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February 13, 2026 41 mins

In Hour 3 of the show the guys revisit the crucial Seahawks vs Rams game with the two point conversion ruling after recent insights were made public on the play ruling by refs. Plus, the guys take a look at ESPN's Super Bowl marketing for next years Super Bowl, a Friday The 13th edition of The Leftovers, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
You know, pump it up? Got him? No?

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, toylet seats, Uh, got the yay, got
the blow?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
U take a bone, take a both? Do it? Do it?

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Ain't no germs stop me, ain't no germs stop me?

Speaker 5 (00:53):
Come on, come on wait.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01):
So the ravishing rick rude hip swivel.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
It's gone, well, it's gone.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
Patty speaks, uh has turned it borderline like it's like
he really really gets into it, like it's a it's
a thrust. Every time. Every revolution is like a more
intense thrust from Patty.

Speaker 6 (01:24):
We've got some torqu into him.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Huh yeah, settle settle down now, Patty. Body really trying
to break anything.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Wait, I met your mom, just a sweet lady. Does
she know this side of you? Or does this slowly
come out over the last couple of months.

Speaker 6 (01:42):
Let's just say she drinks to forget sometimes. Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:45):
Also, I haven't updated them while we're there. I actually
haven't updated my head size. Remember we talked about that
last week?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:51):
Did Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:53):
No, no, no, I actually found the yes not fits.
I just actually have my head size from it. And guys,
it's seven and three fourths to lie, I'm not I'm
not lying.

Speaker 8 (02:07):
We measure it. No, no, no, I'm not measured. Did
you put an actual hat on?

Speaker 6 (02:12):
I haven't had a fitted hat in like ten years.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Okay, so then you don't know like you got to
go put a fitted hat on, because I'll be honest, dude,
I've never seen anyone with a snapback.

Speaker 8 (02:23):
I mean that thing was hanging.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
On on the last last loop. It was it was
like it wasn't even like I mean, it was like
like fi laid out. I've never seen a dude wear
a hat look like that.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
All right, I'll go buy one.

Speaker 7 (02:38):
I'll go buy a Seahawks championship like fitted one or
something all that.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, go celebrate. I'm just saying I don't think you
need to buy it. I just want to see if
you try it on, and you need to have video
evidence of this what size, because I guarantee you're like
at an eight.

Speaker 8 (02:52):
And a half?

Speaker 6 (02:53):
Like, all right, I'll do it.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah, go to lids and if they look at you
and say, now, buddy, come over here, then you know
you're in the eights and above because everything is usually
within the sevens. But you're looking at eight and above.
It's like Bruce Bochie. I think Bruce Bochie, the former manager,
had a nine. I think he wore a nine cap.
So like it's close but it didn't look but it's proportional.

(03:16):
Like just big head. None wrong with that.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Got a big brain in that big head?

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Yeh, all right, so we will hopefully get a report
on that.

Speaker 9 (03:25):
Have you measured that one?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
I get some good brain for that good big hey?

Speaker 8 (03:30):
What what what?

Speaker 9 (03:33):
I'm so glad that wasn't me for once.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I didn't understand that. But okay, Patty.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
No, By the way, I went to elementary school with
a kid who his head was so big that they
told us when he was a toddler he would just
drag it on the floor because he couldn't lift it.
His neck wasn't strong enough to pick his head up,
so it just walked around like a sack hanging off
the end of your foot that's about to fall off.

(04:04):
Just couldn't pick his head up.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Look like them helmets on little league football fields.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
That guy had a head and a half god league god.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
But did he have a nickname?

Speaker 5 (04:19):
I don't I think they did. They call him?

Speaker 6 (04:23):
Was it head? Like what he got?

Speaker 7 (04:26):
I did?

