sure he even knows what he
wants to do moving forward. Maybe the organization doesn't just
think the overwhelming amount of people who put a Bow
(07:56):
on it before the season even started, that this is it.
I think that it's now starting to unfold and shape
in a different way where it can't be a definitive
he's gone. The one thing that collins Worth said that
that I don't agree with is that he was pointing out,
you know, you know, he was in uh he had
(08:18):
some drama obviously with the COVID stuff, the immunization whatever
you want to call it, and all that, and he said,
you know, maybe he now you know, has a better
appreciation for Green Bay because you know, and maybe seeing
all the publicity got etcetera. It's like Aaron Rodgers said
this from the get go. His issues aren't with Green Bay.
He loves green Bay, he loves the fan base, he
(08:39):
loves all that. It's the people within the front office
that he's got the issue with, and those people are
still there. So so that's why I still kind of
lean in towards I think he's going to be gone
at the end of the season. I think this is
it for him, and whether he you know, he knows
that a d percent or not. If I were betting
on this right now, I would bet that he's gone.
That he's not The other thing is the people who
(09:00):
I think he has the biggest issue with are the
people who speak the least during the season, right, and
that's Mark Murphy, their president. And I don't think he
has a bad relationship with Brian guten Kunz, but you know,
they're their general manager. I mean, he was the one
that kind of came out and the way he talked
about when Aaron decided to come back, that relationship. It
(09:23):
wasn't very glowing. It wasn't like thorny bouquets at it.
I think we tend to have short term memories, so
we kind of forget the openness at which you know,
Aaron spoke with when he first got back. And I
think if you're looking at it from an organizational standpoint,
they dodged a bullet with you know, the lack of
(09:43):
punishment if you were or however you want to describe
it about the press conference, the immunization comment and how
that was taken and then how what what protocols were
broken moving forward? I mean, let's be real about it.
It put their organization in what could have been a
really tough spot, a bad spots. So the people who
you know, I think are are ultimately going to speak
(10:04):
in the off season more or you're here from them
more are the ones that you're not hearing from right now,
and I think those are the ones that you want
to gauge their interests from. You know, everyone's gonna have
their opinion on this. The only people who know are
Aaron Rodgers and you know, the people who represent them,
and obviously Mark Murphy and Bryan Couton comes. Yeah, I
agree with that, but I will say this, what goes
(10:25):
more into the discussion point of Aaron Rodgers being in
the right direction or being on the right side of
what what's going to play out, is directly associated with
how the immunization situation played out and took place. That's
a that's an amazing opportunity for the front office to
(10:45):
gain some ground on him. They didn't have to, It
didn't have to come out the way. In fact, if
he didn't get caught up with COVID, we wouldn't even
known that this is what was going on. The organization.
No organization could have either forced him to get the
immune get to the vaccine, or if you're not forcing
(11:06):
him to get the vaccine, we're not covering for you.
They can't force me right, understandable. So you're not covering
for him, though, is what I'm saying. Either you're getting
a vaccination or you're not walking around here acting as
though you you've been vaccinated. You see what I'm saying
is that was an opportunity for that front office and
that organization to say, here is an easy this is
(11:28):
an easy one for us to discredit Aaron Rodgers. It
ultimately came out anyway, and now it makes you look
like you're in cahoots with Aaron because he's walking around
without a vaccination but carrying things that if you were called.
The reason why the media had such a problem with
this whole situation was that Aaron Rodgers was walking around
and doing things as if he had the vaccinations. That
(11:51):
was the whole argument, because they kept it under wraps.
You think that they were sort of I mean, think
about it, that's that's common sense to me. If you
got if you got to tax the grind with, I'm
you're not going to walk around like that. I do
wonder if maybe there's a degree of it that they
didn't know either, But maybe how can they not know, Well,
it's personal health information, and so that information then needs
(12:13):
to be taken from your your insurance provider and then
then spread to your employer. You know, they have to
ask for your permission to do so. But then the
idea that is is that the the whole percentage of
guys that are vaccinated, where's that coming from? And the
protocols that you're supposed to take in terms of how
many times you test, where you had masks on all
of those different things. They had to have known. It's
(12:35):
it's an nfl P A issue too though, you know,
And so I don't I don't know what rites that.
You know, he wanted to keep privating all that. Again,
only they know what happened behind closed doors. But you know,
to to further that point, like I just look at
and say, well, what were they going to do? They
probably got to a certain points who are like, what
do you you're gonna you know, force him to be
in this position? Is that? Is that what's best organist?
(12:58):
If you think about it, He forced them into a
position about doing the press confidence the way that he did.
