January 8, 2026 • 42 mins
In Hour 3 of the show the guys chat it up with Albert Breer as they ponder if Matt Lafleur would be available for teams should the Packers lose. Plus, the guys have fun with a LeBron edition of the Leftovers and more!
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Speaker 5 (02:05):
Morning, fun music, music, good luck, good luck, Ohio State alone.
Speaker 8 (02:14):
I know, no, no, no, I'm still good and I'm all good.
I'm trying to figure out who's gonna be on our
team next year watching all this happen.
Speaker 9 (02:22):
What what happened to you guys in that game?
Speaker 10 (02:24):
By the way, didn't we cover this last week?
Speaker 8 (02:27):
I was trying to figure that out. We did? For
I think we did cover it?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Can you tell me?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Can you can you tell me? I'm a Big tenor
you're a Big tenner, you know.
Speaker 10 (02:36):
Yeah, I don't think there's any secret.
Speaker 8 (02:39):
You know, Miami won game at line of scrimmage and
you know, like Ruben Days a heck of a football player,
that that offensive that right tackle they have is a
brick wall. And you know, we'll see how it looks
tonight against Old miss But yeah, I mean, I mean
LeVar LeVar is a line of scrimmage game, right, and
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Miami won that game in the line of script.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I could dig it. I could dig it.
Speaker 9 (03:07):
Gohead. Who you're rooting for? Miss?
Speaker 8 (03:12):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 10 (03:13):
I mean, well, I'm rooting for the Big Ten teams.
Speaker 8 (03:15):
So like whether it's Indiana or Oregon, Like I I
hope the Big Ten brings home another championship. That'd be
three in a row, right.
Speaker 10 (03:22):
You know what's interesting though, So.
Speaker 8 (03:24):
If Miami wins tonight, that would be three straight years
with no SEC team in the title game.
Speaker 10 (03:31):
Right.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Well yeah, but they're the best conference right right?
Speaker 10 (03:35):
Well, yeah, it just means more.
Speaker 8 (03:37):
It's uh, you know when they when when they don't
win games or they don't win you know that they
don't win in the playoffs, that's just because they weren't
trying right like, right, So well.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Then there's the other adage.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
They try to stack the deck with five teams to
get him in because they want to make sure they
show that their conference is the best. And meanwhile, through
the playoff in bull season, we've seen that's clearly not
the case.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
Yeah, they're the deepest unless they choose not to win
the bowl games, right like, because that's that's the only way.
Either the bowl games show how strong the SEC was
or they weren't taking the ball game seriously, so those
don't count.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Yeah, they're the only team that has opt outs. There's
no other team that has opt outs. It's just SEC
teams in that conference.
Speaker 8 (04:20):
But Brady, they are. They're undefeated in hypothetical games.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
That is correct.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
They've won the last national championships in hypothetical games.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
That's right.
Speaker 10 (04:29):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Well, let's talk about what's going on in Baltimore. You know,
obviously Harball and the Ravens mutually agree to part ways.
Do you have any insight that isn't maybe being discussed
or maybe just was obvious that you know, led to
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this the demise of Harrball.
Speaker 8 (04:55):
So I think like.
Speaker 10 (04:57):
It's just sort of maybe run its course.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
I think there are a couple things to look at here, LeVar.
I think the first thing is the level of expectation
coming into the year, right, which there were people in
that building who felt like this might be the best
roster we've had in a couple of decades.
Speaker 10 (05:12):
And they've had some really good.
Speaker 8 (05:13):
Teams there over the years, but they really felt like
this was the team, right and so you know.
Speaker 10 (05:20):
There are there are reasons.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
The record wasn't great, and you know, you lose Lamar
for a chunk of the season that's going to obviously
contribute to it. They had a rash of injuries there
for a few weeks, think it was in October when
they hit the kids, and so there's reasons for it.
But you finished eight and nine and you had a
chance to get in the playoffs and you don't do it. So,
you know, not living up to expectations in a year
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when the expectations were sky high internally, I think is
part of it. The other piece of it that I
think you know is and I know this has been
there's been a lot of back and forth on this
over the last couple of days. So I'm going to
do my best to clarify it. As far as I know,
I do think John Harry as a players coach, and
I think if you talk to the people who've played
for him, most of them love him, right, And he's
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been over the years adaptable, He's changed schemes, he's he's
adjusted the way he does things. The thing about it, though,
is that I think, and I think Jim's this way too,
but John certainly is. It just takes a certain type
of player to play in his program. Right. It's a tough,
demanding program. And listen, he will listen to his players,
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he will cater to his players, he will make things
work for his players from a scheme standpoint.
Speaker 10 (06:34):
He'll do everything as players need.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
But I think it just takes a certain type of
guy to play in that program. And for years and
years and years and years he had it in Baltimore,
and I'm just not sure over the last couple of
years that it was quite the same, you know, and
and and look like you can lay the blame up
for that on a bunch of different things, but I
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just it just felt like, you know, when you talk
to people about the way this was towards the end
of the year, there might have been a little bit
more of a disconnect there and just do the players
that we have now, who are really good players, but
do the players that we have now match up with
the program the same way it was say five years
ago or ten years ago. And so, you know, I
(07:21):
think that's sort of you know, where those discussions went over,
you know, the afternoon that he and Steve Bashatti sat
down and met, and you know, obviously the decision, you know,
that they arrived at was that it was just time
for everybody to move on after eighteen years. And I
don't think there's any acrimony there. I think he's going
to be you know, obviously his name is going to
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be up in the Ring of Honor in Baltimore someday.
And there were a lot of players in that locker
room who were very sad to see him go. But
I just I just feel feel like for that reason
this that they decided that this was time.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
A couple of things we talked about or have been
talking about, is the contract situation for Lamar.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
He's got a huge cap hit.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah, in twenty twenty six, they obviously have to restructure
that he doesn't have any representation and it's just kind
of wondering because there was times where it felt like
the media was trying to pit it like basically being.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Lamar or John Harbaugh.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
And if that's the case, I mean obviously Lamar won out,
or at least he was, you know, ultimately who ended
up surviving this. Yeah, but what do you make of
kind of moving forward, like what this is going to
look like as far as the coach they're going to
prong to coach him, and then what the contract's going
to look like?
Speaker 8 (08:32):
Yeah, So like let's start with the contract, because I
do think that affects the play, right, Like, And I
had somebody point out to me that somebody who knows
this situation pretty intimately point out to me that, you know,
like Lamar, the years when he's missed time due to
injury have been years when he's when the contract's been uncertain, right,
(08:55):
So twenty one, in twenty two and then this year,
right and.
Speaker 10 (09:00):
Then and and and and it's just.
Speaker 8 (09:02):
I mean it's just something that that's that those are facts, right, Like,
so that's out there. So like I think part of
this for the Ravens is all right, like are we
going to do a new contract with him? Which they
they looked at the idea of doing it in the
lost off season after Josh Allen got his contract. Correction,
they don't do it, they get like a little bit
of a diminished version of Lamar. And I think, you know,
(09:25):
now the question for the Ravens has to be if
we don't do because again, because the way he plays
the position is so different, you know, and and and
he's taken on so much more damage than than most
quarterbacks of his level of experience have. If we don't
do a contract with him, are we going to get
a diminished version of them? Are we going to have
(09:45):
another sideways year?
Speaker 10 (09:47):
And so I think those are all questions you have
to ask.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
You do fifty two million dollars this coming year, most
of it's guaranteed. He's do fifty two million dollars in
twenty twenty seven. None of that's guaranteed. So that's what's
fucks on his contract.
Speaker 10 (10:00):
So do you go back?
Speaker 5 (10:01):
You got a seventy four and a half million dollar
capet this year, right.
Speaker 10 (10:05):
And and do you do you go so do you
go in?
Speaker 8 (10:08):
Do you go in and say, yep, you're going to
be our quarterback for the next four or five years,
because that's what you're gonna have to like, that's what
you're going to be looking at. Right, do you go
in and do you do that right and say, okay,
like we're gonna we're going to do a deal you
know that's going to have like an average, a new
money average of sixty five million dollars and commit to
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you for the next four or five years based on
some of the you know again like the historic amount
of damage he's taken on just in the way that
he plays the position and what you got this year.