Speaker 5 (04:27):
Am I confusing with another There's another kid at a
big head. They just called him heed like.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
That is a hell of a nickname for du head,
A shine melon.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
I forget. There might have been two guys that had
giant heads. One of them is called head.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
But that is dope. It's gone. It's pretty dope.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
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(05:30):
there's a tell me if you guys think this is
feels like it's something that should be talked about more,
but maybe hasn't been discussed. So do you guys remember
the Thursday night football game between the Seahawks and the Rams.
It was that crazy game where the Seahawks came back,
they won it in overtime, went for two and the
play in that game it was from week sixteen on

(05:53):
Amazon Prime. The play in that game was the two
point conversion attempt in which it was called in complete.
Zach Sharbonay picked up the ball in the end zone
and then there was a big delay and next thing
you know, they're lined up to kick off thinking that
there was no two point conversion and they ruled that
it was a loose ball, a clear recovery, and it

(06:14):
gave the Seahawks two points. And it was kind of
a big deal because Seattle went on to win that
game and never lost afterwards, literally won every game afterwards.
They got first, you know, the number one seed in
the NFC, went on and rolled that into a Super Bowl.
And so, according to Pro Football Talk, three different sources

(06:36):
say the only reason the play was reviewed was because
Terry McCauley, who was the rules analyst working for Amazon
Prime Video, called NFL officiating and rules analyst Walt Anderson
to let them know. They let him know they needed
to take another look. So basically, the guy who's on
TV a La Dean Blandino to educate the viewers about

(07:00):
how things should be on the field and what certain
calls are.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
It was the league. I don't know, basically, right.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
Yeah, it seems like those guys on the field though,
shouldn't need the assist from the rules analyst on TV
in order to make the right call. And if he
didn't call in, the play would have been the play
would have stood. There would have been no successful two
point conversion. Who knows what happens in the game would
have made the comeback even more difficult, and who knows
what happens in the postseason afterwards. It feels like there's

(07:31):
a there's something wrong with that whole equation.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
The issue is the process, and I don't know why.
There's always been this divide between the NFL and college
where when one's doing something well, the other won't want
to adopt it.

Speaker 8 (07:46):
It's it's it's bizarre.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I mean, I've kind of straddled between college NFL and
calling games on both sides, and so oftentimes, at least
working with networks, whether it's Fox or CBS that I've
worked with, you know, they will will send out officials,
rules officials, and they'll talk about the process of how
they go about reviews, the process, how they do all.

Speaker 8 (08:07):
These things right.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
And one of the things that's glaringly obvious between the
two is that there's almost like this big brother little
brother scenario where I'm like, well, wait a.

Speaker 8 (08:17):
Second, so college has more officials on the field than
the NFL, and they're like yep, I'm like why is that?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Like why wouldn't you have for a game that it's
the same dimensions, same amount of players on the field,
the rules are I don't know, ninety five percent the same,
Like like, why wouldn't you have the same amount of
officials to oversee all this. It's always been the first
thing that stood out. And so we're gonna say, all right,

(08:47):
the NFL is too cheap to pay for one additional
official and let's say everyone's playing, so sixteen a different
additional officials.

Speaker 8 (08:56):
To be on the field.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Though, okay, exactly so it's on the sideline, so that
can't be it.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
It's probable then you got to find a backup for
the backup. But the general point is whether it's a
money issue or whether it's they just don't feel like
it's necessary because because quite quite frankly, my conversations with
Mike Prayer and Dean Blandino have always been this since
I started doing broadcasting, And I said, it just it
feels odd because as a player, you know, it's something

(09:24):
that you don't notice as.

Speaker 8 (09:24):
Much transition from college to the NFL.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
But then once you get out of it, you look
back at some of like the unevenness between You're like,
why are even the hashes different? Like there's an explanation
for at the high school level, But then you elevate
to the college level and you're like, shouldn't hashes just
be the same as they'd be in the NFL?

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Like, why wouldn't be creator space, right, they wanted to
create this, didn't the NFL make them more narrow?

Speaker 3 (09:50):
And it's just.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
High school with standard uhould be standard. Didn't the NFL
move them?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
And yeah, the NFL has moved to have been colleges
as obviously wider in the NFL, but then high school
is wider than both. So to me it has a
little bit doe with spacing, but I think it also
has to do with just ease of being able to
throw the football too into the boundary and different things. Right,
But but again they there's been no different than the
stripe of the football. You know, high school you have

(10:16):
the white stripe all the way around. In college an
NFL they don't have it. So there's different levels, you
know to that. But the general points to it is
they should probably add an official it just it makes sense.
I think actually deans finally come to that side, whereas
before they would just say it's not necessary.