So what I'm saying is is they could that could
have easily given them an opportunity to give to their
fan base and get to the national media a situation
where that man said I was immunized, and it was
it was well because that could keep them out of
(13:21):
the way now instead of when it when the COVID
hit him. Now it's it's it's an Aaron Rodgers situation,
not a Green Bay Packers. And they don't look compliant
with what what is correct. They look like they were
in I just I I think overall they've they've taken
the approach and Rogers, to a certain extent, has taken
(13:41):
an approach of hey, let's play nice this year. We
we both want to win a Super Bowl. Let's play nice.
And and if things start to if we start to
go back and forth in the media, then that's just
gonna cause problems. I think their soulful focus is trying
to wint to see. Anyone that's ever been in a
long term relationship knows that sometimes you gotta break up
to make up. Anybody knows it. Like makeup make up
(14:05):
time is sometimes the best time spent. Why why did
you do that? Why did you do that? Make up time?
It's sometimes way more intense and I don't know better,
I don't see, don't see many people get divorce to
get back together. But some but some have some have
(14:26):
they haven't. They haven't. They haven't gone through the divorce yet.
They're talking about the divorce. They haven't. Some people, you know,
I mean, people get separated. Yeah, people get separated. There
is a song isn't meThe man. There's an old school
song that you gotta you gotta break up to make up,
(14:47):
an old song. I forget what but but the bottom
line is they have not divorced yet. They have not
divorced yet that this could be considered to be a
separation period of time to the separation has been filed.
It's there. But sometimes that you know, a separation is
meant for you to realize, am I really ready to
(15:08):
go through with this fully? Are we really ready to
transition into the divorce stage of it all? So to me,
I feel like Aaron Rodgers from my my vantage point,
it's trying to leverage a separation in order to help
them to realize that we do not need to go
through fully with the divorce and the and the makeup
(15:31):
the makeup. Uh. Time could be even better than what
this season is presenting right now in them having some
good moments as a franchise winning games and him seemingly
having fun telling teams he owns them in different things
like that. It's like, uh, Aaron is still very attractive
to me, Like we have things that we can work through.
(15:55):
We we have our shortcomings and we have this, but
you know what, I'm willing to work through that. I
feel like that's what Colin's worth and al Michael's were
baited into eating the apple from the tree. What's the
alternative are they gonna say? Like, hey, you know, he
seems really unhappy. I mean, it's just the alternative is
you don't you can you can pick a hundred different
(16:17):
storylines to go with He's how how many storylines are
there with Chicago Bears. Yeah, but but I agree, I
totally agree. I totally agree. But if you again, you
and I both know the one thing that you don't
want to do is throw your credibility in harm's way.
So to have the conversation about it, and that the
(16:39):
way that they did, like they championed it. They didn't
just throw it out there like I wonder what this
could be? Got that size it was out you know, listen,
they're gonna they're not gonna have to worry about throwing
their credibility in any harm's way when they're calling his
games in Denver next year. That's I'm just saying that,
(17:00):
you know, Denver a lot of shows. Maybe I'm not.
I am a sore loser, and I'm a sore winner
as well. I'm a horrible winner. Think about this. I
mean what we're talking about Dance Snyder and the Washington
football team next Like we're still talking about this and
we don't really need to until next year. We're ultimated scene.
(17:20):
It's gonna be made. There's a lot that's actually good
to talk about these things ahead of time, Like we
had a Heisman Trophy presentation that is true. There's there's
all these things we can talk about, and this is
what we're talking about again, it's a lot riding on this. Man, Listen,
some show lading all right, And I wanted to hear
(17:41):
Brady say that, Yeah, alright, well it is what it's
been my stance the entire time, Like none of this matters.
We can say whatever we want until the off season,
like that's what will actually be able to figure out.
Amazing They're going to be amazing plays out. Man. I
can't wait because he's right, it's going to be amazing
the hairdy sound bites. If the weird thing is is
(18:04):
like has the hardest time eating when he just swings
and misses. Yes, that is true. I know it's true.
We'll never call you out for it. But it's like
my job did we didn't. We didn't, we didn't list
off the things so far that we've been a little
off base off, like all those chiefs are looking now,
all those chiefs looking at great pool, Brady. And in fact,
(18:28):
I admitted that on our text chain yesterday, thank you.
But you know I didn't bring that up because I'm
not a snitch Brady snitching of stitching on Jesus. Okay,
how are you mom? Big older brother? Oh, brother said
(18:50):
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team that could be the was disappointing in the NFL
after what we saw yesterday. I tried to make cookies
over the weekend with my wife. There's nobody worse like
left handed cookies. No, no, there's hell yeah, it's left
handed cookies. Yeah, we're far with me. You can do cookies.