And you know, like if that contract negotiation goes to
little sideways and that becomes public.
Speaker 10 (10:48):
At all, like okay, like now are the Raiders.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
Calling or the Dolphins calling? You know, are you getting
calls from different teams organically? You know, like is that
just happening? And how do you respond to all that?
So I think all that's complicated, and you know, the
first step and kind of showing Lamar where you stand
with all of this is going to be the hiring
of the head coach. So does this caused you to
look a little bit more at offensive coaches?
Speaker 10 (11:13):
You know, offensive min mined coaches who you know.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Are going to be working directly with Lamar, Like, these
are all questions that I think we have to ask
based on the history between the team and the player.
And Lamar's obviously been an unbelievable player there.
Speaker 10 (11:28):
Two time MVP.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
But you know, with with John Harbaugh gone, now like
I think you know, the next question becomes okay, and Brady,
you asked it, the next question becomes okay, like now
that John's gone, with Lamar's future.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Here it's Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Get him on x.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
At Albert Breer, Abe, what have you heard, if anything
about coaches coaching this weekend in the NFL that with
a loss could be a name to watch as a
potential casualty.
Speaker 10 (12:06):
I mean, I think a lot of people.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Are going to be looking at Tomlin just because of
what just happened with Harbaugh. I don't think it's like
on the Steelers' minds right now, like the idea.
Speaker 10 (12:17):
Like okay, like are we moving on?
Speaker 8 (12:20):
But I do think like that's again like naturally going
to come up as part of the conversation when you're
talking about potentially you know, turning the page of quarterback.
Speaker 10 (12:29):
If that's what happens.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
You know, I don't think you know, it's one hundred
percent that Aaron's not coming back, that Aaron's retiring, but
you know, like you obviously have to prepare, prepare for
the eventuality of that. And you know, if you don't
have Aaron Rodgers's your quarterback? Who's your quarterback? And what
does that mean for some of the older players on
your team? You know, like a Jalen Ramsey, you know
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Cam Hayward? You know, is is is t J? Watt back?
You know, like if you're if you're starting over at quarterback,
you know, or there's not like a clear answer at
quarterback going into next year? You know, do you listen
if somebody calls on t J.
Speaker 10 (13:09):
Watt?
Speaker 8 (13:09):
You know?
Speaker 10 (13:10):
Like so I think I think that like when you.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Get to that point where you're going to be going
through that with all of your older players, the natural
question attached to that is like, okay, like if Mike
Tomlin going to be the one that's going to rebuild
this and if you're Tomlin, wouldn't you say, Okay, would
I rather go through this? I I'm certain to be
a quarterback, Or do I want to go do TV
for a year, And if I go do TV for
a year, maybe I come back in twenty twenty seven
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and I go to a place with a quarterback and I,
you know, I get a I have a great second
act there. You know. I think these are all These
are all questions that could be asked, you know, whenever
they get eliminated but they're still in it. But that
will be the one that I would look at and say, Okay,
like if there's someone coming out of this weekend, that'd
be the most obvious one where you might see a change.
Speaker 10 (13:57):
Are you looking at the other ones and thinking something
could happen?
Speaker 9 (14:01):
But maybe McDermott, Yeah, McDermott would be one.
Speaker 10 (14:05):
Would be the one.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
Yeah, So McDermott would be the one. Yeah, I think
like that one. So I think there's a lot of
pressure on a lot of people there because of the
position that they're in, right, and because there's no Lamar Jackson,
there's no Joe Burrow, there's no Patrick Mahomes in the
AFC playoffs, right, So you basically like removed what's prevented
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the Bills from from getting to the Super Bowl over
the last five.
Speaker 10 (14:33):
Or six years, and so you know, certainly there's.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Pressure on everyone to maximize where they're at right now
with Josh Allen.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
So like, I don't think the internal.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Conversation has risen to the level of like, yeah, we're
going to move on from him, but like I do
think like that natural pressure is there. And the comparison
I've made, guys is to Tony Dungey in Tampa twenty
five years ago, you know, and like if you remember,
if you remember, like Tony Dungee and when I was
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a kid, and you know LeVar Brady, Like I mean,
you guys remember this, Like the Bucks were about as
big a laughingstock as there was in all of sports.
They were terrible and Tony but Tony Dungee got there
and he completely changed the face of.
Speaker 10 (15:19):
The organization and he won, and.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
He got the playoffs and they were knocking on the door.
Speaker 10 (15:26):
And eventually, like with that corps.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Of defensive players, you're Derek Brooks, Warren Sapp, John Lynch,
Rende Barber, you know, ownership looked at it says like
we have to maximize this, and they kind of felt
the clock ticking on that. And despite everything that Tony
Dungee had done for them.
Speaker 10 (15:44):
You know, eventually got to the point where like, okay, okay,
we have to do something.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
And I think it was after he'd been there for
seven years. They wind up blocking away. They pursued Bill Parcells,
they don't wind up getting him.
Speaker 10 (15:53):
They traded for John Cruden and obviously they won the.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
Super Bowl the next year, And so are the Bills
at that point with Sean McDermott. Would be the biggest
question I would have, you know, and are they going
to get to that point where you know, it's a
little different.
Speaker 10 (16:07):
But it's the same, right Like.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
Where in Tampa was you have this group of players
is creating this opportunity.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
To a peep for a championship, and man like, we
better take advantage of it while we have it.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
You know. Obviously in Buffalo it's a single player. It's
Josh Allen, you know. I mean, we'll see what happens.
I I think, like if they lose in ugly fashion
to Jacksonville on Sunday, I mean, I guess I wouldn't
rule out the idea of the dynamic had change there.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
What about come on, man, why are we until you're
talking about how Yeah, this has been happening a lot lately.
By the way, we've been saying the same exact stuff
at the same exact it's crazy.
Speaker 9 (16:52):
All right, But what about La Floor, what about the
go Packers?
Speaker 8 (16:56):
Yeah, so I think with that, with that one, it's contractual,
right like, so they have a negotiation coming with him,
and so there's a contractual part of it. And you know,
i'd say with the new team president there, it does
create a little less certainty where you know, Mark Murphy
was there for almost twenty years and then Mark Murphy
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hired Matt Lafleur, and the Policy is now the president.
So you know, like that.
Speaker 10 (17:23):
Transition happened over the summer. It was an internal hire.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
So it's not like ed Policy doesn't know Matt Lafleur.
Speaker 10 (17:30):
But the fact that he decided.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
Not in the moment to extend Lafleur and the general manager,
Brian Guducuns at least leaves open the possibility that there.
Speaker 10 (17:43):
Could eventually be a change. And you know, I think.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
What's interesting about Lafleur is the.
Speaker 10 (17:50):
Connections he has to Matt Ryan, And you know.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
I sort of wonder if like the Falcons wind up
doing what everybody think's going to do, which is, you know,
they've got their interviews for the president role today and tomorrow.
And if everybody, if they do what everybody thinks we're
going to do, which is hire Matt Ryan over the
weekend as a president football offs and Matt Ryan, you know,
(18:15):
I think, winds up hiring somebody like Ian conningh Aamason
as a general manager. Do they look at it and say,
you know, we want to do something bold? And you
guys know who Matt Ryan's position coach was here?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You wanted to a good call? Yeah, Matt Lafleur.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
Yeah, so Matt Lafleur was there. So I mean, if
you're Matt Ryan and you're saying, okay, like we want
to we want to do something that's going to make
a splash and kind of establish us, do you pick
up the phone to call the Packers if they lose
this weekend and say like, hey, like what would it
take for us to get him out of there?
Speaker 9 (18:52):
You know?
Speaker 8 (18:54):
And if if the Packers are in a position where
they're saying like, well, we're not sure we want to
do a contract right now with laf do they listen
and they have a guy on their staff and Jeff Hafley,
who's going to be sought after to be a head coach,
and maybe they think a lot. It's just there's this
sliding doors thing. So I don't think they're going to
fire Lafloor, but I do think like the contract situation
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being what it is, could create some of these moving
parts and we'll see what happens. Again. Again, I don't
think he I don't think he's going to get fired
if they lose over the weekend, But could there be
a scenario or something like that that happens. I certainly
think so, because there aren't a ton of obvious candidates now.