Speaker 8 (10:33):
It just it adds another guy in the way.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
The other thing is, though, I think they should implement
the college replay process. And so there's layers to this.
You know, obviously, you have the call in the field.
You have officials who are right there and the booth
that are going to take a look at it instead
of routing everything back to New York, you know where
you then have you know, someone else be able to
take a look at it. There's command centers for everyone
of the conferences too, But they do have officials who

(10:58):
are there on site who are able to to make
in real time. They're watching every single play, they can
stop play, they can review something that makes more sense
than trying to wait on New York to be able
to chime in. And in this case, I mean having
to utilize a rules analyst for a network to help
you out in that regard.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
So I just imagine being in a room, being in
a courtroom and the judge is about the rule of
verdict on somebody's life, and somebody that's in the audience
calls like wait, wait, wait, don't make wait, wait, don't
don't drop that gabble. Yeah, hey, hey going to back
real quick, pick up your cell phone.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Hey, look, man, did you hear what that one person
that interview.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Said, like this part right here where they said that
right there, it came back out innocent.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
That's the part that I that's the part that's just bizarre.
That's not You shouldn't need the TV analyst to know
the job that should be done on the field more
than the guys that should be doing the on the field.
That would be like if Tom Brady was calling a
game and he and he called down to a coach
on the sideline and said, hey, by the way, uh,
you know, this isn't working. That's not working, and then

(12:09):
the coach admitted afterwards, Yeah, if it wasn't for Tom calling,
we would have lost that game.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Wait a lot, it isn't true. I hope that isn't true.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
I hope this report isn't true, man, because at the
end of the day, the process should be the process.
Like you, someone could have an opinion on that, but
the people who are handling the business of the game,
which that's what the officials do, and that's what the
people behind the officials that are making sure they're reviewing
when they say they're going to New York and all

(12:38):
that stuff, and they're reviewing it that process should be
a locked and closed Yes, there should be no like.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
What are you even answering the phone for during that moment?

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Like oh, if you're not the one that's directly involved
and you get a call, like so you're running in
there to say you know, or you're sitting there like no, no, no,
take a look at it again. That's like I don't,
I don't. Here's what are you even answering your phone
for outside?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Like, ma, here's were answering your cell phone on the
sideline during the game and you're a player.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
This is why I buy it because I remember when
the play happened, you know, there was sort of oh, well, listen,
they didn't get the two point conversion. I think the
score was thirty to twenty eight at the time, and
I was like, oh, okay, And then I remember it
was a long time afterwards, and Terry McCauley was the
first guy and look give him credit. He was the
first guy on the broadcast who was saying to Kirk

(13:32):
kurb Street, now, Michael's like, hey, guys, this looks like
a clear recovery. And he was almost alluding to the
fact that I kind of gave a nudge to Walt
Anderson to be like, hey, you know, maybe you guys
should take another look at it. And I think it
was three minutes later when the Rams and Seahawks had
already lined up for the kickoff, and it was three
minutes later that they had to bring the bring everybody out,

(13:56):
take another look at it and realize, oh no, it
was a clear recovery. The whole thing was so delayed
that I won by the fact that he had to
tip somebody off on the field about how to do
their job, when really his job is to tell the viewers,
not the people on the field. It's crazy, but here
we are, and good for the Seahawks. Never lost the

(14:18):
game after that, So maybe Terry McCauley.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Are you are you searching for some type of uh,
you know, like you didn't want the Seahawks to win it.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
No, if Seattle loses that game, they're going on the road.
They don't have to saying you didn't want them to win.
I think I might have picked Seattle so I did
want him to win. Oh, I think I might have
had had money on see it. Maybe, Actually, you know what,
if they won, I probably was on the other side.
So I probably had the rams, but no in the
way my season went. But it's just knocks locked down.