(20:24):
You could do butter, you could you could cook your
steak and left handed butter. We meant that we're coach
signing onto the left handed thing. I just you know,
i'd just like to stay away from like you know, yeah, yeah,
I mean, it's the only hand I use. It's my
dominant a right to drive my car. Yeah, all right,
(20:49):
to take on blockers, Yeah right, I mean, uh, just
you know, just butter butter shifting football, yeah, exhift gears.
I I would have to be you know, in Jamaica
or or in you know, you know, overseas. There's you
know where the handles are on the the you know,
(21:09):
the staining wheels on the opposite side. There's not a
worse baker in the country than me. After when I
learned on sand did you burn them? Now? I didn't
burn them. I just didn't understand that with like sugar cookies,
they expand to a certain extent, and so I thought
I had space them all. I don't know, but those
those no, no, those expand bigger. Those expand, those expand
(21:33):
bigger than than like gingerbread cookies. Yeah, the correct answer
is yes, go ahead, forget it now. It's all good.
Sugar cookies expand differently than the other ones. I did
not understand that, so I figured that I had them
spaced out properly. The next thing, you know, they all
joined together and it was a giant cake, sugar cookie cake. Yeah.
(21:56):
But but see. But when you try to cook cookies
and it ends up being a cake enjoyed as a
sugar cookie cake, threw it away through a wasteful person.
I would have put some icing on there. I would
have cut it up like in little blocks, and I
would have ate that bad boy like it was. Broke
it over my knee, threw it out the door. Yeah,
(22:19):
you're a temper tandrum dude, man, bo action over here
out of my face. You ever tried to break over
your leg? Yeah, it's a lot harder, I thought. I thought,
who the hell would that really hurt my leg? You
tried it? I tried. It didn't break. No, you know
(22:40):
I got little legs. No, it didn't break. Yeah, well listen,
and I hit it on the thinnest part of the shaft.
I was holding that that would and I had the
thinnest part of the shaft of the bat, and I tried,
I hit that thing, boom off my knee and I
was like, ah, didn't break. What about the bat? Yeah? Alright,
(23:01):
uh coming up fifteen minutes from now, we're going to
have another edition of a segment we don't have a
name for. That's that's what we got for you how
we didn't have a name for this segment. We're still
efforting that. We're we've got the creative juices flowing trying
to come up with this. But Brady Quinn has identified
some stories that need a little bit of attention and
conversation and uh, we're still working on something, still working
(23:23):
on a name, to be honest with you, So there's that.
Anybody got any suggestions or you want to have that
conversation another time and uh just get to uh. Alvin
Kamara had an amazing game yesterday. Yeah, man, I mean
it was amazing stiff competition there. Man, maybe we should
call the segment Alvin Camara moves that works. Um, the
(23:50):
Buffalo Bills. I was just trying to figure out what
I was. I was attempting. Yeah, I didn't worried about. Yeah,
the Buffalo Bills. Are they the most disappointing team in
the NFL. They're turning into it, that's for certain, because
(24:10):
they got a problem. Um they now they made it
a game yesterday. Of course they lost in overtime at Tampa,
but we saw what happened on Monday night against the Patriots.
Now the Buffalo Bills find themselves one game over five hundred.
Josh Allen was in a walking boot. They're they're hanging
onto the seven spot. And this was a team that
(24:31):
a lot of people assumed we're going to make the step.
They found their quarterback, They've got this great roster. They
were in the a f C title game last year. Yeah, Brady,
here we are Week fourteen and they've lost again. And
now they find themselves in a real dog fight trying
to trying to stay paced with everybody else and stay
in that seven spot in the a f C Wild
Card picture. I think the thing that stands out to
(24:52):
me about them is, I mean, in this case, you
know how big of a game this was, but they
get off to a slow start offensively and then defensively.
I keep going back this like they cannot stop the run.
You know, for Net had what over a hundred yards rushing.
I think it was averaging like almost six yards an attempt.
Like that's a problem, especially when you get into this
(25:14):
louder portion of the year, and if you're playing in Buffalo,
like this is a team that, um, you know, at
least it's still in contention for their division, and if
they win their division, they're gonna be a host in
the playoff game. But if you can't stop the run
and you can't run the football and you playing a buffalo,
like no, it's just it's a bad formula. And I
(25:35):
think to answer your question, I don't know that I'm
there yet to say they're the most disappointing. But if
if they all of a sudden start to fall by
the waistide at seven and six, now, if they ended
up not making the playoffs, like yeah, I think you
would put them in the category for most disappointed. Give
them that. They were one of the favorites in the
a f C to go to a Super Bowl and
(25:56):
they didn't make the postseason. So it's they're a bad
little lied if you will. Right now, they've lost two
in a row, three the last four, and it doesn't
look good. The good news is they've got the Panthers,
Falcons and Jets still remaining on the schedule. I believe
they had the highest ceiling of the teams that are underachieving.