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There are more now than there were a couple of
weeks ago with Harbaugh Stefanski out there, but there aren't
like these obvious candidates. We're like, yes, that guy has
slammed unk. So I do think some of these teams
are going to have to think a little bit more creatively.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Albert, I want to ask you about the timing of
what you just said. Matt Ryan's involvement with the Falcons
predated the Rich McKay firing, and so I wasn't clear
or what his position or role would be.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
But now you're saying he's interviewing for the president.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
It's president of football operations. So they haven't correct.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
But they had already announced that he was going to
be joining the organization before that.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
No, they haven't announced anything yet.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
He's interviewing, he's he's he's interviewing. So they have four
guys in, four other guys in over the next two days.
I know what you're saying, but they haven't announced anything.
So so Matt's not part of the organization yet.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Like he's actually support then they just knew that they
were going to tab him at some point.
Speaker 10 (20:34):
All right, Well, what I think?
Speaker 8 (20:35):
What Jay? I don't want to put words in Jay's
mouth that I think Jay reported.
Speaker 10 (20:38):
When when it initially came out, I want.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
To say Jay reported that they were looking at bringing
him into the organization in some capacity. It was it
was pretty gray in that way. It wasn't it wasn't
black and white.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Interesting.
Speaker 9 (20:51):
Uh, they they retained bowls in Tampa.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
We asked the question earlier, does he go into next
season as a lame duckhead coach?
Speaker 11 (21:02):
What say you? I, Well, they've already extended him, so
lame duck like by the by the letter of what
that means.
Speaker 10 (21:12):
No, he's not lame duck because he.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
He did just get an extension. But I do think
that there's pressure on him. I think there's pressure on
a lot of people there. I mean, you know, I
I think like one of the big questions I'd have
going forward is like what they're going to do with
Baker Mayfield now, because he's like twenty twenty six is
a contract here for Baker. So I think we were
(21:34):
all thinking, like in September and October, of course they're
going to resign him, and I think they still will.
But is that a little bit more difficult of a
negotiation now based on how the last you know, two
months of the season went, it might be you know.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
So.
Speaker 10 (21:51):
Yeah, I mean I think if if.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
You're taught Todd Bowles, the fact that like, and you know,
I always feel this way guys, right, Like it's like
the same thing with like what Indianapolis did with Shane
Stike and Chris Dollard. When there needs.
Speaker 10 (22:06):
To be an announcement that the.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
Team is keeping you on, that means you're that means
you are on the hot seats going into the next year,
you know what I mean, Like, like for example, like,
the Patriots are not announcing that Mike Rabel will be
back next year, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (22:22):
The Bronxos, the Dolphins.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
Yeah, the Broncos are not announcing, but Mike McDaniel might
not be. I mean, I think that John harbaughton complicates that.
I mean, I I would say this with Mike McDaniel
in Miami, right, Like, So, they put out five interview
requests for general manager candidates on Monday, right, All five
of those guys had connections to McDaniel, All five of them, right,
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whether it was through McDaniel's friends or they'd worked with
McDaniel directly, they all had connections to McDaniels. Then on Tuesday,
the Dolphins turned around and put in an interview request
for the Chargers assistant general manager, Chad Alexander.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
Who does who would the Chargers assistant.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
General manager work with? Yep? So and so like do
you see that and say the Dolphins had like some
sort of tip off that John Harbaugh was about to
become available, So they're preparing themselves for the possibility that
they wind up with Harbor, which would mean that they.
Speaker 10 (23:33):
Would have to get a general manager that would line.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
Up with him, like I I can just tell you, you know,
Stee and Brady you were down there. You don't you
don't need me to tell you. Steve Ross, you know
has you know, has connections to the Harbaugh family, and
you know, he made a run at getting Jim in
I think it was two thousand and ten or eleven before.
Speaker 10 (23:55):
He went to the Niners. I think was two thousand,
I think it.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Was ten, tried to get him out of Stanford. It didn't,
it didn't. It didn't happen at a time, and then
you know, had had discussions about trying to get John.
I think it was in twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen
when the when the Ravens and Harbaugh weren't a contract negotiation.
So I would I would certainly not rule out the Dolphins.
Speaker 10 (24:18):
Making you know, a run.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
And the thing that's tricky about is like how do
you pull that off? You know what I mean? Like, so,
if you only are firing McDaniel, if you're going to
wind up with John, then you need to get a commitment,
a quiet commitment from John. So you have to have
had something worked out with.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
John and then you fire Mike and you've got.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
To satisfy the Rooney rule. It can be kind of
complicated to do that, but.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
You know, I would say I would.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Say that there's not a zero percent chance as that happens.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Wow, good stuff.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, Lead Content Strategies at the MMQB.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Get him on x at A. Yeah, we don't care
that they're eliminated.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
All right, you can keep playing the fight song.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
I don't know who's gonna be on the team, but
you got to keep.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
Playing the fight song.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, you're fine. Yeah, everything's it.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Seems like it seems like everything's happening in the transfer
port portal right now is super rational.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Huh Well, let me ask you this, like, how many
teams does that really worked out for? I mean, maybe
you'd say it has so far this year for Old
Miss and maybe some others, but I don't know. It's
Miami you got back. I mean, he hasn't been leading
the way and they had some of those guys.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Going on that I don't I don't think it's good
for the players either, to be honest with you, Like
I'm all four players getting paid, don't get me wrong,
but like I think this is gonna be so destructive,
destructive for the players too, And I yeah, I mean
it's just the whole thing is that the whole thing is.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
A complete mass, you.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
Know, right down to and I would say this too,
like I think it's in the long run, it's gonna
wind up affecting a lot of kids' ability to develop up.
And you know, like the NFL doesn't really develop you,
you know what I mean, Like unless you're a first
round pick or the two of you guys were, you know,
most guys that come into the NFL, you know, you're
(26:12):
instantly fighting for a job and they're not going to
give you four or five years to develop. And so
if you're not doing it in college, I don't know.
It just it seems like it's not good for the sport,
it's not good for the players. I know that there
are keep some people that are profiting for it but
from it. But it just feels to me like we
need to meet, we need to get ah, we need
(26:33):
to have somebody in charge, whether that's Nick Saban, whoever
else to to to to come in and be the
commissioner of college football and clean this mess up. Maybe
you could do it, Brady, what do you think well, first.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Off, you don't have the guard rolls that you need
up right now. I mean there's no no commissioner walking
right now is going to have any power because there's
no entity over top.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Of any of this that's going to start what's happening.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
So right until you have some sort of anti trust protection,
until you get to the point where like these guys
are viewed as employees or everyone define them and they
can work out a CBA, none of it matters because
they're just gonna take you to court every single time
and they're probably going to.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
Win, right right right, So anyway, rip college football? All right?
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Way to stick the landing. Uh, there is Albert Breer
with us here on Fox Sports Radio. Thinks AP would
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Speaker 1 (27:36):
You know what's going on tonight with that big game
that's almost hair well, we're talking about some Louisiana hot sauce,
that's right. Yeah, these players are made of grit, you know,
they have drive, a whole lot of heart, and so
does original Louisiana Hot sauce because it's may with real
(27:56):
good stuff too, you know, only like three simple ingredients
that make it special.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
In fact, I'm gonna make some ribs this morning.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And I'm going to use that Louisiana Hot sauce on
them to season them up, and I will actually mix
it into my own home special sauce for the finish.
Go imagine that I'm gonna mix a little something something
with a little dab of something something to go with
that original Louisiana Hot sauce.
Speaker 9 (28:25):
For my rub And you know what, you could do the.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Same exact thing on your wings, your pizzas, your gumbo.
You know, time seems to slow down when you use
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it's super simple. So listen, when you can't put your
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(28:49):
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And then you'll be okay with the conclusion that you
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and you'd be like, Wow, that Louisiana legacy. It's delicious,
(29:10):
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Louisiana Hot sauce is made of that championship level stuff.
Make sure you check out the peppers, the vinegar, and
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Make sure you bat you some.