(14:51):
Not really, but it's just I find it bizarre that
it's another example of cutting corners when you don't have
to cut corners. It's like field conditions and field turf officiating.
And yet, as Brady mentioned, there's almost like this, well,
if they're doing it and it works, we're too good
for that. We don't want to follow them. So what

(15:12):
do you mean you'll watch the XFL or the UFL
and you'll take stuff from them all the time. Why
wouldn't you take a good idea that's working elsewhere and
just implement it on your to your sport if it's
going to make things better. They took stuff from the
original XFL, the camera, angle, over the top, different ideas
like that, and for this one they just won't. So
is what it is, all right? It is two pros

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Speaker 5 (17:07):
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right around the corner. I think she's got some good

(17:27):
stuff planned for all the goodies.

Speaker 8 (17:30):
Anything you want, you're getting good stuff, or you've got
some good stuff.

Speaker 11 (17:33):
Oh yeah, we got the good and the scary coming up.

Speaker 8 (17:35):
Actually, yeah, has to say.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
It is Friday the thirteenth, it is Do people still
like do they still play scary movies and stuff like that?

Speaker 9 (17:45):
I do it more so on Halloween than Friday the thirteenth.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I just watched that scary movie yesterday with my daughter.

Speaker 9 (17:51):
What one?

Speaker 8 (17:51):
What'd you watch?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
What was it?

Speaker 4 (17:55):
It was some some movie where these two kids, their
mom got into a car accident. Their grandparents showed up
and was like, hey, we're your grandparents, Like come with us,
Like nobody told you your mom was in a car accident.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
So but I don't think.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
I didn't finish the movie, so that tells you how
I felt about it. But but I guess that there
was like a hole in the wall that only they
could see. And yeah, so when they looked in it,
there was there was like a girl that was over there,
and and she was real gory, and apparently it was
like their sister and something happened to her when she

(18:30):
was younger.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
So I guess they were like playing out like the kids.
But yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
People still watch scary movies. It's still a big thing,
I guess.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
So yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
I mean I watched I don't watch them, but I
thought it was interesting that you gotta said that, and
I watched the scary movie.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
You could.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
You could just put on Netflix or Amazon Prime or
Paramount and there'll be some docu entry that's a true
story that's worse than a scary movie, Like and there's
that is true. There's five or ten new ones that
come out.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
Every weekend.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
That is very true, just.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Like the one where the guy he's got the tattoos
all over his face and he's got like all the
groupies that show up Una still wanted. Oh yeah, they didn't.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Care until he got until he got like really really
fat out of shape, and then they didn't want him
no more, which is crazy, Like he had to get
fat n out of shape before they didn't want him.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Man, that's it's pretty wild.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Manity's undefeated, all right, So anybody else fired up?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Oh gosh, for the.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Year of the Super Bowl? Apparently this is this is
going to be a real thing. ESPN who has got
the right to Uh, they've got the rights to Super
Bowl sixty one in LA next year. They've announced the
year of the Super Bowl to be a year super
Bowl experience. So basically coverage and build up for Super

(20:06):
Bowl sixty one in Los Angeles is going to be
year round And I cannot wait to see how they
roll out this garbage.

Speaker 8 (20:17):
So what does that mean? Like every day they're doing something.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
I've like, they said they're going to unveil plans throughout
the course of the season, but that there's like special
cross company initiatives. It's going to start with the handoff.
You know, there's gonna be uh, we're going a sixty
second spot featured Like there's just all these like Disney

(20:43):
characters are involved like that. I haven't seen the daily content,
but I've just seen ideas that they're throwing out there
that they're going to put into their broadcasting to build
up for the entire year. And I gotta be honest
with you, I just don't think that's necessary. Nobody else
has done it, and we've had the Super Bowl for
sixty years. Just because you just now got an opportunity

(21:04):
to air your for a Super Bowl doesn't mean that
we need to be inundated with a year of build
up while you try and portray that Sofi Stadium and
the surrounding areas are a nice place to be to
watch a game.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
All right, I've got some questions. This is ESPN's first
ever Yeah is that right?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Okay, So I understand the excitement and the hype around it,
but I tend to lean with you. Why are you
trying to ruin something by reminding everyone about it before we.