So whether you find them to be the most disappointing
(26:18):
or not, they are certainly a team that's struggling that
probably coming into the season had the highest ceiling for
achievement as a team and and for a player, you know,
you're looking at the quarterback and you're saying to yourself,
for certain that that Josh Allen is an m v
P caliber guy. Maybe claims that this year for certain,
(26:40):
the way that defense has played now that the offense
is giving more, that the you know, the ceiling is
super high. And I think that that's the biggest kind
of you know, disappointment of it all is you expected
a lot more out of them. And we were talking
on Tuesday after that Monday night game last week against
the pat it and and Brady you pointed out like
(27:01):
you were surprised that you didn't see Josh Allen uses
legs more, that that wasn't an option. It seemed like
yesterday there was a concerted effort that a right away,
if something breaks down doesn't look right, use your legs
and get out. And and he had a good game.
He fought his ass off, but again in the walking boot.
We don't know how healthy he's gonna be moving forward,
but it seemed like he was really their only threat
on the ground offensively. Yeah, and that's I mean, I
(27:24):
don't know if they're gonna have to try to continue
to keep going that route. But it's this, it's too
late in the season I think to be able to
make sort of some sort of adjustment, we're gonna say
we're gonna find our running game. Now it just doesn't
happen like that. And I think he's too valuable to
their entire formula to risk running him too much. So, uh,
you know, you're at that point of the season where
(27:44):
you gotta find ways of getting the most you can
out of your run game. I think defensively though, if
I'm Sean McDermott, like, that's what I'm most bothered by that.
That's what you know he got the job for in
Buffalo was you know, he got it because of his
defensive prowess. Now it's now we got to actually see
that come to fruition. So you know, again I have
to take a deeper dive look at it schematically. But
(28:05):
that's the biggest problem I think I see with them
right now is their defense just isn't as good as
I think it needs to be in order for them
to be one of those teams we talked about winning
a Super Bowl. I mean, we can say whatever we
want about the Chiefs and the Patriots. But those two
teams right now, the way their defense is planned, they
don't got any problems. I mean, like, those two teams
(28:26):
defensively are playing about as good as anyone in the
a f C right now. You can't say that about
the Bills. Yeah, and they're highly rated. That's the thing
about it is that you look at their rankings, it's
like bad, How are they not better than what they
are right now? But they're not. And and it doesn't
seem as though the leaking has stopped. They got to
(28:46):
stop the bleeding um now, not not later, not not
at another point. If they want to to be any
type of competitive team moving forward into the playoffs, they've
got to stop what's going on right now. They gotta
address it to the tune of what Brady said, they
(29:07):
gotta be able to stop the run and you gotta
be able to run the ball. And those are the
two things that if they can add those two elements,
they can improve their season because they'll be able to
find their passing game. Again. It's a two pros and
a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next,
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a little bit of love, a little bit of love
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(29:29):
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(30:11):
Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, hey, hey, hey,
y you aren't mad, are you? Are? You? Bang to
Banger to Holiday Banger. At least you guys got some
(30:32):
company in the studio. You know, definitely had an audience.
Man that that's not a cockroach that's a Rottweiler. H
night vision Brady. We signed the camera on and his
eyes was glowing like a like a cat or or
like an animal. Out he looks at us like what
(30:55):
are we doing here? Right? Like this is his domain.
So Lee was ready to get him, and I told
him Peter was watching and we didn't need to do that.
Be careful. We need to get him up out of here.
Is like save him, you know, preserve him. So so
shots out to Johnny Cocker roach roach, Yeah, very good. Yeah,
(31:17):
we we we let him go. We put him back
out in the streets. You know, he was for the streets.