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subplots or storylines you guys have identified in the Miami
Ole Miss matchup coming up later on tonight. I know
(30:38):
LeVar is all in. He wants Miami to win. I'm
all for America's team. I want Ole Miss to win.
I think it would be hilarious. I think it would
be It would just be appropriate to see this whole
thing play out, even though Lane Kiffin gets a paycheck
from each and every win as far as far as
Ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Keeps advancing as long as they do. So there is that.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
But anything else bout to you guys that you look
at and go something to watch, something.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
To Something that I think we need to figure out
moving forward is not having this game in Arizona.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
You know you've got Whole Miss in Miami.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
And I realized the National Championship, which is it's different,
It's it's bid on by different host cities. So it
just so happens that Miami is a game away from
playing what Quite honestly, again, I threw this out there like.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
A couple of weeks ago, or maybe a week ago.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
This might be the only time ever we see a
college football team play a national championship in their home stadium,
at least dating back to the days in which you
just and maybe before even bowl season, before they just
played a regular season schedule. Then people declared who won
the national championship. But it'd be pretty wild to see that.
But I want to go back to initial point. Like
(31:49):
you had Oregon Texas Tech playing in the Orange Bowl
in the quarterfinal, you now have the Fiesta Bowl hosting
Old Miss in Miami. Two let's just call them East
Coast in Miami, then Southeast in Old Miss or in
the South. It just logistically, it doesn't make sense for
the fans, it doesn't make sense for the teams.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
I understand the structure of the New Year six.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
There may be should be some more fluidy in it,
because here's the problem is, it's going to upset a
lot of fans and teams to the point where they
keep pushing to not have these bowl games involved at all.
So here, well, it may or it may not, right
because even if we expanded to a larger format, there's
still the New Year Six Bowls still continue to keep
(32:33):
you know, trying to stay a part of it, and
again being a part of one of them, I would
say they do a tremendous job. But I think the
one thing I look at this year and say it's
been an issue at least in my mind, is obviously
logistically getting the fans there, getting the teams there. Again,
I'm not smart enough to figure out the idea to
do it, but I think it doesn't bode well for
(32:55):
those the New Year Six if they can't figure out
a better process of figuring this all out. And furthermore,
I do think ESPN owns exclusively the rights to these
playoff games. They've leased some out to TNT, so you
saw that, but it's ESPN people, so it doesn't really
feel like.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
It's actually a T and T broadcast. I don't think
that's good for the sport either.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I think it's actually limited the perspective of how the
sport should be portrayed to one network. And I think
if you look at the NFL's presentation of the Super Bowl.
The NFL's presentation of the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
It's very much.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
More diverse and its approach, and I think it's better
for the sport overall. And in what way, Well, again,
like you can lend yourself to the theory of, you know,
we have a twelve team playoff, let's get five teams
in it because we've got, you know, that conference exclusively
the rights to it. So from a business standpoint, it's
(33:52):
behoof of them to put five teams in if you're
the committee that the Again, ESPN's kind of contry to
this whole thing. So instead of like the NFL, how
they dictate to all of the you know, the media
rights to all the TV networks and any of their partners,
that's not happening right now.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
It's ESPN that just has so you know, creative.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Pretty much, but you also have essentially and this is
one of the things that wedn't talked about it. Actually,
it is funny. It became like the talking point for
about Notre Dame and this whole Well, if they're in
the top twelve, they automatically get into the college football
playoffs starting in twenty twenty six, and that was language
that was put in for two reasons. One, it is
(34:38):
language that existed even dating back to the BCS. So
all these schools are people out there who didn't realize
that that existed.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
As an independent Notre Dame had got that in.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
It had been put in. It's been in there again
since the BCS. Now, it wasn't in there for the
fourteen playoff obviously, but once they expanded to twelve, and
once there was a thought this could go from twelve
to fourteen, that language.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Was then put in.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
So there's a called ANU, a memorandum of understanding, and
that's existed within it. Why it became public this year
is purely because someone wanted to put it out there
or a school was too ignorant to read it in.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
The first place.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
But the other reason why it was necessary or to
put in there was for scenarios that could potentially play
out in the future where based on the language of
the College Football Playoff, you'd be leaving out a team
that's ranked that high, but due to conference championships kind
of like this year, a team like James Madison gets in.
Where is that probably what's best for the sport. No,
(35:33):
it was fun and we can have that conversation, but
maybe we can be more inclusive if it gets to fourteen, sixteen,
twenty four.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I just wonder, and I know we're up on a break,
but my question would be, I thought it was it
was intelligent for Fox to invest in and own most
of the Big ten network. If Fox is considered to
be the Big ten networks represented of television and media rights,
(36:04):
and ESPN has the SECU, I don't really care about
the other ones. But between those two, you know, I
don't know about I think the Bowl games and my
estimation are in danger. I think they are just based
around the environment and the climate of the playoff. But
I just wonder what that conversation becomes. If I'm Fox
(36:28):
and I have, like we heard Albert say earlier, we're
we're on the cusp of the national title belonging to
the Big Ten for three consecutive years. If there is
an established amount of dominance, and what comes to the
table with the Big Ten, If I'm Fox, I'm telling you,
(36:52):
I got to walk in the room and I got
to throw it on the table at some point, they're
at some point like a game on to tell you
on the table that.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
They're Big ten let me peel back the layers a
bit more. What do you have in the semi finals?
You have an ACC representative an SEC representative on.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
One side, and two Big ten teams. So in essence
you have the exclusive rights. You have the.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Exclusive rights holders for the ACC and SEC, which are ESPN,
and then you have two Big ten teams. So Albert
pointed out the fact that like, hey, if you really
want to go through the numbers, the Big ten has
been better, you know, buy and large, but the narrative
hasn't been spun that because ESPN controls a lot of
the balls. ESPN controls a heavy portion of the games too.
They have rights in the Big twelve obviously exclusively SEC
(37:43):
and ACC. So when you really start kind of breaking
this down, they're the ones that drummed up this narrative
that the SEC is so deep, and they keep telling
their coaches, keep keep saying it, keep telling everyone, keep
telling what a gauntlet it is. And meanwhile that gauntlet
just goes away when they get the Bulls season and they.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Get the playoff.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
As we've seen it in the expanded Playoff, either they
either they don't show up or they don't match up
well with with their teams that you're seeing from the
Big Ten, and look, SEC fans will take issue with us,
but like these are facts. This isn't like an opinion
because it's what we've watched the past last year now
into this year. And so if you get a Big
Ten team winning it, if you get Miami beating Old
(38:19):
Miss and it's an ACC team versus a Big Ten team,
we know that from that side you have, once again
for three years straight, either a Big Ten team winning
it or at least in it and without an SEC
team being a part of it. And even the semi
finals it has been majority of Big Ten teams. So
this has been something that's I don't know to say,
it's like a dirty secret. But to your point, the
(38:39):
Big ten conference needs to do a better job of
really forcing because now this this the whole playoff system
has coming down to the Big Ten and SEC having
control and they ultimately dictate what it looks like moving forward.
And so it's it's really on the Big Ten to
say we need to bring in more network partners because
our conferences divided up more like the NFL, and that's
what we've become a professor model that should be presented
(39:01):
very much so where you get different perspectives and all
sorts of different people presenting it as opposed to a
lot of the bias that we've seen in particular this year.
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Speaker 3 (40:46):
Time to find out what's left Towns Incredible. Here's the
left over us Ry LARRAI, what we got?
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Well?
Speaker 13 (40:54):
I have some real investigative reporting for you guys, but
I'll save that for tomorrow. Because I'm a little short
on times. But bad news for the King Lebron James.
He will be ineligible for NBA awards if he misses
one more game, and he is likely to do so
because he said he isn't playing anymore back to backshm.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Okay, that's unfortunate. Oh he's getting a little older.
Speaker 9 (41:15):
He's getting a little up there.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
He's forty one, dude, he's ancient.