Speaker 8 (21:34):
Even know who the matchup is?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Like, isn't that part of the excitement of conference championship weekend?
Like I get, maybe trying to pay homage to the
history of the game, how it came together, maybe even
before the Super Bowl era, you know, looking at the
professional football and telling some of those stories. But I
just I don't know that you need to know market
it in this way. I think the Super Bowl is

(21:56):
a super Bowl for a reason. But you'd have to
imagine with the recent you know, purchase of the NFL
assets by Disney or buy ESPN, and how these two
are going to work together. This might not be solely
a Disney or ESPN idea. This also could be a
portion of what maybe the NFL has always wanted to
do and the NFL and you know, excuse me, Fox, CBS, NBC,

(22:20):
these other networks who don't actually have an equity stake
in that company.

Speaker 8 (22:25):
Right in the NFL, they.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Might have just always said like, yeah, kick rocks, if
you're not paying us, you know, we're not going to
give you anything extra based on what we're paying you
for the rights to show your live games. So maybe
this is some of the NFL is kind of always
wanted to do, or you would say, NFL, you know,
the NFL network has kind of maybe had this on
on the forefront, but they wanted someone else to be
able to handle the production of it or doing it,

(22:48):
and they feel more comfortable with the ESPN doing it.
But I wonder how that new relationship is maybe playing
a role in this too, and how ESPN is now
going to be, you know, lockstep with the NFL. I
would imagine over other networks in presenting what we're seeing
now from the NFL and a lot of their content.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
I think this year's Super Bowl made it abundantly clear.
If you guys hurt me in my sentiments on on
post super Bowl Monday, it looked like a Disney production.
It looked like a Disney production, Like I felt like
when I was watching the presentation of how the start

(23:31):
of the game, the pre like the pre parts of
the game, the way it was structured, the entertainment style,
the tone of it, the talent that was connected to it.
You could have put them in snow white outfits, seven
Dwarfs outfits, you could you could have put them in Goofy, Daffy,
you know, Mickey outfits, and and you would have said,

(23:53):
if you close your eyes, you'd have been like, yeah,
that's Disney. So to me, I think it's brilliant because
the one the NFL benefits by getting the cash infusion
from Disney and creating this partnership in ESPN and ESPN.
Can I guess market and advertise, even though I feel

(24:16):
like the whole Bad Bunny thing kind of goes against
that with some of the things that were taking place
during the you know, during the performance. But nonetheless you're
still talking about the benefit of putting your your product
in front of an audience in a different pool of

(24:38):
water than what you've been putting it in. Right, So
now you got as Disney, I have ESPN, I have sports,
I have college football, So now I can integrate and
implement hidden subtleties of what you know Disney represents. It
was always all I'm going to Disney World after you
went in the Super Bowl. But now instead of just

(24:59):
hit hering, where are you going after after? Where are
you going? Oh, I'm going to Disney. No, the whole
production is Disney. The whole thing has Disney undertones and
subtleties and and acclamation to what Disney represents. So I
work when I do my entrepreneurial stuff. I look at
Walt Disney's rope map of how he built out Disney

(25:24):
and it's pretty Yeah. I mean I would have frozen
my head if I was able to create all that.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Brilliant you you know, they didn't freeze his lungs. That
was a chimney.

Speaker 8 (25:35):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
By the way, they didn't freeze anything else, if you
know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (25:38):
With Valentine's Day coming.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
On, whoa, maybe I should have froze some of those,
you know, I don't need no more anyway. I think
that that's I think this is all about Disney. I
think it's all about Disney.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
If you ask me, it's unnecessary. I don't give a
rip what channel the Super bowls on. I'm gonna watch it,
and I don't need a year of build up. I'm sorry.
And the look I love Fox's coverage, NBC did fine,
CBS like, I mean, we sit through Romo every three
four years calling a super Bowl, Okay, I don't like,

(26:16):
we don't need a year of build up so that
they can. And let me tell you exactly what this
is going to turn into. It's going to turn into
the same candy ass build up for games when they're
showed out here in southern California, there's gonna be a
view of Randy's Donuts and the Santa Monica pier and
then they'll show some and it's like, dude, can we stop,

(26:39):
Like you, why don't you show it what it's really
like outside Sofi Stadium one hundred and twenty dollars to park,
a nightmare to get in and out of, and some
guys slinging T shirts on the outside for ten to
fifteen dollars where the team's names are misspelled. That's that's
what it really is at Sofi Stadium.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
This super Bowl, super Bowl and brought thank god, super
Bowl on ice.