He'll be back in. Don't save him. He don't want
to be saying no, you got to turn him over
to the streets. Yeah. I think he'll be all right,
it's gonna be Oh, he's gonna find his way. Those
things can make it through what like a nucleculear holocaust? Yeah,
cockroaches can yeah, yeah, yeah, they said what they said
(31:39):
the two things that would make it would be cockroaches
and alligators. I believe. So it can make it through
a nuclear holocaust, but it can't make it through like
a size eleven Nope. But they probably could. It's like
I said, you spread their their eggs around when you
squash them, so and in theory you might get some
some new ones coming once you smash it. That's That's
(32:02):
like like Michael Straighthand going to space. It doesn't make
any sense people people buy that crap. Which one would
you thought have been harder Urban Meyer to win as
a professional coach or Michael Straighthand to go to space
in ten minutes and back. Well, one's believable and one's not. Yeah,
I'll answer your question. I think winning with Jacksonville right now,
(32:24):
I really, I really do. I really do feel like
that's the harder feat probably honest. All right, So, so
we don't have a we don't have a name for
this segment, which means we don't have an intro or
an open. We are still efforting that, which is very
unprofessional as as a morning show here on Fox Sport Trader,
especially a professional morning show professional broadcasters. Uh, but Brady
(32:45):
Quinn has got some stories that he would like to
discuss and uh and so yeah, well it has to
be this music. I mean, this is I'll just I'll
just segue right into it. You know, Jonas mentioned one
of the stories and so what just we'll get it
out there. Michael Strahan he went to space. I kind
of I think I know how Jonas feels about this.
(33:07):
My first question is would you want to go if
you got invited to go on one of the many
and what is there? There's multiple now right there, You've
got Jeff bezos Is I'm just called a cross rocket
because that's what it looks like. And then you've got
the bills, the bills, Yeah, bills deal, Yeah, you got
(33:31):
his Richard Branson's um and so you've got would you
take the opportunity to go if someone was to pay
your way or give you the free ride. I've already
been skydiving, was never skydive, but I would be curious
to take a trip into space. It's it's person. These
guys don't realize that they're getting clowned. Like so you
(33:53):
all of a sudden, you can just go to space
and be back in ten minutes, like all of a sudden,
Like I mean, it's a technicality, but yeah, technically you're
in space. You're you're you're you have no gravitational point.
You can't get in and out of seven eleven and
under ten minutes. It was just like when the dud
you're funny. It's just like when the dude sky daft
from outer space back into the stratosphere. You remember, like
(34:13):
like that dude passed out for a minute, right, I
mean I don't know, I know he had to get
through that heat before, you know. I just it's such
I think it's doable. I mean, think about how long
did it take for that sky diver they get back
to Earth. What do they consider space? Top of the
luxe or all? Right? Like what are we talking about?
Like what does consider spray? Is zero gravity? Zero gravity?
(34:35):
You're in space, I think, because you've got to clear
the what is that called the atmosphere the stratosphere, and
on top of it, and on top on top of
all of it, you're going you're going up in a
rocket that looks like what we pointed out was thrown
on the field at the Bill's Patriots game a couple
of years ago, two years and around Bills. I would
love to ride that show. Well listen, like if if
(34:57):
I actually wanted that, I checked my top. But I
like this idea, yeah, this, yes, this idea is this
this idea? So you can just all always just go
to space like the Great Space Race from the sixties
and the cosmonauts and and and Soviet Union in the US.
(35:19):
But now you can just go to space in a
cross rocket in ten minutes and be back down. It's
b S scrap, come back, Let's let let's move on
with this. Last week, this could be a quick one
for US. Jesse small Lett verdict came out, he was
still setting five or six stars to bring it back up.
We are any anything from anyone? Yeah, I mean, I
(35:40):
just I can't understand why his lawyers are saying they're
going to appeal it and they need more clearity on
why small lett story was not believable. I'm confused. I
really am thoroughly confused. I mean, I'm trying to figure
it out, Like does he ever get like what is
his future now? Gonna do? You know? He got cast
(36:01):
into another show if he's got a comedy, yes, he's working.
If they've got a comedic bone in their body, they
make him the host of Chasing Bigfoot. God, why not
if we're gonna do, think people, I think people will
watch it because it's like can be done doing He's
done doing reality TV though? Oh yeah, yeah, that's wrap
(36:24):
or making or making making me the new subway sponsor
and you know the new other new face of subway.
That would be a good look. Well. I like to
chasing Bigfoot for many different reasons. I think there are
a lot of things we could draw from that, a
lot of different storylines that could be drawn up and
developed out of Chasing Bigfoot. Alright, one last story. Jesse
(36:46):
Smolett Juicy Store, Juicy Um. New York firefighters rescued a
naked man who was stuck in a bathroom wall for
several days. I mean, what part of him was stuck
him the wall? It seemed like there's enough of him
where he couldn't get out. He was it was stuck
for days? Now did they did they arrest? Did they
(37:07):
arrest the person on the other side of the wall too?
I feel like I feel like we saw this on
the dot com before. I'm just just taking just taking
a stand at it. You got to be more careful
when you use your walls. Lamar pulled that up on
the computer two days ago. So many guys. Fox Sports
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