Speaker 9 (41:19):
YEAHBA standards getting a little up there.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
You've been playing well.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
I don't think you could pull Philip Rivers in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (41:27):
I don't know when's the last time we've seen that
someone comes back and plays at forty four after being
out for five years.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, if you can shoot, you might be able to
do it. But other than being able to shoot really well,
like where you could just get up and down, cork,
catch the ball, put it in the bucket. Other than that, yeah,
I don't think it's going to work. They don't play
defense anymore anyway in the NBA. Not really, So it's
(41:52):
not like you got to be able to guard anybody.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Okay, see do but yeah they do, but steal. If
you can shoot, you could be old hit Good luck.
Speaker 13 (42:01):
Lebron, don't get too stiff out there.
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Speaker 5 (02:05):
Morning, fun music, music, good luck, good luck, Ohio State alone.
Speaker 8 (02:14):
I know, no, no, no, I'm still good and I'm all good.
I'm trying to figure out who's gonna be on our
team next year watching all this happen.
Speaker 9 (02:22):
What what happened to you guys in that game?
Speaker 10 (02:24):
By the way, didn't we cover this last week?
Speaker 8 (02:27):
I was trying to figure that out. We did? For
I think we did cover it?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Can you tell me?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Can you can you tell me? I'm a Big tenor
you're a Big tenner, you know.
Speaker 10 (02:36):
Yeah, I don't think there's any secret.
Speaker 8 (02:39):
You know, Miami won game at line of scrimmage and
you know, like Ruben Days a heck of a football player,
that that offensive that right tackle they have is a
brick wall. And you know, we'll see how it looks
tonight against Old miss But yeah, I mean, I mean
LeVar LeVar is a line of scrimmage game, right, and
(03:01):
Miami won that game in the line of script.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I could dig it. I could dig it.
Speaker 9 (03:07):
Gohead. Who you're rooting for? Miss?
Speaker 8 (03:12):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 10 (03:13):
I mean, well, I'm rooting for the Big Ten teams.
Speaker 8 (03:15):
So like whether it's Indiana or Oregon, Like I I
hope the Big Ten brings home another championship. That'd be
three in a row, right.
Speaker 10 (03:22):
You know what's interesting though, So.
Speaker 8 (03:24):
If Miami wins tonight, that would be three straight years
with no SEC team in the title game.
Speaker 10 (03:31):
Right.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Well yeah, but they're the best conference right right?
Speaker 10 (03:35):
Well, yeah, it just means more.
Speaker 8 (03:37):
It's uh, you know when they when when they don't
win games or they don't win you know that they
don't win in the playoffs, that's just because they weren't
trying right like, right, So well.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Then there's the other adage.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
They try to stack the deck with five teams to
get him in because they want to make sure they
show that their conference is the best. And meanwhile, through
the playoff in bull season, we've seen that's clearly not
the case.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
Yeah, they're the deepest unless they choose not to win
the bowl games, right like, because that's that's the only way.
Either the bowl games show how strong the SEC was
or they weren't taking the ball game seriously, so those
don't count.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Yeah, they're the only team that has opt outs. There's
no other team that has opt outs. It's just SEC
teams in that conference.
Speaker 8 (04:20):
But Brady, they are. They're undefeated in hypothetical games.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
That is correct.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
They've won the last national championships in hypothetical games.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
That's right.
Speaker 10 (04:29):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Well, let's talk about what's going on in Baltimore. You know,
obviously Harball and the Ravens mutually agree to part ways.
Do you have any insight that isn't maybe being discussed
or maybe just was obvious that you know, led to
(04:51):
this the demise of Harrball.
Speaker 8 (04:55):
So I think like.
Speaker 10 (04:57):
It's just sort of maybe run its course.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
I think there are a couple things to look at here, LeVar.
I think the first thing is the level of expectation
coming into the year, right, which there were people in
that building who felt like this might be the best
roster we've had in a couple of decades.
Speaker 10 (05:12):
And they've had some really good.
Speaker 8 (05:13):
Teams there over the years, but they really felt like
this was the team, right and so you know.
Speaker 10 (05:20):
There are there are reasons.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
The record wasn't great, and you know, you lose Lamar
for a chunk of the season that's going to obviously
contribute to it. They had a rash of injuries there
for a few weeks, think it was in October when
they hit the kids, and so there's reasons for it.
But you finished eight and nine and you had a
chance to get in the playoffs and you don't do it. So,
you know, not living up to expectations in a year
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when the expectations were sky high internally, I think is
part of it. The other piece of it that I
think you know is and I know this has been
there's been a lot of back and forth on this
over the last couple of days. So I'm going to
do my best to clarify it. As far as I know,
I do think John Harry as a players coach, and
I think if you talk to the people who've played
for him, most of them love him, right, And he's
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been over the years adaptable, He's changed schemes, he's he's
adjusted the way he does things. The thing about it, though,
is that I think, and I think Jim's this way too,
but John certainly is. It just takes a certain type
of player to play in his program. Right. It's a tough,
demanding program. And listen, he will listen to his players,
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he will cater to his players, he will make things
work for his players from a scheme standpoint.
Speaker 10 (06:34):
He'll do everything as players need.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
But I think it just takes a certain type of
guy to play in that program. And for years and
years and years and years he had it in Baltimore,
and I'm just not sure over the last couple of
years that it was quite the same, you know, and
and and look like you can lay the blame up
for that on a bunch of different things, but I
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just it just felt like, you know, when you talk
to people about the way this was towards the end
of the year, there might have been a little bit
more of a disconnect there and just do the players
that we have now, who are really good players, but
do the players that we have now match up with
the program the same way it was say five years
ago or ten years ago. And so, you know, I
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think that's sort of you know, where those discussions went over,
you know, the afternoon that he and Steve Bashatti sat
down and met, and you know, obviously the decision, you know,
that they arrived at was that it was just time
for everybody to move on after eighteen years. And I
don't think there's any acrimony there. I think he's going
to be you know, obviously his name is going to
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be up in the Ring of Honor in Baltimore someday.
And there were a lot of players in that locker
room who were very sad to see him go. But
I just I just feel feel like for that reason
this that they decided that this was time.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
A couple of things we talked about or have been
talking about, is the contract situation for Lamar.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
He's got a huge cap hit.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah, in twenty twenty six, they obviously have to restructure
that he doesn't have any representation and it's just kind
of wondering because there was times where it felt like
the media was trying to pit it like basically being.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Lamar or John Harbaugh.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
And if that's the case, I mean obviously Lamar won out,
or at least he was, you know, ultimately who ended
up surviving this. Yeah, but what do you make of
kind of moving forward, like what this is going to
look like as far as the coach they're going to
prong to coach him, and then what the contract's going
to look like?
Speaker 8 (08:32):
Yeah, So like let's start with the contract, because I
do think that affects the play, right, Like, And I
had somebody point out to me that somebody who knows
this situation pretty intimately point out to me that, you know,
like Lamar, the years when he's missed time due to
injury have been years when he's when the contract's been uncertain, right,
(08:55):
So twenty one, in twenty two and then this year,
right and.
Speaker 10 (09:00):
Then and and and and it's just.
Speaker 8 (09:02):
I mean it's just something that that's that those are facts, right, Like,
so that's out there. So like I think part of
this for the Ravens is all right, like are we
going to do a new contract with him? Which they
they looked at the idea of doing it in the
lost off season after Josh Allen got his contract. Correction,
they don't do it, they get like a little bit
of a diminished version of Lamar. And I think, you know,
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now the question for the Ravens has to be if
we don't do because again, because the way he plays
the position is so different, you know, and and and
he's taken on so much more damage than than most
quarterbacks of his level of experience have. If we don't
do a contract with him, are we going to get
a diminished version of them? Are we going to have
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another sideways year?
Speaker 10 (09:47):
And so I think those are all questions you have
to ask.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
You do fifty two million dollars this coming year, most
of it's guaranteed. He's do fifty two million dollars in
twenty twenty seven. None of that's guaranteed. So that's what's
fucks on his contract.
Speaker 10 (10:00):
So do you go back?
Speaker 5 (10:01):
You got a seventy four and a half million dollar
capet this year, right.
Speaker 10 (10:05):
And and do you do you go so do you
go in?