Speaker 8 (27:03):
Don't sue.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Think about it, bro.

Speaker 8 (27:08):
Seeing that who's seeing much? This is? This goes back
to Mark Cuban asking if the pigs getting too fat?
Mind you? Have you noticed we haven't heard a lot
about the ratings of this past year super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Because they were down.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
They were they were down by three million, give or take.
And and mind you, and I'll go back and just
because I think people will look at me as being
biased because last year's was Fox and it was the
highest rated ever.

Speaker 8 (27:35):
Lah, here's here's the truth. Now Nielsen has changed its rating.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
System, and I'm trying to educate other people on this.
But and and they might be saying, well, what's a
more accurate representation of what people actually see? Because they're
not just looking at like the amount of subscribers. They're
not just looking at the actual tune in to what
they're able to measure as far as how you know,
they're measuring a household, for example, the tuning in the bars.

(28:00):
Now they can get hotels, they can get big data,
as they call it, it's panel plus big data, and
so big data did it they? So maybe they're they're
marketing that this is a more accurate way of representing
how many people were actually watching the game. That might

(28:23):
be their case. I just tend to think that like
it's all fluff because it's all built on a service
that's self serving to the networks that need to They
need to promote what the ratings are in order to
draw more advertising dollars. Right if you like, let's say,
for example, that this is a trend now where the
NFL just can't get it back and ESPN ABC their

(28:46):
presentation of the Super Bowl goes down another three million,
you don't think that they'll be a little bit of
an alarm hit that maybe the NFL is peaked. Maybe
advertisers are looking at momentum going elsewhere, and I don't
know if that's to college football, which is having its
like all time highest ratings ever. I don't know if
it's just disinterested in a sport that now seems to

(29:08):
like constantly want to be in the news and constantly
it keeps putting itself out there, and maybe people get
tired of it.

Speaker 8 (29:15):
They want the next new thing, Like.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I'm not sure what you draw to that conclusion. This year,
I think it was probably more of the matchup than
anything else. Maybe it was the halftime show for some people,
because the halftime show numbers were down by five million.

Speaker 8 (29:29):
You know, who knows. But whatever the.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Case may be, I do think it's interesting that at
a time where they're trying to inflate numbers as much
as possible, we're now getting to a point where I
feel like maybe the Mark Cuban quotes started to become true,
Like maybe there is some interest that's being lost here,
at least at the NFL's from that standpoint, and that's
why they're trying to look internationally too, to sell the

(29:52):
game in other countries where they feel like there's a
greater growth opportunity.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
You want to know my theory. My theory on it is.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
That the NFL has to figure out how to evolve
into keeping up with today's technology. Because where you were
able to dial in on on certain outlets to be
able to consume the game, you were able to really
corral your fan base and put that captive audience in

(30:24):
one space. But now gambling is legal, you have and
it's not just between Fox and ESPN as it used
to be, right like, because ESPN wasn't even really a
player on it. It was like NFL games aired on what, Fox,
what CBSNBC and NBC. Well now you know that, which

(30:49):
I guess it is still them because you have these
streaming platforms, so the the audiences are getting spread out.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
For one, you can go so many different places and
ensume it.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
But I also think one thing to pay attention to
is why if I'm an advertiser advertisers and I just
learned this off of just being in our industry and
how the trends are with this, They're going to influencers.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
So people like yourselves, you.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Know, are super, super tantalizing and super attractive to do
deals with. They don't necessarily have to do deals with
the network to do deals with the talent.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
And I think that that's.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
What's taking place with pro sports, and specifically maybe with
the NFL is that these advertisers, these agencies, they're pulling
their dollars back from just putting the dollars into the
network play of advertising, and they're going direct to the athlete.

(31:52):
And because they have these outlets with social with technology
being a part of what they're doing. Put my money
behind this influencer that has five million, two million, three million,
four million people that are following them. That's why they
continue to build the data around your social media pages.