Speaker 8 (10:08):
Do you go in and say, yep, you're going to
be our quarterback for the next four or five years,
because that's what you're gonna have to like, that's what
you're going to be looking at. Right, do you go
in and do you do that right and say, okay,
like we're gonna we're going to do a deal you
know that's going to have like an average, a new
money average of sixty five million dollars and commit to
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you for the next four or five years based on
some of the you know again like the historic amount
of damage he's taken on just in the way that
he plays the position and what you got this year.
And you know, like if that contract negotiation goes to
little sideways and that becomes public.
Speaker 10 (10:48):
At all, like okay, like now are the Raiders.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
Calling or the Dolphins calling? You know, are you getting
calls from different teams organically? You know, like is that
just happening? And how do you respond to all that?
So I think all that's complicated, and you know, the
first step and kind of showing Lamar where you stand
with all of this is going to be the hiring
of the head coach. So does this caused you to
look a little bit more at offensive coaches?
Speaker 10 (11:13):
You know, offensive min mined coaches who you know.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Are going to be working directly with Lamar, Like, these
are all questions that I think we have to ask
based on the history between the team and the player.
And Lamar's obviously been an unbelievable player there.
Speaker 10 (11:28):
Two time MVP.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
But you know, with with John Harbaugh gone, now like
I think you know, the next question becomes okay, and Brady,
you asked it, the next question becomes okay, like now
that John's gone, with Lamar's future.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
Here it's Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Get him on x.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
At Albert Breer, Abe, what have you heard, if anything
about coaches coaching this weekend in the NFL that with
a loss could be a name to watch as a
potential casualty.
Speaker 10 (12:06):
I mean, I think a lot of people.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Are going to be looking at Tomlin just because of
what just happened with Harbaugh. I don't think it's like
on the Steelers' minds right now, like the idea.
Speaker 10 (12:17):
Like okay, like are we moving on?
Speaker 8 (12:20):
But I do think like that's again like naturally going
to come up as part of the conversation when you're
talking about potentially you know, turning the page of quarterback.
Speaker 10 (12:29):
If that's what happens.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
You know, I don't think you know, it's one hundred
percent that Aaron's not coming back, that Aaron's retiring, but
you know, like you obviously have to prepare, prepare for
the eventuality of that. And you know, if you don't
have Aaron Rodgers's your quarterback? Who's your quarterback? And what
does that mean for some of the older players on
your team? You know, like a Jalen Ramsey, you know
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Cam Hayward? You know, is is is t J? Watt back?
You know, like if you're if you're starting over at quarterback,
you know, or there's not like a clear answer at
quarterback going into next year? You know, do you listen
if somebody calls on t J.
Speaker 10 (13:09):
Watt?
Speaker 8 (13:09):
You know?
Speaker 10 (13:10):
Like so I think I think that like when you.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Get to that point where you're going to be going
through that with all of your older players, the natural
question attached to that is like, okay, like if Mike
Tomlin going to be the one that's going to rebuild
this and if you're Tomlin, wouldn't you say, Okay, would
I rather go through this? I I'm certain to be
a quarterback, Or do I want to go do TV
for a year, And if I go do TV for
a year, maybe I come back in twenty twenty seven
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and I go to a place with a quarterback and I,
you know, I get a I have a great second
act there. You know. I think these are all These
are all questions that could be asked, you know, whenever
they get eliminated but they're still in it. But that
will be the one that I would look at and say, Okay,
like if there's someone coming out of this weekend, that'd
be the most obvious one where you might see a change.
Speaker 10 (13:57):
Are you looking at the other ones and thinking something
could happen?
Speaker 9 (14:01):
But maybe McDermott, Yeah, McDermott would be one.
Speaker 10 (14:05):
Would be the one.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
Yeah, So McDermott would be the one. Yeah, I think
like that one. So I think there's a lot of
pressure on a lot of people there because of the
position that they're in, right, and because there's no Lamar Jackson,
there's no Joe Burrow, there's no Patrick Mahomes in the
AFC playoffs, right, So you basically like removed what's prevented
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the Bills from from getting to the Super Bowl over
the last five.
Speaker 10 (14:33):
Or six years, and so you know, certainly there's.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
Pressure on everyone to maximize where they're at right now
with Josh Allen.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
So like, I don't think the internal.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Conversation has risen to the level of like, yeah, we're
going to move on from him, but like I do
think like that natural pressure is there. And the comparison
I've made, guys is to Tony Dungey in Tampa twenty
five years ago, you know, and like if you remember,
if you remember, like Tony Dungee and when I was
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a kid, and you know LeVar Brady, Like I mean,
you guys remember this, Like the Bucks were about as
big a laughingstock as there was in all of sports.
They were terrible and Tony but Tony Dungee got there
and he completely changed the face of.
Speaker 10 (15:19):
The organization and he won, and.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
He got the playoffs and they were knocking on the door.
Speaker 10 (15:26):
And eventually, like with that corps.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Of defensive players, you're Derek Brooks, Warren Sapp, John Lynch,
Rende Barber, you know, ownership looked at it says like
we have to maximize this, and they kind of felt
the clock ticking on that. And despite everything that Tony
Dungee had done for them.
Speaker 10 (15:44):
You know, eventually got to the point where like, okay, okay,
we have to do something.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
And I think it was after he'd been there for
seven years. They wind up blocking away. They pursued Bill Parcells,
they don't wind up getting him.
Speaker 10 (15:53):
They traded for John Cruden and obviously they won the.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
Super Bowl the next year, And so are the Bills
at that point with Sean McDermott. Would be the biggest
question I would have, you know, and are they going
to get to that point where you know, it's a
little different.
Speaker 10 (16:07):
But it's the same, right Like.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
Where in Tampa was you have this group of players
is creating this opportunity.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
To a peep for a championship, and man like, we
better take advantage of it while we have it.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
You know. Obviously in Buffalo it's a single player. It's
Josh Allen, you know. I mean, we'll see what happens.
I I think, like if they lose in ugly fashion
to Jacksonville on Sunday, I mean, I guess I wouldn't
rule out the idea of the dynamic had change there.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
What about come on, man, why are we until you're
talking about how Yeah, this has been happening a lot lately.
By the way, we've been saying the same exact stuff
at the same exact it's crazy.
Speaker 9 (16:52):
All right, But what about La Floor, what about the
go Packers?
Speaker 8 (16:56):
Yeah, so I think with that, with that one, it's contractual,
right like, so they have a negotiation coming with him,
and so there's a contractual part of it. And you know,
i'd say with the new team president there, it does
create a little less certainty where you know, Mark Murphy
was there for almost twenty years and then Mark Murphy
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hired Matt Lafleur, and the Policy is now the president.
So you know, like that.
Speaker 10 (17:23):
Transition happened over the summer. It was an internal hire.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
So it's not like ed Policy doesn't know Matt Lafleur.
Speaker 10 (17:30):
But the fact that he decided.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
Not in the moment to extend Lafleur and the general manager,
Brian Guducuns at least leaves open the possibility that there.
Speaker 10 (17:43):
Could eventually be a change. And you know, I think.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
What's interesting about Lafleur is the.
Speaker 10 (17:50):
Connections he has to Matt Ryan, And you know.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
I sort of wonder if like the Falcons wind up
doing what everybody think's going to do, which is, you know,
they've got their interviews for the president role today and tomorrow.
And if everybody, if they do what everybody thinks we're
going to do, which is hire Matt Ryan over the
weekend as a president football offs and Matt Ryan, you know,
(18:15):
I think, winds up hiring somebody like Ian conningh Aamason
as a general manager. Do they look at it and say,
you know, we want to do something bold? And you
guys know who Matt Ryan's position coach was here?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You wanted to a good call? Yeah, Matt Lafleur.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
Yeah, so Matt Lafleur was there. So I mean, if
you're Matt Ryan and you're saying, okay, like we want
to we want to do something that's going to make
a splash and kind of establish us, do you pick
up the phone to call the Packers if they lose
this weekend and say like, hey, like what would it
take for us to get him out of there?
Speaker 9 (18:52):
You know?
Speaker 8 (18:54):
And if if the Packers are in a position where
they're saying like, well, we're not sure we want to
do a contract right now with laf do they listen
and they have a guy on their staff and Jeff Hafley,
who's going to be sought after to be a head coach,
and maybe they think a lot. It's just there's this
sliding doors thing. So I don't think they're going to
fire Lafloor, but I do think like the contract situation
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being what it is, could create some of these moving
parts and we'll see what happens. Again. Again, I don't
think he I don't think he's going to get fired
if they lose over the weekend, But could there be
a scenario or something like that that happens. I certainly
think so, because there aren't a ton of obvious candidates now.
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There are more now than there were a couple of
weeks ago with Harbaugh Stefanski out there, but there aren't
like these obvious candidates. We're like, yes, that guy has
slammed unk. So I do think some of these teams
are going to have to think a little bit more creatively.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Albert, I want to ask you about the timing of
what you just said. Matt Ryan's involvement with the Falcons
predated the Rich McKay firing, and so I wasn't clear
or what his position or role would be.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
But now you're saying he's interviewing for the president.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
It's president of football operations. So they haven't correct.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
But they had already announced that he was going to
be joining the organization before that.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
No, they haven't announced anything yet.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
He's interviewing, he's he's he's interviewing. So they have four
guys in, four other guys in over the next two days.
I know what you're saying, but they haven't announced anything.
So so Matt's not part of the organization yet.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Like he's actually support then they just knew that they
were going to tab him at some point.
Speaker 10 (20:34):
All right, Well, what I think?
Speaker 8 (20:35):
What Jay? I don't want to put words in Jay's
mouth that I think Jay reported.
Speaker 10 (20:38):
When when it initially came out, I want.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
To say Jay reported that they were looking at bringing
him into the organization in some capacity. It was it
was pretty gray in that way. It wasn't it wasn't
black and white.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Interesting.
Speaker 9 (20:51):
Uh, they they retained bowls in Tampa.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
We asked the question earlier, does he go into next
season as a lame duckhead coach?
Speaker 11 (21:02):
What say you? I, Well, they've already extended him, so
lame duck like by the by the letter of what
that means.
Speaker 10 (21:12):
No, he's not lame duck because he.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
He did just get an extension. But I do think
that there's pressure on him. I think there's pressure on
a lot of people there. I mean, you know, I
I think like one of the big questions I'd have
going forward is like what they're going to do with
Baker Mayfield now, because he's like twenty twenty six is
a contract here for Baker. So I think we were
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all thinking, like in September and October, of course they're
going to resign him, and I think they still will.
But is that a little bit more difficult of a
negotiation now based on how the last you know, two
months of the season went, it might be you know.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
So.
Speaker 10 (21:51):
Yeah, I mean I think if if.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
You're taught Todd Bowles, the fact that like, and you know,
I always feel this way guys, right, Like it's like
the same thing with like what Indianapolis did with Shane
Stike and Chris Dollard. When there needs.
Speaker 10 (22:06):
To be an announcement that the.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
Team is keeping you on, that means you're that means
you are on the hot seats going into the next year,
you know what I mean, Like, like for example, like,
the Patriots are not announcing that Mike Rabel will be
back next year, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (22:22):
The Bronxos, the Dolphins.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
Yeah, the Broncos are not announcing, but Mike McDaniel might
not be. I mean, I think that John harbaughton complicates that.
I mean, I I would say this with Mike McDaniel
in Miami, right, Like, So, they put out five interview
requests for general manager candidates on Monday, right, All five
of those guys had connections to McDaniel, All five of them, right,
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whether it was through McDaniel's friends or they'd worked with
McDaniel directly, they all had connections to McDaniels. Then on Tuesday,
the Dolphins turned around and put in an interview request
for the Chargers assistant general manager, Chad Alexander.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
Who does who would the Chargers assistant.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
General manager work with? Yep? So and so like do
you see that and say the Dolphins had like some
sort of tip off that John Harbaugh was about to
become available, So they're preparing themselves for the possibility that
they wind up with Harbor, which would mean that they.
Speaker 10 (23:33):
Would have to get a general manager that would line.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
Up with him, like I I can just tell you, you know,
Stee and Brady you were down there. You don't you
don't need me to tell you. Steve Ross, you know
has you know, has connections to the Harbaugh family, and
you know, he made a run at getting Jim in
I think it was two thousand and ten or eleven before.
Speaker 10 (23:55):
He went to the Niners. I think was two thousand,
I think it.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Was ten, tried to get him out of Stanford. It didn't,
it didn't. It didn't happen at a time, and then
you know, had had discussions about trying to get John.
I think it was in twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen
when the when the Ravens and Harbaugh weren't a contract negotiation.
So I would I would certainly not rule out the Dolphins.
Speaker 10 (24:18):
Making you know, a run.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
And the thing that's tricky about is like how do
you pull that off? You know what I mean? Like, so,
if you only are firing McDaniel, if you're going to
wind up with John, then you need to get a commitment,
a quiet commitment from John. So you have to have
had something worked out with.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
John and then you fire Mike and you've got.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
To satisfy the Rooney rule. It can be kind of
complicated to do that, but.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
You know, I would say I would.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Say that there's not a zero percent chance as that happens.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Wow, good stuff.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, Lead Content Strategies at the MMQB.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Get him on x at A. Yeah, we don't care
that they're eliminated.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
All right, you can keep playing the fight song.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
I don't know who's gonna be on the team, but
you got to keep.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
Playing the fight song.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, you're fine. Yeah, everything's it.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Seems like it seems like everything's happening in the transfer
port portal right now is super rational.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Huh Well, let me ask you this, like, how many
teams does that really worked out for? I mean, maybe
you'd say it has so far this year for Old
Miss and maybe some others, but I don't know. It's
Miami you got back. I mean, he hasn't been leading
the way and they had some of those guys.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Going on that I don't I don't think it's good
for the players either, to be honest with you, Like
I'm all four players getting paid, don't get me wrong,
but like I think this is gonna be so destructive,
destructive for the players too, And I yeah, I mean
it's just the whole thing is that the whole thing is.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
A complete mass, you.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
Know, right down to and I would say this too,
like I think it's in the long run, it's gonna
wind up affecting a lot of kids' ability to develop up.
And you know, like the NFL doesn't really develop you,
you know what I mean, Like unless you're a first
round pick or the two of you guys were, you know,
most guys that come into the NFL, you know, you're
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instantly fighting for a job and they're not going to
give you four or five years to develop. And so
if you're not doing it in college, I don't know.
It just it seems like it's not good for the sport,
it's not good for the players. I know that there
are keep some people that are profiting for it but
from it. But it just feels to me like we
need to meet, we need to get ah, we need
(26:33):
to have somebody in charge, whether that's Nick Saban, whoever
else to to to to come in and be the
commissioner of college football and clean this mess up. Maybe
you could do it, Brady, what do you think well, first.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Off, you don't have the guard rolls that you need
up right now. I mean there's no no commissioner walking
right now is going to have any power because there's
no entity over top.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Of any of this that's going to start what's happening.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
So right until you have some sort of anti trust protection,
until you get to the point where like these guys
are viewed as employees or everyone define them and they
can work out a CBA, none of it matters because
they're just gonna take you to court every single time
and they're probably going to.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
Win, right right right, So anyway, rip college football? All right?
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Way to stick the landing. Uh, there is Albert Breer
with us here on Fox Sports Radio. Thinks AP would
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Fox Sports Radio LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
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We're going to have another edition of The Leftovers that'll
be yours right here on FSR. So, any other interesting
subplots or storylines you guys have identified in the Miami
Ole Miss matchup coming up later on tonight. I know
(30:38):
LeVar is all in. He wants Miami to win. I'm
all for America's team. I want Ole Miss to win.
I think it would be hilarious. I think it would
be It would just be appropriate to see this whole
thing play out, even though Lane Kiffin gets a paycheck
from each and every win as far as far as
Ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Keeps advancing as long as they do. So there is that.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
But anything else bout to you guys that you look
at and go something to watch, something.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
To Something that I think we need to figure out
moving forward is not having this game in Arizona.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
You know you've got Whole Miss in Miami.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
And I realized the National Championship, which is it's different,
It's it's bid on by different host cities. So it
just so happens that Miami is a game away from
playing what Quite honestly, again, I threw this out there like.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
A couple of weeks ago, or maybe a week ago.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
This might be the only time ever we see a
college football team play a national championship in their home stadium,
at least dating back to the days in which you
just and maybe before even bowl season, before they just
played a regular season schedule. Then people declared who won
the national championship. But it'd be pretty wild to see that.