(32:13):
Show me who's looking at it, Show me the demo,
Show me how many people, how long they're looking at it,
how many of them really follow you, Show me all
of this data.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
And if you can.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Show that data, you're going to get paid for that data.
So to me, I think it's it's got to be
an adjustment. There has to be an adjustment on on
the approach if I'm the NFL, because you're trying to
figure out how to create more fandom and more buy
in to generate more dollars. But if it's going international,

(32:45):
it still has to be an approach that is of
the thought process of what all of this new technology
has created and how you need to invest more in
the players so that the players are more willing to
work with the NFL on on sharing these dollars, or
the players are going to continue to take the dollars away.

(33:05):
They're going to pull back, and it's going to be
harder and more difficult to get sales from advertisers, as
as franchises, as as you know, the NFL, the shield itself.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
That's what's wild about is social media is becoming more
and more AI driven, where it's not even like in
Florence's creators, they're going to go away, you know, fifty
percent they're estimating now of text video that's created as
all AI generation, you know, it's kind of create i mean,
bought activities up to thirty percent. So on that note,
I think a lot of it's going to be just

(33:37):
interest from humans, like into the game and other parts
of the world, not so much social media presence as
far as big data, because big data is only as
far as viewership that's just measured for streaming and that
doesn't have anything to do with social media. That just
has to do with like what the actual streaming numbers are.
Since so many people are cord cutting with cable subscribers
and everything's moving to more digital that's that's more what

(34:00):
they mean in that regard like big data is not
like looking at like social impressions and stuff like that.
It's just looking at the digital footprint since that is
an emerging market. But it's it's crazy to think that,
you know, you're going to try to blow out the sport.
I mean, here's what I'd say about ESPN. This is
one of the reasons why I wonder if it's the
NFL or if I want if it's ESPN, because you

(34:20):
tend to think it's Disney and and ESPN and maybe
right like, because I look at what they've done with
the NBA, and I think it's part of the reason
why they've ruined the NBA. It's part of the reason
why if you look at a lot of the issues
of college football, it's it's a lot of which has
been done by Disney, by ESPN. I mean, if you
really look at the shaping of conferences, how it started,

(34:40):
it was ESPN enticing Oklahoma and Texas to go to
the SEC. That's what started the whole Thing's it's ESPN
wanting to create the college Football Playoff and then kind
of like just taking it all themselves so that the
sport can actually be presented like the NFL, by multiple networks,
by multiple perspectives or viewpoints. So that's my concern is

(35:02):
like allowing ESPN to get their hooks in on in
Disney outside of their theme parks, they tend to ruin stuff.

Speaker 8 (35:09):
And I'll go a step further, what's last for what's
the last good movie they've produced?

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Hey, man, I think you, uh, you're giving the theme
park a little bit too much credit. Disneyland is awful,
just an awful place to be. I mean it is not.

Speaker 8 (35:24):
Good at all.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
Expensive as hell. And you get to see some weirdo
walking around with Chewbacca backpacks and and uh and drinking
some Neon green drink that looks like.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Well, the prices just went up because they overpaid for
the NBA rights and now they just they paid for
more NFL.

Speaker 8 (35:41):
So just be ready for prices to keep going up
at all those.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
By the way, one of my favorite shows of all time,
Inside the NBA. When's the last time you guys watched it?

Speaker 8 (35:51):
It's still yeah, still on on ESPN, but a modrashods
not doing it right.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Well, No, like Inside the talk about our or what
with Charles.

Speaker 12 (36:01):
Charles Barkley like those guys like I haven't seen them
one time or heard from them one time. And Charles
Barkley pointed out, He's like, man, we've been on three
times since the start of the season and that was October.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
It'll probably catch on once people get bored and they
start looking for it.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Well that's not good.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
It's not because and while you're looking, you're like, oh, oh,
oh wait, I want to watch this and it's something
totally different. You know, you go on you go to
look for something that you see something else and it
totally sad. Tracks you're like, hre, You're going through your song,
your song album and you're like looking like.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
I want to listen to this. Oh no, no, no,
like it play on that run.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Then next thing, you know, that one took you to
a whole other song, and then that one took you
to a old I.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
Did it till LeVar last time I was looking for something,
all of a sudden the clip from Clerks came up.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
I had to say that juke was funny. I started laughing.
I got trouble, like what are you on your phone
laughing like that? For while you're looking at it. I
was like, hold on, and I turned the volume up
on it. She just looked at me. She's like, Jonas, Yeah,

(37:08):
that's all you got to say.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
So bunny Man.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
Gets me every time. It is Two Pros and a
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Speaker 2 (37:25):
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Speaker 5 (37:38):
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Speaker 8 (38:10):
Time to find.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Out what's left Towns Incredibles. Here's the left over by
Lari Roy. What do we got?