But I want to go back to initial point. Like
(31:49):
you had Oregon Texas Tech playing in the Orange Bowl
in the quarterfinal, you now have the Fiesta Bowl hosting
Old Miss in Miami. Two let's just call them East
Coast in Miami, then Southeast in Old Miss or in
the South. It just logistically, it doesn't make sense for
the fans, it doesn't make sense for the teams.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
I understand the structure of the New Year six.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
There may be should be some more fluidy in it,
because here's the problem is, it's going to upset a
lot of fans and teams to the point where they
keep pushing to not have these bowl games involved at all.
So here, well, it may or it may not, right
because even if we expanded to a larger format, there's
still the New Year Six Bowls still continue to keep
(32:33):
you know, trying to stay a part of it, and
again being a part of one of them, I would
say they do a tremendous job. But I think the
one thing I look at this year and say it's
been an issue at least in my mind, is obviously
logistically getting the fans there, getting the teams there. Again,
I'm not smart enough to figure out the idea to
do it, but I think it doesn't bode well for
(32:55):
those the New Year Six if they can't figure out
a better process of figuring this all out. And furthermore,
I do think ESPN owns exclusively the rights to these
playoff games. They've leased some out to TNT, so you
saw that, but it's ESPN people, so it doesn't really
feel like.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
It's actually a T and T broadcast. I don't think
that's good for the sport either.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I think it's actually limited the perspective of how the
sport should be portrayed to one network. And I think
if you look at the NFL's presentation of the Super Bowl.
The NFL's presentation of the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
It's very much.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
More diverse and its approach, and I think it's better
for the sport overall. And in what way, Well, again,
like you can lend yourself to the theory of, you know,
we have a twelve team playoff, let's get five teams
in it because we've got, you know, that conference exclusively
the rights to it. So from a business standpoint, it's
(33:52):
behoof of them to put five teams in if you're
the committee that the Again, ESPN's kind of contry to
this whole thing. So instead of like the NFL, how
they dictate to all of the you know, the media
rights to all the TV networks and any of their partners,
that's not happening right now.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
It's ESPN that just has so you know, creative.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Pretty much, but you also have essentially and this is
one of the things that wedn't talked about it. Actually,
it is funny. It became like the talking point for
about Notre Dame and this whole Well, if they're in
the top twelve, they automatically get into the college football
playoffs starting in twenty twenty six, and that was language
that was put in for two reasons. One, it is
(34:38):
language that existed even dating back to the BCS. So
all these schools are people out there who didn't realize
that that existed.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
As an independent Notre Dame had got that in.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
It had been put in. It's been in there again
since the BCS. Now, it wasn't in there for the
fourteen playoff obviously, but once they expanded to twelve, and
once there was a thought this could go from twelve
to fourteen, that language.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Was then put in.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
So there's a called ANU, a memorandum of understanding, and
that's existed within it. Why it became public this year
is purely because someone wanted to put it out there
or a school was too ignorant to read it in.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
The first place.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
But the other reason why it was necessary or to
put in there was for scenarios that could potentially play
out in the future where based on the language of
the College Football Playoff, you'd be leaving out a team
that's ranked that high, but due to conference championships kind
of like this year, a team like James Madison gets in.
Where is that probably what's best for the sport. No,
(35:33):
it was fun and we can have that conversation, but
maybe we can be more inclusive if it gets to fourteen, sixteen,
twenty four.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I just wonder, and I know we're up on a break,
but my question would be, I thought it was it
was intelligent for Fox to invest in and own most
of the Big ten network. If Fox is considered to
be the Big ten networks represented of television and media rights,
(36:04):
and ESPN has the SECU, I don't really care about
the other ones. But between those two, you know, I
don't know about I think the Bowl games and my
estimation are in danger. I think they are just based
around the environment and the climate of the playoff. But
I just wonder what that conversation becomes. If I'm Fox
(36:28):
and I have, like we heard Albert say earlier, we're
we're on the cusp of the national title belonging to
the Big Ten for three consecutive years. If there is
an established amount of dominance, and what comes to the
table with the Big Ten, If I'm Fox, I'm telling you,
(36:52):
I got to walk in the room and I got
to throw it on the table at some point, they're
at some point like a game on to tell you
on the table that.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
They're Big ten let me peel back the layers a
bit more. What do you have in the semi finals?
You have an ACC representative an SEC representative on.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
One side, and two Big ten teams. So in essence
you have the exclusive rights. You have the.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Exclusive rights holders for the ACC and SEC, which are ESPN,
and then you have two Big ten teams. So Albert
pointed out the fact that like, hey, if you really
want to go through the numbers, the Big ten has
been better, you know, buy and large, but the narrative
hasn't been spun that because ESPN controls a lot of
the balls. ESPN controls a heavy portion of the games too.
They have rights in the Big twelve obviously exclusively SEC
(37:43):
and ACC. So when you really start kind of breaking
this down, they're the ones that drummed up this narrative
that the SEC is so deep, and they keep telling
their coaches, keep keep saying it, keep telling everyone, keep
telling what a gauntlet it is. And meanwhile that gauntlet
just goes away when they get the Bulls season and they.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Get the playoff.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
As we've seen it in the expanded Playoff, either they
either they don't show up or they don't match up
well with with their teams that you're seeing from the
Big Ten, and look, SEC fans will take issue with us,
but like these are facts. This isn't like an opinion
because it's what we've watched the past last year now
into this year. And so if you get a Big
Ten team winning it, if you get Miami beating Old
(38:19):
Miss and it's an ACC team versus a Big Ten team,
we know that from that side you have, once again
for three years straight, either a Big Ten team winning
it or at least in it and without an SEC
team being a part of it. And even the semi
finals it has been majority of Big Ten teams. So
this has been something that's I don't know to say,
it's like a dirty secret. But to your point, the
(38:39):
Big ten conference needs to do a better job of
really forcing because now this this the whole playoff system
has coming down to the Big Ten and SEC having
control and they ultimately dictate what it looks like moving forward.
And so it's it's really on the Big Ten to
say we need to bring in more network partners because
our conferences divided up more like the NFL, and that's
what we've become a professor model that should be presented
(39:01):
very much so where you get different perspectives and all
sorts of different people presenting it as opposed to a
lot of the bias that we've seen in particular this year.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
Well, it is Game Day, and here's a Game day
tip for you. What you ordered Pizza Hut before the
QB shouts the first hunt?
Speaker 9 (39:16):
Ha ha ha oh that was a QB.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
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Speaker 9 (39:32):
Oh is that big New Yorker?
Speaker 7 (39:34):
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Speaker 2 (39:44):
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Speaker 9 (39:58):
Get it right, right, That's okay, that'll do?
Speaker 7 (40:01):
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Speaker 3 (40:46):
Time to find out what's left Towns Incredible. Here's the
left over us Ry LARRAI, what we got?
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Well?
Speaker 13 (40:54):
I have some real investigative reporting for you guys, but
I'll save that for tomorrow. Because I'm a little short
on times. But bad news for the King Lebron James.
He will be ineligible for NBA awards if he misses
one more game, and he is likely to do so
because he said he isn't playing anymore back to backshm.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Okay, that's unfortunate. Oh he's getting a little older.
Speaker 9 (41:15):
He's getting a little up there.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
He's forty one, dude, he's ancient.
Speaker 9 (41:19):
YEAHBA standards getting a little up there.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
You've been playing well.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
I don't think you could pull Philip Rivers in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (41:27):
I don't know when's the last time we've seen that
someone comes back and plays at forty four after being
out for five years.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, if you can shoot, you might be able to
do it. But other than being able to shoot really well,
like where you could just get up and down, cork,
catch the ball, put it in the bucket. Other than that, yeah,
I don't think it's going to work. They don't play
defense anymore anyway in the NBA. Not really, So it's
(41:52):
not like you got to be able to guard anybody.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Okay, see do but yeah they do, but steal. If
you can shoot, you could be old hit Good luck.
Speaker 13 (42:01):
Lebron, don't get too stiff out there.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Whoa
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