Speaker 11 (38:17):
I know you want to know about my Valentine's Day
weekend plans, but I don't really have a lot.

Speaker 9 (38:22):
Oh no, I plan, no really though.

Speaker 11 (38:25):
My only plan was to go visit my old friend
and from middle school down in San Diego.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
That's a fine.

Speaker 11 (38:31):
He's moving across the country to go marry fine for you.

Speaker 8 (38:37):
Because I don't want to know.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yes, that's not like that's a fine.

Speaker 8 (38:42):
It's a slippery slope man.

Speaker 11 (38:44):
Well it's a very very regular weekend for Lorena.

Speaker 9 (38:47):
Let's just put it that way.

Speaker 8 (38:48):
I do want to be a slippery slope Laredo.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Which one of your doormats, would you bet is going
to send you roses or something like that?

Speaker 9 (38:55):
For at least there four of them.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
At least therefore you doormat.

Speaker 11 (39:00):
I'll have a whole florist shop at my house by Monday.
I do want to talk about all the Friday the
thirteenth stuff.

Speaker 9 (39:08):
I think it's super fun.

Speaker 11 (39:10):
Some do you guys have any memorable things that happened
to you on Friday the thirteenth.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
It happened to really know, but I remember watching like
Freddy Krueger once on that was like scarring.

Speaker 11 (39:22):
All right, all right, Well, I have a couple of
the most memorable Friday the thirteenth tragedies here for you.

Speaker 9 (39:28):
The nineteen seventy.

Speaker 11 (39:29):
Two Andy's flight crash that led to rugby players resorting
to cannibalism.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Movie Alive, where they were eating each other.

Speaker 9 (39:37):
That's a real true story.

Speaker 8 (39:39):
Joseph's Tuesday Oh Jee.

Speaker 9 (39:42):
In nineteen seventy.

Speaker 11 (39:43):
The Bangladesh cyclone killed five hundred thousand people in nineteen forty.
The bombing of Buckingham Palace happened in nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 9 (39:51):
The death of Tupac.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
Shakur Friday the thirteenth, it was yes.

Speaker 11 (39:55):
In twenty twelve, a cruise ship capsized in Italy and
killed thirty two people.

Speaker 9 (40:00):
Now these are more odd events.

Speaker 11 (40:02):
A thirteen year old on Friday the thirteenth was struck
by lightning at one thirteen pm, which is thirteen thirteen.

Speaker 9 (40:08):
Military time. That's a weird one.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
What happened to him?

Speaker 8 (40:11):
Damn?

Speaker 9 (40:12):
He survived. He did survive.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
I having a conversation with that guy now near a microwave.

Speaker 9 (40:17):
Oh goodness.

Speaker 11 (40:18):
Dinosaur eggs were discovered on Friday.

Speaker 8 (40:21):
So Mike, we've have to do with any of that.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
I feel like you just say stuff and there's really
there's really not the vine.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
Like you know, it seems like touched man's ideal.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
No, he's like any other broad cash professional on this network.

Speaker 11 (40:39):
What else were we Yeah, so dinosaur eggs were discovered
on Friday the thirteenth in nineteen twenty three, and the
iconic Hollywood sign was also put up on that day.
But you know what started this whole thing about Friday
the thirteenth being unlucky. It was actually when King Philip
the fourth had all of the Knights of the Templar arrested.

Speaker 9 (40:56):
So that is what started. Really whow, that's a fun one.

Speaker 8 (41:01):
Why did he have them all arrested?

Speaker 9 (41:03):
I knew you were going to ask some type of question.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
I didn't take a religiously It was probably religiously driven,
that would it makes sense?

Speaker 8 (41:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (41:11):
I loved it, though I'd luck Today

Speaker 8 (41:13):
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